Kristen Schubert

Just the presumptive test.

Did you at least do a control test that showed the accuracy of the liability of the disorder that you used?

No.

Tell the jury about Blue Star. Blue Star is a chemiluminescent blood-free agent. And investigators use it to help identify areas of interest where the blood may not be visible to the naked eye. When it is applied, it reacts with the iron in your blood. And if there is a positive reaction, you will see that blue or light blue glow. And that has been documented with photographs.

And swabs of those areas are taken for further testing.

We have received training on the application list.

There are several false positives with blue star. Such as? There's weasel blood, ferret blood, which is an odd thing. There's some root vegetables, some cleaning products.

There's all kinds of different ones. Bleached and specific will give a false positive. However, the reaction looks different than that of blood.

Depending on how soon it's been applied, sometimes it can look more white. It's not quite as an intense, long-lasting glow that you might get from blood. Next, the prosecution walked Schubert through the details of blood spatter patterns and directionality, carefully analyzing the evidence.

I did. It was pulled up onto level ground by the time I had arrived on scene. But I did observe it and document and photograph it and collect evidence from that area.

Yes, I do. What is this item? This is the suitcase that was recovered at South Creek Rim.

Because we believed it had human remains inside of it, the medical examiner wanted it transported as is. So Hamilton County EMS came out through the scene. They loaded the suitcase onto the EMS truck and transported it to the medical examiner's office.

Yes, I did.

The medical examiner x-rayed the suitcase, and then once determining what was inside, I began documenting as we removed these remains.

This is a series of photos that shows The process, once we removed the victim from the suitcase while inside the bags, we placed them on the table. And this is a series of photos to show the process of taking each layer of the garbage bags off. And so it depicts that process.

the way the victim's remains in it, outside of the suitcase.

There were three.

This is looking into layer number two. We had just cut the outside layer of the bag here. And on the inside, you can see the second layer. 1813.

This is Dr. Coswell peeling back each layer of the garbage bags. And you can see the I think it was the shackle on the left side. Left shackle? On her left ankle.

Well, the handcuff had two locations. So there was one to attach to her hand and one to her ankle. The shackle only had one cinch and then a chain.

That's correct.

I, with booties, applied, yes.

If there was pools of blood or fresh blood, yes, it's potentially, yes, you would pick it up. What about dry blood? Usually, it doesn't just pick up and move around with dry blood.

I'm not saying it's impossible.

That is a swab from Katrina Pace.

And the two prints of quality to examine from that garbage bag around the body of Jasmine Pace were made by who?