Kyle Carberry

Very cool. Thank you, Kyle. Well, friends, it might be time to consider a cloud development environment, a CDE. And open source is awesome. And Coder is fully open source. You can go to Coder.com right now, install Coder open source, start a premium trial, or get a demo. For me, my first step, I installed it on my Proxmox box and played with it. It was so cool. I loved it. Again, Coder.com.

Very cool. Thank you, Kyle. Well, friends, it might be time to consider a cloud development environment, a CDE. And open source is awesome. And Coder is fully open source. You can go to Coder.com right now, install Coder open source, start a premium trial, or get a demo. For me, my first step, I installed it on my Proxmox box and played with it. It was so cool. I loved it. Again, Coder.com.

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So I think multiples are always challenging, you know, cause it's like you could sit there and, and split hairs over multiples, you know, one, two, three. And then especially when somebody built this thing and it's their labor of love and it's been this thing they care for and they got friends on the inside. It's like, well now you're, Now you're not just offending me on my multiple.

So I think multiples are always challenging, you know, cause it's like you could sit there and, and split hairs over multiples, you know, one, two, three. And then especially when somebody built this thing and it's their labor of love and it's been this thing they care for and they got friends on the inside. It's like, well now you're, Now you're not just offending me on my multiple.

Now you're offending me on my work. You're not valuing what I've done. That's good that you were able to come to terms fairly quickly, at least based on this text thread that you briefly shared on the Acquiring Fireside blog post. It was a pretty quick deal.

Now you're offending me on my work. You're not valuing what I've done. That's good that you were able to come to terms fairly quickly, at least based on this text thread that you briefly shared on the Acquiring Fireside blog post. It was a pretty quick deal.

Well, yeah, it was a pretty quick deal.

Well, yeah, it was a pretty quick deal.

Yeah. Can't do that.

Yeah. Can't do that.

You mentioned this was financed. Yes. And that means that you're not technically using your own money or using future money. Now, you've also based the payoff on cash flow. So you've weighed the risk. Is this one of the biggest risks financially you've taken in a software business?

You mentioned this was financed. Yes. And that means that you're not technically using your own money or using future money. Now, you've also based the payoff on cash flow. So you've weighed the risk. Is this one of the biggest risks financially you've taken in a software business?

Because it seems like everything else you've, not homegrown, but bootstrapped, and it's been sort of a safe growth and safe entrance. Even if it's been a failure or not great or whatever the outcome, it seems kind of like your biggest risk.

Because it seems like everything else you've, not homegrown, but bootstrapped, and it's been sort of a safe growth and safe entrance. Even if it's been a failure or not great or whatever the outcome, it seems kind of like your biggest risk.

That's okay. I think so. I mean, I think it seems like a big bet, mainly because while you know Rails and you know SaaS applications, I think that hosting podcasts, there are some preeminent, worthy opponents out there. And while you don't have a ton of churn, you mentioned to Jared earlier that there is negative growth, so there is some churn. You now have to do something to grow this thing.

That's okay. I think so. I mean, I think it seems like a big bet, mainly because while you know Rails and you know SaaS applications, I think that hosting podcasts, there are some preeminent, worthy opponents out there. And while you don't have a ton of churn, you mentioned to Jared earlier that there is negative growth, so there is some churn. You now have to do something to grow this thing.

I just wonder how impossible it is for you to, with your outlook on even focus, define, and maybe not in 2024, but maybe 2025, you start to define some of these feature sets. that you can utilize and deploy to attract. I'm hearing your story. We've talked a lot about business and financials and semantics really of the choice, not so much what you're actually doing or what you'll do with it.

I just wonder how impossible it is for you to, with your outlook on even focus, define, and maybe not in 2024, but maybe 2025, you start to define some of these feature sets. that you can utilize and deploy to attract. I'm hearing your story. We've talked a lot about business and financials and semantics really of the choice, not so much what you're actually doing or what you'll do with it.