Kathryn Gordon
Appearances
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
To hear that you're able to impact people with these principles. And one of the reasons I think that the book resonated so well is not only were you so vulnerable in sharing these difficult moments for you, but John also was to see both of you so incredibly raw. It was shocking for me at first when I was reading it.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
I've never read a book written the way that you wrote it. However, it's incredibly engaging because I can't wait to hear what the other one had to say in response to that event. Because To your point, of course, we're always going to see things differently.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Oh my gosh. Right back at you. I'm so excited. So, all right. I want to jump right into this guys. I have never talked about this on the podcast before. So this is going to be straight out of my comfort zone. That's why I needed Catherine to be here with me. So I very rarely talk about my personal life.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And there's going to be different sides to what was happening when he was on the road versus when you were at home or it impacts people differently. So it was always so interesting and eye-opening and reflective for my own self to think about my own relationships in life and that there is always another perspective.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And it can always at different times be a different person that's stepping in to maybe be the leader in that relationship or take the chance or be really vulnerable, which is what I saw a lot of in the book too.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
I very rarely am excited about my personal life because frankly, I don't meet a lot of great guys. However, I I was set up by an incredible person on a blind date and I was more nervous and caring about this date than ever that I ever remember in my life. And Catherine was holding my hand through the whole process and helping me get so ready.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
You brought up earlier that our children are seeing us model these relationships. So for everyone listening right now, if you do have kids, gosh, take the time to read this book. Take the time to apply these principles to your life and take a moment to think, are you leading a life and relationship that you want to pass and have your kids emulate? Because
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
I don't think we think about that all the time when we're in the grind and running through the day and getting stressed out and dropping the ball on things. If you take a moment to really ask yourself that question, is the relationship you're living in right now one that you want your children to emulate? I think that that can be really powerful.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
There's a lot in our society and culture these days of just walk away from people. If there's a disagreement, we'll just leave it. There's other people, other partners out there. But to your point and the importance of communication in this book and teaching people how to treat you, it's about sitting down and having the difficult discussions so that you can work through them.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And Catherine, the difference that you made for me and helped setting me up for success and that date up for success was something so powerful. I wanted to share it with my listeners.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Well, there's some of those breakthrough moments. One that really hit a chord with me was when Things were not great at all with you and John at this point in your marriage. John was on a flight.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
He starts speaking to an older gentleman who shares with him this idea of a relationship prayer, this prayer for you and your wife, and that John just starts saying it at night and you were not responding. It did not look like it was going well. In my mind, I'm thinking, oh my gosh, like John probably should stop saying this. It's not, it's not working.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
It's not working because you don't know what's going to happen yet. And then when you turn the page to finally say, You do start embracing this message. You do start saying that this is something like you're starting to look forward to. That was such a beautiful moment because we were able to see the transition in real time happening for you. And it was so powerful. There's more to that, actually.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Yeah.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Oh my gosh. And guys, so many people will say that to me. Oh, you should just read this book, read this book. This literally, I dropped everything and went and read Relationship Brit immediately. It's such an easy read. I read it in, I think it was two hours, right? It's not hard to read. The format, number one, is super cool.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Yes. No, no, no. Yes.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And by the way, this episode right now is for anyone that maybe you're going on a first date. Maybe you're in a relationship. Maybe you've been married for 50 years, Catherine, because I know you shared with me an older woman that really got some massive wisdom that shifted her relationship. This is for anyone that's in any type of romantic relationship, correct? But hold on.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
That's a great reminder that those struggles in the moment are challenging to get through, but that real beauty and growth is on the other side. And like you said, that strength, you wouldn't have that piece that you have now on every trip that he's going on, you know, all as well. And that's a beautiful feeling that you wouldn't have if you hadn't gone through that struggle.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Doctors are always so much easier to connect when we can look back. It's so impossible to do. When you're in that moment. All right. But now I want to pivot and get to you. I want to hear about your podcast. I want to hear about what you're talking on the show. Cause we're, we've got a lot of podcast listeners listening right now.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And I know they want to hear what is happening when Catherine's getting so real.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Oh my gosh, my pleasure. First of all, the pressure you put on yourself, your lineup of your first guest was like ridiculous. It's like most people's largest guests. You've got like Damon, Johnny, I mean, all these headliners, guys, seriously, you've got to check out her show. Incredible lineup.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Well, I'm so here for it. I can't wait for your next book. I love the podcast and I love this book, Relationship Brick, guys. Check it out, get this book and get it for somebody that you love, someone who wants to up-level their relationship. It works and it works fast. It's such an easy read. It's so engaging. And the tips you guys bring to the table are priceless.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
It's not just for that.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Catherine, thank you so much for the work you're doing. And thank you so much for being here today.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
I do that on the daily. I highly recommend that as well. And she is my therapist, Catherine, you're the best, nothing but love for you. And we will talk soon. Thanks for being here. Love you. Thank you, Heather. All right, guys, until next week, keep creating your confidence.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Well, I'll tell you, I needed this book 20 something years ago because I, Some of it, and I just want to jump right in. First of all, at the back of the book, there's a Catherine shares 11 tips on how to have a great relationship. And then John does the same, you know, one from a male perspective and one from female, both super valuable and right to the point.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And so I remember one of the things he said to me was don't forget to like drill down on those points, you know, before you go in there and keep them fresh in your mind. So to be funny, I brought them with me, you know, on the date. And so he and I were reading them together and like going through them.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
But what was interesting was, and this maybe you're going to be like, oh gosh, Heather, no wonder why you never have successful relationships. Number four, don't compete. And I understand now having read your book, of course, don't compete with someone you're in a relationship. However, my entire life in relationships, I competed. To me, again, I'm just, I'm not perfect. I'm far from it.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
I don't know why I did that. I thought it was funny. I thought it was fun. I thought it was a game. Whatever it was, to me, I wanted to be the fastest. I wanted to be the one maybe that grabbed the build. Whatever stupid thing it was, I wanted to win. And because of these tips, because of this book, and because of him and I discussing it, That day, something came up. I forget what it was.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Something stupid about sports. And immediately my mind went to, well, I'll win. I'll find a way to win. And he looked at me. He said, I thought Catherine said we're not supposed to compete. We're on the same team. And it was like that epiphany moment. And I said, you're right. Like we're here to be on the same team, not to go against each other. And it really flipped something inside me. Yeah.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
You know, you're not alone, though.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
It's so true. And it took me back to thinking back on sport teams that I've been on. I was never trying to outdo someone that was next to me, right? I was trying. No, never. If they were on my team, I was there to like high five them and encourage them and tell them to get back up. And you could, it's a complete mind shift that makes, it makes all the sense in the world.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Once it was explained to me, however, no one had ever explained that simple idea. change that I could make. And it was really powerful.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Tell me, have you been enjoying these new bonus confidence classics episodes we've been dropping on you every week? We've literally hundreds of episodes for you to listen to. So these bonuses are a great way to help you find the ones you may have already missed. I hope you love this one as much as I do. I'm so excited for you to meet my guest today, Catherine Gordon.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
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Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
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Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
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Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
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Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
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Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
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Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
And this is interesting, Catherine, because if you are early in a relationship, you don't want to seem like too much and like you're doting too much on someone versus maybe if you're in a relationship for a long time and you've fallen out of it. Now you're like, oh, what? I'm going to reintroduce that. I see on either spectrum how that could be a little challenging.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
Who doesn't want to be giving of kindness and giving of praise of a person that you're in a relationship with? It makes all the sense in the world, but to your point earlier, if you haven't seen that modeled for you or those aren't the relationships you've been in, at first, making the transition, it does feel a little uncomfortable.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
How do you get people to break through that uncomfortable moment?
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
She's a wife, a mother, businesswoman, movie producer, best-selling author of Relationship Grit, and host of the Catherine For Real podcast. A graduate of Old Dominion University, Catherine became a top producer in sales for several companies before deciding to follow her passion as an actress and model.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
For sure, because life just happens. That's how I felt like, right? Like all of a sudden something big happens at work and you have to run off and handle it. Or like you said, the kids are going through a challenging time at school and they really need their mother present. It seems to make all the sense in the world as you and I are just sitting here having a conversation right now.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
But in those difficult moments, how do you remind yourself? I think it takes practice.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
After the birth of her children, she focused on raising them and helping operate her husband's growing speaking business. and consulting business. That's an understatement.
Creating Confidence with Heather Monahan
Confidence Classic: The Formula For STRONG Relationships, With Kathryn Gordon Relationship Expert & Best Selling Author
With her children off to college, she has returned for her second act, investing in real estate and movies, mentoring women, including your girl right here, supporting several charities, writing and speaking to audiences about the keys to a great relationship and loves. Sharing the truth on her podcast, Catherine Forreal. She's my girl. She's the best. Catherine, thanks for being here.