Marie Gluesenkamp Perez

Yeah, I mean, the part of your brain that is angry is not the part of your brain that you think strategically about with. Those are different muscles. And I think it can feel condescending to a lot of people when somebody's like, the world's on fire, everything's going to hell, and I'm the only one who sees it. Like, you guys all need to wake up, you know?

Yeah, I mean, the part of your brain that is angry is not the part of your brain that you think strategically about with. Those are different muscles. And I think it can feel condescending to a lot of people when somebody's like, the world's on fire, everything's going to hell, and I'm the only one who sees it. Like, you guys all need to wake up, you know?

And it's like, I don't think people can hear that, you know? I think that... curiosity and humility and relationships are very powerful tools, profoundly powerful tools. I kind of think that when you have all of your wants and needs met, it's easier to empathize with

And it's like, I don't think people can hear that, you know? I think that... curiosity and humility and relationships are very powerful tools, profoundly powerful tools. I kind of think that when you have all of your wants and needs met, it's easier to empathize with

someone somewhere else or a fuzzy animal than it is to have compassion for your neighbor who's got a fentanyl addiction or your neighbor that's got like rolling coal or that has the wrong lawn sign up you know there's a reason it's like the greatest commandment is to love your neighbor

someone somewhere else or a fuzzy animal than it is to have compassion for your neighbor who's got a fentanyl addiction or your neighbor that's got like rolling coal or that has the wrong lawn sign up you know there's a reason it's like the greatest commandment is to love your neighbor

Yeah, people are valid in their anger, and it is a fool's errand to try to talk somebody out of their feelings. That is not a good idea. But you can affirm the validity of their feelings, and also... present a productive strategy for resolving some of those drivers of that anger or that fear. You know, on your point about El Salvador, my dad was the pastor of a Spanish-language church growing up.

Yeah, people are valid in their anger, and it is a fool's errand to try to talk somebody out of their feelings. That is not a good idea. But you can affirm the validity of their feelings, and also... present a productive strategy for resolving some of those drivers of that anger or that fear. You know, on your point about El Salvador, my dad was the pastor of a Spanish-language church growing up.

And you want to meet somebody that really fucking hates gangs. You talk to an immigrant who gave up a profound amount to leave a country that was corrupt and run by gangs. That same person cares passionately about due process. They understand that the only inoculant against a corrupt regime is fidelity to due process.

And you want to meet somebody that really fucking hates gangs. You talk to an immigrant who gave up a profound amount to leave a country that was corrupt and run by gangs. That same person cares passionately about due process. They understand that the only inoculant against a corrupt regime is fidelity to due process.

And if we had had due process in these cases, we would be in a position to evaluate a judge's decision about whether or not that person was involved in human trafficking or whatever the claim is. But the point is that we don't have it. And it's a deep strategic mistake to accept that we have to choose between really hating gangs and really loving due process.

And if we had had due process in these cases, we would be in a position to evaluate a judge's decision about whether or not that person was involved in human trafficking or whatever the claim is. But the point is that we don't have it. And it's a deep strategic mistake to accept that we have to choose between really hating gangs and really loving due process.

When you have experienced truly being afraid of being kidnapped or having your business exploited or human trafficking, you take it quite seriously. That feeling is real and valid, and the productive strategy is due process, fidelity to due process. And I think it's kind of a yes and, like, yes, it makes sense to be scared.

When you have experienced truly being afraid of being kidnapped or having your business exploited or human trafficking, you take it quite seriously. That feeling is real and valid, and the productive strategy is due process, fidelity to due process. And I think it's kind of a yes and, like, yes, it makes sense to be scared.

And if you're really believing that we are entering a totalitarian state, is the point here, if you're really worried that we're never going to have elections again, why is the second bullet point on your agenda primarying Democrats? Like, that's not what people do in real scenarios like that.

And if you're really believing that we are entering a totalitarian state, is the point here, if you're really worried that we're never going to have elections again, why is the second bullet point on your agenda primarying Democrats? Like, that's not what people do in real scenarios like that.

Yeah. You know, where I live, like, we believe that countries have a right and an obligation to know who and what is coming across a border. I don't think that's crazy. And one of the, I guess, failures or weaknesses is that words mean different things all over the place. Some people talking about immigration, they're talking about drug trafficking.

Yeah. You know, where I live, like, we believe that countries have a right and an obligation to know who and what is coming across a border. I don't think that's crazy. And one of the, I guess, failures or weaknesses is that words mean different things all over the place. Some people talking about immigration, they're talking about drug trafficking.

And whether or not you're mad about that conflation, you do have to hear and try to get at what is the strategy here. the productive strategy to address it and not just like policing the conflation, but saying like, yeah, it fucking sucks to have a family member addicted to fentanyl.

And whether or not you're mad about that conflation, you do have to hear and try to get at what is the strategy here. the productive strategy to address it and not just like policing the conflation, but saying like, yeah, it fucking sucks to have a family member addicted to fentanyl.