Naveen Jain
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Now imagine what the children see. Children see when they go to school that dad is sitting on the sofa watching CNBC. They come back from school, dad is at home watching CNBC. And dad tells now, go to your room, work hard. Hard work is what it takes. And they're thinking, I want to grow up just like my dad, sitting on the sofa, watching on CNBC. Instead, this dad starts a second company.
Now imagine what the children see. Children see when they go to school that dad is sitting on the sofa watching CNBC. They come back from school, dad is at home watching CNBC. And dad tells now, go to your room, work hard. Hard work is what it takes. And they're thinking, I want to grow up just like my dad, sitting on the sofa, watching on CNBC. Instead, this dad starts a second company.
He starts a third company because dad says money doesn't matter. It's about solving the problems that matter. Dad says, now we're going to go build a company to go to the moon. And kids say, dad, you're crazy. Nobody has ever done that. It's never going to happen. Let me show you, son, how to do that, right? Dad is now turning 60. Dad wants to start a healthcare company.
He starts a third company because dad says money doesn't matter. It's about solving the problems that matter. Dad says, now we're going to go build a company to go to the moon. And kids say, dad, you're crazy. Nobody has ever done that. It's never going to happen. Let me show you, son, how to do that, right? Dad is now turning 60. Dad wants to start a healthcare company.
And literally, we had a family meeting. All the kids are now grown up and said, Dad, you had amazing success. You know the health care. You're going to get bloodied. You're never going to make it. Rise into sunset. You are high. You got plenty legacy. Why do you want to destroy your legacy? This is not something you want to do. And what is this microbiome thing you talk about?
And literally, we had a family meeting. All the kids are now grown up and said, Dad, you had amazing success. You know the health care. You're going to get bloodied. You're never going to make it. Rise into sunset. You are high. You got plenty legacy. Why do you want to destroy your legacy? This is not something you want to do. And what is this microbiome thing you talk about?
Nobody's going to give you poop. Nobody's going to know the microbiome. I don't know where you learned these microbiome thing. You should stop this stuff. And I'm thinking, oh boy, looks like to me, I haven't taught you anything yet. So let me show you one more time how this is done. And my point is, children don't do what you tell them to do. Children do what they see you do.
Nobody's going to give you poop. Nobody's going to know the microbiome. I don't know where you learned these microbiome thing. You should stop this stuff. And I'm thinking, oh boy, looks like to me, I haven't taught you anything yet. So let me show you one more time how this is done. And my point is, children don't do what you tell them to do. Children do what they see you do.
So think about that for a second. Many, many people who are parents, their dad is working at Microsoft or Amazon, nothing wrong with these companies. They're working as a mid-level manager or an executive in these companies. And they're saying, why are their kids are not becoming entrepreneurs? I want my kid to be an entrepreneur.
So think about that for a second. Many, many people who are parents, their dad is working at Microsoft or Amazon, nothing wrong with these companies. They're working as a mid-level manager or an executive in these companies. And they're saying, why are their kids are not becoming entrepreneurs? I want my kid to be an entrepreneur.
And there was a guy who worked for me and said, you know, Naveen, why is it that your kids are all becoming entrepreneur? My kids refuse to be an entrepreneur. And I said, ask yourself, when you were working on these large companies, you went home, you bitched about your boss, and then you went back to work the next day. What is it? Kids learn. Kids learn.
And there was a guy who worked for me and said, you know, Naveen, why is it that your kids are all becoming entrepreneur? My kids refuse to be an entrepreneur. And I said, ask yourself, when you were working on these large companies, you went home, you bitched about your boss, and then you went back to work the next day. What is it? Kids learn. Kids learn.
I'm going to get a job where I'm going to hate my boss. I'm going to come home, bitch about my boss and go back to work because that's how my dad did it. So the point is, if you want your kids to be an entrepreneur, you have to show them what to do and to do it yourself. They learn from you doing it, not from you telling them to do it. So when the kids were young, I wouldn't read them the story.
I'm going to get a job where I'm going to hate my boss. I'm going to come home, bitch about my boss and go back to work because that's how my dad did it. So the point is, if you want your kids to be an entrepreneur, you have to show them what to do and to do it yourself. They learn from you doing it, not from you telling them to do it. So when the kids were young, I wouldn't read them the story.
The daily ritual was, I would say, Ankur, tell me a story about a monkey and an ocean and a palm tree. Your job is to connect the things that are seemingly not connected. And he will now tell me a story. Now I say, dad, now you tell me a story about this, this, and this.
The daily ritual was, I would say, Ankur, tell me a story about a monkey and an ocean and a palm tree. Your job is to connect the things that are seemingly not connected. And he will now tell me a story. Now I say, dad, now you tell me a story about this, this, and this.
And the idea we were creating was showing them that everything that looks disconnected can actually be connected together if you think in a different abstract way. When my youngest was applying for Stanford, he said, dad, I have nothing common, everything I've done. I've done the neuroscience here, I've done the genetics here, I've done this.
And the idea we were creating was showing them that everything that looks disconnected can actually be connected together if you think in a different abstract way. When my youngest was applying for Stanford, he said, dad, I have nothing common, everything I've done. I've done the neuroscience here, I've done the genetics here, I've done this.
How am I going to explain to college application that these things somehow are connected? And I said, go back to what we did when we were telling a story. I said, you talk about how you were intellectually curious and your curiosity drove you to do these things. And the common thread is the curiosity, not what you did.
How am I going to explain to college application that these things somehow are connected? And I said, go back to what we did when we were telling a story. I said, you talk about how you were intellectually curious and your curiosity drove you to do these things. And the common thread is the curiosity, not what you did.