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Lieutenant Tim Bledsoe

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Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1085.503

The priority was, let's look into this and see where it goes, you know?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1094.815

Initially, everything we learned about the business was through the first two individuals who provided information. And what was on the TSG, Tactical Solutions Group website, I don't remember verbatim, but basically that they fulfilled government contracts and that they were a leading supplier to the Department of Defense for firearms, pharmaceuticals.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1192.869

They were traveling. They were making pretty regular purchases of items that were fairly expensive. They were trying to negotiate some real estate transactions.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1208.815

I know of at least...

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1261.533

Hello, Mrs. Cochran.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1264.676

Hi, this is Lieutenant Bledsoe from the state police.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1400.415

We learned that Michael did not go for autopsy. He had some type of accident or a fall at home, suffered a head injury, and then died shortly thereafter. Hello, Mrs. Cochran. Hi.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1414.974

Hi, this is Lieutenant Bledsoe from the state police and I hate to, you know, bring up a subject about your husband's passing, but he should have went to the medical examiner's office and they're reviewing that and they just ask us to talk to people. Anything you can shed some light on and what led to his illness.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1453.152

Could you give me some detail on Michael's morning background stuff about his overall morning?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1522.146

Yeah. Right. I think you called it enclofamine. Does that sound right?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1540.341

At one point, I said, you know, if there's a substance that's available in this country that could potentially kill other people, that's a public safety issue. And, you know, your husband may have been a victim of that.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1564.752

I did ask, do you think Michael would have wanted to intentionally harm himself? Suicide. Sometimes people, yes, when they get into predicaments that they see no other way out of, you know, they take drastic measures. And her comment was, well, Michael loved himself too much. So, you know... That pretty much eliminated that.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1599.333

It's always a possibility. You don't ever want to rule anything out until you can rule it out.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1683.936

It's the same as pulling on a ball of string. You know, you just keep pulling and it just keeps unraveling.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1717.626

Yes, many of them had quite a bit of documentation. They had obviously kept track of this because we're talking about a substantial amount of money, some of them's life savings.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1730.695

Oh, absolutely, yes.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

1737.157

It's the same as pulling on a ball of string. You just keep pulling and it just keeps unraveling.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2169.243

You don't want to sell the rest of anything else? No.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2232.408

As money comes in, if you're investor A, let's say, and I already have your money, well, when investor B comes in, I give you a little bit back from investor B and then try to build off. And it's just a pyramid, really. But it's not sustainable because eventually you can't keep up.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2285.288

We had several other officers there with us, troopers. Also had a female trooper there to transport Natalie.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2293.374

She did. Said, Natalie, I said, you're under arrest. And I'm going to explain to you exactly why and what the charges are. And she says, it took all of y'all for little old me.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2397.54

I sure did not expect to find that, no.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2469.223

Anytime he would question why they didn't have their money, why the contracts weren't being paid, he got the same exact excuses that the investors were getting.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2502.038

Her actions changed that. The questions she would ask, why are you investigating me?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2523.225

Yes, absolutely.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2528.067

In her mind, she could. That was probably one of the most concerning things that I heard, was how someone whose spouse had only been dead for, at that point, two months, And they're concerned over somebody trying to explain why it happened.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2553.773

You believed it was from Mexico. What makes you think that?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2559.69

We never found any evidence of Mexico. The farthest that we traced it was to an address in Florida. It's just the pieces that just keep adding up that just don't make sense.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2579.1

I learned a long, long time ago that anywhere that you're allowed to look, you better look while you're there.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2593.697

Why is that insulin beneath a pile of chocolate bars?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2663.573

Oh, it's critical. I mean, they have to get medical treatment for that immediately.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2683.068

Yes. Yes, very possible at that point.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2688.373

This could be a quote-unquote smoking gun, so to speak.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2711.198

Michael's remains were pretty advanced in decomposition, so it made it very difficult for the medical examiner.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2735.184

No, I'm not saying that. I know you did. That's what I'm telling you. No, you don't. Yes, I do.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2756.041

The whole reason I got into law enforcement in the first place was to help people, especially people who could not help themselves. So we were there to speak for Michael.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2788.799

We've been conducting an investigation into Michael's death for some time now.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2795.796

You brought up the clomiphene was possibly some way related to Michael's death. Okay, we now know that that's not true. So we need to clear that up.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2820.166

What you're saying is it was nothing at your hand.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2824.471

And that's what I'm saying is not true. And that not only did you then allow him to lay there all day without medical treatment.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2838.384

You called an alibi is what you did.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2841.485

Yeah. You made sure that you had somebody else to blame.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2850.89

No, I'm not saying that. I know you did. That's what I'm telling you. No, you don't. Yes, I do.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

2872.056

When you put all those circumstances together, not just the insulin, it paints a very clear picture.

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

35.1

We found a bottle of insulin in the refrigerator. He's not a diabetic. Why is it beneath a pile of chocolate bars?

Dateline NBC

The Devil's in the Details

830.981

Let's look into this and see where it goes.