Kyle Forgeard

So I want to hear about yesterday and the speech with Trump and stuff like that. So tell us about that, too.

But how do we, how do you, so how are you guys planning to change that? And what's your role specifically?

But then I decided to make my transformation when I met my coach, Todd Norman. This guy is the GOAT. He's one of the most experienced trainers. He's been in the industry for 20 years. He got me on a program and that completely changed my life. So you guys have been asking me for the last year, Kyle, what was your diet like? What was your workout program like? And we're starting TNM Lifestyle.

Reese's Puffs. Back in the day, though, when you didn't know cereal was unhealthy, what was your favorite? Lucky Charms. Before I would go to the bus stop.

How about Honey Nut Cheerios? Honey Nut Cheerios are overrated.

And we want to show you guys that you can have a good time. You can still go out and you can drink and you can party. and you can still get in shape. He's going to design a completely custom workout program for you and a custom diet plan. So obviously, guys, we can't do this for everyone. So we're taking on a very, very limited amount of clients. Boys, the new year's coming up.

I'm not innocent. No, we had a night last night.

No.

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I don't know what else to say. You can have a good time. Kid Leroy was there last night. Go see an entertainer. Stay by Kid Leroy last night was fire live. Yeah, you refused to leave before he came on.

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All right, boys, we're back with another Full Send podcast. We are going to have the man Gary Breck on. I thought it's perfect for New Year's. You know, we're trying to start off the year trying to be a little more healthy, get some personal goals going. So Bob and Stiney are just... They've just been completely wild recently.

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And how often are you supposed to do a hydrogen bath?

Every night.

Can you splash me a little more water here, Gary?

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Or like the quality of it. It's like a Professor Smith potion.

See that? What is this measuring exactly?

Let's pound them.

Download the PrizePix app. We are firing 2025, baby. PrizePix all year long. Let's get into the fun. So yeah, Gary, I pretty much told you, we just want to, I feel like this is kind of like a group therapy session. I don't want to use the word intervention, but you know, Gary's helped me a lot. You know, I did a transformation last year.

Yeah.

I kind of, I'm still partying and stuff, but I'm trying to balance it. So I feel like this is the perfect time. It's the new year.

Yeah.

Yeah.

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And you had a massive day yesterday. Yeah.

I'm feeling good after the hydrogen too. Me too, dude. I swear to God. I feel like a new man. My stomach's settled that fast.

Tell us about that.

I don't know if you can talk about it too, but I know there's a lot of rich people in the world that are becoming obsessed with living – Yeah.

Dude, I'd love to go chase the tornadoes. I feel like we're fucking with the weather and it's... We did that recently. Did you really? We did it last year. We went with the storm chaser. I made a call. And we went into the middle of... And it was... He's been doing it for 30 years and he said it was the craziest tornado he's ever seen. Gary, there's tornadoes popping up everywhere.

I'm partying once in a while too, but the way these guys are partying is just a little out of control. So I wanted to bring you guys here to Gary today. And this is kind of like we're going to catch up with Gary. He's got a lot of new cool shit going on. He's working with the Maha movement. A lot of cool stuff. We'll talk about that.

The one that you were on? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, what do you do? Do you drive... You go inside of it. So they have a machine. Gary, Gary, Gary. It's called the Dominator. And it's like this tank-looking thing. And it like...

What's next for the ultimate human business-wise and just where do you want to take it?

Those clinics, are they going to be ultimate human clinics?

That Cole finished that dude. I've, I just don't, I don't physically.

One of the first people to just jump into it. He's never even ran a marathon before.

Seven and seven different continents in seven days.

Yeah, they just put you on a simmer there for about nine centuries. They're going to be evaluating you at the gates.

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Also, the tablets. I'm going to be crushing those.

Fall hangover back to life.

I've done this before at Harry's.

No, that's not true. Hydrogen bath. See if this cures the fucking hangover, boys. That's a fucking tough one, too.

Wow.

The NIH. The National Institute of Health.

Funded by private companies. Yes.

But this is also just kind of like a group therapy slash intervention.

Last night we all had a night. We're all hung as shit right now, to be honest. I'm hung, Chad. Not often do people get thrown out of a Boca Raton hotel.

120?

How much do you think people are going to start living till? Because I know we're so advanced right now, but this shit's only the beginning too, right?

What happened to you guys?

Are people going to start living to close to 200? Yeah, 160, 180 for sure. What? Dude, if you're alive in five years...

No, I'm hung.

Other countries you travel to, it's like kind of hard to eat bad. We just went to this island.

Yeah, so we went to an uncontacted tribe. It was in the middle of the Pacific, about a two-hour boat ride from Fiji. And these guys are a completely remote tribe. And then we went to another island, and it's just... Yeah, like there's no fast food. There's no seed oils. You're eating from monkeys.

So we get to the island and the tribe made us go into the forest. And what they do is they hunt bats with sticks.

So they take sticks and they look for the bats in the trees and they whip the sticks and hit the bats. They throw a stick at a bat?

And kill it.

It's crazy. Really? That's like boomerang stuff.

We did it. We had to do it, yeah.

Oh.

We tried the kava. They made kava. Have you ever heard of that? Yeah. I've heard of kava. Like the root with the, and then they mix it up and it's like a mud and then it's a paste. It makes you, it makes your like mouth numb. It's kind of like, it feels like 70% alcohol, 30% like weed. It gives you like a bit of a, like, I don't know. Yeah.

And it lasts like 20 minutes.

So we drank that.

It was, it was a crazy experience.

like no this is oh you should have taken they don't we're trying to bring them to disney world yeah can you imagine yeah that's probably god yeah so how long were you guys there we spent one night on the uncontacted tribe island and then we stayed on the island that has is more like there's a whole setup with like huts and like food and

All right, guys, so I have been getting this question for the last year since I did my transformation. I know a lot of you guys saw it. I was an absolute milk bag. You guys are always roasting me, calling me pregnant and comments. But at the end of the day, you know, with our lifestyle, we travel a lot. So it's hard to stay in shape. We're always drinking.

They caught it. And then what? They grabbed it by the legs and just pulled it down and pulled the legs and then tie up the legs. And then kill it. And then they, yeah, you club it in the head. They made Gambles do it. They made him do it, yeah. But that's how they survive, right? So he takes a big stick and literally beat this thing.

What's good how wait so who won the match I just fucking cuz tempers are flying right now I just cooked Bob's ass on the course for how much 10k and how did you guys play? At first, it was me and Menry, which we never teamed together. Let me just say this. Let him tell what happened. Then we switched teams. I was carrying Bob the whole way, too.

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What is the longest time you've been on a slot machine?

That's the thing. The way Steve and, like, even Dana play... Yeah, it's too much. I like gambling, too. I just can't play the stakes that they play. Well, no, that's what I'm saying. Like, if I lost a million dollars, like, I think I would... I don't know what I would do, bro. I would fuck... I would kill myself. I'm gonna be honest. Like, for me... Like, I would. Like...

I don't know how they stomach that. That's what I'm saying.

I admire it. They don't give up is what they don't do.

I didn't take anything off your deal.

Might be back by tonight.

Wait, that's also crazy you agreed to those terms. No, that's how you get your foot in the door. Time out.

So anyway, Brett, along the way. See, when I do that to Gabe, I get called an asshole. This is how good of a guy I am, right? Everyone sees Gabe, and Gabe's amazing. He's the best.

Golf bets he's up because you never pay when you lose. No, I'll tell you what. Besides me.

You fucking party like a fucking gorilla.

I told you the text I got two nights ago. I wasn't before at all. I actually had a business call with my business manager, I think like three days ago. He actually complimented me on my gambling. Really? Well, what's your, what was your winnings this year? I don't know what my winnings were. I think, I think I might be positive like 300K. I had to see this. I had to see this.

You're killing bottles every night. Yeah, of course I am. I'm starting off the year with a cleanse. Yeah, we're doing a marathon March 9th. Or sorry, February 9th. So I'm going... Dry January? I'll do that. I'm going dry till February 9th. I'm going to try dry January. But we have UFC LA, Stiney. Yeah. I'm going to do dry till February 9th, till my marathon.

That was hilarious contrast.

Oh, I thought you meant dying. Bob, you're a full-blown alcoholic.

Bro, everything's just about balance, bro. Anyone that says going out, dude, going out still once in a while is a fucking great time.

I like going out when there's, like, a dope occasion.

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But he actually did, like he said it himself. Like I was worried he was going to be like, yo, you got to like chill. But he was like,

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I played lights. No, Kyle was dumb. I felt so bad, Kyle. I think I made like seven putts today.

you're up that's fucking sick i was like we need to find some more losses because there's too many winnings yeah is there any more losses that we don't have i'm like no i left all right boys welcome to the pod we got a boys only episode today before we get into it if you guys have not tried the prize picks app you guys gotta try it i have tried every single app when it comes to firing on sports and prize picks is by far the best

Then we switched teams, and then it was me and Freezer. Freezer, we were going to let him sit in on this pod, but he was absolutely nuked, which is a whole other topic.

You guys ready to pop out tonight? Who's popping out?

I'm going to stay back. Yo, wait.

I'll tell, I'll tell what I, he's like, how's upper deck.

Suga's not the best witness, too, when he's hammered, though.

Honestly, Freezer was probably a bit hammered and it was probably a misunderstanding. You guys should patch it up. I'll be honest, Mike. I love you both.

preview bro no but like you don't even know her like that like you were acting like you knew her like that and you're just like i know her like you'd like go put her arm around her and she'd be like oh mike's girl like stein like stein he was trying to like the vibe she was feeling me and i was like she was absolutely not like i know what you're saying now because i mean stein is good at like you know what stein what was i doing at the prize picks event i was pitching this guy my fucking discord yeah and it was great i was like yeah dude we run poker events we're doing uh six figures a month like let's get stein involved

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Oh, by the way, I don't believe he said that.

But Mike's a good guy. He probably just said that.

Wait, no. I don't know if you want to go. I'd like to be in the front row.

Bob, save me a seat in the front row, please.

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Let's make this bigger than fucking... No, no, no.

That was one of the weirdest calls I've ever got from Stiney. I mean, me and Stiney now, we're fucking boys. So we're always there for each other. Stiney's always there for me too. I'm always there for Stiney. So one day I get a call from him and he FaceTimes me and he's pretty much just having a meltdown. freaking out, almost crying pretty much. I swear to God, almost crying.

I'm like, dude, what's wrong? He's like, dude, I have dicks in my teeth. He's like, I got two jewel dicks in my teeth. I swear I was hungover or something too. I was just really tired and I was like,

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You are using our name for some negotiations.

You fuck with Potter? Another one.

Oh, yeah.

Crazy thing just happened in Florida. Pornhub no longer available. I'm going to test that right now because I don't buy that. I'll try it right now. I think it's 2025 going into effect. Pornhub is no longer. Right now. Pornhub is gone?

No, I threw a 30K bet.

On what, Polymarket?

Damn, Bonnie Blue, first thing that pulls up. What's your opinion on the Pornhub thing? I'll be honest. I mean, there's a lot of other sites out there. Are you a big P-Hub guy? I like the format. I like the layout. I like the colors.

No, I love everything about Pornhub. I like the logo. I like, I'm just used to it.

Yeah, I don't want to know what your search is. I'm not going to lie. I know that's a little derogatory, but what is your search? I like that secretary shit. You know when you gotta go to a new gym, though?

And what do you look for? Are you just a 4U page guy, or do you search certain... Oh, no, MILF. I haven't jerked off in a year. I like porn stars.

You're a possum maniac, bro.

Do you guys see the Logan Paul, Conor McGregor shit?

I think it could happen. I don't see it happening. I wonder what changed to why Conor can... Do that without the UFC now. But that Anabi family is behind it.

That's like the family that got Bieber to perform at their wedding and shit.

I think Logan Paul.

I feel like Logan Paul, at his size, when he flopped Floyd, too, that was years ago. Well, that's a great matchup. He's been training. He's in fucking insane shape.

That bang is probably insane. With that family involved, bro, that's like next level money.

Can't hate on it business-wise, but— You can't hate on it, but— I mean, I would be fired up for Logan Paul, Conor McGregor.

No, fuck that. I got too much respect for that shit that if I did it, I would want to do it properly.

Logan Paul, Conor McGregor would be like... That's like at least more interesting because of Connor's skill and his experience. But Logan has a huge size advantage.

It was. I'm pretty sure that was pretty big. This is closer than Logan Paul Floyd. This is closer.

That motherfucker went in there, bro. I respect Bryce. Isn't he fighting?

Then I won 5K off Bob, and then at the end, he tried to big dick me. He's like, 1v1 me, double or nothing. Of course. Instantly, I said, yes. I said, yes, right away. Let's go back to the tee box. We went back to the tee box. He hit it in the fucking woods.

In which way, though? Because Jake's made a lot of money.

You're an OG Jake hater, though. Yeah, you are. It's good. It's jokes.

Dude, any boxer, too.

I think his career has just gone like this so fast that if you compare that. He's been boxing for four years. Yeah, that's true. So for a real boxer that's boxing for four years, I think he's taking a lot more risk than the average boxer that's been boxing for four years. But we're judging him on a superstardom level, which is not really fair.

I saw Garcia two nights ago. Garcia's last win. P.D. 's are not. And I can confirm. Garcia was fucking sending all the way up until that Devin Haney fight. I saw it with my own eyes. He walked into the room and fucking pounded a big fucking papa. Garcia, go, baby. Happy that hard T. I'm a fan of Garcia for life. He knocked Haney down three times, didn't he?

I don't want to see that one ever.

Logan and Jake should not do that because then they'll try to do some fake beef thing or something.

I have no idea.

Yeah, if we're talking about fighting, I just... UFC is just on another fucking level in terms of branding, fucking build-up, production, characters, like, just everything. I fucking love the UFC so much. Are you guys excited? January 18th, I'm so pumped for this card. You got Islam.

Khabib's coaching three different fighters in one night.

And this is going to be nuts. Big Hasbulla's coming back to town.

And hey, I gave it to you too. I know, and I hit it.

Crazy.

I just love the Dagestanis. I love those guys.

Now, Umar Nurmagomedov is fighting Murab.

Sugar's going to probably, hopefully, fight the winner of that fight again.

Did you guys see that, Stani? 2025 is all sugar no more social media my team will post i'm like bet you know like game time baby let's go yeah that's good yeah i like that i like that i want to see i want to see sugar just totally dedicate himself 100 not that he doesn't already but dude what are you

Sugar versus Umar would be crazy.

But, I mean, I was supposed to play golf with him. Probably Kim Jong-un, too. I want to meet that guy. Oh, that's still happening.

I want to get Kim Jong-un on the pod. Oh, my God.

We'll see. We'll see if we can get it done. Let's go ahead.

Freezer pulls a Mike Malak in North Korea.

Huh?

Is Bob re-signed? No. Bob's impossible to make a deal with. Yeah.

The second you pay Bob in a week, he wants more. And then the week after, he wants more.

We're so lucky that we have the Red Rock, too, to play at. I like playing at the Red Rock. I mean, Red Rock's just amazing. The hospitality, the way that they take care of us is fucking unbelievable.

And then more. And then more. And then more. And then more. And it never stops.

But listen, Bob's business model is this. Bob takes advantage of rich people for a living. Yes, sir. And in order to do that, he needs to stay relevant. And he gets away with it. I'll give you that. And that's why he's with us. Because every time he's with us, people hit him up. And it's easier for him to close a deal. That's incorrect. We have our own name, by the way.

Bob is a big name. But I will leverage...

I don't want my hands in Bob's pockets.

When we did it, there was only two podcasts on YouTube in our era. Exactly. Impulsive and us. Exactly. All right.

Fighting words. You should have seen it today. It was like beef.

Alright, we'll wrap up. No, we can wrap it up anyway, right? Well, that was our internal boys podcast. If you're watching, happy holidays. Merry Christmas. Happy New Year. Happy Hanukkah. Happy everything.

I love the football jersey with the basketball jersey.

You almost made that putt.

Guy said it like it was a favor, eh? He's like, I'll fuck a thousand girls for an elk if I have to. Yeah, but wait.

That's like a dream face off. Yeah, it was a dream face off. Wait, wait, bro. So Candace. Is she the same as the Bonnie Blue Girl or is that someone different?

She's going to go for 1,000.

It's crazy that's where we are as a society, but... There's not even enough time for that in a day, though. I don't know how she... That's gotta just be just, like, quick sliding in and quick... It's gotta be a minute. It's gotta be, like, one pump next, one pump next.

No, not everyone can bust.

There's no time for that. No, but you're missing the major point.

Her clam must just be fucking... Very, very wide open.

Honestly, that should be illegal. No, I think what should be illegal, and this is the one thing I do. No, that should be illegal in the United States and Canada. Here's what should be illegal. In any country that's in NATO.

Where is this taking place?

No, like what country?

No, I'm actually calling the cops.

Yeah, I'm actually dead serious. I'm calling the cops.

I actually might call the cops. We should just play a golf match.

I don't think that should take place.

There's got to be some sort of law. Here's what we should debate. If you got to do it. I don't think it's like a 911, but it's like when you call the police. It might take them 30 minutes to call back, and it's just like, yo, I'm just letting you know. This girl's about to bang a thousand guys in one day. I really don't think this is good for the neighborhood.

I don't think it's good for the fucking county. It's definitely not good for the state. And it's not good for the country.

100 chicks in a day is a lot.

Reverse psychology should have the death penalty. There is double standards in society. There's double standards. There's stuff men can get away with and there's stuff women can get away with.

He got a call today on the golf course. He picks it up. He goes, who the hell is this? He's like, It's your brother-in-law. No, I fucking... He's like, when are you coming home for Christmas? He's like, I'll be there tomorrow.

How do you stay there and just sit on the slots for, like, four days? Yeah, you're a big slot player.

Yeah. I mean, no, I think that I don't know. I think I gave Bob a deal. We both agreed on to get guests and he couldn't do it. He didn't know.

And what's your what's your biggest goal for twenty twenty five?

Yo, we got Aiden Ross, my boy. We go back a little bit. One of the most fucking influential people on the fucking internet. No matter what you do, you're always just like fucking here to stay now.

No, I don't think so.

That's cool. That's one thing I noticed about Trump, too. He really trusts like certain people around him. It's cool how he trusts his son.

And he's like gassing him up like he knows his son's tapped in and he kind of just like whatever his son says, he kind of just like genius listens to.

baron baron uh baron helped out elon helped out you helped out i helped out everyone too oh dude like dude what people don't know too and like i did a couple interviews after and i would always tell people like dana's been plotting on this bro since like the last election i know Like he's been like helping Trump get the youth.

Even you, I remember the first time you guys met too. I was telling Dana, I was like, cause he was looking for people for power slap too. And I was like, dude, you got to fucking meet Aiden for sure. Like this guy's the real deal. And like- Appreciate that Kyle.

But Dana, like Dana fucks with you heavy too. So he's just been like, he's been plotting on this. Dana's like- I love it. He was the guy that helped Trump with the youth, I think.

Yeah, that was crazy.

He's a fucking beast, bro.

That guy's got it all, too. He's a good fighter. Oh, dude. His wife's a fucking, no disrespect, she's an absolute rocket. Like, she's the best-looking wife in the UFC by far. No disrespect to DePore. But yeah, no, that guy's the real deal.

Oh, see, the thing with the UFC, in my opinion, is I think they don't want to when they have two stars like you got to Poria and you got Islam, right? What business wise for the UFC? Does it make sense for them to just kill one of those stars?

It doesn't make sense because like the only way they do that is when it was like Volk versus to Poria where Volk just cleaned out the division multiple times where they're they're in a corner where they're like, yeah, we have to make this fight. But

right now i think toporia's only had one title defense right so it's like if those two fight one person's gonna die and it's like toporia is such a big international star like how big he is overseas and in spain i think they kind of want to just let them both yeah grow and then if they both clean it out then they have to make the fight well it's another thing that's like aspinall versus john jones it's like john at first was saying like john want alex prayer but it doesn't make sense because alex is kind of doing what you're saying exactly he has to build up build up and alex is fucked

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They want to have a star in every division, right? Of course, they need it.

I think it's going to go down, right?

I don't know, man. I think it's going to be close. I would say I got to go for Jon Jones, though. You have to, man.

That's a fight that we absolutely have to go to.

I love Sugar Sean, too, but Marab is a really nice guy. Dude.

Like, when I met him, he's like, he's a pretty funny guy.

He'd be scary in the bedroom, right? Yeah, dude. That guy banging your ex?

He's going to make a comeback. It seems like he's dialed in. I think he's completely off social media.

think so i mean he has to right i think i think he has an expensive lifestyle too and like obviously he has money but yeah when you're fucking ripping your boat and taking jets and doing all that money money starts to get drained right so he has two fights left with the ufc two two fights left and then after that he has the freedom to do the big boxing events and all that yeah so you saw what they were trying to make the logan connor fight right yep i saw that but the ufc is not going to let that happen obviously right

I guess the UFC got a part of it, right? Because it made sense. That's Mayweather. He's the biggest. I mean, and that brought so many eyeballs to the UFC, right?

At this point, it's like not really worth it.

If he fights Logan Paul, is that going to make the UFC that much bigger? No.

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I don't know. I guess he was supposed to fight Canelo, right? Canelo. That would have been crazy. Yeah. Jake's fucking killing it too.

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So he put his own, he saved.

Toronto legend.

It's crazy shit because, yeah, I actually talked to him too and I was going to tell you about this, but he was telling me that new evidence came out and like there's four people's DNA on the gun and his is not one of them, which is like something that came out after the trial that they didn't allow it to be.

They should based on that because like if there's four people's DNA on the gun and his is not one of them. That's like fucking crazy.

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That's what's crazy when you like, cause Tori's been kind of like, I guess he kind of went up against the system a little bit, right? That's one thing that scares me, man. Like if you go up against the wrong people in the system, it's bad. It's scary, right?

Yeah. I want to talk to you about this GTA shit.

What's going to go on with that? And like, what are your plans with that? I know I've heard banks talk about how it's going to completely change everything with like crypto and gaming. Tell me a little bit about that.

He's a loser.

So how does that work? Is the coin going to be like in the actual game?

Yeah.

Damn, that's crazy. Yeah, there's been so much. I haven't dabbled too much in GTA, honestly. I was more of a COD guy, but how big is that game going to be? There's so much hype on it.

Let's get into the podcast. Business-wise with Kik, where are you at? Are you allowed to say what your deal was like, your equity? Are you still an equity partner?

I saw you might, are you like Young Thug's fucking lean plug now?

What made you like, was there a moment when you switched from like that to like gym life and shit?

The first like 30 days is probably like the hardest.

so what the gym helped you kind of like turn shit around yeah that's something that helped me for sure I think a lot of people that have like whether it's alcohol or whatever you're addicted to like yeah you do got to replace it with something and I try to tell people to like bro the gym just fucking saves you bro like yeah if you wake up

in the morning and you like hit a nice workout get your fucking heart rate going that in its own is like a drug like I'm like addicted to the gym for my own mental health if I don't work out for like if I'm traveling or something and sometimes I don't work out for three days I start to fucking like I just feel like a slug

When I'm here, I'll just eat like eggs for breakfast. Yeah. And then just like rice and protein, rice and protein. That's it. And two shakes a day.

Thank you.

Yeah, that's when you were popping off, living with banks in the cloud house.

Thank you. Thank you.

That stuff that you want to do more is more like high production shit.

Thank you. Thank you.

Thank you.

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Let's get back in the pod. What was it like doing the stream with Drake?

And he fucks with you like crazy.

Was that like a dream stream for you?

Damn. Do you think it'll ever happen?

Because that's the thing. He'll say like nine good things, and then he just says one fucked up thing that just ruins his entire credibility, which is annoying.

And it makes him hard to defend, right?

That guy's a good, he's a fucking charming guy though.

He's a charming guy, but he definitely fucking did it. Oh yeah.

Which is dope because then when we fuck up too, like even if you fuck up or we fuck up, People don't really give a fuck, right? If you have that clean ass image your whole life, you're constantly protecting that. Oh, it sucks. And then when you fuck up, people turn on you.

For us, it's kind of like we're just known as scumbags a little bit. Right. So it's like- We get away with it. We get away with everything. Exactly. Yeah.

I know even Kanye, I saw now like him and Drake had beef and now he's like saying Drake's music's fire.

Like it's just like, what would you think of the new album?

Yeah. He has tracks, but it's like Drake has so many tracks. You fucking forget them all. Like some of the singles too are like. You just went to his concert, right? Yeah. I went to his concert. I was in Australia. When you're there, you're like.

But that was kind of a big W for Drake, I think, the Super Bowl performance, right? Oh, for sure. Because if you compare past Super Bowl people, you have Beyonce, Bruno Mars. It's like Kendrick.

No, like, but people don't bring that up. It's crazy. That's what scares me, too, is because, like, I guess when you get to that level and you're so big, like, people really do just want to see you fall.

Nothing Kendrick said was ever proven. Nothing. Obviously, Drake's not fucking banging underage girls.

Yeah, it's like... But that's what's... Isn't that kind of scary, too? Where it's like... When you're that big, people really want to fucking come for you.

Well, Elon will probably only do it if it's on X. I would love to do it. X should get in the streaming game more, right?

100%.

And it's crazy, something me and you have in common is we both got shouted out in the fucking presidential victory speech, bro. What was your reaction to that? I didn't even stay up at night because it was already over, so I went to bed. And then, yeah, I wake up and I see fucking Dana gets on there. And he says he's on there for a minute and he shouts both of us out, which is crazy.

What was your reaction to that?

And bust him with the boys.

Yours was fucking massive.

Yours was massive. Like that was all over mainstream media. Yeah. I remember when you announced it. Cause I get genuinely excited when you like announce like a big stream.

I always know it's going to be like fire.

So how did the Trump thing happen for you? Walk us through that.

That guy's going to be a fucking problem, bro. What is he, like six, seven? That guy's a fucking tree, bro.

Guy's probably hung like a fucking horse, too. He's probably got everything, bro.

I think he just likes seeing people win because he has a crazy eye for talent too. So I think when he sees someone, he's like, yo, that person could be big. He kind of likes proving himself right in a way where he's like, I want to see that person win.

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One song you did while you were in there, the feature on DDG's song, that was a fucking fire-ass verse. Is that what you were kind of speaking to? Or what did you mean when you said, like, I hope they don't come for me the way they came for Drizzy?

You just love to get in there. I know you. You just love to fucking get in there.

We've seen all the IG lives and the way that you've recorded stuff in the past. You can be super quick with it where you'll just get in the booth and lay down fire right away. But I'm wondering, since you have more time, is there any difference with this album where you're doing more writing shit or are you just hopping on the jail phone and just cooking like you did in the past?

How intense is it in there in, like, the area that you're in? Is that, like, a daily thing or, like, every week?

What do you make of this chapter of your life? Because it is just a chapter at the end of the day. Are you a guy that believes everything happens for a reason, and you were kind of meant to go through this for some reason? Or how do you look at it?

Yeah, I feel you. No, I saw you were like, you were mid-recording and then some shit went down in the background. Was that like a verse for the new album?

That's awesome, bro. Makes me happy to hear. We back?

Yes, sir. That's probably it. No, that's, bro, that honestly makes me really happy to hear. You sound like you're in a great place. And, bro, yeah, like I told you before, you've always inspired me and you're inspiring me further now. Just the way that you're just always been a fighter, bro. Every stage of your career, you've always been an absolute fighter.

And I know that inspires a lot of people. Like, I don't know how much you see or how much you're told, but there's so much support for you online. Like, everything I read, everything I see. I don't know if you saw anything with... That was really overwhelming.

Yeah, we had Aiden on last week, too, and he showed up in the Free Tory shirt, and we were talking about that, talking about some of the new evidence. How does that make you feel to, like, hear all the support you're getting?

Not Super Smash again, man.

No, I was going to say, no, you're right, bro. Aiden's a loyal ass guy for sure.

I love Aiden. He's always been there to support us too. So what is the status of the case right now? I don't know how much you could talk about it, but I know we saw, I think you guys submitted for like factual innocence. Is that the word? And now the court is considering it. Can you give us like an update on where it's at?

Correct. Correct. That sounds correct.

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So this is all new evidence, though? Like the four people's DNA on the gun, that wasn't in the first trial whatsoever?

So it went from now inconclusive to now completely excluded.

That new fact alone is insane. Just the fact that it went from inclusive to excluded and there's four people's DNA on the gun. And none of them are yours. That should be enough for them to open up the factual innocence like now.

100%.

All right, brother. Well, I don't know how much time you have, but I just wanted to fucking get you on here and say that we're behind you, we're supporting you, and we appreciate you coming on. So when's the album dropping?

That's all we got, March 7th. All right, Tory Lanez from jail. I mean, he did three jail calls in a row. Buddy in the back was probably fucking starting to knock for the jail phone. So no, we love Tory. We appreciate him doing this, especially from jail. We're rooting for him. That guy's been inspiring me. I've been following him since I was living back in Canada too. We're both from Toronto area.

So it was really cool that he could call in. Free Tory, man. Drop a thumbs up on the episode. We'll see you guys next week.

I don't know how much you want to reveal, but how did you guys crack the code on the quality and making it sound so good?

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I know you told me the other day, like, this is not some just album from jail. This is like a real deal album that's going to like compete with all your other shit, right?

100%.

What made you want to, like, why right now? Like, I saw a video of you saying, like, Drake dropped, The Weeknd dropped his best shit, like, now it's time for you to drop. Is this, like, did they kind of, like, inspire you or, like, not pressure you to drop, but, like, did that have anything to do with the timing?

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Yeah.

That's crazy.

All right, boys, we got a crazy episode here. We've been talking about doing this a while, me and Tory, the last few months. So we got Tory calling in exclusively on the phone right now. Tory, how we doing?

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What do you think about like with Drake and how the industry's kind of turned against him? Like you see videos now. I don't know if your boys tell you or you could see anything, but... You can't find a shit on Spotify. There's just a whole bunch of sketchy shit going on. I see. I don't know if you have any thoughts on that. Because you're kind of on the inside of it too, right? The whole industry?

Yeah, no rituals for sure.

I understand that there's a scrutiny because it's like... All right, we only get 15 minutes at a time on Torrey's Jail Phone, so we'll be back momentarily. We back?

All right, we back. We finished that note on the industry? Yeah, it was pretty much just a bunch of fuck shit going on and you don't want to sell your soul.

Good, brother. Chilling, chilling. I know we've been talking about doing this for a while. There's been a couple speed bumps. Yeah.

Think I should go with these shades or without them? I'd say with.

So would she warn you or just kind of give you like a head nod like, I'm going to go?

Like, we didn't need to be there. We didn't. We both got a fucking shout out in the presidential acceptance speech too from Dana. What was your reaction when you saw that?

Meanwhile, everyone was.

Cause the older ladies too, that really, that kind of turns them on. Like when they saw that.

One thing I noticed about you too, like even at the inauguration, the older ladies too, you kind of do something to them that fucks with their mind a little bit. Like they really like you. I noticed that. Yeah. Everywhere we went at the inauguration, like wives would be with their husbands and this girl was like melting, like melting over you.

Like, I think her husband was like getting a little upset, but then he probably was a fan of you too.

I didn't think of why that was so magical. Because that was an off limits area. We snuck into this area. Crazy. They had no food. They had no water. Yeah. And we discovered this magical little area with Conor McGregor.

There was a lot of kids like that.

But it was cool. It was a cool experience.

So many. I had a great time. I mean, what a once in a lifetime experience.

I know. He was in our row, the mayor of New York.

It's just about money and sex at the end of the day, right?

I think so, dude. I mean, it seemed like Mary Adams was there to get laid. What? I think so.

There wasn't any chicks on our row. Then he was there for money.

Nice lady.

And then Connor was just the fucking wrench in it all.

What's your take on wrestling?

I can't get into it.

That sounds like a nice neighborhood.

No, they're all jacked and shit now, right? It used to be... And now it's all the TikTokers coming into the WWE and stuff too, right?

The pink guy guy from set.

Just like one little dysfunctional thing about yourself.

And he has fucking pink eye.

What would you do differently as like the creative director?

So just more disabilities and like Chinese food involved in the entire.

Yeah.

Yeah. It's become. Yeah. Yeah. I see what you're saying.

Nice.

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I think that was the best, the funniest interview I've ever fucking seen in my life. Yeah, it was so funny. I mean, when you brought up the cocaine makes you feel like a mechanic, like just to the future president and the former president.

It had me and all the boys howling.

Because it kind of is, it's a true thing. Like the cocaine that makes you feel like kind of like a mechanic. So I just thought it was a funny line. I saw that clip everywhere.

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I mean, what's that over 13 million?

I mean, I haven't checked in a while, but last time I checked, it was fucking it was crazy.

He's fucking hilarious.

It was the... We don't have a producer guy that none of them are capable, but... Yeah, I'm kind of shocked by that a little bit.

Was that the cane guy?

I'm like, what is he doing? What the fuck was he doing? I don't know.

Crazy. So that line in the thing, the mechanic cocaine line, what, what region do you think in the world or the States probably just has the worst like cocaine?

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Mexico.

Oh, yeah.

Just like morning dew on the bag.

I know, apparently China, right? But, like, I don't know. I don't know if I believe that. So the Chinese are over there just making fentanyl purposely to poison people doing cocaine? I mean, I guess it's possible, but it seems like a lot of effort.

It seems like it might just be cheaper to make and they might just be mixing it together in Mexico, right? Like the damp guy is probably like, yo, I want to save a few bucks. I'm going to mix some fentanyl into this cocaine.

These two idiots are going to do it regardless.

You were in Vancouver. Is that last night? Yeah. They love cocaine up there.

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Racist to Asian people?

I mean, being racist to Asians is just, I don't know. I feel like that's a little uncalled for. Like, they haven't done anything that bad.

You met the Tates. What did you think of them?

And then after that, it's just, you're just being a dick.

There's no money in it, no. There's no money in racism. There used to be. I don't know, dude. I think there used to be probably. It depends. Back in the 19-whatevers. Depends on what history you believe in. It was probably a good business back in the day to be racist.

And you're never going to be able to completely eradicate racism. No.

Like you can't eradicate murderers. You can't eradicate rapists. Right. Racism is always going to be there. But I think people love each other right now more than ever.

One thing I'm a little sketched about the Trump thing is this whole tariff situation because I'm Canadian too.

I'm just getting a lot of flack from the Canadian people, you know, like with the whole tariff shit. What do you think about it?

How'd you become a Winnipeg Jets fan?

I think so.

Oh, so you just became a Winnipeg Jets fan.

I don't know. I think Canadians hate Americans right now.

I mean, how was it when you went up there? Great. Yeah. Well, they probably love you. But I think the appetite for Trump right now is not the best.

Yeah. Canada just needs good... They need like a new leader ASAP. It's just been a fucking... When I grew up there, it was totally different than it is now.

It's just different. It's just a different... Yeah. I mean, people will come out of university and like everyone that... All my friends that went to university, it's like tough for them to get a job. And if they do, they're making like... 50K Canadian a year or like around that ballpark, which is like 40K US. It's tough to get a job there. And then, I mean, a lot of immigration.

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Thank you.

Thank you.

He's a legend.

I feel like he was kind of on this trajectory of stardom. Not that he's not a star. He's not talented, but he kind of disappeared a little bit. But maybe it'll pay off in the long run. I don't know. But he kind of disappeared a little bit. Right.

Last fight was really close.

People say he lost.

That's a great. I'll be a big fight for him. And Chandler is a huge star, too. Right.

Oh, shit. What's that like? You can't work out next to that guy, right?

And so where's the dream spot for it to air?

Yeah. You can see why, right? Yeah. And then hopefully Jon Jones fights this year. Oh, yeah.

So what's next for you? Just continuing the pod and you're excited for the movie? Is there anything cool coming up?

Things are just popping up all over the place now too, right? Like now Peacock's got their own thing or fucking like... I don't know what's on Hulu anymore.

It's your birthday tomorrow too, right?

Happy early birthday.

What do you like to do on your birthday? Are you, like, a chill guy? Like, cake, no cake, or just... No.

I heard he's getting a bar here now, too, Post Malone.

I thought his country—I mean, I don't know how his album was received in the country world. I personally thought there was tons of bangers on it. And Post Malone's fucking super talented.

Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't pass one up if I was offered one, so I can't really hate on it.

yeah does happy dad have a bar no we're not allowed to have you can't name a bar the same name as the alcohol it's called like tide house laws so there's all these weird alcohol laws like so many crazy ones with like marketing and that and that's one so you can't have a license to a bar and also sell alcohol oh that makes sense kind of because then all the bars would just be like miller light exactly or whatever or happy dad exactly but it would be sick if we could it would be cool huh

Well, because I'm asking you shit. Why? So do you get nervous when you're more interviewing people?

Yeah. Interviewing people.

Yeah, you have to do way more.

Yeah, because I guess you don't go on many other people's pods.

Tim Dillon's hilarious. You and Tim Dillon are the funniest.

You're fucking hilarious, though, too.

But then I feel like sometimes when we're sitting here talking about it— I know, it's like a whole world, like, with all you guys kind of under the Joe umbrella, right?

Not to be gay, but if you're going to suck one person's cock, I mean, you know what I'm saying? Yeah.

Yeah, I mean, you want to be in the vicinity of Rogan's cock.

Right. You don't even have to suck it.

Anyone commenting that, if they had the opportunity to be in the vicinity of Rogan's horn, they would take that opportunity, I believe.

Why does that get annoying? Those like people saying that?

I mean, sorry, you can't support a friend or what?

Yeah, I mean, that makes sense to me.

I'm just kind of shocked at it. No, we wanted you to come talk, bro. We appreciate you coming on. I know we've been trading favors, helping each other out.

This guy's such a great guy, too.

Shout out to Theo Vaughn. Best guy. Funniest guy on the internet, in my opinion. So we appreciate you coming on.

So you were like directing as well.

Well, I think you're just very critical. Like you're you like to have a good product no matter what you do. I've noticed that about you. Like all your stuff's funny that comes out. And I think now you're doing a new Avenue. So you're like, you just want it to be great, which is a natural feeling, right?

And if it flops, it's the worst thing ever, right? Like you're fucked.

Let's do a little sophistication.

It was a lot of cool cameos, right?

Because I know those boys are fucking rowdy. I've partied with those boys. They're always just looking for scraps. Did they assault anyone on set or no?

You can't just say my son and expect me to like know what you're saying.

Right. Just like a little flash warning.

That's kind of what you want from the Diaz brothers. Yeah, yeah. Were they all there? What was the gang like?

I didn't expect them to drive Teslas.

The self-driving aspect?

I don't think he ever leaves like normally. Yeah, I didn't know that. He's always getting escorted out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. And those boys just love to naturally like, they're just looking for a scrap.

And was he down at the time?

I guess it worked out, right?

Did he look experienced or no? I mean, he looked like he fucking... A little bit, right?

He's been nosed down on the counter for sure. Yeah. He's been a vacuum for sure.

Yeah. Yeah. It wouldn't be a good long donation.

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Yeah. We went to for St. Paddy's to Ireland.

So that's someone we both chilled with at the inauguration.

Is that like Latins, Latinos in general? Or is that just... I don't know.

Yeah. I mean, it was so cool. Like that bus ride with just, I mean, we got, shout out Alex B, our boy too. He was the one that set you up too, right?

And me and Theo got on the bus and then we're with the Paul brothers. And then Alex tells us that Conor McGregor is going to be getting on the same bus as us. And those guys have like, they've been chirping on Twitter for fucking years, right? So I was like, holy fuck, are we going to be on the bus with all three of these guys? And it was actually a great bus ride.

I know. Right. Not that we know of.

It's not the most functional mouth.

No, this is pretty much it. We got big P.O. on the pod for the second time. We've been a lot of the same places recently. We've been trying to do this. You've been busy with your movie.

I don't know, something. Vander Holyfield?

Oh, Sigmund Freud.

I don't even know who the fuck that is. I actually really don't.

For me, it was the first time- You were a fan of my fit too, right? You said on your pod? Bro, best looking I'd seen you. I just feel like the chicks, they do like, they kind of have that soft spot for guys that commit business crimes. Like what was that fucker that got arrested recently?

No, that guy looks like shit though. The other guy, the better, the better looking guy. Not that I look like him, but the chicks were all over him. So they were, yeah. I also went to Tom Ford too. And the lady there just, she fucking rinsed me, bro. Like she was, she was so good looking. She could have sold me air.

So I kind of got taken advantage of a little bit, but yeah, you know what, you know, like when that happens kind of, Oh yeah, dude. Like she could have sold me fucking anything and I would have probably bought it.

Like one of those hypoallergenic dogs?

They're kind of making you feel a little bit like a loser, right? And then you're telling them like, oh, well, I'm doing this YouTube thing. And they're like, ha. Like even your friends are kind of like, you know. My friends always fucking supported me. So I never had like people putting me down. But you feel it a little bit, right?

damn i think there's almost i mean i know in canada especially there's almost like more security and like chasing your dream now like i think it's it seems so hard to get a a really good job coming out of school now especially where i'm from back home i know people are coming out of school and they just can't get jobs so I would say, I mean, to me, you only have one life.

The scariest thing to me, more than being broke for a little bit, is living a life that you don't want to live. I think a lot of people, the main thing is they're just scared to be broke for a little bit. They're like, well, how am I going to pay my bills? What am I going to do? And it's like, I mean, we were broke for a long time. We were struggling. We would sleep in cars.

We would sleep at fans' houses. You've got to go through that stage of being broke, having no money to kind of get to where you need to be, right? Yeah.

We were there when YouTube was probably its biggest. It was like Jake Paul was his probably biggest doing daily vlogs every day, David Dobrik, and then they had the Cloud House. So FaZe Banks, I don't know if you know him, but he's like the owner of FaZe. I give a lot of credit to him. He basically tweeted out at us and just said, hey, do you guys want to move into the cloud house?

And that was like him, Alyssa Violet, Rice Gum, Summer Rae, Wolfie, who was huge at the time. So these were like the biggest YouTubers and we're like nowhere on their level. And yeah, we land in L.A., start driving and we're driving up through the Hollywood Hills. And then we pull up to this massive mansion that we see in all these people's videos and And that was just, like, completely surreal.

I don't know if he just wanted to stay in power, but, I mean, his wife left him fucking... I mean, that guy just needed to get the hell out of Parliament.

Like, I couldn't even believe it. Just walking into that house. Like, it's a completely insane house. $100 million. And we got to live there for, like, six months. Rent free. Shout out FaZe Banks. He's a fucking legend. I owe him for life. But... Yeah, that was a crazy time. It was Hollywood shit, like house parties, and you never knew who was going to pull up.

Lil Uzi would pull up to your house, or rappers, all the girls. It was pretty crazy. It was a crazy time.

Yeah, so we stayed in LA for a little bit. We got our own house there too after that. We had like... The first house we ever signed a lease on too, I think we had like probably 20 people living in there in like an eight bedroom. So that was like our very first house. We had one room with like three or like two, three story bunk beds. So like six guys sleeping in a movie theater room. Wow.

Yeah, it was just like, it was kind of like the LA Nelk frat house. So that worked for a bit. And were they staff, friends? Staff and friends. I mean, I live with four of my boys that I grew up with here. But yeah, we probably have like seven of my boys that are on that work for us and do different things, whether it's social media or merch or different stuff that we have going on. But yeah.

Do you miss it?

Yeah, I miss it. It was pretty surreal. I mean, to live in a house like that and just... I feel like no one really gets to experience that, you know? It was a cool time, but I think, yeah, I think LA is just different now. And now it's more of a TikTok-y scene. We don't really need to be around there too much. There's a lot of good podcast guests there too, so we still make LA trips, but...

We moved to Miami about a year ago, and I fucking love it. Talk to me about the difference between LA, Miami. I mean, California is just a little too liberal for us, I think. I don't know. I feel like if we did our whole Trump thing during the election, I feel like we would have been getting grilled everywhere we went, right? We probably would have got shot up on Melrose and shit.

That's what I mean.

It's dangerous there too. I know my boy, Stiney, he got his car robbed. It's like turning into a dump. Out in the open? He just parked it and someone just robbed his car. It's pretty dangerous there. I think in Florida, just no income tax. For me, like I told you, it's way closer to Toronto. So I find myself...

Going back home a lot more, seeing my family, seeing my friends. How long it is to fly across the country.

So that type of shit has been happening just all over Canada. It feels like a Babylon Bee sketch. It doesn't feel like a real politician saying something. Yeah, that's what I mean. It's just like, you need someone that's going to stand up for Canada. And I think there's some good choices. The Pierre Polivare, I think he would do a really good job at kind of giving Canada a big comeback.

And you lose three hours. Yeah, so it's a red eye within the same country. A day to get there and a day to get back. Two travel days. So yeah, I think LA is just a lot different now. It's just not quite the same as it used to be.

Yeah, like health-wise, you mean? Yeah, I think this is the best place to kind of be healthy. It's a good HQ for us because we travel so much too. Most of our work is on the road, whether it's NELC videos or podcasts. So I like coming back here because you saw how it was this morning. This is all we do when we're home. It's like two different lives. Mm-hmm.

One's on the road, and then when we're back here, like, I really don't do shit. I wake up, I fucking work out, and then I'll just chill, keep the business moving on my phone, keep videos moving, planning, golf, and then we go on the road again and it's chaos. Was there a moment that you broke through, do you think? With Nelk? Yeah. I don't think so.

I think the secret to Nelk and why we have such a cult following is that there's never been one moment that made us. It's just been like this the whole time. There was never like a huge thing. So I think when you blow up that fast, like these like... like Hawk Tua's or whoever have you, they come and go so fast, right?

They get so famous so quickly and people become obsessed with them and then they're just gone. I think there's also- You got to build that foundation.

I wish I was me.

I agree. I agree with that too. But I think, I mean, you know how much work this is behind the scenes and how strategic you have to be too. For us, like we've been doing this for 10 years. So like you also learn along the way. Right. So now where I am, where I am, where the stakes are the highest. And like you said, there's more responsibility. I've learned so many lessons. Don't do this.

Don't, you know, maybe don't trust this person. Don't get into business with this person. These people. overnight 24 hours they're super famous and they have no fucking clue how this business works how to discern who to trust who to let in they have no fucking clue so they're like they're pretty much they're gonna get screwed unless they're a genius right some of them last but most of them don't

Exactly. And I've almost got screwed by managers and shit too.

So close, bro. Decisions that would not make me be here right now, for sure. Really? Yeah, for sure. We've almost signed with like... A few different managers that maybe even like we were really close to like giving like equity away. That would have like torched us. So like one thing, too, if people are listening, like you got to be very, very careful who you trust.

You know, like having a partner is like it's like a marriage. You got to like. You got to be careful who you get into business with.

I think so. Yeah, you got to move slow. I think, yeah, you got to get a team of people around you that you can kind of trust, whether it's friends, you know, someone that you can at least bounce ideas off. Because, yeah, I would say just move slow. Don't react too quickly to things. Sit back and just kind of see how things play out sometimes.

I never give a shit about what anyone else is doing, really. Maybe I'll get some inspiration from other people, but even some people in our crew will be like, yo, this person's doing this. We should be doing this. And I'm like... dude, just relax. Like this is, this game too is a marathon. It's not a sprint.

Like the entire social media business is like, it is such a mental marathon that if you get caught up in like what other people are doing or, you know, you're going to lose it. And I think the most important thing with this is you got to keep like, you got to keep your mind right too.

That's why I personally don't get caught up in like, if I need like a month off from like doing something or like videos, I don't get caught up in that because I feel like if people look back and

Revenue? I mean, our merch business, I don't think anyone's ever really, I feel like we were putting up like Kylie Jenner numbers at that time. In the peak of our merch business, when we were uploading Nelk every week on the road, I think our biggest was 30 million gross in about 30 minutes. 30 million in revenue. We had 350,000 people waiting on the site at the time of the drop.

Like even Shopify was like, what the fuck is going on? Yeah. And that's revenue, right? So that's- It's top line. That's one thing I've never really talked about too much too is, and I know my old partner, Jesse, would agree too, is that the revenue sounds nice, but when you talk about profit and how much we were spending on videos, maybe people that we pranked were suing us-

there's there is so much when you that number sounds amazing but in terms of what me and jesse were chipped away and able to pocket and you know like steve will do it he was getting paid directly off merch so what me and jesse were even able to pocket was like nowhere even near that it's that line about uh revenue is vanity profit is sanity

Unless Canada becomes the 51st state, right? We don't know, but...

Yeah, I don't even like talking about revenue too much, to be honest. It sounds great and it's great to brag about.

Correct. yeah that that's impressive for sure like we'd look at the map of the shopify i don't know if you've ever done like a live drop and you can see all the little it shows where people are on the site from in the entire world so you just see all these little dots and like you're seeing people in like india and like it was cool it was a really cool that era of nelk was like when was that

It's weird. Cause like, I just went home for Christmas and like, it's kind of like 50, 50, like a lot of people are actually like, yo, that would be kind of sick. Because I think a lot of Canadians want to come to the States. We love traveling here and stuff like that. But then obviously there's a lot of Canadians that's like, no, what the fuck? This is our country.

This is before that. Yeah.

Yeah. I mean, that's, that's what drew them to us was the type of numbers we were putting up. I don't, I don't think, I don't know. I don't want to say it, but I don't think anyone's ever really done what we've done with merch and like a YouTube business.

um back then yeah it was all in-house every everything was in-house so we would like we had designers on payroll we had a bunch of different people that would source stuff from china um all the marketing was done by osgod who's like our creative genius he's the goat he edits all our videos

every everything was done in-house which was which was even crazier so when we would do a drop there'd be like 25 people and we'd all be in our milk frat house just all everyone has their laptops open and we're all watching the numbers for wi-fi connections but at that time it was crazy because like that was the only thing we were doing you know there was no there was no happy dad there was no brand deals not even any podcast

There was no podcast. The only thing we were doing was pushing merch. And our fans literally helped us build this because we weren't getting paid off YouTube at all. Why? We never got paid off YouTube. We were demonetized since day one for swearing, for alcohol, for drug references. Our videos never got monetized. So that was like, that's how we built our merch business.

Like we were getting views.

Yeah, we weren't getting paid. So it was kind of a blessing in disguise. We had to get smart and build a business around our audience. So we weren't lying when we were looking into the lens and telling our fans like, hey guys, if you guys buy merch, like you're keeping the- I can eat dinner tonight. Yeah, I can eat dinner. And not only that, we can continue to make these videos. So that's how-

It was like a reoccurring thing where our fans literally kind of helped us make all these videos.

Right away, we're just getting into it?

But I think Trump's just trolling when he says that type of shit. Well, you'd know. You've spent enough time with him. I would know. And I think I've spent a lot of time with him. But the last time that I was with him, which is when we flew on his plane right before the election-

It's just building hype. Yep. Everything in this business is just building hype, right? And once you learn how to do that, I feel like you can apply it to anything. Yeah.

I don't know. I'm not the best at kind of defining the way that like my mind works sometimes. But I mean, building hype. Yeah, you can't go go wrong with just literally what it is. Building hype is like, you know, say it's dropping on this date and then maybe two days later, post something else about it. Remind people two days later, post something different and engaging. Remind them again.

And then the day of, you know. Posting like a bunch of times before something happens. I think sometimes it is fire just hitting them with the sneak attack drop too, because that goes crazy sometimes. But yeah, you can't go wrong with building hype and doing multiple posts, building anticipation. Mm-hmm.

I got to see like a more real side of him, kind of like a button down, literally version, like he had his jacket off, he had a few buttons off and he was just himself.

That's very interesting.

That's a good way of defining it. Yeah, because the pregame is the best part of the night, for sure. When all the boys are just there before the girls pull up and you're just cranking beers, just chilling. So I can definitely relate to that, actually.

Most money I've spent. I'm not like a huge... I have a few watches and I have like a car, but I think, yeah, the most money I've spent, I guess, was probably... It's not like a purchase, but probably I retired my parents in the same day about four or five years ago. So that took about $700,000. So one year at Christmas, I just... I had enough money to do it.

And like one thing about me is like a lot of people said their parents never supported them. But for me, I would be like...

nowhere without my parents i got so fucking lucky and like my mom just says too like they just had blind faith like they just believed in me and they supported me so when i kind of had enough money to do that i just did it so that took about yeah like seven hundred thousand dollars to do that yeah that's a big and then my mom got my mom got carried away she i guess she has the free spirit like me she like invested it in like a bunch of like

she didn't fucking retire ethereum no she put it in she put it in the fucking housing market and trudeau fucked us over the last five years so now i gotta i just told her this christmas i gotta re-retire her until she can sell those houses so when when uh trudeau gets the fuck out she'll be able to sell the two houses that she bought and then uh yeah but that's probably i like spending my money more on like memories and like taking all my friends on like a trip what about some of the trips

Um, I mean, we just had a, yeah, like, this week for New Year's, like, we just went, like, a bunch of different places. Like, we just did, like, fun shit with everyone, like, yachts and, like, stuff like that. Or, like, we'll go to Cancun and rent a house and just, like, chill. Stuff like that.

I don't want to say everything because it's just, you know, it's boys being boys at the same time. But I don't know. The way I can explain it is almost like he was like six beers deep, but he wasn't. Like, it was just like he was just having the best time. We were just laughing, cracking jokes, just boys being boys. So I think, and he gets a kick out of it.

Like, I feel like spending your money on memories and, like, I love bringing my friends with me and just, like, having, like, a sick-ass time. I feel like I spend too much money on that type of shit. But in terms of, like, watches or jewelry or...

To be honest. Cause Steve will do it. Bought me my first car. He bought me an Audi RS7. So that was like 140 grand. Shout out to Steve. He's bought like 40 people cars. So then this, the Audi just shut down. Thing was a piece of shit over like four years later. So I was able to just trade that in as the down payment and then just get this new car.

My business manager said it was a great investment to just finance it. So. It's actually the first car I've ever bought. Thank you, business manager.

That's my favorite thing. It's just, cause you never forget that shit too, you know? And it's like, yeah, not everyone can do that shit. So to just, I don't know, that to me is just stuff you never forget. And it just makes you so happy having a good ass time with like your boys. Nothing beats that.

I mean, if they haven't been on captured on camera, it's probably for a reason.

So I probably can't really talk about them.

Yeah, definitely. Last week. We can't talk about, um, but on, I mean, best memories. I think like probably, yeah, one of the coolest things we ever did, I think, was probably the first time we went to Abu Dhabi. I was telling you about that. That to me was like one of the craziest thing.

It was the craziest two weeks I've ever had in my life because the UFC brought us out to Abu Dhabi for Khabib's last fight during the COVID bubble, the heat of COVID. So we had to quarantine for a total of like four days to get there. Um, and then that's when we met like Dana white for the very first time in Abu Dhabi, we, we got like a whole full scale treatment there.

And then one week later we went on air force one with Dana too, and met Trump for the first time in 2020. So that was like, that's probably the coolest two weeks that like really changed my life. I think that just like, every time I think back to it, I'm just like, this is a mind fuck. Like, how did this happen to me? It's just, yeah.

There's been so, there's so much crazy shit with Nelk and like over the last 10 years, it's just so surreal. I can't even believe it.

getting a reaction out of people so i think when he sees this whole 51st state thing and he sees people like reacting to it he's gonna kind of go with it and i think it's also kind of like a negotiation tactic too you know to really i mean the canadian leaders are all responding to it it's such an absurd thing but at the same time it's becoming so real now that all these canadian leaders are actually having to respond with it that's why you know that the troll's gone far enough

A lot. I've looked up to Dana White, like, my whole life, honestly. Like, me and my dad would watch UFC, like, when I was on Spike TV, when it was just, like, it was nothing, you know? I've been watching since I was probably in, like, 8th grade. So I've looked up to Dana White, and the UFC is, like, way bigger now. I don't know how long you've been following it, but...

it wasn't the ufc that it was today like right now it's just like it's such a big brand and stuff but they had to like battle to build that so i've kind of seen the evolution of the ufc as i'm sure a lot of people have listening and like this wasn't even like legal in states like it used to not be legal in new york like i watch these guys like battle state by state never give up

And just build it into this incredible fucking brand that it is today. And you see all these other MMA organizations now. It's never going to compete with the UFC. The UFC is fucking unmatched. So I've always looked up to Dana White for that. And just what he's been able to achieve. You can see he's not a quitter.

From the outside, and then when I met him, you can really see, like, that guy's not a fucking quitter. How so? Well, even, like, look how he handled COVID, right? That's what blew up the UFC so much. Like, every other sport shut down, UFC was the only one that kept going. Like, Dana White was the only commissioner of a sport that was able to keep that sport going all throughout the heat of COVID.

Not only keep it going, blow it the fuck up. COVID was actually a good thing for the UFC because it was the only thing on. And that guy, yeah, just behind the scenes too, he doesn't quit. And he'll call me and give me advice whenever something's going on that he'll see. And yeah, he's, like I told you before, he is just the most loyal fucking guy you will ever meet. It's so crazy.

For us, he'll just... I don't know. It's almost like blind loyalty too in the same way. It's just like he's always there for us no matter what. And even sometimes he just doesn't even need to be. Even if I'm sick, he'll call me and be like, yo, you good, bro? You need an IV? He's just always there for us. So having a friend like him is... It's truly like insane.

Yeah, I think – I mean, he's obviously a savage, right? Like, even though I'm friends with him, like, I'll literally watch almost every Dana White, like, post-UFC press conference because the guy is just a fucking savage. Like, if a media guy goes at him, he's going to fucking ream them out. You know what to get with Dana White, right? He's himself. He speaks his mind.

So with the UFC stuff, we don't we kind of stay away from that. We let him handle the business of that. We don't even really talk UFC business with Dana ever because he talks about that shit all the fucking time when we're with him. If we're talking business, we're talking about Happy Dad. We're talking about Howlerhead.

We're talking about the podcast or we're talking about maybe new ventures that we want to do together in the future. And we've never had, like, any type of partnership, like, with Dana or the UFC besides, like, some clothing. But there's no, like... Formal agreement. There's no formal agreement.

He's so good at trolling that these guys are actually having to respond. Take it seriously. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Unless they're going to be the governor of Canada.

Like, even with Happy Dad and Howlerhead, I know Dana had offered me, like, a little piece of Howlerhead back in the day. And, like, I kind of just told him in the most respectful way, like... I'm really appreciative of this, but like, I just want to do whatever you want me to do. And I don't want to take a percentage of your company.

Like, I just want to remain friends and like, let's just help you. And he was on the same page. And I think, I think you're like really respected that. Yeah. So with Happy Dad, he's fucking helped us so much. Like we'll go and do Happy Dad Howlerhead tours together and stuff. So he's kind of like the uncle of Nelk, right? He's pretty much like a Nelk boy. The big scary uncle of Nelk.

The big scary uncle that you don't fuck around with. Yeah. No, that guy's, he's a legend. Everyone that knows him in real life knows like how great of a person he is.

I don't know how he does it, but he does it. And that's why he's Dana White. He's just a fucking...

Yeah.

You could just tell he's a fucking slimeball.

slippery demeanor yeah you think hey i don't fucking trust you guy and he fooled everyone with the free weed legalization when he first ran what's that i think i think that's like when he first ran it's just because he was going to legalize weed like that's why everyone loved them okay that never came to fruition no it did it's legal in canada okay yeah so i guess he did one delivered on a promise yeah uh but yeah it's watching dana operate especially at that level especially with the additional amount of scrutiny and all the rest of the stuff that's happened is

Yeah, that guy's like... I mean, when that guy walks into a room, obviously he just soaks up, obviously all the attention in the room. That's one thing I noticed too. One thing I noticed about him too is like, yeah, he's very, he likes to get everybody's opinion, whether you're like his most trusted advisor or someone like me or someone that is just in the room.

wild it's very very he just likes to win too one thing about him I know what drives him and it's proving people wrong and that's kind of one thing I think me and him have in common is we both like just like shutting people up You know, like whether it's fans in the comments or for him, it's the media. Shutting people up is a good fucking feeling. You know what I mean?

When everyone's saying something and they're all counting you out, it just drives you and you're like, I just want to shut these people up so fucking badly. I think that's one thing that that drives both of us.

You know what I mean by that or no?

You need that sometimes I feel.

Canada is not the same country that I knew when I was growing up.

Oh, yeah. It's probably when Joe said something. Fuck.

Oh, yeah. One guy. Yeah. Of course.

But once they're in the cage, it's done. Yeah. I mean, it's the UFC.

They obviously help put people in the cage that they want to. I mean, that's obvious, but like once you're in the cage, it's up to you. You know, they're, they're not fighting for you when you're in the cage. Yeah.

Yeah.

I still don't really understand it. I mean, we still like chirp each other about it. I don't know what he was looking for. I mean, if you ask Drew, our guy, like he said that we owed him money and we just didn't. So he's a part of the pod.

Then he was part of the pod. Bob was doing his thing, right? He was Bob's and me and Bob are great friends now. And like, I hope we will remain great friends, hopefully. He's a great guy. He's talented. He's funny So I wanted to start a podcast and I was always thinking of who to start it with and I was like Yeah, I think this Bob guy's really funny, right? So we gave him a great fucking deal.

He's always asking people, what do you think about this? What do you think about this? What do you think about this? What do you think about this? I noticed that he does that a lot. And I think he's just like subconsciously like kind of collect. It's like a poll he does. And I've noticed that he does that a lot. He's always asking people what they think of something.

I think it was like Seven seventy five hundred or ten thousand dollars an episode thirty percent of the ads and by the way He has no YouTube channel. He's launched like four unsuccessful pods at this point like four different ones and So it's like, Bob, just show up, make some good money. Let me keep this consistent. Let me bring the structure to this. So we're doing good.

And then, yeah, I think I don't know if he had bad people in his ear that were kind of telling him stuff or whatever it was. But yeah, I don't know. I think he just thought for some reason we were screwing him. And or he was missing out on money that he just wasn't missing out on and. He just freaked out. I don't know. I don't know if he was at a bad place.

Yeah. I don't know if he was at a bad place in his life or something as well, too. But yeah, we weren't cool for a while. And that was like the first time I ever really went through some like I stayed quiet for a while, which I always will. I stay quiet until someone really fucking pushes me to the edge, you know, because I don't want to.

I never got big by like attacking people online or like airing out personal shit. So that's just not even though I could get views doing it, you know. that's just not me. So I kind of just had to sit back and wait till Bob kind of forced me to a point where I had to like, just kind of own his ass a little bit. And people kind of saw right through it.

And we just came with the receipts and that was it. And yeah, we weren't, then he like sued us and shit. And it was a whole thing. We, we did like a thing that we like joke about now too. We had to do, um, a mediation, um, Which is, like, that was, like, part of the clause. Like, if there's ever a disagreement, you guys have to go into mediation. So we had to get onto a Zoom call.

Divorce counseling. Divorce counseling. So we had to get on, like, our side and his side with this lady, Judge Nagel, who we, like, joke about now. And, like, he got on and his side was just, they were, like, internally arguing, like, in front of, like, all of us. It was just, like, it was a complete mess.

And the judge told us, she came into our room and told us, like, listen, I'm not going to lead a horse to water. But they have absolutely no case against you guys whatsoever. Like the judge told us that. I don't even know if she was supposed to. But that's what she told us. So to me, the whole thing was just hilarious. But we both wasted legal money for no reason. So we eventually came to...

just agreement to drop it. And I was like, Bob, if you want to come on the pod, whenever, whenever you want, like come promote whatever you want. You can bring ads on the podcast if you want, like, just like any other guests, you know, like if Wiz Khalifa comes on and he wants to talk about his weed, go ahead. But he hasn't, he's been on the pod and he hasn't brought one single ad.

And then I think that's how he does. kind of makes decisions as well.

So he's just, but he's back on the pod now. He's, he's back on like in and out. Yeah. I mean, we're cool. It was kind of just... I don't know. We'll see what happens. But he's not back on like full time. He's just kind of in and out. But yeah, it was a very... It was an interesting situation.

I don't enjoy that shit. I know everyone on the internet now, it's all about drama. Correct. And we could start drama with people too or whoever it is, but that's just not how we got big. We've never started drama with people. It's always just been about making funny shit. So for me, any opportunity we have to like, I don't know, I just don't look to that to get clout or views. That's just not me.

Yeah. Like that was, that was when I was just pushed to the edge, you know? So like, I'm all, I'm just going to stay quiet until it's to the point where I have to defend myself. Like I don't want to, but that's kind of the way that I work.

Yeah, drama. Drama's huge on the internet. All people want to see is people fight and fucking just go at each other.

Like, that's my... It's like the streamers, the whole streamers, it's a lot about beef and stuff like that.

Yeah, the clip era, I feel like... The clipping error that we're in kind of changed that, right? It's so quick, it's so fast.

100%.

It's the most important... I don't know why we're like that, but we just love to see negative shit about the human brain.

dichotomy thing going on yeah he definitely he definitely loves himself there's there's no question about that but you're right yeah exactly if you're at a golf course he's talking to like the back shop guys like he's a people's person which which i find very interesting i think that's one of his his little secrets and you guys got kind of involved in politics a little bit Yeah, we did.

Yeah, that shit got crazy views, which is, I watched it.

It just sucks you in. Yeah, it's just human nature, I guess. I don't know why. We like to see negative shit about each other.

It sucks, bro. I mean, you know, like Nelk's not the same without Steve. Like there's no... And you can't show him on YouTube. There's no question about it. I mean, Steve will do it was like... He was like the biggest one in Nelk. I mean, he was bigger than me at the time, too. So, yeah, it's a very weird situation. I don't quite understand it. I mean...

I guess he was banned for putting a gambling link in his URL, but I don't know. I think that was just an excuse. Something deeper going on? To be honest, yeah. I mean, he was repping Trump pretty hard at the time, and that was a different time back then, too. And then Steve is just like a lot of people... I don't know if people know, but he is one of the most naturally funny guys in his own way.

He has very dark humor. And I personally love his dark humor too. I think it's hilarious. But I guess there's just certain shit that you just can't say on YouTube. You know what I'm saying? So... I think YouTube was seeing like some of his dark humor shit and they're like, this is a ticking time bomb waiting to happen.

And one thing I've learned from YouTube too is they don't, YouTube doesn't like negative press about YouTubers YouTube. Cause that's going to fuck their right. Right. Like their advertisers don't like that press too. So I know we learned that, um, during COVID, um,

during covid we were like kind of traveling still making videos and we showed up to a college um to film something and we didn't even post any things ourselves like we just like went to the college and we were filming but other people were taking snapchats of us And through that, it gained a huge crowd.

So it looked, all the articles were YouTubers host mass gathering, YouTubers this, YouTubers that. And we got like a manual email from YouTube, which you never get. You always know when it's like automated, right? And this said like, hey, Nelk Boys, which is like Nelk Boys is not even on our channel at YouTube at all. It's like Nelk.

We, yeah, we worked with like an organization called Send the Vote. So they were like a bipartisan organization and it was just about helping people register to vote. So we kind of pushed that on our like social media and stuff because obviously NELC, you know, we kind of own that male 18 to 35 population.

so and it was a custom email that said you guys need to watch your off off platform responsibility which basically means like we're giving you guys one last warning before you we delete you or they're like or your channel's deleted so at that time this was and we're like jesus like we're walking on eggshells so i think since i've had that experience it's kind of the at the end of the day they're just trying to make money in that youtube office right so if they're looking at steve and they're saying this guy's making a bunch of

crazy jokes flying close to the sun flying and probably flying in the sun he flies in the fucking sun straight through it yeah like his videos were fucking hilarious like and the jokes that he makes are fucking hilarious so he was flying in the sun for sure probably right in the fucking center and I think I think they just used the gambling thing as an excuse to be honest yeah

And then I think Steve knows probably he probably could have handled after the strategy of after getting deleted. He probably could have handled it a bit more diplomatic and strategic. But still, I think, I mean, for them to take his channel down is just like all of them is fucking crazy. And then not only that, to tell us that we can't even have him in our videos. So the editors.

Well, then now it's created this weird thing where it's like Steve also when I met when it's created this weird thing where Steve's around and he obviously wants, you know, he wants Nelk to be successful, too. And he wants Nelk to keep going. He's not the guy that's like, yo, put me in the shit. Put me in the shit. That's not him. Right. Our ultimate goal was Steve.

When I first met him, I feel like was to just kind of like help him and make him financially successful. And our main goal was to start this, Happy Dad. So that's Steve. Steve and mine's ultimate goal is to build Happy Dad up into a billion dollar company. So Steve wants obviously Nelk to be successful. He wants us to keep pushing Happy Dad. But

Yeah, I really think that they at least need to start with letting him be in milk videos or something else. And it's weird because he'll go on other people's channels and they won't pick on those channels. But for some reason, why is it only us?

Yeah, we were told very specifically.

It's fucked. Yeah. And I think it's good. You can even bring Tate on, you know, the most. Tate gets deleted on our shit too. Okay. Which is weird. Maybe you can't. Yeah. Full send podcast. Tate got deleted. But I know what you mean. Yeah. It's just your Trump one got taken down as well. Right. The first one. Yeah.

But we need to, I think we need in closing that we need to like, they should let his channel come back. I think eventually it's been long enough. And then to start, they should let him be in like, or they like, they don't let him be in Bradley Martin's content. Like it's fucked. Like they got to let him be on YouTube now. Like the culture is shifting now too.

So, yeah, we were responsible for like hundreds of thousands of people registering to vote, which was pretty crazy. Like after the election, like people were coming up to me on the street and like thanking me. Like I'd be at the gym and people like people like walking up to me being like, yo, thank you. Like, thank you for what you did. Like, it was kind of like weird, you know, I don't know.

Yeah. Uh,

I mean, if you're the commander-in-chief...

I see it. And I kind of saw it coming too. And like, I think that's what people don't get too, is like at the end of the day, these are all companies that just want to make money. Like whether it's YouTube or Facebook meta, right? Like, I don't, I feel like it's not really a personal vendetta they have against these people.

It's just like, they're sitting in a boardroom and they're trying to figure out how to make money. Right. So they're going to follow, they're going to follow the money. So now like, obviously Zuck sees what's happening with X and, He's smart too. And at the end of the day, it's a W for everyone. What was about to happen if Trump didn't win was fucking scary.

We were about to lose free speech. I think we would have lost it completely. I mean, it's hard to imagine, but thank God he won and the way that he won reflected where culturally we're at. But yeah, I think Zuck obviously... he probably sick of just getting chirped all the time too, at the same time too, right? Like Elon Musk gets to be the man and gets all this praise.

And like, everyone's always ripping on Zuck and Zuck's probably just like, fuck, I want to be the man too, like Elon. But I think it was very smart. I mean, there's no better person again to bring on than Dana. I think that was, that's so smart. Cause Dana's always going to be for the people. Um, he loves social media too.

Like he gets a kick out of just like seeing, like, he's always showing us numbers and stuff too. Like we're sending like our biggest reels that do well and shit. So he understands social media and then, yeah, he's, he's for the people. He's always going to be for, uh, for free speech, like UFC is for free speech. So yeah, I think Zuck just, uh, He had no choice.

Yeah.

I know. I think it was just that. I think he just wanted to like, I think he just wants to be kind of cool, right? Boys club. Yeah. He wants to join the boys club. We'll see. We'll let him in. Right.

I just feel so normal. And we're just kind of doing what our heart felt like. We were obviously big Trump supporters. Yeah. So yeah, that whole election was crazy. And then Dana White shouted us out in that, um, the post election speech. Like we were the first ones to get shouted out. So that whole thing was just surreal. And I'm from Canada. So like, I'm not even, I can't even vote.

Yes, yes. That older guy that's like, I think he's like the CEO or something.

But yeah, YouTube, that's interesting.

you gotta you gotta take some blame for sure and yeah i think all canadians agree it's just it's just a totally different place how so i think canada just lost its sense of identity a little bit you know i think being a little too politically correct you know whether it's not letting people say merry christmas or we have a poppy that people wear every november remembrance day which is supposed to like support the fallen troops

There's no purity. They're following the money. They have no choice. I mean, the election was like a reflection of where society's at. Like, they have to be idiots not to like see like, holy shit, we got to adjust. But at the end of the day... It's a W for society.

What? What do you mean they're enabling it?

So that's a new thing they're doing, they just said?

I mean, yeah, if you're Zuck, you got to be like, he's obviously not an idiot, but you got to be a complete tool to not see where, like he has no choice. Like it's pretty obvious, right? I mean, and they're going to have to make all those adjustments. I mean, yeah, I don't know why people don't see it. People are just going to follow the money always, right?

I mean, I really fucking like enjoy what we do, honestly. Like I really do. And like I'll go through waves of maybe there's a bad video or there's a bad moment on social media. But for the most part, like I really fucking love this shit. Like I started doing this for fun, just making videos, uploading them, not making any money. And I was making like.

I can't even vote. So like to me, for me to get shout out, shouted out in the post election speech. Yeah. My parents are like, what the fuck? Everyone's just like, this is a fucking simulation.

all types of videos like I wanted to be a director when I was younger so I was making like short films that were serious I was making skits and then we were doing pranks I just loved creating like thinking of something filming it I would edit it myself post it and then you get that It's like entertaining. You know, you get that reaction back from people saying they loved it.

It's like a good feeling. So I don't think I've lost that whatsoever. You know, even our like our latest milk video was telling you like the tribe video we did. It was just fun. Like the whole process from thinking of the idea to planning it, like getting on the call with Forrest and talking about doing it.

To traveling there to filming it and then we get home sitting with the editors editing it and you know we're choosing the music we're choosing the font we're choosing just the storyline and then posting it and getting all that great feedback watching the numbers go crazy the entire process.

is fun and i don't i mean i don't know what else i would be i would be doing i don't want to go back and work at the golf course um that's one thing i do really love it and then yeah i mean Obviously want to be like financially free. I think, you know, I don't, I don't know if we can do milk forever.

Maybe we can, like, maybe it's like we have kids and we're still doing like dad's trips or some shit and we're bringing the babies and stuff.

There you go. There you go. Oh yeah. We're going to definitely keep going. But yeah, I mean, it would be with happy dad. Our ultimate goal is to build it into a billion dollar business. And yeah, so there's two sides to it. There's just the content and then happy dad is our main.

I love I think that's one thing that like my partner like John tells me too is like I can just switch from like a creative side to like a business side like like that like with a light switch you know. So I love like being completely creative and like making a video. And then I also love getting strategic and like helping build a business.

Well, that's what we saw this election, right? I guess, yeah, all the old news networks now are fascinated. And I had to do a bunch of interviews after that election too, and they're all fascinated with... How did the internet win this election? Why are young people so obsessed with the internet? Why do they watch podcasts? These people are old. They have no fucking clue what you and I are doing.

So it's almost like I have two hats that I get to wear and I'm constantly switching them, which I think fucks with my mind a little bit too. And then sometimes I got to babysit all these fuckers too. Like, I don't know if you know, Stiney, all like all these guys are fucked. I'm fucked too. But so there's a few different hats that I have to wear.

Yeah. Of course. It's also like, just don't make me be a buzzkill. I don't want to fucking have to rip you a new one. I don't want to have to fucking rip you a new one. The reason you're stepping in to do it is because you haven't done the thing that I asked you to do. But some people just don't learn unless you fucking rip them a new asshole. So it's like...

But it does frustrate me and it gets annoying. So now some things I just kind of let go. I'm kind of only focused on what affects Nelk. I've learned I also can't help everybody. I can tell you something once. I could tell you something twice. If you're going to keep doing it, that's going to be up to you. You know what I'm saying?

There's not enough time in my day to babysit everyone's personal lives. I care about people that are close to me a lot too. I try to help people as much as I can, but yeah, it gets, there's only so much time in a day at the end of the day, people are going to do what they kind of want to do.

They really don't. For us, it makes so much sense. Trump goes on Joe Rogan. Obviously, that's going to be big. But for them, they're like, why was that Joe Rogan thing so big? They're that stupid.

A hundred percent. It comes with the territory. I would never complain about it. It just, yeah, I've, that's something kind of that I've had to deal with more recently as our business has grown as like you said, yeah, the, the stakes are higher now there's more responsibility. So back then when we're just fucking around and we were, you know, now it's the stakes are higher.

So there's a lot more on the line. There's a lot more on the line.

I don't want to sound like a bitch or like complaining. Cause like they're like what I do. I'm so fucking grateful for like my life and my job and stuff. But I mean, if there's one thing that just burns me out, maybe it's just traveling like a lot all the time. The lack of a, the lack of a routine and like structure that, that can burn me out. Like if we're traveling all the time, um,

Back when we were probably, like, drinking a lot and partying, that was starting to burn me out a lot. Starting to lose it a little bit, maybe, but... How so? Not, like, lose it, but just... I mean, as you get older, bro, too, we were talking about it, too. Like, bro, I obviously just can't fucking... I can't drink like I used to.

Like, obviously, when I'm 21, I didn't even know what a hangover was. I'm 30 now, so I get hung like a fucking... It feels like I got hit by a bus, you know? So... I think it's just... It's that, too. So when we're part... If we're, like, traveling and drinking a lot, too, that can burn me out. I love... I mean, I love having a routine, too. Like, when I'm in Miami and I'm just on my shit, like...

Bro, I feel like we all knew it was going to happen. But yeah, just to see it finally go down, it's just, it's refreshing. I mean, like you guys know, I grew up in Canada. I moved to the States about, 10 years ago when I was around 20. I'm 30 now. And it's just like the last 10 years, what's happened has just been devastating, honestly.

Just exactly what we did this morning, dialed, working out. That feels really, really good to me now. The older I get, I think the simple things just become more and more important. And just taking care of yourself, keeping your mind right. So if there's one thing, it's just that. It's just the traveling sometimes burns you out.

Yeah, maybe you just get low or you kind of question like, oh, do I want to do this? Like, what's the point of this anymore? You know, I've gone through phases like that where it's just like, yeah, you're just like, why do I need to do this? You know, what if...

But I think those are just, like, little funks that everybody has, and you kind of just gotta break out of them, and you gotta kind of, like, look at stuff from, like, an outside perspective, too. Yeah, I think... I'm so grateful to have this life and like everything I've built.

So if you think about other people's lives or what they have or what their problems are compared to yours, I find that's like a great thing I do sometimes just whenever you're complaining about something, like really take a look at what you're fucking complaining about compared to other people's problems.

So anytime I find myself in a funk, I'll kind of just think of that and be like, yo, this is my problem compared to like,

someone else's problem like look around me look what i've got not even material wise like i have fucking a great family i have fucking great friends i have a great life like some people don't have that so all the stuff you kind of take for granted sometimes not everyone has how much do you rely on the sort of group around you do you think you could do everything you couldn't do this on your own

Nah, the group we have right now is like, fucking really, really solid. Like, obviously, I have Gabe, who's like, my assistant, like, he's the best, like, we've become best friends, too. And he's like, there's no one better than him in anything.

yeah I mean Ozgod who edits all our videos Sean Haney Brett Judd there's just like a whole crew of like our whole team is just like so good and I think that's what's as we get bigger and bigger, that's what's really important. And it's like having this team, it's never a one man army for sure. And yeah, now like the crew we have, it's like, we're all great friends.