Kyle Carberry

Dan Benjamin. There you go.

Dan Benjamin. There you go.

Well, once you say it once, you can just say Dan now and Garrett. But the first time, please say a full name just so everybody's tracking.

Well, once you say it once, you can just say Dan now and Garrett. But the first time, please say a full name just so everybody's tracking.

Games. Simple games like that are kind of cool, honestly. And the with friends phrase is kind of cool. It's great, yeah. Courage with friends. It is cool, yeah. Chats with friends.

Games. Simple games like that are kind of cool, honestly. And the with friends phrase is kind of cool. It's great, yeah. Courage with friends. It is cool, yeah. Chats with friends.

Well, it's mostly the saturation in the podcast space that I think I was concerned about because we are in that space. And there's been a lot of consolidation, and there's also been – like Chartable just shut down. It's in the process of shutting down. Like it was acquired by Spotify. They're keeping the necessary features inside of the core. I think it's – is it Anchor, Jared? Megaphone?

Well, it's mostly the saturation in the podcast space that I think I was concerned about because we are in that space. And there's been a lot of consolidation, and there's also been – like Chartable just shut down. It's in the process of shutting down. Like it was acquired by Spotify. They're keeping the necessary features inside of the core. I think it's – is it Anchor, Jared? Megaphone?

Right. And then you got to compete with free. You know, this is a behemoth. They're going to put things out for free. So you got to compete with free. Right. And so I think my concern was really around just the saturation and the competing with free because that's hard. Right. And, you know, what we talked about. Can I share some of the things you talked about? Yeah. You cool with that?

Right. And then you got to compete with free. You know, this is a behemoth. They're going to put things out for free. So you got to compete with free. Right. And so I think my concern was really around just the saturation and the competing with free because that's hard. Right. And, you know, what we talked about. Can I share some of the things you talked about? Yeah. You cool with that?

We were just talking about the churn or lack of churn with customers and how there was not churn going away. They were staying there. There was steady income over a period of time that made sense to give you at least enough foundation to say this is a safe bet. And zooming back out a bit to maybe eight minutes ago, you were saying, could we do this?

We were just talking about the churn or lack of churn with customers and how there was not churn going away. They were staying there. There was steady income over a period of time that made sense to give you at least enough foundation to say this is a safe bet. And zooming back out a bit to maybe eight minutes ago, you were saying, could we do this?

And you have a lot of friends who say, yeah, you probably could do this. I also agree. I think you could probably do this. We're betting hard on podcasting, obviously. We have gone the route of...

And you have a lot of friends who say, yeah, you probably could do this. I also agree. I think you could probably do this. We're betting hard on podcasting, obviously. We have gone the route of...

build it versus buy it in our case but because that's our business model in terms of sponsors partners just the way we went you know infrastructure partners are core to our business model really and i think we're a unique scenario in the podcasting world in the fact that we podcast around software development software engineering business growth things like that and we also benefit from the various partners we can work with and attract because they have awesome platforms

build it versus buy it in our case but because that's our business model in terms of sponsors partners just the way we went you know infrastructure partners are core to our business model really and i think we're a unique scenario in the podcasting world in the fact that we podcast around software development software engineering business growth things like that and we also benefit from the various partners we can work with and attract because they have awesome platforms

And I couldn't imagine us doing what we do hosted somewhere else. We just would not have the same clout, I would say, in those cases where we can actually eat the dog food or drink the champagne and share the sentiment of the taste of the grapes.

And I couldn't imagine us doing what we do hosted somewhere else. We just would not have the same clout, I would say, in those cases where we can actually eat the dog food or drink the champagne and share the sentiment of the taste of the grapes.

And it's Rails. So, I mean, how hard could it be, right? It's Rails. So, you know that pretty well. Even yourself, you can take Garrett's opinion, you know, at its face value, but you can also dig in one layer. And you've worked with Garrett for many years. So, he's not going to wrong you.

And it's Rails. So, I mean, how hard could it be, right? It's Rails. So, you know that pretty well. Even yourself, you can take Garrett's opinion, you know, at its face value, but you can also dig in one layer. And you've worked with Garrett for many years. So, he's not going to wrong you.