Jonathan Vigliotti

Welcome back. So, Michelle, another key moment at trial was when Pierce took the stand himself. And now this was against the advice of his defense attorney. I'm wondering what insight you had into that decision and also for you what it was like to see him testify, to see him take the stand.

So he was trying to control it. He wanted to come out with his own monologue to set everything up.

So he was trying to control it. He wanted to come out with his own monologue to set everything up.

So he was trying to control it. He wanted to come out with his own monologue to set everything up.

That seems highly unusual.

That seems highly unusual.

That seems highly unusual.

Just straight out lying.

Just straight out lying.

Just straight out lying.

Yeah, this grand image in his head of what transpired.

Yeah, this grand image in his head of what transpired.

Yeah, this grand image in his head of what transpired.

Yeah. This didn't make it into the show, but it was something that when I heard, I struggled to understand initially. Because Detective Jonathan Vander Lee told me that before the arrest, as they were still trying to get enough evidence to bring Pierce in... He was already taking steps. It appeared to flee. He was talking to women in Ukraine on dating apps.

Yeah. This didn't make it into the show, but it was something that when I heard, I struggled to understand initially. Because Detective Jonathan Vander Lee told me that before the arrest, as they were still trying to get enough evidence to bring Pierce in... He was already taking steps. It appeared to flee. He was talking to women in Ukraine on dating apps.

Yeah. This didn't make it into the show, but it was something that when I heard, I struggled to understand initially. Because Detective Jonathan Vander Lee told me that before the arrest, as they were still trying to get enough evidence to bring Pierce in... He was already taking steps. It appeared to flee. He was talking to women in Ukraine on dating apps.

At trial, the prosecution was able to show some pretty damning Google searches. Michelle, can you take me through this?

At trial, the prosecution was able to show some pretty damning Google searches. Michelle, can you take me through this?

At trial, the prosecution was able to show some pretty damning Google searches. Michelle, can you take me through this?

Okay, let me stop you there. Everything else you have described up until that point describes a man looking to flee and still with a one-track mind. He is wanted in connection with the murders of two women and alleged sexual assault, and he is looking for sex in another country and ways of fleeing and outwitting authority.