Luke Brown
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Those become problems, then, because you have to point back. This is the whole thing. We made a joke at BlurryCon with the giant skeleton, which actually caused quite the... Yeah, honestly, shame on you.
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I was hoping we were going to get to that. The Facebook page was not happy about there being giant skeletons. But the idea is that this is part of the cover-up, if you will. And we've done this ad nauseum, Nate, and you guys have talked about it on your show as well, that they're... are countless, if not thousands, of stories of people digging up giant bones.
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Backstreet Blurries, dude.
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And then through every culture, ancient cultural civilization, there are stories of giants and there are depictions of giants. But this also becomes taboo.
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Well, it's good to be back in studio. Do we have a guest? I don't think we have one.
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I mean... I don't know a place where that isn't something... Ominous. Ominous or nefarious, right?
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That's fine, though. You know where that comes from, right? Let's not talk about it. That's Moses. That's fine. Stop, Luke. The symbol for medicine actually comes from the idea of what Moses holds up, the serpents on... Which is interesting. It's very interesting. And I feel like that's very positive. And it heals afflictions, which is a weird part of the Bible.
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Welcome, Ninjas or Butterflies.
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yeah like in 2026 i think i don't think it's for anything nefarious i think they're actually just trying to like preserve it which is great but like it does seem weird there's so many people visiting so much traffic there that like yeah you have these ancient structures that's another one that's interesting though like even at machu picchu the incan tradition the knowledge passed down is that they found it it was the abode of the gods that's like that's recorded like they found it yes there's some big ones i didn't know that tombo
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Oh, you're talking about the massive... I mean, Sacsayhuaman is the one that has these insane... They weigh more than anything.
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Andrew slept in here underneath the set.
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That's always the problem, right? And when we were at a Jantai Tambo, when Nate and I were there with Tim and our crew from Blurry, you can sit up on this – On this big mountain. This is always the thing too. The most impractical of building is they're moving these megalithic stones that are just tons and tons up on top of a mountain. Machu Picchu is on top of a mountain. Cusco is higher.
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It's on top of a mountain. And these stones aren't like... usually they don't quarry them right next door, right? In fact, at Jatay Tamba, you can see, they claim, we're talking a tour guide there, you can look across the next valley and you can see these places where rocks were supposedly rolled down the hill and they still are, you can see it on the mountain.
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It's torn, these roads in the mountain. But it's always the why, like... Yeah, but I think it's an insane amount of effort. It's like the pyramids. This is an insane amount of effort.
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Must be on a hill.
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From their fathers, right? From their angelic fathers that would have lived... In the heavenly realm. They would have lived in heaven. We saw this with Tim at BlurryCon. Actually, the Q&A was very fascinating. You guys hadn't come to town yet because you were there on Friday. But there was this idea of what are your thoughts on what heaven is like?
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Well, the conversation about heaven, though, is like, what does the Bible say, right? And it talks about roads and walls and mansions and grain.
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And it's just like, so, yeah, it really does make sense. And, like, Tim is very pragmatic. So we talk about Tim Alvarino on the show. He's...
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multi-time guest on the show but what he he's an I would say if you're one out of ten he's ten ten out of ten pragmatic right yeah he's like how do we practically talk about this and so if it's if it's grain or bread of heaven what is that you reverse engineer you go well they have to have grain and yeast and what maybe that's what they have in heaven so
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maybe the idea of the heavenly realm or this place is actually not too different from what we experience here. And that, to Nate's point, would be that if it's an advanced civilization, this is kind of where I think Graham goes but misses. There's this pre... civilization. That can be the golden age, but it also can be the idea of these beings and their knowledge of heaven, right?
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grow stuff on them and you can't dig into these so there's these pyramids all like well why would they all build the same things if they didn't have an origin oh and i say remember too though like if we ascribe to the flood and a lot of people connect the flood to the younger dryas incident right this is what graham talks about this this in this for what's believed to be a comic comet impact um
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or an asteroid impact that causes this huge thing.
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Right, but what survives? So this is what we do. We only know what we know, right? What survives is probably the stuff in stone. We don't have any wood structures. We don't really know what else was out there or what didn't survive, but what did survive. is anomalous now because, as we know, when the Spanish show up in Peru, the Incas are like, we didn't do that. We can't do that.
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We can't build your churches for you like this. They tried to do it, and they couldn't do it. Yeah, they couldn't do it.
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I think it was, dude. We can do it right now. Good job.
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You guys want to eat some Doritos from 85? We've got a couple bags, all right? Make it botulism. It's okay, though. It's all worth it.
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That's interesting. I think there's two ways to look at this. We have an episode coming out at some point, maybe out by the time we put this out, but with Dr. Michael Lake. And we talk a lot about Solomon and the mystery schools of Babylon, right? So one of the things, and this is right up your alley, guys, because this is where you guys make your money and this is your wheelhouse, but
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The secret societies that we see now, the Masons, the Illuminati, these secret societies, they are charged with carrying this sacred knowledge. This is part of what they do. They hold this secret, sacred knowledge. Solomon himself strayed into the mystery school space. He was trying to acquire all of this knowledge. At that point in time,
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the ideas of the mystery schools of Babylon were actually real things. They weren't these recreations, if you will, like we see with Freemasonry, with the Rosicrucians, with the Golden Dawn. They're these different secret societies that hold the sacred knowledge. So there's an interesting concept here. Did he... get some of that, perhaps some of that knowledge when he asked for wisdom?
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Or did he acquire some of that knowledge through the mystery schools of Babylon? And we see some of that construction because this is supposed to be, according to them, right? So take it what it is. And the darkness is, they're all liars, but...
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We did an episode in Florida, then we did one with you guys when you were here in Nashville last time, and we've become good friends. You guys just did a little cameo in BlurryCon with us. Yeah, dude. Which is a successful... Yeah, I was telling you, I love what you guys do. I mean, it's... I think Nate and I, with Blurry Creatures, like to... We have a lot of academic conversations.
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They're supposed to hold secrets from Antiluvian, pre-flood secrets that were passed down because they ascribe their, quote, theology or their mantra stuff to what essentially lines up as either a Nephilim or a watcher angel. These are these people that had these ideas of construction. They had gifts and construction ways to build that were gifted.
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It was the brown note, yes. Play it right now. That was actually it, and South Park has nailed it. They nailed a lot of things. They nailed it, and it's like... David played the secret chord that pleased the Lord, and everybody just pooped themselves.
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Well, they're disembodied spirits. What do you need technology for if you're not physical?
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And asking questions about the mysteries. We talked about the pyramids. You brought the pyramids up. What are your thoughts on the pyramids? What do you think they... We've had a lot of different people on the show talk about what they think they are for because I think if you are a thinking person that doesn't just only ascribe to the
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People have written books and made films, and it's... It's very much like teaching and academic, but I actually love what you guys do so much. I was telling Josh or Andy, Andrew, one of you guys at BlurryCon, I was just like, I love it so much. It's so fun. And you guys really resonate. I mean, you guys, not to toot your horn for you. No, toot it, please. We're all for toots.
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You're hitting your prostate stuff early. Get some cranberry juice.
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He could be here with us.
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Right? Like, so the idea that the Earth was created with a history built in? Yeah. That didn't really exist?
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We have to start talking about time then, which is a really fascinating thing because time itself is a construct of the universe. It is, and God is outside of space and time. Man has really created the idea of time, right? The Bible says that to God a day is a thousand years and a thousand years is a day. So you have this paradox that exists when it comes to talking about it.
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That's an interesting idea.
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He's got Scott's Weed and Feed. He's like, hey, there's going to be a problem here, but you've got to use this stuff. Let's make sure that we... They're not sponsored.
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Let's do it. Let's do it. What are some wild ones? Let's talk about some conspiracy theories that have come true, right? This is where you guys, this is really your wheelhouse. MKUltra, let's start with that. You've got 30 seconds to answer. We can start with that. Okay, yeah. So I've got a list here. Let me tell you, as we preface the list, this is from history.howstuffworks.com.
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So it's going to be procured. And it's definitely going to have a narrative. So this isn't going to be like in my mind, there are a lot of we've been around since 2020. Yeah. We're going to be honest. So we've seen a lot of things come true that were relegated to conspiracy theory. Yeah. Whether it be origins of a virus or fill in the blank. There's a lot of things. Easy. Murder. Yeah.
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More than a million subs on YouTube. Your reels go viral. You're crushing the real game. You guys have a lot of fun talking about everything from conspiracies to... Doing songs and... Poop stories. But what's cool is that you guys are Christians as well, doing this comedy thing. Number one comedy podcast in Barbados. That's right. That's right. Still standing.
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So these are 11, but these are interesting because these tend to be old. The first is, have you heard of the Tuskegee syphilis experiment?
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Of course I have. Of course I have. No, I have never heard of that. So this was in 1932. It's terrible. The U.S. Public Health Service conspired with the Tuskegee Institute to create a phony syphilis treatment program.
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The experiment, which involved lying to almost 400 African-American men who had been diagnosed with syphilis, was only supposed to last six months, but it was 40 years later before anyone became aware of the research. The government was forced to investigate and shut it down.
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For 40 years, 400 men were given dangerous chemicals and painful and necessary medical procedures under the guise of actual treatment. And the fact that penicillin had become a known cure for syphilis was hidden from the patients so they could learn more about the disease.
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Oh, it happens.
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Literally, I mean, this is how we get, right? Honestly, these are the things I think that make us distrust a lot of what the government is. This will always be the knock on, quote, conspiracy theories, right? Is that it is... there's always a counter government. Like a government's always lying. And I don't think always is the key.
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This is where Nate and I always talk about, always talk about, or, or tend to talk about like, You're not lying 100 out of 100 times. This is the reality. People tell the truth, whether it be our government, politicians. At some point, they tell the truth. They lie a lot. Yeah. They don't lie all the time, right?
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That's deception. It always is, right?
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There's enough truth included that it feels palatable, right? Because if you get a full-on deception, most times you're like, I'm out with this. But if there's stuff we've done and go, well, that part of it might be true. That's believable. So that one is... Horrific, right? That's terrible.
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But they narrowed African-American people? They already took care of it, and it was African-American people. So it seems very overtly racist at the same time. It's so gross.
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So we're talking, I mean, 40 plus years of torturing people. I'm so glad the government learned its lesson.
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I know that's soon.
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They're done doing that, right? Josh, you mentioned Operation Paperclip. That falls at number three on this list.
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We'll get there at some point. Hey, hold on. So in 1945, the Joint Intelligence Objectives Agency was given authorization to offer 1,500 German scientists, technicians, and engineers from Nazi Germany and other countries employment in America. President Truman agreed to the program with explicit instructions that it only includes those who are not found to have, quote,
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been a member of the Nazi party, and more than a nominal participant in its activities or an active supporter of Nazi militarism. So very great broad brush there.
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So this meant Werner von Braun, Arthur Rudolph, and Hubertus Strughold.
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Of course. Von Braun architected their entire rocket and missile program, including building jets and everything else they had ready to go. So this is, I mean, it's absurd.
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True. Guilty. So this is what? So Von Braun, Rudolph, and Strughold were listed as a menace to the security of the Allied forces, would not be allowed. However, as we know... They were decided they had more vital importance to the development of the U.S. rocket program. They created false employment and political biographies and destroyed all evidence connecting them to the Nazi war machine.
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to this do we I mean I didn't know you necessarily needed a song we could come up with something is there a guitar do you have a guitar we got one over there there was one in here sorry I hit your microphone there should be an electric guitar in here Mary Poppins please we're ready for it we don't have an axe in here you had a guitar
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That's Operation Paperclip. We know that's real now. At the time, that was a conspiracy theory. These are...
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The fact that Shazam with Sinbad is actually never happened. So this is officially proven. That's a Mandela effect, the fact that that never even happened.
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And that's how we know, and it's not even on this list, of course, but that's how we know most recently of the JFK assassination, the involvement of the CIA. We know there was an inside job. But, I mean, since the beginning, it's always been like one guy from a book depository
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So it's meant to diminish and mock conspiracy.
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And push truth from the narrative. Just throw it out. You mentioned MKUltra. That's actually on this list as well. It's number 10. This is something Nate and I, we are going to cover in the future because we've talked to a few folks. But MKUltra is a pretty well-known CIA project. It's a mind control project. In the 50s, with the Cold War heating up, the U.S.
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hoped to discover what was called the Truth Serum. And what they did is they secretly dosed unwitting U.S. and Canadian citizens with LSD. And they would interrogate and sometimes torture the participants. They paid hospitals, prisons, universities for the participation and their silence. In 1973, CIA Director Richard Helms ordered all documents related to MKUltra be destroyed.
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Eventually, the conspiracy was uncovered. Nobody involved in the project, quote, remembered the details. And there's not a complete timeline as sort of the events remain incomplete. I tend to think that it never stopped. No. It just changes. It just changes. It's always that. It's always that.
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Yeah, a lot of people are saying that. And then we figured out who Andy's dad was.
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I think, too, when we talk about MKUltra, which we were just talking about, the idea of it changing is fascinating. We know for a fact a lot of these folks that are committing these, whether it be a false flag kind of event or these tragedies, end up being...
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At an FBI safe house, CIA, FBI informants, whether it be the people who tried to kidnap Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer, or whether it's the fact that the pilots from 9-11 were staying at an FBI safe house. You can fill in the blank and you go, okay, so they shut down the LSD program.
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There's a lot of like the mass shooters, too, that have. Yeah. I'd say the same thing. Yeah. A lot of things like a lot of the same things. Like you look at just the guy that tried. I mean, crazy stuff. Right. You want to use what you guys cover in the show. The guy that tried to shoot Trump.
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Because that does not make sense. But then I start adding these things up, and this is the thing, right? They always have their guy.
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And so, in the meantime, everybody's ridiculed and In our day, they're deplatformed or they're canceled for suggesting. But the track record kind of speaks for itself. This isn't like we're just having a vacuum.
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It looks, honestly, it looks like... Like Tom Selleck. Tom Selleck, yeah. It looks like the Tom Selleck.
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We're not even there. We're like on number nine. Oh, let's go.
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We're going down. I thought we started at number one. Okay, so this is a quick one, but we all know the weapons of mass destruction for the Gulf War didn't exist. That's a conspiracy theory that came to light. There's a second one. I don't know if you've heard of this. 1990 testimony of Naraya.
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A 15-year-old girl named Naraya offered testimony to Congress stating she had witnessed Iraqi soldiers taking 15 Kuwaiti babies out of incubators and leaving them on the floor to die. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. In response to those findings, Amnesty International accused the Bush administration of opportunistic manipulation of the international human rights movement.
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You got the chest hair, too. It's included. To prove it. You've seen it? Yeah, I've seen it. Your stash is like batteries included, dude. It comes with a beard. Secretly.
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So they faked a moral thing of Iraqi soldiers killing Kuwaiti babies in addition to weapons of mass destruction in order to gain sympathy for a war in Iraq.
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I've never heard about that. Isn't that crazy?
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That's on the list. You're always reading ahead. You're always reading ahead, bro.
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I can't believe I've never heard of this. We talk about this with my buddies. It's like every war is about economics. Every war. Look it up. But what they try to do is there's a justification. They have to make war moral. There has to be virtue within it. We're doing something virtuous. We are liberating people. We are providing democracy. We're nation building, right? They're all about economics.
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They've been doing it.
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Yes, he was. 100% he was.
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World War I. Yeah. 28th President of the United States. Who also at one point became so incapacitated his wife was pulling the strings and finally admitted to it. She was making all the executive decisions.
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This was done again. It was done again in the Gulf.
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I think the good thing from a high up macro standpoint too is that we live in an information age now where it's very, very hard to control all of the avenues of communication. This is something that was very easy to do back in World War I, World War II. I mean, up to the advent of the internet, it was pretty easy to control the outlet.
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So the information people were getting was very much selected and the narrative was procured because you didn't have the access to... And this is also where you swing the pendulum because then you have these... There's crazy things out there where people... Everything is a conspiracy. Demon under every rock, right? So there has to be some sort of balance in this. But I think it's much harder...
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That's 100% why.
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vast amount of information out there yes yeah and they'll put china on that so there's your there's your there's your virtue for that and then china is collecting information this isn't to say that doesn't happen um but i think this is why there's so much vitriol and hate for elon musk with x formerly twitter because he's not bowing to their yeah there's already information about facebook interfering in this selection um
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Well, I'm going to skip around a little bit because we've got... Where are we at? Number eight? Well, we've kind of skipped around because Hooper's been reading ahead. So Operation Mockingbird, which you brought up. We'll go to that. He's going out and cheating.
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1948, Frank Wisner was appointed director of Office of Special Projects and told to create an organization that was capable of producing propaganda and engaging in economic warfare as part of a global war against communism. Here's your virtue piece, right? The CIA took control of the office in the 1950s, maintained a secret campaign to influence media around the world for almost 25 years.
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Weisner owned respected members of the New York Times, Newsweek, CBS, and other media outlets. By the 1950s, there were more than 3,000 CIA employees and dozens of large global media outlets working to maintain a complex propaganda machine. Weisner was always looking for new ways to convince the public of the dangers of communism.
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facility the 19 facilitated the 1954 animated hollywood production of george orwell's animal farm the church committee exposed a conspiracy in 75 and calculated that the misinforming the world cost taxpayers 265 million a year i'm not sure what that's worth today but that's 48 to 75 churchgoers exposed that church committee so the church finds the truth um so communism is good
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No, but it's not that. This is always the twist, right? To me, it's like Homeland, right? It's like where we did this thing to monitor. This is at Snowden. We did this thing, the NSA, to monitor for terrorism after we had 9-11, but they never turned it off. Yeah. And he blew the whistle. Why would you? It was all set up for that purpose. Right.
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But at the same time, it's like, as far as I'm concerned.
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You know, it's like it's a gladiator. I'll have my vengeance in this life or the next. Yes.
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Let's do it right now.
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You're real Americans, like Hulk Hogan said.
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I think Ben Franklin saw this all coming, right? I mean, he has a famous quote, which I love. It says, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
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Yeah, it's interesting. It is a slow boil, right?
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No. Come on. What kind of list is this?
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We've got COINTELPRO, which is the FBI against the 60s activists, where the FBI created a counterintelligence program which was designed to protect national security, prevent violence, and maintain the existing social and political order. But in other words, its purpose was to illegally disrupt society. dissident political organizations with the United States. It was active from 56 to 71.
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And 85% of the program's resources were spent on marginalizing, infiltrating, and disrupting groups such as women's rights, nonviolent civil rights movement, the Congress of Racial Equality, the American Indian Movement, and other civil rights groups.
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J. Edgar Hoover ordered FBI agents to expose, disrupt, misdirect, discredit, and otherwise neutralize the activities of these movements and their leaders. So this has also been proven to be true, even though it was a... And what do you know? I feel like this list is all... It's very curated. Well, it's curated, but it's all government lying to us. And then, oh, they actually did this project.
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Sorry, they were trying to... They want you to have syphilis.
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This is what they give you, right? This is my point from the beginning. We know there's a lot more here. That's what they'll admit to right now. Probably because, number one, there's been enough time where people who would be super angry about this are either old or have passed dead. Like JFK.
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It's like if they let Pete Rose in the Hall of Fame now after he passed away because everyone gambles on baseball now and every other sport. It's a spit in the face. It's like, okay, so that's a whole other thing.
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Okay, so the U.S. government was involved in several crazy conspiracies during the 50s and 60s. Operation Northwoods is probably the craziest of all. In 1962, the CIA planned to stage terrorist attacks on American citizens and military targets in Miami and Washington and blame it on the Cuban government. Convinced the American public to wage war on Cuba.
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The plan involved killing innocent people and soldiers, blowing up U.S. ships and Cuban refugee boats, hijacking airplanes, and planting phony evidence to implicate the Cuban government. Operation Northwest was authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff and presented to the Secretary of Defense, Robert McNamara, before President John F. Kennedy rejected it. So Kennedy rejected this. Remember this?
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Yeah, yeah. Of all gates and rings, JFK is remembered for. We should be thankful he stopped this.
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but i've never heard about this listen this is crazy but we think about the context of being in 2024 how crazy is it to stage terrorist attack stage terrorist attacks we call that a false flag now right yeah american citizens just say it military targets there's two numbers involved yeah just say it six nine It's close. Close. But no cigar. That is a number. Not alone. Yeah. No.
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But if you hadn't heard of this, I mean, again, here is... This is like the most depressing list ever, honestly. You guys talk about funny things that are like... The kids are loving this.
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And we have to stone you. We'll take you out and stone you. Yeah, that's right. That seems like high stakes. Great stakes.
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Right. He's showing his supremacy, his dominion over.
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Well, I think. SEC football. Oh, no. Oh, God.
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There we go. He built gallows in order to hang him.
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It's like that Johnny Depp movie where he lives on in technology.
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I think you make a good point, Hooper, though. It's like, where are we, right? I think almost since Jesus was crucified and raised from the dead, people have thought there in the end times. It's kind of where I always go back to. If you thought of the destruction of the temple in Jerusalem and the raising of Jerusalem and Rome owning the known world, you would think that was near the end.
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If you were... near Krakatoa in 1883. But it cycles. It was. You have a volcano in 1883 that blacks out the sun for 300,000 square miles for weeks. You'd think this is the apocalypse. During World War I, the Great War, where millions upon millions of men died more than ever in recorded history. You think this is the end. World War II, you have an Antichrist figure in Hitler.
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who was trying to take over the normal world, you'd be like, this is Armageddon.
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That's another story. That's interesting. He was just melting Nazis everywhere.
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All to the point though, like a Hooper is saying, I think the end, we're at a point where now we can remove our humanity, which is exactly a Genesis six days of Noah's. I don't think we've ever reached that point where we can like literally alter our genome, um, genetically and technologically to become a, Would you say superhuman, human 2.0, or not human?
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Well, this is the Seed War, Gen 6, right? Is that the removal of it, not that whole point there was to remove a pathway for the Messiah from Genesis 3. But in this point now, it feels a lot more like Revelation where the people will beg for death and it will not come for them.
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What does that mean? There's a whole episode there on that. Your dreams aren't even safe.
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We're pretty practical.
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Rational. Simple down to earth. A couple Florida men down here. Yeah.
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I froze. That's how we avoid some IP violations. Yeah, that's perfect. Well, good thing they messed up. Me too.
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simple kind of man simple maybe not simple simple kind of man yeah yeah yeah leonard skinner you just you knew it dude every time every time we do a podcast with you guys we could we could literally do like a six hour podcast i was thinking nate i was just asking dan if we have he's out of time he's gonna check so it's just sort of this will be cut out but we should roll blurry after dark into 20 minutes with these guys behind the paywall
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And now... This is our plan. We haven't done any of this yet. This is going to be the first. But we have this idea to do kind of like you guys do. Here's the next segment. But our Blurry After Dark is like get to know our guests sort of in a context outside of your expertise. So it would be like maybe we do like how did Ninja start? And what do you guys like to do that isn't recorded to this?
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I know Andrew likes to surf. And kind of like a more personal...
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After show.
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I was going to put that in there because unless Dan tells us we've got time for it, then we can do it.
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Thanks for letting us be a guest. We love you all so much. So good to hang, man. So good to hang. And now we're going to cut to our interview after. Blurry creatures, which we're calling Blurry After Dark, where we're going to get a chance to talk to our guests and learn a little about them more on a personal level, less about their expertise. And your expertises are wide, let's be honest.
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You have experts in many things. So we're going to tread onto some different topics.
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Yeah, we're going to do it with our friends from Butterflies. So this will be available for members. So in order to watch this, you must be a member. So if you are not a member... blurrycreatures.com slash members. Join up and you can watch this blurry after dark episode with our good friends, Ninjas or Butterflies.
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Absolutely. It's too late. We already did it. With your feet. With our feet. A lot of feet tricks and picks. Feet tricks and picks behind the paywall. Can either confirm or deny that.
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That was how it works.
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We apologize. These are our neighbors, the Clintons.
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I don't know if it's their website.
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He's in it? Yeah. It was probably second best work next to Point Break, if we're being honest. They're standing up on a cliffside. It looks like Peru. Does he just teleport there?
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It is funny, though, because all of a sudden it's like, I don't know what Keanu has to do with this, but he's like, you know Graham? He's trying to get us out of the Matrix, guys.
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Or better yet, it's like, and then Graham, he's like, we traded for this. And Graham Hancock's in the next Matrix, whatever. Absolutely.
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Yeah, we were in Peru last year. The Inca stuff. I was on Inca.
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Even the show they talk about it. Yeah, he talks about that. From a whole, what are your thoughts on Graham Hancock? Because I don't have my thoughts. I have my thoughts.
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No one else has your thoughts.
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Hooper, I'm with you, man. What I think is fascinating about Graham is that, like you said, I think he's like 95% there, right? If you're not familiar with Graham Hancock's work, There are now two seasons of what's called Ancient Apocalypse on Netflix. For a lot of people, this is their introduction to Graham and his work. And he's been doing this for decades.
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And his whole thing is he's a journalist, but he's an alternative historian is what he calls himself. And what he believes is that the narrative we've been told about history isn't true. And I think maybe all of us sitting here would say that's a fact. And he gets almost all the way there. What he talks about is an ancient pre-civilization that survives a cataclysm.
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And then his whole way of sussing this out is there are these enlightened travelers that show up and they teach mankind civilization. Graham is not...
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That's exactly what he calls them. He calls them these enlightened travelers. They're from this pre-civilization, and they show the survivors of the cataclysm. They show them how to do civilization. What's interesting is Graham doesn't talk about the Bible. He talks about the sense of the Bible backing up his claims in some of these places, but he doesn't go that direction.
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How are you feeling? Back in our era, a lot of bands started in the basement. That's right.
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For us, I know we ascribe to the biblical narrative, right? So you have Genesis 6, you have Watcher Angels, Book of Enoch really expounds upon that. You have these angels that come down and they teach, even the Bible, they talk about they teach humans civilization, right? Whether it be... How to make weapons, how to animal husbandry.
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It can go a weird way, but that's just essentially how to break and ride horses and have agriculture. How to kind of roots, pharmakia. These are the things that come down as technological trading, right? And so I love about 95% of what he does because he's on it. And what you're talking about is he goes to these megaliths, whether it be Easter Island or Peru and Cusco, Greece, Sardinia.
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You weren't pushing buttons and doing electronic guitar sounds, electronic keyboard.
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You have these places where the construction is what Nate and I talked about when we were in Peru with Tim Alvarino. The construction, the older construction is better. It's very obvious that they've built on top with worse construction.
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Right, we would call it the golden age, right? This idea when the gods walked with man. And you had the Nephilim, you had giants. Graham's not big on giants either. So he has these little holes where it's like, I picture like a jigsaw puzzle where Hancock's put together like 95% of the puzzle, but he's lost some of the pieces.
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And some of these pieces actually show you what the whole picture looks like, as far as I'm concerned.