Joseph Cox
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The FBI can take a NOM and they can grow it, at least theoretically, into infinity. You know, it's only dependent on how popular can we actually make this company.
But they need to make the app better, first of all. They need to make it so it's a project that people actually care about. And the way this comes about is that Afgoo, and then people sort of working with him, hire ordinary Android developers, some of whom I've spoken to, and they would log on to their job from a number of different Asian countries.
But they need to make the app better, first of all. They need to make it so it's a project that people actually care about. And the way this comes about is that Afgoo, and then people sort of working with him, hire ordinary Android developers, some of whom I've spoken to, and they would log on to their job from a number of different Asian countries.
But they need to make the app better, first of all. They need to make it so it's a project that people actually care about. And the way this comes about is that Afgoo, and then people sort of working with him, hire ordinary Android developers, some of whom I've spoken to, and they would log on to their job from a number of different Asian countries.
One I spoke to had their MacBook on their chest or their stomach from bed, like I think a lot of work-from-home people probably do nowadays. And he would just fix bugs, he would improve features in the app and in the device, because, okay, it's all well and good that we have this encrypted phone company, but if it's of low quality, nobody's even going to use the phone. It would be embarrassing.
One I spoke to had their MacBook on their chest or their stomach from bed, like I think a lot of work-from-home people probably do nowadays. And he would just fix bugs, he would improve features in the app and in the device, because, okay, it's all well and good that we have this encrypted phone company, but if it's of low quality, nobody's even going to use the phone. It would be embarrassing.
One I spoke to had their MacBook on their chest or their stomach from bed, like I think a lot of work-from-home people probably do nowadays. And he would just fix bugs, he would improve features in the app and in the device, because, okay, it's all well and good that we have this encrypted phone company, but if it's of low quality, nobody's even going to use the phone. It would be embarrassing.
Yeah, so these coders, they think they're just working for a normal Android development company, which is making an encrypted messaging app. They know that. That's fine. They also know there is a message copying feature inside a NOM. But what they're told is that, oh, this is for corporations who, yes, they want to have secure chats, but they need to keep an archive of the messages.
Yeah, so these coders, they think they're just working for a normal Android development company, which is making an encrypted messaging app. They know that. That's fine. They also know there is a message copying feature inside a NOM. But what they're told is that, oh, this is for corporations who, yes, they want to have secure chats, but they need to keep an archive of the messages.
Yeah, so these coders, they think they're just working for a normal Android development company, which is making an encrypted messaging app. They know that. That's fine. They also know there is a message copying feature inside a NOM. But what they're told is that, oh, this is for corporations who, yes, they want to have secure chats, but they need to keep an archive of the messages.
Maybe they work in banking, and this is very common where... you're having crypto messaging inside a financial institution, but to stop stuff like insider trading, there will be like a secure archive of all of the messages as well. So that's what the developers think they're making. They're not told who it's actually sold to, which of course is criminals.
Maybe they work in banking, and this is very common where... you're having crypto messaging inside a financial institution, but to stop stuff like insider trading, there will be like a secure archive of all of the messages as well. So that's what the developers think they're making. They're not told who it's actually sold to, which of course is criminals.
Maybe they work in banking, and this is very common where... you're having crypto messaging inside a financial institution, but to stop stuff like insider trading, there will be like a secure archive of all of the messages as well. So that's what the developers think they're making. They're not told who it's actually sold to, which of course is criminals.
And then you have those criminal resellers like Microsoft who are siloed from the rest of the company. But of course, they're also not told that the actual client above them is the FBI trying to build a surveillance apparatus.
And then you have those criminal resellers like Microsoft who are siloed from the rest of the company. But of course, they're also not told that the actual client above them is the FBI trying to build a surveillance apparatus.
And then you have those criminal resellers like Microsoft who are siloed from the rest of the company. But of course, they're also not told that the actual client above them is the FBI trying to build a surveillance apparatus.
One of those key people is Andrew Yang. Now, he's an assistant U.S. attorney, but he's not a drug prosecutor. He's from, like, the world of, like, tax and, like, white-collar crime. So, through a series of events, when he gets involved in the Phantom Secure case, and then the enorm opportunity comes up, he doesn't have...
One of those key people is Andrew Yang. Now, he's an assistant U.S. attorney, but he's not a drug prosecutor. He's from, like, the world of, like, tax and, like, white-collar crime. So, through a series of events, when he gets involved in the Phantom Secure case, and then the enorm opportunity comes up, he doesn't have...
One of those key people is Andrew Yang. Now, he's an assistant U.S. attorney, but he's not a drug prosecutor. He's from, like, the world of, like, tax and, like, white-collar crime. So, through a series of events, when he gets involved in the Phantom Secure case, and then the enorm opportunity comes up, he doesn't have...
the institutional baggage of the doj sort of hanging over him he sees this as a really cool chance to disrupt the drug trade whereas ordinarily in san diego what prosecutors and other agencies are doing is like we'll just seize drugs at the border we'll give these poor disenfranchised people who are probably trying to make two or three thousand dollars spuggling coke across the border we'll give them a pre-written plea deal you know and we'll move on with our lives