Judd Apatow

Yeah.

Well, it's a very 1970s, early 80s thing.

I mean, now everybody consciously uncouples.

And people understand the effect it has on your kids when you're in conflict.

But back then, no one knew.

And it was like a bare-knuckle brawl.

And so things didn't get resolved.

And no one knew to check in on their kids to see how it was affecting them.

No one said to me, how are you feeling?

And so as a result, I internalized everything.

And I just thought, oh, I need to take care of myself.

And, you know, my parents, you know, are great.

My dad, like once my dad, you know, I said to him like a few years ago, like, you never talked to me about any of it.

And he said, no.

Yeah, I did.

And I said, no, you didn't.

You never like said, how are you doing?

And in fact, the only thing that really helped me was like, there was a book in the house called Growing Up Divorced.

And I looked at a couple of pages of it once and it like explained some of the dynamics of what this conflict was about in a way I could understand.

And my dad goes, yeah, I left that book out for you.