Judd Apatow

And a lot of it was just about work ethic, them just explaining what it takes to make it.

Like, it's going to take a long time, and you have to find your voice.

Things that I had never heard about before.

I mean, a lot of it did.

And just hearing about their failures and knowing that it was hard made me realize that the only way to make it is to be able to withstand an enormous amount of rejection and to be willing to work hard to get better and that that would not be a short process.

So a lot of people said, oh, it takes like seven years to find your voice as a comedian.

Well, to hear that as a 16-year-old...

It is good because you don't think, oh, it's supposed to happen now.

It's like becoming a doctor.

It's going to take a really long time.

So I think it set my timer in a good way.

And then they all talked about bombing.

So when I bombed, I didn't feel like I should quit the business.

I thought, oh, this is part of it.

I'm in it now.

And even Jerry Seinfeld told me about the first time he did stand-up and he said he got so scared that he just said the names of his jokes.

Yeah.

You know, just like, school, your parents, because he panicked.

But knowing that someone that I looked up to panicked like that, you know, gave me a lot of fortitude when I was bombing and when I was panicking.

Like, oh, this is part of it.