Kenneth McKendrick

Like it had asbestos and they all tied it up.

And I said, there's some powder on the floor.

And I said, I ate a potato chip off the floor in this class.

And they were like, yeah, you're not going to want to do that.

So with disgust, we want objects to be removed.

Shame is really difficult.

Shame is when we want ourselves to disappear.

It hurts because it is part of who you are, right?

Like it's a self-condemnation.

And this is why I think there's a bit of a difference between guilt and shame.

And I know that guilt gets a lot of press, but I've always thought that guilt has a little bit of pride in it.

Shame is just really, really, really painful.

And these are great emotions to focus on because they are so deeply aversive, right?

And so anything that might cause us shame or that disgusts us, those are prime candidates for us targeting those things to be evil.

So if a professor says, you know, you can do better on your exam, I think if someone experiences shame, they may then say, well, that professor is causing me so much pain.

So they're the evil one.

Yeah.

Or if something is disgusting, we just say it's disgusting.

It's evil.

Yeah.