Kyle Carberry

It was almost as if he could just fall bass-ackwards into something. Great. You know? Sounds like less of a compliment now. That's good. I think you have, Kenan had good instincts as well, but it was like everything he touched turned to gold. It was a Midas touch. So he couldn't almost go the wrong way. His VR company, just to set the stage a little bit, eventually sold to Hooli for billions.

It was almost as if he could just fall bass-ackwards into something. Great. You know? Sounds like less of a compliment now. That's good. I think you have, Kenan had good instincts as well, but it was like everything he touched turned to gold. It was a Midas touch. So he couldn't almost go the wrong way. His VR company, just to set the stage a little bit, eventually sold to Hooli for billions.

Yes. Oh, I remember that. It did make phones catch on fire.

Yes. Oh, I remember that. It did make phones catch on fire.

And lots of bad things happened. Sorry to plot kill for certain folks, but whatever. Spoiler alert. If you haven't watched by now, man, you got problems.

And lots of bad things happened. Sorry to plot kill for certain folks, but whatever. Spoiler alert. If you haven't watched by now, man, you got problems.

Catch up. So you kind of remind me of Keenan Felspar.

Catch up. So you kind of remind me of Keenan Felspar.

I didn't call you Ehrlich Bachman. Exactly, yeah, yeah. I could have called you Ehrlich.

I didn't call you Ehrlich Bachman. Exactly, yeah, yeah. I could have called you Ehrlich.

I wonder if it could be bigger than this conservative dream.

I wonder if it could be bigger than this conservative dream.

I guess I don't mean bigger company-wise, like people-wise, but trajectory and target in terms of ability to capture the market. I don't know if you have to be necessarily bigger people-wise to be bigger from a revenue target or market capture perspective.

I guess I don't mean bigger company-wise, like people-wise, but trajectory and target in terms of ability to capture the market. I don't know if you have to be necessarily bigger people-wise to be bigger from a revenue target or market capture perspective.

I say don't. Don't exit.

I say don't. Don't exit.

Andrew Wilkinson's very smart. What's the tiny model? So Andrew Wilkinson was one of the co-founders, I believe, of MetaLab. He and his brother, I believe, were doing this. They were very successful with being a great design company and a services company.

Andrew Wilkinson's very smart. What's the tiny model? So Andrew Wilkinson was one of the co-founders, I believe, of MetaLab. He and his brother, I believe, were doing this. They were very successful with being a great design company and a services company.

They're famously known for their work on Slack, which I think Slack was so good, not just because it was a good idea, but also because of their tremendous work on that. And just like you, John, Andrew began to read and study Warren Buffett and was like, well, he took the same approach with acquiring companies, not having to think too deeply, going through all this crazy due diligence.

They're famously known for their work on Slack, which I think Slack was so good, not just because it was a good idea, but also because of their tremendous work on that. And just like you, John, Andrew began to read and study Warren Buffett and was like, well, he took the same approach with acquiring companies, not having to think too deeply, going through all this crazy due diligence.