Marc Andreessen

But like, I think they literally believe, you know, when they say like Trump is Hitler, you know, by the way, it appears Obama doesn't believe Trump is Hitler anymore because he's like joking around with him at the funeral. But like a lot of these guys, you know, the fire's in the eyes, right? And look, it's not even just the US, right?

But like, I think they literally believe, you know, when they say like Trump is Hitler, you know, by the way, it appears Obama doesn't believe Trump is Hitler anymore because he's like joking around with him at the funeral. But like a lot of these guys, you know, the fire's in the eyes, right? And look, it's not even just the US, right?

It's like, you know, it's the rise of, you know, UKIP, you know, Brexit was an equally, you know, shocking, alarming thing, the rise of Farage. It's obviously the German party, AFD. It's obviously that's, you know, the Nazi party 2.0. And so this like superheated rhetoric and actions between 2021 and 2024 just like went like completely bananas.

It's like, you know, it's the rise of, you know, UKIP, you know, Brexit was an equally, you know, shocking, alarming thing, the rise of Farage. It's obviously the German party, AFD. It's obviously that's, you know, the Nazi party 2.0. And so this like superheated rhetoric and actions between 2021 and 2024 just like went like completely bananas.

And so we came in, like I said, in May 24 at the very height of that. And we were like, oh my God, like they're gonna kill us. Like they're gonna kill our companies. They're gonna kill open source. By the way, if you kill open source AI, you also kill all academic research. So the universities are going to be completely cut out of the loop.

And so we came in, like I said, in May 24 at the very height of that. And we were like, oh my God, like they're gonna kill us. Like they're gonna kill our companies. They're gonna kill open source. By the way, if you kill open source AI, you also kill all academic research. So the universities are going to be completely cut out of the loop.

Not only did we ban them making nuclear weapons, we also banned them from making nuclear power, which we now regret. But anyway.

Not only did we ban them making nuclear weapons, we also banned them from making nuclear power, which we now regret. But anyway.

It depends. This is a longer conversation we need to have. I would just tell you the national security part was not the motivator here. And by the way, the national security stuff, those arguments aren't over. That's still going to play out. The political dimension of it overwhelmingly. I mean, it was just crystal clear. You can see it in the eyes. You can hear it in the words.

It depends. This is a longer conversation we need to have. I would just tell you the national security part was not the motivator here. And by the way, the national security stuff, those arguments aren't over. That's still going to play out. The political dimension of it overwhelmingly. I mean, it was just crystal clear. You can see it in the eyes. You can hear it in the words.

You can see it in the behavior. We have a lot of Democratic friends of good standing who are major donors into both the Biden campaign and even the Kamala campaign. They came back with the same reports.

You can see it in the behavior. We have a lot of Democratic friends of good standing who are major donors into both the Biden campaign and even the Kamala campaign. They came back with the same reports.

you know, is completely consistent, which is this is social media was a catastrophic mistake for political reasons because it is literally killing democracy and literally leading to the re-arrival of Hitler. And AI is going to be even worse. And we need we need to take it right now.

you know, is completely consistent, which is this is social media was a catastrophic mistake for political reasons because it is literally killing democracy and literally leading to the re-arrival of Hitler. And AI is going to be even worse. And we need we need to take it right now.

And so anyway, and this is why I took you through the long preamble earlier, because like at this point, it's like, OK, we are no longer dealing with rational people like we're no longer dealing with people we can deal with. And, you know, that's the day we walked out and we stood in the parking lot of the West Wing and, you know, took We look at each other and we're like, yep, we're for Trump.

And so anyway, and this is why I took you through the long preamble earlier, because like at this point, it's like, OK, we are no longer dealing with rational people like we're no longer dealing with people we can deal with. And, you know, that's the day we walked out and we stood in the parking lot of the West Wing and, you know, took We look at each other and we're like, yep, we're for Trump.

I mean, look, let's start by saying, like, one of the things I now firmly believe is I can't predict politics. Like, I feel like I failed to predict most of the important things that happened in the last decade on anything political or, you know, at the national level. So I will try very hard to not make any predictions. I can tell you what they say.

I mean, look, let's start by saying, like, one of the things I now firmly believe is I can't predict politics. Like, I feel like I failed to predict most of the important things that happened in the last decade on anything political or, you know, at the national level. So I will try very hard to not make any predictions. I can tell you what they say.

And by the way, what they say in private is exactly what they say in public. Like, I have not picked up on any disconnect at all. I actually think that... They're incredibly transparent, and the president's incredibly transparent in what he says. And the high-level thing they say with respect to anything involving tech or business is we want America to win.

And by the way, what they say in private is exactly what they say in public. Like, I have not picked up on any disconnect at all. I actually think that... They're incredibly transparent, and the president's incredibly transparent in what he says. And the high-level thing they say with respect to anything involving tech or business is we want America to win.