Mike Benz
Appearances
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
Epstein Files Drop Today-But How Much Will They Reveal? (Ep.149)
in order to win the war against Russia right now. NATO believes we need to build the single largest military base in all of NATO on the Black Sea coast of Romania that points straight out in a line at Crimea and move this base that's under construction is 100% bigger. als die größte NATO-Base in Europa. Sie sehen, es gibt eine Wahl in Rumänien.
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
Epstein Files Drop Today-But How Much Will They Reveal? (Ep.149)
Sie haben es vielleicht gehört, die kanzlerlose Wahl in Rumänien mit Georgescu, diesem rechten Populisten, der in der Wahl Neutralität gefeiert hat. Er will nicht Amerika antagonisieren, aber er will nicht die Russen töten. Er will NATO auslösen und er will nicht, dass diese Militärbasis gemacht wird.
Bongino Report Early Edition with Evita
Epstein Files Drop Today-But How Much Will They Reveal? (Ep.149)
Das ist eine zivilisierte Entscheidung der gewählten Regierung Rumäniens, die von den Herzen und Geistern der Votierenden der rumänischen Bevölkerung entschieden wurde.
Morning Wire
Suspected Killer’s Infamy & GEC’s Likely Demise | 12.12.24
They were afraid that social media, rising all these right-wing populist parties to power, would effectively collapse the entire rules-based international order unless there was international censorship. Because Brexit would give rise to Frexit if Marine Le Pen won, and she was massively overpowered on social media versus Macron.
Morning Wire
Suspected Killer’s Infamy & GEC’s Likely Demise | 12.12.24
If, you know, as I mentioned, Italy, Germany, there was going to be not just Brexit, there was going to be Frexit, Spexit, Italegxit, Grexit, Grexit.
Morning Wire
Suspected Killer’s Infamy & GEC’s Likely Demise | 12.12.24
So the entire EU would come undone, which would mean all of NATO would come undone, which would mean there's no enforcement arm for the IMF or the World Bank or international creditors, which would mean it would be like the ending scene of Fight Club, where the credit card company buildings all collapse just because you're allowed to post on the Internet.
Morning Wire
Suspected Killer’s Infamy & GEC’s Likely Demise | 12.12.24
And they talked about that quite openly in 2017 as they were creating this whole censorship infrastructure.
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
ist, dass Populismus ein Angriff auf Demokratie ist. Sie sagen das offensichtlich in USAID-Meetungen. Sie sagen das offensichtlich in USAID-Dokumenten. Ich habe das ein Jahr und ein halbes lang veröffentlicht.
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
Der USAID-Desinformation-Primer hat den ersten Monat des Bidens-Terms im Offizier veröffentlicht, dass der Grund für ihre Desinformation-Programme war, Populismus-Subjektmatter-Expertise auf der Internetseite zu eliminieren, weil Populismus-News-Seiten Undermine USAID-Programming by undermining public faith and confidence in democratic institutions.
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
Because, don't you know, USAID spends billions of dollars to control the media every year. All the major media outlets in Ukraine are funded by USAID, like the Kiev Independent. All the major news outlets in Western Hemisphere or in many parts of Africa and Central Asia are It does what the CIA used to do. Everyone remembers Operation Mockingbird. Well, guess what?
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
That's just called USAID Media Sustainability and Media Assistance. Okay? That's all that is. And when populist waves swept the world in the US in 2016 with Trump and with what happened all over Europe with Marine Le Pen and Matteo Salvini and Nigel Farage, USAID declared censorship holy war against every single populist group, including Bolsonaro.
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
Steve, I'm telling you right now, if USAID did not exist, Bolsonaro would still be the President of Brazil and Brazil would still have a free and open Internet. It was USAID that spent tens of millions of dollars of American taxpayer money. entirely on USAID, because USAID declared Bolsonaro a populist, Trump of the tropics, and then set up this operation to control the information ecosystem.
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
One of the USAID grantees even said on a public call that the purpose was to eliminate the international exchange of ideas between the Trump movement and the Bolsonaro movement. Das ist das, was die USA tun. Sie töten den domänischen Populismus, weil es in die Richtung ihrer Außenpolitik geht.
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
You are a one of one?
PBD Podcast
Jair Bolsonaro’s Prediction Comes True! Ex-President Ordered To Stand Trial In Brazilian Coup Plot
Es kamen Leute, die mit Alessandro gearbeitet haben.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
But whenever some something's deemed a threat to democracy, there's always something else behind it. Right. In Trump's case, it was very obvious that Trump's policy about Eurasia. Was the primary reason that they ran all of the coup like actions against him from the multiple impeachment, multiple impeachments to the 91 felonies.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
to the special prosecutor's probe, the Bob Mueller two-and-a-half-year FBI special prosecutors, to the whirlwind of state-funded media and intelligence six ways from Sunday's things against him. There were other things that Trump did that flew in the face of the interests of international corporations and banks and foundations and NGOs. That one was the primary one in my view.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
In the Bolsonaro story, since my primary focus is on Internet censorship, it's very easy for me to tell that story, and I can walk you through that whole thing. But in terms of the why they did it, again, technically, all they need to say is threat to democracy, but there are always interests underneath that, and there are many threads. There is a sort of murder mystery, whodunit.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
There are many... Financial interests in Brazil. There are many U.S. multinational corporations of interest there. There are international interests around China and the relationship between China and the Biden administration. There's the connection with the unions and many of the union groups.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And there's several others, and this is actually why I'm happy to sit in and sort of play second chair to Nicholas because I have my own questions around the specifics of who financially benefit from any of these things. Because, for example – Lula connected his whole government to China, and he was very open about that.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
This is the sort of thing that the State Department and the CIA and USAID typically run operations to stop, and yet you had this very strange situation where we ran these operations to install it, this Chinese influence in Brazil.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And when you look at the Biden family relationship with Chinese stakeholders, you look at the Hunter Biden, you know, $10 million basically windfall from Chinese clients for his consulting company and partnerships with Chinese energy companies. You see this recurring pattern with the Biden administration.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I don't have, though, since everything I do is open source, I don't have any confessions from people in the U.S.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I don't know that. There are things that keep coming up in my research about it that I find highly disturbing and I would not be able to get without the subpoena power of Congress.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And it is my opinion that at the end of this process and once the report that I'm working on is published and all this can be just – the whole timeline, chronology, network map, funding flows, cast of characters, all that –
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
It's my belief that that it would be beneficial for the American people to understand, to have an autopsy of the rogue activity of their own government for any of the oversight bodies that we currently have set up, whether that is the weaponization subcommittee of Jim Jordan, whether that's the House Foreign Affairs or Senate Foreign Affairs committees, whether that is declassifying federal secrets, frankly, from covert actions involved in this.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
power-equipped courts, congressional committees that could probe those questions, most immediately the what comes up most frequently publicly in this and what they talk about is this international exchange of ideas between Trumpism and Bolsonaroism. And that's a very simple one to understand, right?
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Which is just the raw political calculus of you get rid of Bolsonaro, you get rid of Trump, you get rid of the, you know, and this is a direct quote, the international exchange of ideas. You can actually go to my foundation's website, it's foundationforfreedomonline.com. If you put Brazil into the search at the top, you'll see, oh yeah, one word, yep.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Yep, and you just put Brazil on the top, and you'll see a report that I published a little over two years ago. Yeah, U.S. tax dollars funding text message censorship in Brazil. Published this in July 2022, so just in time for the CIA director to descend on Brazil. And you'll see we U.S. taxpayers paid to – to get the censorship state installed in Brazil. U.S. taxpayers? Yes, yes.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Yes, if the U.S. is serious about applying diplomatic... diplomatic resources on the issue. There are many ways that that can be done. I'm not sure this is the most appropriate forum for discussing them. And there are actually two open threads that I did want to get to from what Nicholas just said. But the short answer is there are many things that the U S can do.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
If the U S ambassador is serious, if the president is serious, um, if the, if Marco Rubio is serious, um, and, uh, Yes, much can be done. I'll leave it there. I think what you need is policy alignment and then the appropriate organs to mobilize.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Well, you're going to need to synchronize all the different facets of U.S. foreign policy. That can be done.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
It just doesn't feel appropriate. I'm just going to say it. I don't think that this is the forum to – but I'm happy to listen to you guys talk about it. It's just – yeah. Yeah.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Is it the McDonald's job from Trump?
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Well, what I was getting into there was about – and one of the reasons I want to circle back to some of the things that we were just talking about and play some of these things for the world to see here is that we – like I mentioned, congressional committees on this who have subpoena power, who can do transcribed interviews of all the officials involved.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
who can use the power of the purse to slash budgets, who can do public hearings and put this all out, and prosecutors in the U.S. who can take appropriate action to the extent that there's criminal wrongdoing. There is right now, agency by agency, the people at the top of the perch have been the people who have been punished by the system. But, you know, RFK is at the head of HHS.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Cash and now, you know, Dan Bongino at the top of FBI. Time and time again, we've seen this, you know, Dr. Jay Bhattacharya at the top of NIH. I think that there is an American interest in pursuing this and the weaponization of the foreign policy establishment and its covert and overt capabilities and its NGO capabilities.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
to go after bolsonaro as a way of going after donald trump and so i mentioned this phrase stopping the inner in uh the international exchange of ideas between trumpism and bolsonaroism so on that on that piece that i pulled up before the uh the foundation for freedom online brazil report you actually see that's a direct quote i think actually just if you scroll down or just run a control f for uh exchange you'll see this if we'll just yeah there you go
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
So this is funded by the U.S. here. If you scroll down, this is a U.S. taxpayer. So what this is, if you click this video, this is a presentation to IFES, which is a U.S. AID partner and implementer. This is an international idea. This is attached to the National Endowment for Democracy and USAID. And it's basically election management in foreign countries. And you'll see here our U.S.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
taxpayers paying international – they get all their money from Congress through a State Department contribution. So this was back in 2021, 2022. And if you just play this, you'll see what the thought process was ahead of Brazil's election for how our own NGOs were weaponized to go after Trump by going after Bolsonaro. Do you have an ad there?
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Okay. Yeah, if we go through both of them.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
This is an international idea. Sure, I would address.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
So here he is presenting – this is hosted by us, U.S. taxpayers. And this is – I published this years ago. I published this two and a half years ago at this point. Similar keywords on the Brazilian and U.S. populist right on Parler. And you'll see it's Trump, election fraud irregularities, the very things that – People in Brazil were prosecuted or banned from being able to talk about.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
They grafted off of the model of something that was done here in the U.S. ahead of the 2020 election when DHS partnered with groups like EIP, the Atlantic Council, Grafica, two of our universities. to censor Americans' ability to talk about election voting machines. And then we systematically trained the Brazilian judges to do the same to stop Bolsonaro.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And I can walk you through that whole process. But this is just from things of our profession. If you let it play, you'll see how basically this is art, taxpayer-funded NGOs and CIA cutouts working with here a Brazilian professor, effectively, on how to co-strategize to stop the international exchange of ideas between Trump and Bolsonaro.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Yeah. We exported our censorship models when they started to work against Trump. We exported them to Brazil. We exported them to Europe. We're exporting them to Australia as part of a State Department USAID push to control the information space in every country on Earth. So the reason, for example, this that I published was about the U.S.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
taxpayers funding the censorship of encrypted chat apps like WhatsApp and Telegram. This was because we had already moved into Brazil to censor social media. This is why Brazilians were one of the first people to come to Gab and some of the other alternative, and Parler and these other platforms. But on this point, you mentioned Bahoso. Am I saying that correctly? So if you go to slide 23...
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Yes. Yes. So this is NDI. NDI is the DNC branch. It's the CIA wing of the DNC. NDI is the Democrat Party wing of the National Endowment for Democracy. The National Endowment for Democracy is the premier CIA cutout of our tens of thousands around the world. It's a big umbrella one. It was created in 1983. It was conceived in the office of the CIA Director William Casey.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
The CIA had gotten in a lot of trouble just a few years earlier when the heart attack gun was held up in front of Congress. The Democrats hated the CIA. Ronald Reagan wanted it back. They couldn't get that approved. They couldn't get the powers back because Democrats controlled the lower house of Congress.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And so they came up with an idea to create the National Endowment for Democracy to have an outside NGO funded by the State Department where all the grants are reviewed by the CIA. Go out and be the operations arm, basically a plausible deniability layer for the CIA the same way the CIA provides that plausible deniability layer for the State Department. They have four core fours.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
IRI, which is the Republican branch of the CIA, of the NED. It's the International Republican Institute. It was founded by John McCain, who ran for president in 2008, the Republican nominee. On its board are people like Mitt Romney, who ran for president in 2012. Basically, until Trump, you had to be IRI if you wanted to run for president in the Republican Party.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
On the Democrat side, it's called the other political core for it is called NDI, the National Democratic Institute, who was... Hunter Biden, for example, is on the Chairman's Advisory Board of the NDI, if you've ever heard me talking about the wonderful CIA world of Hunter Biden. But NDI, again, is fully funded by the U.S. government. They get hundreds of millions of dollars every year.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
They are notorious for regime change and organizing street riots, penetrating the unions in countries, penetrating their for-profit companies, penetrating academia, mobilizing student youths to take to the streets. And here you have the NDI senior elections advisor encouraging Brazil's top judge, Bahoso, to – if you just play this clip here in this rumble, you'll see. How long is it?
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
You can just play the first – just play like the first 30 seconds to get the idea of it. And you can – if you need to mute that for the answer a second. I just want to show you that all this is – meticulously, forensically detailed.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Can you fast forward to when he speaks? Well, you'll see what you pause for a second. What she goes – she presses him to do more to censor non-inclusive speech. This is our taxpayer-funded CIA cutout pushing the top judge in Brazil to do more to censor. And in fact, you can play that out or if you – I've got a million of these clips. We trained all their judges. I mean I can show you. It's –
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
We trained all of Brazil's judges. Yes, yes. In fact, in the program, the banner program that coordinated this, they said one of the specific reasons they did this is so that these judicial institutions, what they call EMBs, election management bodies, this has been a big push.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
since Trump one to to control the judiciary's because USAID its charters is allowed to do so-called judicial reform to influence the laws in the in the judicial decisions in foreign countries and so you know you can if you want to sit through this whole thing but you can hear her say it so this is all make this up this is in the report with millions of other things but I'll put this on my ex account for for folks you know right after this but if you want to go the next slide
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
You'll see. If you want to just hear straight from the horse's mouth without having to skip around. So this is a presentation of the top judge in Brazil to the Wilson Center, which is the close partner and implementer of the U.S. State Department. It gets, I think, over 30 percent of its annual funds directly from U.S. taxpayers. It is one of our flank of State Department interlocutors.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Now, if you want to play that, I can give you a background. They did a whole war game for teaching them how to censor a Bolsonaro post, the Wilson Center, the State Department-funded Wilson Center with them.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
In fact, if you skip to the end of it, just do the last 45 seconds and you'll get the picture of it. We brought them in for this. Yeah, just, yeah, like, or actually, no, no, no. Start a little bit for that. Yeah, yeah, right there. Yeah, that's fine. You'll see.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Okay, so if you pause there. Now, the Wilson Center is a U.S. State Department organ. We pay for this. The Wilson Center then got together with Brazilian judges and officials and did a whole disinformation war game to train them on the best practices of what we'd used to censor Trump during the 2020 election. You know, who else was at the Wilson Center?
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Nina Jankovic, the head of the Disinformation Governance Board. We are literally taking best practices from the U.S. that were used to stop Trump from winning in 2020 and training every organ. We went around to the prosecutors, the judges, the universities. There's a whole story here with the unions. Top to bottom, we spent tens of millions of dollars.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
like is there the ned still yes they're in a full-blown panic over it uh and now there are there's a question of if they can offset that through funding from the eu and other international bodies like the un they want to try to create sort of like replacement funding through the the private donor networks through The Soros networks and the Gates networks are going to have to pay.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
The Craig Newmark networks, the Piero Midiar networks, the Reid Hoffman networks may have to spend their own billions to offset that. But they're also working with these in power. The censors in exile here in the U.S. are trying to get this funding to continue this work by partnering with foreign governments to get it now that USAID is down. But that is going to cost them a lot.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Whatever the best role for me is. My North Star here is about freedom of speech. And it's not about trying to get a particular person elected. It's not about... what happens in foreign countries for the sake of what happens there. Like I said, I think Bolsonaro is a hero. I think he's a martyr figure. I think it's a human rights violation what happened to him.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
My priority is as an American to tell this story about Brazil because this is a story of the American government. And this is something that the Trump administration, if it wants to get done its domestic agenda, is going to run into this international crisis.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
they're going to run into it in the EU, they're going to run into it in Canada, in Australia, they're going to run into it in Ukraine, they're going to run into it in Central Asia, they're going to run into it in Sub-Saharan Africa. But the Brazil case study is a really clean one because the size of the operation and how sloppy they were about covering the tracks.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
You want to go to slide one, by the way? I don't mean to interrupt.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Does that look familiar?
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
That's the USAID SEPs program.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
It's hard for me to give advice to the Brazilian people as an American citizen. It feels a little bit outside my place. I think, in general, it's amazing to see the success that you've had. I, too, like Patrick, have never seen an Instagram video with over 300 million views that's...
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Highly impressive, but I think that is ultimately the path to bringing power to the people, is to make your voice heard as loud as humanly possible and to keep turning your voice up and up and up and up and to find partners at every conceivable level, in the U.S., in Europe, to wherever. And I don't mean that in an interference way.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I mean that simply for people around the world to hear your message. This is... A common interplay in these situations is there's the concept of the so-called international community, which are like-mindeds all around the world who believe in a cause or believe in a principle.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And the bigger that tent is, the more that energizes and the more that also impacts the people in the country because they will... They will hear the media sirens around the world who amplify that message. It gets out, and support can come from strange places when you sing your song loud enough. And I think you guys are doing the right thing in terms of that.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And that's really the only thing that feels appropriate for me to say, because I think below that you start to get to issues around political organizing, and it feels out of place for me to opine on that part of it.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I think it's enormous. I think that's why they want it shut down in Brazil unless compliance measures were put in place. I think that the Lula government, as well as the Biden government, was intensely aware that the power of social media would be the determinant of whether or not the election would go one way or the other.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I have quotes from the people involved in this that they believe their work censoring Bolsonaro was... in terms of tilting it in Lula's favor. There was a personal meeting, actually, Lula's... I think it was, what, his first month in office at the first meeting with the Biden administration.
PBD Podcast
USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I know you're accusing me of going back to the slideshow, but the fact is I think that a lot of people haven't seen this, and since I know that... I'm not accusing you at all.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I'm being cheeky.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Well, what I'm showing here is this is the... Okay, so this is February 2023. So I guess this was... This is a joint statement following the meeting between President Biden and President Lula. So I think this was their first meeting after the 2022 election. So today, President Biden and President Lula...
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
During the meeting, they discussed the nature of the U.S.-Brazil relationship, strengthening democracy. Go to the next slide. Biden and Lula pledged to work together to strengthen democratic institutions, which means strengthen these control networks, and reaffirmed their intention to build societal resilience to disinformation and to work together on that. So Biden and Lula pledged.
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talked about the need to stop online disinformation and agreed to work together. When I go back to this coordination between the White House, the State Department, the Pentagon, the CIA, the NGOs, this is part of an interagency working group to control the internal politics of Brazil. And that money is still flowing. And it's not just USAID. They're the biggest money spigot.
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But I'll give you some other examples because I'm actually fascinated about what something Nicholas just said about the fires. But maybe I'll start with with if you go to slide. This is, I think, 24, 24, 25. Yeah. Yeah. Next one. Sorry. 25 or 25. Can you blow that up? Okay, so here's just one. Rob, can you zoom in a little bit, even more?
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Yeah, so would you say the unions are more pro-Bolsonaro or pro-Lula in Brazil? It's a union candidate.
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Yeah, the whole thing's unions. So here's a $12 million U.S. Department of Labor. That's... my wallet, Patrick, your wallet, U.S. citizens, paying $12 million to the unions in Brazil. So I'm going to read some of these details, okay? What?
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$12 million, yes, and this was granted right after the, this was, I think the grant date for this was, start date was December 2022, right after the 2022 elections. It almost feels like a payoff for some reason. But here you go, let me read this, okay? So $22 million, I'm sorry, $12 million given to,
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And you'll see the – and in fact, if you go to the next – if you go to the one right after, you'll see – and yeah, so Brazil – and one more over. We'll come back to that in a sec. You'll see – just so you see the numbers here, right? This is on USAspending.gov. You can look this up publicly. It's still active. Brazilian unions, Lula's unions are still getting paid by you and me.
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They are taking money from us. Why? We are capacity building. I'll read you the technical reason they say why. So if you go back two slides again, let's just read this, okay? So this is, the purpose is to improve respect for labor rights and participatory planning with unions in Brazil. Again, this is the Bureau of International Labor Affairs at the Department of Labor.
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Direct financial support for workers organizing. Build cross-movement networks with civil society organization allies. Uh, representing marginalized populations and mobilize increased capacity of worker organizations to organize, mobilize, and, you know, advocate on their own behalves here.
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Um, populations and beneficiaries are in Brazil workers and unions with a focus on Afro Brazilian young and women workers. Um, And there's tie-ins to the indigenous sects in Brazil, which the U.S. State Department made a very big play for, which sort of gets me to some of the Amazon fire elements here. But this is stock standard.
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We've been funding the Lula machine from every direction, from the State Department, from USAID, from the Department of Labor, from the National Endowment for Democracy Solidarity Center. Can I go off on this for a second? Okay.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I mentioned there's four core fours for our top CIA cutout, the National Endowment for Democracy, which by the way, and you can even, you know, you can go to my X timeline or you can look it up either way. This is a direct quote from the founder of the National Endowment for Democracy at their founding that the reason
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
that they were created was because the CIA used to get in trouble for running financial assistance to political opposition groups, and it looks terrible when the CIA is seen as subsidizing them. That's why the endowment was created, the National Endowment for Democracy was created, so that the funding could be provided without CIA fingerprints on it.
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And so Ned has these four core fours that I've been talking about, right? IRI for the Republican side, NDI for the Democrat side. They have one for the Chamber of Commerce, basically business interests in the region where we do political dirty work. They will basically benefit in some way from the new government. The fourth one is called the Solidarity Center. It's the CIA's work with unions.
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The Solidarity Center's closest partner by far and away, bar none, is the group that used to be known by Democrats in the 1960s and 70s who hated their partnership with the Central Intelligence Agency. They used to call it the AFL-CIA. It's known widely as the AFL-CIO. It's the largest union in the U.S.
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It has international branches that have served for 70 years as the union arm of the Central Intelligence Agency. When we go to topple a government, we always go for the workers. Because a government can only wield the power of its own industrial base It relies on the mine workers. It relies on the transportation workers. It relies on the dock workers.
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It relies on the media and the hospital workers. If we can penetrate the workforce, we can cause the whole country to come to a standstill. And then the police are out of luck. The military are out of luck. They don't have hospitals working anymore. They don't have toilets working anymore. They don't have energy resources anymore.
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And so Solidarity Center, this gets its name from the Solidarity Movement, which was – Lech Walesa, this was the Polish union group that liberated Poland from communism during the Cold War. But they were handed bags of cash by the Central Intelligence Agency during that process. And this is a blueprint that we do all around.
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Now, it was done against left-wing socialist countries during the Cold War primarily, but now it's being done to right-wing populist movements. This is this boomerang that we're living in now. But the Solidarity Center's Basically, you know, the AFL-CIO is the main arm of the Solidarity Center.
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And the AFL-CIO, if you can look this up, before we get back to this grant, look up the AFL-CIO and who they named as man of the year. I believe it was in 2021, 2022. Yeah, put Lula or put... You can, yeah, put Lula there, you'll see. This is the, well, they gave the award here. Lula, I don't think, or scroll down. Yeah, that's the one. Okay, that's the one. But that's 2019. Oh, 2019, yes, okay.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Yeah, 2019, huh, right after.
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Right, yes, yes, that's right. Yes, AFL-CIO led that to get Lula out. Yeah, the U.S. Union, who works with the CIA around the world in its international branches. This is one year into Bolsonaro's term. They were grooming him for the task, practically. And they are our biggest union. Now, hold on. Go to the Molly Ball article online.
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Look up the Molly Ball article in Time Magazine, and I want to show you something really interesting. Time Magazine, you just put in right-wing fever dream or fortified elections. You may remember, this is one of those famous articles of the past several years.
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Oh, yeah. Well, this is yes. He got rolled by the National Endowment for Democracy. He got rolled by USAID. And that is why they are. So, OK, here you go. The secret history of the shadow campaign to save the 2020 election.
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Can you hit control? Actually, just scroll down. I believe it's the scroll down, scroll, scroll down right below the fold. OK, let me read this. There was a conspiracy unfold. This is Time magazine. They all admitted to this publicly. There was a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs.
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Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans. Also, some right-wing internationalist Republican business titans. The pact was formalized in a terse, little-knownest joint statement of the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and AFL-CIO. They had protests ready to go to shut down the U.S. government if Trump won in a fair and square election.
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You can look all this up. This is a blueprint that was planned out. You can find it on my XFeed where we can go straight to the source documents. If you go to my XFeed and you type in TIP and BLM, you'll see this. They had this whole thing planned out. They had – or just type in clear Trump win, clear Trump win. That'll get you there, too. OK, or scroll down, down to the source documents.
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Or you can do BLM. We'll get you there, too. Yeah, there you go. Scroll down. Yeah, right there. OK, so actually before I read this, if you click on the thread, you'll see the context for this. Yeah, right there. Scroll up a little bit. Or yeah, up a little. OK, all right, maybe it's different. Go down.
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You'll see, and I have on my timeline the clear term, but this is the Transition Integrity Project. Rosa Brooks, I think Undersecretary for Policy in Obama's Pentagon. They had got together with military intelligence officials and the former heads of both the DNC and RNC, Michael Steele, Donna Brazile, that whole network. They planned what to do in the event of, quote, a clear Trump win.
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This is scenario three here. Everyone can look up the source document. It's all over. I think I have the source link right there, and we can click on that right after this. But let's start here. A show of numbers in the streets and action in the streets may be the decisive factors in determining how the public perceives it.
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So what they talk about is leveraging the BLM protesters, because they did this in the height of the George Floyd riots. They said, hey... we're going to run this war game. If Trump wins, how can we still make sure, if he wins the election, how do we stop his inauguration? And look what they do in this war game.
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The person role-playing Joe Biden, who was John Podesta, who was the one at the meeting who role-played this, says that they... presupposed that the Democrats would be able to use Black Lives Matter street muscle as a destabilizing protest force and the union workers and the whole AFL-CIO network, and that basically the recommendation, because this is going to come down to action in the streets,
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is that they need to better test the likely receptivity to a Biden call to take to the streets or a Biden campaign's ability to control these actors once mobilized. This is the BLM. Control the campaign's ability to wield them. And so what they propose is to build strong ties and be responsive to BLM's demands. That way BLM will owe them a favor.
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They talk in this same thing, and you can click the hyperlink so you see. This is, I think, Boston Herald who reported this. They have the source document right here. Type control F for clear Trump win. Yeah, here it is. This is the wordplay. And just click again, and you'll get to the second one. You'll see. This is what this all falls under, okay?
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How to stop Trump from taking office if he wins fair and square. And what they called for was enhancing resources to the Black Lives Matter resource, Black Lives Matter, which, by the way, is exactly what the Chamber of Commerce did. Remember those billions of dollars from big corporations?
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And then lo and behold, there's this secret agreement which doesn't get published until six months after the election. And who was actually the one who was going to be mobilizing all of these shutdown D.C. protests? Oh, it's the CIA's top union arm, the AFL-CIO, who's behind the same thing in Brazil. And by the way, let me get the kicker here. I mentioned there's four core fours for Ned, right?
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The IRI, NDI, Solidary Center. You know what the fourth one is? It's called CPE, the Center for International Private Enterprise. You know what that is? That's the CIA's liaison to the Chamber of Commerce.
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The exact two groups, the AFL-CIO and the Chamber of Commerce, who teamed up, had an agreement published in Time magazine to oust Trump if he won the election in 2020, teamed up through the National Endowment for Democracy, working in Brazil, that ousted Bolsonaro. And if you remember, they were the ones who were training the judges. They were the ones who ran that whole network.
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NDI, they set up a whole coalition. It was called D4D, Design for Democracy, spun a spider's web around virtually every Brazilian institution around information control.
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I think assassinations are a lot rarer nowadays. They've moved towards prosecutors as a much cleaner way to do it. There's been a lot of blowback from assassinations. And they're upset about it. They're very upset about it. The interesting case of JFK, for example. And even today, the censors talk about conspiracy theories about the CIA maybe assassinating.
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It was published in the late 90s during the declassifications that the CIA was opening Lee Harvey Oswald's mail before he received it because they had a counterintelligence probe on him. What I'm getting at is it's very messy when you take out a high-profile figure in an assassination. It's messy because whenever there's a tilt of power, there are attempts to try to get transparency.
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If you read the CIA assassination guide, which I've done on my ex-account, and it's very funny. This came out during the church committee hearings. Actually, it came out in the 1990s during the JFK declassifications. Yeah.
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Um, you know, they, they talk about how it's imperative to, to make sure that there's only casual investigation afterwards and that these things don't have long memories in terms of investigation. And, uh, you know, and it was, it was outlawed and these things are never done directly by the agency.
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It's always through contractors, other groups, but what they've moved towards is judicial assassination. That's, that's the clean way to do it. You get, you get them accused of a crime, you throw them away for the rest of their life. What they try, you know, with Trump, with, you know, what they're doing to Bolsonaro and, um,
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It was my expectation that that was going to happen to me eventually, whether it was going to be under the Biden administration with the – I mean I saw practically everyone else who made impact be arrested by Merrick Garland and his goons. I thank the Lord every day that –
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That Justice Department has been replaced because I think... The joke I say is they throw me away for 30 years for premeditated jaywalking. They would find a reason, and it's as good as assassination. But that doesn't matter to me. I feel a deep sense of purpose. I'm happy that there's an audience now for the things I talk about, but I was doing it... I do it...
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Throw me in a jail cell and I'll be, you know, I'll finish my book or I'll try to convince the other people in the prison. I can't turn this off even if I wanted to. So it doesn't really feel like it's up to me.
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Oh, yeah. I mean, if you remember, they tried to... This is like... I mean, this is like stock standard, right? I mean, this is what's happening in Romania with the Georgia skew election in terms of nullifying it. I mean... Whether you remove the ballots, you can't vote for it, or you nullify the election after he wins. I mean, they're both the same thing that you can't run if you're winning.
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I mean, it's basically the rule. And this is why it's terrifying that USAID and these other, you know, intelligence and statecraft affiliated NGO swarms. Go right for the jugular, targeting the EMBs, targeting the electoral and judicial organs around deciding elections and election processes and election results. You know, I have...
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I hate to say it, but I have slides on all this prepared if you want to see straight from the horse's mouth what that looked like. Because USAID was doing the same thing, and even some of these slides that I have here, they're getting 12 countries' EMBs in a room at once. For example, in the U.S., the big EMB is the Supreme Court.
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They decided the result of Bush v. Gore when there was the Florida hanging ballot, hanging Chad situation. You know, Brazil, they have a different structure. They have their, you know, their STF and then they've got their subcourt, the TSE. And so they went for the juggernaut TSE. But as you'll see, but they also train the STF.
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In fact, if you want to pull the slide deck back up and, you know, hop on over to if you started started. Yeah. How about slide? What is this? What number is this? Slide seven.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Okay, all right. All right, next one. Okay, so you'll see here, again, this is IFAS again. This is the State Department. They get fully funded by the U.S. State Department. They implement the USAID's programs, the USAID partner and implementer on all things elections there, working with another judge here. Jose Gilberto Scandiucci.
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So now we've got Bojoso, DeMorais, Scandiucci working directly with the CEPs USAID program, which is one of the most terrifying things. But go to the next slide here real quick. Okay, well, actually, let's stay on that for a second. This is another example of how U.S. money continues to corrupt Brazil's democracy here.
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COVID, they went after Bolsonaro for questioning COVID and not streaming the vaccine. So this is Internews. Internews gets half a billion dollars a year from U.S. taxpayers. The founder of Internews talks about how... They had to constantly explain to people in foreign countries that, no, we're not the CIA. We're not CIA media. We're just funded by the U.S. government, and we're directing this.
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So Internews has a network of about 6,000 different media organizations. They train 9,000 journalists around the world. They're basically a worldwide Operation Mockingbird apparatus for the U.S. State Department to be able to create a symphony of media in foreign countries.
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Well, actually, if you pull up the clip of the CEO of, just type in CEO, go to like X and just type CEO Internews advertiser. And you'll see this was very viral.
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Elon was livid at this, as everyone should be, because I've been talking about Internews, their huge role in internet censorship, because they use the State Department's media apparatus to push advertiser boycotts and all sorts of other things. Yeah, if you start from the beginning, it's just 28 seconds, you'll see. This is the CEO of Internews right here.
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Well, are you referring, when you say they went to tell Bolsonaro, are you referring to the CIA director Lloyd Austin? I actually can pull that up on screen. If you go to the slide deck, it'll be slides starting on slide 12. I can walk you through that.
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So that's the general of, effectively, the CIA State Department USAID media octopus with thousands of tentacles around the world. Now, here's Brazil. Here's Internews in Brazil, okay? Because media promotes censorship in these countries, and that legitimizes the passage of anti-misinformation laws. When judges act corrupt...
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People don't take to the streets because internews media is saying that's what they should have done. In fact, internews will put pressure on governments if they don't censor what the State Department wants censored there. So here's what they did in COVID. They created a program in Brazil called Rooted in Trust.
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You see, it's a global pandemic information response program countering the unprecedented scale and speed and spread of rumors and misinformation. Project focuses on, you know, see, Lebanon, Mali, Colombia, Sudan, Brazil. They have a whole section on Brazil in this report as well. Look at the highlights so far. Rudy and Trust has tracked more than 19,000 rumors about the virus.
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14 languages, 81 million people. In response to the unique rumors sourced from each country context, the project has produced over 130 rumor bulletins, 500 radio broadcasts, and 480 other media stories. Through a series of training opportunities, events, peer-to-peer networks, and grants, Rooted in Trust has sponsored 550 local media organizations.
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350,000 people, almost 5,000 listening groups for this, all to basically ban the ability to question facts.
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So this is the U.S. State Department. Go to the slideshow.
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So and we'll go through this line by line here. But the U.S. State Department called in massive favors and leveraged personal connections to build voting machines for Lula aligned Brazil officials. And then the CIA warned Bolsonaro not to warrant not to mess with or cast doubt on all the new U.S. State Department secured voting machines determining his election.
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And if you go to the next slide and walk through this. So this is from the Financial Times. This piece is basically about. In fact, you go to the slide after this first. What they say is this was a concerted but unannounced. So this was basically a covert action by the Biden White House. the Biden Pentagon, the Biden CIA and the Biden State Department to fortify Brazil's election.
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Oh, nobody.
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Sure.
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Well, it comes from a lot of places. You have these Pentagon relationships between the U.S. military and the Brazilian Army. You have these state department grants to the region, which are huge. Remember, USAID is getting folded into state. So you have the state department funds. Then you also have the active AID ones that need to be cut, not just paused, but cut.
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You have the Department of Labor ones. You're probably going to have Department of Energy ones. You're going to have weird juicing of the universities through some of these other grant organs as well. There's... All of that is one thing that at least creates a fair fight. I brought up, for example, the $12 million grant to Lula's unions right after the 2022 election.
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So if you go back to the other one, the slide before. So the U.S. provided practical help in the election process to obtain components, especially semiconductors needed to manufacture the new voting machines. The former U.S. ambassador to Brazil. So they are using shadow diplomacy here because they don't want their formal U.S. State Department fingerprints on it.
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The Solidarity Center just gave a $7 million grant to the unions. That's tens of millions of dollars. You're capturing... Essentially, you're pumping up this. This is not Bolsonaro who's getting tens of millions of dollars from it. And so that also makes people... Ideology is a funny thing. Sometimes people are true believers. Most of the time, hearts and minds work is about cash.
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I always call it hearts and minds and cash because you're only really sort of getting the tail end of people through hearts and minds when they read the news. usually it's downstream of their cultural leaders, their community leaders, their politicians, their significant people of note in the country. And if you capture them with cash, you get the whole hearts and minds behind that.
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And so you take the coup cash out of Brazil, I think you will see a much fairer fight. And I think that people will be more responsive to their own people because they will not have a foreign source of funds that are basically telling them, advising what the judges should do.
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And again, getting back to that USAID CEPPS program, they literally said in the launch event of the program that one of its purposes was to make the partner networks feel supported. by the US government. So one of the reasons that you've had this, I think this perception that there's nothing to fear from any sort of anger of Americans against what Brazil did is because
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
They had the support of the Biden administration. The U.S. Embassy didn't do squat when that happened. You remember, I posted every day, day 27, day 28, here is what the U.S. Embassy page, here's their Twitter account. They're posting about, you know, disabled gymnasts in Brazil and, you know, how we need, you know, to support the LGBTQIA2++ rock climbers in Brazil. As X, a major U.S.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
champion, was shut down and as Starlink, a major U.S. military contractor, had its assets seized. And as they began to potentially move into the Chinese Starlink competitor into that, this is the sort of thing we have a State Department to stop from happening. And the State Department was – their silence –
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
combined with the fact that they have formal State Department programs to make this happen, formal USAID programs to make this happen, you have Biden and Lula colluding on it. They wanted that to happen. They were supported for that to happen.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
The SEPS program literally says that the plan is to get foreign countries to implement legal and regulatory measures to go after the social media companies to force accountability on them.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
They're going to aid the former US ambassador in Brazil to leverage his personal connections with Taiwan Semiconductor, And to leverage those connections, I'm sorry, inside of the Texas instruments to distinguish semiconductor needs and give priority. Now, we have a semiconductor shortage here in the U.S. They are diverting semiconductor chips that the U.S.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
I think my opinions on this are not hard to tease out from what I say, but I do feel it is inappropriate for me to... My mission is about speech freedom.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And in the course of that, I talk about all these adjacent things. I talk about the unions and the universities and all these other things because that's important to understand how the apparatus works why they were doing the censorship and the other things related to that operation. But that's for the Brazilian people to decide. And I think what was done to Bolsonaro was a human rights violation.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
It was the sort of thing that we typically put sanctions on foreign countries. for doing in terms of destroying the democratic process. This is what we have democracy promotions programs to stop. When countries arrest their political opponents, when their court systems get corrupt. That's why we have a judicial reform mandate for USAID is when
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
court systems get too corrupt to use the carrots and sticks of our diplomatic sphere to get them to course correct their judiciary. In this case, we literally did it to them. We said, you're not corrupt enough. You need to get more corrupt. But this is a testament to the corruption we had in our own country. under the Biden administration. And in the beginning, this happened under Trump's nose.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
needs and sending them to Brazil, a foreign country, to add voting machines that the democratically elected president of Brazil doesn't want. The U.S. State Department and some senior Brazilian officials also asked Taiwanese authorities to give priority to Brazil's need for semiconductors, which are used in the voting machines. And then if you go to the next slides here. Yeah.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Part of this is because USAID does not have to report to the president when they do these type of operations. Unlike the CIA, they do not need to get a presidential finding for covert action. They can simply earmark the funds for humanitarian relief in Pakistan And then just run it through contractors to do things in Brazil.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
And I think the Trump administration had so much going on with Russiagate and everything else happening at DHS and the border and COVID. And they frankly didn't really know how the anatomy of the beast that they were operating on. This is why I'm so encouraged that USAID was targeted in this way right out the gate.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
So that at least you stop the the the bleeding and you go straight to the heart of it, which leads to, you know, all the other malfeasance in the Intel world and its state and and DOD. But, you know, the yes, but but that is for the Brazilian people to decide. But I'm interested, obviously, in the human rights act.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
So then I say what's funny is both the 1964 military hunt in Brazil and the 2022 judicial hunt in Brazil received direct help from the CIA to rise to power. And then if you. If you go to the next one, you'll see CIA chief, this is Reuters, told Bolsonaro government not to mess with Brazil election. This is in May 2022. 64 is cool.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Brother Sam.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Yeah. Yeah. But I want to just just kind of close the loop on this, because if you go to the next one, next slide. Yeah. So Bill Burns makes a personal voyage. This is months before the election even happens. We are now force-feeding Brazil electronic voting machines the elected president doesn't even want in the country. And so the State Department is doing that.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Then we send in our covert action boys, the CIA, to say, don't you cast doubt. Look at the language told Brazilian senior officials that President Bolsonaro should stop casting doubt on his country's voting system. It's not even his country's voting system. We sent the semiconductor chips to build that because Brazil didn't want them themselves.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
So we're putting the machines in there and then telling them, don't question the results of these machines. So go to the next one. So then this is also some foreign policy. A month after Bill Burns, it was the Pentagon secretary, Lloyd Austin's turn to go down to Brazil and push the chief of the Brazilian armed forces to commit to actually do a pledge. Go to the next slide.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Brazil manifestos seek to rein in Bolsonaro before election. This is before the election in a July conference with regional defense ministers. So we are personally paying as U.S. taxpayers for the head of the Central Intelligence Agency to go down there. We are. suffering under a chip shortage, and we are getting that diverted so that electronic voting machines can go down.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Then we are paying for the flights of the CIA director to go down and warn them not to cast doubt on the machines that they couldn't build without us and that the president didn't want. So this was – and actually, let me show you something else here as well.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
Why do they care? So – My focus on this is on the internet censorship side. I love the people of Brazil. I love Brazilian Zouk dancing. I've always been around Brazilian people. I don't speak Portuguese. But I didn't seek this out. This was something that was an unavoidable, inescapable reality of the US censorship work that I was focused on.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
It was a recurring fact since Trump won the election in 2016, as soon as Bolsonaro started gaining traction in Brazil, that these issues were interlinked, that they wanted to stop Bolsonaro for the same reasons they wanted to stop Donald Trump. I have that much 100%. There are other issues.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
So I have this big unpublished report that I'm just showing you some things from here tonight, but that'll be published sometime in the next several months. There is the open question. So the technical reason they said they did it is because Bolsonaro was a threat to democracy. Who's they? The CIA and Biden? The CIA, Biden, State Department, USAID, the NGO swarm.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
We have this concept called democracy promotion programs.
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USAID Corruption & Brazil's Elections w/ Nikolas Ferreira & Mike Benz | PBD Podcast | Ep. 550
which is this idea that if something is categorized as an authoritarian threat or it leads to illiberal democracy without sufficient democratic institutional safeguards, we deputize our democracy promotion programs to basically overturn their governments, to do regime change operations, to institute judicial reforms in the country, to control their prosecutors.
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their judges, their universities, their unions, their media ecosystems in order to manage their democracy. And when something gets categorized as a threat to democracy, that's a technical term that unleashes the capabilities of our regime change apparatus. Now, they did that to Trump. They did that to Bolsonaro. There are.
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Zelenskyy's OMINOUS Putin Threat | PBD Podcast | Ep. 568
So they want to focus on this. It's embarrassing. Yes. We're going to get to the bottom of it. We've have I just talked to Elon on the way here. We've got the best technical minds looking at how this happened. Weird. But I can tell you, I can tell you for 100 percent. I don't know this guy. I know him by his horrible reputation, and he really is the bottom scum of journalists.
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And I know him in the sense that he hates the president, but I don't text him. He wasn't on my phone, and we're going to figure out how this happened.
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Zelenskyy's OMINOUS Putin Threat | PBD Podcast | Ep. 568
Well, look, a staffer wasn't responsible. And look, I take full responsibility. I built the I built the group. My job is to make sure everything's coordinated. I mean, I don't mean to be pedantic here, but how did the number have you ever had? Have you ever had somebody's contact that shows their name and then you have and then you have somebody else's number there? Those mistakes. Right?
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You've got somebody else's number on someone else's contact. So, of course, I didn't see this loser in the group. It looked like someone else. Now, whether he did it deliberately or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out. Hold on.
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Canada CAVES To Trump Tariff Threats In Trade War | PBD Podcast | Ep. 561
You guys got volume? You know, liquefied natural gas is in great demand by our allies. Why would you do that? Because you understand, we just talked about Ukraine. You understand you're fueling Vladimir Putin's war machine because they've got to get their gas from him. And he looks at me, stunned, and he said, I didn't do that. And I said, Mr. President, yes, you did.
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It was an executive order, like, you know, three weeks ago. And he goes, no, I didn't do that. And he's arguing with me. I said, Mr. President... respectfully, could I go out here and ask your secretary to print it out? We'll read it together. You definitely did that. And he goes, oh, you talk about natural gas. Yes, sir. He said, no, no, you misunderstand.
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He said, what I did is I signed this thing to, we're going to conduct a study on the effects of LNG. I said, no, you're not, sir. You paused it. I know. I have the terminal, the export terminal in my state. I talked to those people this morning. This is doing massive damage to our economy, national security. It occurred to me, Barry, he was not lying to me.
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He genuinely did not know what he had signed. And I walked out of that meeting with fear and loathing because I thought, we're in serious trouble. Who is running the country? Like, I don't know who put the paper in front of him, but he didn't know. If it's illegal.
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If it turned out that our own intelligence services were involved in or allowed purposefully the assassination of our own president, that would have, I think, implications diplomatically for U.S. standing abroad. So this is really one of the first litmus tests about how serious the Trump administration is about cleaning up the agencies.
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Someone who gets access to high level political figures, cultural figures who can swing hearts and minds, business figures. You know, if I came to you and I said, I'm Mike Benz, I work for the CIA, Tell me all your secrets. You know, you're not going to do that.
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But if you think that I'm, you know, a fun loving guy who's got access to beautiful women and I throw great parties and I can take you and your friends on a great vacation and we've got common business interests and.
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you know i will learn things in the process of those conversations that i can then relay to you know folks in the intelligence world who simply want to know what the next move is of these of these political figures or of these billionaire you know uh billionaire investors or or funders it's also a way to broker deals in a way where you you effectively have a back channel
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
Oftentimes these these high level business deals between nation states and also between nation states and corporations need a little bit of massaging from from back channels, from interlocutors, from go betweens who don't formally represent that foreign government or that government like the State Department. Great example. This is Bill Burns, who is the CIA director for Joe Biden.
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for President Biden for all four years. He was picked to be the head of the Central Intelligence Agency, having never worked for the CIA. He had spent 35 years in the State Department. He negotiated the Iran deal for President Obama. And then he went to work at a think tank for seven years. And then he, you know, How does someone like Bill Burns know how all the gadgets work?
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How does he know how to work the cockpit of the CIA having never worked there? And the answer is because when he worked for the Carnegie Endowment for National Peace, which he was the president of for seven years before he got the CIA job, that's one of those think tanks that's at the center of this back-channel statecraft.
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In fact, his own autobiography is called The Back Channel and basically details the role of his role and the role of his network in being able to massage deals in the background, like the Iran deal. If you're going to line up something like the Iran deal, which was this early 2015 pivotal moment that created this big rift between Israel and NATO, it created this big rift between the
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the Obama foreign policy world and much of the bipartisan buy-in that existed between the certain factions within the GOP, I think that really cleared the way for Trump. But to line that up, you're going to need all the different stakeholders And sometimes you can't send in a formal U.S. State Department person to do that.
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You might want to convey a more heavy-handed message that you don't want to be on the record conveying. But if a back channel conveys it, then you can deny it later. Same thing. So whether that's brokering deals, whether that's setting up informal networks, this is a big part of how Statecraft operates.
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We don't. There could be bombshells, there could be a nothing burger, There could be bombshells that are redacted. I know that the president has come out and said that he's going to try to prevent any redactions from this was when Pam Bondi declared that they were going to come out a while ago.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
You have these formal bureaus and these formal divisions and formal W-2 employees at state or CIA. But most of the work happens at the informal layer where someone from state or someone from the intelligence world who is running information
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who's basically a symphony orchestra conductor of these outside groups that are informal and that can massage it, can get a general sort of set of terms lined up, who can convey sanctions are going to be forthcoming or whatever the message is, and also who can
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gather intelligence that can be used that you can't necessarily get if you are in the intel world and you don't know who's all going to be there. You can't necessarily tap all their phones or maybe they just bought a burner phone. You need a fly on the wall. You need someone in the room. And I think that is probably the closest to the Epstein story. And I don't know which government It is.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
It could be there's obviously a U.S. government connection in the sense that an American prosecutor was told not to go through with prosecution because he belonged to intelligence. So you obviously have at least the U.S. government involved in that. And again, when you date it back to this whole Iran-Contra network, that was a U.S. government activity.
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And this was this whole Adnan Khashoggi network that Wexner and Epstein ran through. They were involved in the illegal arms sales to Iran to evade sanctions by back-channeling the whole thing. And then the guy goes on to negotiate the sale of a CIA proprietary airline. There's obviously U.S. statecraft. There could also be British statecraft involved.
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There could also be Israeli statecraft involved. These things often move together and have for a century. And so I hear a lot about the blackmail story, though, with Epstein, and that's That's where I'd like to see more evidence.
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You would think. But there's also, you know, there's weird examples of this happening without blackmail. There was a case in the early 2000s with a private military contractor called DynCorp.
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And DynCorp was implicated, and they were actually banned from being able to get government contracts for a certain time after that because they were supplying young girls to these Arab sheikhs and to these sort of paramilitary leaders in Central Asia and Middle East, North Africa. And, you know, this was like human trafficking.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
These are young girls that were basically given, you know, as a way of juicing deals and as a way of, you know, sort of making their clients happy. But that didn't necessarily involve... There wasn't a blackmail situation going on. It was a service provided, basically.
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She said subject to, you know, redactions about national security concerns around the I guess this was around the Epstein disclosures. And that prompted this sort of public backlash. What could undermine U.S. national security about what's in the Epstein documents?
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And so what I... I feel like it's presupposed that it's a blackmail ring. And I would think with the thousands of people that Epstein had as clients or was constantly interfacing with that one person, one person would come out and say, yes, Epstein or an Epstein associate directly tried to blackmail me with, you know, potentially incriminating information. you know, evidence from a video camera.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
I mean, someone could... With the thousands of people who were implicated in these Lolita Express, you know, Little St. James Island trips, you would think that one per... Now, you might say, okay, well, no one wants to come forward because they don't want to reveal that they had been blackmailed. But, you know, people can be down on their luck and have little to lose and much to gain.
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I mean, frankly, you don't even need to say what was necessarily on it. You can imagine the multimillion-dollar book deal you get by claiming that you are the victim of this extortion. And the fact that not a single person, to my knowledge, has come out and said that is... it doesn't sit well with me that it should just be presupposed in that way.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
If you look at, for example, Epstein's relationship with people like Ehud Barak, who is the former prime minister of Israel, was constantly Jeffrey Epstein's penthouse. Houd Barak was working closely with the West exec, which was the main sort of foreign policy, national security intelligence incubator hub for the Biden White House.
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That was where Jake Sullivan and all of these other national security experts were. And they were consulting with the Houd Barak. And Houd Barak was tightly aligned with them on foreign policy against Trump world things. I suspect that Epstein was sort of synthesizing in the network. Same thing with Reid Hoffman.
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I know that there's Elon currently has a feud with Reid Hoffman, who sponsored a number of these anti-Trump, anti-Elon groups. Billionaire, highly influential in Democrat politics. I'm not convinced that Hoffman was being blackmailed by Epstein so much as you're trying to gather intelligence on them.
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And the other thing is if somebody in the network squeals to a friend because they're being pressured or extorted, hey, Epstein is trying to blackmail me. Well, that makes Epstein useless because that word gets around there. If I'm being blackmailed, I might tell my mom and dad, I might tell my best friend, they're trying to blackmail me. I don't even need to say what I'm being blackmailed for.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
And I think there's a similar perception about the JFK assassination that there are implications for national security and for American standing if it does turn out that there was malfeasance or foreknowledge coming from the national security state. There's a lot of very strange evidence around the role of our own intelligence services in the death of JFK.
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That immediately creates a pressure valve on the person, and that word gets around, and then they say, okay, I don't want to hang around with this guy because there are rumors that he's blackmailing this other person. And then there goes all the access. There goes, you know, your access to Bill Gates and Reid Hoffman and heads of state all over the world. So...
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I think there's layers to it, if that makes sense.
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It's tough. I mean, on the first question about why the U.S. would continue to have dealings with Epstein after the first indictments came down, These networks are always very, very messy.
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When you're talking about this sort of back-channel intelligence work, when you're talking about moving illegal arms or narcotics or working in shady conflict zones and things like this, it tends to attract a cowboy type who is singularly capable of doing things that a more straight-laced person with a clean record can't really pull off. I mean, a great example of this is Hunter Biden.
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Hunter Biden has gotten in a lot of trouble throughout his life. You know, he was kicked out of the Navy for cocaine. He I don't know what possessed him to do this particular part, but he was recording on his own laptop him snorting lines of cocaine while, you know, sleeping with Russian prostitutes and, you know, negotiating what girls to bring over and pay for cocaine.
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carrying around unlicensed firearms and the litany of, he didn't pay his taxes for five whole years in a row. And yet he was on the chairman's advisory board of the NDI. The NDI is the National Democratic Institute. It's the DNC branch of the National Endowment for Democracy, which is a literal CIA cutout.
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Again, it was conceived by the CIA in 1983 because they were sad that they had lost their powers after the church committee hearings in the late 1970s. The founder of the National Endowment for Democracy said it was terrible in the 1960s and 70s when the CIA was seen as subsidizing political dissident groups.
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That's why the endowment was created, so that we could provide the funding and it wouldn't look like the CIA was going to do it. The CIA gets a copy of every grant that the National Endowment for Democracy makes. They have two political branches, the IRI, the International Republican Institute for Republicans, and the NDI, the National Democratic Institute for Democrats.
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And Hunter Biden was on the chairman's advisory board after that stuff. And also the NDI was run by Madeleine Albright, who was the secretary of state under Bill Clinton. But Hunter Biden is also being tasked with effectively conducting a form of covert corporate espionage and statecraft while he's at Burisma.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
There's a great book called JFK and the Unspeakable, which documents much of this. You know, the CIA was opening the mail, for example, of Lee Harvey Oswald for months before the assassination, suspecting formally that he was a counter... It was a counterintelligence probe, basically, that he might be working for Russia, and so...
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They were pitching Burisma to the State Department as being a way to hedge Europe off of Russian gas by building up Ukraine's endogenous gas supply and working directly with the State Department in a number of regions. They petitioned the government of Italy to get them deals. They petitioned the State Department in Foggy Bottom to
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
You know, to juice the skids in Ukraine, you had Joe Biden personally go to Ukraine and threaten a billion, you know, withholding a billion dollar USAID loan guarantee to remove the prosecutor who is investigating. But the question is, why would you task Hunter Biden to do that? There's a bunch of Bidens. You had James Biden. You had the nieces, the nephews. Or you could just have a friend.
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But why was it Hunter? And part of this is These personality types, first of all, you're also dealing in a lot of these cases with organized crime networks where crime is not a disqualifier to daily life, especially if you're in a place where you control the prosecutors and you know you're not going to get arrested for various things, whether that's drugs or prostitution or guns or drugs.
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deals that evade sanctions. And so it is dirty work. And so often that requires dirty people to do it. And someone walking in with a totally clean record and no rap sheet is often a stick in the mud or can't speak the lingo or can't hang. And you accrue that over years and they have no, so they have no access. They
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
You know, it's just like in the role of organized crime when it comes to the JFK story and with the Epstein story, with the Hunter Biden story, and that... Same thing with Iran-Contra.
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Barry Seale was the guy who was the cocaine cowboy who was flying the drugs in and out of Nicaragua when we were using those drugs to convert to cash, to buy the guns, to get around the congressional blockade on using U.S. taxpayer funds to do it. But why did you pick this cocaine cowboy to be the one flying this? Well, because he was an ace pilot. He... Could speak the lingo with the locals.
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He knew the people on the ground. They trusted him. And so he's the way you get access. I mean, you see this story not infrequently in movies. And I think not for the wrong reason.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
Well, I think it gets back to the fact that no one could quite make out who he really was. You know, I come back to that quote from like the New Yorker or whatever it was where they said no one can tell if he's a real estate broker, you know, a CIA agent, a concert pianist, you know, or a massage. It's.
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and basically monitoring his communications and mail beforehand, you have a number of other strange circumstances around the events that happened that day. And if it did turn out, for example, that there was a role of our own intelligence services in that assassination, you can imagine the diplomatic backlash that would have for our own State Department.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
you have a guy who's got a very very strange backstory getting into this ridiculous position of power and privilege someone who you know would was only on on wall street for a couple years before he basically inherits this massive portfolio and is able to
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You know, get access to like I come back to the how do you how if I tried to negotiate the sale of a CIA proprietary airline, you know, as a regular civilian would make no sense. How do you even get the access? How would you even get in position to do that? But.
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You know, there was a very strange backstory even to that, because you had this, you know, this Iran-Contra situation in the early 80s, and then you had this network in Columbus, Ohio, that was under investigation, and then the main attorney representing that Columbus network, this guy Arthur Shapiro, everyone can look up this mysterious 1985
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assassination of Arthur Shapiro, which was in the middle of this Iran-Contra scandal. He was the guy who was handling the he represented the law firm that was handling the accounts for this Ohio network. He had not filed taxes for something like seven years. It's another one of these Hunter Biden type situations. So he was under the gun of an IRS investigation.
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He was murdered the day before he was set to testify to the grand jury in the IRS case. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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When we go around and we accuse the FSB or something in Russia or Chinese intelligence services or Iranian intelligence services of malfeasance or human rights violations,
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
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If it turned out that our own intelligence services were involved in or allowed purposefully the assassination of our own president, especially one whose name lives on in, you know, the Kennedy family is still a significant part of the Democrat Party. You have Bobby Kennedy, who is the current head of HHS. This is not ancient history. This is a family name that lives on.
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That would have, I think, implications diplomatically for U.S. standing abroad. And I could see there being a knife fight within the national security community about trying to redact the most damning evidence. And so this is really one of the first litmus tests about how serious the Trump administration is about cleaning up the agencies in terms of transparency for past malfeasance.
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Where I am on it currently is it does seem like Epstein was an access agent. There's a question of how much smoke do you need to have before you just come out and say, there's a dang fire.
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It's easy to go after things like Crossfire Hurricane or times when Trump himself was personally attacked. But they've been serious about cleaning up the personnel side. They're in the process of firing or offering golden handcuffs to The CIA, they've decimated the staff at USAID. So I think they mean business, but it's a question about whether or not they can get it done.
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It is. In fact, that was actually one of the reasons it was set up in the first place. If you go back and you read the inauguration of organized political warfare by George Kennan, who was the head of policy planning staff for the State Department in the 40s and 50s, he was the guy who would, weeks after he wrote this memo, would actually create this NSC 10-2 plausible deniability thing.
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And he wrote this memo a couple weeks before that cloak of plausible deniability was granted to the CIA. And He laid out that we need to do this dirty work of the inauguration of organized political warfare, that we need a formal political warfare capacity that is going to have to work with the criminal underworld. It's going to have to work with all the media outlets.
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It's going to have to work with the unions. It's got to set up all these front entities and it's going to have to create informal channels for all this. And what he says is if we don't do this. then the Bolsheviks will. And so we're going to... And he gives another example where he says the Brits have been doing this for over a century.
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So basically, the Brits or the Bolsheviks are going to dominate the 20th century with their organized political warfare apparatus if the State Department doesn't have this and if we don't create an intelligence capacity to execute that. And so I think that is true. And That's why I think what's happening right now to me is inspiring because it's getting national consciousness to a level that's
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I think, smarter than it was. And sometimes that veers you in stupid directions as you're trying to figure out how it all works. You see one thing and then you fixate on it and you think, okay, everything's this. You see another thing, you go, okay, no, no, actually that was wrong. It's this. You see, okay, it's this.
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And then you go out in these directions and you sort of, but over time, it's just a network and it's just how the world works. And That's not to excuse the immorality of organized crime or of intelligence gone wrong. And there is the potential need for that dirty work to be done, if for no other reason than to combat the dirty work being done by other countries. But it can still it can go rogue.
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It can go too wrong, can go unaccounted for for too long. And I think that is where we are. And that is why I think that it is so important that these disclosures come out to the maximum extent possible. And we went through this before and we lived.
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In 1975, during the church committee hearing, when the Democrats held a series of investigations and hearings into the CIA, the FBI, the NSA, and the IRS, You had a moment where the head of the CIA counterintelligence was holding up a heart attack gun about how we assassinate people with a gun that shoots a dart that makes it look like the person died of a heart attack.
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If we could survive that level of transparency, where we're literally showing our own assassination technique to how to kill someone and get away with it by making it look like they died of a heart attack, I think that... You can do that today.
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And frankly, I think the disclosures that came out then is is part of how the CIA survived at a time when it was under huge pressure from Democrats because of their work against the Democrat Party, when it was against the Vietnam War and and it was being that political warfare is being done domestically. So I think this is a healthy process. It's noisy and chaotic.
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and can result in some turbulence. But I think it's part of the cleaning house process. It's gone on too far too long.
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I Don't think There's a question of how much smoke do you need to have before you just come out and say there's a dang fire I mean you had The confluence of strange facts on the ground that are indisputable is something you seldom have in a case like this. You have the both of the security cameras malfunctioning with none of the footage, you know, retainable.
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You have the pages in the visitor's log ripped out, you know, an unrecoverable from who actually visited the prison. You have both of the security guards falling asleep or walking off the job. You have the head of the Justice Department who's in charge of the FBI. The FBI is the intelligence arm of the Justice Department.
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And the person who would be prosecuting whoever killed Epstein if he died by homicide happened to be Bill Barr himself. Bill Barr's father, Donald Barr, was personally the math teacher, was the high school teacher of Jeffrey Epstein. You have the direct family connection between the head of the Justice Department and Epstein. Then you have the fact that Bill Barr started his career in the CIA.
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He told his high school guidance counselor he wanted to be the head of the CIA. He then worked immediately for the CIA for seven years to start his career. He only became disenchanted with the CIA when when the reforms were made in the late 1970s to fire 30 percent of the workforce after the church committee hearings. He went to night law school while he was working for the CIA.
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He then got his first legal job effectively while he was serving as the the CIA's liaison attorney. to the Congressional Committee investigating Iran-Contra. You can read this in the Washington Post and the New York Times.
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They described Bill Barr in the early 1980s as the CIA's mop-up man because he was the one who was the blocker and tackler to prevent CIA disclosures about the illegal activities of the Republican Reagan-Bush administration during Iran-Contra. The exact... origin story for how Epstein even came into this world in the first place.
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And so the secrets of the Epstein universe, I think, are the secrets of the Bill Barr universe. And the fact that Bill Barr was the head of the Justice Department while all this happened. And it didn't even look like there was an attempt, frankly. I mean, if you go back to those news cycles, oh, the security cameras are gone. Oh, the visitors' logs are gone. Oh, the security guards fell asleep.
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And it was almost like jumping on the grenade immediately as it happened. And it's not the first time you have these strange things. I mean, Ghislaine Maxwell's father, Robert Maxwell, fell off a yacht in 1991. Just just oh, well, I guess that's a suicide, too. And then it comes out later that he was working for Israeli intelligence at the time and potentially British intelligence.
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And, you know, it had been known as this publisher. But then in death, we find out that there's this big intelligence network and that happens to be. a close partner of U.S. intelligence on many foreign policy issues.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
So the other thing is when you read CIA assassination guides, as I've done on my own streams, there's so much attention paid to trying to minimize and ensure that there's only a casual investigation afterwards, that you create the appearance of an accident. You know, you can't you can't. To me, I that level of evidence shifts the burden to where I think you need to presume that it is.
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But if there if there is, you know, evidence that absolves the bill bar Justice Department of that, I would be open to it. But I think that the burden has flipped where you need to presume suicide.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
I think for the same national security reason that we've been talking about, which is that whether it's US intelligence, British intelligence, Israeli intelligence, whether it's implicating specific things about those networks or about the modalities through which those networks operate.
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So, for example, if those files show that Epstein belonged to intelligence and was reporting directly his conversations about the Iran deal, about his conversations with Ahud Barak, to Bill Burns, I guess that was after it, but to the CIA director or to the Justice Department or to the FBI, you can imagine that straining relations between U.S. and Israel.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
If it comes out that there's a CIA memo that says, you know, we know this about Epstein, he's doing this work for us, but he's also doing this work for the Brits or for the Israelis, you could see a situation where you might have delegations from those governments pushing on the State Department, pushing on the CIA, pushing on FBI,
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pushing on the Justice Department to not do that because it implicates their own national security. And this gets back to this sort of strange entanglement within the intelligence world where you have these intelligence coalitions. You have them in the five eyes. And so in theory, I mean, you can imagine a situation where, let's just say there's some joint intelligence work we're doing, the U.S.
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is doing with New Zealand. And there's some common network that we're surveying. We have assets on the ground. There are Let's just say we're doing something in like Burma or... Vietnam. Let's just say there's some network. We're trying to pry the Chinese influence off of Vietnam. And you've got these New Zealand contacts, and we're sharing intelligence.
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And in these intelligence analyst memos or embassy cables, they talk openly about national secrets shared from the United States to the Five Eyes coalition. And then there's a movement within New Zealand to You know, some political party in New Zealand says the national security state has been oppressing us and we think that they've been, you know, politicized and are impacting domestic politics.
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We want all these files about, you know, their work within these regions to be public. You can imagine a State Department delegation saying you better redact these documents. We told you these secrets and confidence. And so you can imagine diplomatic blowback. You could imagine, you know, threats to the coalition. And so it's that layer of it.
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especially when you look at how deep the relationships go. I mean, almost always US, UK, Israel, and potentially some other partner countries have moved together as a coalition bloc.
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I mean, for 80 years now, and it's almost always, even when it's not immediately a joint coalition, there's synchronization that's done to ensure that there's some compromised position that's happening on foreign policy, that's happening on Iran.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
Now, some of this fell apart under the Obama administration with the schism that opened up with Obama going through with the Iran deal against the protestations of Israel. and against the protestations of Saudi Arabia, who's another close partner in this. And it's also, I should really add Saudi Arabia to this list because the Khashoggi network was working directly with the Epstein network.
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And Saudi Arabia is another one of these Middle Eastern countries who's closely aligned with U.S. foreign policy. Both Israel and Saudi Arabia, they really came together
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after decades of you know of disputes and not you know recognizing each other diplomatically and things because they were both commonly threatened by the obama iran deal trump gets an office and you know eliminates that as his first week and then you know kushner and in the white house end up you know going through the abraham accords and sort of trying to tie them together by economic development but then
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They ran these operations against Trump, who was, you know, and so you have this almost ancient relationship that only a decade ago start to develop its fissures. And then those fissures have been, you know, widening and narrowing over the past eight years through, you know, the Obama, Trump, Biden, Trump thing.
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And I could see there being certain aspects that might be embarrassing that would be allowed because they embarrass one side of that aisle. It is... But I don't know how that how that'll play out because of the the likely perception for the need to maintain the enthusiastic support of allies.
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You know, during the Trump administration or whether or not the Trump administration, Trump doesn't, you know, if you're going to throw caution to the wind and say, I don't need to get reelected. We're also reorganizing everything with USAID being reshuffled and, you know, with the. with what we're doing at the NGO layer, maybe it's time to renegotiate all these relationships.
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And there's a chance that that could happen with the UK. I know Trump has reiterated, you know, the special relationship, but there's also a lot of conflict over what the Labour Party is doing on human rights grounds with free speech and the tension around Ukraine that is, you know, could potentially lead to a rift there. But
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Whatever happens with the Files, I think, is an interesting litmus test for how those relationships are going to go.
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I think the role of unions in organized crime and statecraft, as we were discussing earlier, is something that has to be much more robustly explored. One of the main things that I think is likely to destabilize the U.S. in the next few years, as it was during Trump's first term, were these rent-a-riot pop-up protests that can completely destabilize a country when All the workers are walking out.
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Yeah, I mean, there's always an overworld-underworld connection to these things, whether that's in assassinations or whether that's in smuggling narcotics or smuggling goods or arms. This actually gets to the Epstein network as well. I mean, you have these... Jeffrey Epstein was...
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They're blocking the highways. They're provoking the police. So you're left with either a sort of authoritarian crackdown or, you know, your police precinct burns to the ground, as what happened in Minneapolis. But a lot of this is intermediated by the unions and these groups like AFL-CIO and SEIU and whatnot. And while there's been much attention by Doge on USAID,
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and on the NGOs, I think there's this very unexplored layer which needs to be renegotiated, which is U.S. financial assistance to unions and worker groups internationally with that money boomeranging back home to spill into paid protests. And so I think that's something that the Justice Department, the Department of Labor, and the State Department need to seriously reevaluate.
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I mean, it's sort of it's interesting how these things line up and how they're both coming to a head simultaneously with these attempted disclosures, because, you know, the Kennedy assassination was in 63. The Epstein story really goes back to the 1980s, not too long after after, you know, the the JFK assassination and aftermath. And they both involve this overworld-underworld connection.
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You had the Teamsters that were alleged to have had a role in it. You had the fight with the unions. The unions play a really interesting role in statecraft because... They serve as rent-a-riot muscle when we're trying to destabilize a country, when we're doing color revolution work to try to mobilize a wellspring within a country to unseat its government.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
The first thing we do is we go to the trade labor groups, the unions, the workers movements in the country, and then we try to destabilize the industry from within. We cause mass walkouts. We have people, instead of making sure the trains run on time, They're walking out of the hospitals. They're walking out of the, you know, the state run media organizations. They're walking out of daycare.
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They're blocking the highways. And that brings the instruments of a dictator to a halt, as we sort of put it. They can't weaponize their own power arm because there's nobody There's nobody to basically man those stations of power.
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And oftentimes, these are rough and tumble types who will take to the streets, especially if they're getting money on the side from a USAID or a National Endowment for Democracy or a State Department. So why we have the National Endowment for Democracy has a specific center called the Solidarity Center, which NED is effectively a CIA front.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
It was conceived in the office of the Central Intelligence Agency director, William Casey, in 1983. It was sort of replacing the old CIA function after the CIA got in trouble in the 1980s. during the church committee hearings. And they have an arm called the Solidarity Center, which goes out around the world and works with the unions. And the unions are very close to the organized crime nexus.
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I mean, this is something that is not just a sort of Hollywood theme or like a Sopranos-style theme where you have, you know, the unions and the mafia, but this goes back
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a very long time because you have these rough and tumble types who will you know do dirty deeds done dirt cheap they are often at the exact nexus of the logistics chain for intelligence work so for example if we are running arms to rebels in nicaragua in nicaragua as we were doing during the iran contra scandal You're going to need those arms shipped from ports in Miami or Tampa or New Orleans.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
You're going to need the dock workers who are on board. The dock workers, the shipping magnets, the whole logistics chain is going to have to run through the people at the docks who are putting the cargo in and who are not looking or not reporting what's inside them. And that's simultaneously an organized crime type activity when you're talking about
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the sale or movement of narcotics or illegal arms. This is something that Epstein himself was involved with to sort of connect this Epstein-JFK world in the sense that Jeffrey Epstein, his whole network was involved in Iran-Contra in the early 1980s.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
It was Jeffrey Epstein who helped move Southern Air Transport, which was a CIA proprietary airline from Miami to Columbus, Ohio, which is where Les Wexner was. you know, his main backer.
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JFK Files, Epstein and the Deep State - Mike Benz
So he basically had a CIA airline that was implicated in illegal drugs and gun running in the 1980s, moved directly to Columbus, Ohio, exactly where Epstein had bought property and Les Wexner, his principal sponsor, who he had power of attorney over his whole financial empire. You know, that was...
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To me, you have this, what's most interesting about it is when the organized crime activity is actually sanctioned by the intelligence state. And that's where I think you get into the dirty laundry that the Trump administration is going to have to think long and hard about the degree to which you want to expose. because it's not just us in the U.S. who see these disclosures. It's everybody else.
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And then suddenly these things get held up at the United Nations. These things are persuasive to neutrals like in India or a European country who might be caught between worlds like a
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You can very easily see neutrals being persuaded to think, okay, well, if they were backing the organized crime networks here, and in this case, and we know that there are these unions who are getting these USAID grants or who are meeting with the U.S.
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Embassy here, and they're causing us a hard time, it could cause a crackdown on a lot of the soft power influence nodes that we still have in existence today.
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Well, no one really knows. It's a black box. There's so many potentials for what it could be.
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Yeah, well, you know, he's a guy who was linked at a young age to our own former head of the Justice Department when he, you know, suicided himself, effectively. I mean, I don't know... I don't know how many people to this day believe it was genuinely a suicide. But the fact is, is, you know, he he came up through through. He was the official story is he was working in finance at Bear Stearns.
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He develops a close relationship with Leslie Wexner, who was the head of limited brands, which was the largest retailer in the country in the 1980s. He was given power of attorney over Les Wexner's entire financial empire, was basically given penthouses for a dollar and was completely hooked up to this powerful retail magnet and
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was involved in bundling money for the Clinton administration during the 1990s. As I mentioned, he was involved in basically personally negotiating the transfer of a CIA proprietary airline directly to his sponsor's home city. That airliner then would carry the goods of limited brands to and from Hong Kong.
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And then you had Wexner, I'm sorry, then you had Epstein get in trouble with these companies you know, criminal indictment charges around underage girls in the, you know, in the late 90s.
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Then you had Alex Acosta, who was the federal prosecutor that was in charge of the Epstein case, being questioned in 2017 about why he didn't, you know, why he gave basically a wrist slap to Epstein after his second indictment then. And he really ignited this in a
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various charges or try to throw the book at epstein was because he was quote told the back off because epstein belongs to intelligence and that produced you know a huge curiosity because epstein going back decades had been accused variously of working for the cia of working for israeli intelligence of having connections to british intelligence and you know i think there's a great quote that was in i think the new yorker magazine in the mid-1990s
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And it went something like, no one knows if Jeffrey Epstein is an insurance broker, a concert pianist, a CIA agent, like a retail magnet associate or a Mossad agent. And there is something, John Kiriakou, who's a former CIA agent, I think put it, The most, where I am on it currently is it does seem like Epstein was an access agent. And it's unclear whether... Sorry, can I just stop you there?
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Trump Shocks The World With Major Announcement (Ep. 2416)
Well, the entire agency exists as a carefully constructed lie. And just like James Clapper and, you know, John Brennan and Leon Panetta, these are these are the holders of the great American lie. you know, closet of skeletons of state secrets. And you don't just hand that over to a random taxi cab driver because 51 percent of the population elected him because he does funny TikTok dances.
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Trump Shocks The World With Major Announcement (Ep. 2416)
What I think I'm trying to say here is, is if you remember the recalcitrance around sharing, sharing intelligence with President Trump, both in his 2016 presidential run and then again in the lead up to the 2024 election. I think what's happening at USAID is essentially an echo of that, which is that USAID is supposed to be untouchable.
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I mean, virtually, there's no USAID project on God's green earth that is honest.
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Does This Move Mean Justice Is Finally Coming? | Episode 29
Justice is definitely coming. Let me just assure the war room posse, justice is coming, and there's going to be accountability for this unprecedented Republican-ending welfare where the Biden Justice Department was politicized and weaponized. There's going to be accountability for a lot of these crimes. It takes time to build these crimes. Kash Patel is there. He's doing a hell of a good job.
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So is Dan Bongino. his deputy, justice is coming. So just because we don't see it publicly does not mean it's not happening. I know what's happening.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Dan, great to talk as always.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Oh, absolutely. I think what you're getting at is that there is a kind of difficult tango dance about the role of the money that the government takes from U.S. taxpayers to spend on influencing the course of events in foreign countries in order to make pro-U.S. interests promulgate there. And there's different schools of thought in terms of the morality or the efficacy of those efforts. But
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
The absolute drop dead, burn it down and salt the earth around it, you cannot do activity is when that goes back and directly affects U.S. domestic citizens. So the government is basically stealing their money in order to crush them with it. And this is what you saw in every single aspect of what USAID did.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
USAID funded media institutions and then had those media institutions write hit pieces on U.S. citizens. USAID funded social media terms of service pressure groups in order to pressure the tech companies or pressure governments to pass laws on the US tech companies in order to censor the people who paid USAID to do that. USAID funds the unions and those unions turn around and do protest movements
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and organized violence, effectively, against U.S. citizen elected governments in the form of Trump. Time and time again, USAID is supposed to support energy development projects around the world. They turn around, they fund Burisma, while that's basically the foreign policy pet project of the first family.
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Everywhere you look with what USAID does, they fund the drug networks that then get imported and you end up with Kensington, Philadelphia. They fund the paramilitary groups that end up turning around and having you know, effectively, you know, being at war with our own military.
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I mean, you had a funny situation where a CIA-backed paramilitary in Syria was at war with a Pentagon-funded paramilitary in Syria. And, you know, USAID has this get out of OFAC free card where they can effectively fund terrorists as long as their contractors do it, which is why I always say, when it's too dirty for the CIA, you give it to USAID.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Plausible deniability. That has been USAID's role from the day it was born. And the fact is, as you look at these grant descriptions, they will be one-line grant descriptions for outlays of $50 million. And there's no way to get beyond that.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
USAID blocks even its Senate Foreign Relations Committee Oversight Committee members, sitting senators, from accessing the grant details and the troves of classified documents that USAID sits on because It is – when I said when it's too dirty for the CIA to give it to USAID, that is not a joke. That's not an understatement. That's not hyperbole.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
USAID can do covert action without requiring the same presidential finding that's required of the CIA. So when the CIA wants to do a dirty deed, a covert action abroad, but they don't think the president will approve, or even worse, it directly targets the president's international allies or even the president himself by proxy –
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
they can simply walk over to USAID and have a USAID network carry out the logistics under the banner of humanitarian aid.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
So if they want to fund ISIS, if a rogue cell at CIA wants to support ISIS groups and the President of the United States wants to eradicate ISIS, then they can have USAID do humanitarian support in the region where they'll pay for the housing, they'll pay for the food, they'll pay for the munitions flows. and then it's not a CI covert action.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
It's just discreet democracy promotion that, oh, just so happens to go wrong being done by USAID. I posted an example of this from the first decade of USAID's existence. This was under sworn testimony at the Senate Foreign Relations Committee in 1972.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
When we were at war in Vietnam and Laos in 1967, the CIA's mercenary army, backed by this commander Vinh Pao, it was USAID who paid Vinh Pao to purchase two CIA aircraft from Air America and Continental Air Services, which are two CIA proprietary airlines. This is all public and declassified aircraft.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
nominally in order to help economic development in the region that the CIA-backed paramilitary effective terrorist group was operating. They knew that that was where drugs were being shipped out of the Golden Triangle. So basically, USAID bought them the airplanes to be able to retail the opium from the Golden Triangle to Vietnam in order to sell them in order to fund their own mercenary army.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
USAID has been doing this since the day it was born.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
I definitely think that's part of it. There is another aspect of it that I think is parallel and on par with how sinister that aspect of it, which is that the cynical exploitation of race, gender, and sexual orientation and religious cleavages within countries in order to selectively rig its internal politics.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
So the fact is, for example, it's not just the Democrats, the Republican wing of USAID and the National Endowment for Democracy also fund, for example, transgender dance festivals and these sort of woke, identitarian events
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
in countries where those demographic groups represent an anti-government force where we're trying to take down that government or represent a pro-democracy force when we are, a pro-government force when we're trying to stabilize that government against insurgents.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
So for example, a lot of these more radical extreme elements that will come from sometimes folks within the country's transgender community or folks within its radical Islamic either extremist or terrorist cleavage or some religious extremists or racial identitarian movements are deliberately paid for, not necessarily out of a sort of woke ideology, but out of the cold, calculating,
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
understanding that when they do the baseline assessment or the strategic assessment for the region, they say, who's against this government and who's for it? And they see, hey, the transgenders don't like the Russian government. That's how USAID ends up sponsoring places like Pussy Riot. And you get Republican support for Pussy Riot.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
They would not want that sort of thing necessarily in their own neighborhood, but it's useful to export and pump up and capacity build abroad.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Jim's looking at me, Mike. He's talking about the band. In order to destabilize Russia from 2010 to 2012, it was a very high-profile diplomatic incident because they were organizing violent street protests sort of in the name of radical feminism and LGBT causes.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Look at what just happened here in America, where there was this big Democrat cause for decades about Hispanics and how Hispanics can be sort of localized as anti-Republican, anti-Trump force. And then you see the Cuban population turn out in huge numbers for Trump in 2016, 2020, 2024. What does the Democrat coalition go around doing?
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
They say, well, actually, we shouldn't really include Cubans as part of, you know, they're not useful. That sub-demographic is not useful. So that segmentation strategically is a big part of this.
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Okay, I encourage everyone to go to DuckDuckGo, Google, Bing, whatever. Go to the CIA World Factbook right now. Type in any country in the world, and what you will see is a breakdown exactly like that. Why does the CIA keep such detailed statistics of race, gender, sexual orientation, and racial denomination cleavages in every country on Earth?
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Sunday Special with Mike Benz, Rep. Andy Harris, Rep. Tim Burchett and Michael Knowles
Because that goes into the baseline assessment or the strategic assessment in terms of what assets to build up in the country or what assets or what chess pieces to take down in the country in order to achieve a particular operational goal.
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And so that sort of religious cleavage point, that's playing out in Ukraine right now, where you have the State Department basically trying to pressure Ukraine and even USAID sponsoring media organizations to pressure the Ukrainian government to box out the Russian Orthodox Church. and various things like that.
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But this is basically civil war planning that we do in foreign countries, come home to roost in our own.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Thanks, Dan. Great to talk to you.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
Well, they blurred the eyeballs out. This is actually the – this comes from the source footage. The FBI released –
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
they claim to have about 39 000 video files of the january 6 pipe bomber just in in 2021 they released these in two tranches one in march 2021 another in september 2021 then they did not update the fbi website with pipe bomber information for the rest of the biden presidency so the last thing on the fbi file that's publicly available uh until just this week was
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
september 2021 and they released two separate pieces of camera footage from the dnc site where the pipe bomb was uh planted one of the two pipe bombs now when i was going through this all the different footage and breaking it down in video examination software and trying to get a beat on this right out the gate, it was very evident that this footage had been tampered with.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
It's been published for some time now. The frame rate was reduced. to about 1.2 frames per second, whereas the average 7-Eleven has 30 frames per second. High-end ones have 60 frames per second. It's worth noting that Watergate happened because of a break-in to the DNC headquarters.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So you would think that the place that was the victim of Watergate would have security cameras that were at least on par with the average 7-Eleven. But what I posted this week
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
is is something that's really bothered me for a long time which is that the in all of the pieces of footage that were released by the fbi where the pipe bomber is in view and you should have a clear view of the pipe bomber's face something very strange happens to the footage which is that a large horizontal blur bar is applied directly over the eyes and glasses area of the pipe bomber which prohibits the ability to zoom in and see the person's eyes
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
And this is particularly troubling because eyeball identification is at the heart of our biometric ID system. So, for example, David Petraeus was doing the counterinsurgency doctrine in Afghanistan. In Iraq, one of the things they did is they had Marines go around and take pictures of everyone's eyeballs.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
That way, if they participated in protest activity or they were seen in meetings from photos, you could quickly ID the person. Every person with a criminal record, every person who's a military serviceman has their IDs in a database. And if you use a clear view or any sort of facial ID recognition system, if you have their eyes, you have their ID. And so.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
What happens to the footage that the FBI released is that this blur bar and you can see this from heat map, just heat distortion maps. You can see this just visually, even when you just zoom in, that the eyes and only the eyes get blurred at the exact frames when you should be able to identify the pipe bomber. So, for example, the one that I released this week and I have another one.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
that I'll be posting this week as well, is there's a camera that's only 20 feet away from the pipe bomber. As he looks back, it makes direct eye contact with that camera. 20 feet away. That is just a three-point shot, which means a simple zoom would be able to go to the person's eyes. That person was wearing transparent glasses.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
and you can see this because just 10 minutes before that in a separate video camera shot you can actually see the person putting on glasses you can even see the glint of the glasses uh off of this off of the street lamp which means and that was at a camera that was 65 feet away so at 20 feet away you should be able to zoom in and see the ice but there are four frames in that shot because the frame rate was so reduced
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
So you are not able to ID them. And they did the same thing on the second DNC shot when the person is walking directly towards the camera. Everything else becomes clear about the person, their clothing, the bag they're wearing, but the eyes get blurred in this hard... extremely visible in your face, blocking out of the eyeballs.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
And again, if this person was a military serviceman or this person had a criminal record, which is either one of those would land any civilian with facial ID, the ability to ID this person. So there's only two real possibilities here. None of them are good for the FBI. One of them is that person was
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
a federal agent or informant or asset directly and they don't want this person id because it would turn the so-called insurrection into a feds erection in one fail swoop remember the the breach of the capitol started at 12 49 p.m on january 6 2017. the pipe bomb was found on at 12 48 p.m just one minute before so it was concurrent the breach the the initial breach of the penn walkway entrance
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
with the actual breach itself. This is why Stephen Sun, the Capitol Police chief who was then fired the next day, said that he believed that the pipe bombs were a deliberate diversion rather than intended to detonate because they decimated the actual Capitol Police presence who were migrating the horses over to the pipe bomb as the breach ensued. The only other option is that this person was a
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
effectively a patsy was not actually a federal informant or agent, but that person was working with federal agents or informants in the sense that they had foreknowledge of it and don't want it ID'd because once you ID the suspect, the criminal process will implicate the network.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
And remember, just three months before January 6th, the FBI did this exact thing with dud pipe bombs in the Whitmer Fednapping affair. They were indicted on possession of weapons of mass destruction.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
That's the technical term for a pipe bomb because the FBI, under Stephen D'Antuono, the exact FBI special agent in charge of the Detroit office who ran that operation was migrated over ahead of January 6th And the FBI had advanced foreknowledge of the pipe bombs and set them up, knew they were taught them how to make dud devices in field training exercises. So it's the exact same players.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
It's the same playbook. And they don't want this person ID'd because it will implicate themselves. And therefore, the entire Fed's erection narrative gets validated in one fell sweep.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
That's exactly right. And then you remember there was this special operation that was launched on January 3rd with Jeffrey Rosen at the AG and Quantico people, and they were all deployed. If you remember that crazy – I think it was Newsweek article about all the secret undercovers that were placed around the Capitol with shoot-to-kill instructions in case something popped off.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
If you remember, that whole operation was launched in secret, wasn't disclosed for months afterwards. because of a suspicion that there may be weapons of mass destruction that were placed around the Capitol. Well, what is the technical term for that in Justice Department parlance? That is a pipe bomb. So it's very – and you had – the whole D.C. Fusion Center had told hospitals in the D.C.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
area just ahead of January 6th that they should, quote, stock up on extra blood supplies because of a potential mass casualty event that happened in tandem with the allegations that – with the January 3rd Jeffrey Rosen operation, with the weapons of mass destruction. It's – the fact is, is the FBI lied publicly. from Jump Street on this whole thing because they needed to.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
They told people when this first happened that they should look at their friends and family and examine their gait. Examine the way they walk. When you're at the water cooler at work, examine if the person walks, your friends and family walk in a way similar to the pipe bomber. Meanwhile, they're blurring out the eyeballs in the footage they released so that you can't even see the person's eyes.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
The whole thing was so sloppy. And the only reason that it has been able to persist is because they have had exclusive dominion over the Justice Department and the FBI. And frankly, I think this needs to go higher than Kash Patel at this point because –
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
The fact is that they will have deleted the evidence, just like all 22 video cameras with Oklahoma City were deleted as soon as Jesse Trenadue filed his lawsuit there, just as the video camera footage for Jeffrey Epstein was deleted and the visitor logs were torn out of the pages so that there could be no evidence of that. The FBI has already nuked the direct evidence on this.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
What's going to be necessary now is for Pam Bondi's Justice Department to get the names of every single FBI agent who was involved in the pipe bomber investigation and put them under deposition, put them under subpoena, put them under penalty of purge. Every person who was involved in the investigation, that way the FBI agents involved in the case
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
can be thrown in jail if they do not cooperate with the discovery of the pipe bomber's identity.
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Dan Bongino Sunday Special - Jan. 6th pipe bomb scandal
To my recollection, it's four years old.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
All right.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Great to have you here, man.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
You know, I worked with Doc O'Connor when I worked for Joe Biden. I traveled with him. Yeah. don't have a lot of confidence in his truth telling. Why? Well, first of all, they hid what Joe Biden was as he was getting ready to be president in 2020. Doc O'Connor was his doc all through the White House years.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
So, you know, I was on Fox News in September of 2020 saying Joe Biden doesn't have the physical capacity to be the president. He doesn't have the mental capacity. He's slowing down. You could see that.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
So then they put together this fake pandemic. They hit him in the basement. They put together a fake election. They stole the election, in my opinion. I've written books on it. You know that. And so then he gets into the presidency. And they so here's here's something that I know from right as soon as he got into the White House.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
every president gets a chance to get in front of the Super Bowl audience to do a Super Bowl interview. So in 2021, Joe Biden's fresh into the White House. He gets on CBS to do an interview with Norah O'Donnell. She promotes it. We're going to do a 20-minute interview with Joe Biden. It was only 12 minutes long. So they already had to cover for him. That's CBS covering for him.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
So they knew, the media knew, the White House doctors knew. I personally think, you know, personally for my stance on where Joe Biden is with his health, I hope for the best possible outcome for him. Of course. I think he should recover and then confess his crimes.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
That's right. And so I went back and I looked at the transcript of the interview, her interview. I didn't listen to the audio. I looked at the transcript because I'm a transcript guy. I did that for Joe. So the transcript had some really interesting revelations to me.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
That Joe Biden, to me right now, this story that Axelrod is promoting, this health, we'll call it a health scare, is a cover story for the cover story. Yes. Right? Her interview was a cover story. I mean, he starts the interview off and he says, I'm just here to write a report. So he's a special counsel. That's all a special counsel does.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
They just write a report and turn it over to Merrick Garland, who makes a decision whether or not to prosecute anything they see in there.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Yeah.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
No, he goes, we're here to write a report. That's his sort of opening introductory statement.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
We're interviewing you here to write a report.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Right. Okay. Yeah, that's what I read in the transcript. Okay, yeah. So keep it on with the transcript. Transcripts, when you do an interview for a transcript, usually there's about one minute of speaking at normal pace to a page of transcription. Yes. Joe Biden was speaking at a normal pace. He wasn't wandering. He wasn't lost. It pretty much tracked with what how he spoke.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
And he's in from reading the transcript. I could see things in there where he was asked a question and he would come right back with a direct answer. Like he wasn't fumbling for words.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
The little portion that you played, that audio portion, to me was kind of like one of those mafia dons who all of a sudden pretends when he's in court that he's like fumbling and he's old and he can't really be trying to get the jury to be sympathetic. That's what I took that as. Yes. And they cut that little piece out to make that audio what everybody heard.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Yeah, and there's more in there. So one of the things that they asked him that was really interesting to me was they asked him about, there's this classification you have on all these files, four eyes only. It's eyes only. That's not something that they needed to find out about. It doesn't relate directly to their crime they were investigating.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
They were investigating whether it was he had chopped secret clearance documents Files or classified files. But they had a whole bunch of files that were eyes only. So they asked him, what's this mean? And he goes, oh, those are the files that I have from my group that we discuss amongst ourselves to keep away from Biden and his group. That would be Axelrod.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
That's why Axelrod is coming out and saying this stuff. So in other words, Joe Biden and his group, his inner circle, were doing stuff within the White House, eyes only, they didn't want Obama to know about. Oh, to keep from Obama, okay. To keep from Obama and his guys. Yeah. Because they had stuff they had to do.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Right, but it's in his files, and they're all of a sudden looking at his files, and there's this eyes only. What is this stuff? Why has he got eyes only? And it was a really interesting conversation. comment from him. And he's like, yeah, that's just us talking amongst ourselves because we have stuff that we talk amongst ourselves that we have to argue against Joe Biden.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
I mean, argue against Obama. Yes.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
No.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
no i mean i mean this is this is hallmark biden world the sympathetic stuff playing for the sympathies i mean that's what was in that clip right yeah he gets he gets pushed a little bit and um and i think they were asking him about the biden penn center yep they were specifically asking about that so then he goes into this oh yeah beau and i and he gets into this sort of sympathy mode that's what his operation's been all along so going back 50 years
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Right, right. So that's where we are. So there was a couple other things that came through this transcript that I read. One was he went into very great detail about a case that he worked on when he was first a lawyer back in Wilmington in the early 60s, like 66 or 67. Seven, something like that. He was elected to the Senate in 1972. So it was around 68, maybe. Yeah. He was a lawyer.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
And he talked about this in, like, amazing detail. And the thing is, all through the interview he has, they ask him, what about these files? I don't know about that. My staff knows about that. Did you have anything to do with this? No, I didn't have anything. The staff just did it. So he always put everything on his staff. But this chunk of information comes from a time before he ever had staff.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
And he nailed it. I mean, the the details that he had on the inch. So this basically the story is he was a lawyer for a company that was defending DuPont in an industrial accident. The guy who was injured got so badly injured. Joe Biden felt guilty, walked across the street, became a public defender. And that's when his whole life shifted into this do good guy.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Well, he goes into the details of this industrial accident. And I was reading going like, because he's spoken about this in the past that I've heard in speeches. And I was like, this guy is digging up details from his past with no problem.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
I was a good guy. Yeah. I was really helping. So that's typical Biden. The other thing he gets into was there was a photo of, I think there was a photo they were looking at of him with a bow and arrow. And he talks about this trip he took to Mongolia. And I was on that trip with him. And I remember the trip. Well, he started going into details about the trip that I, it jogged my memory.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
So he really had a control of the facts about, both from long ago and from his vice presidency as he's sitting down. The interviews took place on October 8th and 9th, 2023. So at that point, he thinks he's going to be president in a year, right? He thinks, I just got to get through this interview.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Right. So there was one more really significant thing that I saw in this transcript. He talks about this big letter that he wrote to Obama on Thanksgiving night, 2009. He sits down and handwrites this letter. And there was some usage of classified documents as he's compiling this letter. Well, one of the things that he wrote in the letter, and they asked him, and he said this.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
They didn't ask him to talk about the classified stuff that he had in the letter. He exposed the classified stuff that he had in the letter. He said, yeah, I was writing to Obama because I was the—
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
foreign policy expert and obama was new and he needed me to sort of back him up he said we were talking about afghanistan and i asked i i told him we have to ask questions about what do we do when we kill osama bin laden in pakistan and what do we do when um The Taliban takes over, and how are we going to continue to train?
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
He was talking about McChrystal because he was over there with General Stanley McChrystal. This is 2009 that he's writing this. They didn't know officially that Osama bin Laden was in Pakistan. They officially didn't know. But in this thing, he writes, Osama bin Laden, what do we do when we kill Osama bin Laden in Pakistan? Mm-hmm. It wasn't Iran. He didn't use Iran. He specifically used Pakistan.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
And it jumped out at me because in 2005, I went to Pakistan with Cheney and we took a helo trip right over Abbottabad.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Where Osama bin Laden was killed. Yes. And so I think what happened was the U.S. had Osama bin Laden on ice stashed in Abbottabad. and and cheney and and bush had set it up with the pakistanis and then biden took it over i have some documents that i can show you that's crazy
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
So here's – this is why it jumped out at me. So I did this trip with him. This is a – One of the pieces from the press thing. So that's the Hilo tour that we took with Cheney. And we fly from an airport, Chalakala Airport, up into this area where the USAID is funding earthquake relief. Uh-huh. Well, along the way is Abbottabad. It's right about there. You can see it.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
So he flew right over the top of Abbottabad. Dick Cheney and press. The press on the trip was ABC, Terry Moran, who just got manhandled by Trump in the White House. Yeah. The AP, Fox News, James Rosen was on the trip, and Dana Bash was on the trip with...
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
cnn yes in this transcript that biden's talking about so this is 2009 he's writing this letter and in 2023 he's telling them about this transcript he talks about panetta Leon Panetta was the guy who had to sort of—he's conversing. He's going back and forth with Panetta at this time. Panetta was in charge of the CIA. Panetta's chief of staff was Dana Bash's ex-husband.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Jeremy Bash. Yes. So in 2005, when Dana Bash is on this trip, she's flying over Abbottabad. She lands in this area, and she goes on an interview with Cheney. And she goes— We hear that Osama bin Laden is in other parts of Afghanistan. Do you know where he is? And Cheney goes, Dana, I can't answer your question. And this is in a White House transcript that I did that was on that trip.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
And he goes, Dana, I can't answer your question. And she goes, do you know where he is? He's like, no, I can't answer your question. I can neither confirm nor deny. But at the time, her husband... who then becomes chief of staff of the CIA. Yes. I think gave her information. You're going to go to Abbottabad, and this is why you're going there, because they have Osama bin Laden on ice.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
I've looked into CIA websites.
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
CIA websites. Yeah. And they have, I've taken screenshots. I put it on my sub stack. Screenshots of CIA surveillance photos of Abbottabad from 2004 and 2005. So this trip is December 2005. Can you imagine?
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Are Kash and Bongino About To Blow The Lid Off FBI Corruption? | Episode 46
Right.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Well, I learned that my friends in the Justice Department, like Attorney General Pam Bondi and her Chief of Staff, Chad Mizell, and the Deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanch, and his top deputy, Emil Bove, and great... People like Gail Slater and Harmeet Dhillon and Kash Patel and Dan Bongino, Stanley Woodward.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
President Trump has a rock solid team at the Justice Department, and they are doing really good work. And even if we don't see flashy headlines on good work, it's definitely happening.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Go ahead. No, I was going to say it's I know people get anxious when you don't see screaming headlines, but I promise that there are good people doing great work.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
No, because I've been in regular contact with these people since before the inauguration. I know what's going on. Got it. Look, I've worked in the Justice Department several times. I've worked in the White House. I've worked in the House. I've worked in the Senate. I know how government works. otherwise you have acting people there.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
And President Trump has already done big things with his executive orders at the Justice Department and Pam Bondi and Emil Bove and Todd Blanch and the others have done big things already at the Justice Department. Just one example, the Southern District of New York is this island in the justice system where they think that they report to nobody. Under our constitution, federal prosecutors
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
report to the deputy attorney general who reports to the attorney general who reports to the president of the United States who's elected by all Americans. But you have many of these federal prosecutors around the country and federal agents, particularly in the FBI, who don't think they report to anyone. And that has very much changed in the Southern District of New York.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
They call it the Sovereign District of New York because they think that they're They don't report to anyone. Well, Emil Bove went in and gave them an attitude adjustment on about day one. And remember Danielle Sassoon? You heard her name for about three minutes. She made her headlines. No one hears about Danielle Sassoon anymore because she's not working for the Trump administration.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Possibly. And I would say this, that there has to be systemic changes to the Justice Department, which is happening. They're cutting a lot of people out of the Justice Department. They're firing people. They're reassigning people. They're making the structural changes. So we're not playing whack-a-mole. going forward or putting a Band-Aid over a gaping wound.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
And so they're actually going in and fixing the real systemic problems at Maine Justice and at the various litigating divisions and also at the FBI. Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are doing a hell of a good job.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
You have to get rid of the deep state actors. If you don't get rid of the deep state actors, everything that they try to do is going to be whack-a-mole or a Band-Aid on a gaping wound. You have to get rid of the cancer in the body first, right? And that's what they're doing. This is chemotherapy. This is radiation. And this is so much more important than any one indictment or any one arrest.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
When you're making systemic changes, you're shocking the system at the justices. including the FBI so you can get that deep state beast tamed, right? You don't see a lot of people running to the press anymore because they're, I think Emil Bovey, if you just look, he's a friend of mine, but if you just look at the guy, he looks like a political serial killer. So-
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
So I think Emil has done a very good job of reminding these Justice Department officials that they work for the Deputy Attorney General, who works for the Attorney General, who works for the President, who's elected by all Americans.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
I'm not familiar with that particular move, but I fully trust Kash Patel and Dan Bongino. They're about as far away from deep state puppets as you can get. Remember when President Trump pick cash Patel, everyone said he was dead on arrival. And then the Article three project had about what, 250,000 phone calls into their home state senators and gave these senators an attitude adjustment. Yeah.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
In about three days, they went from dead on arrival to when can he start? So just look, if Give these guys the room they need to get the job done. Again, they are making systemic changes. Yes. This is something that no Republican has done ever, and this is something that should have been done decades ago, right? Yeah, yeah.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Once you get the systems in place, once you build the car or rebuild the car, then you can drive the car.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
No. And if there's any, if there's any team that can do this, it's the team at the justice department. Now president Trump's team now with Pam and Todd and Chad and Emil and Stan and you know, so many good people over there, Harmeet, uh, Gail, Omid, there are so many good people in the Justice Department right now. And these are like, these are bold, serious reformers. I know all of them.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
They're my friends. I'm not, I wouldn't vouch for them if I didn't think that they would do the job. Like you said, Vince, I'm not exactly a quiet person. And frankly, I'm the most harsh with my criticism of people on our side because I have higher expectations for conservatives than I do. or Marxist. I want Marxist to rot in hell. I want conservatives to succeed.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Well, the best thing that you hear about voter ID is that somehow it's discrimination against black people. Like black people don't have the wherewithal to get a driver's license or a government ID like the rest of Americans. We just need white liberals to save them.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Hey, go find a black friend liberals and take them to the driver's license place and then help them get a driver's license because they don't have the wherewithal to get it according to these Democrats. I mean, what a racist... just bad faith argument they're making. It's clear what they want. They want illegal immigrants that they're mass importing into this country, 15 million of them.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
They want them to register to vote and vote Democrat, right? That's the whole plan. This is why they oppose voter ID. This is why they oppose the SAVE Act. I would say... to these judges, these activist judges, stay in your lane. Your job is to decide cases and controversies of the parties before your court with redressable claims. Nothing more, nothing less. You have a really important job.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
It's a crucial job, but it's a modest job. That's your Article III standing. That's your Article III power. When these judges take off their judicial robes, and they do one of two things. They either put on their capes. They think they're superheroes, these narcissists who get to fly around and save everyone. Yeah. Even some of these Republican justices do this from time to time.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Maybe maybe even my old boss does this from time to time. You know, superhero Neil Gorsuch or General Gorsuch does it from time to time. Not not as much as the Democrats, but, you know, General Gorsuch does it from time to time, too. I mean, he he plays a wonderful superhero like last Good Friday. He did that. But I would also say judges wear robes, not capes.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
And if judges take off their judicial robes and climb into the political arena and throw political punches, expect to receive a political knockout from the.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
They could if they wanted to. And this is at the doorstep of the Chief Justice, John Roberts, or Commanding General John Roberts, as we saw last Friday. Because we had seven, as you just mentioned, Vince, on Friday, we had seven Supreme Court justices who ran in and joined the President of the United States, I think, for the first time in American history. You cannot enjoin the President.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
You can enjoin lower officials.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
officers you cannot join the president they enjoined the president of the united states and told him that he cannot continue with an ongoing military operation to do to deport the worst terrorists of the western hemisphere yeah apparently the president's not the commander-in-chief anymore he has to get permission from these seven generals on the supreme court and they did this before the district court ruled before the fifth circuit
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
before the Solicitor General submitted the government's position on this. I mean, again, these are not judges in robes. These are narcissist superheroes wearing capes.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Well, I mean, I think they're part of the problem as we just saw on Good Friday. And so who needs to bring them to heel? Who needs to bring the whole federal judiciary to heel is Congress. Congress. They need to cut the spending. They need to have oversight hearings. I was the chief counsel for nominations on the Senate Judiciary Committee. I had the oversight portfolio for the federal judiciary.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Judges don't think they're subject to oversight, so haul their asses in for oversight just to prove that you have that power, Congress. Cut their funding, cut their jurisdiction, make their lives living hell until they get back in their life.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
you know i have a crazy idea trump should threaten to court pack until they start behaving like just 100 i actually i think that's a great idea events what do we have nine now and we have some of them who are narcissistic looney tunes who think they can they can join the president so it sounds like we need six more yeah that fdr did it that was the whole idea fdr threatened to pack the court
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
Fifteen justices. So we'll have eight justices who will follow the Constitution and then seven narcissistic looney tunes who think they're going to go save rapists and murderers in El Salvador. So they can moonlight as the commanding generals and the ACLU lawyers to go save MS-13 gangbangers. Maybe those seven can get the MS-13 tattoos on their knuckles for solidarity.
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JUSTICE! FBI Arrests Corrupt Judge - w/ Guest Mike Davis | Episode 30
But for the other eight, so that after we pack the court, the eight who are going to follow the Constitution, we can actually get things done.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They use philanthropic foundations to funnel money and assistance in. They work through the unions and the trade labor associations, which are civil society organizations that you can consider in the NGO fold. They work through all of these Charities, foundations, nonprofits, the NGO sphere in order to run this election rigging in 1948. So 12 days later, George Kennan writes a memo from the U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
State Department called the Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare. Everyone can look this up online. And he lays out how this is the model blueprint for the American power in the 20th century and that we need to overcome the basic distinction between peace and war that Americans have long believed there was.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
because the average American does not understand the intricacies of international relations. And if we don't seize this initiative to build an organized political warfare apparatus through this State Department intelligence function, then we will lose the American century. We'll lose the 20th century to the Bolsheviks or to the British who each have their own department of dirty tricks.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so it goes on to say that this is a State Department function. Ideally, it would be within a State Department Bureau of Political Warfare. So I think what the director of political warfare is what they want to call this until they decided.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And in the memo, he says, but there are problems with this, which is that because the State Department provides a public audit of its funds, we would not be able to conceal these funds in the State Department budget. So it might be ideal to have an outside intelligence agency to take on this function.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And that's why two months later, the CIA was given the plausible deniability doctrine and delegated these powers publicly. by that very author, George Kennan. But at the back of this memo are fascinating exhibits of contemplated ways to structure recommendations and proposals for structuring this CIA intelligence work through NGOs.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And it includes creating, for example, voluntary councils of an outside organization that would nominally look to the public like it was a grassroots organization that is helmed by fine upstanding members of the American establishment or people in great repute. He actually uses the line, members of the American business community of the caliber of Alan Dulles.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Yeah. NGOs are the stem cell of the government's central nervous system. They are this highly flexible tool, just like a stem cell can transform into any of the 220 different cell types in the human body, and they self-renew, and they can generate all these new neurons. That is really you can't disentangle or really separate the government from the non-governmental organizations.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Of course, Alan Dulles was the CIA chief. A true criminal. Right. And at the time, his brother was running the State Department. And it goes on to say that it would look to the world like it's an NGO. Right. but it would receive funding from the CIA, it would receive guidance from the CIA, and it would constantly coordinate. And it was at that very year that the term NGO really emerged.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You can check out these protests online. They're hilarious. It's people protesting in the streets so that they are not allowed to know foreign funding of their own societies. Put the blindfolders on me. I'm not allowed to know whether that is funded by a foreign government. How much is funding?
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
became a codified term when the term non-governmental organization was entered into the charter of the UN Declaration on Human Rights in 1948, where the Economic and Social Council was directed to coordinate everything it did with NGOs. And that's really the sort of etymology of that term in terms of its explosions when the UN codified that term.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And that's what essentially set off this NGO arms race, this proliferation of cells within American statecraft, the American business community, within the American intelligence community, the national security community, to each create their own cellular circuitry in order to advance their interests. And I can get sort of deeper into that story.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
If you'd like, I can just take it from history there to present. But I'd feel remiss if I didn't also note that there's a government and there's a business side of it. And the thing that I think a lot of people are missing in this story and the attempt to take on the rogue elements of the NGOplex is that Last time we talked, it was right after USAID had announced its closure.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And I took what a lot of people, I think, thought was a somber tone on that, that I was celebrating its shutdown, but I was braced. for impact about the ramifications of this and how it might play out. And I think I use the term that this is necessary to do this open heart surgery. We also have to ensure that the patient doesn't die on the operating table.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Just because it's the right diagnosis doesn't mean you can set it and forget it. If you don't midwife the process diligently, you could kill the entire American empire. And I bring up that point here because it's not just American intelligence and American statecraft and, you know, the State Department, the DOD, the CIA.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It's also virtually every single major international corporation that we consider to be American that is wrapped up in this NGO relationship. Plex, and I can go through examples of how that manifests, but I can't think of a single industry that's domiciled in America that people think of as great American companies.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
that is not deeply connected to the NGO Plex, and in some respects, dependent on the NGO Plex to secure their markets, to secure their profitability, to secure their revenues, to secure their interests. And while we are taking on the NGO Plex, There's also this, and now they're going to make their voices heard through lobbying, through pressuring Congress. And this is what we're seeing.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Congress is now looking like they're not going to codify these doge cuts. We saw 26, I think, Republican members of Congress who are saying they're not going to approve the doge cuts around USAID.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But a lot of this is, I think, to find the solution that is politically possible, you have to understand, I guess, how the whole ecosystem works in order to provide, offer solutions that might have political viability, if that makes sense. Of course it does.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
This started in its origin really with the creation of the US income tax in 1913. And then in 1917, contributions to charitable organizations, to 501 , as we now know it, became tax deductible from this new income tax.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Yeah. Well, this sort of gets down to the stem cell concept and what type of NGO cell type you're talking about. I'll give you a couple examples. So there are these para-governmental ones, like take, for example, the Open Society Foundation. Started in 1979. According to George Soros, it was to provide basically a tax loophole for his kids. That was the idea that he said.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And then it quickly became wrapped up with the U.S. State Department operating in all of the major Cold War hubs, especially in Eastern Europe, and fomenting the turnover of those governments so that they would break away from the Soviet Union and join the U.S. and Hungary, Romania, Poland, the whole litany.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And meanwhile, he was running the quantum fund and his George Soros management fund that was speculating on the foreign currencies of all these governments. So while he's working with the State Department and the Central Intelligence Agency and every U.S.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
embassy in every country in Eastern Europe and using this foundation, this network to influence the course of those events so that their governments would flip and He's using his hedge fund to speculate way before anyone knows that this movement is even being cultivated by the State Department and by his own nonprofits. He's speculating on the direction of those currencies.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So he's got insider trading knowledge. of everything that's going to happen in these countries while he's betting on it. It's sort of like the Nancy Pelosi stock tracker type of thing.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But by the 1990s, the Open Society Foundation had become such a powerful force in Washington that Bill Clinton's Deputy Secretary of State, I think it was Strobe Talbott, who said, we think of the Open Society Foundation as being a independent but allied partner country like the UK or France or Germany. And so we work closely with the Open Society Foundation.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
We consider them an ally, but we have to synchronize US foreign policy with the foreign policy set out by the Open Society Foundation. This is a quote, everyone can look this up. It's on my timeline on X. But so this is in the 1990s, this is 30 years ago at this point, US foreign policy is being synchronized with the George Soros policy recommendations.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And a lot of this is because it's not just that George Soros is the largest donor to the Democrat party. And Bill Clinton was obviously the Democrat president. George Soros provided two and a half times more than any other single individual to the Democrats in the last election cycle. But it's that- In this, just this last election cycle? Yeah, for Joe Biden, $100 million.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I think the second largest was 40.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so that gave rise to this money flow into private foundations and into nonprofit organizations that would come to play a large role in both World Wars, but in particular World War II, when humanitarian relief began to be a big part of
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Yeah. And although that may be the 2020 election, actually, that I'm referring to with those numbers, because I think those were the numbers in 2024 pre-election. So that may have been the 2020 election cycle, but I'm sure it's comparable for 2024. But- So the other part of it though, is that the Soros Foundation, so it drafts off of those policies. And I can give you some crazy examples of this.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
In Mongolia is a particularly perfect example of this, but we'll come back to that in a sec. So it's not just that Soros donates to the political candidates who's running for president, who's running for attorney general, or who's running for district attorney. It's that the Soros Foundation is also a co-investor and a co-sponsor in government initiatives and government projects.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
At USAID, you will frequently find, almost constantly find, that the Open Society Foundation is a donor into USAID initiatives, a donor into State Department initiatives. And this is what you frequently see when a government agency cannot get sufficient funds allocated from Congress.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They need to reach into the NGO sphere or into the private sector with multinational companies to effectively co-sponsor and provide the top-up capital to get the amount of money they need to run this operation. That's legal?
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Yeah, we've had it since the banana wars. We've had this relationship for... In Honduras. Yeah, Honduras, Guatemala. This has been a constant feature of American statecraft.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You know, almost since the beginning, which is that you have a government national security interest or a government commercial national interest, but then you also have the profiteers of that government action in the private sector, in the for-profit space, and also at the NGO layer to the extent that they're getting funded to do this work or it satisfies the wants of the sponsors of the NGOs.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So, I mean, this is what War is a Racket was about. If, you know, the Smedley Butler 1936, you know, book about how, you know, all of the major multinational corporations were on the take for World War I. All of them were on the take for, you know, when he's talking about how he toppled governments in South America for, you know, what was it? The City National Bank. Yeah.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And, you know, the petroleum companies and- United Fruit. United Fruit and- You know, but may I ask?
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Right. Well, it's a tectonic plate. It's it's something that shapes the fabric of what we consider democracy to be. And it's and I think arming. everyone in America with the knowledge of that topography can shape the kinds of democratic action that you propose. I'll give you an example. I mean, this was just yesterday.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
OSS and the predecessor to the CIA and military financial assistance to groups in afflicted by World War Two, and then in particular during the Marshall Plan after World War Two. NGOs played a key role in being a deniable front to run money to establish contacts and to provide direction and guidance to groups that the U.S. government did not want to be caught necessarily doing directly.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The nation of El Salvador announced a 30% tax on all foreign funding of domestic NGOs within El Salvador. This is a shot heard around the world. There've been many attempts by countries to contain the NGO plexus, Yeah, most famously in Hungary. Hungary, Slovakia, Serbia.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Every time they've been confronted with street protests and attempts to pressure the parliament using civil disobedience and the same sort of State Department, USAID, Soros Foundation type rent-a-riots. We saw that in Slovakia, Serbia. In Hungary, when they passed their NGO transparency bill, it was blocked by the EU.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The EU intervened and said that you cannot enforce this NGO transparency law because- What? Yes, yes.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Well, the idea was Russia had banned USAID, had banned the National Endowment for Democracy. I think in 2015, around then, this was after the Pussy Riot incident. You know, this is sort of a little bit pre-Navalny when the regime change was sort of from the right-wing nationalist side. We attempted a sort of left-wing, you know, left-wing Antifa-type coup in Russia through, you know,
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
the whole pussy riot and associated. Well, that wasn't like an organic artistic expression is what you're saying. I mean, you can look up online, the lead singers, uh, pictures with Tony Blinken and standing at the state department podium and, uh, all the national endowment for democracy literature on it. And the, uh, the USA, everything, just look up USA ID.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It was tactical. It was tactical feminism. And it always is with people. It always is. That's right.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But what happened was, is after all this stuff, Russia passed this, you know, basically banned, you know, foreign NGOs or at least banned a huge subset and required all these, you know, this transparency around it. And they banned USAID and NED.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so you can trace this back, really. You have all these charities. They were fronts, a lot of them, or at least in part. So it's a complicated relationship because you have government agencies and then you have outside high net worth individuals and families, dynastic American families like the Fords, the Rockefellers, the Carnegies, all starting these private philanthropies.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so when Hungary and Slovakia and Serbia and all these Eastern European countries who were in the post-Soviet orbit tried to pass transparency laws so that they could get a sense of how much of their own civil society mattered. cellular body was actually foreign assets of a foreign government. These were referred to as Russian laws, the Russian law, because Russia had done this.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But think about this. This is so insane. But think about that framing. And you can check out these protests online. They're hilarious. It's people protesting in the streets so that they are not allowed to know foreign funding of their own societies. I demand, I am not allowed to know, put the blindfolders on me.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I am not allowed to know whether the newspapers I read, whether the union I'm a part of, whether the lawyers association I'm a part of, whether the private company that pays my paycheck, whether the public health sector, my hospitals, whether that is funded by a foreign government and how much is funding. And, you know,
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The Russians are not complaining about that because the money is not coming largely. If the money was largely coming from the Russians, the EU and the U.S. State Department would be demanding this. We have this in the United States. It's called a FARA registration, the Foreign Agents Registration Act. We consider that to be a criminal violation where you can spend five years in jail if you
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
If you don't file a far registration, but if Hungary or Serbia or Slovakia tries to pass a foreign agent registrations act law there, we call that an attack on democracy. Why? Because it reveals it takes the mask off of the NGO plex and and and. reflects and shows to the people what it really is. It is the long arm of U.S. intelligence. It is the long arm of U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
statecraft and is the long arm of that corporate financial donor drafter class with all of their own secular private interests.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
This is where it gets really complicated. The idea behind this positive synergy between the corporate sponsored NGOs and the government sponsored NGOs and them all working together as a common blob was that. if we secure American business in a country, American contracts, American rights to minerals or American rights to mines, we're boxing out the Russians and the Chinese. I get it.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
That's not a crazy goal. It's not a crazy goal. And that, however, gives a license to some of the dirtiest stuff. And this total profiteering, especially because the multinational corporations have no... We're still living in Milton Friedman land. And this is something... Milton Friedman was a huge influence on me as a kid. Huge, huge, huge.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
All 10 hours of Free to Choose. I think he's an incredibly... I think he's a high integrity guy and he means what he says, but I think he fooled a lot of conservatives with this concept of maximizing total shareholder value, which is now codified effectively into our corporate law that you have a – It's the law. It's the law.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You have a statutory – you have a duty to maximize total shareholder value. Yeah. That does not mean value for Americans. When your markets are abroad and your labor is abroad and your factories are abroad, but you are getting billions of dollars from the U.S. government to advance your own private interests and you are toppling many... solid parts of the world order to do so.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
all playing a role in U.S. statecraft, all having international businesses that rely on foreign markets. And so they're highly dependent on the State Department clearing the way for them, negotiating deals for them, acquiring territory, creating export markets, maintaining laws in foreign countries that maximize profitability, securing mining rights, securing trade routes.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You're overthrowing governments, you're bribing media, you're controlling organized crime groups and conflict zones and all narco trafficking, all of the dirty work that goes into making the sausage in a lot of these countries. It's not trickling down per Ronald Reagan to the people that live there. These companies all got extremely rich while the Heartland turned into the Rust Belt. That's right.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so to me, it's no surprise when you see that John Bolton on Piers Morgan held up his USAID hand grenade when he was the head of USAID policy and budget under Ronald Reagan. He showed this a few months ago on Piers Morgan, that his parting gift from USAID after he left running the policy and budget there, John Bolton, humanitarian assistance guy, was a USAID hand grenade.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So that was the parting gift they gave him, a golden hand grenade with his name engraved in it.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I think the idea was that, you know, they are hard charging about it, I think. But, you know, what it represents to me is this development defense mechanism. You know, they call it the three D's, the diplomacy, defense, development, the idea that USAID is absolutely critical to US military operations. It's absolutely critical to US diplomatic operations.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It's absolutely critical to US intelligence operations, which supports the diplomacy and defense. And so while you're masquerading as this humanitarian NGO sponsor, you're the embodiment of the hand grenade. And that to me, that's a Reaganite philosophy that we're fighting the ghost of.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
This idea that you deserve a slot within this government apparatus, US government apparatus, when you are not representing the interests of the United States. Or at least there are no conditions on it. There's no bounds on it other than you need to be in the good graces of that government. For example, the U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Embassy in Brasilia did nothing to stop Brazil's attack on X or Brazil's seizure of assets. Exactly. That's exactly right. But this goes this goes back a really long time.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Right. Right. Well, the source example is really interesting. Can I share a few anecdotes? Gosh, I hope you will. So when I went into the WikiLeaks archive to, to look at all the state department cables that referenced George Soros or the open society foundation or any of its associated groups, the open society institution, the open society forum, um,
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I was surprised when I saw the communications in the State Department cables start in 1973, because the Open Society Foundation did not start until 1979. And when I looked at the State Department cables,
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They were all related to Soros Associates, which was the firm operated by George Soros' older brother, Paul Soros, who is, according to his New York Times obituary, one of the greatest titans of the shipping and port and infrastructure development industry. And Paul Soros is all over these State Department cables in tons of countries, Gabon, Iran. Remember, this is pre-1970.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
This is, you know- Pre-revolution, yeah. Yes, right. And so- So the State Department is working with Soros Associates, Paul Soros, in order to secure contracts for him, in order to secure favorable loan terms to foreign governments.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So there's this complex interplay. This is why I always call... So the story is really about, I don't really think of it as a government being different than an NGO, as being different than this corporate financial overclass.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And in order to intervene on the bidding process for port construction, for lucrative port deals, I think one in Gabon was, I think, I think it was like a $700 million to a billion dollar port project. You know, huge money for Gabon, a project in Gabon in early 1970s. And one of these cable, State Department cables is really interesting. It's the U.S. Embassy there.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And they are talking about how three senior executives from Brown and Root are going to be coming to Gabon that week and are looking to have arrangements made to meet with, I think, the president of the country and other influential leaders in government and in civil society.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The CIA was running a initiative to control the education space during the Cold War to stop the spread of communist sympathizing teachings and curricula. All of this was repurposed against right-wing populism when Trump won in 2016. I noticed. According to George Soros, the Open Society Foundation was to provide basically a tax loophole for his kids.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
and for the embassy to arrange everything from their travel to their hotel to introducing them to all the senior leaders in the country. And Brown and Root was working together with Soros and Associates on this port project, and they were bidding against other foreign infrastructure development companies from other countries.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And one of the cables basically suggests that, you know, that the embassy should relay back to Soros and Brown and Root the status of the bid going to them and anything favorable that can be done to nudge that contract going to Brown and Root and Soros. Okay. Now, what's interesting about this is a few things.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So this is the example of what you were talking about, which is we're doing this because we want to stop, there's a big fight over Africa with the Russians and with the Chinese all throughout the Cold War. A lot of Africa had sided with Russia and the Russian communism was seen as an egalitarian counterweight to a sort of racist United States. And there was a big diplomacy push there.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
When I use the term the blob, which is not my term, that was a term from Obama's deputy national security advisor, Ben Rhodes, to describe a force within Washington that was bigger than the White House that The Obama White House felt like it couldn't get its foreign policy done because this foreign policy establishment, this blob structure seemed to be more powerful than that.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So getting Brown and Root and Soros to control the infrastructure in the country and to get those contracts and to get the proceeds and remits was advancing U.S. interests under U.S. national security and U.S. national interests, which means there's a State Department interest in doing favors for Soros and Brown and Root.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Now, Brown and Root, which would later become Halliburton, or Brown and Root is, I guess, Halliburton, I guess, acquired Brown and Root. Yeah, Kellogg Brown and Root. Yes, right. Which, of course, is, you know, Dick Cheney was the, I think, CEO and president. And Brown and Root in the JFK files, it was very interesting. The ones that were declassified just a few months ago by Tulsi Gabbard
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
they have a whole section on the CIA's, all the CIA influence nodes over Brown and Root. And it was fascinating. I believe both Brown, senior and junior, held covert security clearances with the Central Intelligence Agency. There's a memo in these new unredacted JFK files. And it was a
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
CIA internal fact check, a crisis communications, how do we respond to this new piece in Ramparts Magazine called Brown and Roots CIA Dimensions. And, you know, so this is the Houston Republican CIA power base. This has been the big power base of the Republican Party for almost 100 years now. This oil, giant oil zone. Yes, exactly.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so Ramparts writes this piece and it accuses the CIA of running this vast network through the petroleum industry and through a web of NGOs and trade associations all over Houston. And it focuses on this Brown and Root network because Brown and Root also had something called the Brown Foundation, which was a corporate sponsored NGO. In this, they actually reveal that both Brown Sr.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
and Brown Jr. had covert security clearances for work with the Central Intelligence Agency. So while you have one of the world's premier infrastructure and development firms, which would later go on to work with Soros in Africa, and then would later spawn Vice President Dick Cheney
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But I think of the blob as having three levels to it. You have the guts of it inside the government, which is the State Department, the Defense Department, the intelligence community, and USAID. You can think of it, Hillary Clinton would call this the 3D model, diplomacy, defense, and development. And then the IC plays, the CIA, for example, plays a supporting role in those functions.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And Liz Cheney, who started off her career in USAID and comes from that same Halliburton, Brown and Root lineage, they've direct ties all over the CIA. And I guess I bring this up to say that in addition to that, you had this web of adjacent NGOs around statecraft there. So, for example, in that same files, again, the CIA is doing an internal fact check in this memo.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
where they say Ramparts has accused all of these people of being CIA. And it's a memo, I think, to one of the local directors saying, we've reviewed the files. Here's what's true and false about the Ramparts article. And in one of these, they describe something called the Vernon Fund, which was a private philanthropy.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Well, it was created by the Central Intelligence Agency to look to the public like a private foundation. And it was set up to fund the webs of teachers unions all throughout the world. They sponsored something called the World Confederation of Organizations of the Teaching Profession.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The CIA was running a initiative at the time to control the education space during the Cold War to stop the spread of communist teachings or communist sympathizing teachings and curricula especially in Cold War conflict zones all over Europe, all over Africa, all over Latin America.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so to do that, to control, to make sure that students and young people and every person in society who comes up through the education system is ideologically aligned against communism, they had to control the teachers' unions and what was being taught, what was being promoted. And
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I bring this up, again, I hate communism, but all this was repurposed against right-wing populism when Trump won in 2016. I noticed. Because instead of this same blob being threatened from its communist socialist left, it was being threatened from its populist nationalist right. But so the CIA, so in this memo, The CIA says, yeah, they're right about the Vernon Fund. Ramparts is right.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
That was ours. We set it up to look like a private philanthropy. We recruited the daughter of the Texas governor to bundle money to the World Confederation of Organizations of the Teaching Profession. in order to influence the National Education Association and create, I think it was like 140 different trade associations that they all work through.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Now, the National Education Association is the largest of the teaching union associations. And the World Confederation of Organizations of the Teaching Profession is still around today. It's called Education International. They rebranded the name. but it's the same organization.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And by the way, in these CIA files, they explicitly say the president of the World Confederation of Organizations of the Teaching Profession has a CIA covert clearance to do this work, the treasurer, the executive secretary. So the thing is funded by the CIA, by a NGO that was actually created by the CIA, the senior leadership of the trade association doing the work,
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
our CIA at every part of the layer, but how many people in Education International, how many teachers in that union you think know that story? How many fifth grade teachers, how many administrators at the union level, how many people in the schools know that?
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And and and they petitioned the German government to not allow AFD at any of the can't have a job if you vote for the party. Right, but this is exactly what our CIA has been calling for because AFD has been trying to revive the Nord Stream pipeline and trying to restore relations with Russia.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So from the national security side of this, there's a predicate to say, yeah, we're authorized to run this operation. But what do you do there? Now you've got the AFD, which is the most popular party in Germany right now in polling. It's got, I think, 26%. They... Doubled their votes in the recent election. But since then, polling shows that they are now the most popular party in Germany.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And these are all merged together as one cohesive way of advancing US foreign policy is what we call it. But it's really advancing the interests of, generally speaking, insiders or national champions like our large multinational corporations. But bring this back. So you have this government structure in the center of it. And then below that, you have the NGOs who are funded by the U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They were declared an extremist organization by their own national security state, which is effectively our national security state. We gave birth to Germany as a unified country in the 1990s and midwifed its entire intelligence apparatus. The center of U.S. intelligence in the Cold War was in Germany. And so you have this blob interest in banning AFD.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The German government declares the most popular party in the country an extremist group. If the definition of extreme is that it is a departure from what's popular. And so by its very definition, it's a contradiction is what I'm getting at there. But that – and thank God for Marco Rubio and Senator Tom Cotton, to his credit, was fantastic on this. He – directing – he and Tulsi Gabbard –
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I think, directed Tulsi Gabbard at ODNI to threaten to not to discontinue intelligence sharing with German intelligence for this domestic surveillance, because this extremist label allowed the German government to spy on every member of the AFD as if they were Al Qaeda. And so because of U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
diplomatic pressure from our State Department, our ODNI, our Congress, Germany has temporarily put that in the enforcement of their surveillance dimension on pause. But what I'm getting at is this is a CIA proprietary, Education International proprietary. who's doing active work to do exactly what the Bill Burns CIA, the John Brennan CIA wants done in Germany. And of course, who was the U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
ambassador to Germany while this all played out with the Nord Stream pipeline blowing up? It was Amy Gutmann. my dean at the University of Pennsylvania. Amy Gutmann, when I was there 20 years ago, she was the dean then, then she became the US ambassador to Germany, head of the State Department in Germany during the Biden administration. And meanwhile, what's the University of Pennsylvania doing?
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It's housing the Penn Biden Center, which is this major foreign policy coordinating node at the university layer. Again, universities are just super NGOs. The universities will organize the international exchanges of ideas with civil society in all these foreign countries. They will produce the white papers that get picked up by the media.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They will liaise with meet with governing officials to advise on economic policy. Don't you know, in the region, you know, this is the whole Jeffrey Sachs Harvard Institute of International Development.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
they have three reasons, national security, national interest, and securing export markets. And, you know, the idea is, is what does America look like if we don't do this? We're in a competition right now with Huawei in the telecom space, in the IT infrastructure space, major state department initiatives to try to
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
government and who work alongside the U.S. government and have a longer reach than the U.S. government. The State Department can't just walk into certain conflict zones and talk to the indigenous community and get honest answers or tell them what to do without being on the record saying something they might not want attributed to them. The NGOs can go in and do that.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
get neutral third-party governments to do away with Huawei and sign up with AT&T, or if not that, other kind of 5G light providers like LG and Nokia in Finland and South Korea, so that at least it's not China-Huawei. And there's lots of reasons given for this.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But the idea is, is if you can, if you can get AT&T to get those contracts, well, AT&T is an American company and this will help American GDP and this will help American jobs. And so like a great example, this is what just happened in Syria. So there's been this big fight over this, this group, the, well, also Mays, Syria has we just lifted sanctions on Syria. Yes. Last month. Yes.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Muhammad al-Jalani, the ISIS commander turned al Qaeda commander turned Idlib rebel, moderate rebel leader who became the de facto head of state in Syria. Now meeting with the U.S. president. U.S. and Western companies and contractors for its services rather than Russian or Chinese ones. So, for example, one of the pledges was to use AT&T for its wireless and telecom services rather than Huawei.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Where are they going to buy their pagers?
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
lobbies to allow at&t to do your your wireless infrastructure that you know that we're monitoring it of course right but you can see how like what would america look like if at&t's now there's i think what 25 million people or so in in syria so at&t has just secured 25 million customers effectively um at the at the you know barrel of a gun effectively with the
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They've drafted off of the US Defense Department who funded the paramilitaries in Syria. They've drafted off of USAID and the billions we funneled into Syria. They've drafted off of State Department diplomacy on their behalf.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The NGOs can serve as the back channels for diplomacy. The NGOs can provide a plausible way of providing financial assistance or money or bribes to various groups to run shipments and arms and to create networks of assets that then a assistant secretary of state can then liaise with.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Well, let's stick with the Syria example for a second. Okay. And go over one of the shadiest of the nonprofits, which is the U.S. Institute of Peace. The U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
What is that? Well, international peace is a funny piece. And international peace has a funny history with U.S. intelligence work. In the JFK files, for example, in the recent declassifications, it showed a group that the CIA infiltrated and directed called the Catholic Association of International Peace.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And all these files show that, yes, we have our assets in here and they're doing this for this. The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, not the Catholic Association for International Peace, but a second international peace, the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace was run from 2014 to 2021 by Bill Burns.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
the guy who would leave the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace to run the Central Intelligence Agency. What qualifies you as running the Endowment for International Peace as your very next job? You hadn't worked in government for seven years. You were cold. He had never worked at the CIA formally.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
He was in the political affairs section, which according to the JFK files, 47% of every person in the political affairs section in 1961 was not actually working in the State Department political section. They were actually called confidential American sources, which is the term for – CIA agents operating under diplomatic cover saying they work for the state.
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Yeah. People say that about me. Yeah. I don't blame him for thinking it. I mean, it's so pervasive. And of course, who was the head of political affairs for the Biden administration? Victoria Nuland.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You know, and who would then go on to, you know, be on the board of the National Down for Democracy, which is another group that was spun out in 1983 by the Reagan administration when they were trying to get the CIA's old powers back. But the Democrats in Congress were blocking that because of the CIA's work against the anti-war faction in the Democrat Party during the 60s and 70s.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So in 1983, Reagan creates Ned. 1984, they create the U.S. Institute of Peace. The U.S. Institute of Peace has had this crazy showdown with the U.S. federal government recently. And it's an unbelievable drama that's been unfolding now for several months. So the U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Institute of Peace was, you know, was chartered by Congress in 1984 in order to do sort of a think of it like the National Endowment for Democracy. But but more is George Orwell in charge of naming these groups.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So, there's this network creation level and there's this influence level at the bottom, but above that government level is what I call the donor drafter class, which is – everyone understands the concept of big donors having a big influence on politics –
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Well, you know, the quote by the National Endowment for Democracy founder, I believe in 1986 in the New York Times, was that it would be terrible for groups to be seen as subsidized by the Central Intelligence Agency. We saw that happen in the 1960s where it was revealed groups were funded by the CIA and it caused embarrassment. And that's why the endowment was created.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It's literally a direct quote saying that the endowment was created to fund the groups that it would be embarrassing for them to be publicly revealed that they got CIA funding. And of course, it was conceived in the office of Reagan's CIA, William Casey and Raymond Green. There's a whole CIA backstory to that, the whole Ned thing. But in 1984, another layer of CIA So the U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Institute of Peace was set up to be a national endowment for democracy, but really focused on conflict zones. Whereas the National Endowment for Democracy operates everywhere. They'll operate very heavily in Hungary or Brazil, places where there's not conflict. real dark terrorist conflict or hyperactive DOD operations, for example.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So in those places, it's a different track of influence for the NGOs because they're working with these communities in these places They're working with the farmers where the coca leaves for cocaine are being grown. They're working, you know, they're working. You mentioned coffee. USAID has spent hundreds of millions of dollars on the coffee trade sector.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And USAID does all this joint work with Starbucks, all this joint work with Keurig. They operate in conflict zones and the drug zones in Colombia and Peru, the Central African Republic. And what they're doing here is... Sorry. Well, I got distracted by the coffee thought. Sorry. What the U.S. Institute of Peace is doing is they're building giant networks and serving as a back-channel diplomacy.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They're doing field work. So they are... If you're in Foggy Bottom or Langley, Virginia, if you want to know what's happening on the ground in Syria... You need the people in the field to report it to you. You need either the U.S. embassy or you need the NGOs connected to the embassy to provide the field work.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Not only do they largely play the key role in determining who's president through the funding that they provide, but they I say donor drafter because they draft off the policies off of the U.S. government. They don't just donate into it. Like in a bike race, you always want to be not in first.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
We want to know what is happening economically in this region, which is the economic crisis. breadbasket that's supporting the US military operations or the mercenary troops so that we can keep them funded. We want to keep the industry in Afghanistan going, the industry in Syria in these sections. So the US Institute of Peace will do those surveys. They'll work with the local populations.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They'll build giant networks. And, you know, in June 2023, the U.S. Institute of Peace, after the Taliban took over Afghanistan, they wrote a piece called Why the Taliban's Successful Opium Ban is Bad for Afghanistan and Bad for the World. And they openly called on the Taliban.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Right, but the opium was funding the entire paramilitary network in Syria. Everyone says, oh, ISIS traffics and drugs, Al-Qaeda traffics and drugs. Well, guess what? ISIS and Al-Qaeda, with the full backing of the Biden government, just successfully overthrew the Biden administration's top enemy in the region, And, uh, now have opened up all their markets to Chevron and AT&T and, um,
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
What I'm saying is, is they were openly, this same group that is working with these Taliban networks and these Afghan special forces and is deeply, deeply involved in Syria is openly calling. And this is not that they got busted paying these Taliban officials when, when Trump tried to assert control over the U S and soup piece, because it's chartered by Congress. It has 15 members of its board.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Three of them are mandatory. The Secretary of State, the Secretary of Defense, and the President of the National Defense University are three reserve spots. So think about this. It's the U.S. Institute of Peace, but required on the board is the Secretary of War, the head of the War Institute, and the Secretary of State. And then there are 12 political appointee spots.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Now, the Trump administration tried to assert control over the U.S. Institute of Peace, as it is statutorily entitled to do. And the response from the U.S. Institute of Peace was to barricade the doors to delete, Doge said, a terabyte worth of financial data, which Doge says it recovered and showed payments to those very Taliban networks that they were saying keep the drugs flowing.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And so evidently, according to the Doge team, they found weapons caches inside, like a full military.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But recently, so this has gone through the courts because the whole blob resistance has been trying to stop all these shutdowns at every layer. Right. Um, the outside general counsel for the U S institute of peace, um, has, he was been the, the outside general counsel for since 1986, just two years.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You want to be right behind the guy in first so that the guy in first is cutting the wind for you so that you don't suffer the cost of the extra exertion to cut the wind. The Pentagon cuts the wind for companies, for multinational corporations. The State Department cuts the wind for multinational corporations and private equity funds and the whole thing. financial overclass.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So, so the guy in, in who's the head lawyer there, uh, has been the head lawyer there since just two years after it was founded since then, since the mid 1980s. Um, so has been, uh, you know, midwifing the legal dark, dark arts of this thing since almost the day it was born.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And he's the one who I believe has spearheaded or been leading this this lawsuit to stop the the federal government's because because the Trump administration cleared the board. The U.S. National Police would not even allow the Trump-appointed board members or its president to even go in the building. That's why the federal police had to... The FBI had to come in and... But what happened was is...
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
That same lawyer also happens to represent the Wireless Trade Association in the U.S. and AT&T and that whole network. So while they are working for regime change in Syria, while the U.S. Institute of Peace is taking U.S. taxpayer money, $55 million a year, to build up this network of paramilitary groups and all these economic assistance programs and midwifing the political negotiations and
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
creating a unified, cohesive block against the Assad government in Syria with U.S. and Sue Peace funds, the same lawyer who's now successfully sued because Judge Beryl Howe blocked the Trump administration's attempt. Now we're back to square one with that. He simultaneously is representing the Wireless Trade Association, where Syria just turned over its IT infrastructure Today, TNT.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So, I mean, just think about that. You've got the U.S. Institute of Peace organizing this regime change in Syria, including using these narco-traffic drugs while calling for the narco networks to keep going.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And simultaneously, the, you know, the senior executives effectively, I know he's senior, he's top outside counsel, but the senior executives effectively are representing the companies that are the direct beneficiaries of this regime change action. So it doesn't matter if it's good for U.S. national security or U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
national interest to topple Bashar al-Assad because they have a fundamentally unique and singular benefit, whether it's good for us or not, which is that they get rich from it.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Well, it's funny you say that because last week at the Council on Foreign Relations, I think the panel was titled Reflections on the Post-Soviet Era and Implications for the Modern Day. This is the Council on Foreign Relations. And one of the questions asked to the panelists directly was, there was a deep state in Russia in the 1990s, these oligarchs. Yes. And, uh, We lost control over Russia.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They're basically analogizing Trump to Putin. And they're saying, we had all this control. We had total control over Russia during the Boris Yeltsin period. And we had all these relationships with the Russian oligarchs. But then Putin had a natural advantage as being the head of state, was somehow able to take over the Russian deep state. And then we lost control over Russia.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The CIA cuts the wind for corporations and financial firms. The USAID cuts the wind. And so you have these figures like George Soros, for example, and Bill Gates, who are now obviously very well renowned in the NGO world, the Open Society Foundation, the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. And then also Rockefeller, Carnegie Foundation, Ford Foundation, all of these.
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Well, what they say is that he also co-opted it and got the oligarchy working for him rather than for outside.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And the punchline to this is, at the end of setting this question up, the guy at Council on Foreign Relations asks, so with those lessons, given that that's what happened with Putin, how can we preserve the deep state against Trump to save, so that the deep state can save us? This is sick. This is sick.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But again, look at like, you know, Chubais and the Russian oligarchs that were working directly with USAID and the Harvard Institute for International Development. And it's the same thing with Brown and Root, that story of Brown and Root and Soros in Gabon in the 1970s. It was the same thing in Russia there where we justified because it was in U.S. national security and national interests.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
to make Russia a democracy and to privatize all their state owned assets. USAID paid up half a billion dollars to the Harvard Institute for International Development. Again, another one of these universities that's delegated by the US government to go deeper into Russian society than the US government was wanted to be seen doing. Very clever name, right? U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Agency for International Development pays the Harvard Institute for International Development. It's just a Harvard spawn of USAID in order to work with two bays and all these Russian oligarchs so that the Russian oligarchs got rich selling at. Discount bargain basement prices, all these Russian state-held assets. In non-competitive bids where only two outside bidders were allowed to participate.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The Harvard Management Fund for the Harvard Endowment and the George Soros Quantum Fund. So it's just looting. It's looting.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And part of that issue is, as they were driving our own country on a similar path, they expressed the exact same contempt that someone would try to do something to stop it. And the other thing is, is they fully acknowledged it was a deep state before Putin.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And it became such a powerful force in Washington that we had to synchronize U.S. foreign policy with the foreign policy set out by the Open Society Foundation.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
They were just mad that they lost control of the deep state, which is why they were so, why a lot of these actions by the early Trump administration have terrified them around co-opting parts of the business community. They hate, for example, Elon Musk. They made this whole campaign to drive Elon away or to go after Tesla.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The reaction to Jeff Bezos, for example, and his posture around reorienting the Washington Post and sort of, the Bill Kristol class was apoplectic that these commercial drivers in the sort of business community, but really these are, this is the private for-profit sector that they would go along with Trump's foreign policy agenda, with Trump's reforms, maybe to be in Trump's good graces.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But the fact is, is that that state, which was such a powerful asset to them, they do not want that handed off to somebody who might oppose them. The same reason that They didn't want Matt Gaetz at the Justice Department. They weaponized that Justice Department under Merrick Garland. They don't want that baton handed off to someone else.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It's not that they have a problem with corruption at the Justice Department. They want a monopoly on that corruption.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Completely. And they were, you know, as we discussed, they were authorized, deputized to do that.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
We talked about the Harvard Endowment, the Harvard Institute for International Development by the Open Society Foundation, which was simultaneously doing its civil society work, funding scientists, funding universities, funding the intellectual class, funding the students, and then simultaneously Soros is operating a hedge fund that is buying up the assets of the Russian government.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
All of these have corporations and financial firms attached to their philanthropy. And when they... So they will receive funding from the U.S. government, from USAID, or their portfolio assets will, or their portfolio NGOs or companies will. But they will also donate into it. And I bring this up because...
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And, and, you know, of the failed Soviet state. Yes. Yes. And this relationship is, I mentioned to you just now that there's a funny story about Soros and Mongolia and the state department in Mongolia. That is like almost the perfect encapsulation of this. to see how this plays out in every country, whether it's Russia or whether it's Poland or whether it's Hungary, you name it.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But Mongolia had discovered in the early 2000s the world's largest copper mine. It's called the Uyo Tuigol mine. And this was by far the biggest mine ever discovered. Mongolia is the biggest mine in the world, primarily copper, some gold too. And a company called Ivanhoe went in to negotiate a deal for the rights over that mine in tandem with Mongolian government.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So I found this in a State Department cable looking up all the Soros and Open Society Foundation things. I believe the cable is from 2007. And it describes how this deal could yield billions of billions of dollars and could massively transform the entire Mongolian economy. It could like double their entire GDP with a single mine.
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and how there was an interest in making sure that this mine was acquired by Western companies rather than Chinese or Russian ones. And in the context of this, the State Department references a pivotal Open Society Foundation Mongolia memo that had caught fire in the Mongolian press and was weighing heavily on public conversation about whether or not
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The Mongolian government would sign this deal with Ivanhoe, with the company for this. And the Soros Foundation writes, and the State Department backs this in this cable. They basically say, yes, this is all correct. Basically, the Mongolian government wanted deal terms signed.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
and was about to pass something hastily in parliament to secure a deal that the Open Society Foundation said was too extractive on behalf of the Mongolian government. That basically the Mongolian government had problems with corruption, They also mentioned that the deal might have environmental impact in terms of the mine and its environmental impact on the ecosystem of Mongolia.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And they give seven reasons in this memo that the Mongolian parliament has to be stopped from doing this deal on these terms.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The punchline is in 2009, the George Soros Management Fund purchased an absolutely huge stake in that very company. Come on. Yes, yes. It changed its name to Rio Tinto, but it was called Ivanhoe while it was negotiating this deal. Now, the Open Society Foundation, they published an 174-page document which went through everything they did inside of Mongolia to kill the deal In 2007.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
oftentimes they are paid by the government, but oftentimes they're actually paying into a government project that advances some other interest. And I can go through a bunch of examples of this, but maybe I'll come back to the history real quick. So in 1948, this was the start of the intelligence state in America.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And what they described is that they networked with all these Mongolian members of parliament. They used their media NGO, their nonprofit organizations, their advocacy groups, their environmental NGOs to argue that the deal should be killed on environmental grounds.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And this culminated, and the Soros Foundation takes credit for its spawning street protests that destabilized the Mongolian government and incentivized the parliament to not ink this deal. And again, the Soros Foundation logic was that it was too extractive on the part of the Mongolian government. The Mongolian government was getting too good a deal from this.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Yes, in their country. And George Soros didn't own enough of it. So the U.S. embassy in Mongolia is working with the Soros network. Now, they're doing it on national interest, national security grounds. They're saying, hey- If a Western company doesn't get this, China's right next door to Mongolia. They're big in the minerals, the metals space.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
We don't want to lose this mine, the biggest copper mine in the world, to a Chinese competitor. We want to make sure a Western gets this deal. But the Open Society Foundation, which is underneath the... Now, it's the nonprofit side of the Soros Management Fund. The Open Society Foundation is saying, hey, the Kill this deal because the company is not getting enough money out of this.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And then as soon as they kill that and get more profit secured for the mining company, the Soros Management Fund buys up the equity way before everybody else. You can read about this. No matter what happened with the mine, he would have doubled his profit.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
I think it went from $0.09 to $0.17 before a deal was even inked or before they even got to one of the development stages of it, simply because... Everybody else hearing the news about this rushed into it. But Soros had already bought up the stock because his own NGOs were on the ground midwifing the entire process with the full force and credit of the U.S. government driving.
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Oh, I'm sure it's happened.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And this is where you get this curious line around gongos, government-organized NGOs, and ongos, I guess, these oligarch-organized NGOs, and where they all sort of meet in the middle. And where they meet in the middle is, I guess, what we just call
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
It was NSC 10-2, authored by George Kennan, which gave the CIA its plausible deniability doctrine. That allowed you to that allowed the CIA to have a license to lie. The CIA came into creation. I'll just take a quick look here. The CIA was created because the State Department wanted dirty deeds done without being attributed to the State Department.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
politics, the topography of political factions in the US in the sense that every major company has an interest in sponsoring NGOs that regardless of whether they believe in the mission of it, they advance something that helps the business side of this. So I mentioned Brown and Root. had the Brown Foundation. And the Soros Management Fund has the Open Society Foundation.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
And Microsoft has the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation. But the last one was a little bit tongue-in-cheek. But what I'm getting at here is, take the example of this Mongolia mine. The Soros didn't care about the environmental impact of that Mongolia mine.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
The fact that they could astroturf environmental protesters to take to the streets and to create a human rights predicate as to why the international community should intervene to stop the Mongolian government from signing this deal was simply an NGO – it was simply an – Now, if the U.S. government did that, that would have to come straight from the CIA.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
That would be a covert action if you're going to run through front groups. But if you have an ostensibly public one, but you're not seeing the classified State Department cables or whatever's CIA underneath that, making an argument from their Asia desk, well, this is going to help U.S. national security because that's less minerals for China.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
But then Soros is using that money and sponsoring- It's unbelievable. Yeah.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So they staged a little Mongolia right here in the US. Yes. And they're all the same groups. They're all the same groups. And a great example of this, we were talking about the US Institute of Peace. The U.S.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Institute of Peace, we talked about it in the context of Syria and how they were openly funding the Taliban and lobbying the Taliban to keep 95% of the world's opium flowing after the Taliban took over.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Good point. More for the rest of it. It's unbelievable. But they, so they are involved in these astroturfed NGO rent-a-riots very heavily. If you go to the publications page. The Institute of Peace. Yes, yes, the U.S. Institute of Peace. Now, you have to understand, they have a term for this. Get ready for it. Nonviolent action. That's the term.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
Now, if you have to say that you're nonviolent, you're probably a little bit, you know, I'm not like nonviolently drinking this water. But you have to understand where this came. So this came from the same military network that, We talked about how the origin point for this was 1948. The UN Declaration of Human Rights forbids military conquest, territorial accession by military force.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
UN Declaration of Human Rights, the UN Charter that 1948 passed. the NGO framework at the international level intergovernmentally. 1948 is also when the CIA inaugurates organized political warfare through the use of NGOs. But right at this time, you have... Sorry, one second. I just had a second thought that just crept up on this. We were talking about the U.S. and Sufis.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So right at this time, you have this move from direct military force to topple governments through military coups or through military takeovers or through getting military defectors to – instead of a top-down attempt to induce regime change, they created a blueprint. This is the famous color revolution blueprint, the people-powered revolution.
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
You have lots of names for this, which is the bottom-up method, which instead of
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
getting at the military level with tanks and guns and fighter jets you do it at the paramilitary street level you shut down the country by getting a critical mass of its civil society organizations to not cooperate with that government so the government can't bring any and can't bring in any revenue they can't pay their own police officers or members of the military to quell the riots because
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Mike Benz: The CIA’s Use of NGOs to Coup Foreign Governments, and How They’re Doing It to Trump
So they needed some outside agency which could do what George Kennan called two months before he authored the plausible deniability doctrine in NSC 10-2. He called this the inauguration of organized political warfare. This is a very little known memo that was not declassified, I believe, until 2005. It was written in 1948.
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There's no money in the government coffers because they'll be sanctioned by the international community for cracking down on the protesters and because the country itself is not – the hospital workers have walked out. The public health industry workers have walked out. The schools aren't open. The hospitals aren't open. The roads are being blockaded.
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The only way to get rid of these people is either with – hundreds of thousands of police officers in every region to drag them or to kill them, in which case you have the human rights violations. And then every person is kicked off the SWIFT system and the international finance system and sanctions and threats of, you know, threats of a military intervention at that point.
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So this was pioneered by the US military, this paramilitary street technique that they call nonviolent action. And this was done through Gene Sharp and his cohorts. It was at the Harvard CIA, incidentally, the Harvard Center for International Affairs. It's a very cute nickname. But Henry Kissinger was there. They recruited Gene Sharp.
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They got $50 million in Pentagon funding to develop the playbook that they now call From Dictatorship to Democracy, the idea that you can use...
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mass NGO action to organize the unions, the trade workers, the laborers, the media organizations, every aspect of civil society in order to encircle the government, to cut it off from its own sources of power, and then with the sitting government effectively
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paraplegic, quadriplegic, basically cut off from its arms and legs, it would be ousted by a street protest that effectively surrounds the Capitol and takes over the buildings. I mean, this is basically, it's a January 6th blueprint if what they said about January 6th was actually true, which of course it's not. But, you know, everyone can watch Bringing Down a Dictator, the PBS documentary about
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about the State Department and U.S. Institute of Peace, their work getting the Oat Poor Movement in Yugoslavia to topple Slobodan Milosevic. That was nonviolent action is what they call it. Now, the ending scene of that documentary, you hear the whole documentary. He says, nonviolent action, nonviolent action.
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The climax of the documentary, which has soaring violins as if this is an amazing thing, is the... Parliament building, the Capitol building in Serbia being set on fire, its windows smashed, and a throng of hundreds of thousands of angry street protesters flooding into the building and declaring themselves the new government.
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This is cheered on by the State Department, USAID, the US Institute of Peace. The US Institute of Peace was actually on the ground training them And, and, you know, meanwhile, the narrator, Martin Sheen is the narrator in this documentary. And he goes on to say, it's, it's all about nonviolent action. It's, it's, uh, and, and he says, and the, that's, OATPOR wears all black.
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They have, uh, they have tight leather. Um, they have, uh, they have a clenched fist as their, as their symbol. It is all intentionally sinister, right? It's like intentionally sinister Molotov cocktails and police cars setting the Capitol building on fire, breaking the glass, forcing the the democratically elected president to flee by hell of back out of the country.
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This is what they call nonviolent action. And just again, nonviolent action just means mob violence action. But to them, that is less violent than violence. bombing Sarajevo for, do you understand?
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Everyone knows George Kennan as the head of the policy planning staff at the State Department, as the author of the containment strategy against Russia in the Cold War, one of the most celebrated folks in US diplomacy history. But two months before granting this license to do all this, to have the CIA operate through NGOs, through civil society organizations, through private foundations,
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Yes.
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Well, that's exactly what happened.
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No, it's literally the exact same network. I have all of their planning documents from starting two weeks after the riots popped off. We can get into that whole thing with the Transition Integrity Project and the U.S. Institute of Peace Program on Nonviolent Action. Oh, incidentally, that's a... They were involved in that too? Yeah.
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Yes, and the International Center for Nonviolent Conflict was a big part of these, you know, how to leverage the BLM protests to shut the country down in case Trump won the 2020 election on Election Day 2020.
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um this is they also work through the union groups especially the afl-cio which is the the top cia conduit in the union space around the world leftists in the 1960s used to call it the afl-cia remember the afl-cio had a secret agreement with the chamber of commerce about uh protests to shut down the country this is published in time magazine by molly ball but on this talk about talk about the unit party when labor and management are both colluding against you you
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Yes. Yes. But both of them were threatened by Trump's foreign policy. The unions get hundreds of millions of dollars from the State Department, from USAID. We have a whole... We have multiple bureaus just for funding them. The Department of Labor is an international affairs bureau. We spent $20 million funding unions in 2023 alone in Brazil.
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The AFL-CIO's union groups in just one country in one year, $20 million to the union groups there.
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Yeah, kind of weird there. And it was specifically for labor, for mobilization of the unions and help them better organize themselves. Do you remember that Lula was the head of the Workers' Party? Yeah. Remember who broke him out of jail? It was the AFL-CIO. Who did the AFL-CIO name the man of the year? I think it was in 2021 or 2022. They named Lula the man of the year.
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And what is the AFL-CIO or... It's not only was it directly sponsored by the Central Intelligence Agency for 30 years during the Cold War, but now they don't even need that because they have the CIA spinoff National Endowment for Democracy, which has its own union branch called the Solidarity Center. The Solidarity Center is a formal part of AFL-CIO. It is inseparable from it.
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And the Solidarity Center kicks them money. So what I'm saying is the Chamber of Commerce was threatened by a potential abandonment of cutting the wind for them, of Trump doing liberal interventions against military interventions, humanitarian interventions in every country on God's green earth.
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We would just go in, replace the government, and then what would happen to AT&T if they couldn't get those contracts? What would happen to Amex if we didn't have USAID's DIA app in Ukraine? I'm sorry, I think it's Visa. So that Visa gets all the credit card processing for all the transactions there. What would happen to Starbucks if we abandoned the USAID coffee programs
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in Peru and Colombia and the Central African Republic? What would happen to the petroleum companies if we didn't
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through these astroturf grassroots advocacy nonprofits. He wrote this memo called The Inauguration of Organized Political Warfare. And he argues that this is now April 1948. We had just effectively rigged the 1948 Italian election, April 18th, 1948. This was the first democratic election in Italy, which after World War II had ended.
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you know, militarily step up our presence to, so the chamber of commerce and the unions, labor and management had a common enemy, common enemy, the same way Democrats and Republicans did when Trump first came on the scene, because anyone who wants to put America first is going to run straight into everyone who wants to put their own interests first. America be damned.
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There's three layers of it. There's the executive branch layer, the legislative, and the judicial. On the executive branch layer, an unbelievable amount of positive accomplishments have been done through the executive branch
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And I think that the Trump admin deserves credit, even as we're unsatisfied with how big this is and how many problems there have been with Congress and judges blocking things. It took a lot of political capital to do what they did, and they were aggressive at almost every layer of it with some very big asterisks and exceptions.
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The firing of 14,000 people at USAID, the closure of the offices, the funding pauses was absolutely massive, both symbolically and in very, very real terms. The restructuring that Marco Rubio has led at the State Department is absolutely massive.
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Like 135 sub-agencies are being riffed, totally killed, the reduction in force totally laid off so that you don't even need the congressional approval because there's no job for fire people to go back to because the division doesn't exist anymore.
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Those include the Democracy, Rights, and Labor Bureau at the State Department, which is the number one coordinating web, I guess, in tandem with the International Organizations Bureau.
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democracy rights and labor is the like the main place at state for the ngo plex because they're all getting this funding and they're all coordinating with the state department getting the protection of the state department because they are promoting democracy as the state department wants them to do the rights and it stands for human rights because you know human rights violations in foreign countries and then labor is you know the unions and the
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And this is where you get the rental riots and all this. And you can go online and see weeping videos from people from the Democracy, Rights, and Labor Bureau that they've been working there for 15, 20 years, and suddenly it's gone. And this is going to have a devastating impact. Of course, it never has a devastating impact on these things.
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A great example is the AP ran a story about – I think the initial title for it was – Trump's move to end USAID crushes cocaine programs dedicated to combating the cocaine trade. And the article is... the biggest self-owned you'll ever read.
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It's all about how, you know, we have all this money that goes to Colombia and to Peru and to Bolivia to stop the cocaine, to stop drug trafficking in the, you know, Colombia's number one, Peru's number two, biggest coca leave, you know, cultivation in the world. It goes on to say, we spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year to cocaine is going to flourish.
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Then they, they have a statement that they include because they reached out to the president of Columbia. President Columbia says, we're thrilled that USAID is gone. They, you know, they, they, they made the problem worse. Then they, they, they go to Peru and the number two called, you know, Coke, Coke, sorry, coca leaf cultivator.
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And they said the Peruvian government refused to comment, but we talked to the former head of the National Commission on Narcotics Prevention, the former head of the part of the Peruvian government that handles this. And he said, thank God the USAID programs on combating cocaine here are gone. They were the primary problem in this whole thing. Actually, the... And he gives an example.
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He says, actually, not only did none of the money actually ever reach the groups, but they only slowed down action that the Peruvian government tried to do. When the Peruvian government tried to do something to stop cocaine, USAID would step in and they would delay things. They would drag things. It's almost like they want the cocaine. And then he gives the example of these.
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He says, and in Bolivia, right next door. Bolivia banned USAID in 2013, and they drastically reduced the cocaine trafficking because there was no USAID cocaine program keeping the cocaine flowing. And so anyway, but what I'm saying is this is all done through these programs. You know, these State Department bureaus, which are now being reorganized.
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And we had pitted basically a pro-US, pro-Western democracy candidate versus a pro-Soviet autocracy candidate was how it was pitched. And the very first national security memo, 1-1, was on the central importance of Italy to the U.S. position at the dawn of the Cold War and that we could not afford to lose this election. And so the very first covert action of the Central Intelligence Agency –
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So at the executive branch level, I would say there's huge wins at the National Science Foundation, which is a major, you know, NGO and university sponsor for this. A couple of big misses, though. how the National Endowment for Democracy remains fully funded.
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They were talking a big talk, the Trump administration, about defunding the National Endowment for Democracy, which I would say is one of, if not the worst of the worst offender in this entire space, especially with Damon Wilson at the helm, who came straight from the Atlantic Council Digital Forensics Research Lab, which was the censorship super center of the Western world.
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seven CIA directors on the Atlantic Council's board, funded by the Pentagon State Department and USAID. The Atlantic Council, where it came from, at that time, the Atlantic Council was running training seminars to get journalists to flag Trump tweets, including one seminar called I Call Bullshit, where the Atlantic Council Digital Forensics Research Lab, where Damon Wilson was the head,
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They are training schools of journalists holding up Trump tweets on Jumbotron that says two words, witch hunt. This is one month before the Mueller hearing. So Russiagate was at its apex. They wanted to censor or call disinformation Trump's attempt to present his own case around Russiagate. And they provoked journalists to hold up Atlantic Council sponsored placards with the word bullshit on it.
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And that means sponsored by you and me because we pay for them through 11 different government agencies pay the Atlantic. So why are they?
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I'm not privy to those internal conversations. I have actually seen the IR... So there's four cores at NED. There's the two political branches, NDI for the Democrats, the National Democratic Institute, IRI for the Republicans, the International Republicans. Which McCain ran for years. Yep, McCain ran. Mitt Romney's on the board. Madeleine Albright, by the way, was the head of NDI.
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Hunter Biden was on the Chairman's Advisory Board of NDI. Nina Jankovic was at NDI. So those are the two political branches. And then the other two core fours are the exact other two groups who signed that secret agreement around organizing destabilizing street protests in case Trump won. The third one is called the Center for International Private Enterprise, CPEC. That's the U.S.
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Chamber of Commerce branch of NED. And the fourth one is called the Solidarity Center. That's the AFL-CIO union arm of NED. So what do you know?
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The never-Trump Republicans, the Democrats, the Chamber of Commerce, and the unions, the exact group behind the Transition Integrity Project, which explicitly plotted in the height of the George Floyd riots, ran a war game about how the Biden campaign encased Trump 1 in a clear win scenario. Clear Trump win was the name of their scenario. Scenario 3. This is in June 2020.
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how the Biden campaign could get racial justice activists from these riots to be, quote, receptive to a Biden call to take to the streets. And plotted what needed to be done to resource them and to cultivate relationships with Black Lives Matter's senior leadership and community leaders so that they would owe the Biden administration favors in case they need to be called on.
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And lo and behold, 50 billion dollars. The Chamber of Commerce then flooded them with 50 billion dollars in contributions. You remember that? All the different chamber of commerce companies just flooded billions of dollars of donations to BLM. To destroy our country. Yes. And meanwhile, the AFL-CIO and SEIU were all on the streets with them.
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Just like they are around the world when we want riots in Georgia, we want riots in Serbia, we want riots in Hungary. We go straight to the AFL-CIO branch. But those are the four corners of net or the exact four corners of the effective insurrection against Trump during term one. I don't understand how that can remain. I know IRI has made reforms. Let me say this to their credit.
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In full disclosure, they have reached out to me, and I think I've mentioned this publicly before, but I haven't really been able to say all that much because it just doesn't really come up much. And I have seen them attempt to make – this is the Republican side of it. And I've heard from folks around its senior leadership that they –
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that they've recognized how elements of what they were doing before were inappropriate, they'd gone rogue, that certain people who were there are not there anymore, that they are trying to align their actions with the foreign policy set by their sponsors, the US government. And I have seen genuine good faith efforts.
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Look, I'm not weighing into whether or not they're doing it for cynical, self-serving reasons. But frankly, you could argue they may have been doing the other, the bad stuff, because the Biden administration wanted them to do that. Or because Trump was on shaky ground in his own first term and didn't really control his own Congress or budget or had a very strong coalition. But the point is,
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Under the 1947 Act, it was largely conceived of as being an intelligence collection agency, not so much operations. The CIA has two different career tracks. Intelligence, you know, they call it the analyst track and the operations track. And they're very different breeds of people. They're very, very different in what they do.
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NDI has not made those reforms at all. The Solidary Center has not made those reforms. And the issue is if you say, okay, IRI has reformed, the Republican branch of it has, but these other three are still rogue. Well, then what happens, the whole purpose of NED is that it's bipartisan and that it therefore sort of synchronizes U.S. policy, U.S.
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foreign policy on both sides of the political aisle because everyone's on the take. So everyone has a reason to invade Ukraine. Everyone has a reason to topple Assad. But if only, if IRI reforms but NDI doesn't, What happens to Ned?
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I think they do, actually. Good. As I mentioned, I'm reading Bill Burns' autobiography, The CIA Director for Biden.
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Right, but I think there is recognition of that. And I think this is also why you see this, everything is alliance-based and why you see, for example, the Biden administration moving so deeply in tandem with the EU on all things and using EU regulatory action to box out populists. Like the Biden administration was totally behind the EU Digital Censorship Act that is going to become- Completely.
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Yes. Literally, I think their internal documents from their White House Information Integrity Working Group planning the whole thing, as well as the USAID programs to beef up the terms of it so that it can be used against domestic enemies in America. But the fact is, is. I think this is part of the global alliance structure.
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One of them, you know, you collect the intelligence and you synthesize it for policymakers at the State Department or at the White House National Security Council. A lot of reading, a lot of foreign websites. Yes, a lot of academics. Yeah.
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And I actually don't think that the Biden administration really moved unilaterally assuming unipolar power. Almost every major foreign policy decision would have the buy-in of the UK, France, the in-power parties in Germany and Canada. and paid very close attention to, and in fact, partnering with, in many ways, China. I mean, Trump blocked China from being able to import oil and gas from Iran.
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Blocked that for four years, two months into Biden's term. China inked the Iran deal by $400 billion of oil and gas from Iran. It's just, so I don't think there is a kind of as much of the unipolar, there is some of it, definitely. Like you hear the John Bolton types, you know, talk about, you know, almost presupposing that we can just bully everyone around.
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But I think even that is done with an expectation that it's going to be NATO wide, it's going to have, you know, allies around the world. But to your point, I think that the Ukraine-Russia war has been a humbling period, which I think is why there actually is an appetite for peace. even within many aspects of the blob. They just want peace on terms that are beyond their leverage to obtain.
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And that is a war of attrition that gets back to the efforts to cut USAID and the NGO plex. USAID spent $15 billion. I think it was one year alone on Ukraine on this. USAID NGOs are funding the pensions of people in Ukraine, are funding the salaries of municipal workers. there's more welfare for people in Ukraine from USAID than, you know, effectively American citizens who live here legally.
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And the operations is where you get, you know, the Barry Seale cocaine cowboy types and, you know, these, you know, the kind of wild folks who go in and do the dirty work to overthrow democratically elected governments or to do the.
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And the fact is, is if that USAID spigot gets cut, Things will go south very quickly. This is why the EU is creating its own army. Trillion dollar budget that they've announced for the EU to effectively create a parallel NATO in case Trump dips out of that. But in the heat of this, I mentioned a few of the failings. One of them, Ned. Another one is a trillion dollar Pentagon budget.
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is hard for me to imagine that that does not go to prolonging the war, but the Trump administration is a tough choice. If you totally deprive Ukraine of the lifeline that they've had, everything crumbles immediately, but then you lose the deal terms in the sense that there's no hope to have Ukraine Territory in Eastern Ukraine, you know, flow back to control by the Kiev government.
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There's no hope to recover all the petroleum resources in Ukraine. Ukraine is the third largest shale reserves, I believe, in all of Europe, especially in the Donbass and off the coast. And so, you know, I think Trump is between a blob and a hard place. You know, he has to, if he wants a budget done, he needs Congress to approve. We do not have a populist supermajority in Congress.
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There are more populists now in Congress than there were under Trump 1. So I don't think Trump will get as rolled as he was by Paul Ryan. But there will be rolling, undoubtedly. We've seen 26 members of Congress, I think, have said that they're not going to approve the doge cuts, just the doge cuts.
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And while you're getting handed even more money from a from a trillion dollar Pentagon budget and how much of that trillion is going to be civil military, i.e. NGOs, because the military funds these NGOs. As I mentioned, the secretary of war is on the. for the U.S. Institute of Peace. The Pentagon pays the Atlantic Council.
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The Pentagon pays for NATO, which has all the societal resilience and social cohesion grants to the NGO space to do all this. And so a lot of... You can shut down USAID... but you can just call it civil, civil military and the civil society NGOs will be funded by the Pentagon. So, um, Trump has to keep his coalition together.
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And so he, he's, he can't get everything he wants just as we're not a unipolar power anymore. Trump is not a unipolar president, but so, so I'm happy with singles and doubles, um, As long as the direction line is towards a better country, the question is, are we even going to get the singles or doubles?
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Or is the blob going to get enough home runs and triples on the other side of it that on net, nothing comes to pass?
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True. Although John Brennan was an analyst track his whole career. And, you know, I don't know that that makes a more charitable case than the operations side, but... But the fact is, is Kennan writes this memo in 1948, 12 days after the U.S. had rigged the Italian election in 1948. And that's what it was.
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It buys votes in Congress. If you want to fire people at the Justice Department, if you want to get people approved by the Senate for their positions, if you want to get rid of the Department of Education, hey, you might need to give them a Pentagon bone. And it's a very dirty soup.
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Miles Copeland, who was one of the leaders of that from the CIA side, wrote in a biography later in his life that without CIA intervention in that election, we would have lost 60 to 40.
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Well, and Miles Copeland, the- I think I may be getting that wrong. Well, the grandson actually went on to be, I think, the manager for Sting, R.E.M., a bunch of these major bands, and then teamed up with Donald Rumsfeld. in order to help do music diplomacy in Iraq and Afghanistan, which is a whole other family of secrets.
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What happens is, in the 1948 election, the CIA, which did not really have the authorization to do what it did, it was a last-minute, last-ditch, Hail Mary effort to swing the election, and they took the assets that they had had from World War II, backing, at that time, the OSS, the War Department, before in 1948 it changed to the Defense Department,
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The War Department had worked closely with the Vatican, with the church, as well as with mafia organizations, organized crime factions in Italy that were being prosecuted by Mussolini. And we were teamed up with them. They gave us access to ports, to infrastructure, to safe houses. They were a big network, pro-US network node organization. during World War II.
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And because of their influence on unions, they allowed us to run arms, run transshipments of supplies, food, assistance, all of that, which is one of the reasons that the Italian mafia was protected for 60 years, was very much a Cold War asset for the U.S., So the CIA achieves this successful result in April 1948, and they do so by using NGOs. They use charity fronts.
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should be vanquished entirely it's it's family if that makes sense you know i i was i was thinking about this the other day with we talked about ukraine several times when we've spoken and we've talked about the 2014 maidan toppling of the democratically elected government the
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Coincidentally, the person on the pro-USA side who's leading the charge to fight the White House's reforms is Senator Chris Murphy. Chris Murphy bragged on live national television that the U.S. toppled that government. It was only because of U.S. pressure and U.S. support on the ground for the movements there that toppled that government.
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But leaving aside the morality of whether that was the right or wrong thing to do in the name of democracy, when Victoria Nuland made her speech in December 2013, two, three months before that, those protests changed world history.
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She bragged about the $5 billion that USAID and NED and related humanitarian assistance orgs had given to effectively the very same Ukrainian civil society organizations that would lead that charge. And when she did so, she was at a sponsored event by standing in front of signs for ExxonMobil and Chevron. And
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And I've reflected on that picture because it's very easy to look at Victoria Newland as a sort of angel of death figure who knocks on European countries doors and tells them, hey, we're about to topple your democratically elected government. And it's very easy to look at the excesses of of big U.S. corporations. But we do need oil. We do want cheap oil and gas. We do want energy dominance.
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And so, you know, at this moment when we're seeing really the first vulnerabilities, certainly in my lifetime, of this blob monstrosity, I feel a strange sort of sympathy for the devil, which is that they've done terrible things and we should not do them again. And they've gone rogue and there's no oversight and horrors beyond your wildest imagination.
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At the same time, these are still parts of the American family. There is some vestige of a function there that I believe our foreign policy planners have to at least know was there and was responsible for much of our prosperity before it's As they try to reconstruct the patient. Does that make sense? Of course it does.
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be able to make it be righteous and virtuous again. But you couldn't do that while it had this halo. And so the halo had to be broken. The mask had to be taken off in order to implement reforms. And there have been... I feel... the global impact of fundamental changes to U.S.
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Well, I'm really glad you asked because that is the exact example I've been using to try to... to try to give a window of entry into this larger sort of point about we need a much larger vision about the role of U.S. foreign policy if we are going to get rid of the shortcuts that USAID provides.
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And so, you know, you just mentioned, you know, why would USAID be promoting, you know, trans... Take the example of transgender dance festivals. That's something I've been talking about a lot this week.
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So that is when USAID or USAID's companion star, National Endowment for Democracy or other related NGOs will fund an event in the form of a sort of cultural exchange, and they will bring together people from that country to come to a dance festival that's comprised of transgender individuals and is intended to both
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foreign policy that are happening now, because, you know, as I've been saying for so long, I mean, there really is a sort of USAID Truman show that much of the world lives in. You know, many people found out for the first time this week that 90 percent of media in Ukraine is funded by USAID. Many people have We're just now finding out the extent of U.S.
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Create a sense of unity within the transgender population there and to expose and normalize and curry favor with other parts of the demographics there in order to expand the network node of of U.S. entities who are working with the activists and leaders.
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I wish that was rhetorical. And I do believe in many instances it is ideological excess driven to madness. But give an example from just a few months ago. I believe it was this August this year there was a prime minister in Bangladesh who was basically ousted in a sort of military coup coupled with a color revolution and
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And Grayzone News, Max Blumenthal's outlet, published this report that I've been talking about a lot for the past week because it's just a really, really clean example of all the different facets of the dynamics I'm talking about, which is... Basically, starting in about 2018 through 2020, it appeared that U.S. statecraft was not particularly pleased with U.S.
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Sheikh Hasina winning this, you know, the prime minister winning the election and baseline assessments were submitted to the State Department about how to prop up the opposition group, the Bangladesh National Party, the BNP, which was considered more favorable to US interests. The leaked documents don't get too in the nitty gritty about what US national interest has served.
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But there were many conflicts between that Bangladeshi prime minister and the U.S. foreign policy establishment. For example, it was revealed in WikiLeaks that Hillary Clinton, while she was secretary of state, threatened to have the IRS do an audit of her son while she lived in the U.S. Basically, there was a conflict around the construction of a U.S.
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military base in the region, which is a very common conflict that we have. Oftentimes, foreign countries don't like having a big, fat U.S. military base installed.
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Right. They don't want 500 acres of their land. They don't want to provoke foreign powers. This is what's playing out in Romania with Georgia's queue and the cancellation of the elections.
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media organizations that are funded by USAID. They're finding out the reach of it in everything from the unions to social media censorship to pandemic and gain-of-function research to strange ties even to things like terrorism and the drug trade. And there's that sort of...
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Well, they're building Europe's largest NATO base currently, which faces straight out of the Black Sea at Crimea. But she had been refusing to build a U.S. military base. So let's just... But as I walk through this, let me just make some assumptions and make it a harder issue than, or something a little bit more, I guess, accessible. Let's just say it really is vital to U.S.
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national interests to build that military base in Bangladesh to counter Chinese influence and the Bangladeshi prime minister doesn't want to do it. And so our foreign policy planners decide we need to do regime change. And whether or not you agree, that's a good or an evil thing to do. I'm not even weighing into the morality of it. What if it is the... Declared or discrete policy of the U.S.
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government, the State Department and the White House and the National Security Council all agree this government, we should pursue regime change. All options to destabilize that country in order to weaken the existing government and to build up our network of democratic institutions and activists everywhere.
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in order to either win the next election or in order to do a color revolution style ousting where the prime minister has to flee in a helicopter. And what was done in this case in Bangladesh, and these leaked documents from the gray zone show this in gratuitous detail, is that the National Endowment for Democracy's Republican arm, the International Republican Institute, they have...
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four core force, but two of them are political branches. There's the NDI, the National Democratic Institute for Democrats, and there's the IRI, the International Republican Institute for Republicans. And what the IRI submitted to the State Department in 2019, 2020, after they got walloped trying to back the Bangladeshi National Party in the recent past election,
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was a plan to destabilize Bangladesh politics. That's a direct quote, destabilize Bangladesh politics. By working with, they listed 170 pro-democracy activists, 304 key informants, and then they did a baseline assessment of the different ethnic groups and cultural cleavage points that they could exploit either destabilize the country's politics or prop up the political alternative.
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And in the process of doing that, they sought the LGBT population, two Bangladeshi ethnic minority groups, and young students and student groups who had already been protesting earlier that year because of, a local politics issue there. And they noted that rap music was popular and young people were listening to rap music in Bangladesh. So what do they do?
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They turned around and they took US taxpayer funds. They get 100% of the money from the state department and they work closely with USAID. They actually administer USAID programs all over Bangladesh and all over the world. And they funded Bangladeshi rap groups to produce songs and music videos insinuating that people should take to the streets and do street protests.
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And, you know, the classic peaceful protest that has the upside of being a riot and protests. uh in you know one of in in iri's baseline assessment submitted to the state department they talked about how one of the songs they paid for uh was was designed to uh to sow resentment uh at the sitting government and uh you know basically undermine people the popularity of the government so you have
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One sponsored song to get people to take the streets, another sponsored rap song to get people to distrust their government. And then basically the baseline assessment revealed that these groups were the ones who would be receptive Those were the contacts in the region. They do field work when they do these baseline assessments.
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These institutions that everyone thought were private and independent being corrupted by, you know, USAID's 44 billion odd dollar a year budget. And when I think a lot of people... That was a process that I felt was necessary to tell the story of internet censorship. Because for me, my journey of discovery on this was like everybody else.
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What if the baseline assessment, the strategic assessment, happens to reveal that the highest ROI for soft power projection is with very unseemly groups and activities? This is, for example, how we end up funding terrorist groups and paramilitaries. And very extreme, because oftentimes when you have...
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a popular government it's the coalition of the fringes and the extremes and the weirdos and the criminals and the prostitutes this this was in an ned memo in 2009 for cuba where they were uh were the national down for democracy uh you know they have something called the journal of democracy and
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You know, they talked about this exact phenomenon that they might be able to mobilize the Afro-Cuban community to, you know, leveraging racial animus against the, you know, mostly, you know, white Cuban government and, you know, taking note of, you know, proclivities for I think it was prostitution, crime and drugs and how.
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How USAID might be able to swoop in and mobilize these people because a lot of them are really unemployed. And also USAID should fund the rap groups there because these populations all listen to rap, and they did. And this is another great gray zone.
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Well, there's a lot there. USAID gave... Like, am I crazy to ask that? No, not at all. I mean, that is, to me, the final blow. It's bad, and there's the moral question about whether to do this sort of dirty work abroad or... And that comes down to different schools of foreign policy thought and to different views on the relative morality of different ways of attacking the issue of U.S.
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soft power influence abroad. But then there is the. the breaking of the firewall where our foreign policy hounds are never supposed to bite the owner who feeds them. And that is, I mean, that is to me why this is a no brainer, the reforms that are happening.
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I thought internet censorship was a domestic story at first. And so I start following the trail of it. And then I see, oh, that's weird. At this disinformation conference, the next panel is on energy geopolitics. What are they doing together? Huh? That's weird. And then you go over to the energy geopolitics people and you see, okay, well, their fellow panelists are all military contractors. Okay.
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All right. So the military has something to do with social media censorship and the energy pipeline politics and in Ukraine have something to do with it. Okay. That's interesting. And then you keep going down the line and you see, okay, there are these chamber of commerce partners. And then you see, oh, there are these companies.
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suite of humanitarian aid organizations like USAID, NED, the whole suite of NGOs, State Department grantees, National Science Foundation grantees. And you start to see that this is... In order to tell the story, I felt, of internet censorship and what to do to stop it, you had to explain a totally different world than the one people thought that they lived in.
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And for the first several years of this, when I would do my little private briefings and bring my PowerPoints around the country, it was impossible, frankly, to crack through. Even when people saw the receipts on screen, they saw the source documents,
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I think this is why I'm saying I think people are going to want to not necessarily put a new heart in this in this patient when they see how deep it all goes.
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Yes. Now, of course, the personnel, you know, 97 percent of USAID employees donate to Democrats. Of course. Right. But but, you know, Liz Cheney started her her career. You know, she is at the at USAID, at the Eurasia portfolio of Russia, Ukraine, Poland, Hungary.
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Oh, I mean, I literally just quoted you a IRI document implementing USAID programs where they literally wrote to the U.S. State Department that the purpose of this baseline assessment was to gather as many activists and informants and network nodes, quote, to destabilize you know, Bangladeshi politics, but apply that everywhere.
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You know, this is, you know, fundamentally what I believe happened during the picture. Do you, do you really want that? Like, isn't that shameful? Of course it's shameful, but, but the, I think people don't fully understand how products arrive on the shelves around them. Um, I was mentioning Milton Friedman's pencil example.
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and and they they just couldn't conceive that the world actually works this way uh that that our country does these things uh and they have a hard time squaring the morality of it with the the operational side if that makes sense like they don't want to believe certain things and so even if it's six inches in front of their face they won't and so but
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Well, what happens if Malaysia decides to nationalize, you know, to block exports of of gum from the gum trees and the the African miners decide that they are going to go on strike and not allow, you know, not allow, you know, graphite or lead, you know, and No blob, no pencils.
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If you don't have a mechanism to influence that foreign government, to stop the nationalization law, to hit it with carrots and sticks, or if it's a problem within the population, sub-government. This is what happened in the Cold War when the CIA was breaking up union strikes in France and the docks and the longshoremen strikes and the CIA infiltrated the unions and they worked with the
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You know, AFL-CIO slash AFL-CIA. And, you know, they all have union arms. And so you need a method to be able to go into the unions if you want to be able to have pencils. Now, OK, you might say you can live without pencils. But how about no petroleum?
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What if it's something that's, what if these are really critical resources for us to be able to have microchips, for us to be able to have renewable batteries, for us to be able to have, you know, build computers, for us to be able to put gas in our car or heating in our home? There is a potential necessity. And this is why I feel it's so imperative that what's happening right now is happening.
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And I'm thrilled that it is, but there's still much more to internalize about this because You're going to need to reconstruct the history of the entire past century as you disentangle this whole thing. If we had not toppled so many foreign governments in service of big oil, would we have had cheap oil? Well, does a president want to... This is where I come back to this Venezuela example.
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Trump wants to win. And again, we don't have to call it Venezuela. We can call it random country X. We're going to be hit with a choice as we reduce the USAID function, if we reduce the USAID function. To my knowledge, the staff has been radically cut from 14,000 to something like 290. But my understanding is that most of the grants, you know, it's $44 billion.
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At 14,000 employees, it's about a billion dollars of employee overhead a year. So 43 of the 44 billion presumably are still going to all these Frankensteinian monster projects. But you're going to be hit with that choice of do you want to win this? fighting dirty, or do you want to potentially lose fighting fair? And that's going to play out in every industrial sector, in every region.
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No, I'm not saying that. I'm saying that that is something... There's a micro fractal portion of that argument that is going to play out and is going to be a sort of siren song every step of the way at every regional desk at the State Department, at every National Security Council interagency coordination. And there are some lines that I believe we cannot ever cross.
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Like, for example, on the social media censorship side. The fact is, is it was according to Biden's foreign policy. Biden declared populism a threat to democracy. His State Department did, his USAID did. And so the best populists were popular online in Europe. So the White House had a whole information integrity working group to have the U.S. funded NGOs lobby populism.
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I guess getting back to this sort of why am I neutral rather than happy right now is because we are conducting open heart surgery on the vital organs of the American empire. And I am pro empire to the extent that it helps the homeland. I don't think we'd have a prosperous homeland without an empire. And the patient needs open heart surgery. It has to be done. I am a hundred percent, uh,
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the European Union effectively and push the different sort of influence and spindle groups comprising the regulatory body around the EU Digital Services Act to add more and more censorship regulations to target their political opponents. And what you're doing is these people could not do that at home because we have a First Amendment, but Europe doesn't have one.
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So if you declare populism to be an attack on democracy, then It's easier to win by advocating censorship. But that, to me, is a violation of fundamental American values. And not just censorship, but putting a lot of people in jail, using violence.
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And that's what USAID does. USAID's role with the prosecutors is unbelievable, the depth of that rabbit hole. But if I can just complete this point here, because I want to make sure I'm... There's a lot of nuance to what I'm trying to say here, which is that...
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People need, and especially at the policymaker and White House and House Senate Oversight Committee side, they need to get a sort of topographical map of the scope and spectrum of our dirty deeds done in the name of U.S. aid in order to make a triage assessment of of what kind of things can be dual purpose, because everything USAID is dual purpose. It has to be. Everything has to advance U.S.
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national interests in some respect, whether we're irrigating poppy fields or doing poverty relief programs or public health, something about doing that act has to advance some sort of U.S. national interest. Now, part of the reason it's been so difficult to oversee USAID or get answers from them is because they can't tell you those dual interests honestly in a public forum.
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Take this transgender dance festival in Bangladesh thing. Imagine a hearing on USAID and, you know, high-ranking Republican senator holds up, you know, you're funding Bangladesh, you know, you're funding transgender dance festivals and you're spending $2.7 million on this event. What possible U.S. interest does that serve?
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Can that USAID administrator on live television say to the world, well, that was a cynical, you know, we determined actually we were running a covert operation to overthrow that country's democratically elected government. And it actually wasn't about that, you know, the that at all. This was just a.
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Right. But saying that undermines the efficacy of all other USAID programs. No, I... So it becomes... I get it. Yeah, right. But...
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My concern is there's some things you can't do assassinations, you know, promoting Internet censorship, you know, full on regime change, you know, that mobilizes the ugliest assets in a society like terrorist groups or, you know, you know, extremist groups sort of thing. But there's a lot of squishiness in between that.
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And I'm not sure that the MAGA foreign policy establishment, being very new, not Marco Rubio, but Marco Rubio is newer to MAGA than the rest of the White House. And he was approved, what, 99 to 0 or something? In the Senate, he was the easiest one to pass. And he's And I think he's done a phenomenal job so far, by the way, if I can say that.
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But I feel like most of the people who came to the MAGA movement came to that for nationalistic reasons and don't... understand the interplay between the national and the global. And as they are finding that out, they are seeing how horrible the deeds are done of the global. And there is going to be this impulse to...
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destroy this thing completely destroy this thing and by the way i don't that's not even my principal fear because i i actually think that you know the other part of this is that i could very easily seeing see most of these grants being preserved simply through the trench state department yeah right simply through the state department i mean this is what happened with brexit everyone celebrate everyone who is pro-brexit celebrated brexit the day it happened that to me is like the closure of the usa building but the fact is is they effectively stopped brexit yeah
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agree with the decisions that have been made on policy so far on this. But I want to make sure, and I feel a great sense of duty and obligation to try as best I can to help identify the organ you're operating on, because in the zeal to carry out radical reforms, you can If you don't... Take out the wrong organs.
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because there's so many layers of resistance and implementation. And we're going to run into that here, which is why I'm using this time to be able to talk with you today on something that is... on this, which is that you're going to need to understand...
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The purpose for these things and the scope of it and be able to look at just how bad it is with clear eyes and not necessarily, I mean, have your rage boiling your anger moment. And when that clears, a fundamental... The reorganization of the way we carry out soft power is going to have to replace what we used to do if we don't do these dirty deeds anymore.
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Right. The only problem with that is... Trump represented something very different than that vision that was expressed by the Bush-Biden blob uniparty that had been there. And in countries that are not stable, elections completely change everything. When
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And this maybe gets to whether or not, you know, the problem is not necessarily just the institutions, but rather the the sort of legacy of momentum of all these previous political forces, because you could see a situation where then, OK, every time a MAGA type. Populist candidate wins an election.
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All of our foreign policy institutions switch radically in one direction, calling that American interests. And then a sort of internationalist blob, a globalist person wins an election. Then all the institutions switch all that. And so, you know, you can't you can't even build permanent structures in foreign countries or permanent networks because everything's so schizophrenic.
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Right. Politics stops at the war's edge, right? That's exactly right.
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Well, there's a distinction I think that's useful to draw here between public agencies paying for premium services of U.S. news websites that are foreign-facing. So, for example, the State Department pays for premium subscriptions to various news sites in order to be able to have access to all of the...
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New York Times or Politico, you know, to be able to get behind the paywall for their employees so that while they're doing their job of soft powerfulness abroad, they have the maximum amount of knowledge at their fingertips. It's the same thing with... But that's all fake.
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Well, that's right. But there's two forms of that. And I'm just also trying to educate people as they... go through this discovery process about the extent of it, because you're going to see it's everyone. But there are two forms of it. One is
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one is you know a hundred percent it's pernicious uh the other one has there's smoke but there's not necessarily fire and so when i say this the smoke not that obviously creates an incentive to um please your the people giving you these government procurements for example if the this is this is what i published for example about reuters you know the biden administration
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Yeah, or if you don't even know how the atriums, how the organ works, it's directionally correct to do the open heart surgery, but the patient can die on the table if you do it wrong. And... All of that has to be... This is just the beginning of the fight to reform this, in my view. But we are now in the arena, and a blow has been struck. This is, in my view, this week is really the first time...
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you know, government agencies, you know, tally something like $300 million to, to various Reuters sort of sister, sister company groups between their, between their news agency, between their, their Westlaw arm in between their, you know, sort of like forensic and like accounting services. But, you know, you, you see these big, like $60 million worth of grants from the justice department.
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And, you know, Now, the Justice Department's paying for Westlaw, you know, which is a Thomson Reuters thing. It still makes Reuters richer. But Reuters is writing hit pieces on the very people that the Justice Department is going after. And so it's softening up, you know, the enemies.
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And in fact, you know, Reuters won a Pulitzer Prize for its hit piece for its investigative series on malfeasance by Elon Musk and all of his portfolio companies, Tesla, X. Neuralink, SpaceX. And meanwhile, the Biden administration had 11 different regulatory agencies going after all of those.
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And so the media getting paid by the government was providing the ammunition for prosecutions and regulatory and disciplinary actions against the very stated targets of the government. And so you don't have a you don't have a stated agreement in that case, you have a very, very perverse incentive.
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But there are places where you have, where it's even worse because there's, again, there's sort of two forms that can take in the form of, you know, paying for services, but then also there's the affirmative sponsoring of media. So, you know, for example, And I believe it's the State Department, maybe USA, does pay like the Reuters News Agency for work abroad.
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But it's a lot less than the premium services. But more – like here's a really clean example that gets to the heart, I think, of what you're talking about with this domestic and how this all ties together. The world's largest consortium of investigative journalists is a group called the OCCRP. And you just think of it, the Corruption Reporting Project.
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They have, since the very beginning, been, they were initially, I believe, fully funded by the US government or they were the anchor fund. And now I believe half of their funds come from a combination of USAID and the State Department. And these are supposed to be independent journalists and they're investigative hit piece writers covering the topic of corruption.
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If there's something that's published on OCCRP's website or through their media network, it's never about the sky was blue today and someone saved a cat from a tree. No, it's all investigative hit piece work exposing some aspect of corruption in a country. And this was something that the US began funding
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Really, I mean, this type of work over a decade ago and really around this before OCCRP, around the time of Yugoslavia and whatnot, because we wanted to create a predicate to arrest the political enemies of the State Department in the region by cooking up corruption scandals that prosecutors can then use to arrest them on the basis of corruption.
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And so the problem is prosecutors don't know what to look for. And also, it's not necessarily politically feasible to prosecute somebody who's got a halo on them. So the halo has to be broken by hit piece news articles, by investigative journalists who often get proprietary access, for example –
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You know, the OCCRP, this corruption reporting project, has gotten very strange special access to hacked documents while they're being funded by, you know, what many believe to be a CIA front group, you know, in the form of USAID. You know, when they get special access to documents hacked from a computer and use that as the basis for the Panama Papers, well, you know, they're reporters.
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You can't ask them their source, but...
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the interests align these are the targets of of the u.s state department who happens to be funding them they are mercenary media for the state now what now i'm going to i want to mention two aspects of this scandal because it's this plays out everywhere but this one it's just it it's it's simultaneously clean and dirty enough that i feel like it's just an anecdote everyone should remember forever one directly on u.s politics and targeting trump as you mentioned
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OCCRP got their Eurasia, covers like seven or eight countries that they're supposed to dig up dirt of corrupt politicians and corrupt oligarchs in those territories. And they're Eastern Europe, $20 million for their Eastern European operation. And so that covers Ukraine. And so what did they do in 2019? They dug up dirt on Rudy Giuliani.
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And then that dirt ended up being used as part of the impeachment of Donald Trump in 2019. So this is the State Department funding mercenary media to then dig up dirt on high-profile U.S. citizens who, metastasizing into that very evidence being entered into the congressional record to successfully impeach the president of the United States.
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maybe in American history with few exceptions, maybe in the 60s and 70s, that the blob, the foreign policy establishment that impacts so much of domestic affairs and sometimes controls it, has had to answer to the people that fund it. This is a shot across the bow.
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So in that case, if there was no, you know, if there was no State Department USAID funding to OCCRP, they wouldn't have presumably had the capital to go out and dig up dirt on Rudy Giuliani. And then Americans wouldn't have been hearing, you know, that... These and they also, you know, wrote hit pieces on Paul Manafort and in his I believe his relations with Julian Assange.
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But basically, you had this foreign policy blob apparatus who hated Trump and wanted to take him out. And just like state and USAID were paying OCCRP to dig up dirt on foreign oligarchs and foreign presidents. The net result, and we don't know if there was any sort of, and I'm not saying that there wasn't necessarily a direct agreement to do that. I'm not privy to that. But the fact is, is.
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That is in effect what happened. The faction of the foreign policy establishment that most detested Trump and wanted him out, he was being impeached because of his foreign policy around Russia and Ukraine. And so USAID spending to journalists in Ukraine comes back to be used to impeach Trump.
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Well, we're in a sort of. You can you can see I can you can feel the. The passion around this this week and people sensing how much of their world has been usurped without their consent by these institutions. But just to complete this on the corruption reporting project that gets half of its funding from the State Department, USAID and the U.S.
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government has the formal yes, you know, yes, yay, yes, no about who they can bring on as staff. And they have to, you know, submit basically, you know, what they're going to do, you know, the year ahead. But on USAID.gov, the USAID website, before it went down this weekend, but I have all the receipts and I have all the PDFs on my social media feed.
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They have a whole document on this corruption reporting project and how amazing it has been for USAID's anti-corruption humanitarian work. And it shows the entry, it says $20 million, and here are the seven or eight countries they operate in. The next page has something which is just absolutely devastating to the concept of the firewall between our humanitarian aid organization and prosecutors.
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It's called, it's the accomplishment section. And there are four bullet points in this accomplishment section. Again, this is on USAID.gov publicly boasting about
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hit pieces for hire mercenary media to call people corrupt call citizens call so the first line item is over a billion dollars worth of assets seized so they're basically saying hey great return on investment we spent 20 million dollars we were able to seize a billion dollars but you did that by paying journalists to dig up dirt on people what if the journalists got it wrong
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We'll get to that, actually. That's bullet point four. But bullet point two was it was something like somewhere between 100 and 300 policy changes in different government and civil society institutions in these countries. So this USAID saying us paying for political black ops hit pieces generated hundreds of policy changes at the government level and, and at the institutional level there. Well,
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There have been so many tactics that they've been able to deploy to shift the course of domestic politics in order to ensure that their global vision stays the course. And there's been a blitzkrieg. I don't think they saw this coming.
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We're presupposing all those are good. I mean, they wouldn't be calling them an accomplishment unless the USA thought they were good. So they have a catalyzing change they want to do to the policies of foreign countries. And they think the way to do that is to pay mercenary media outlets to dig up dirt on people. and then use that as the predicate to force through policy changes.
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Then they have a section on all the different government officials that they got that were forced to resign because of their state's, USAID state-sponsored media. And I think the list was like six or seven, but they said, including a president and a prime minister. So they are bragging effectively in this document that, hey, what a bang for the buck.
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For $20 million, we were able to topple two governments. And then the fourth bullet point is the one that winds through this whole USA prosecutor story. It says 456 arrests and indictments generated on the basis of OCCRP's reporting.
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So this is the State Department bragging about the incredible volume of human beings whose lives and liberties have been taken from them because of sponsored hit pieces by the U.S. government. We don't know how many of those people were innocent. We don't know, you know, what even they were charged for. When you read that USAID.gov document on OCCRP, it doesn't even list their crimes.
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We just know it's a good thing that 456 people got arrested because we paid for.
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Right. And prosecutors then use that as the basis for a criminal indictment.
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Well, how many foreign leaders have you seen, other than maybe one I can think of, but how many foreign leaders have you seen who have been making impassioned floor speeches this week about the tens of thousands of people who are going to die if USAID leaves?
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I'm wondering where all the leaders of African countries have been this week or or, you know, low income Central Asian or Western Hemisphere countries are. Why do why are they all either silent or like in the case of El Salvador, relieved that this is happening? None of them are getting the money. In fact, many times USAID is forced on them as a condition.
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Yeah. Right. Oftentimes, USAID institutions are forced into their country or forced into different regions in their country as as part of a compliance measure that the State Department is imposing. You know, you need to have a certain level of human rights, you know, you know, monitoring or, you know, you're.
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your water levels have to have this, you know, certain percent purity or you need to be able to maintain, you know, this, you know, your energy development has to be this consistent with climate change or else, you know, we're going to, you know,
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destroy you in the in the you know with the with our trade relations or we're going to put sanctions on you unless you put our humanitarian aid organs in there and so boom just like that under the banner of aid we're in control of your energy infrastructure we're in control of your river systems yeah so you know i i think the reason that the only people that we really see who are
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Who are defending USAID right now are people here in the United States or in NATO that are directly or indirectly on the take or their or their donors or constituents are.
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Well, that's why I said donors and constituents. Right. Because those are like think about the congressman in those representing those districts. And, you know, you see that. That's exactly right. It's our own, you know, it's our own economies.
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And then, you know, the point I was making earlier is that, you know, you are going to have this sort of follow-on, trickle-down economic impact if many of our multinational corporations who form the bedrock of our, you know, stock exchanges and corporations Chamber of Commerce, if the dirty deeds that USAID does are cut out, are they still going to have as – will that impact their profitability?
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And so that's why I want to spend the time in the beginning just talking about that tension because – In the oil and gas case, like Trump has a plan around that drill baby drill, right? Like, you know, we might not need to fund transgender dance festivals in order to, you know, like you go to the CIA world book, you know, everyone go on CIA.gov and just look at every country.
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And the CIA has a world book of all of the strategic resources in every country. And so, you know, Burma is top strategic resource petroleum. OK, let's just. We don't need to necessarily have the sticky issue about whether or not we need to extract those foreign resources from Burma if the sitting government there doesn't, if we are drill baby drilling at home. Right.
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There's creative offsets that can be done to replace dirty tricks. You know, for example... Like, you know, with ISIS and the dynamics in Syria and Afghanistan and Pakistan, if there are ways to reconceptualize the way we do trade in the region or do creative, you know, joint partnerships or try to make inroads into other, you know, parts of the population that were not tested as robustly. Yeah.
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But you're going to need to think a lot more creatively about that when you don't have access to the dirty deeds done dirt cheap. And so that's just I feel like that. I just want to impress that point because I think a lot of MAGA Republicans are going to think that it's. it's easier than it is to reorganize that.
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And there's just a lot of surgery that needs to be done if you're going to cut that function out, which I totally support doing in nine out of 10 cases. But there's a...
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There's going to be a remnant and we need a doctrine that's cohesive and sellable to the American people because the problem was is we'd built such an elaborate labyrinth of lies that you couldn't even honestly talk about it with people. This is the whole oversight thing that I mentioned. This happened with the Zunzaneo scandal with USAID from 2009 to 2014-ish. There was...
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You know, USAID and NED were at the forefront of the Arab Spring and toppling democratically elected governments in Tunisia and Egypt and all over, you know, in these street color revolutions that were powered by digital diplomacy. You know, we've discussed this before, you know, where USAID was funding people, you know, to do youth engagement for how to use Facebook hashtags. Right.
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And, you know, and how to mobilize street protests so that everyone knows where to go and what kind of, you know, slogans and slang to use. And so, you know, they wanted to... Kind of like the George Floyd protests. Yeah, kind of like the George Floyd protests.
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My understanding is a lot of it has to do with the natural resources and the sort of Middle East, North Africa. I mean, the fact is Egypt is sort of the lip of Europe that way. But I think there's probably Middle Eastern politics that play into it as well. And it's a complicated picture. Yeah.
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Milton Friedman gives this example about the pencil. Have you ever seen this video? No. He talks about it in the context of libertarian economic theory. He says, look at this pencil. And he holds up a pencil, and it's got a lead tip and graphite and gum. And he goes, no, no single person in the world can make this pencil. The gum comes from trees in Malaysia.
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Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. At every level, at every year in the budget, there's going to be this fight.
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And the lead comes from some mine in Africa and the graphite comes from graphite miners in South America. And it's the magic of the market that all makes it possible. Everyone doing it for their own self-interest economic gain, but it creates this magical web of cooperation where everyone profits and that's how we get cheap pencils in the US. And
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I think what we're about to walk in on is the flip side of that, which is that... People have been lied to in this country where they've thought that they've been sold that this was humanitarian aid and co-signed it. And let me come back to this point about the pencil because maybe that'll just appear a little bit later in the story. And I'll just sort of hint at it now.
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I mean, now, and here's the question, how much more does the State Department get in the budget? You know, since, you know, I had like a $35 billion budget, now it's getting USAID's $44 billion. But what fraction of that is Trump going to... I've been saying here for a long time, because everyone talks about how USAID is funneling things to left-wing causes, right? And very easy to see that.
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But right now, the people who are trying to defend USAID are stuck between a rock and a hard place. They want to defend it on humanitarian grounds, and then they get totally deluged with all the ways that it has gone wrong and all the horrible things that's funding. So then they then turn to layer two.
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And we talked about the 97 percent of employees at USAID who donate to Democrats. But to me, the main issue here is the remnant of internationalist Republicans in Congress who can form a critical majority block with in the House or in the Senate in order to. get their way on this issue.
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You could see a situation where their own vested interests, their own constituents are so dependent on either USAID's funding or the results of USAID operations that they will side with the Democrats in order to inflict damage on the Trump White House budget vision. And so that's going to be a constant fight. And my
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What I'm hoping evolves over the next weeks and months is a moral north star for America first nationalist or populist or MAGA or centrist or simply reasonable liberal or center left folks where you have the current level of American prosperity. You remove that evil in the labyrinth of lies and Something needs to fill that gap.
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You know, like we talked about in the oil and gas spaces, drill, baby, drill for oil. Okay, but now do that for semiconductors. And now do that for every critical mineral. And...
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Maybe the answer is, I mean, what I've been trying to sell is that if you're going to do the dirty deeds and you do believe they're necessary for statecraft, then there has to at least be an obligation to be honest about them.
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You know, like I thought it was very honest, you know, when Lindsey Graham finally came out and said the strategic vision of the United States is the, you know, the $14 trillion worth of natural resources. Yeah.
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Relying on the humanitarian predicate for it allows voters to be deceived and for them to then turn around and feel totally hoodwinked when they find out that, hey, why are you paying for the unions, the media companies, the things that are acting here on the homeland? We have this tumor that we're removing from the body of the American project.
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But there was blood flowing into that and it's connected to all these arteries. The thing that I want to make sure happened that is midwifed appropriately is what are you changing about our foreign policy structure so that when you remove the tumor, the blood still flows in the way that you want it to. You're not ripping the heart out with open heart surgery.
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Well, look at the benefits to the stock price for Chevron and Exxon when the war broke out and the U.S. State Department strong-armed every country in Europe to divest from Russian gas, and they all were forced to buy expensive –
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uh north american lng uh their their stock prices went to the moon they they've had something like you know triple the you know the profits or something for for a certain period of months uh you know following that and reap these windfall benefits um and you know the the this is we're sort of confronting the ghost of ronald reagan here because you know the the the
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The reason you do that for statecraft purposes is trickle-down economics. What's good for ExxonMobil is good for the American citizens. And so if so, a dirty deed done to advance, you know... Big oil, big ag, big tech, whatever it is, anything that's good for them is good for us. And so anything that the U.S.
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This is sort of like Lindsey Graham defending our operations in Ukraine when it was, you know, we need to do this for democracy, democracy. And then we say, okay, well, you canceled elections. You know, you're... you know, there are all these non-democratic things that are happening.
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government can do in the form of overt or covert diplomacy or covert influence in the region that tips the scales in favor of those – U.S. corporate interests or U.S. multinational interests will ultimately trickle down to the people itself. I mean, that's the logic. I understand.
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Take the Pepsi coup in 1973. We overthrew the government of Chile. We toppled the Allende government. And 30 years later, 35 years later, files were declassified that showed that the chairman of the Pepsi-Cola company had lobbied the Secretary of State that U.S. national interests in the form of Pepsi-Cola bottling operations were going to be devastated if INDA was allowed one bottle
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It was allowed to remain in power. And I forget if he was nationalizing some element. Yeah. But basically, you know, Pepsi had these bottling operations there. It was going to massively, you know, tank their capacity to produce the cans for Pepsi bottles. And so. a meeting was organized between, uh, it was like, it was, it was the, it was the CIA director at the time.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And, and the chairman of Pepsi Cola, everyone can look up the guardian article on this. Just type in Pepsi, Ku, Chile. And, uh, So the chairman of Pepsi and the head of the Central Intelligence Agency have a planning meeting about the best way to overthrow a government in order to preserve Pepsi's profits.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And he goes, okay, okay, layer two of my defense is there's $14 trillion worth of natural resources under the soil there. So, you know, having it be a U.S. vassal state is advantage to us because then we can exploit those $14 trillion worth of resources. I mean, that's what's implied there, right? Why would Americans benefit from Ukrainians exploiting that $14 trillion?
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And they even bring in to the meeting, the meeting minutes show, they bring in basically the State Department's media guy for the region who ran a web of print media and radio stations. so that the media guy could be brought into the propaganda that was being co-generated effectively by the CIA and Pepsi. Well, I mean, this plays out everywhere as multinational corporations Can benefit from U.S.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
government pressure on foreign companies applied to that.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
long-term strength you know selling all your industries to china at 40 cents on a dollar you know clearly makes a small number of people rich but it's like it's not a long-term plan for prosperity actually well you know there's not good at this in a way it's a miracle that this is happening because it's forcing us to confront all the related issues as we put together a more cohesive vision for u.s soft power which is that that reaganite style trickle-down economics 1980s thing is
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
may have made sense when those corporations were American corporations with American manufacturing facilities employing American labor. But now these are nominally, you know, American companies, but there's no trickle down because it's not like that's substantially increasing American jobs when they're going overseas to East Asia. They don't provide American jobs in the first place.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Right, or it's not, you know, providing, you know,
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
enhancing the security of our supply chains because it's you know it's giving more more for our factories because we don't have the factories anymore and so trump is doing all this in tandem you know he's trying to onshore things he's trying to bring back domestic manufacturing and some of that may be how we approach statecraft which is that you know the kinds of entities that we consider to be u.s national interest are the ones that you know have a certain amount of american investment
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
You can't be a sort of American in name only and have so much of your workforce in China or have so much of your operations. I mean, there may be a sort of – we need to sort of have a cohesive vision of what –
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Now, by the way, that's not a knock on Ukraine, but you simply saw that shift happen When, you know, as it got harder and harder to defend it on the basis of democracy promotion, the mask had to slip in order to defend it at the deeper level. To let people in, okay, here's why we're really doing it. And every USAID program operates that way. It is...
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
So am I being crazy? Oh, not at all. I mean, there's a million direct examples of this. There's something that you've brought up several times so far around Black Lives Matter.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Right. No. And there's a few pieces to that. So first, Black Lives Matter is, you know, one of the main NGOs that serves as the Black Lives Matter clearinghouse is the Tide Center and the Tides Foundation. And USAID gave the Tide Center a $27 million grant. Wow.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Yeah. And now nominally that grant is for the Tide Center institutions to solicit secure concrete investments from foreign countries on issues related to U.S. national interest. So basically the USAID has deputized this, you know, group that's... you know, in the center of the nest around Black Lives Matter to secure commitments from foreign governments from a formal U.S. government agency.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
They're deputized to act as a sort of long arm of the State Department and they're getting $27 million for it. And by the way, when they get Actually, before I go deeper on the Black Lives Matter stuff, because there's a lot there. I've been calling this the Smithmont problem for USAID.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
We had a Smithmont Act from 1948 until 2013 with the modernization under Obama that effectively got rid of it that prohibited foreign propaganda or fake news stories intended for foreign audiences from being circulated here at home. They got rid of that. With USAID, it's even worse because as bad as it is for propaganda, USAID has the Smithmont problem for financing and operations.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
USAID can provide money to international institutions or to NGOs for their work abroad, but then they turn around and now they have all this money. And they now are wealthy and powerful and deeply ingrained, highly pedigreed institutions because of all their money from state and aid and and Ned. But there's nothing blocking them from also operating on U.S. soil.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
So, you know, give an example of like.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
there's a you know this this for-profit private sector censorship mercenary firm called news guard and got a 750 000 pentagon contract to uh you know help the pentagon trace the information for fingerprints of russian mis and disinformation okay maybe there's a strategic interest in the pentagon uh mapping out pro-russia narratives uh in in regions around the world But NewsGuard targets U.S.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
citizens. NewsGuard has, you know, the former head of NATO on its board.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Yes, yeah, of course. But they, whether or not the grant is, Is for like they don't have there's a lot of domestic censorship grants that the Biden administration gave to pump these things up domestically, like the National Science Foundation does a lot. But in this case, it's what you're doing is you're making the institution more powerful. You're buffering its revenues.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
You're padding its profit margins. So it's now more powerful to be able to take you on, even if the grant isn't for that money. And so it bleeds into it. And this happens with every institution USAID works for. And when you, again, coming back to the fact that USAID is at the heart, you know, USAID is the swing player between the State Department, the CIA, and the Pentagon.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
It's a sort of somber moment, actually, more than anything. And I found myself very reflective this week and hit by the weight of history of it, if that makes sense. And there's a lot to this. I mean, a lot of people have said, aren't you so happy? You've been fighting for this so long and now it's happening. And so they're expecting cartwheels and spiking footballs.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And it works with all three of those. And, you know, you never know when you see a USAID program, which of those three ops is being run. But you know for certain it's one of those three. You don't know if it's to advance, you know, a stated State Department diplomacy priority in the region. You don't know if it's being used in order to advance a U.S.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
getting back to this rock in the hard place analogy is that they want to say it's humanitarian aid, but it's clearly done so much harm in so many places. It's doing such terrible things, funding the Wuhan lab, you know, not to mention, you know, the whole rest of the USA Truman show, but then they go, okay, okay, well, it's US soft power. It advances US strategic interests.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
national security interest in the region, or you don't know if it's being used to advance an unstated State Department foreign policy goal being pursued by the CIA and it's functioning as an intelligence. And I'll give you some examples of this. In 2021, I've talked about this a few times, but
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Under Mark Milley and President Joe Biden, the first special forces vision statement prospectus, pages 16, 17, everyone can look this up. It's a public document, government document you can find online. And it presents a way to synchronize the psychological operations and civil military affairs work that the special forces does
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
with the different foreign policy agencies who can play supporting roles. So they give an example of, they're trying to block the Chinese from buying a port in China and the African, I'm sorry. In Africa. In Africa. The African government doesn't want to go through with it. I'll just try to make this as simple as possible.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Basically what ends up happening is the State Department can't get the African government to cooperate. and agree to cancel this port construction. And so they need to buy time before the port is completed for the State Department to have more carrots and sticks, more leverage to be able to force the African government to relent and cancel it.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
That is, they need either more appropriations and allocations to be able to bribe them with, or they need more... Sticks to be able to punish them with, you know, leverage from from from something harm that's being done that they can offer to make the pain stop.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And so so this is what the special forces document envisions envisions, which is that the role of the special forces in that in that scenario in the name of great power competition and special forces role in countering, you know, peer competitor from from China.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And they also argue there's a national security basis because this would give China – it was a West African hypothetical country, so it would give China access to the Atlantic. But what they did in this scenario, and they war-gamed this all out, is how they would effectively induce race riots to get the African workers out.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
to all go on strike and boycott and take to the streets and protest against the Chinese business interests. This would also devastate the country economically. It would effectively bring the, you know, it would also humiliate the Chinese business interests in the area. And so it would create this international scandal.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
It would scandalize the pork construction and the destabilized economic state would allow the U.S. ambassador to walk back in and say, hey, you know, you know, all this pain can stop, just cancel the poor construction type thing. But what's really interesting is in the special forces perspectives. Can you imagine writing that? Like let's, let's incite race riots.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And they, well, they, their quote was inflame racial tensions or inflame tensions. Can you imagine? And so what they did is, I think it was inflame tensions, but they explicitly say, you know, it's Africans versus the Chinese there. And, and what they did is the, the, the role of USAID in this special operations scenario,
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
literally printed, you know, by the U S government was that USAID would, would swoop into the scene and provide job fairs. U S taxpayers would, they do job fairs in the exact region where the, you know, rioters and protesters were striking in order because they wouldn't, the, the special forces concern was that the people they needed in the streets in this, you know, uh, protest, uh,
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
To destabilize the country would not want to would not were too poor to leave their jobs. They would not want to go on strike in these Chinese owned factories and businesses. So they needed a replacement source of income. And that was where USAID came into the operation. USAID would do job fairs. And so the African.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
protesters would be subsidized to do that protest street protest destabilization activity and don't need to worry about whether or not you know it's going to cost them their jobs because they're now on the payroll of USAID and but that was a special forces operation and And you see this with everything USAID does.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And so you say, oh, okay, so it's not aid? And then it becomes very schizophrenic to defend this thing because it's a labyrinth of lies. USAID's access and its reputation completely depends on its perception as being a kind of quasi-charity, even though, you know, charity is nowhere to be found. It's a U.S., foreign policy instrument. Aid isn't even in the name.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
But, you know, to come back to this, you know, thing on, you know, we were talking about, I guess, BLM and some of this domestic, you know, foreign thing is, sorry, if you want to drill down on that and ask me a question. But what I'm saying is USAID plays this military role as well with support assistance programs.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Well, because once that when they defined populism as a threat to democracy because it undermines public faith and confidence in democratic institutions, they were able to effectively categorize the sitting president of the United States as an attack on democracy. And
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Good thing we're democracy promotion programs because we are the white blood cells of the immune system to stop the virus of threats to democracy.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Of course, but they say we need... Democrat institutions to provide the bumper cars to stop demagoguery.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Well, she winds up at the Center for Information Resilience, which is a London-based, basically a British statecraft organ. She had to file a FAR registration. She became a registered agent of the United Kingdom for, you know, for her work.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Yes, yes, they were, yes, recipients of USAID money. Although I believe she, I think she wrote that she left there several months ago sometime in 2024. But the fact is, is it's Still that same network.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Well, I actually think there's there's there's layers of sophistication to to Nina. And oh, is that true? Yeah, I do. I do think so. And I don't have any personal extra. I mean, she's written a lot of. not flattering things about me. And I've pointed out what I consider to be massive conflicts of interest when the entire field of professional internet censorship, that is, you get paid
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
you pay your mortgage with paychecks that come from your job censoring the internet. I mean, I fundamentally do not believe that Nina's field, that this disinformation of censoring citizens in our own country And leave aside, you know, the sort of, you know, maybe more nuanced issue about whether there's a role of countering foreign propaganda and how robust that is.
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The fact is, is, you know, what was done here was just straight up saying that domestic misinformation is a threat to democracy. And so the U.S. government should be, you know, should play the task of censoring its own people through this whole society network. But. You have I mean, there's so fundamentally, I don't believe that that job should exist.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And it is part of what I consider to be my my purpose in life to try to bring freedom to the Internet. And to the extent that that that field exists as a profession, you know, that is those those two things are in conflict. And then, you know, the other part of it is the conflict of interest. Right. When when.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
you can see how these very censorship institutions that are being funded by USAID, and so many of them are, it's unbelievable. I mean, USAID has a formal censorship program. I believe we've even talked about it before, but now I think people are starting to appreciate the significance of it.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And in fact, its website just went down a few days ago, and it's under, I believe, an extraordinary amount of scandal, which is that these organizations USAID takes taxpayer money and creates lobbyists for more USAID because all the people who... It creates a conflict of interest between their own personal piggy banks and what the actual national interest of the country is.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
I've said this many times, but it's the Agency for International Development. And when you see aid, it's your mind playing tricks on you.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
If your whole field is getting funding in significant part from USAID, well, then if you want to really make it in this world, you have a... moral hazard, a perverse incentive to become a tiny little lobbyist to explain why it is that censoring the internet is essential to U.S. national interest and to sell a whole
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
ideology and a whole completely different vision of what our country even is and what we're even fighting for. Because the more that our public grants and contracts, the more that our procurements, the more that the USAID piggy bank funds that, the bigger the pie of that field gets.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And so, and so you, but you see this in everything that USAID touches, you know, from the, from the media to the social media, to the universities, to the, to the unions, to the anti-corruption, you know, prosecutor work to the humanitarian work around, uh, you know, in, in drug zones and, and in, in, in paramilitary zones.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And, and so it's, it's, you know, I think it's what Elon would call a self-licking ice cream cone. And, uh, You know, the ice cream's gone bad, but with the BLM thing, it gets very strange because USAID is a professional rent-a-riot organizer. I mean, leave aside the countless documented cases of USAID rent-a-riots from...
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
You know, as we mentioned, the Arab Spring, which we, you know, we went over the rent to riots there. USA pumped $1.2 billion into the region, you know, during that period. We have literal USA documents explicitly doing operational planning to create smart mobs and people to take to the streets and riots. You know, you see in Georgia, you saw it in Belarus in 2020.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
It's anytime there are... What about Minneapolis? Well... This is where it gets interesting in the role of these foreign policy institutions and their domestic, you know, things. So there's one other. So I want to mention one quick adjacency before we go into that, which is around USAID funding to the to the Tide Center, which I mentioned, you know, has this Black Lives Matter adjacency. But.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
The Tide Center is also the fiscal sponsor of a group called Fair and Just Prosecutions, which is the central group that manages, at least according to reports from, I believe, Daily Wire and write-ups in the, I think it was Federalist and such, but I believe it was a Daily Wire investigation, oh, based on Media Research Center report, that Fair and Just Prosecutions is a, you know, bill themselves as sort of left-wing progressive criminal justice advocacy group.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Right. Well, I mean, you know, I mean, I'm sure in the Ronald Reagan building, you know, but how it's colloquially known, I mean, and how it's described to the voters, it's described as humanitarian assistance. And you go, okay, well, you know, and we can get into the depth of the scandals, but...
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And they are media research center published a long report, you know, essentially saying that they were the managing control group of Soros prosecutors, because what they do is all these source. Now, they don't fund the Soros. They don't fund the election campaigns of the at least to my knowledge of the Soros prosecutors like the Open Society Foundation does. But what they what they do is they.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
They fund, they manage, you know, they get the prosecutors, the source prosecutors to sign pledges about what they're going to, you know, what they're not going to, you know, to not enforce certain laws that are on the books in the region. You know, they pressure them to prosecute certain political targets. They give them social media hashtags and talking points.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
They help write their press releases. They meet with them every, you know, every week. And, you know, they, they're, it's, you know, prosecutors are, You know, at least according to this reporting, which has some pretty damning, you know, inside documents to, you know, to to make this case.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
But you basically have prosecutors being managed by this shady NGO who is effectively, you know, puppeteering these. who are dependent on continued funding for their election campaigns and continued election funding for their future careers. You know, what's, you know, AG, Attorney General, you know, the joke is, you know, it's short for aspiring governor because, you know, so it's a path.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
You want to cultivate these donor networks forever. But the Tithe Center, which gets $27 million from USAID just on basically, you know, two grants alone,
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
That's what needs to happen. For example, you can't share the same corporate entity. You shouldn't be able to, you know, if you're, I mean, imagine if Raytheon, who is paid by the U.S. military to drop deadly, lethal, you know, munitions clusters on foreign countries and your professional job is killing people. And they were getting billions of dollars from the U.S. Pentagon.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And they opened up a, you know, a Raytheon, you know, and Raytheon started creating a new line of business for domestic countering misinformation projects where they monitor the Internet for COVID skepticism or, you know, climate change, you know, denial. Right. You would look at that and you would say Raytheon is getting paid by the military to kill people overseas.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And I know their grants, you know, their contracts with the Pentagon are not for that work. But they have more muscle and money to play with. They're being pumped up by steroids administered overseas. Exactly. I mean, you saw that with the Bangladesh case, too, by the way.
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I guess the fundamental feeling that I have right now is this is going to get a lot worse as people go through this self-discovery process of what's happening. We were talking a little bit earlier where I mentioned eight years ago when I was writing my little book,
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
You know, the when the person who is now the minister of foreign affairs in Bangladesh after the coup, by the way, the the new the new head of state, there is a Clinton Global Initiative fellow. But the the the foreign minister was brought in by USAID for for formal training on countering misinformation. And, you know, who who led that?
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
It was a another, you know, State Department USAID contractor, a group called PolitiFact. It was the executive director of PolitiFact who does – who writes hit pieces on you and me that were conspiracy theorists for talking about January 6th.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And they are acting as an instrument of statecraft to get money from our paychecks to do international work to train foreign journalists and foreign ministers – how to censor or stop the spread of information the State Department doesn't like. But now their margins are padded by that.
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Right. Well, I'll tell you what we did in the financing space. And I remember being a corporate lawyer and watching that evolve and play out. Yeah. We had things like, you know, these anti, we had anti terrorist financing, you know, OFAC style laws that prevented laundering, you know, uh, and, uh,
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Even if you could technically do it, you didn't want to risk it because there were criminal penalties for doing it and there were financial penalties. And so in something like this, imagine if the grantees had to pay treble damages in the amount of their grant if they tripped one of those foreign domestic firewalls.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
If their grant was for $30 million and they have to pay – they're liable for up to $90 million, if a U.S. court finds that they violated the USAID Smith-Munt Act – I mean, this is something that Congress could put –
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in you know put in today i mean you could you could add criminal penalties but you need right now there's no penalty whatsoever the only penalty is that it is that people might find out and it might cause a political scandal and it might make the usa grant coordinator um less likely to give you the next grant in the future where's the clawback where's the where's the the restitution damages uh
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
People shouldn't maybe even be able to sue the U.S. government body administering the grant for for failing to do oversight of the NGO receiving that money. You might create a cause, a private cause of action against the State Department or whatever new form USAID costs that can be done legislatively in the message that I mean, first of all, that would that would go.
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A huge distance to being able to deal with this problem because you're going to have this problem, whether USAID exists as an outside as an independent agency or whether the State Department just inherits a USAID herpes infection and just lives with it inside the agency.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
book attempt to try to explain everything that was happening in internet censorship and I felt like I had to explain all these other tectonic plates of American society and global affairs just to understand who and what and why they're censoring the internet.
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Thank you for saying that. And it wouldn't have been possible without you as well. I do just want to clarify. I don't believe that I have mixed feelings. I 100% endorse directionally and technically everything that I've seen so far. But I appreciate the weight of the moment and that you are dealing with something much more delicate than simply, you know.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Thank you.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
But, you know, I would spend my whole day in USAspending.gov, you know, to the exclusion of everything else, friends, family, a social life, and just going through that, this can't be true. This can't be true. Oh, my God, it is. Oh, my God, it is.
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Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And there's a sort of five stages of depression that plays out as you discover it yourself going into these grant databases and seeing the receipts with your eyes like that. Because that's what I've seen on my newsfeed this week. It's been just hundreds of people, all with huge megaphones who are just... Spending their day hearing about, oh, wow, there's all this corruption at USAID.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
Let me plug it into the search database. Let me fish around a little bit. Oh, here's what I found. And now everyone's contributing to this common knowledge, which is really amazing. But I still feel already faith has been shaken. But there are layers to this that I think are going to truly shock everyone.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
people when they begin to try to put their their minds around it and i i believe fundamentally in u.s soft power i believe in soft power projection i believe there is a role for projects in foreign countries that have a dual function of helping the people there and helping secure import-export markets for us, helping secure natural resources, helping secure U.S.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And that's not how I feel really at all because... The task here was to break the halo of this angel that turned into an angel of death. I don't think we've had the success of the 20th century without having a soft power influence arm. I think this is how we add cheap gas and affordable homes and middle-class prosperity and export markets for our manufactured goods here. The task is to...
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
national security goals in the region. There is a role for that. And I just... I feel that many came into this movement around MAGA and nationalism because they cared about their schools and the woke agenda in their schools. They cared about their streets and their neighborhoods and whether they were safe. And they cared about corruption from the U.S. president or their local representatives.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
They never had to think about Pakistan, Bangladesh, Estonia, Tanzania. They never had to think about how you make a pencil and how the goods and services that they were... give them the advantage life that we have in the United States versus other countries depends on the battering ram of this blob apparatus.
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
And so as they learn more and more, the depths of depravity of the blob, I am, I myself am in a hard sort of between a rock and a hard place where more than anyone, maybe in, in,
The Tucker Carlson Show
Mike Benz Takes Us Down the USAID Rabbit Hole (It’s Worse Than You Think)
that i know uh have been have been spearheading and trying to lead the charge to to break the blob's halo um now i'm i'm in a sort of curious position where i feel i'd be remiss if i didn't spend this time at least fleshing out that i i don't believe that it should be