Lady Gaga
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah, I mean, that's the lore, right? And some of it's truth, right? People say artists make their best work when we're tortured, but I would really like to do away with that, actually. I think it's super unhealthy for the world. And I think I've made some of my best work and I'm happy and healthy because I have all my faculties as a musician, right?
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I also think that romanticizing sick artists, it perpetuates this thing that's super negative, and especially for women. I want women to feel like they can be healthy and be happy, that we will celebrate them in their health. But you're right. That is definitely a thing. I feel really grateful that I'm still here.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I definitely think that my life could have been very different maybe over five years ago. I think I was in a really dark place. And I wouldn't say I made my best music during that time. At all. So for what it's worth, coming from me, I'm not the only artist that ever lived. But from my experience, the hardest times in my life were not the best music I ever made.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yes, it's nice to meet you too. I'm very happy to be doing this. I'm just making sure all my devices are off. Okay, everything's off.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I don't know. Yeah, sometimes. Maybe like a song here or there. Maybe I was feeling deeply insecure. Or, you know, I think Chromatica was really hard for me. That was a very authentic dance record that I'm very proud of. And I loved working on that. But it was just a hard time in my life. I think it's hard to feel deeply authentic when you don't feel well.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
because like you can't like feel the wind at your back and I just wasn't feeling well so it was authentic to the time for sure I wrote all those songs sang all those songs but I think that in terms of like being connected to my pure artistic source I think that there were times when I was feeling healthier that I would probably say those felt more authentic to me
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I think I definitely was fascinated with artifice when I first started my musical career. And I thought the use of artifice can be incredibly authentic. It's just the way that you do it. I think my understanding of authenticity is that what's changed for me is it has to be on my own terms.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It has to be something that I decide because I think for myself over the years, especially because I started out a career in commenting on artifice. And then I sort of traveled into what's, you know, what some of my fans would even call like norm core with, uh, Joanne and, uh, A Star is Born, I think there were some people that thought that that wasn't authentic.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
So I think what I realized is I have to understand. For me, I have to know my authenticity for myself. And yeah, authenticity to me is a committee of one.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I mean, I think Tony Bennett forged the trail that means the most to me. Yeah. Tony always used to tell me, he used to say, just stick with quality, kid. And that made me feel so happy and safe that if I leaned into my artistry, I didn't have to be afraid anymore.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
and um so that's like i mean that's a lot of what this album is for me is i just leaned into my musicianship hard like really hard and i told myself you know whatever happens over the next 20 years 30 years of your career you're always going to be a musician and you're always going to be an artist and you can always work at it you can always do more of it um
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But I think I've definitely arrived at a place where achieving world domination into my 90s is not exactly what makes me tick. And this idea of winning is, I don't know if that's synonymous necessarily always with great music.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I lived in New York and grew up here my whole life. And I made my artistic way living on the Lower East Side, starting around 17 years old, and really kind of worked the New York music scene as much as I could. Ultimately, that landed me into making The Fame, which was my first studio album. And that music came out of... the culture of people that I was sort of living with.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Maybe, yeah. I mean, I ask myself that question pretty often, actually. Like, how would I look at this differently? You know, am I thinking about this the right way? And, you know, there's just noise sometimes and pressure. But the person that puts the most pressure on me is me. Sometimes I have to warn myself to do something at 70%. Like, don't go 100%, because 100% is going to bang you up.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Like I'm getting ready for Coachella and I'm so, so excited, but I've definitely lost sleep like a whole bunch of nights. And it's just because I want to do a great job and I'm really hard on myself and, you know, but it's, I love making people smile. Like if there's a time and a date where I've been slotted, like you could make the public smile from, you know, 11 p.m. until one in the morning.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I really want to make it happen.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
You know, I think that people that are different are part of what reminds us all how to love and how to be strong and It makes me really sad that we live in this world where it's acceptable to hurt other people, to be powerful. But I think during times like these, we have to get louder. And what I wish for...
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
people to know is that like we can work together to be loud and we can work together to love each other. And that like, just because dark people are winning, it doesn't mean that we are invisible or that we are unimportant.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I think there's just always been a political aspect to being in the public eye for me. Like, I'm not interested in being famous to stand for nothing at all. It's a privilege to stand with people that are so amazing. I'm in awe of the trans community and I'm in awe of the LGBTQ plus community. And I have been since I was really young.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And if you win an award, like you have 45 seconds to speak while the world is listening. I just wanted to say something that matters to me. people that I care about. I'm not a trans person, but I try to imagine what it would feel like to wake up living in America and living in the world right now. And I just think being supportive, being kind, and we can't just whisper about these things.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
We have to say them out loud, I think.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Look, I'm like not an authority on kindness, but my thoughts are, it's not just about what you put on your Instagram. It's about how you live your life. It's about like how you have conversations with people, who you make an effort to be friends with, to understand the stories of others. It's about in your business, whatever your business is,
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
How do you make sure that all these systems that are around you are operating in kind ways and inclusive ways, ways that celebrate people? To me, that's where kindness has to live. It can't just be something that's like when people are watching, I'll be kind. You got to be kind all the time.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
At the time, downtown, I was surrounded by musicians, photographers, artists, club promoters, people that lived and breathed art for a living. It was a community of support. And I think one of the reasons I was afraid is I was so far away now from that community and not having my community was, you know, was difficult. And I also think
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It's just like, I don't know, like when it sounds right. I know that's like maybe not a great answer, but when it sounds right, I really do see music. in my head when I'm working. It looks like a wall of colors. And so sometimes when I hear the right take of something, it just feels like the wall's complete. And I'm like, that's the one.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Sometimes it's visually like a dream, but mostly in the studio, it's a wall. It's a wall of color.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
When I listen to, I think I do. I think it's much stronger when I'm making my own. But yeah, when I listen to other people's music, yeah, I do see colors. Yeah, I do. Like that made me instantly think of Beck. I'm like a huge Beck fan. I try to think of all the colors I've seen listening to Beck. One of the greatest records ever made was, I think was Morning Phase.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It was like really a special piece of music. It was like, that album to me was like medicine, like audio medicine.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I think just the way that he used those sounds. I was going through a lot with my fibromyalgia and pain. And I will listen to that album every day to like kind of soothe myself. And I turned it on every single morning. And I remember Rick Rubin was the first person that ever played it for me. He played it for me before it came out.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And it was so interesting because I had made Art Pop and Art Pop was so noisy. Rick was like, he loved Art Pop and he was like, he was like, let's listen to this Bach record. I want you to hear this. And he played it for me and it was so like easy to listen to. And it was so beautiful. And just like the guitar sounded like bells and the strings, like it's just beautiful.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It's just a very beautiful piece of music. I like beautiful music. It's funny. I don't know that I always make like very easy listening music, but I like to listen to it.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I like Julian Lodge. Oh, the guitar player?
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah. And I loved Billie Eilish's album this year. I thought Hit Me Hard and Soft was like a beautiful piece of music.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah, I mean, I would say that for the most part, I'm a lot better, but... I still have pain flares. I have one today.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It's okay. You know, I'm like fine. I just, you know, it just still happens once in a while. And it's like, I'm really grateful that it's not all the time. So, yeah, I'm okay.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Well, that was a very physically challenging video to do. I loved every moment of learning the choreography. Paris Coble's an amazing choreographer. I'm definitely in a place where like, I'm in the place where like, even today, if I went to the dance studio, I'd be fine. But yeah, there were years ago where that would have been really, really hard.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
So yeah, I've just, I've just gotten a lot healthier. And but I mean, so I mean, not to be like too graphic, but like years ago I used to get a lot more like pinched nerves all over my body. So it would have been a lot harder to do a video like that. I stopped dancing a lot for a while, I think, to make things more manageable for myself.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I was afraid to return to something that my fans fell in love with early because it felt very far away and because it also felt like maybe I would be just like recycling something that I'd done before. But ultimately, I decided I really wanted to do it and that this sonic style and sonic aesthetic really did belong to me and it was something that I created.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But I'm, you know, kind of back, feeling good, feeling good now.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah, I mean, I was like definitely somewhat of an exhibitionist as a young artist and I like loved it so much. And I was also a big fan of shock art and studied it a lot when I was younger. Like I thought Spencer Tunick's art was really interesting. I thought Sandy Scoglin's art was really interesting. Marina Abramovich's art, yeah.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But I think where I've arrived now in my career is I feel a lot more comfortable and at ease with my artistry. And also I feel comfortable creating some boundaries around how to prioritize things. I would definitely say for a while in my career, prioritizing... you know, fashion and red carpets, like it feels like it's like a part of, it's a part of your art, but it's also a part of the job.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
That's usually a part of the job that a lot of the people around you really like. And I would say now I've prioritized that less and that I'll spend much more of my day playing piano and singing, writing songs, producing, And I don't mean that in disrespect to like the art of glam, because like, I know that my fans know this, that red carpets for me were a place to be artistic during my career.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
They really were a canvas. And even though I sometimes like sort of resented the beauty pageantry of it all, because that's not really my thing, the competition of it, I think it's not really my thing, but there is some freedom in going like,
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
okay, I have a red carpet later, but instead of spending my entire day planning for this or weeks planning for this, I'm going to, you know, like make another album or I'm going to, work on a new project. Because the reason I'm bringing this up is because I think I felt pulled in so many different directions over the last 20 years.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But the place that I feel where I feel the most happy is working on my own art. And I think the image piece of it I prefer that a lot more when it's about artistry and it's not about like, just about beauty. There's like lots of corsets and dieting and makeup and pressure. And it's like this, you know, and then there's, you know, there's best dress lists and, you
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
You know, it's like, it's its own thing. And I don't mean that to be like disrespectful of it. Like I partake in it. But that definitely is more challenging. That's like more challenging for me than making like my record. It just feels a little bit further away from like who I am. I guess what I'm saying is these races that women are a part of, it's like, that's not really for me.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And that was part of the joy of making the album.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I think the thing that's the most important to me is to not force my children to live a life that they are not choosing. Because when they're kids, you know, there's no way for them to understand what fame is and how it will change their lives.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
No, actually. This is new for me.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I think that my sound is like an amalgamation of all the music that helped me fall in love with music. It's got classic rock in it. It has disco in it. It has electronic music in it, 80s synth. It's sort of like all of these memories of music.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It's so fun. Absolutely, of course.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Sorry, I don't mean to laugh, but absolutely. At a certain point, I just completely lost touch with reality. I mean, I was falling so deeply into the fantasy of my artwork and my stage persona that I lost... Yeah, I lost touch. I wouldn't say that falling deeper into a life of being a tortured character actually was good for anything.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
You know, I suppose in a way. I suppose in a way. But I do think there's some people that really liked that side of me. But I didn't like that side of me. And I was really unhappy. And I do feel like I have... myself in order now. I went back downtown to a bar that I used to go to all the time last week. I'd go in the middle of the day and I would order a whiskey and a beer.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
That's where my friends were. That's where my artist community was. But I used to visit and... feel really sad. Like I was really far away from the person that I was when I was living down there. But this last time that I went, it was... I don't know how to explain it any other way than I just felt like the old me.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And losing yourself... in your art is I think something that's romanticized for sure, but I don't know that it was actually good.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Not anymore. No. But I know, I know, I know why you're asking me that.
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I'm sure that that does happen. I think it has less to do... Well, okay, let's put it this way. I was authentic before. That was authentically me. I just was authentically splitting off into different personalities all the time. I would say that now...
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
like who I would be at dinner with you is who I would be in this interview so I guess authenticity is subjective like to say that performance isn't authentic is not really true I just feel like I'm more easily can hold it all and feel
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I feel confident in the idea that my artistry as a musician is like the most valuable thing about me after, of course, what I have to offer my family and my loved ones. Meaning I would not put artifice and fame as high on the list to go back to your question.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Something that we did on the album is like we would take the bass, play it live, and then we would actually run it through the analog synths to see how it would sound after guitar parts that would be like indicative of the way Prince would play it or the way David Bowie would play it.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah, I mean, well, I had psychosis. So I was not deeply in touch with reality for a while. And it like took me out of life in a big way. And after like a lot of years of hard work, I like got myself back. And... It was a really hard time. And it was actually really, really special when I met my partner because when I met Michael, I was like in a much better place when I met him.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But I remember him saying to me like pretty early on, you know, I know you could be a lot happier than you are. And I just, it was really hard for me to hear him say that because I didn't want him to think that of me. You know, I wanted him to think I was like this happy, just totally together person and I wasn't really yet. So I guess...
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I mean to share that as a way of saying that I do think it can get better if you are going through a hard mental health time. But it's also something that I have found increasingly harder to talk about. I think I hate feeling defined by it. it's like a ghost of yourself. That's what, that's what it felt like to me. Like, like something I felt ashamed of.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But I don't think that we should feel ashamed if we go through times like that. And I mostly just wish to say like, if you have been through something like that or you are, it like, it can get better. And it, and it did for me. And I'm, I'm really grateful for that.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I mean, it, it sort of goes back to what you were saying about like playing characters earlier in my career. I had to figure out a way to integrate myself fully with my stage persona and like, kind of like inhabit Lady Gaga's boss energy in my everyday life. But, you know, in an empowered way, um, and make sense of like maybe two things that don't make a ton of sense.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
You know, I'd like to think that I'm a kind person, but there's like a ferociousness and a hardness and an intensity that I have on stage as a performer. So I think I had to learn how to hold those two things and have them not be at war with each other. And that's actually one of the reasons I named my album Mayhem because to me that tension is chaotic.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I would say it's sort of like picking and choosing my favorite fragments of songs that I love throughout my childhood and so many different kinds of artists with so many different genres. And to me, that is my music. It's everything I love about music, but it's all in one place. And I didn't always do that. I sometimes in my records decided, okay, I'm going to make my version of a country record.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
feeling to visit but not one you want to live in 100 that's it that is a great way of saying it and and yet i live in it so i mean that's still well it's part of my truth yeah it is like always a part of me it's just i've learned to hold it and um not like pour gasoline on it you know I used to like just like the more chaos, the better all the time, just living life on the edge constantly.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And I'm now proud to be like much more boring.
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No, I don't. I'm really excited to be a mom. I used to have a lot of apprehension about it. I mean, I think the thing that's the most important to me is to not force my children to live a life that they are not choosing. Because when they're kids, you know, there's no way for me, there's no way for them to understand what fame is and how it will change their lives.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
So I think the more that we can kind of give them space to discover who they are on their own, I think that's the thing that I believe in the most. I sort of feel as though if our children only understand mommy's job, that's like a very narrow view of life. But then, you know, I also kind of am at war with myself sometimes as I get ready to hopefully become a mom soon. That like...
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
you know, today's wonderful, but like the whole day has revolved around me. You know, like I've been in interviews, like talking about myself all day and like, there's an incredible amount of narcissism in this. And I think as I grow up, I'm kind of like more and more self-aware of that and figuring out how to, like, how do you
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
How do I live a life where I'm passionate about my art while also removing that from the center of gravity at all times and making more space for other things? That's something that's on my mind a lot about my place in the world.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah, through living it and I think also like allowing there to be, you know, holidays, like mayhem coming out. It's kind of like my birthday. It's like a special day, you know, because I get to deliver all the music. But then maybe there's a time for it to be someone else's holiday. Okay.
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Like Joanne, right? And Neil Young was making a record right across the way from me in the same studio. And then I would listen to Harvest Moon and Daydream. And then I would write a song like Joanne.
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Hear my sinner's prayer. I am what I am. And I don't want to break the heart of any other man but you, but you.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But those records, I think the way that I was sort of like bridled to think about women in music, you know, they talk to you a lot about like your look and what the aesthetic is for the album and like the brand of the music. And that at some point started to affect the way I made music. And I didn't do that.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Well, you know, like with Joanne, I was like, okay, well, since I'm going to do this like country folk thing, now I'm going to make sure that each song fits into that theme. Whereas with Mayhem, I didn't do that. With Mayhem, I let each song speak its own language. And that like chaos that I have maybe always felt criticized for, I celebrated instead.
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It's just the way they talk to you about, you know, who you are. You know, I had my own kind of image when I moved to Hollywood and was playing my music for Interscope for the first time. And, you know, they have conversations with you about like, what's your look going to be? And, you know, you're sort of thinking like, it's going to be... Me, you know? Well, how are you going to dress?
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Well, I'm going to wear what I usually wear when I'm on stage performing. And it's just the way they sort of introduce you to start thinking about it as a business as opposed to a performance. So I think a lot of my career in a way was like a retaliation against that. I mean, it's no secret that I loved to make waves with my stage performances and my fashion.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
But yeah, I think what I was trying to say was that like that way of thinking kind of made its way at some point into the way I approached music and I had to kind of fight it.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
You know, were there ever times that I felt like I was being exploited?
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Who's prepared to pay the price for a trip to paradise? Love for sale.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I mean... I think the, what's interesting is I always feel nervous to talk about this because I'm like, I always feel like I want to say that I'm extremely grateful for the career that I've had and all the blessings that have come into my life. And I also can say with a lot of honesty and truth that
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Being in the music industry since I was a teenager, like some of it is what you can, like how much you can stand. It's like how much you are willing to give away of yourself. You know, there were like years and years at a time when... the normal routine of daily life just goes away. Things like eating at the dinner table with your family just never happens anymore.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And being in a room by yourself never happens anymore. Being sort of carted around, told where to go. I'm sure that must sound like peculiar to people because they see you on top of the world and they think you're the boss. But as a woman in music, I would say it took me 20 years to become the boss. And I am now.
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And that's thanks to having wonderful people around me and including my partner, Michael. He really helped me become the boss. But no, I was not always the boss, but I was the boss of my music. I was the boss of my art. And that was kind of the only thing, you know, because if you strike at the art, then no one gets what they want from you. But yeah, it's interesting.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I like wrestle with this, how to talk about it, because yeah, I just... I want to acknowledge all the blessings in my life while also, you know, speaking up for women in this industry that, you know, women when we're working in the music business when we're young, you know that there's like no laws around like who can be a producer and like, Like they're not vetted by anyone.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
So like when you're 17 years old and you are invited into a studio, like you have like no protection at all. Like you don't know where you're going. You may not even have an adult in the room with you other than the person that you're working with. It's just, it's not the safest industry anymore.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I think she's a wonderful artist. I think Chapel Roan is like speaking the truth and she is courageous to do so. And I think we should... For me, I just want to be supportive of her and...
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I look at what she's been doing and saying and think like, man, I should have stood up for myself more when I was younger because I hope that will bring more space for her and more boundaries for her in her career to have the career that she wants. I think a woman speaking their mind is a powerful thing and I was really happy that she did that.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I mean, Michael was in the studio like every single day with me while I was working. He oversaw the whole process of making the record, completing it. You know, helping me to shape the sound of the record creatively to trust myself. It was incredibly like kind and beautiful.
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It's like an amazing thing to do with your partner, you know, because when I start to doubt myself, like there is nobody that's going to call me on it better than he is.
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Yeah, actually, there was like one point where I almost turned the whole album into like a grunge record.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I would have listened to that album. Okay, well, there's enough. There's like plenty of grunge on the album. But it was right after I did Perfect Celebrity, that song. And I was like, oh, like... Now everything should be this. And he was like, he said, but there's so much other amazing music that you've made and it's all you. Like you don't have to try to be something.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
I thought that was really astute. And I was happy it happened because very often I will like run with my crazy idea and then look back on it and sometimes regret that change. So yeah, it was really cool.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
How did I know Michael was genuine? I mean, from the moment that I met Michael, he had the most warm and kind disposition of like mostly anyone that I had maybe met in my whole life. And yes, he was impressive. He had like all these businesses that he was running. But the thing I cared about the most was like he wanted to know about my family.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
No, it's okay. I'm sorry to— It's okay to cry on a podcast because no one can see you.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
He was—he just—he wanted to be my friend. He wanted to be my friend.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
And it was just— It was really special. I mean, I guess what I'm trying to say is I knew Michael was genuine because he wanted to be my friend. He wasn't asking to go to things with me or like... I don't know how to explain it. How do you explain the thing that people do that's hard? He didn't want to do any of the things that the other people wanted to do. He wanted to take walks with me.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
He took me rock climbing. Well, because I also had like a... a pain condition that I still have. But, you know, he had this belief that I could get better and he really inspired me to have more hope about it. So, and you know, the truth is Michael really is like not a fan of the spotlight.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
He had a really hard time with the cameras when we first started dating and he kind of got comfortable with it for me so that we could do it together. So, Yeah, I guess I know Michael's genuine because he's my friend.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
Yeah, thank you. I'm glad I found it too. It was really hard not having it. It's like not a good feeling to have so much trouble making friends. That was really hard for me over the course of my career. Being actually friends with somebody, it's like a very specific thing, right?
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
It's like when you can sit in a room together and not talk and read and you can take long walks and talk about your family. You can obsess over a new recipe and go to the grocery store and go make it. Friendship is not about like... And I don't think it should be transactional, but I think I just was around a lot of that all the time. I was kind of like starved for it.
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"The Interview': Lady Gaga's Latest Experiment? Happiness.
So it's a big blessing that I met someone that was not like that. And it's good for the music too, you know?
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Some of it is what you can, like how much you can stand. It's like how much you are willing to give away of yourself.