Michelle Johnson

Yes.

Yes.

Yeah, absolutely. So when they brought out this large piece of carpet, obviously people sitting in the general audience couldn't really see it, but the judge allowed the jury to stand up so they could fully evaluate the carpet, get a good look at it, the entire duration that the carpet was pulled out. Michelle Johnson, the CSI

witness who was on the stand testimony, she said that this carpet, the entirety of the stain was just over five feet. And then there's the one main stain, which is kind of just smack dab in the a very substantial stain there. And the reason why the crime scene investigators did not pick up on this the first time that they entered Jason Chen's apartment and did their initial search

was because his bed was over this portion and due to the poor lighting in his apartment, they were not able to pick up on this carpet and see that there was a stain because this stain actually seeped through the carpet into the under layer all the way to the floor. So it Obviously, it seeped through multiple layers, which shows just how substantial of a stain this was.

So when the apartment complex, they said that they had to completely renovate Mr. Chen's entire apartment because the damage was just too substantial. There was too much cleanup. They said it would just be easier to kind of demolish everything and restart with that unit.

So when they, during that process, they obviously were moving everything out, moving it around and came upon this stain and they immediately stopped what they were doing, called the investigators and the investigators requested that the apartment stop all their work until they could get back out there and kind of assess this. And obviously, this is a large piece of evidence.

So thankfully, the apartment complex did speak up when they saw something.