Jonathan Hearn
Appearances
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Unholy Matrimony
Do you and Jonathan ever talk about him killing Robert? No. Good morning, ladies and gentlemen.
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Unholy Matrimony
She was vulnerable, and he played on that. He used that and manipulated her, and he killed her husband. The most important thing I was trying to bring across to the jury was that Jonathan had been living a lie his entire life by his religious ideation when he actually didn't believe it.
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Unholy Matrimony
All this, you know, pious front you put on is nothing but fabrication. So how can you believe anything coming from this man's mouth?
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Unholy Matrimony
So she called Rob when he was at work to tell him not to eat it. Is that right?
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Unholy Matrimony
Were you ever aware that Sabrina never called her husband those two days he was working at Tehachapi in April?
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Unholy Matrimony
He didn't know until the day before he was killed that he was going to be there. How is Sabrina telling you within two weeks of August 17th that Rob was going to be there on August 17th?
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Unholy Matrimony
Would she ever, in your opinion, be involved in anything that would harm Rob?
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Unholy Matrimony
I felt it was necessary for Sabrina to testify because I think the jury needed to get to know who she was. They needed to understand why she had become involved with Jonathan Hearn. Was there something about your relationship with Jonathan that you felt you needed?
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Unholy Matrimony
Did he ever provide you with any vanilla wafer banana pudding to give to Robert?
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Unholy Matrimony
He, to save his own hide... came in and spun his story so that he would have a day out of prison in the future and to take away her life.
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Unholy Matrimony
There's no way to predict how a jury is going to come back. Any lawyer who says, well, this is a slam dunk win, I can guarantee it, are lying through their teeth. I was hopeful that they would acquit her.
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Unholy Matrimony
When the jury came back, my first reaction was disappointment, anger, frustration.
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Unholy Matrimony
Was I nervous about it? Yeah. But it's not my decision to make. She made the decision herself, and I think she had to stand up for herself.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
You can't talk about this. You can't write about it. Are the clues.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
is a lot like you and I, Sabrina. He was someone who committed adultery. Actually, that's what Psalm 51 is about. He had an affair and then he even went on to kill the guy, like sent him into battle and pretty much had him killed off.
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The After Show: Unholy Matrimony
Whatever he wants me to do. I mean, I would cut my arm off. I would shave my head. I would, if that's. Like, what God would want for me, you know? Like, I feel that. Like, whatever it is.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yes, it's a lawsuit saying you can't inherit money from someone who you had a part in. killing, basically. So Nathan's aunts bring this against him. You know, the family dynamics of this are... They're quite interesting.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
She sure did. You know, the same thing actually reminded me of the Succession family a little bit from the HBO show. John Chaklos was worth about $40 million, maybe more. He was a real estate developer, owned and operated nursing homes. And he spent a lot of money on his family. And it seemed like there was constantly this sort of bickering and fighting for love and attention and...
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yeah, especially between Linda and John, they would fight over Nathan. As I said, John was sort of grooming Nathan to possibly become a part of his business, and he just doted on him as the first grandson. It actually came to blows at some point. The police were called. Yeah, physical fight. Physical fight, the police were called. So just a very dynamic, tumultuous family.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
And then they would come back together. And John Chaklos, he was telling his nephew that he wanted Nathan to repair things with his mother. Nathan and his mother would have a tumultuous relationship as well. He was living in a trailer apartment. on her property and then eventually moved out.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
And these fishing trips that they did were one of the real ways they bonded, one of the only ways they could connect.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Three different generations, the grandfather, the mother, and Nathan all died. And, you know, Charlene says it's not over. And it really isn't for this family. I think there's a lot of unhealed wounds. Nathan's charges were dismissed. And the John Chocolos case is still active. So no one's had any closure on that.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Also, the John Chaklis's money is still being working its way through probate court. So I think it's it's it's been difficult for this family to to find closure, move on this.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Exactly. He's still very angry. One of my favorite parts of producing is just doing these interviews and you never know what you're going to get. And so I arrived a little bit earlier the day you interviewed Chuck LaPenna and I said, can I take you out and just do a little drive and shoot some video with you? And he said, where would you like to go?
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The After Show: Family Lies?
And I said, well, is there anywhere you would want to go that would mean anything to you? And he said, well, why don't we go to the cemetery?
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The After Show: Family Lies?
That's how that, and I, you know, we do as much research and pre-interviewing as possible, but he had never mentioned that.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
It could be very painful. Yes, and so he drove us to his, well, his uncle's, John Chakalos, it's the Chakalos plot. Nathan is buried there. John Choklis is buried there. And Linda is not buried there.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Right. And so he was upset, angry that her stone wasn't there. But it was quite an honor to be invited into such an intimate moment. And just the two of us drove there, and he allowed me to document him paying respects to his family members. So that was a powerful moment for me.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Right. And I hope it was cathartic for him. You know, sometimes he talked about how other family members are just sick of him talking about this. So I think it's nice just to have someone listen to you. And I think it was completely cathartic. Hear your story. Exactly.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
No, I was nervous, but this was great. You always make it easy. Now I know what it's like being interviewed by Debra Roberts.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yeah, that was the Upper West Side. Oh my gosh, yes. The bathtub we interviewed Rod Covlin.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Well, you know, 2020 has been on the story from the very beginning. And at first it appeared that this was just a heroic rescue tale. Yeah. I mean, something out of the movies. This kid gets rescued at sea after a week.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
from a Chinese cargo freighter, needle in a haystack. It was an incredible rescue story. The media hopped on that. We were chasing that story, but then the layers started to emerge. And as people started looking into the case, it turns out that Nathan was the last person to see both his mother and his grandfather alive. And his grandfather, it turned out, had been murdered three years prior.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
No one had been charged. It was still an active investigation. It still is an active investigation, actually. As we delve deeper and deeper, we found it really turned into this family saga just filled with so many interesting characters. John Chocolos, Nathan's grandfather, was this patriarch, this very wealthy businessman. He had all kinds of contacts, all kinds of
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The After Show: Family Lies?
reasons that people might have a beef with him. And many people in his family had, it was a very complicated family dynamic.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
He was tough, but Nathan and him had a very special relationship. Nathan was the firstborn grandson, and he was sort of the golden child for his grandfather. He was taking him to business meetings. He was paying for his apartment. His boat really just took care of him. And then Nathan emerges as really the heart of the story and a fascinating character. We learn he was on the autism spectrum.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Everyone can watch and determine for themselves, is he just nervous? Is he lying? Is this just the way he behaves? He says in an interview with us, you know, I don't understand... I don't understand people. So he has, you know, he doesn't react to questions from police or from interviewers the way many people think he should. So that create a lot of extra suspicion on him.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yeah, this is a big production challenge. You know, at 20-20, we try and bring the viewer into the crime scene, the scene where it happens. We try and get... crime scene photos. We try and go into the actual space, but in this case, of course, we couldn't do that because the boat had sunk.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Right, that's part of one of the questions. But we want to show the viewer and bring them in and make them understand where this happened. So we... for a boat and a captain as close to Nathan's boat, which is called the Chickenpox, 31-foot fishing boat. And we tried to find as best example of that as we could. And our whole team was calling every marina every day.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
every captain from Connecticut to Rhode Island trying to find a boat. And you know, of course we were shooting this just the past few months in February, March, a lot of boats are on dry dock. And so it was very difficult to find, but credit to our whole production team, we were able to find a boat that was almost exactly mirrored Nathan's.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
It was a little bit longer, but it had the same specifications. Captain Dave brought us out. And then, of course, I was worried about the weather every single day because it was still March in New England.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
We all wanted to be comfortable. But then we woke up and it was a bright, sunny day. And it was actually a beautiful day at sea.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Well, yes, I grew up. I mean, one of my favorite parts of being a producer at 2020 is traveling around the country and the world and visiting places I might not normally get to visit. But in this case, I grew up outside Boston, Lexington, Massachusetts, and the whole story took place sort of in my own backyard.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
I spent summers working in Provincetown on the Cape and spent lots of time in the Berkshires. In this case,
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The After Show: Family Lies?
uh you know traverses almost all of new england there were things that happened in almost every state connecticut massachusetts rhode island new hampshire vermont um so we uh you know it was really nice to be able to get to spend uh time back in new england in fact one of our best crew guys that we use we did a a big road trip just shooting b-roll locations of every spot and on the way we were going back to boston i was mapping it out and i was going right by my parents house oh
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The After Show: Family Lies?
And I texted my mom and said, do you think do you think my camera cameraman and I can come by for dinner? And she said, yeah. And you did. And yeah. And my mom made us dinner and we got to spend and have a nice home cooked meal. That's cool.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yeah. I mean, there were lots of odd aspects of Nathan's story about how the boat sank that And investigators jumped on immediately. And so that's one of the reasons we went out on the boat, too, is to kind of get a visual sense and really understand why his story may or may not have made sense.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
I mean, one of the things he said was that the boat was taking on water and he told his mother, go take in the fishing reels. And she said, OK. And that was the last thing he ever heard from her. And then you're on this boat and you realize it's quite small. And...
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yeah. Another thing is that he went, he said he didn't think the boat was sinking yet. He went in three times to get survival gear and bring it out. He passed by this Mayday radio beacon three times without calling for help. Saying he didn't think the boat was sinking. He just said he didn't think the boat was sinking.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
And so you talked to Dave Farrell and you went in the wheelhouse and you could see It's right there. It would take three seconds. Yeah.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
And the other thing was just the general size of the boat and that he said he'd never saw his mother again. And I mean, this is a small boat, the size of a small living room.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
I got on a life raft like we were talking about earlier. You know, we wanted to show what his lifeboat looked like. And so we got an almost exact replica of the lifeboat that Nathan was in. And we had to get on the life boat, life raft to show what it looked like. And I got in there and let me tell you, I was in there for maybe 20 minutes and I was done. It was hot. It was wet.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
It was uncomfortable. You know, it... The swells weren't even that bad, but yes, you still start to get a little queasy. And Nathan reported there were 13-foot waves at some point. So that was another area that investigators looked to about why this story might have seemed suspicious when he was rescued a week later. Nathan seemed in pretty good health. He did not have extensive sun exposure.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
He did not have, you know, water exposure from sitting in standing water.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
He seemed relatively healthy. And, you know, there are survival experts who were deposed who said there is no way this would happen. You know, FBI, Coast Guard investigators, they all did not believe his story. And just from my own experience being on that life raft for 20 minutes, I was ready to get out. I like adventure.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
I like doing, this is what I live for, kind of doing these fun, these interesting things. And that was not fun. So it really gave me a very intimate insight into what his experience might have been like.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Well, yes, getting police interviews or, you know, depositions, but especially police interviews are... are a really great way to take the viewer into the story. You get to see this person, whoever's being interviewed, reacting on the spot in sort of high pressure situations, and the viewer can just decide what they think of it on the spot.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
In this case, Nathan is interviewed extensively by the Windsor police in relation to the murder of his grandfather. John Chocolos, and the night John Chocolos was murdered, Nathan was meeting his mother for a different fishing trip, and he was an hour late meeting his mother.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Yeah, he was supposed to meet her at three. He didn't get there until four, and he claims he got lost. and he got lost on roads that he had been driving for years. So you get to hear investigators question him about this and see his reaction. And I would say he seems rather nervous. Now, he's a teenage kid getting questions by police. And again, we talked about his autism spectrum.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
So viewers can watch it and decide, does this seem credible? There's another really fascinating piece of video in a deposition in a subsequent lawsuit that his family, the Slayer lawsuit that this family brings against him. And he ends up taking the fifth 81 times, which is of course his legal right.
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The After Show: Family Lies?
Himself in this lawsuit, he represented himself. But yeah, I mean, 81 times taking the fifth, meaning, you know, he didn't want to answer to avoid incriminating himself. It just gives additional context and it lets you into the story and understand what was happening.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
Immediately leaving, probably fear, regret. Later on, I guess a feeling of relief that what had been in the works for so long was finally done.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
What are you wearing? Shorts and a sleeveless t-shirt.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
I love you and can't wait to be with you. So I want to be everything that I need to be to prepare for that.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
What did you tell her? She was worried. She hadn't heard from either of us and had been trying to call both of us and referring to both me and Robert. And she wanted to make sure I was okay. And I did express that I had done it and that everything was about to change.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
You know, I feel like I was, like we talked about money stuff, and I feel like I was kind of, sort of being selfish, anticipating a certain amount you know, ease or anticipating a certain, like, oh, well, this will be super easy because this will happen and this will happen. And it's like, no, let God control it.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
The cops in the wire room perked up when they heard that.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Detective Meyer knew that Old Testament story of adultery and death.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I love you. I love you. I love you. To the end of the world, I love you.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
He is a regular guy, but he loves God. He was someone who committed adultery. It says in the Bible that David was a man after God's own heart.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
With respect to Rob, to kill him. When you hear Jonathan's statement, what do you think?
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Like, God really liked him. He was like one of God's favorite people ever.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I did express that I had done it and that everything was about to change.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Well, yeah, they were asking personal questions about Rob and I. Did you guys have an open marriage?
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
Is that right? That would be a good characterization.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Hey, I'm not sure what's going on, but Detective Meyer called me. He's going to call me back.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
Ms. Lamone had the distinction of knowing that I was involved in an extramarital affair, so perhaps she was less deceived.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
tall white male was leaving on a motorcycle, someone that knows Rob by the name of John, John, J-O-N.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
Sir, in the time that we've had these wiretaps was a pretty narrow time. perspective of our relationship, which went all the way back to 2012. I think back in 2012 and 13, you would have heard less references to God.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
I feel like Kelly and Jason would do that just to put it out there just because they don't like me.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
But they would mess up my chances, like, to be, you know what I mean? Like... Yeah, I guess they would, maybe.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Could it be? Oh, seeing the motorcycle there, I bet you.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
God, you've given us a purpose. I think it's somebody trying to frame me because of this affair. God, please keep us safe.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
So a tall, skinny, white guy driving away on a motorcycle. A John that knew Rob. That just sounds like Detective Meyer trying to make something up, honestly. Why would he tell you that other than to record the conversation?
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
I wouldn't be surprised if they were listening to us right now.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
I just realized now life is so short and I'm shaky right now. I'm sorry. I would really like to talk to you.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
I did talk to Rob, and I was able to apologize to him, and that was something that was very meaningful to me, and he forgave me.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
I would say it's a possibility, but I honestly, I don't know.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
I want to fix this with you, so if you could give me a call back, I would really appreciate it. Thank you so much.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Okay, we think we have a guy. Do you recognize this person on the motorcycle? No.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Tan shorts and a tank top, a black tank top, and a mask, it looks like.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
If they're just using, like, a picture of me that they randomly found, if it's me, they'll be like, oh, no, no.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Clearly, I see that they want to look at me. Clearly, they want to look into us.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
We want our lawyer there from the beginning because we don't want to just let him grab us for a long time before we have a lawyer. And then after the fact, you get a lawyer who's now already like two steps behind you.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Through this, through our adultery, you have brought us to repent. Help us to not be caught for this, to not be destroyed for this. I love you, Sabrina.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
You and I... have an affair, you know? And it's like, well, of course they're going to look into that.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 3: Tickling the Wire
Gosh, I'm so bummed that I'm on overtime today and that I'm so bummed that I'm working tomorrow.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 5: Busted
I did not. Plan the poisoning of Robert with some necessary assistance from Sabrina. That's the voice of Jonathan Hearn. I needed to know what kind of food he would be sure to eat. She provided me a couple suggestions. We discussed the location where they should take place. We agreed upon Tehachapi to send him some food laced with poison.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
And now I'm suddenly realizing the well-funded government system is against you and me right now.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
And they are, you know, sitting down here and watching, they're listening to this conversation.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
They're trying to put together a case to go through all this work just to tell a story, paint us in a bad light, and put us in jail.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 5: Busted
on a dog. I experimented with that on a neighbor dog who had caused me considerable issues in the past and put the arsenic on some meat and gave it to the dog to see what would happen.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
That's what they want, the wife. You know? Like, that's so crazy. Like, I know. I can't even believe this is my life. I've already watched it on TV.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 5: Busted
She told me that she put the smaller portion for Robert, put it in his lunch the next day, whatever his next shift was out to Hatchby.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
I put the arsenic on some meat and gave it to the dog to see what would happen.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 5: Busted
Yes, sir. My name is Jonathan Hearn. Last name spelled H-E-A-R-N.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I have evoked God's name and yet behaved exactly opposite of his dictates. I have sinned.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I am aware that for my crimes, anything short of death is really merciful. Yet for my sin, I truly do deserve much worse. I have wept and struggled searching for adequate words to express my repentance. It seems like saying I'm sorry to you all will never be enough. And so speaking on borrowed and undeserved breath, I offer you my
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
brokenhearted and genuine apology, knowing that it cannot compare to the grief that I've caused all of you. To Robert's family and his dear friends, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for stealing your brother, your friend, your beloved relative, and taking your joy from you.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
24 years old. How old were you when you met Sabrina Lamont? 22 years old.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
Yes, sir. How regularly? I don't want to give an exact approximation, but I have direct recollection of having many.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
Very deep. We were planning to marry, so very deep.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
She expressed that the loyalty of her family and friends would most likely be with Rob and she would be seen as the bad guy. As sad as this sounds, for Rob's sake, she expressed that he would honestly rather be dead than divorced.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
If police retrieved her phone records... If the investigator was to query her phone records and see a substantial amount of communication with someone else, that would obviously be something pretty suspicious.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
Hello, Jason. This is Jonathan Hearn. I'd really like to talk to you sometime soon. I just got back from San Diego and went into Costco and heard about Rob.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
He thought that it might be better to just approach him directly for the killing.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
No, not at all. I am begging you on my knees right now that I could perhaps meet with you and your wife and say sorry. for the hurt that I caused you.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Well, yeah, and how much of Rob and I's story. I mean, they were asking personal questions about Rob and I. Mm-hmm.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 2: The Man on the Motorcycle
I feel numb and you know what? I feel like God has crushed me and he has gotten my attention.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
Yeah, I'll talk to you about that tonight.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
She asked me if I could be detected, and so I explained that I didn't think I would be recognized. She asked me about the motorcycle, if that would be noticeable, because it did have custom lettering on it, and I explained that I was taking measures to disguise the motorcycle as well.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
I'm just going to be doing stuff here today, being your prayer warrior today, back here.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I began walking back down towards where I had seen Robert Park and where the garage door was still open.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
We have an understanding of this purpose we've been given.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
It was inevitable that Rob needed to die for Sabrina and I to move forward with our relationship.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 4: David and Bathsheba
God, please help the DNA thing to be the way in which... We are kept from having our dirty laundry aired. God, we have been sinners and we have cheated. God, you're a savior.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I remember sort of praying about the conflict that arose out of that purpose, but essentially it felt like I was approaching something that inevitably had to be done.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
We briefly spoke. I don't have distinct recollection right now.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
At some point he turned around. I fired the first shot from within the bag. At what angle did you fire the first shot? It was a very steep upward directed shot just because the trajectory was affected by the fact the end of the gun was still stuck in the corner of the bag that I was holding.
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Deadly Mirage - Ep. 6: He Said, She Said
I really didn't want to leave him if he wasn't entirely dead. So I went back around the backside of the truck and quickly fired one more shot at him and then closed the garage door behind me and ran from the facility.
Deadly Mirage
Busted
I did not. Plan the poisoning of Robert with some necessary assistance from Sabrina. That's the voice of Jonathan Hearn. I needed to know what kind of food he would be sure to eat. She provided me a couple suggestions. We discussed the location where they should take place. We agreed upon Tehachapi to send him some food laced with poison.
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on a dog. I experimented with that on a neighbor dog who had caused me considerable issues in the past and put the arsenic on some meat and gave it to the dog to see what would happen.
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She told me that she put the smaller portion for Robert, put it in his lunch the next day, whatever his next shift was out to Hatchby.
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Immediately leaving, probably fear, regret. Later on, I guess a feeling of relief that what had been in the works for so long was finally done.
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What did you tell her? She was worried. She hadn't heard from either of us and had been trying to call both of us and referring to both me and Robert. And she wanted to make sure I was okay. And I did express that I had done it and that everything was about to change.
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I love you. I love you. I love you. To the end of the world, I love you.
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With respect to Rob, to kill him. When you hear Jonathan's statement, what do you think?
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I did express that I had done it and that everything was about to change.
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Ms. Lamone had the distinction of knowing that I was involved in an extramarital affair, so perhaps she was less deceived.
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Sir, in the time that we've had these wiretaps was a pretty narrow time. perspective of our relationship, which went all the way back to 2012. I think back in 2012 and 13, you would have heard less references to God.
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I have evoked God's name and yet behaved exactly opposite of his dictates. I have sinned.
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I am aware that for my crimes, anything short of death is really merciful. Yet for my sin, I truly do deserve much worse. I have wept and struggled searching for adequate words to express my repentance. It seems like saying I'm sorry to you all will never be enough. And so speaking on borrowed and undeserved breath, I offer you my
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brokenhearted and genuine apology, knowing that it cannot compare to the grief that I've caused all of you. To Robert's family and his dear friends, I'm so sorry. I'm sorry for stealing your brother, your friend, your beloved relative, and taking your joy from you.
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24 years old. How old were you when you met Sabrina Lamont? 22 years old.
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Yes, sir. How regularly? I don't want to give an exact approximation, but I have direct recollection of having many.
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She expressed that the loyalty of her family and friends would most likely be with Rob and she would be seen as the bad guy. As sad as this sounds, for Rob's sake, she expressed that he would honestly rather be dead than divorced.
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If police retrieved her phone records... If the investigator was to query her phone records and see a substantial amount of communication with someone else, that would obviously be something pretty suspicious.
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He thought that it might be better to just approach him directly for the killing.
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She asked me if I could be detected, and so I explained that I didn't think I would be recognized. She asked me about the motorcycle, if that would be noticeable, because it did have custom lettering on it, and I explained that I was taking measures to disguise the motorcycle as well.
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I began walking back down towards where I had seen Robert Park and where the garage door was still open.
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It was inevitable that Rob needed to die for Sabrina and I to move forward with our relationship.
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I remember sort of praying about the conflict that arose out of that purpose, but essentially it felt like I was approaching something that inevitably had to be done.
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The defendant, Jonathan Hearn, will enter a plea of guilty in return for his bold and truthful testimony in court proceedings involving Sabrina Limon.
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At some point he turned around. I fired the first shot from within the bag. At what angle did you fire the first shot? It was a very steep upward directed shot just because the trajectory was affected by the fact the end of the gun was still stuck in the corner of the bag that I was holding.
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I really didn't want to leave him if he wasn't entirely dead. So I went back around the backside of the truck and quickly fired one more shot at him and then closed the garage door behind me and ran from the facility.