Khlo e Kardashian
Appearances
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
I mean, it is interesting. Obviously, our heart's an organ, our brain's an organ. But you're right. There is not so much isolated attention on the brain as there is. Are your arteries clogged? Do you have heart issues, stomach problems? I feel like we focus on all these other things, but our brain seems to be neglected way more than the other organs. At least that's the way I perceive it.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
And I went and took your scan. It was so easy, if not almost enjoyable, because we had to do the online test and I had to beat the clock and I was very competitive. So I was like, no. And so for me, it was almost fun to do that part. But I still was like, I got to do better. And then I went back. I got scanned by you. What was that, 30 minutes? Yeah, it's not a long process to do whatsoever.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Painless, absolutely nothing like that. I played a video game that I would say with my eyes, right?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But you feel like you're playing a game. It's not scary.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
So I've had the pleasure and the privilege of meeting you through my sister, Kendall. And we actually went to your clinic in Encino. And I got to get my brain scanned by you. And it was such a privilege. And you were on our show, Kardashians. And... That was so significant. I feel like so many people from watching the show, I saw so much of the commentary.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
And if I heard properly, you can diagnose dementia or Alzheimer's 30 years prior to it actually happening. Like you can see it from the scans that you do. And so is there a way to prevent it if even if it's detectable on a scan?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
So many people had no idea that you could do scans on your brain. And I think people think you have to have an injury in order to do something like that or be, I don't know, a football player or be in a car accident along those lines. And it is... such a blessing i know you started this in the 70s and this is your life mission but
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But what a testament to the mother as well, because so many people don't know what to do. And I think that's why I'm so honored that, I mean, you're so incredible on social media. I need you to know that. I was talking to my mom about that. And it's so exciting that I get to have someone as knowledgeable and profound as you.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But there's so many takeaways that people can receive from an episode like this, because we understand what you're saying. And there. And that's the same thing on your social media. It's so incredible how, yes, I know, you know, all the big words and all the medical terms, but you're just, you're so relatable and there's so many takeaways that people can receive.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
And I think you make people feel safe with you and maybe because you've been doing it for so long, but you also give people so much hope where so many people don't just say, well,
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
I don't know, just what I really want to come across in this conversation is the importance of brain imaging. And I think I was listening to either your TED Talk or something else, and it really resonated with me that every other doctor, if they're a cardiologist, they're analyzing imaging of the heart.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
So for me, I think I drink like two or three times a year. I'm not a big drinker, but normally my birthday, I'll rage a little. But after you have kids, it's hard to do that. But I also realize the older I get, it could be age or just maybe my tolerance isn't. You just, there's no reward the next day. You realize, gosh, I just got thrown. I work out five days a week and certain things.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
and you just realize okay this really doesn't feel good this is horrible but trust me i think i've done a lot of damage in my 20s is that damage that was done in my 20s able to be reversed or for anyone listening if they're like okay i'm not at that place that i'm going to take any sort of physical like my health journey isn't my first priority are there things at home
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
that people can do to improve their brain function? Or by just cutting out these things in life, does your brain sort of regenerate itself on its own?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Say it louder because I do not want my kids to get tattoos.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But I have one. But, you know, I've done a lot of stupid things.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Mine is my dad's handwriting and he passed away. So at least it's not like a. If I got one, it would be.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
If they're an ear, nose, and throat doctor, they're looking at imaging for ear, nose, and throat or checking down your throat visually. And You're the only type of doctor where they weren't doing brain scans. And you were like, well, how does that make sense? Why am I advising you or prescribing you medication, but I don't really know what part of the brain is hurting?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
I didn't realize it was written that long ago. I assumed they would be updating it.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Right. Four, speaking of addicts, are you able, when you scan someone's brain, is there... neurons that are going off if someone has an addictive personality.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
And that, I don't know why I didn't realize that before until you said that.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Did I? Oh my gosh, I felt like I fumbled that one.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
You're against drinking in its entirety, correct?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
I read about that in my notes, I think. Yeah.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
I'm gonna make my kids play that game.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But is it like therapy that, you know, sometimes, I don't know if you've done therapy, but sometimes you will do therapy and you talk about- I've done therapy for a long time. And you know sometimes- That's what I do. You'll do, like you'll talk about your traumas and then you're more upset about everything.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Are any of them ever opposed to being scanned?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
What I love, something you said, and I didn't think of it like this, is that your brain is one thing and your mind is another thing. And I don't think a lot of people consider those to be two different entities, but they are. Can you talk about that a little bit?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
No. Something I did last night, which is something that you do is, well, I pray every night with my kids and then I do my own adult prayers for me. That's a non-negotiable every single night. But something that I implemented last night, and it's because of you, was the recounting the micro-happies. I don't know what you call it, but the good things that happened to me that day.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But from the smallest of the small. And I had a great day yesterday, but I think because I was recounting the littlest thing, I was like, no, I loved just getting my coffee first because in the morning I wake up and I wake up at five at the latest and I'll have my alone time and I do my Bible verse and then I sit by myself and have my coffee and reflect on that. And then I start my day.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
I like to set the tone for my day. But I don't think I realized how happy that makes me until I did what you suggested, which is just recount your day and what are the little things that make you happy? And it was such a beautiful lesson. And I was smiling while I was talking, recounting my day.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
And I just wanted to say thank you for that because it's such a minor thing, but it's the biggest thing. It's so simple, right? It's so simple, but it was huge.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Oh my gosh. You are a vessel of knowledge and insight. And I'm just so grateful that you came and shared all this with me and my viewers and listeners. And I'm not kidding. I am going on spring break with my kids this weekend. But when I come back, I think I'm going to make my first stop to come and see you and do another scan.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
But yes, I just wanted to say thank you. This was fascinating. And I will definitely see you in a few weeks when I'm back.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
So many things I admire about you, but specifically, I think the empathy you have for the position that you're in. I think you know what responsibility you hold for people, but to say that, and I'm paraphrasing, so excuse me, that you've thrown um, so many darts at the dark diagnosing people. And it's some of them, you might've hurt some of your patients by misdiagnosing medications to them.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
And I don't know if that many doctors respectfully, but would admit something like that. And I think that's such a beautiful thing to say and how you don't believe in a one size fits all for a medication or an ailment and that you're looking at the brain and You can have ADHD, for example, and I've seen some of your scans, but they could be in different parts of the brain, correct?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Now I feel like it's more, I don't want to say trendy, but it's more common probably to get brain scans. But why do you think in the 70s, 80s, 90s, why were you such an advocate but others were not?
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Oh, I love to hear that. And I apologize. I said the 70s, but that's when you started, when you went.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
Welcome to Chloe in Wonderland. This is the podcast for real and raw conversations from the stories you haven't heard to the curiosities that we all share. Dr. Daniel Amen, world-renowned psychiatrist, brain expert, and number one New York Times bestselling author is joining me today, and we are diving deep.
Khloé in Wonder Land
Let's Talk Brain Health ft. Dr. Daniel Amen
He's scanned over 200,000 brains, worked with the biggest names in Hollywood and sports, and he's completely changed how we think about brain health. We're getting into it all. Parenting, relationships, and yes, he's seen the inside of my brain. What did he find? What does it mean? And how can you rewire your brain to change your life?