Mallory McMorrow
Appearances
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh, yeah.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Hate is having a moment. Let's just be real about that. But that's having a moment. But it's on us. It's on us to decide if hate is going to win. And we're not going to let it.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
There are moments that will break you. This is not that moment. This moment will challenge us, test us, and if it all feels like too much, that's their plan. They want to make you feel powerless, but you are not powerless. So you know what won't fix it? The same old crap out of Washington.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Do you know who will? We will. We need new leaders because the same people in D.C. who got us into this mess are not going to be the ones to get us out of it. I'm Mallory McMurrow. And yes, I'm running for U.S. Senate.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Ready to run through every wall. Let's go.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I was born in a small town where I pig sat for my neighbors. We're not going to go that far back. I... I ran for office for the first time after the 2016 election. I Googled how to run for office, took on a Republican incumbent in a Republican district and won.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
We flipped a district 20 points and I came in representing Mitt Romney's hometown, largely on the idea that residents looked at me and said, you remind me a lot of my daughter who left and went to Chicago or Denver or New York. Why did you come back? So I am now in my second term in the state Senate. I am the Senate majority whip, the first Democratic Senate majority whip since 1984.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And yeah, I announced for U.S. Senate yesterday, and the response has been incredible. But I think fundamentally, this is a time for new leadership to lead us out of the wilderness and lead us out of this moment. And that's a huge part of why I'm running.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Thank you. Thank you.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
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The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh, that's right. Elon Musk would not be successful without government subsidies. Tesla would not exist. SpaceX would not exist without government contracts and the amount of money that he makes from the government. I had a town hall recently... And I would traditionally get like five to 10 people who come to a state legislator's town hall. It's not exactly the hottest ticket in town.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
We had more than a hundred people. It was in a library and there was overflow into the hallway. And of that group, three people were fired federal workers, one from the VA, one from the NIH. And one woman who, you know, she stood up and said, I make 75% of our household income. And I cover my kids' healthcare costs. And I have a son with special needs, and he is not going to have healthcare.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
But she was so scared to even tell us what department she worked for, because the fear of retribution, there's no rhyme or reason. And to have this guy and these 20-something software engineers that he pulled over from X just go in and slash and burn or send an email like, tell me five things you did this week. And a woman from the NIH is like, well, I tried to cure cancer.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And that's what I did the week before that. And that's what I did the week before that. And guess what? We haven't cured it yet, but we have to keep trying. It's infuriating. And I've gotten emails from people who went straight into the VA or another federal department straight out of school who have been there for 30 years, this is their life's work, who've said, I've never applied for a job.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I don't have a resume. What do I do? This is what I do. And I do it because I care about the work and what I do for my community. And it's just heartbreaking and infuriating.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh, yeah, absolutely. It is. You know, I sit on the Appropriations Committee in the Michigan Senate and we had our first budget presentation. The governor presents to the legislature and that kind of kicks off the budget cycle and 42 percent of our state's budget. is federal dollars.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
So if there's a federal funding freeze, if there's a slash in departments, I mean, that directly impacts our state. And unlike the federal government, we can't run a deficit. We have to constitutionally pass a balanced budget every year.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
So I'm sitting in this hearing and one of my Republican colleagues on the state level raises his hand and he, you know, very blustery says, is this finally going to be the year that we cut off our addiction to federal funding? And I say, for the record, I'm like, they're our tax dollars.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Michigan is already a donor state, meaning we receive back a disproportionately lower amount of tax dollars than we send out. It's usually going to Southern states. So the idea that like, A, there's not an understanding of how... taxation works and policy works. And that we wouldn't fight tooth and nail to bring every single dollar back in is infuriating.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And we are really struggling right now as we think about the state budget to understand what are the impacts going to be? Are we going to be able to fund Medicare, Medicaid, school aid fund if the Department of Education closes that's about $2 billion that we lose, and that's school meals, that's IEPs, that's special education.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
All of those programs go away, and we don't have the ability to backfill it.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I mean, that... Let's just think about that for a second. I said yesterday in an interview that Michigan stands to be hit harder than just about any other state in the country based on Trump's chaotic tariff policy. And it hasn't even been 24 hours. He announced this, he brought out big charts and then complained about the wind and he didn't want the charts to be blown away.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And almost immediately, 900 people in Michigan have lost their jobs. Like, just think about that. This is not temporary pain or whatever Trump is trying to claim that it is where... we're going to be liberated from the rest of the world.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
This is 900 people who don't know if they're going to be able to pay their mortgage and don't know if they're going to be able to cover healthcare costs today, one day later. If that doesn't tell you that this is terrible policy, it's immediate and it's painful and it's devastating to our state.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Did you see it?
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I've run that race a few times. You run over the bridge to Canada and come back through the tunnel. It's the only international half marathon and marathon, I think, in the world.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Yeah, I mean, you know, there's automotive manufacturing and a car can travel back and forth across the border in the process of being assembled more than a dozen times before it's a final assembled vehicle. But then there's also just how we interact between Michigan and Canada. I mean, this is just like driving to the next town over.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
People cross the border every single day to work in Detroit or Canada in our hospitals or in one of the automakers. We've seen... Visits from Canada drop already 10%. I know the folks leading on Mackinac Island are really worried about this summer season.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
We have a lot of Canadian tourists who come and visit Mackinac Island and spend the summer on the Grand Porch and ride around on horses and eat fudge, and it's delightful. But if people don't come, that devastates our economy, on top of the fact that seasonal workers from Mackinac Island are almost entirely immigrants. So you're not going to have visitors.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
You're not going to have people to work for the summer. What do we do?
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I don't think you can overstate the chilling effect that it has, not only on immigrant workers, but on when we saw the federal funding freeze for Head Start. We held an oversight committee hearing in the state senate where I'm the vice chair of the oversight committee, and we brought in Head Start program directors who said –
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Beyond even the uncertainty of whether or not we're going to receive the funding, we cannot hire now. Nobody's applying. Nobody's coming in. And that is the hardest challenge of running any child care and early childhood education facility is hiring qualified workers. And people just do not want to apply for a job where they don't know that they're going to get paid.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
No, we shouldn't be afraid really to talk about any issue because then they get to own the conversation. I want to make sure that as we go out and we start this campaign, we are emphasizing that communities should be safe. I have served in a legislature where we've increased local revenue sharing to our cities year over year for police. I represent the city of Detroit.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
That's a huge priority is making sure that Our communities are safe, that criminals are held accountable. But we've had what we've seen here in Michigan, a couple of examples. There was a dad in Down River, so just kind of south of Detroit, who is a permanent resident here, has started a painting business, who was picked up by ICE.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
at gunpoint after dropping his son off his autistic son at school and they haven't seen him again you know they don't know where he is they haven't had a hearing and don't know where he is right now right and and to everybody in this community they're like this is this is our dad this is our neighbor this is a man who has never committed a single crime in the united states and And he's gone.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
There was also a woman last week. There was a story in the Detroit Free Press who she wanted to go to Costco. She lives in Detroit. She typed in Costco. The GPS accidentally took her. You want to talk about Canada to the one in Windsor instead of the one that's up by me in the suburbs. So she got in the car.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
You can just accidentally go to the Windsor Costco. You're taking your kids to Costco. You're following the GPS. And they were held in a detention center for days. This woman with her children, one of her kids developed a fever. They had no access. It was like ramen noodles. They could not have access to a lawyer. And now she's on the deportation list. It's...
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
This chaotic approach to people who have done nothing wrong. And, you know, you talk about the students being picked up. Like, in what world should writing an op-ed get you deported or sent to a detention center in a state... Have six guys with masks come up on you in the street like you're some fucking dangerous criminal. That is terrifying. And if...
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
We cannot articulate, you know, I'm going to be very clear in articulating, this is not keeping us safe. This is not ensuring that we are going after criminals. This is an approach that they get to show, you know, it's really disgusting what they're doing. It's a performance that is hurting people. And by the way, is not actually forwarding any policy about comprehensive immigration reform.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
There's nothing on the table to fix this system.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh, it's lose yourself. It's on my running soundtrack. It's classic all the time.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Running and yoga. Okay.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I get up at a normal hour and make a cup of cold brew coffee and sit down. It's really at the same level.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh, Michigan, Mount Rushmore. The Mackinac Bridge. Mighty Mac.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh, on the Michigan Mount Rushmore, I think Gretchen Whitmer. And then I'm going to go a completely different direction. George Romney. Oh, that's nice. Eminem.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And Aretha Franklin.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Redhead Mount Rushmore. Was Shirley Temple at Redhead?
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
No, can I tell you? I went on a blind date with a redhead once and we sat down and we were having a lovely time and the waitress comes over and says, it's so nice to see a brother and sister spending time together.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And I was like, this has been fun. I'm never gonna talk to you again. Thanks.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Oh my God, of course. Are you kidding? Like, let's just go back in time and give him like an EGOT. He should have an Emmy and a Grammy and an Oscar and just like give him all the awards so he doesn't run.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
She's four. Yeah.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
I signed her up for, speaking of running, there's a Corktown in Detroit. There's a St. Patrick's Day 5K. They have a kid's quarter mile that I signed her up for and she was so excited. So we run right in front of the new Michigan Central, the train station that's been reopened. And she wore a little tutu and she got a medal and she wore that medal for like four straight days.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
And she told everybody in the grocery store, she yelled at them, she gave them high fives. She said, I I'm a Corktown runner. I'm the fastest kid alive. Even though she saw every kid running past her, she didn't care. And it was the cutest thing she's done.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
We need new leadership in the Senate. Full stop.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Super Mario Kart.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Mario. Mario. It's a meat. Mario.
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S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Yeah. Yeah. I grew up in central New Jersey, which I swear is a real place, but that is full Mario country.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Are you happy about your new... Oh, it was the best decision I have ever made. Best decision. I ran for office because this has made me the best version of myself, this place.
The Bulwark Podcast
S2 Ep1013: Mallory McMorrow and Tracy Alloway: A Self-Inflicted Crisis
Thanks, Tim. And I hope people come check us out at McMorrowForMichigan.com.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
Oh, yeah. I mean, people are pissed. They are livid to see that Trump and Elon Musk is just giving Elon Musk a chainsaw to slash and burn the government in a way that people did not vote for. This is directly impacting people's lives, and the Republicans are just running away and hiding from their own constituents.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
That's right. Yeah, I had a town hall in my district and a woman came out who works for a federally qualified health center. They do a lot of work with the VA. And she told me she can't even get a call back from the VA, that people there have either been fired, they're too scared to answer the phone, they are afraid to do their jobs.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
And this is no way to treat veterans is to just completely cut them off from their health care and their support system. And that's what's happening right now.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
I mean, you heard it right there in that focus group. We love Canada. Canada is our neighbor. You drive around Detroit, you take one wrong turn, you're in Canada. It happens all the time. We have people who cross the border every single day between Detroit and Canada to come to work, to see their family, to see their friends.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
The idea that we would treat our friend and our neighbor and our ally in this tit-for-tat tariff war is... Absolutely insane. And people are so angry. This is such an overreach. And as we saw, you know, it's bringing Canada and the United States together in protest against Donald Trump.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
The book is really to answer the question that I've heard from thousands of people across the country who said to me, I'm so overwhelmed. I want to do something and I have no idea where to start. So part of it is about my story, my very unlikely journey into politics. I quite literally Googled how to run for office in the wake of the 2016 election and found my footing and found my voice.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
So the book is a lot about what I've learned and how I've seen people change. find their own voice and be effective. Right now, what we're seeing at town halls is people not just asking Democrats to do something. They're asking what they can do, too.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
And it is going to require all of us to step up and use our voices and tell Donald Trump and this administration that they're not going to take our country away from us. And this book is a guide that I hope people take and use and learn how to do this themselves.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
People do want to see you fight and they want to see you fight with them. We can no longer accept things that we've seen on the federal level, like holding a press conference in front of the Capitol and telling people that you're fighting for them and then following up with a text message that says, I'm fighting for you. Give me $5. People want to know that we're in this together.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
People right now are raising their hands and saying, put me in coach. I'm ready. What do we do? And it requires getting out of Washington, getting into your communities, going to town halls, answering people's questions, and leading all of us to a place where we recreate this country in a way that isn't about hate and demonizing other people.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
It's about building a new American dream and that we do it together.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
It's insane, you know, the idea that you're sharing classified information in a text group. I mean, I think any of us who grew up in the Internet age in group chats, we know that You just don't do that. I think everybody responsible for this should be fired. And our new senator from Michigan, Alyssa Slotkin, has said just as much.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
You know, she served two tours in Iraq as part of the CIA alongside the military. This is incredibly dangerous. It's not a game. And it just goes to show how incompetent the people in this administration are. But we can't let them get away with it. We have to make sure we keep the pressure on and that we are clear-eyed about the path ahead to return competent people to all of these offices.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
First of all, that you should be scared. It's okay to be scared. It's okay to be anxious. It's okay to be angry about what's happening right now. We got an email from a constituent who saw that telehealth visits have been cut off and she's on Medicare. And she's like, this is a lifeline for me. I don't have transportation. I live alone. And I don't know what to do.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
And as Democrats, we have to reach out to people and tell them you have every right to be angry. Let's fight back together. Here is how we are going to build this back together. I see some corners of the Internet are kind of reveling in, you know, around and find out and treating people like you should have known what you were voting for.
The MeidasTouch Podcast
MI State Senator McMorrow on Why Hate Won’t Win
We have to win, and we win by bringing people back into the Democratic Party, by showing them that we have a path forward that is not about slashing all of these things that you worked so hard and pay for with your tax dollars. We are not about to give your tax dollars to Elon Musk and to Mark Zuckerberg.