Kyle Brandt
Appearances
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
It's like the happiest he's ever been in his life. And I mean, I mean like in all different ways.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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A little bit. Yeah. It's funny to think about it. Like, can you even remember the last Bills loss? It's been so long before the Rams game.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
They lost to the Texans that night. And the take was like, wow, Diggs got over on the Bills. And there was this viral moment of Diggs, like, side-eyeing him. And we haven't heard from Diggs since he got hurt. And Allen's taken over the world. But loves his offensive coordinator. Never more comfortable. Loves the guys in the room. And I don't think this is irrelevant. Like...
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
he's engaged to a movie star and a pop star and his personal life is out of control, like over the hill, over the moon, amazing. And he has a good run game and a good offensive line. Like, what do you want as a quarterback? My line's awesome. My running backs are awesome. I have like a really cool girl that I'm with and like my receivers are cool guys.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
And I know they're not Calvin Johnson, but like they make plays for me. I think he's so happy and so confident. I think it's great.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
I think he did. Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
In a regular year, Lamar, there's Lamar fatigue. He's already got it a couple of times. Yeah. And I, listen, I was, I want Saquon to win a batter. Just be cool. he would have to have the perfect campaign. Like, he'd have to break the Dixon record. He'd have to have the touchdown, everything. Allen just took it away. I'm not sure it can be Saquon. Oh, really?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
But I think as the Allen thing, especially as it pertains to Mahom, my concern is that that Rams game 20 years from now when, like, you tell your kids, your grandkids about Josh Allen, like, that's the Josh Allen experience. He's unbelievably cool superhero action star and the Bills lose.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
What are you doing? Like, is he... I just worry that he's... like Dominique Wilkins or something. Like, it's just so awesome. Incredible talent. What did it amount to? He's even said it. He's like, he said it. I'm sick of winning t-shirts. He has a whole stack of t-shirts that are like division champ t-shirts. And he's like, I want to get them out of my closet. I don't want these anymore.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
That's what he's known for at this point. Because if they lose in the playoffs, if they lose in the playoff this year to the Chiefs, What do you think if you're a Bills fan? Like this Chiefs team sucks. We can't even beat this one.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
It's a big playoff.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Marlon Jackson interception sealed it. And it was like, holy shit, they beat Brady. And this is my test for the Chiefs right now. So we're picking away at all of them, and they barely win, and all their numbers are terrible, and the offense looks legitimately bad except for one drive every game. Let's say they get the one seed. They get the bye.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
The division round, you're watching on your couch, and the Chiefs lose to Pittsburgh or Baltimore or Houston or somebody like that. Are you surprised? Because I'm shocked. I'll fall off my chair if they lose the division round, even as bad as they've been. That's my respect for them. I agree completely.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Yeah, the Raiders killed them on Christmas. Yes, it was like a super weird year.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yes.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Without their best running back.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah, I mean, the Chargers are built like Michigan.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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No, definitely. I think the Chargers are going to win a playoff game. I like them still. I'm not jumping ship on the Chargers.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Without the best receiver, without the best running back, they play great defense.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Yeah. And I don't like that match. I don't like the Chargers. But the distinction, I think, with the Chiefs' weapons, it's like, I think there's having players that are just kind of average players But then there's having players who are just kind of average the way they're playing who are made guys. Like Jandre Hopkins and Kelsey, even Juju.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Those are guys who have been around, who've been in playoff games. Those are the guys who are like, oh, shit, we turned on the division run. Kelsey had nine catches and two touchdowns. They've done it. It's not average players who just suck and have never done it. These guys are all a friend of ours. You know what I mean? They can turn it on.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Yeah, okay.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
You get it. Like you have this big play. Yeah, big defensive play. And then Jesus Christ, Nakua and Cooper were just doing anything they wanted.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
They thought that, okay, so Matt Milano's back now. He was the heart and soul of their defense. He's back there going to stop it. And Terrell Bernard's amazing in the middle. But they did this Blake Corum thing that we haven't seen a lot of them this year. And then, obviously, Kyron. I have a little bit of a spicy take on the Bills-Rams thing is, I actually think that loss was good for the Bills.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
And I'll tell you why. Everybody was just on their nuts across the whole country because they did a lateral play and they won in the snow and they're the best team ever. They go across the country, they get their ass whipped a little bit. Now they play the Lions, which is one of the biggest games of the regular season. I think they need to have their shit humbled a little bit. Just a little bit.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
They were such a darling for about... three or four days, and then they weren't that good. And I think that get that loss out of the way now maybe and have a little bit of a wake-up call. I actually was not shocked that they lost that game because McVay is amazing. And when Cup and Nakua are out there for the Rams this year, the Rams are 6-2. Like, they're a very, very good team.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
And their defense is, like, super young, super doesn't give a crap. I'll hit Josh Allen late, talk shit to him, don't care.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
like the Rams are if I had to pick a team that holy shit a team that's in the Super Bowl I'd pick the Rams as like the holy shit team your holy shit team my holy shit team is the Rams like that is a dark horse Cinderella all that like they have the quarterback I think they have the best coach in football and they have this crazy young defense who doesn't know they're not supposed to be that good yet they're my holy shit Super Bowl team I think the holy shit team has to be AFC
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
But I think... Like the Chargers would be a holy shit.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
I don't even know if they expected this.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
I really do think it was, all right, this will be a year and we'll lose in the wild card or whatever. But just Allen's been that good and defense has been that good. Can I give you like a surprise disgruntled team right now? I'm kind of with you, like I have a couple friends And they're Philly guys. And they're like beside themselves right now. They hate this team.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They're like, we're going to lose. We're going to go one and done. They're panicking.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
The Eagles have won nine in a row. And they're like, nope. Hurts doesn't have it. Their kicker keeps missing. That freaks people out. He can't make one from 50 plus. He hasn't made one all year. After this game, this last game, the problem is, all right, they barely beat the Panthers. And people have to update their expectations of the Panthers. The Panthers aren't the Panthers of September.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They're actually kind of good.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Like they almost beat the Chiefs.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And so Eagles fans are like, we suck. First of all, the Panthers are pretty good. But then right after the game, A.J. Brown, after a win, the ninth in a row, they're like, A.J., what do you think you need to work on? He's like, passing. You got to get better at passing. Jesus, AJ, you won nine in a row. Like there's some issues with Hurts.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
And I think there's Eagles fans still don't totally believe in him. Just my friends. I think he's a really good player, but there's my friends.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
So coach and quarterback. And also I think AJ Brown is like, I'm tired of the Saquon shit. Like, we passed the ball the least in the whole team. They're ranked last in the league in pass attempts. They run it. They have an MVP running back. I don't know if he's liking that either. This reminds me of, I was talking to an MVP. There's nine in a row they've won, and they're like, they're pissed.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
So A.J. Brown's like, enough with the backwards hurdle. We get it. Enough with the sequence shit. Enough with the tush push.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
I don't know.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Jefferson always seems pretty gruntled. Even when he wasn't putting up numbers. Yeah, he seemed happy for Addison. Huge contract. Huge. Plays indoors. Like, everybody loves him. I think Jefferson's gruntled.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
It's nuts. So my background in Sam Darnold is, okay, was supposed to be the number one overall pick, fell a little bit, Baker rises up and steal it. From that point, every single coach slash guru, all the McVeighs and Shanahan's and like Jordan Palmer types, they all swear that Sam's the man. Oh, Darnold's incredible. Darnold's got it.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
And as a fan, you're like, he mostly sucks every time we see him. It just feels like when somebody keeps recommending this show, you got to watch this show. It's so good. It's so good. And you're like, it's not that good. They're like, watch another episode. I promise.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
The show is finally amazing. And all those coaches were like, he's amazing. And yet. They may just cut Bateman this year.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I don't know where he was. Top ten.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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But you loved him.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They were good early. Listen, same organization, Vikings, a few years back. They're in the NFC title game. Their quarterback is Case Keenum. Right. Killing it. Making miracles to Stephon Diggs. Like, oh my God, Keenum. Yeah. Moved on. Went to Cousins. It was the right move.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Also, he doesn't say shit. He's a model citizen. Great reputation.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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The take is very insulting to him. Here's the take. Okay. You have Jefferson and Addison and Aaron Jones and Hawkinson and KOC is your coach. of course you're succeeding. Right. It's the Brock Purdy. We can put somebody in there. It's the Brock Purdy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It's going to happen. And we've seen, Cousins won 11 and one. as a Vikings quarterback. And they won every, and they got to the plate and they lost to Daniel Jones. So that's part of the reason why everyone's like, I don't know, Darnold, I feel like we've seen this shit before.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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That's why you're saying no matter how much they win, you don't believe in them because we could look up and they lose in the wildcard round.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah. To your point, though, let's say the Vikings are like, we love Sam, but we have a very bright future for JJ. We want to be in bench. What is the line that the Vikings get to where they're like, well, we're in the Super Bowl. We can't get rid of Sam Darnold now. Do they have to win it? I think you have to get to the Super Bowl. Because already, Case Keenum was in the title game with them.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They've already been that a few years ago. I think if he gets to the Super Bowl, I guess you're coming back.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Those three teams in the North. They're 28-3 outside of the North. They beat everybody.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They're up there. I think they're all top five teams. Who knows? They're 28-3 when they're not playing each other. So they kick the shit out of everybody. I think the Lions' defense reputation is down right now because of what we just saw. I think they'll be better. I think they'll be back. I still think they're going to win the Super Bowl. I still think it's the Lions.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Lions over Pittsburgh, you think, maybe? Or Chiefs?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Where are you at with Russ? Isn't this weird for you to be saying that?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Have you done the Russ pop culture comp? Like what this is? because like I was doing it the other day with Peter. I think it's, it's, it's Travolta. And the comeback Seattle was all of the seventies and eighties. And he's a superstar. He's the coolest rockstar ever. Denver was look, who's talking. It's pathetic. And then like four and two, Mike Tomlin put them in and it was just Pulp Fiction.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And like, he's like the coolest guy ever now and can't miss. It's an amazing.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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You go, you go Lady Gaga. Yeah.
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That's big. That's the 4-2 Pittsburgh.
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I always would think that Tomlin wouldn't be here for the Russ theatrics that we used to see. Tomlin's good at that. He seems so affected.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah. And Fryermuth. They're really good. They're an amazing team. The Russ thing, you see comebacks. They suck. You never see when someone's a superstar... then sucks, and then is a superstar again. The only ones I can think of are Kurt Warner, who went St.
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And then the Giants, who was just weird, and then Arizona to the Super Bowl again. And then even a slightly less version of that, Carson Palmer was with the Bengals. He was with the Raiders, and I don't even remember that. And then he was with Arizona and was also in a title game. But the good shit and then good again is really hard to pull off.
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We also might get Pittsburgh Denver in the playoffs. That'd be pretty fun.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Coaches and quarterbacks. When we do playoff picks to start the season, about four years ago, I learned this. I always pick Pittsburgh no matter what. Picked them this year to make the playoffs. And everyone's like, you're an idiot. They have no quarterback. I'm like, I know, but just always pick Pittsburgh. They get in the playoffs, always. And I pick McVay now too every year, the Rams.
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That was another one.
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Who did I say? The Rams.
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Holy shit, this team is in the Super Bowl.
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I hate the Texans. No, they're not good. The Texans are definitely going to play a Saturday playoff game like they always do. And it'll be like one o'clock.
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The Caleb moment?
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Houston's just dog shit on this.
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Oh, another third and 10 in Houston. Great.
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Isn't it crazy we've talked to playoffs this long, we haven't even mentioned the Ravens? Well, because we know they're going to be there. I know, but what are they going to do when they get there? Like, I don't have them in the Super Bowl. Does anybody? Their stock's low now.
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Lamar media is weird.
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Dolphins fans are frosty, for sure.
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It's also one of the most unusual fantasy seasons in history because of what happened with McCaffrey. That was so strange.
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That's why you play fantasy because of that Allen game against the Rams.
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I think the Jets fans are a little in shock. Whereas the Giants fans are like, I don't know. Like when I run into people on the street and they're like, oh, you're on the football show. And I go, yeah. And the thing I always say to them, wherever I am, I'm like, oh, who's your team? Cowboys, Texans. The Giants fans always go... Like, they're so apologetic.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Oh, no. Our show that we do on NFL Network started in 2016. Every single year, the Jets and Giants have sucked. They've always sucked. The only one that didn't suck was the Giants team when they went on the boat with the Odell thing. Like, that's the only glimpse.
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That was a fever dream.
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But so I think the Giants fans are like, we know we're terrible and we're embarrassed. I think the Jets fans were like, they bought some lottery tickets and before they won it, they like put a down payment on a mansion and a boat and they're like, I'm going to win this shit. And then match one number on their lottery ticket.
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And I think, so I think they're like, their mental health is in question and they're in shock. It sucks.
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We're winning this year. We've got a great rotation.
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The one he keeps retweeting about. It was the day the Jets Niners were going to play. I love it. I just want to go on record. I think this will be a complete disaster. Everyone will be fired and Rodgers will retire. And he's probably going to be right. The Jets season. It might have been the last great tweet. It was a great tweet. We talked about that on our show.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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We even brought up Fennessey's tweet. But this season for the Jets is not like a D or a D. It is an F. It is as bad as it could go. Short of like a tragedy happened off the field.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Oh, just as a whole?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I think it's like a B-plus because we have just some really good teams. Like I mentioned, that thing in the NFC North is fun. That Bills-Rams game we just watched was amazing. that Lions game against the Packers was 34-31. Like we've got some Rembrandts. We've got some, like when you say, what was the game of the year? We have like eight or nine games of the year.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And I like that the quarterbacks aren't hurt.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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That's really what I care about. Allen's out there. Mahomes out there. Even Burrow on a losing team. You get to watch those guys. You don't have to turn on the Thursday nighter and it's Taylor Heineke versus Mitch Trubisky.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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We lost Aiden, but I heard it's not as bad as we thought.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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All you care about is you got a guy.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Well, I can't believe I did the B plus then without mentioning it. I mean, I think like they are huge. There's two massive blemishes on the season. The Jets, just complete disaster. And the Bears. I mean, the Bears are a massive disappointment from start to finish. If the Jets are an F, the Bears are a D plus.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
You're supposed to get the bump. The Saints got the bump with that guy. The clogger bumped you back. That Niners-Bears game was maybe the worst game of the year. I mean, it was an unbelievably terrible, pathetic game.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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You thought the Bears were going to win?
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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They were way worse than they were under Matt Eberflus. Think about that. They looked way worse at the game. Like they should have brought Iberflues back. They would have had a better performance.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah. The locker room was so excited about the new guy and they're going to be ready to play. They were so bad in that game.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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I'm glad you brought that up.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Because I have landed on this take, and I say it all, never hire an interim coach. I don't care what happens. The interim coach is, you get out of a miserable marriage. You're just so pissed, and the next girlfriend you meet, you fucking marry her. You don't take her to Cabo. You marry her.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Have her fling. Do it. Fine. She made me tune this out. It was incredible. Watch the Saints win a couple more games, and they'll be like, I don't know. Darren Rizzi gets them to compete. Don't hire Darren Rizzi. Do respect him.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Damn right. Changing out, 200, their car.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Yeah, I like pit boss coach. And now he's the special teams coach again. But no, don't ever hire the interim coach. You're marrying the fling after the marriage. It's terrible.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
OKC’s Revenge, NBA Cup Nitpicks, and NFL Season Fun Grades with David Jacoby, Kirk Goldsberry, Kyle Brandt, and Craig Horlbeck
Craig, have you had some takes on where Shador is going to go? I mean, he certainly feels like a Raider to me.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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It's a perfect fit. It's so Raiders-y. What if the Giants get the number one pick? Because the worst fit of all time is the Mara family and the Sanders family. Oh, my God.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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But what if they get the number one pick and he's the guy? Raiders feels perfect. The Giants might get it, though.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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And Bowers is sitting right there now. He already has a stud. And like, let's just have a carnival. Make Deion the coach. Why not? Have Shadruby the quarterback. It'd be great content.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
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Well, we had it in Pierce. Like that's the guy. We smoked cigars. I won a Super Bowl. But he just looks miserable now because they hired the interim coach. You don't do that. Right. Can't do it.