Meredith Whittaker

I started seeing the balance sheet. I started seeing the capital that was involved in running infrastructure. And I remember around the time I met you, minus like maybe over a decade ago.

Yeah, aging is weird. But I remember I used to have these sort of smuggled balance sheets I took out of Google, like printed out, which showed how much the... uplink bandwidth and the infrastructure and power costs you were for MLAB. And I would be showing this to all these civil society funders being like, you can't be funding 250 K. It costs $40 million a year in bandwidth just to do MLAB.

Yeah, aging is weird. But I remember I used to have these sort of smuggled balance sheets I took out of Google, like printed out, which showed how much the... uplink bandwidth and the infrastructure and power costs you were for MLAB. And I would be showing this to all these civil society funders being like, you can't be funding 250 K. It costs $40 million a year in bandwidth just to do MLAB.

Yeah, aging is weird. But I remember I used to have these sort of smuggled balance sheets I took out of Google, like printed out, which showed how much the... uplink bandwidth and the infrastructure and power costs you were for MLAB. And I would be showing this to all these civil society funders being like, you can't be funding 250 K. It costs $40 million a year in bandwidth just to do MLAB.

Like you guys don't understand the economics of this because we're still in the era of like civic tech and it's all we need is a good idea. Right. And I think I was really lucky to get sensitized to the political economy and

Like you guys don't understand the economics of this because we're still in the era of like civic tech and it's all we need is a good idea. Right. And I think I was really lucky to get sensitized to the political economy and

Like you guys don't understand the economics of this because we're still in the era of like civic tech and it's all we need is a good idea. Right. And I think I was really lucky to get sensitized to the political economy and

And the fact that we're talking about infrastructure, capital, network effects, economies of scale and not some kind of brilliant idea that just ephemerally transformed our world and that our side just needs to wait to have one of those to get our turn.

And the fact that we're talking about infrastructure, capital, network effects, economies of scale and not some kind of brilliant idea that just ephemerally transformed our world and that our side just needs to wait to have one of those to get our turn.

And the fact that we're talking about infrastructure, capital, network effects, economies of scale and not some kind of brilliant idea that just ephemerally transformed our world and that our side just needs to wait to have one of those to get our turn.

It does, yeah.

It does, yeah.

It does, yeah.

It was a project. It was Derek Slater, Vince Cerf, Stephen Stewart, some Sasha Meinrath at Open Tech Institute,

It was a project. It was Derek Slater, Vince Cerf, Stephen Stewart, some Sasha Meinrath at Open Tech Institute,

It was a project. It was Derek Slater, Vince Cerf, Stephen Stewart, some Sasha Meinrath at Open Tech Institute,

Yeah, some old internet guys and me. Let's say the elders of the internet.

Yeah, some old internet guys and me. Let's say the elders of the internet.

Yeah, some old internet guys and me. Let's say the elders of the internet.

And the lady with the couch. And the conceit there, which felt really simple to me at the time, is everyone is buzzing about net neutrality. And I was a Kool-Aid drinker. I still think the value underlying that kind of mythology, let's say, like, yes, we should, you know, we should not have one gatekeeper deciding, you know, which news source, right?