Kane
Appearances
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Yeah, no, I did not know that. Heilman. I wonder why Heilemann caught a glimpse. Hey, you know, so I want to see Blake's scores on those Hillsdale tests, by the way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
I think. Yeah, I'd never even heard of him until I listened to your intro. And somehow I'm not surprised that Blake has that, you know, that knowledge sitting there deep in the cerebellum. You know, Charlie, as I was waiting to come on, I was writing my five bullet points to Doge. I figured, what the heck? I'm a federal worker.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Well, number one was I'm helping to destroy the global Marxist alliance. Number two, I cured 115 people of the woke mind virus. Number three, I made fun of Adam Schiff. And and that's as far as I got. But I'm loving I'm loving all the hysteria over this list. It's it's insane.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
I put up a clip from Scott Jennings last night as he was making fun of Abby, Abby Phillip and making fun of of Anna Navarro just for their these people are outraged at the idea that the government would want to know what they're doing and how they're earning their living. So so I've been having fun with that stuff for sure.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Yeah, Charlie, as I sort of touched on at the end of the last interview, I didn't get interested in politics until I was 21 working at CNN. when the overnight editor started talking to me about the national debt, right? So from that point, that's what brought me to politics. I was a sports guy. That's what brought me to politics. And I actually thought I was gonna do CNN sports.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
But that's a completely different story. But so the national debt and this whole idea of of waste and fraud and bloated government spending. I've been waiting. You know, that means I've been waiting for this stuff for 35 years. I've been waiting for actual spending cuts. I remember stuff that that, you know, there was something called the Penny Kasich bill.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Penny was a congressman from Minnesota, John Kasich, the congressman from Ohio, and was an attempt at actually shrinking the size of government by one percent a year. until we reached a balanced budget. And Andrew can busily sort of, you know, do a Wikipedia on the Penny Kasich Amendment. And it came within one vote of passing, Charlie. And I remember watching it live on CNN, excuse me, on C-SPAN.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
It was probably 93, 94-ish. And it was really, had we gotten, so anyway, my point is, I've had my hopes raised and shattered for 35 years, Charlie. believe you know simpson bowls just in 2015 the obama attempt yeah you know Look, for someone like me, I honestly don't care where the spending cuts come from. Just cut. There's no way.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
You know, I have the Kevin O'Leary, Mr. Wonderful attitude is cut more than you think because there's always more fat on the chicken. Cut more if you have to. Later, you bring these people back. That's a little side, little tangent. I'm sure you've noticed how on Drudge and leftist media, they're like, oh, no, look, they fired these people and had to bring a few of them back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Well, that's how it's supposed to be. Get rid of them at first. Then if you see that you really need them, bring them back. So, you know, kind of trying to wrap this up, the answer. I'm so excited, Charlie. I've never seen anything like these cuts. I'm covering it nonstop. And I want more. And we haven't even got started.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
You know, Social Security, defense, Medicare, Medicaid, those are going to be really, really big.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Correct. And I realized that I forgot to answer that part of your original question, which is how is this playing with the base? What do people really feel? Well, obviously, the monster poll from Harvard-Harris that Warren Bannon talked about it a bunch this morning, and it was asked at the Macron-Trump press conference.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
There were two or three questions about Doge, but they all got over 70% approval. As many Democrats, I try to watch alternative media as much as I can, and you can't fight this stuff. The politicians are trying. But they're not getting any support. We had that press conference, I don't remember, last week.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
The full photo showed that there were just the five senators there and there were no people around them. And they were screaming about what was going on at Doge. So there is no grassroots support not to cut the government. This is turning on everyone. I've seen Jon Stewart say positive things. We've seen the Obama bros who do that podcast. You know, that they've commented positively.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
It's a public relations winner. I think, look, we're all in it sort of minute to minute. So we see the negative stories that are written about Doge and we see what Drudge is sort of pushing and we see what's on CNN. But it's honestly... These polls show that that's not making any impact, that, what, 80, 90 percent of independents and 100 percent of Republicans love these cuts. And so it's hard.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
How do you fight against, you know, how do you win a battle against removing government waste? You can't win. So I say we just, you know, ignore the naysayers and continue on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
I agree 100%, man. It's only 18 months, too, because we know those Gallup polls. I posted Gallup. I think they were at 35%, the lowest in history. And for all of this to have happened in 18 months, this sort of populist reversal, it dovetails with the expansion of the Republican MAGA working class, right, from white working class to black to Hispanic to Asian.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
This sort of populism is really, really working. And I think when you add the Trump transparency and the Elon transparency, transparency on top of it, that's part of why it's winning independence and gaining more popularity is because he's holding these press conferences and he's acting like a boss, but he's answering the questions. And it's just something we've never seen.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
And I think that that has to be the explanation for what you said, that it, you know, how does the Democrat Party go from 50% approval to 32% approval in In 18 months, it's it's cultural, it's media. And and I'm honestly, I never would have expected it would be this good.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
Yeah, I mean, I would have said that I underestimated it. I didn't think it could all come together this smoothly. But I really feel like the special sauce for this, after having gathered this coalition, the special sauce is what's happening now, is these executive orders in the Oval Office, is this extreme transparency. That's what's really turning on people.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
There's a clip at the top of the stack. I'll say really quick right now. It's Jesse Waters sent his guy to Delaware and it was Delaware Street interviews on Joe Biden. And what was really interesting is how all these people knew about the doge cuts. They knew about the crazy things that USAID was spending money on.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Intel Agencies vs. America
And these, you know, just based on appearance, these aren't people you expected to know this. So it's all coming together. And I feel, you know. I'm overjoyed, Charlie. I really didn't think that I could be this happy in late February.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Great, great, great.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Well, thanks Andrew. Sorry, I was just on the other line with my travel agent. I was booking a trip to the Gulf of America. I've got, you know, I figure the rush is going to be on, dude. We probably got about seven hours to book trips all along the Texas coast.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And you know, my travel agent, I don't know if your young viewers even know what travel agents are, but somehow this guy knows your schedule. Yeah. And he said you overslept and missed the flight to Greenland. So that's, that's interesting.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Fox News. Fox News, while you're in the commercial break, just showed the Charlie Kirk Don Jr. selfie on air. They're still doing the segment. So they show that. So, yeah, it's it's it's making the rounds.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Well, everyone's excited, obviously. There's a daily countdown in the open thread. You mentioned Trump's speech and sort of You know, taking back the stage, the world stage and without apology. And it's so obvious that that's happening, Andrew. And it's and it's different from 2017 as well. You know, the Europe is sort of they've lived European leaders.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
They've lived through Trump once before and they sort of know what to expect this time. And there's been some remarkable statements. The Zelensky interview podcast with Lex Friedman, for example, had a couple of really, really interesting comments.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
talking about how every time he speaks with Trump, as soon as he gets off the phone, every leader in Europe is calling him and they want to know exactly what Trump said, every word. And he said that's never happened before. He's never had, you know... Previously with Trump, as well as since Biden has been in office. So that's never happened.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
So it's obvious that the landscape is changing and there are no apologies. You know, you mentioned that. You know, Trump is a little bit trolling. We know he's trolling Canada again with his with his true social post yesterday about the 51st state. But he does it in a in a way that makes sense.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And it and it speaks to the to the sort of make Canada great again audience that we know that is at least 50, 60 percent of the Canadian populace. And it's the same thing with Greenland.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
You know, I think he's trolling slightly less with Greenland, certainly, and the fact that Greenland has said they want their independence from Denmark and that now Trump, as you mentioned, has said that he'll use tariffs against Denmark if they attempt to intervene in any movement that we make.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
to sort of align Greenland with the U.S., whether that's making them a territory or whatever that final result would be. But it's exciting, dude. It's just absolutely exciting. Everyone's caught the fever. I know you guys are looking forward to inauguration. You know, D.C. is going to be rocking. The last time huge Patriot crowds went to D.C., it was a heck of a lot different four years ago.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
So it's a super exciting time. And we earned it. You know, that's the last thing, dude. We earned this with hard work and every single day for four years. We didn't know if these days were going to come. And even if they came, we didn't know, for example, if we were going to hold the House and whether Jamie Raskin was going to attempt his Democrat insurrection.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
So it's really nice just to be able to take deep breaths and remind ourselves that we won. We won all seven swing states. And now our president is back and Europe is taking him seriously. And you know what? It's just a damn good time to be an American, Andrew. It's a damn good time.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
It's huge. And I thought the Dana White story was huge, Andrew. That was big yesterday. I made it a red headline. You know, that's a sea change. You and I both know that Zuckerberg has been training with MMA fighters for the last two, three years. That's why he wanted to sort of battle Elon Musk. So I'm not totally surprised by the Dana White thing.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
But as for the free speech thing, that would be the biggest story of 2025 so far. It was. This morning when I saw it, I was blown away. I think I put four links up to it, including the video from Zuckerberg himself.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
You know, and everything that you said that the fact checkers are gone, that they're going back to free speech and they're modeling it after after Elon Musk and Twitter with community notes. So there's, you know, and he even admit one. He admitted one of his quotes was fact checking has become too politically biased. No one believes it. So it's a huge story.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
You know, it would again, it would be the biggest story of the day if it weren't for Trump just doing 90 minutes and blowing the socks off the national media. what Biden did for those press conferences, and they were all scripted in four years. And Trump has done two of them in 30 days. I can't wait, brother. I cannot wait. We are back.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
That's correct. And you see it. And that's really what it's about. It's their fear of populism as it spreads. We've seen first it was Gert Wilders in the Netherlands. And we saw the French government kicked out. We have the German elections coming. We know probably how that's going to turn out. We've seen what's happened in the UK and the rise of the Reform Party. So
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And then paying attention to media, as I know you do, you know that these sort of these free speech attacks and censorship requirements coming out of the EU have this has really been going on for three or four years. I mean, Facebook, Instagram, Twitter. they've all sort of been facing these kind of draconian laws.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
Europe, you know, people forget that, that free speech and, and they, you know, our first amendment right that our founders gave us, that does not exist in Europe and it doesn't exist in the UK. I mean, everything that people have seen over the last six months, including what's going on with Tommy Robinson shows you that there is, you know, there is no free speech in Europe and great Britain.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And so the, It's nice. Look, here's the thing, Andrew. I think people can change. I think Elon Musk's transformation over the last six years from a pretty much – regular voting Democrat, all the way to a full embracer of the America First agenda and MAGA, I think it shows that people can change and we need to embrace these people when they want to help us.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
And I've seen the same thing this morning with Zuckerberg, right? And you've probably seen the same thing. We've seen hints of this change And yet our base is a little bit skeptical, right? They're like, oh, don't trust the guy. But I want to tell people, look, when you can sort of see this, this is organic. This feels real in Zuckerberg. Sure, he's looking out for his companies.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
But at the same time, what I mentioned before the break about sort of the MMA training, let's not lie. All those MMA guys are America first in MAGA, right? And Zuckerberg's been training with them every single day, probably for three years. And you're telling me that that sort of doesn't rub off on him. And look, he's gotten probably 30 pounds bigger, bigger, all muscle, right?
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
That's more testosterone. Testosterone leads to MAGA. We know that that's like the transitive property of MAGA geometry. So, So, yeah, you're right. But, you know, and they do need to you know, I'm going to admit, yeah, they need Trump's help, especially Zuckerberg. Europe has gone after him hard and now they're aggressively going after Elon Musk.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
I've had several stories in the stack over the past week. I've been waiting for them to sort of bring him up on charges. Is it going to be civil? You know, are these going to be civil complaints? Are there going to be actual criminal charges? What are they going to try to do to keep him out? Well.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
I like it, man. I like it. It's the Trump style. It's infecting all of us, right? It means we push back. We fight back. We no longer just take the slap in the face by half beta presidents named Macron. You know, I like it. And I like threats ahead of time. I like letting them know this is how we are going to respond if you do this to us. So thanks for having me on, Andrew.
The Charlie Kirk Show
The Gulf of America, Greenland, Mark Zuckerberg, and More
I look forward to seeing you next time, brother.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Yeah, no, I figured you didn't know. It was interesting just to listen because I never have time to listen to your show because I'm always stacking.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Maybe Charlie Kirk is on the college campus.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Yeah, you're doing pretty good, dude. I think if you keep working hard for another five years, maybe someone will have heard of you.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
So it's unbelievable, Charlie. It's unbelievable what you've done, what you've actually made of yourself. I don't know if I can talk about, but I want to talk for a minute about how I cannot wait for the Gavin Newsom interview. So wait.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Well, number one, you made the right choice. You and I haven't talked for a week or so. I hadn't really been paying attention to your Twitter, but it just popped up yesterday, the photo. of you leaving Gavin's office. So the first thing I noticed in the photo is Gavin Newsom is not, is not accustomed to dealing with people taller than him.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
So that's the first thing that came to my mind is like Charlie at six, five and a quarter, he's towering over Gavin Newsom. I like this to begin with. Secondly, I I'm glad you did it. Look, we all made fun of Newsom with this, with the launch of the new podcast, but dialogue is important. And one of the things I liked about, um,
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
The most recent event that you guys had was, for example, when you had Cenk up there on stage and you did 20 minutes with Cenk and sort of bridging the kind of left-wing populism that approaches the America First agenda. So I think it's a really good thing that you did it and I can't wait to see it.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
I'm assuming, I know how you find, you tend to find common ground with people, but at the same time, you don't back down on the important issues. So I'm expecting there to be both of that. I'm expecting there to be some, a couple of segments where there's common ground and you sort of bring Newsom to the middle And then I'm expecting segments where he just, you know, goes into full blown denial.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
But I I can't wait to see it, to be honest.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
I don't know, Charlie. I think it's because the moderate voices get drowned out. It was it was a literal freak show last night. It wasn't just the fact that they've completely turned their back on America. They couldn't stand once. They couldn't celebrate any of the achievements, despite the fact that they know in polling, for example.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
You know, for example, in that CBS poll that's out this morning, the ideas that Trump stands for are 25 points more popular than Trump himself. Like almost all of his platforms are in the 70s in approval rating and Trump himself is in the 50s. So the idea that the Democrat Party can't even find any common ground. can't show that they support.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
I mean, I remember, you know, let's more or less, this was a state of the union. So I remember state of the unions when Republicans would, would, would stand up and clap for things that, that Obama did that they supported. I mean, there used to be a little bit of a sense, you know, a small sense of, of, of bipartisan honesty. Let's say to me, it was a freak show. They look like a freak show.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Their signs were freakish. Al Green, that was embarrassing what he did. And it seems so sort of staged. And then as I throw it back, the last thing, Mark Mitchell was on this morning with Bannon on War Room and just really laying out how You know, the numbers, for example, in the 18 to 39 voting group, that Trump has 60% approval with that group.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
So when we look at the overall, Mitchell was pointing out that when we look at the overall approval rating of Trump at sort of 51 to 53 to 55, that it's actually much higher with young people. And he said it's actually above 60% with Hispanics. So I don't know why they're committing, you know, committing, Party suicide, Charlie.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
But the but the you know, the the most extreme voices, the Jasmine Crockett's, the the Sandy from Brooklyn, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. Those are still the voices that are being heard and it is not helping them. And I don't think 2026 is going to be good for them.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Well, it's happening, Charlie. It's been happening for six months, for a year. And to be honest, it's probably, I don't know how to designate percentages here, but it's probably at least 50%. Because of TPUSA. I mean, look, how do you get young people to sort of open their eyes? You go to where they are. You go to college campuses. Who's been going to college campuses more than anyone else?
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
TP Action and TPUSA. So the strategy that you came up with is work. But that's not really even the interesting part. It isn't interesting that it's work. What's really interesting are the actual numbers. These are big, as you said, more than their parents are.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
Can you even imagine saying five years ago that one of the strengths of the America First movement or the Republican movement would be young people, would be voters under 39? It's astonishing that we can even say that. But that's how much things have changed in five years. And again, how it happened, it's a combination of things. It's social media. It's Trump.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
But really at sort of the grassroots, it's all the work that TP did. And
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
You know, it's why probably 14 years ago when you came up with this idea that you were able to find people interested in bankrolling it because there were other people who thought, well, you know what, if this kid can pull it off, that's going to completely change future elections because we're always so used to losing these young votes. So I think that's where it's coming from.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
I don't know if you've already talked about it before, but one thing I wanted to add quickly was – You know, unfortunately, we had a Democrat congressman who'd been in office for 62 days who replaced Sheila Jackson Lee passed away last night.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
So, yeah, it's obviously when anyone passes, it's very tough. But Democrats enjoyed when we lost Matt Gaetz and when we lost Elise Stefanik and how that was going to help their voting. So I think the bottom line of, you know, of what happened is we now have one more vote to play with.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
And something else I'll add that's just been breaking as I've been on the show with you, Howard Lutnick was on Fox News Live. They tried to get him on to explain what's going on with the tariffs. I'm sure your readers are following that we've had, you know, Lutnick came out yesterday and said that Trump might be announcing a 30-day pause. So he sort of clarified in the last 20 minutes.
The Charlie Kirk Show
Can Democrats Pull Out of Their Death Spiral?
He said the full tariff agenda from Trump will come out April 2nd. And he said that it has not been, and the reason it hasn't been announced, and I'm guessing this is why Caroline Leavitt is delayed. I think she's waiting to get a full confirmation.