Max Howell

On that front, I don't think we'll get egg on our face. But who knows? Mud in your eye, egg in your face, yeah. One thing I've certainly learned during this project is there's going to be people that really just don't like it. don't like what you're doing and they're going to be angry no matter what you do. When you're doing things that are genuinely new,

On that front, I don't think we'll get egg on our face. But who knows? Mud in your eye, egg in your face, yeah. One thing I've certainly learned during this project is there's going to be people that really just don't like it. don't like what you're doing and they're going to be angry no matter what you do. When you're doing things that are genuinely new,

You've got to cross your fingers that you're doing it right and see what the community thinks in the end.

You've got to cross your fingers that you're doing it right and see what the community thinks in the end.

Like, why did you do this? So, yeah, we're going to be quite transparent. As transparent as possible, we're going to be open sourcing most of the... Probably all of it by the end of the year, actually. Even the website, who cares?

Like, why did you do this? So, yeah, we're going to be quite transparent. As transparent as possible, we're going to be open sourcing most of the... Probably all of it by the end of the year, actually. Even the website, who cares?

But my personal reason for doing this is because three years ago, I was in between full-time work, trying to work on open source once again, and I looked to see if anyone had come up with something that could... pay me to work on it full time for, you know, this time. This time. I've tried things in the past, like Patreon.

But my personal reason for doing this is because three years ago, I was in between full-time work, trying to work on open source once again, and I looked to see if anyone had come up with something that could... pay me to work on it full time for, you know, this time. This time. I've tried things in the past, like Patreon.

Spent half my time marketing myself rather than writing code when I was trying to get that Patreon working. And there wasn't anything new. Everything treats open source like all it is is charity. All you can expect is a cup of coffee and five bucks. So I decided that maybe it had to be me who fixed this problem. And I went down the rabbit hole finding new ideas, trying to find new ideas about it.

Spent half my time marketing myself rather than writing code when I was trying to get that Patreon working. And there wasn't anything new. Everything treats open source like all it is is charity. All you can expect is a cup of coffee and five bucks. So I decided that maybe it had to be me who fixed this problem. And I went down the rabbit hole finding new ideas, trying to find new ideas about it.

And it was a moment of inspiration one evening. I've had some weed. And I realized that crypto smart contracts and that package manager data, that dependency information, I could use that. I could do something with that. Maybe that would be the solution. So we're going to see. MARK MANDELMANN, We're going to see.

And it was a moment of inspiration one evening. I've had some weed. And I realized that crypto smart contracts and that package manager data, that dependency information, I could use that. I could do something with that. Maybe that would be the solution. So we're going to see. MARK MANDELMANN, We're going to see.

When? When? Yeah, so hopefully by the end of the year, maybe early next year. And how long will it take? Everything's built. Everything's ready. Well, why aren't we hitting go? It turns out crypto's got a lot of legal red tape. Yeah. As you might expect. Yeah. So, yeah.

When? When? Yeah, so hopefully by the end of the year, maybe early next year. And how long will it take? Everything's built. Everything's ready. Well, why aren't we hitting go? It turns out crypto's got a lot of legal red tape. Yeah. As you might expect. Yeah. So, yeah.

Well, you're totally right that a lot of developers are very anti-crypto, and so that's been a battle from the start. Hacker News hate me even more than usual. But inside the crypto sphere, it's very popular. 1.7 million signups is pretty unheard of.

Well, you're totally right that a lot of developers are very anti-crypto, and so that's been a battle from the start. Hacker News hate me even more than usual. But inside the crypto sphere, it's very popular. 1.7 million signups is pretty unheard of.

And what it turns out to be the case, to my surprise, I've spoken to over 300 open source devs over the last three years, just for market research reasons, a lot of them don't care if it's crypto or not. They like crypto in the respect that they like technology. Open source devs aren't as anti-crypto as the others, the rest of the devs.

And what it turns out to be the case, to my surprise, I've spoken to over 300 open source devs over the last three years, just for market research reasons, a lot of them don't care if it's crypto or not. They like crypto in the respect that they like technology. Open source devs aren't as anti-crypto as the others, the rest of the devs.

And yeah, I think we have a reasonable chance of showing that crypto is just a technology. We're not a scam. There's nothing scammy about what's going on with us at all. They'll see that once we've gone live and no one's, you know, rugging the token or anything like that. Right. And, you know, it's all open. That's one of the beautiful things about Web3.

And yeah, I think we have a reasonable chance of showing that crypto is just a technology. We're not a scam. There's nothing scammy about what's going on with us at all. They'll see that once we've gone live and no one's, you know, rugging the token or anything like that. Right. And, you know, it's all open. That's one of the beautiful things about Web3.