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Nabiha Syed

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Radiolab
What Up Holmes?

And I'm the president of The Markup, a nonprofit news organization that investigates big tech.

Radiolab
What Up Holmes?

And one of the first things she told me was that one of the problems with the marketplace of ideas is that there's... No reckoning for the fact that some people have bigger platforms than others, meaning their ideas get heard first.

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What Up Holmes?

Their ideas also get heard more often.

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What Up Holmes?

Their ideas are also, you know, surrounded by joiners who are like, that idea is popular.

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What Up Holmes?

I'm going to join it.

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What Up Holmes?

You know, not that all things in the American Muslim experience boil down to a single day in 2001, but to the extent that, like, the aftermath of 9-11 was formative, it was because I felt like there was all of a sudden a narrative about who I was that was playing out in the media.

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What Up Holmes?

That bore no relationship to my...

Radiolab
What Up Holmes?

Orange County, Pakistani, like Kardashian-esque life, right?

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What Up Holmes?

Like I just didn't, I was like, who are these people?

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What Up Holmes?

But here's the thing to remember, like the marketplace of ideas was one theory, right?

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What Up Holmes?

It's the idea that we glommed onto.

Radiolab
What Up Holmes?

And it's the idea that really took off because a variety of social platforms were like, yep, that's the one.

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What Up Holmes?

But it's not the only one.

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What Up Holmes?

You should know, is the well in your neighborhood poisoning you?

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What Up Holmes?

That's not a subjective set of opinions.

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What Up Holmes?

Like, is water poisonous?

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What Up Holmes?

This view conceives of like the rights of a listener, not just the rights of a speaker.

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What Up Holmes?

The way that we do things now, we focus a lot on who gets to talk.

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What Up Holmes?

And everyone's talking somehow.

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What Up Holmes?

We don't ever talk about the listener.

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What Up Holmes?

Like if you're listening to all these people talk, do you have a right to accurate information?

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What Up Holmes?

And you see some glimmers of that throughout American history.

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What Up Holmes?

You know, you have to present both sides of an issue.

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What Up Holmes?

You have to provide facts on these different sides of issues.

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What Up Holmes?

We should start from the vantage point of the facts and information you need to participate in democratic deliberation, which could be local, which could be national.

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What Up Holmes?

But we're going to focus on information health, not just the right of someone to speak.

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What Up Holmes?

The marketplace of ideas has been such a beautiful idea and it served us for about a century.

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What Up Holmes?

And maybe it's time to think about what a different theory could look like.

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What Up Holmes?

No, I don't have it yet.

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What Up Holmes?

But I'm working on it.