Nate Tice
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Seahawks with the points was the worst bet. Well, I would say it's more of a bad beat than a bad bet.
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I mean, are we counting all the ones that he probably made preseason that included one of these two teams to win it? Because if that's the case, it's way over. I mean, we're in the mid-double digits. No, Mikey, I'm including those.
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He grabbed the early line. He grabbed the hypothetical line. He grabbed the money line.
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I like to think so. Otherwise, what are we doing here?
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Go ahead, Mike. Speaking of longest rush, I feel like it doesn't matter what that number is for Saquon Barkley because he's going to get it on the first carry. Saquon Barkley longest rush. Last few times I've seen it in the high 20s. Are you still thinking that they're going to be able to do that this time around against the Chiefs?
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Billy did. I think Bear tried just as much.
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I also love the idea of him taking all that money, putting it in blackjack, and he's getting aces, and then he's got to split them. And then he gets aces again, and he splits it again, and he winds up losing everything.
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Five times the stake out there.
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Fair, fair. My pen and pad is ready. What Kentucky Derby future are we talking about?
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Bear, I can't believe we haven't asked you yet. Who are you taking in the game, though? I don't think he knows yet. I think he has an idea of what he wants, but he's waiting for the right number. So you're aware this will not air until Tuesday, just so you know, Bear, okay?
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No. They'd have to restructure it a little bit. But if he wants to be there, they'll make it work. Bear, he's the best option they have.
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I had to, man. You do that when you're my age, which is 50. My better days are behind me. I used to be a contender, especially at the bar. No, but that's kind of what I had to do. I looked at my schedule and I was like, huh. I don't know if I could do this with a headache.
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I know. I love this city. My uncle played for the Saints for 10 years.
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So I used to go to the Manning Academy here in Louisiana. So I used to come every year in New Orleans in January. And so, like, It's kind of fun actually doing it for work now. Yes. Every time I'm here, I'm like, oh, yeah, the city rocks. Right. People here are really nice and cool and fun. So I'm loving it so far.
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It's a walking city, yeah.
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That's kind of, you know, I don't know if you've been to the Combine in Indy. No. That's why I never think they'll move it. Right. Because everything is like three blocks from each other. Yes. Bars included, restaurants, but just like where the facilities are. Yes. And that's just such an underrated. No one wants to get in the car for five to ten minutes and do everything.
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So I think that's what's great about this right now.
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That and Prime 47. Oh, really? Which is a restaurant.
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No, it's been around. It's just that time doesn't exist in Prime 47. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. It's the same lighting. Next thing you know. Yeah, same lighting no matter what. And the thing that happens during the combine is just a lot of guys, a lot of coaches and personnel guys, they're interviewing until 11 p.m.
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So, like, really the networking, quote, unquote, the convention part of the Combine, it's, like, starts at midnight. It's, like, not even just drinking-wise. It's just, like, people just finally are stepping out and actually can, like, hang out and stuff. So it's kind of a surreal thing where it's, like, all right, 11 o'clock, guess I'll start out.
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You know, I feel like I'm in New York or Miami, actually. Yeah.
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Yeah. I hang out longer in Indy than I do in New Orleans.
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Yeah, I know. I know. And I live in Vegas, too, and I'm acting like I'm just like, yeah, don't even handle this.
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I did meet you there, and I was like, okay, you did. I was surprised. No, no, I remember, Nate. Yes, yes. I normally don't, to be honest with you. No, that's the thing. I felt bad for people there because you could tell everyone's excited at Vegas. And then after day four, and you guys had some crazy weather too. It was freezing. And day four, I got to go home every night.
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And I just saw everybody worn out. It's just being in those casinos. It's like the little city states and you can't get out.
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Yeah, I know. That's what's so great. My hotel's two blocks away.
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So we've got Charles McDonald, who I know has been on some Levitard shows. Yeah, friend of the show. Yeah, friend of the show. So him and I and Matt Harmon, who does reception perception. His background's a lot more in fantasy, but really we talk about X's and O's, scheme stuff. Really a lot of deep dive stuff. Charles helps me kind of come out of my little lair sometimes.
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Actually, I got to be a normal person about some of it. But really just like there's a lot of like what happened, when happened. We're really trying to go why, how. I think a lot of people like when they can just point out one thing to their buddy at the bar. They go like, hey, hey, this linebacker's pretty good. Or hey, they like run this coverage or something of that sort.
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My background, I kind of done everything in football, played, coached, scouted. I was a ball boy. I think with just all that has kind of led me to kind of go like, oh, maybe this. I was around a lot smarter people through osmosis. I go, maybe look out for this. Maybe look for this guard that's weak against this blitz. And I think that's kind of like a nice angle for us.
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It's a lot of fun to kind of dive into.
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And that's what people think the All-22, you know, the big X and O stuff where you can see all the players on there. People think that's like, oh, you guys don't know what you're looking at and stuff. But you have to rewind it a million times because... Like, you don't always see what the guard is doing from the sideline angle. You don't see downfield what the safety is doing.
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And that play was brilliant. I mean, we had 500 backlash breakdowns on that play and everything. But that's what's really cool, especially with blitz stuff, is that there's layers to it. And there's rule breakers. And that's why I love Spagnuolo. I was a former offensive guy. But watch him. He breaks rules. And that's what – it's a total F me, F you kind of thing.
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And he's able to do it. And you saw like that perfect fourth down play. It was like, yeah, that's what Spaggs does to you.
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He does the 5-0-1 thing. Yes. That you're not – you are prepared for it, but it would be like a leap of faith to get there for an offense. And that's what's really cool when you start dissecting it.
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That's right. And his reputation in my mind now, speaking to this, is he went from head coach retread, okay, interesting defense coordinator, to now I consider him one of the greatest defense coordinators of all time.
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And I truly mean this. I think that some of the game plans, just like Belichick, should go to Canton. Because he's one of the best game plan coordinators. Once the playoffs start, it's so week to week. As far as like, all right, that game plan, throw it out because we're starting a whole new one.
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And now we've got all 18 weeks to look at the previous film as opposed to maybe four in the middle of the season. Him and Andy Reid on the opposite side are the best. And now they have a bye week. So that's how I look at it too. It's like, all right, you probably paid pretty well too. And everybody now has the respect level has gone through the roof.
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It's not just week to week. It's once we hit playoff time, they have those hyper-specific game plans. So maybe that's the best way to put it. They're the ones that are able to create these one-off game plans, the one-off plays that's like, oh, that was cool. I even come back to two years ago when these two teams played in the Super Bowl.
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Remember the kind of back-and-forth touchdowns, the motions and stuff? Because Andy Reid was able to watch every Eagles game where the coaches were from the whole regular season. And they took those plays, which are popular, but they took it from the Jaguars doing it against the Eagles in like week four. And that's the difference is they put in the work and go, oh, that's interesting.
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We're going to put it in now. And that's what the extra bye week does. It gives you the time to do it. Interesting. Yeah, that week to week. I keep saying week to week. I should say that specific playoff game plans, they are the best at it.
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He does, right? I mean, they keep winning and everything.
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I thought one thing. underrated aspect of Sirianni was the year before they won that first Super Bowl run, so that would have been 21, he benched himself as a play caller. And usually you'd be like, ha, ha, ha. But I thought the humility to go, no, Steichen, you got the plays. I'm going to bench him.
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Because they were struggling the first four or five weeks, I want to say it was, and then they had a bye. And they launched from there, and then they got A.J. Brown and continued the next year. Steichen's now a head coach.
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Usually what you see is the opposite. Oh, I'm taking it away from him. He's fine. He's the first one in front of me in the fire going, yeah. He's the human meat shield for me. And I kind of look back then. I respect him for that because not a lot of head coaches would do that, especially ones that you know, finally get their first head coaching job. I'm like, I'm going to be a play caller.
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Look at me. I'm the next McVay Shanahan.
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So that's one thing where I was like, hey, I mean, there is something to that. And there's something to being like, I hate the term, but the CEO type that kind of gets everyone organized. And if they're, I mean, they keep winning games.
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I mean, they should be giving him a bunch of vowels in it.
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Another one got ran out. Like, Doug, Andy Reid got ran out. I know. I know. Sirianni can still win something. Hey, going to two and winning one is a lot better than a lot of other coaches. I know, even if you end up as the Larry Coker of NFL coaches, it's not the worst.
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And that's how I feel about him a little bit, too. It's like, hey, yeah, he's taking over a Ferrari, but he's keeping it on the road. And I know every time they lose, it's the funniest little, like, You know, everybody starts dropping rumors and gossip and everything. But I haven't gotten a lot of that lately because I think things have been pretty good in Philly.
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I think it's going to be a lot of long drives, too. Both of these defenses are top five in allowing explosive plays, and the fact that they don't allow them, I should say. And I think that you can be methodical against both of them. I think the Rams game was interesting against this Eagles defense, where they were really doing a lot of at-you runs around a concept called duo.
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But what it is is just vertical, just power, basically, without anyone pulling. And you can do that. If you're willing to live with four, five, six-yard gains, yeah. And the Chiefs are able to do that. That's what they want to do. They're not very explosive anyways, but they're hyper-efficient. So I think that's a lot of long drives. There's a line I've been kind of giving.
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I think this is going to be the shortest Super Bowl. I agree. Even with the halftime show.
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That's it. And both teams want to do that. The Chiefs want to go, well, we don't want them hitting big play after big play on us. So I am really curious. My eyes are going to Spaggs versus Jalen Hurts and the Eagles off the line. It really is because... Spags is one of the best, like, he's one of the biggest blitzers, but he runs a lot of zone blitzes.
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And that's the difference than man coverage blitzes. And Jalen Hurts has been better against the blitz, but if you remember last year in the playoffs, Todd Bowles and the Bucs, they kind of exposed him a little bit. And he's not good against zone blitzes, though, because it's just a little more confusing. It's a little more exotic.
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So that's one thing where it's like, all right, if they get an explosive play off of it, that's going to decide the game. But I think Spags are going to try and bait them into that one turnover that can totally swing the game.
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I'm fine with that. This is more of my language, so we're good.
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Yeah, so I'll tell you one little inside baseball play. It's a coverage called Palms, and it's a quarters coverage, so two high shell. And on it, it's basically a defense trying to run cover two and cover four at the same time. And what you're trying to do is bait the quarterback into throwing to the slot, like a quick out route, and thinking that you can just have nice open space over there.
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Jalen Hurts loves throwing those.
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The Chiefs are one of the best defenses at running this. So they'll blitz. Quarterback will think he's hot. And there's the corner who looks like he's running with the outside receiver. He'll turn around and be there to pick off and blow up the slot or the tight end. I feel like that kind of play is going to be the one that decides the game. It's what the Chiefs do.
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It also baits Hurts into throwing what he wants to throw. But this is where I love this stuff is that, okay, I know what you know what I know what you know. All right, does Kellen Moore go like, all right, now throw the vertical route right behind it? Oh, I like that.
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And that's what I, if he does, if I see that little hole shot, you know, that little 15 to 20 yarder towards the sideline, I'll be like, oh, the Eagles got some stuff. If I see that pick or that batted ball or that blow up on a quick out route, that's where I'm like, okay, the Chiefs got some stuff.
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There's going to be those little kind of indicators like who's kind of maybe has the mental edge right away.
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No, I'm not. I'm doing the same thing, by the way.
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That's right. And there's nothing where I look at with this Chiefs team where I'm like, oh, that's a glaring weakness. Everything's solid. They just don't create explosives. But the thing is, Mahomes can be methodical and can nickel and dime you. And you got Andy Reid on a bye week, and you got Steve Spagnuolo on a bye week. I'd never go against it. But I do. Eagles can run the ball, stop the run.
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Create explosive plays, stop explosive plays. That's a really good formula, too. No doubt. How's the Land Cruiser set, by the way?
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Oh, my God. I know. I know. But that's what I said. They literally have X's and O's on it. I know. That is so good. No, it's great. I know. They're doing a great job there.
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Ball boy was pretty great. I was in high school, middle school. I was with those old Vikings teams with Moss and Culpepper and stuff. Oh, wow. Yeah, I saw some real s**t. Oh, my God. Yeah, some of the greatest s**t. Yeah, so Moss lateral stuff.
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Yeah, so, yeah. Never shutting up. Yeah, Terry O'Smith. I said that respectfully to Chris Carter. He was just wired that way. Well, that's also a warp in my line of thinking is that I watched Randy Moss, Dante Culpepper, Chris Carter play. John Randall, Kevin Williams, all these guys. And I'm like, oh, yeah, every receiver is like Randy Moss. Yeah, right.
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And then I've never seen someone near that ever in my life. Not even close. Not even close. It's like, oh, there's a lot more Nate Burlesons than Randy Mosses. I love Nate, too.
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He doesn't deserve any of this. No, but being a ball boy, even though I was making like $20 a week, it was invaluable. I remember the Vic play where two guys ran into each other in the rankings. I was there for that one. I saw a lot of kind of cool moments. I saw Brett Favre play five feet for me, Peyton Manning. Amazing. That probably is the best because maybe I was also 16.
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And it comes with zero expectations too. Just get the ball there. Just throw it on your hand. Make sure it spirals. You can't throw overhand to refs.
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So there's a preferred throwing style. Time out.
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Okay. They get mad at you if you throw it overhand because some of them can't catch. Okay. So you have to throw an underhand throw, and they prefer with a little lob.
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So they can adjust to it and everything like that.
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So, no, but, like, and I was a quarterback, so, like, there's times I was like, fuck it. Let it rip. Let it rip. And one time a ref actually loved that because it was like a no-huddle two-minute situation. He's like, thanks for getting the ball out there. And I was like, oh, God, I thought I was going to be fired. But, no, it's true. I one time threw it overhand, and a ref lectured me. Really?
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He's like, do not. throw it overhand. He's like, you do not know what my hands are like.
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I know. I wish. Who's the ref? I know. Well, a lot of those guys are retired now, too. So, yeah, I know. Has there been a ref? It might have been Hockley. It might have been Hockley. Oh, really?
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Oh, really? This is fascinating. Nothing personal he did to me, but one thing if I were to ask. All I want is ball boy stories from you. Go ahead. bulky for a reason. He knows he's on TV. One thing with Hockley I always notice. Okay, so there's the orange guy that says TV timeout. Takes the pause. Offense will be in a huddle sometimes and everything.
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A lot of refs just go into the quarterback like, hey, five seconds. And then back out of there. Hockley goes... He had five seconds and just hangs because he knows the camera. He's going to be, when I come back from career show, where they always show the offense breaking the huddle. Yes. There's Hockley always going, and then he goes. Showing off the guns.
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Every quarterback in the league knows that. So everyone was like, yeah. So when I've been on the league, people were kind of busting balls about it. So I got to make sure to get that extra couple seconds in there.
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A couple seconds of pose, right? Show off the tries.
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Who was the defensive coordinator for the Giants?
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Spags is an absolute rebuttal. I would say Mahomes is the better rebuttal.
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Right. You just said the whole point is to keep Mahomes off the field. It is. And I think it's hard to keep Mahomes off the field because... Spags.
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Right. How does that make any sense? What do you mean, how does it make sense?
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Nobody. But here's my question. Does Jason leave Travis sad in the locker room to go party with the Eagles if the Eagles win? Because I say yes.