Manon
Appearances
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
Yeah, well, that was the first one that did some evaluation of really the medical intervention. The Dutch protocol. The Dutch protocol.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
These kids were like, yeah, good, well-functioning, nice kids doing their thing.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
In general, I think people were sort of convinced, yeah, this is so clear-cut if you look at this. Yeah.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
But... It's scientifically really, really difficult to think about what sort of control group that would be.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
Not only the medical approach, but it's the whole approach. So it's psychological assessment, but also psychological counseling, if necessary, addressing really psychiatric problems, family difficulties, family challenges.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
Yeah, I don't want to pinpoint to colleagues that they are sort of the source of the things that are the criticism that's happening now. It's only quite recently that I've really been convinced that, yeah, maybe especially in the United States... There is approaches that are different from the approach that we are doing here.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
So these were the very first children that were treated here. They called themselves gender kids. I have gender because the whole word gender identity disorder was too complicated. So they just said, I have gender.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
That assessment was several sessions over a longer period of time and actually really get to know the family, get to know the kids.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
So it takes at least half a year. But what we say, we take the time we need. So you cannot pinpoint me on how much time we have.
The Protocol
The Gender Kids
Well, yeah, of course we needed proof of the effectiveness of the treatment.