Marie Forleo
Appearances
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And so let's say that you got invited to go speak at a certain event or someone wants to make you their business partner or they're presenting you with this opportunity that on paper, maybe there's a lot of money involved or there's a lot of prestige or everyone else would be like, what are you nuts. Like, how are you saying no to this? But yet something inside of you feels like, oh, I don't know.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So here's what I do. I always instruct people whenever you're faced with something like that and you don't know if it's like good fear, meaning the type of fear that you described. It's not like the fear of walking in front of a bus where you're going to get killed. We're not talking about that. We're talking about creative fear that could keep you small.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And how do you know if it's like something you should move through and say yes, because it's going to be a tremendous opportunity for you to develop skills and move up in the world. Or if it's your intuition waving a big neon red flag going like, don't do this. You're going to F it up. It's going to just cost you a million things. It's going to take you on the wrong path.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
You're going to regret it. So when you think about whatever the opportunity is or whatever the decision is, you close your eyes, you get very, very still and you want to get out of your head and tap into your body. So if it's helpful, make sure you have no technology around.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
If you need to like shake it out and either go for a walk, go for a run, go for a workout, something so you can disengage from the nonstop chatter of the monkey mind and really start to feel in your body. So you get really quiet and then you ask yourself, does the idea of saying yes to to this opportunity, this deal, this possibility, make me feel expansive or contracted? Now, here's the deal.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
In the nanosecond when you ask yourself that question right after, your body has a visceral reaction. This is super subtle. So people I think that are involved in athletics, if you do any type of working out, you're probably going to be able to detect this a little easier at first, but everybody can do it.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And what you're feeling for is either a feeling of expansion and what that can be experienced as is like maybe your body moving forward in space. It's almost like you're leaning into the sun. You feel your chest lifted. There's maybe tingly sensations inside.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Even though maybe it's scary, you're like, whoa, there's a ton of excitement or maybe little sparks of joy or something that just feels like a visceral experience of expansion. On the other hand, if you ask yourself, like, does the idea of saying yes to this opportunity make me feel expansive or contracted? You might feel something that we could identify as dread.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Maybe there's a pit in your stomach. Maybe your physical body starts to pull back in space or your shoulders hunch over or your head starts to very subtly say no.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So if you actually ask yourself that question, take a breath and feel into the answer, not from your head, but from your body, that is one of the surest ways that any single person can get aligned with their intuition, not their intellect. Your intellect will often lead you astray.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
because it's tied to your ego, which is tied to status, prestige, wanting to get ahead, climbing, and it's all rooted in fear at the end of the day. Your intuition is your connection to higher source, guidance, wisdom, natural knowing, like innate powers that all of us have that we're just not taught how to access in school.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
The 10 year test. So this was interesting. So after I had said no to the magazine world, had gone on this journey to like, okay, let me figure out how the hell to build a coaching business, bartending, waiting tables about seven days a week and was doing my coaching business during the day.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And so we all know this, like one of the things that any one of us needs to do, or we learn that we have to do is kind of have an elevator pitch or, you know, when someone asks you about your business or what you do for your career, you're supposed to have like a really good answer. And I remember at the bar when people would ask me, so like, what else do you do?
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Oftentimes when I talked about being a life coach, it would feel really narrow and limiting. And like, I wasn't telling the full story. Even though I really loved what I did, the truth was I had all of these different other passions as well that I was starting to explore. So for example, I love spirituality. I loved writing.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I loved what at that time, the early 2000s was the new world of digital business. Again, YouTube didn't exist. Podcast didn't exist yet. It was blogs and email and eBooks and like different things that were brand new and mind blowing. And I also loved hip hop. and dance and music. And even though I don't have any formal training, it was something that was such a passion for me.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And I would go to classes here in New York City and I would go to a place called Crunch because first of all, I had a gym membership. They had amazing dance teachers and amazing dance classes and I loved it. And I remember just going to classes so often going like, wow, I've
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I actually think this should be a part of my path or part of my career, but it doesn't make sense because I'm supposed to be focused on life coaching. I'm already bartending and waiting tables seven nights a week. How am I going to do all these things?
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And so I remember having these fantasies about being a dancer and about having a career in this world, but I would always never give myself permission to do it because it was like, oh, I'm supposed to focus. All the success books say you have to niche down and pick one thing and be the best at it in the world so they can't ignore you. But the truth was, I couldn't do that.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
It wasn't advice that worked for me. And so this opportunity came up to actually audition, to teach at Crunch and to kind of take my passion for this thing to the next level. And I remember sitting down and thinking to myself, should I do this? Is this like the stupidest thing ever? You know what I mean?
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Am I going to just get distracted, slow down my coaching career, spend even more time bartending and waiting tables because I'm not making that much money? That's when I came up with the 10-year test. I was about 25 or 26 at the time. In the dance world to start out at 25 or 26, you are over the hill.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
You're practically a great grandparent because most people as professional dancers, they start taking class when they're like three or four and they're in these recitals and everything. And they're professional dancers going on tour and music videos by the time they're like 15, 16, 17, you know, like that's their peak.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And then in their mid twenties, they're kind of moving into a different zone or something like that. Anyway, that was my understanding of that world. So to start dancing with no formal training at 26 or 27 sounded crazy. So I sat myself down and I said, okay, look, you love this thing so much. You love music. You love hip hop. You love dance. If you imagine yourself, you're 25 right now.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
If you imagine yourself 10 years in the future, looking back and realizing you didn't go for this, you didn't actually audition to teach at Crunch. You didn't give this any sort of space or attention. Are you going to regret it? And when I closed my eyes and imagined myself at 35, 10 years into the future, I was like, oh my God, it would be one of the biggest regrets of my life.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And that leaning into my future and trying on a perspective of future me is the 10-year test and anyone can do it. Now, if I would have gotten the answer like, no, I really wouldn't give a shit, then I probably wouldn't have went on an audition.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
But I did audition and I wound up having this extraordinary career simultaneously to building my coaching practice where I was one of the world's first elite Nike dance athletes. And I got to teach hip hop and salsa and house and all these different dance flavors all around the world.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And these incredible experiences that would have never happened if I didn't do that 10 year test and get out of a space of fear, thinking that it was like too late at 25. And again, I know how ridiculous that sounds, but in that world, contextually, it made sense.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Yeah. I grew up in New Jersey like you did. I remember distinctly as a kid, when adults would say, hey, what do you want to be when you grow up? I never had one answer. I always had like 17. I want to be a teacher. I want to be a dancer. I want to be a writer. I want to be a businesswoman. I want to be a model. I want to be an artist. It was just like on and on and on.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
One of them is that I'm willing to dive in and not be good at stuff. Like everything I've ever tried when I start out, I'm not good at all. Like terrible. I remember all those times trying out for the cheerleading team and just being like so crestfallen because I was so rejected. It was like, these arms aren't straight and you don't have this. No, no, no.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And I was just like, all right, I'm going to try better next time. And I just put myself on video camera to learn, to go, okay, oh, wow, I see how my arms are. Oh, oh, wow, Jesus, I'm a mess. Okay, great. And I think the same thing with coaching. I think the same thing with business. Like I'm not super fast. So a lot of people I think in the world
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Sometimes people have these incredible opportunities where they're like, they have, I don't know if it's overnight success, but they're like fast learners. And I don't think I'm like that. I think also one of the pros to this type of personality is like, if I really love something, I'm going to just go for it and dive in and trust that it'll all work out.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I think one of the cons of having personalities like we do is you can sometimes be your own worst enemy. And you can overwork. I think perfectionism is something to really watch out for. Like there's beautiful perfectionism, which means you have high standards. And that's awesome because that's where excellence comes from. And that is outstanding.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And then it can bleed over into some maladaptive forms of it. where nothing is ever good enough. You're never good enough. You can push yourself into burnout and you can be really hard on other people too.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So I think those are some of the aspects where you have to really keep awareness of yourself and the self-punishment and the self-torture that can come with this personality type is really something to keep an eye out for.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
It's a great question. Two things about this. One, I don't know if there was one. That's my honest assessment. And I may not be the best person to decide that because I'm so in it. And if you talk to anyone who knows me, any of my friends and colleagues, they'll let you know, even my team. I'm the most heads down person ever. Like my thing is I just show up, I get it done.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And then I'm either off, meaning I'm completely unplugged and kind of into another space in my life. And then when I come back, I go heads down again. So because I've been doing this now and it's been 22 years, right? So it's a really long time. And I think going back to the traits, one of my best traits is my consistency trait. So when I first started creating content on a weekly basis.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And as the years went on, some of those answers would change, but there was never just one answer. And I didn't realize that that was even odd or different until really my college years. I remember a lot of people seemed to have a very distinct, definitive vision for what they wanted to do. You know, I want to be a doctor or I want to be a lawyer or I want to be whatever it was.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
It was through a newsletter, the cheesiest title ever called Magical Moments. It was awesome. That was the best I could do at that time. And I would send out a newsletter every week nonstop. And then actually once I got a puppy, it was the first dog I ever had in my life, Kuma, he's 13 now. When I got him, I couldn't blog anymore because raising a puppy and training a puppy takes a lot of time.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
If anyone listening has ever done it, you know it's a lot of work. And I was like, oh, I need to just turn on my computer because I remembered from my teaching fitness days, I was like, oh, I can easily look at a camera. And so then it became MarieTV. And I'm saying all this because the consistency and the momentum that has built over time. There wasn't one moment.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I think it's the long game that has allowed me to create what for me has been a really beautiful experience of business and a beautiful experience of being able to connect with people. There were certainly beautiful moments and I hope that there's many more, but I don't think that there was one that really did it. It was the relentlessness of commitment and consistency that I think has
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Help me create what we have today.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So this phrase is really, it's the mantra I live my life by. I feel like if my DNA could be words, that would be it. This actually is something beautiful. It was such a gift that was given to me by my mom. So my mom is this really interesting character. She is, she's 75 now. She's still with us. She's awesome. She's super spicy and funny. She is about 5'4".
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
She looks like June Cleaver, which is this character from the 50s, this like Leave it to Beaver show. Very, very kind of pure and all-American looking, but she has the tenacity of a bulldog and she curses like a truck driver. She is so spicy. And she actually grew up the daughter of two alcoholic parents in Newark, New Jersey.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So she really learned by necessity how to stretch a dollar bill around the block like five times. Super frugal. And she had made a promise to herself that when she grew up, that somehow she was going to find a way to a better life.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And I remember sitting around our house in New Jersey on Sundays and we would clip out coupons together because my mom was like, I'm going to teach you all the different ways that we save money. And the other thing that gave her so much joy was the fact that brands back in the day, I don't even know if they still do this,
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Back in the day, when you kind of were loyal to a brand, you could cut out what was known as a proof of purchase. So those were on the back of like cereal boxes or milk cartons or orange juice cartons. And if you saved up enough of them, you can mail them in and they would send you something like a free recipe book or a whole set of utensils or something like that.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And one of my mom's favorite possessions in the whole world was this little AM FM transistor radio that she got from Tropicana Orange Juice for free. So this little radio looked like an orange. It had this cute red and white straw sticking out of the side. That's the antenna. And my mom loves music too.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And I still had like 15 things that sounded really intriguing to me. And when I started my career after graduating, I went to Seton Hall University in South Orange, New Jersey. My first job was actually on Wall Street on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. And I was pumped. I was so excited because it's like the financial mecca of the universe.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And so I remember as a kid, anytime that I needed to find my mom, like somewhere around our yard or somewhere around the house, all I had to do was listen for the sound of this tinny little radio of her like music blaring out of it. And one day I remember walking home from school and I'm approaching the house and I hear her tunes. It was like a Donna Summer or something.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I get closer and the music is like coming from a strange orientation. It was actually coming from way up high. I was caught off guard and I look up and I see my mom perched precariously on the roof of our two story house. I don't see a ladder. I don't see, I just see her like perched up there with this little orange sitting next to her butt. And I'm like, mom, are you okay? What are you doing? Why
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
how do you do it on the roof up there? And she's like, Ray, I'm fine. Don't worry about it. She's like, the roof had a leak. I called the roofer. He said it was going to be at least 500 bucks. I said, screw that. There's some extra asphalt in the garage. I'm doing it myself. Super frugal. I was like, okay, cool.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So another day I come home, I remember walking through the door and like, I hear like, I'm every woman, like in the back and my mom's in the bathroom. I push open the door and there's like dust particles all over and there's pipes sticking out of the wall. Like it looked like a bomb went off. It was crazy. And I was like, mom, are you okay? What's going on?
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
She's like, oh, you know, the caulking was off and the tiles were cracked. I didn't want the bathroom to get moldy. So I'm retiling everything. Okay. Now you have to get that my mom is just high school educated, right? And this is the 1980s. So we don't have Google. We don't have YouTube. We don't have TikTok. Like we don't have any of the things that you could look up how to do stuff.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And so one day it was the fall, it was getting dark early and I came home from school and it was already like kind of creepy. And as I approached my house, something was different. no lights on and it was totally silent. And for an Italian American home, if it's quiet and dark, this is not a good sign.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So I walk in and I had this pit in my stomach because I knew something was off and I'm like, where the hell is my mom? Where's the radio? Like it's too silent here. And then all of a sudden I hear these clicks and clacks like coming out of the kitchen. I follow the sound and I see my mom hunched over the kitchen table, look like an operating room. There were screwdrivers and like electrical tape.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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And then in about a dozen pieces, a completely dismantled Tropicana orange radio. I was like, mom, what happened? Is it broke? That's like your favorite thing in the world. She says to me, she's like, oh no, everything's fine. She's like, the antenna was off and the dial wasn't working right. So I'm just putting it back together.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And I finally thought to ask the question I should have always asked, which was this. I said, hey mom, how do you know how to do so many things that you have never done before? And there's nobody showing you how to do it. And she put down her screwdriver and she cocked her head to the side. She said, Marie, what are you talking about? She's like, nothing in life is that complicated.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
If you roll up your sleeves, you get in there and you do it. Everything is figureoutable. And Holly, I kid you not. I was just like, everything is figureoutable. What? everything is figureoutable. It's like that phrase washed over me and it lodged into my heart so deep that it became the operating system through which I lived, honestly, the rest of my life.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Back in those days, this is like the late 90s, there were actually no chairs on the floor. And I'm a person who has a lot of energy. So I was like, oh, this is so cool. I'm going to be running around all day. This is amazing. And after about six months into that job, I was super grateful for the work because I'm the first in my family to go to college.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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It got me through high school and abusive relationships and all the BS that most of us go through, getting college and education and rejection, all the things. And there is not a day that goes by
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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that I still do not use that phrase or that we don't use it in our team and our company or in some aspect that it doesn't help me when the shiitake hits the fan in life, because it does for all of us, get myself back into a space of going like, let's problem solve. Let's get creative. Who can I call? I may not have all the answers.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I'm not saying that I know how to necessarily figure everything out, but that it is figureoutable.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And my parents, they just busted their buns to be able to even give me an education. And I took that very, very seriously. But after about six months, I started hearing this voice inside that said, this isn't who you are. This isn't what you're meant to do. This isn't what you're supposed to be. And I was like, that's strange.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And I tried to kind of push that voice away, but it kept getting louder and louder and louder until one day I remember being at work and starting to feel sick, like physically ill, started to feel dizzy, like I couldn't really breathe. And I said to my boss, I said, hey, can I just run out and get a coffee real fast? It was at a kind of slower time during the day. He's like, yeah, no problem.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Yeah. So it was, I was around eight when my parents got divorced. And so essentially it was never about like drugs or infidelity or, you know, anything like that. It was, it was always, my parents fighting was always about money. and there not being enough of it. And so when the divorce finally came final one day, when the papers were done, I remember watching my mom in the kitchen.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And my mom's a little woman, and she had probably lost, I don't know, 15 to 20 pounds, to be perfectly honest with you. She was like a skeleton. And this was back when there was landlines. So she had the phone wrapped around her hand, and blood was drained out of it. And she's on the phone crying to her mother, my grandmother, who was in Florida. And she's like, I have nothing. I have nothing.
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Do you understand that? I have nothing. And then she hung up the phone and she leaned down, bent down because I was small and she put her hands on my shoulders and her forehead was next to mine and she shook me. She said, Marie, don't be stupid like I was. Do you see what I'm going through right now? Don't ever let a man control your money. Don't ever let anyone control your destiny.
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Don't be stupid like me. I need you to grow up. I need you to be independent. I need you to take care of yourself. don't be stupid like I was. And I'm not kidding you, Holla. Like at eight, first of all, I was terrified because I had never seen my mom that distraught. Second of all, my dad's an amazing person. So I was heartbroken because every kid, most of us, right?
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We just want our families to be together. And so I formed this little understanding, this little equation, which was this, was that not having enough money means that you're going to lose love. Not having enough money means that families are going to get broken up and not having enough money is a thing that I never want.
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And I promised myself that I was going to grow up and somehow figure out how to make so much money that it would never take away love again. And I remember even as a kid hearing other stories from other kids I knew because their families were getting divorced too. And so I had these fantasies of like, oh, well, I'm going to earn so much that I can help other people with enough money as well.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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And so that was kind of a weird but strange and amazing thing that got planted in me that grew into a desire, a hunger, a commitment to be financially free. It definitely was not a straight line because like I was sharing earlier in this conversation, I got myself in piles and piles of debt after school. So I was certainly not good at it.
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I think for most of us, there's a lot of mixed messages that we absorb around money, whether that is from our family, from society, our friends, the media, a lot of mixed signals about whether we should want it. Is it okay to want it? You shouldn't have it. Are you spiritual? Are you a good person? Like so much stuff. that most of us need to work through.
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But that was the genesis for me of having that seed planted of going like, nope, I don't know how, but I'm gonna figure out how to earn so much that it's not gonna be a problem.
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So I left and I didn't go to get coffee. I made a beeline to the nearest church and I sat on the steps and I cried. I cried my eyes out because I felt like such a loser because I knew logically and intellectually that I was so I was so grateful to have work, which included a steady paycheck. It included health benefits. I felt like I was doing good by my family.
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Yeah. Well, a couple of things. One, should you be interested? And again, this is only an invitation, but if you're ever like, you know what, I'm kind of done with this. I still want to be wildly successful, but I don't want to drive myself into the ground. You need to consider coming to do Time Genius. It's amazing.
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It'll keep all of your best qualities and kind of let go, at least for me, of some of the ones that have grown to be destructive. So for me, probably one of the biggest wake-up calls was actually in 2020 because I had been really going at it hard for a while. And it was like a fish in water. It's like, I don't know any different. This is just me. This is what I do. This is how I do it.
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And there was never a problem with it. It certainly wasn't a burden because I love my work. And it showed up a few times in my relationship with Josh, my partner. We've been together 20 years where he's like, you hey, working a lot. And I'm like, yeah, this is what it takes, dude. Like this is what it's about. And so we've definitely had sparring issues over time.
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And I think I dialed it down a little bit because the truth is my relationship needed more space and needed more attention and if it was going to thrive. But in 2020, I started having all of these weird and unusual pains in my body, which I had never had before.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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And I had always taken really good care of my health and as conscious as I can be as a dancer and as a fitness person, movement is part of my life, but things just started to fall apart. And I remember getting all of my blood work done and a doctor said to me after she reviewed my blood work, she's like, Marie, it is a miracle you're able to get up every day. Like your adrenals are shot.
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Then we discovered all of these tumors inside of me, including one, the size of a grapefruit growing outside of my uterus, pushing all of the other organs out of place. And it turns out I had to have an urgent hysterectomy to make the pain stop. And so after that surgery, the recovery is like, you can't really do much for like six to eight weeks. It's just like your body needs to heal.
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It's a major surgery. You cannot work out. You can walk and you walk gently, but you just have to really chill. And I'm not kidding you. I have never taken six weeks off in my life. I started babysitting when I was nine. And I was like, even just the prospect, I remember even when I heard like, no, no, no, you're not going to be able to do anything for six weeks.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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I was like, it was like such a record scratch moment. But what was so cool about that was in the stillness and in the requirement to just be, I was able to see how much my patterning of drivenness had exceeded what was necessary. And it was though this drive was driving me rather than me being in control. And there was just layers of it that I was like, This is not even productive.
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And I am like really about efficiency and productivity. And I'm like overdoing it in certain areas. And it's causing my body to break down, which is like my sacred vessel in this lifetime. Like this is nuts, Marie. You know, you can't see things or learn the lessons until they're ready for you.
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But there was something in that stillness that gave me a perspective that quite frankly, I just didn't have before because I was so, it was such a habit to go so fast and so hard that I didn't know there was even another option.
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But at the same time, the truth was I was miserable and I felt like I was dying a slow death. And I didn't know how to reconcile those two things. The first signal I got from above was actually, it said, call your dad. And back in those days, I still had, it was like flip phone days. So I took the flip phone out of my like dark green jacket. That's what all the traders had.
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You got to come take it. You'll love it.
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In my six weeks. And so like I had, I've always been obsessed with productivity because again, I love what I do. And I'm always like, well, how do we maximize our time on earth? Like how do you get the most out of being here? The things that you want to create, the impact you want to make, the different adventures that you want to have.
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So it's always been a place of interest for me, a place of study. And I love studying neuroscience and I love studying efficiency and effectiveness and all those beautiful things.
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And when I really started to understand that I was so addicted to like overwhelm and had put myself in a place of burnout, I started to recognize that I was like, wait a minute, this is like two different worlds, two different paradigms where we're so
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enculturated to believe that if we're not on our phones 24 seven, if we're not constantly engaging and creating content and trying to reach for more, more, more and bigger and bigger and bigger, that somehow we're not hungry enough or we're not driven enough.
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So I started understanding, I was like, it basically came to me this concept of like, there's the world of time stress, which most of the world is caught in. Here's a stat that might blow your mind. Did you know that on average, right now, these days, the average American will now spend the equivalent of 44 years of their life staring at screens? No, I didn't know that. 44 years of our life.
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I don't know about you.
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But I don't think the purpose of a human life is to spend 44 years or 66 years staring at screens. And just when I started to really do some research into the stats and I started, I actually asked our audience, I sent out this survey. And I just said, hey, I'm investigating this topic.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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I'm curious if you have any struggles around productivity or burnout or getting things done or feeling like no matter how hard you go, it's never enough. And when you're working, you're like, oh God, I really need to rest. But you feel so guilty for taking rest that you don't take a rest.
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And then when you take a rest, you're like, oh, I should be working because I have all these other ideas and I need to get ahead. And oh my God, you don't even... The responses, there was like 7,000 in-depth responses in like two days. It was insane.
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And when I started to look at those responses, it became so apparent to me that most of the world was caught, trapped in this awful paradigm that I called time stress, where you feel like no matter how hard you go, it's not hard enough, that you can't take a break, that you're lazy if you even want to sit down and rest for like five minutes, that no matter what you do, it's not enough.
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That you're starting to feel some anxiety, some depression, some burnout, and you feel ashamed about that. And you feel like that if you take a break or slow down, that everything you've worked so hard for is probably going to fall apart. And that's the world a lot of people are living in. And they're plastering on smiles and saying, oh, but I got it. I got it together. I got it together.
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Or they feel like they have to hold it together.
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They don't realize that there's this whole other possibility of the paradigm I call being a time genius, which is where you can actually get all the things that you want to get done and then some and not feel that dread and not run yourself into the ground and not do things that are ineffective and not chase these goals or this cultural mandate for more that honestly is sometimes you don't want everything to grow indefinitely.
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Think about cancer cells.
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That's something you don't want more of. And so sometimes actually the secret to getting more out of life of what we really want, which includes abundance and adventure and success, actually requires us doing less. That's not a message we get very often. But anyway, we could keep talking and I want to be quiet because I'm sure you have more questions.
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And I called my dad and I was crying. I was like crying the ugly cry where like there's knots coming out of your nose and you just can't breathe. And I was like, dad, I'm so sorry. I'm a man. And when I finally shut up, and took a breath. He's like, Ree, stop. He's like, you've been working since you were nine years old. I'm not worried about you figuring out how to keep a roof over your head.
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I would say one is, I know this sounds really basic, but a lot of people don't do it, is really shift every notification on every electrical device you have to the off position, defaulted to off. Do not let yourself be interrupted by other people's ideas, agendas, or notifications. That includes text messages. That includes Slack. That includes email. That includes every social platform.
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One of the biggest things that crushes our ability to do deep focus work is interruptions and distractions. And when you start setting those notifications to off, like you're going to feel a little uncomfortable at first. You're like, oh, am I not important? No one's reaching out to me. Is it too quiet? But I will tell you, you'll get your core work done
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so fast and then you'll have so much more space and bandwidth to play and have fun and interact with people and have real conversations and not be toast at the end of your day. So that's one thing. The other thing is I always advise people to make a success plan, not a to-do list. So success plan, it's not just semantics.
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It's actually the framing that's really important is you take four minutes at the end of your day, So before you wrap up for the day and not to wait until five, six, seven, eight o'clock when your brain's freaking toast and you're running on fumes, do it like after lunch at like one or two or something like that. Take four minutes and map out your success plan for the following day.
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Are there any core meetings that you have to get to? Is there any place you need to show up and be on time? And what are the one to three, not 15, not 27, what are the one to three really high value projects, tasks, to-dos that you really do need to get done and have those on that list only. And a success plan rather than a to-do list, first of all, it frames you up to have a successful day.
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B, you're able to wake up and hit the ground running because you know exactly how your ideal day should unfold. And when you don't stuff it with 17, 15, 30 things, you have enough margin to be able to be responsive to the Oshitake moments of life. The internet fails. Technology doesn't work. Something happens with a member of your family.
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If there's enough white space in there, there's enough margin for you to be able to not only get your most important tasks done because you've identified what those are in advance, but there's enough wiggle room to be able to not let your life get out of control or for you to feel out of control dealing with it.
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But he's like, here's the secret to life. You're going to be working for at least the next 40 or 50 years. You have got to find something you love. And if going to work every day at this place makes you this sick that you ran out and you're crying in the middle of the day at the church, you can quit. You'll do what you did. You'll bartend. You'll figure it out.
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one thing they can do today to become more profiting tomorrow? Well, if you're a business owner, you might want to take a look at expanding either your prices or your offerings to offer something that is either a little more premium or that is catered to an audience who is happy, willing, and able to spend more on something that's a little more white glove or a little bit more exclusive.
Young and Profiting (YAP) with Hala Taha
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You know what? The biggest lesson that I continue to bring myself back to, and I feel like it's like one of my life lessons in this incarnation on earth, is to be in joy as much as humanly possible, even when things are hard, even when things feel uncertain, is to show up and to be in joy because the journey's not gonna last that long. And it goes faster and faster and faster.
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And the more that you show up in joy, that vibration, it helps you profit in more ways than one. You have access to greater creativity. You have better connections with the people around you. And the journey actually becomes a lot more fun.
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So marieforleo.com, it's M-A-R-I-E-F-O-R-L-E-O.com is kind of the main website. We've got hundreds of episodes of Marie Forleo, of the Marie Forleo podcast and MarieTV. On all the socials, it's at Marie Forleo. And I think on the website, there's a great free kind of coaching download. It's called How to Get Anything You Want.
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So it's like a little private coaching session, but you can download it and take it with you anywhere and it's 100% free.
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But you need to find something you love. And all of that was like such a huge permission slip for me because I realized in that moment, while my dad didn't tell me how to find something I loved, he gave me permission to do so and really reinforce the fact that livelihood needs to not fully, but finding something that genuinely aligns with your strengths and your skills is vital for all of us.
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And so the only clues I had really was that I was always a super creative child. So one of those 17 things that I always wanted to be was an artist. So I had this, I used to paint, I used to draw. I thought maybe I wanted to be an animator for Disney, but I also had a real passion around small business. My dad was a small business owner.
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And so I was fascinated with business and money and that kind of aspect of life too. And so I said to myself, okay, I have these two sides of me, what do I do with them? And the first idea that came to mind was actually the world of magazine publishing. There's the ad side, which is around money and sales. And then there's the editorial side, which is very creative.
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And so I went to a temp agency in New York City and I said, I want to work in magazines. I don't care which magazine, I don't care where it is, just get me any position. I'll be like the lowly assistant. I don't care. And so they placed me as an ad assistant at Gourmet Magazine. It's a part of Condé Nast Publications back in the day. And I remember I was like, oh, this is awesome.
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My old environment, 99.9% men, this new environment, it was a lot more mixed and balanced. I was like, this is really cool. My boss was a woman. And then also my big boss, the publisher was also this like incredible woman. I was like, oh, this is great. I've never seen this before. And after about six months in that job, the same voice came back.
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It started small, like Marie, this isn't who you are. This isn't what you're supposed to do. This what is going on? What's wrong with me? Where's this voice coming from? I really want to work. I really want to earn money. I really want to contribute. But I couldn't stand going to an office every day.
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And so logically, I was like, okay, let me just step back here and try and look at my situation objectively. Wall Street, money, money, money, ad sales, more money, numbers. Maybe I've leaned too heavy into the business side. Maybe I've really been starving my creative self. So I said, okay. went to HR and said, look, if you have any position at any magazine on the editorial side, I'll take it.
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I don't care if I'll take a pay cut. It's a lateral move. It's a down move. Just any opportunity, I'll take it. So they found me a position at a Mademoiselle, which was a women's fashion magazine, editorial side fashion department. I was like, oh my God, this has got to be it. I'm going to be working with designers. I'm going to be seeing new products and be helping with layouts, photo shoots.
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This is amazing. And for the first couple of months, it was really cool. It was novel. I learned all kinds of new things, different environment, amazing. Of course, within, I don't know, four or five months, the voices came back again. Holla, this time I was like, there is something wrong with me. I feel broken. Do I have some kind of cognitive dysfunction where I can't commit to anything?
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All of my friends are getting raises. getting married, starting to build their whole lives. And here I am years after graduation, just wanting to quit my next job. Nothing was making sense. And I felt so terrified. I felt like such a loser. It was awful. And there was one day at work when I was on the article. And it was about a new profession at the time. It's about 1999.
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The new profession was called coaching. you have to get that in the late 90s, nobody had heard of coaching. This was like groundbreaking. And I remember reading that article and it was as though a Christmas tree lit up inside of me. It was as though the clouds parted and little angels came out and it was like, oh, this is what you're supposed to do.
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But at the same time, I was 23 years old and the mean voice in my head said, what are you Are you kidding me? You're 23. Who the heck's going to hire a 23-year-old life coach? You haven't even lived life yet. You're in piles and piles of debt. You can't seem to hold down a job. This is going to be one more thing you fail at. So I had that going on, but I couldn't deny that in my body,
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And my intuition told me that there was something there that I was meant to follow. And I signed up on the spot for a three-year coach training program. I was doing that at night, on the weekends, kept my magazine job during the day. And then I got a call from the HR department and they had a promotion for me to go move up, bigger paycheck, better position, to be a part of Vogue magazine.
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arguably one of the top fashion magazines in the world. And that was my fork in the road. Do I stay on the safe path with the paycheck and the health benefits and like a career that people actually understand what the hell it is? Or do I quit and do this weird ass life coaching thing that no one has ever heard of?
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I have no idea how to even turn it into a business and it sounds ridiculous when I say it out loud. So I chose that path. I gave up my job and I went back to bartending and waiting tables, which I did all throughout college. And I figured out how to build a coaching practice during the day.
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So that's kind of the through line of being a multi-passionate kid, not knowing what that was to kind of getting me to the place where, you know, and I'll pause because I'm sure we have other questions, but we can kind of take it all the way through.
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Okay. Signing up for that program felt really significant to me because I just basically graduated from school just a few years earlier. So I was still in that mode of being like, I am a student. When you want a new skill, you go put yourself in an environment to gain those skills and capabilities.
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And everything that they taught and all of the topics and what we would talk about in terms of communication, in terms of supporting other people, creating frameworks, understanding how to listen and to ask questions, those things felt like second nature to me.
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They felt like areas where I was so excited to learn as opposed to things that I went through in college where it was like, oh, you know, I'm rolling my eyes to get through every topic. Like there was no resonance there. So that was my first clue that I was onto something is I really, really enjoyed learning.
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Second part of my coach training was actually that you should not wait to get what we called at that time practice clients. It was like, Hey, just work with people for free. Like that was kind of a part of how they told you that you're going to build a business and build your confidence was not to go out there and like pretend that you're further along than you are.
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But for me, it looked like reaching out to every single girlfriend that I had. And because I was bartending and waiting tables, people would always ask me like, hey, what else do you do? Are you an actress? I'm like, no, dude, I'm a coach. I could actually help you reach a goal or set a strategy or do this. And so I was
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just absolutely shameless about asking people if I could work with them for free. Like I just did everything I possibly could. And in that process, was it uncomfortable? Yeah, but I had failed at so many other things. And that was so much more painful than actually trying to do something that I really believed in that it gave me the motivation to just put myself out there.
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And then the worst thing that people could say was no. And I was like, that's not that big of a deal. It was through that experience of just continuing to work through my fear and my embarrassment. And then when I started getting people results and they're like, wow, I feel so much better after our conversation. So that started to kind of fill the well of like, oh, I could do this.
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Like, this is awesome. And it didn't happen overnight. It took me a very long time, but that's kind of how the process started.
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So I didn't realize the 10-year test until a few years later and we'll unpack what that concept is and how people can use it because I think it's actually, it's so helpful for any of us, no matter what your age is, no matter what stage of life you're in. That decision in terms of not saying yes to Vogue was a very body-led, intuition-led decision. Here's what I mean by that.
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Because I had had that experience on Wall Street where going to the same place every single day started making me feel like I was dying a slow death. And then I quit that job and got out of it. And then I went through a similar thing when I was at Gourmet Magazine, where I respected all the people that I worked for. I appreciated them.
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I was grateful to have a job, but I couldn't deny that every single day it was like, I can't do this for the rest of my life. I don't want want to climb this corporate ladder. What's going on? So it was a very visceral feeling.
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And then to have that a third time when I was at Mademoiselle and then to have this incredible opportunity for a promotion come to me and everything, every single cell in my body was screaming no, I don't even feel like it was a decision. It was something I had to do.
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Yeah. Fear versus intuition. It's a big thing. My best strategy that I've taught to probably hundreds of thousands of people at this point is a really simple thing that anyone can do whenever you're faced with a possibility, an opportunity, something that you're facing where if you said yes, you're like, wow, this decision could change my life or this opportunity could mean the world to me.
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And I think it's really important for all of us, especially when we're starting in a new journey or when we're on the early part of our career path to recognize that our intellect and our ego often wants to override our intuition.
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And I think it's really important for all of us, especially when we're starting in a new journey or when we're on the early part of our career path to recognize that our intellect and our ego often wants to override our intuition.
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And so let's say that you got invited to go speak at a certain event or someone wants to make you their business partner or they're presenting you with this opportunity that on paper, maybe there's a lot of money involved or there's a lot of prestige or everyone else would be like, what are you not? nuts. Like, how are you saying no to this?
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But yet something inside of you feels like, oh, I don't know. So here's what I do. I always instruct people whenever you're faced with something like that and you don't know if it's like good fear, meaning the type of fear that you described. It's not like the fear of walking in front of a bus where you're going to get killed. We're not talking about that.
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We're talking about creative fear that could keep you small. And how do you know if it's like something you should move through and say yes, because it's going to be a tremendous opportunity for you to develop skills and move up in the world. Or if it's your intuition waving a big neon red flag going like, don't do this. You're going to F it up. It's going to just cost you a million things.
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It's going to take you on the wrong path. You're going to regret it. So when you think about whatever the opportunity is or whatever the decision is, you close your eyes, you get very, very still and you want to get out of your head and tap into your body. So if it's helpful, make sure you have no technology around.
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If you need to like shake it out and either go for a walk, go for a run, go for a workout, something so you can disengage from the nonstop chatter of the monkey mind and really start to feel in your body. So you get really quiet and then you ask yourself, does the idea of saying yes to to this opportunity, this deal, this possibility, make me feel expansive or contracted? Now, here's the deal.
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In the nanosecond when you ask yourself that question right after, your body has a visceral reaction. This is super subtle. So people I think that are involved in athletics, if you do any type of working out, you're probably going to be able to detect this a little easier at first, but everybody can do it.
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And what you're feeling for is either a feeling of expansion and what that can be experienced as is like maybe your body moving forward in space. It's almost like you're leaning into the sun. You feel your chest lifted. There's maybe tingly sensations inside, even though maybe it's scary.
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You're like, whoa, there's a ton of excitement or maybe little sparks of joy or something that just feels like a visceral experience of expansion. On the other hand, if you ask yourself, like, does the idea of saying yes to this opportunity make me feel expansive or contracted? You might feel something that we could identify as dread. Maybe there's a pit in your stomach.
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Maybe your physical body starts to pull back in space or your shoulders hunch over or your head starts to very subtly say no. So if you actually ask yourself that question, take a breath and feel into the answer, not from your head, but from your body, that is one of the surest ways that any single person can get aligned with their intuition, not their intellect.
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Your intellect will often lead you astray. because it's tied to your ego, which is tied to status, prestige, wanting to get ahead, climbing, and it's all rooted in fear at the end of the day. Your intuition is your connection to higher source, guidance, wisdom, natural knowing, like innate powers that all of us have that we're just not taught how to access in school.
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I'd love to understand the 10-year, yeah, 10-year test. The 10-year test. So this was interesting. So after I had said no to the magazine world, had gone on this journey to like, okay, let me figure out how the hell to build a coaching business, bartending, waiting tables about seven days a week and was doing my coaching business during the day. And so we all know this.
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One of the things that any one of us needs to do or we learn that we have to do is kind of have an elevator pitch. Or when someone asks you about your business or what you do for your career, you're supposed to have a really good answer. And I remember at the bar when people would ask me, so what else do you do?
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Oftentimes, when I talked about being a life coach, it would feel really narrow and limiting and like I wasn't telling the full story. Even though I really loved what I did, the truth was I had all of these different other passions as well that I was starting to explore. So for example, I loved spirituality. I loved writing.
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I loved what at that time, the early 2000s was the new world of digital business. Again, no one, YouTube didn't exist. Podcast didn't exist yet. It was blogs and email and eBooks and like different things that were brand new and mind blowing. And I also loved hip hop and dance and music. And even though I don't have any formal training, it was like something that was such a passion for me.
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And I would go to classes here in New York City and I would go to a place called Crunch because they had, first of all, I had a gym membership. They had amazing dance teachers and amazing dance classes and I loved it. And I remember just going to classes so often going like,
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wow, I actually think this should be a part of my path or part of my career, but it doesn't make sense because I'm supposed to be focused on life coaching. I'm already bartending and waiting tables seven nights a week. How am I going to do all these things? And so I remember having these fantasies about being a dancer and about
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having a career in this world, but I would always never give myself permission to do it because it was like, oh, I'm supposed to focus. All the success books say you have to niche down and pick one thing and be the best at it in the world so they can't ignore you. But the truth was I couldn't do that. It wasn't advice that worked for me. And so this opportunity came up to actually audition for
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to teach at Crunch and to kind of take my passion for this thing to the next level. And I remember sitting down and thinking to myself, should I do this? Is this like the stupidest thing ever? You know what I mean? Am I going to just get distracted, slow down my coaching career, spend even more time bartending and waiting tables because I'm not making that much money?
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That's when I came up with the 10-year test. I was about 25 or 26 at the time. In the dance world, to start out at 25 or 26, you are over the hill. Yeah. you're practically a great grandparent because most people as professional dancers, they start taking class when they're like three or four and they're in these recitals and everything.
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And they're professional dancers going on tour and music videos by the time they're like 15, 16, 17, you know, like that's their peak. And then in their mid twenties, they're kind of moving into a different zone or something like that. Anyway, that was my understanding of that world. So to start dancing with no formal training at 26 or 27 sounded crazy.
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So I sat myself down and I said, okay, look, you love this thing so much. You love music. You love hip hop. You love dance. If you imagine yourself, you're 25 right now. If you imagine yourself 10 years in the future, looking back and realizing you didn't go for this, you didn't actually audition to teach at Crunch. You didn't give this any sort of space or attention. Are you going to regret it?
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And when I closed my eyes and imagined myself at 35, 10 years into the future, I was like, Oh my God, it would be one of the biggest regrets of my life. And that leaning into my future and trying on a perspective of future me is the 10-year test and anyone can do it. Now, if I would have gotten the answer like, no, I really wouldn't give a shit, then I probably wouldn't have went on an audition.
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But I did audition and I wound up having this extraordinary career simultaneously to building my coaching practice where I was one of the world's first elite Nike dance athletes. And I got to teach hip hop and salsa and house and all these different dance flavors simultaneously. all around the world.
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And these incredible experiences that would have never happened if I didn't do that 10-year test and get out of a space of fear thinking that it was like too late at 25. And again, I know how ridiculous that sounds, but in that world, contextually, it made sense.
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Yeah.
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One of them is that I'm willing to dive in and not be good at stuff. Like everything I've ever tried when I start out, I'm not good at all. Like terrible. I remember all those times trying out for the cheerleading team and just being like so crestfallen because I was so rejected. I was like, these arms aren't straight and you don't have this. No, no, no.
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And I was just like, all right, I'm going to try better next time. And I just put myself on video camera to learn, to go, okay, oh, wow, I see how my arms are. Oh, oh, wow, Jesus, I'm a mess. Okay, great. And I think the same thing with coaching. I think the same thing with business. Like I'm not super fast. So a lot of people I think in the world
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Sometimes people have these incredible opportunities where they're like, they have, I don't know if it's overnight success, but they're like fast learners. And I don't think I'm like that. I think also one of the pros to this type of personality is like, if I really love something, I'm going to just go for it and dive in and trust that it'll all work out.
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I think one of the cons of having personalities like we do is you can sometimes be your own worst enemy. And you can overwork. I think perfectionism is something to really watch out for. Like there's beautiful perfectionism, which means you have high standards. And that's awesome because that's where excellence comes from. And that is outstanding.
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Yeah. I grew up in New Jersey like you did. I remember distinctly as a kid, when adults would say, hey, what do you want to be when you grow up? I never had one answer. I always had like 17. I want to be a teacher. I want to be a dancer. I want to be a writer. I want to be a businesswoman. I want to be a model. I want to be an artist. It was just like on and on and on.
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And then it can bleed over into some maladaptive forms of it. where nothing is ever good enough. You're never good enough. You can push yourself into burnout and you can be really hard on other people too.
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So I think those are some of the aspects where you have to really keep awareness of yourself and the self-punishment and the self-torture that can come with this personality type is really something to keep an eye out for.
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It's a great question. Two things about this. One, I don't know if there was one. That's my honest assessment. And I may not be the best person to decide that because I'm so in it. And if you talk to anyone who knows me, any of my friends and colleagues, they'll let you know, even my team. I am the most heads down person ever.
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My thing is I just show up, I get it done, and then I'm either off, meaning I'm completely unplugged and into another space in my life. Then when I come back, I go heads down again. Because I've been doing this now, and it's been 22 years, so it's a really long time. I think going back to the traits, one of my best traits is my consistency trait. When I first started
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creating content on a weekly basis. It was through a newsletter, the cheesiest title ever called Magical Moments. It was awesome. That was the best I could do at that time. And I would send out a newsletter every week nonstop. And then actually once I got a puppy, it was the first dog I ever had in my life, Kuma. He's 13 now.
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When I got him, I couldn't blog anymore because raising a puppy and training a puppy takes a lot of time. If anyone listening has ever done it, you know it's a lot of work. And I was like, oh, I need to just turn on my computer because I remembered from my teaching fitness days, I was like, oh, I can easily look at a camera. And so then it became MarieTV.
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And I'm saying all this because the consistency and the momentum that has built over time, there wasn't one moment. I think it's the long game that has allowed me to create What for me has been a really beautiful experience of business and a beautiful experience of being able to connect with people.
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There were certainly beautiful moments and I hope that there's many more, but I don't think that there was one that really did it. It was the relentlessness of commitment and consistency that I think has helped me create what we have today.
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And as the years went on, some of those answers would change, but there was never just one answer. And I didn't realize that that was even odd or different until really my college years. I remember a lot of people seemed to have a very distinct, definitive vision for what they wanted to do. You know, I want to be a doctor or I want to be a lawyer or I want to be whatever it was.
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And I still had like 15 things that sounded really intriguing to me. And when I started my career after graduating, I went to Seton Hall University in South Orange, New Jersey. My first job was actually on Wall Street on the floor of the New York Stock Exchange. And I was pumped. I was so excited because it's like the financial mecca of the universe.
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Back in those days, this is like the late 90s, there were actually no chairs on the floor. And I'm a person who has a lot of energy. So I was like, oh, this is so cool. cool. I'm going to be running around all day. This is amazing. And after about six months into that job, I was super grateful for the work because I'm the first in my family to go to college.
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And my parents, they just busted their buns to be able to even give me an education. And I took that very, very seriously. But after about six months, I started hearing this voice inside that said, this isn't who you are. This isn't what you're meant to do. This isn't what you're supposed to be. And I was like, that's strange.
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And my mom's a little woman and she had probably lost, I don't know, 15 to 20 pounds to be perfectly honest with you. She was like a skeleton. And she, this was back when there was landlines. So she had the phone like wrapped around her hand and blood was drained out of it. And she's on the phone crying to her mother, my grandmother, who was in Florida. And she's like, I have nothing.
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I have nothing. Do you understand that? I have nothing. And then she hung up the phone and she leaned down, bent down because I was small and she put her hands on my shoulders and her forehead was next to mine and she shook me. She said, Marie, don't be stupid like I was. Do you see what I'm going through right now? Don't ever let a man control your money.
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And I tried to kind of push that voice away, but it kept getting louder and louder and louder until one day I remember being at work and starting to feel sick, like physically ill, started to feel dizzy, like I couldn't really breathe. And I said to my boss, I said, hey, can I just run out and get a coffee real fast? It was at a kind of slower time during the day. He's like, yeah, no problem.
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Don't ever let anyone control your destiny. Don't be stupid like me. I need you to grow up. I need you to be independent. I need you to take care of yourself. don't be stupid like I was. And I'm not kidding you, Holla. Like at eight, first of all, I was terrified because I had never seen my mom that distraught. Second of all, my dad's an amazing person.
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So I was heartbroken because every kid, most of us, right? We just want our families to be together. And so I formed this little understanding, this little equation, which was this, was that not having enough money means that you're going to lose love. Not having enough money means that families are going to get broken up and not having enough money is a thing that I never want.
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And I promised myself that I was going to grow up and somehow figure out how to make so much money that it would never take away love again. And I remember even as a kid hearing other stories from other kids I knew because their families were getting divorced too. And so I had these fantasies of like, oh, well, I'm going to earn so much that I can help other people with enough money as well.
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And so that was kind of a weird but strange and amazing thing that got planted in me that grew into a desire, a hunger, a commitment to be financially free. It definitely was not a straight line because like I was sharing earlier in this conversation, I got myself in piles and piles of debt after school. So I was certainly not good at it.
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I think for most of us, there's a lot of mixed messages that we absorb around money, whether that is from our family, from society, our friends, the media, a lot of mixed signals about whether we should want it. Is it okay to want it? You shouldn't have it. Are you spiritual? Are you a good person? Like so much stuff. that most of us need to work through.
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But that was the genesis for me of having that seed planted of going like, nope, I don't know how, but I'm gonna figure out how to earn so much that it's not gonna be a problem.
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Yeah. Well, a couple of things. One, should you be interested? And again, this is only an invitation, but if you're ever like, you know what, I'm kind of done with this. I still want to be wildly successful, but I don't want to drive myself into the ground. You need to consider coming to do Time Genius. It's amazing.
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It'll keep all of your best qualities and kind of let go, at least for me, of some of the ones that have grown to be destructive. So for me, probably one of the biggest wake-up calls was actually in 2020 because I had been really going at it hard for a while. And it was like a fish in water. It's like, I don't know any different. This is just me. This is what I do. This is how I do it.
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And there was never a problem with it. It certainly wasn't a burden because I love my work. And it showed up a few times in my relationship with Josh, my partner. We've been together 20 years where he's like... hey, working a lot. And I'm like, yeah, this is what it takes, dude. Like this is what it's about. And so we've definitely had sparring issues over time.
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And I think I dialed it down a little bit because the truth is my relationship needed more space and needed more attention and if it was going to thrive. But in 2020, I started having all of these weird and unusual pains in my body, which I had never had before. And I had always taken really good care of my health and
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So I left and I didn't go to get coffee. I made a beeline to the nearest church and I sat on the steps and I cried. I cried my eyes out because I felt like such a loser because I knew logically and intellectually that I was so I was so grateful to have work, which included a steady paycheck. It included health benefits. I felt like I was doing good by my family.
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as conscious as I can be as a dancer and as a fitness person, you know, movement is part of my life, but things just started to fall apart. And I remember getting all of my blood work done and a doctor said to me after she reviewed my blood work, she's like, Marie, it is a miracle you're able to get up every day. Like your adrenals are shot.
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Then we discovered all of these tumors inside of me, including one the size of a grapefruit growing outside of my uterus, pushing all of the other organs out of place. And it turns out I had to have an urgent hysterectomy to make the pain stop. And so after that surgery, the recovery is like, you can't really do much for like six to eight weeks. It's just like your body needs to heal.
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It's a major surgery. You cannot work out. You can walk and you walk gently, but you just have to really chill. And I'm not kidding you. I have never taken six weeks off in my life. I started babysitting when I was nine. And I was like, even just the prospect, I remember even when I heard like, no, no, no, you're not going to be able to do anything for six weeks.
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It was like such a record scratch moment. But what was so cool about that was in the stillness and in the requirement to just be, I was able to see how much my patterning of drivenness had exceeded what was necessary. And it was as though this drive was driving me rather than me being in control. And there was just layers of it that I was like, This is not even productive.
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And I am like really about efficiency and productivity. And I'm like overdoing it in certain areas. And it's causing my body to break down, which is like my sacred vessel in this lifetime. Like this is nuts, Marie. You know, you can't see things or learn the lessons until they're ready for you.
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But there was something in that stillness that gave me a perspective that quite frankly, I just didn't have before because I was so, it was such a habit to go so fast and so hard that I didn't know there was even another option.
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You got to come take it. You'll love it.
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In my six weeks and so like I had, I've always been obsessed with productivity because again, I love what I do. And I'm always like, well, how do we maximize our time on earth? Like, how do you get the most out of being here? The things that you want to create, the impact you want to make, the different adventures that you want to have.
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So it's always been a place of interest for me, a place of study. And I love studying neuroscience and I love studying efficiency and effectiveness and all those beautiful things.
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And when I really started to understand that I was so addicted to like overwhelm and had put myself in a place of burnout, I started to recognize that I was like, wait a minute, this is like two different worlds, two different paradigms where we're so enculturated to believe that if we're not on our phones 24 seven, if we're not constantly engaging and creating content,
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and trying to reach for more, more, more and bigger and bigger and bigger that somehow we're not hungry enough or we're not driven enough. So I started understanding, I was like, it basically came to me this concept of like, there's the world of time stress, which most of the world is caught in. Here's a stat that might blow your mind.
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But at the same time, the truth was I was miserable and I felt like I was dying a slow death. And I didn't know how to reconcile those two things. The first signal I got from above was actually, it said, call your dad. And back in those days, I still had, it was like flip phone days. So I took the flip phone out of my like dark green jacket. That's what all the traders had.
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Did you know that on average, right now these days, the average American will now spend the equivalent of 44 years of their life staring at screens? No, I didn't know that. 44 years of our life. I don't know about you, Mine is like 60 years for sure. But I don't think the purpose of a human life is to spend 44 years or 66 years staring at screens.
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And just when I started to really do some research into the stats and I started, I actually asked our audience, I sent out this survey. And I just said, hey, I'm investigating this topic. I'm curious if you have any struggles around productivity or burnout or getting things done or feeling like no matter how hard you go, it's never enough.
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And when you're working, you're like, oh God, I really need to rest. But you feel so guilty for taking rest that you don't take a rest. And then when you take a rest, you're like, oh, I should be working because I have all these other ideas and I need to get ahead. And oh my God, you don't even, the responses, there was like 7,000 in-depth responses in like two days. It was insane.
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And when I started to look at those responses, it became so apparent to me that most of the world was caught, trapped in this awful paradigm that I called time stress, where you feel like no matter how hard you go, it's not hard enough, that you can't take a break, that you're lazy if you even want to sit down and rest for like five minutes, that no matter what you do, it's not enough, that you're starting to feel some anxiety, some depression, some burnout, and you feel ashamed about that.
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And you feel like that if you take a break or slow down, that everything you've worked so hard for is probably going to fall apart. And that's the world a lot of people are living in. And they're plastering on smiles and saying, but I got it. I got it together. I got it together. Or they feel like they have to hold it together.
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They don't realize that there's this whole other possibility of the paradigm I call being a time genius, which is where you can actually get all the things that you want to get done and then some and not feel that dread and not run yourself into the ground and not do things that are ineffective and not chase these goals or this cultural mandate for more that honestly is sometimes you don't want everything to grow indefinitely.
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Think about cancer cells.
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Yeah.
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That's something you don't want more of. And so sometimes actually the secret to getting more out of life of what we really want, which includes abundance and adventure and success, actually requires us doing less. That's not a message we get very often. But anyway, we could keep talking and I want to be quiet because I'm sure you have more questions.
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I would say one is, I know this sounds really basic, but a lot of people don't do it, is really shift every notification on every electrical device you have to the off position, default it to off. Do not let yourself be interrupted by other people's ideas, agendas, or notifications. That includes text messages. That includes Slack. That includes email. That includes every social platform.
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One of the biggest things that crushes our ability to do deep focus work is interruptions and distractions. And when you start setting those notifications to off, like you're going to feel a little uncomfortable at first. You're like, oh, am I not important? No one's reaching out to me. Is it too quiet? But I will tell you, you'll get your core work done
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so fast and then you'll have so much more space and bandwidth to play and have fun and interact with people and have real conversations and not be toast at the end of your day. So that's one thing. The other thing is I always advise people to make a success plan, not a to-do list. So success plan, it's not just semantics.
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And I called my dad and I was crying. I was like crying the ugly cry where like there's snot's coming out of your nose and you just can't breathe. And I was like, dad, I'm so sorry. I'm a man. And when I finally shut up, and took a breath. He's like, Ree, stop. He's like, you've been working since you were nine years old. I'm not worried about you figuring out how to keep a roof over your head.
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It's actually the framing that's really important is you take four minutes at the end of your day, So before you wrap up for the day and not to wait until five, six, seven, eight o'clock when your brain's freaking toast and you're running on fumes, do it like after lunch at like one or two or something like that. Take four minutes and map out your success plan for the following day.
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Are there any core meetings that you have to get to? Is there any place you need to show up and be on time? And what are the one to three, not 15, not 27, what are the one to three really high value projects, tasks, to-dos that you really do need to get done and have those on that list only? And a success plan rather than a to-do list, first of all, it frames you up to have a successful day.
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B, you're able to wake up and hit the ground running because you know exactly how your ideal day should unfold. And when you don't stuff it with 17, 15, 30 things, you have enough margin to be able to be responsive to the Oshitake moments of life. The internet fails. Technology doesn't work. Something happens with a member of your family.
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If there's enough white space in there, there's enough margin for you to be able to not only get your most important tasks done because you've identified what those are in advance, but there's enough wiggle room to be able to not let your life get out of control or for you to feel out of control dealing with it.
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one thing they can do today to become more profiting tomorrow? Well, if you're a business owner, you might want to take a look at expanding either your prices or your offerings to offer something that is either a little more premium or that is catered to an audience who is happy, willing, and able to spend more on something that's a little more white glove or a little bit more exclusive.
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You know what? The biggest lesson that I continue to bring myself back to, and I feel like it's like one of my life lessons in this incarnation on earth, is to be in joy as much as humanly possible, even when things are hard, even when things feel uncertain, is to show up and to be in joy because the journey's not gonna last that long. And it goes faster and faster and faster.
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And the more that you show up in joy, that vibration, it helps you profit in more ways than one. You have access to greater creativity. You have better connections with the people around you. And the journey actually becomes a lot more fun.
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So marieforleo.com, it's M-A-R-I-E-F-O-R-L-E-O.com is kind of the main website. We've got hundreds of episodes of Marie Forleo, of the Marie Forleo podcast and MarieTV. On all the socials, it's at Marie Forleo. And I think on the website, there's a great free kind of coaching download. It's called How to Get Anything You Want.
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But he's like, here's the secret to life. You're going to be working for at least the next 40 or 50 years. You have got to find something you love. And if going to work every day at this place makes you this sick that you ran out and you're crying in the middle of the day at the church, like you can quit. You'll do what you did. You'll bartend. You'll figure it out.
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So it's like a little private coaching session, but you can download it and take it with you anywhere and it's 100% free.
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But you need to find something you love. And that was like such a huge permission slip for me because I realized in that moment, while my dad didn't tell me how to find something I loved, he gave me permission to do so and really reinforce the fact that livelihood needs to not fully, but finding something that genuinely aligns with your strengths and your skills is vital for all of us.
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And so the only clues I had really was that I was always a super creative child. So one of those 17 things that I always wanted to be was an artist. So I had this, I used to paint, I used to draw. I thought maybe I wanted to be an animator for Disney, but I also had a real passion around small business. My dad was a small business owner.
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And so I was fascinated with business and money and that kind of aspect of life too. And so I said to myself, okay, I have these two sides of me, what do I do with them? And the first idea that came to mind was actually the world of magazine publishing. There's the ad side, which is around money and sales. And then there's the editorial side, which is very creative.
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And so I went to a temp agency in New York City and I said, I want to work in magazines. I don't care which magazine, I don't care where it is, just get me any position. I'll be like the lowly assistant. I don't care. And so they placed me as an ad assistant at Gourmet Magazine. It's a part of Condé Nast Publications back in the day. And I remember I was like, oh, this is awesome.
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My old environment, 99.9% men, this new environment, it was a lot more mixed and balanced. I was like, this is really cool. My boss was a woman. And then also my big boss, the publisher was also this like incredible woman. I was like, oh, this is great. I've never seen this before. And after about six months in that job, the same voice came back.
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It started small, like Marie, this isn't who you are. This isn't what you're supposed to do. This isn't what you're supposed to be. And I was like, what? what is going on? What's wrong with me? Where's this voice coming from? I really want to work. I really want to earn money. I really want to contribute. But I couldn't stand going to an office every day.
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And so logically, I was like, okay, let me just step back here and try and look at my situation objectively. Wall Street, money, money, money, ad sales, more money, numbers. Maybe I've leaned too heavy into the business side. Maybe I've really been starving my creative self. So I said, okay. went to HR and said, look, if you have any position at any magazine on the editorial side, I'll take it.
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I don't care if I'll take a pay cut. It's a lateral move. It's a down move. Just any opportunity, I'll take it. So they found me a position at a Mademoiselle, which was a women's fashion magazine, editorial side fashion department. I was like, oh my God, this has got to be it. I'm going to be working with designers. I'm going to be seeing new products and be helping with layouts, photo shoots.
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This is amazing. And for the first couple of months, it was really cool. It was novel. I learned all kinds of new things, different environment, amazing. Of course, within, I don't know, four or five months, the voices came back again. Holla, this time I was like, there is something wrong with me. Like I feel broken.
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Do I have some kind of cognitive like dysfunction where I can't commit to anything? All of my friends are getting raises. getting married, starting to like build their whole lives. And here I am years after graduation, just wanting to quit my next job. Like nothing was making sense. And I felt so terrified. I felt like such a loser. It was awful.
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And there was one day at work when I was on the internet and I discovered this article and it was about a new profession at the time. It's about 1999. the new profession was called coaching. You have to get that in the late nineties, nobody had heard of coaching. Like this was like groundbreaking, right? And I remember reading that article and it was as though a Christmas tree lit up inside of me.
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It was as though the clouds parted and little angels came out and it was like, oh, like this is what you're supposed to do. But at the same time, you know, I was 23 years old and the mean voice in my head said, what are you Are you kidding me? You're 23. Who the heck's going to hire a 23-year-old life coach? You haven't even lived life yet. You're in piles and piles of debt.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
You can't seem to hold down a job. This is going to be one more thing you fail at. So I had that going on, but I couldn't deny that in my body, And my intuition told me that there was something there that I was meant to follow. And I signed up on the spot for a three-year coach training program. I was doing that at night, on the weekends, kept my magazine job during the day.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And then I got a call from the HR department and they had a promotion for me to go move up, bigger paycheck, better position, to be a part of Vogue magazine. arguably one of the top fashion magazines in the world. And that was my fork in the road. Do I stay on the safe path with the paycheck and the health benefits and like a career that people actually understand what the hell it is?
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Or do I quit and do this weird ass life coaching thing that no one has ever heard of? I have no idea how to even turn it into a business. And it sounds ridiculous when I say it out loud. So I chose that path. I gave up my job and I went back to bartending and waiting tables, which I did all throughout college. And I figured out how to build a coaching practice during the day.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So that's kind of the through line of being a multi-passionate kid, not knowing what that was to kind of getting me to the place where, you know, and I'll pause because I'm sure we have other questions, but we can kind of take it all the way through.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Okay. Signing up for that program felt really significant to me because I just basically, you know, graduated from school just a few years earlier. So I was still in that mode of being like, I am a student.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Like when you want a new skill, you go put yourself in an environment to gain those skills and capabilities and everything that they taught and all of the topics and what we would talk about in terms of communication, in terms of supporting other people, creating frameworks, understanding how to listen and to ask questions. Those things felt like second nature to me.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
They felt like areas where I was so excited to learn as opposed to things that I went through in college where it was like, oh, you know, I'm rolling my eyes to get through every topic. Like there was no resonance there. So that was my first clue that I was onto something is I really, really enjoyed learning.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Second part of my coach training was actually that you should not wait to get what we called at that time practice clients. It was like, Hey, just work with people for free. Like that was kind of a part of how they told you that you're going to build a business and build your confidence was not to go out there and like pretend that you're further along than you are.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
But for me, it looked like reaching out to every single girlfriend that I had. And because I was bartending and waiting tables, people would always ask me like, hey, what else do you do? Are you an actress? I'm like, no, dude, I'm a coach. Like I could actually help you reach a goal or set a strategy or do this. And so I was
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
just absolutely shameless about asking people if I could work with them for free. Like I just did everything I possibly could. And in that process, was it uncomfortable? Yeah, but I had failed at so many other things. And that was so much more painful than actually trying to do something that I really believed in that it gave me the motivation to just put myself out there.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And then the worst thing that people could say was no. And I was like, that's not that big of a deal. Yeah. It was through that experience of just continuing to work through my fear and my embarrassment. And then when I started getting people results and how they're like, wow, I feel so much better after our conversation. So that started to kind of fill the well of like, oh, I could do this.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Like, this is awesome. And it didn't happen overnight. It took me a very long time, but that's kind of how the process started.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
So I didn't realize the 10-year test until a few years later and we'll unpack what that concept is and how people can use it because I think it's actually, it's so helpful for any of us, no matter what your age is, no matter what stage of life you're in. That decision in terms of not saying yes to Vogue was a very body-led, intuition-led decision. Here's what I mean by that.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Because I had had that experience on Wall Street where going to the same place every single day started making me feel like I was dying a slow death. And then I quit that job and got out of it. And then I went through a similar thing when I was at Gourmet Magazine, where I respected all the people that I worked for. I appreciated them.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
I was grateful to have a job, but I couldn't deny that every single day it was like, I can't do this for the rest of my life. I don't want to climb this corporate ladder. What's going on? So it was a very visceral feeling.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
And then to have that a third time when I was at Mademoiselle and then to have this incredible opportunity for a promotion come to me and everything, every single cell in my body was screaming no, I don't even feel like it was a decision. It was something I had to do.
Young and Profiting with Hala Taha (Entrepreneurship, Sales, Marketing)
Marie Forleo on The Mindset Every Entrepreneur Needs to Succeed in Life and Business | Entrepreneurship | YAPClassic
Yeah. Fear versus intuition. It's a big thing. My best strategy that I've taught to probably hundreds of thousands of people at this point is a really simple thing that anyone can do whenever you're faced with a possibility, an opportunity, something that you're facing where if you said yes, you're like, wow, this decision could change my life or this opportunity could mean the world to me.