Mark Divine
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You know, it's like two in the morning and we're just stroke, stroke, stroke. And the guy in front of me, literally his paddle slipped out of his hand and started floating past me and I grabbed it and his arms kept moving. You know, he kept stroking. Yeah. So, I took the paddle, I just smacked him over the head with it and said, hey, dummy, here's your paddle. He's like, holy cow.
You know, it's like two in the morning and we're just stroke, stroke, stroke. And the guy in front of me, literally his paddle slipped out of his hand and started floating past me and I grabbed it and his arms kept moving. You know, he kept stroking. Yeah. So, I took the paddle, I just smacked him over the head with it and said, hey, dummy, here's your paddle. He's like, holy cow.
I didn't even know I lost that thing. A little bit, you know, longer, a little bit further along, I saw this massive wave well up in front of me and I'm like, water, water. That's what we used to say, you know, when we go through surf passage and a huge wave came up. And so, I ducked down and everyone looks at me like, what are you doing? I said, duck, water.
I didn't even know I lost that thing. A little bit, you know, longer, a little bit further along, I saw this massive wave well up in front of me and I'm like, water, water. That's what we used to say, you know, when we go through surf passage and a huge wave came up. And so, I ducked down and everyone looks at me like, what are you doing? I said, duck, water.
And then I look up and there was nothing there. I'm like, so your mind, you know, our mind, the body first goes and then the mind goes. And that's kind of the whole point here is that the mind starts to play tricks on you. And it's your cognitive mind, which is, you know, the reality is fraying. And the structures that you used to hang on to is real are starting to shift and to fray.
And then I look up and there was nothing there. I'm like, so your mind, you know, our mind, the body first goes and then the mind goes. And that's kind of the whole point here is that the mind starts to play tricks on you. And it's your cognitive mind, which is, you know, the reality is fraying. And the structures that you used to hang on to is real are starting to shift and to fray.
And so, you can't rely on that anymore. And so, that was a great lesson for me too. I was like, I can't I can't rely on the way my mind, the way I used to perceive my mind working because it's not working that way for me under stress. It's not working right under stress.
And so, you can't rely on that anymore. And so, that was a great lesson for me too. I was like, I can't I can't rely on the way my mind, the way I used to perceive my mind working because it's not working that way for me under stress. It's not working right under stress.
Yeah. I mean, that's the Holy Grail. So, in the seals, it's just through these intense experiences that you like crack open your body-mind system and reorganize it in ways that I don't even think anyone really understands. I don't even think the seals understand it. They just know it works. That's why they'll never give up Hell Week. They've had so many...
Yeah. I mean, that's the Holy Grail. So, in the seals, it's just through these intense experiences that you like crack open your body-mind system and reorganize it in ways that I don't even think anyone really understands. I don't even think the seals understand it. They just know it works. That's why they'll never give up Hell Week. They've had so many...
you know, kind of peacetime attempts to get rid of the whole week program. Cause they think it's kind of inhumane and, you know, then they can maybe too hard. And, you know, there have been people who've died in the training and stuff, but very rare actually. And they're from natural causes. Like, you know, someone dies of a heart attack or they,
you know, kind of peacetime attempts to get rid of the whole week program. Cause they think it's kind of inhumane and, you know, then they can maybe too hard. And, you know, there have been people who've died in the training and stuff, but very rare actually. And they're from natural causes. Like, you know, someone dies of a heart attack or they,
They have an accident and they drown, but no one's died from exhaustion that I'm aware of in Hell Week. So anyways, what I'm saying is the SEALs just, that the training is just brilliant and it's evolved over, you know, 60 years to really prepare SEALs for the most rigorous challenges, missions, and environments in the world.
They have an accident and they drown, but no one's died from exhaustion that I'm aware of in Hell Week. So anyways, what I'm saying is the SEALs just, that the training is just brilliant and it's evolved over, you know, 60 years to really prepare SEALs for the most rigorous challenges, missions, and environments in the world.
And to believe that anything's possible, to believe that they can accomplish any mission. And so, you know, you look at the success rate of the SEALs and it kind of bears it out that that's a pretty effective training method. So, they don't want to mess with it.
And to believe that anything's possible, to believe that they can accomplish any mission. And so, you know, you look at the success rate of the SEALs and it kind of bears it out that that's a pretty effective training method. So, they don't want to mess with it.
But I don't think they really understand beyond kind of like the combat effectiveness and some of the work that David Grossman has done with his understanding about how to condition a warrior for the rigors of combat. I think that's all like philosophy and research and it's really interesting.
But I don't think they really understand beyond kind of like the combat effectiveness and some of the work that David Grossman has done with his understanding about how to condition a warrior for the rigors of combat. I think that's all like philosophy and research and it's really interesting.
But I don't think they understand what's happening at an emotional, even quasi-spiritual level or metaphysical level. And also with regard to the brain and the mind and the nervous system and how all those things are reorganizing through neuroplasticity and also epigenetics so that seals are kind of like turning on and off different genes. And I would say...
But I don't think they understand what's happening at an emotional, even quasi-spiritual level or metaphysical level. And also with regard to the brain and the mind and the nervous system and how all those things are reorganizing through neuroplasticity and also epigenetics so that seals are kind of like turning on and off different genes. And I would say...