Kaya Callas
👤 PersonPodcast Appearances
Those conditions that they have presented, it shows that they don't really want peace, actually, because they are presenting as conditions all their ultimate goals that they want to achieve from the war.
We need to continue with the lifting of sanctions because, you know, if there is hope for the people, then there is also less chaos. And for the hope for the people, you need also the services to be provided, for example, banking services. So we're definitely going to discuss this, but right now we are moving ahead with lifting of the sanctions.
It is clear that any deal behind our backs will not work. Any agreement will need also Ukraine and Europe being part of it. And this is clear that appeasement also always fails. We shouldn't take anything off the table before the negotiations have even started because it plays to Russia's court and it is what they want.
Why are we giving them everything that they want even before the negotiations have been started? It's appeasement. It has never worked.
European Union was formed so that there wouldn't be any wars in Europe anymore. And we have been succeeding with the members of European Union that we don't have wars between ourselves. But the United States has always been our ally and friend. So I don't know where this talk comes from.
What the Americans are explaining is that when you have economic ties with the country, then it's also in your interest to work for the security of this country. You know, it's clear that Russia is the aggressor and Ukraine is the victim. So it's clear that we need to have very, very concrete security guarantees for Ukraine. And the strongest security guarantee that there is, is a NATO membership.
Well, it's clear that we need to really explain how important this is also to America. I mean, if we don't get Russia right, we don't get China right either. And it's clear that Iran, Russia, North Korea and more covertly China are working together to establish a new world order where might makes right. And that is dangerous to everybody, including the United States.
So that's why it's not only Ukraine's sovereignty and territorial integrity that is at stake, but it's a much, much broader fight between the autocracies and the democracies of the world.