Marc Andreessen
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And the reason for that is not because I want America to dominate the world, but because I think the world's a much better place if America wins because the American values of freedom and democracy are superior values to, let's say, totalitarian authoritarian values. Specifically, though, I don't want America to win like a war. I don't want to have a war.
And the reason for that is not because I want America to dominate the world, but because I think the world's a much better place if America wins because the American values of freedom and democracy are superior values to, let's say, totalitarian authoritarian values. Specifically, though, I don't want America to win like a war. I don't want to have a war.
I don't think we should go to war with China. I hope we never go to war with China. That would be very destructive. I would like to see America win this Cold War 2.0 the way we won the first Cold War. So basically what happened in the first Cold War was the Soviets basically decided by 1989 the Cold War was unwinnable. They were not going to be able to win. Their economy was not as effective.
I don't think we should go to war with China. I hope we never go to war with China. That would be very destructive. I would like to see America win this Cold War 2.0 the way we won the first Cold War. So basically what happened in the first Cold War was the Soviets basically decided by 1989 the Cold War was unwinnable. They were not going to be able to win. Their economy was not as effective.
They were falling behind in technology. They were entering various kinds of social and economic crises as a result of their dictatorial approach to running countries. They had become very corrupt. Their system was not actually working. it wasn't performing. This is the famous story.
They were falling behind in technology. They were entering various kinds of social and economic crises as a result of their dictatorial approach to running countries. They had become very corrupt. Their system was not actually working. it wasn't performing. This is the famous story.
If you go to the two grocery stores, go to a grocery store in Moscow and a grocery store in New Jersey, and you're just like blown away by how much better the grocery store is in New Jersey. You just want it to become basically so obvious that actually the correct thing for the Soviet Union in 1989 was to just simply say, we're done. We're not fighting this anymore. We're done.
If you go to the two grocery stores, go to a grocery store in Moscow and a grocery store in New Jersey, and you're just like blown away by how much better the grocery store is in New Jersey. You just want it to become basically so obvious that actually the correct thing for the Soviet Union in 1989 was to just simply say, we're done. We're not fighting this anymore. We're done.
We're going to stop threatening you. We're going to stop competing with you. We're going to stop all this stuff. We're just going to be country. We're going to be a normal country and we're going to have normal relationships and the Russian people are much better off as a consequence.
We're going to stop threatening you. We're going to stop competing with you. We're going to stop all this stuff. We're just going to be country. We're going to be a normal country and we're going to have normal relationships and the Russian people are much better off as a consequence.
I would like to see the CCP and the Chinese people at some point basically just decide, look, there's no point in having this fight. We should just be partners. We should just be partners with America. We should be trading partners. We should have peaceful coexistence and we should love each other. And it's all great. We just don't need to have this fight.
I would like to see the CCP and the Chinese people at some point basically just decide, look, there's no point in having this fight. We should just be partners. We should just be partners with America. We should be trading partners. We should have peaceful coexistence and we should love each other. And it's all great. We just don't need to have this fight.
I believe that the way to win this fight is not to get ultra aggressive. The way to win this fight is to be strong so that we know that we can obviously defend ourselves if push comes to shove. but fundamentally to double down on our values and double down on our values of openness and freedom and democracy and peace. And in that sense, to be strong, but not threatening.
I believe that the way to win this fight is not to get ultra aggressive. The way to win this fight is to be strong so that we know that we can obviously defend ourselves if push comes to shove. but fundamentally to double down on our values and double down on our values of openness and freedom and democracy and peace. And in that sense, to be strong, but not threatening.
So it's like, yes, if you fight with us, we're going to win the hard way. But what we'd like to do is just have peace and understanding and trade. and freedom. And we would like the Chinese people to flourish in the exact same way the American people flourish and everybody builds a better world.
So it's like, yes, if you fight with us, we're going to win the hard way. But what we'd like to do is just have peace and understanding and trade. and freedom. And we would like the Chinese people to flourish in the exact same way the American people flourish and everybody builds a better world.
And this is a big part of my philosophical discussion I get in with people in DC, which is like the impulse that people in DC can get into where they're like, we need to lock things down, control things, ban things, prohibit things. We need to do all these things, deny things to other countries. It's like, okay, but are we sabotaging ourselves? Are we betraying our values?
And this is a big part of my philosophical discussion I get in with people in DC, which is like the impulse that people in DC can get into where they're like, we need to lock things down, control things, ban things, prohibit things. We need to do all these things, deny things to other countries. It's like, okay, but are we sabotaging ourselves? Are we betraying our values?
Are we sabotaging our ultimate geopolitical strategic position and the benefits of being America and being the beacon of freedom and hope and democracy in the world? In other words, are we going to win by becoming more like China or more like the Soviet Union, or are we going to win by becoming more like America? And so I'm kind of always pushing on the side of, no, let's be more like America.
Are we sabotaging our ultimate geopolitical strategic position and the benefits of being America and being the beacon of freedom and hope and democracy in the world? In other words, are we going to win by becoming more like China or more like the Soviet Union, or are we going to win by becoming more like America? And so I'm kind of always pushing on the side of, no, let's be more like America.