John Rallo
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The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
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The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Gentlemen, we still don't have a name for this. We're not the Cucks, right? What was wrong with the Cucks? Cucks is okay. Protect your neck. I think protect your neck is best. That's the best one.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And he's been dropped in that fight already.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He got dropped. The way he ended with him face planted. Oh. It's the stuff of legends. Yeah. And the fact that it's for the BMF belt, what a perfect fight for the BMF belt.
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Yeah, you don't even know what's happening. I think that was the first fight I ever stood up. I got out of my chair. I couldn't take it. I literally couldn't take it. I couldn't take it. I can't be sitting down. I had to stand up. Anik, too. Anik doesn't stand up very often, either, I don't think. I couldn't sit down. I was like, I can't believe I just saw that. I can't believe that was real.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And then when Max is walking around going, rah! Fucking wild, man. That was wild.
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When he fought Calvacator and he's looking away, he's like, I'm the best boxer!
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I still gave him the second fight with Volkanovski. So you have to go back and think. Imagine if he wins and then he doesn't go through this skid. You know, and you see, oh, the Calvin Cater fight was brutal. He changed Calvin Cater's career. I'm the best boxer. Yeah. He changed Calvin Cater's career in that fight. That was a bad beating.
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Oh, that's right. But no audience, right?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Look at that. He's not even looking at him and avoiding all the punches. That's the worst. I'm the best boxer. But the other thing about Max, too, is that fucking gas tank. That gas tank is a weapon. Yeah, he doesn't stop. It's a weapon. It's a weapon, man. The volume in the gas tank. It's a weapon. It's wild. And that power's legit, too. Max seems to be even more powerful at 55 than he is at 45.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That's what I thought. But my question is, does he maintain that when he gets down to 45? Like, how hard's that cut?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I hope so. I would not want to see him drained at all if he's fighting Ilya.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They're going to get, like, drop foot or something from nerve damage.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He got dinged. And he came back like a fucking beast. He did. And stopped him in the next round. Yeah. But Ilya's hands are some of the most impressive hands in the sport. No fat in his technique. No wasted movements.
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the best box i was getting ready to say you're gonna find out this is good jamie but there's a video that's like recently on his instagram that's fucking insane because he's going full clip trying to show off and you get to really like he's working here it's all good but see if you can find the clip that's on his instagram page his instagram has a insane video of him just cracking mitts we played it on the podcast the other day remember i just didn't know i mean yeah that's it right there give me some volume so you hear this shit
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Clean. Everything. No wasted motion, man.
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Yeah, Max can't be there for that. Tall as fuck.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, and if Max can catch him and hurt him the way Jai Herbert did, you know, with something sneaky.
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Yeah. He's watching that guy like a hawk.
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No. I think they're waiting to see what happens.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I would 100% want to see him rest a lot. I think after those two... He should have never taken a 10-days notice fight with Islam. Never. Never, never, never, never. Don't do it. I don't care how much it's tempting. And then immediately, three months later, he fights Topuria? After he gets KO'd with a head kick?
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Right, but no other sport would want a champion to go in there and fight for a title with 10 days notice. They would never ask you to do that anywhere else. That would never happen in boxing. It's never going to happen in a million years in boxing.
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That's a bit of a problem. But also, Volkanovski, he had the choice. He's a warrior. He's a savage. He's going to go do it. Yeah, he's a savage. We crazy. We crazy.
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Yeah, of course. Hindsight's always 20-20. Trying to build his legacy. Of course. And look, that's what Aspinall did, and he won the title. Right, exactly.
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Exactly. He's fighting Pavlov. That guy's an animal. Yeah. How's he fighting Pavlich with fucking, what did he have? Like how many days notice did he have? It was like seven days. Seven days notice. And a fucked up rib. Couldn't wrestle. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a wild sport. Sometimes guys step in on short notice and it's exciting and they win. The key is never get out of shape.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I think with Volkanovski, he was drinking a lot.
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Right, and you get 10 days notice, you might be able to pull it out. You might be able to pull that out. And if you maintain a respectable level of cardio, but if you're Volk and you're drinking cheeseburgers, and then you've got to lose all that fucking weight.
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Well, everybody says that they develop an eating disorder. How about Patty? Yeah. Patty the baddie.
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Those cheeks on him, he gets huge. He goes hard. He gained 40 pounds in a week. God damn.
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He's going to be Butterbean. He already beat right between fights. It's crazy. Butterbean with that crazy hair. That's him. He does it proudly, too. He don't give a fuck. Bro, that Bobby Green fight was a big deal. That was a big deal. That was about as... Yeah.
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Nobody wants to see that. Yeah. You know, it's interesting the way Pajero does everything. Because he doesn't, I don't think he runs the risk as much of that. Because, first of all, he kind of kicks around the outside of your leg always. He never goes shin to shin. And even when he kicks the thigh, he's like kicking up. Yeah, it's like an upward, even on the back. Yeah, for sure.
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Very sharp off his back. And the other thing was, like, you notice how big he looked, because Bobby's big. Bobby's not a small 55er, and you realize, like, damn, he might underestimate how big Patty is at 55. He's fucking pretty big. And those kicks were good.
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But Bobby's a very good stand-up fighter.
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So Bobby get his legs lit up that quick, that was a big deal.
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But do you think he's ready for the top guys now? Would you put him in there with an Armand Saroukian? You know what I'm saying?
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Ooh. He brought him up. And how good is that fucking post-fight interview? Oh, man. He's the best.
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Well, he figured it out, man. You know, some guys figure it out. Like, Colby had to figure it out.
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That's why it's so interesting that a guy like Pereira gets as high as he gets with none of that. Zero. Zero.
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Bro, and that thing he did when he kicked the soccer ball and then hit it with an arrow? Oh, yeah, yeah.
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He kicked a soccer ball and then shot it with an arrow. So he kicks it and then draws it. Oh, he really shoots arrows? Yes.
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No, no. He's really good, man. He's really good at that. That guy's right out of the Amazon, that motherfucker. But he does that kind of archery. I don't even do that kind of archery. I do archery with, like, releases and fucking everything. It's like this. For bop. He nails it, and that's before he beat Adesanya.
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Listen, give me some volume on this, because when he screams, imagine being the neighbor and hearing this. Here, he hits it. Imagine being the neighbor.
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Get this guy out of here. And then you watch him on pay-per-view, like, oh, Jesus Christ, you can't even complain. You can't even say, hey, man, I'm trying to take a nap. That's pretty sick.
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Well, he's got the swag with him as just the stoic warrior, coming out and shooting an arrow at you and screaming.
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He always catches that back angle or an up. Until he wants to smoke you like Yuri. Like Yuri, he came across and just smoked him. But it wasn't just about touching. He knew he already had him. He almost knocked him out at the end of the first. He knew he had him. Yeah. But it's just the power that he can generate from no hip at all. He's just slapping you.
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People forgot about Pete Spratt. He was a good striker. Very good striker. Dude. What a crazy time this sport has gone through. And all these years, like, this fight was so horrible to watch, man. These guys were so busted up. Look at Rory's nose. It's gone.
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That's how it ends. Oh, and then it just, like, he just can't take it anymore. Head split open, his lips split open. Yeah, his lips hanging off.
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And he knocked him out without taking a shot. And that's so easy to say, I want one more after that. But he's going to be a great coach too, and I'm sure he is. But he's also a guy like, you want that guy to be proud of you.
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It's Robbie Lawler. Yeah, for sure. There's something to that if you're getting coached by a guy like that. Look at his face, man.
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Yeah. You better really know what you want if you're going to do this for a living. Yeah, dude. And you got to look across and see that shit. Right, yeah. This guy's got a fucking Joker smile on him. He's ready to go to war for the fucking final round.
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Yeah, I'm excited. I don't know what's going to happen in the main event. I know you're partial to Murab, but I just don't know what's going to happen. I'm very interested. Very interested.
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I feel like Sugar is a better striker than Marlon. And Marlon had Merab in trouble. And that's what gives me pause on the feet. You can only take so many of those sniper shots from Sugar. But can he land them? And can Merab keep moving and keep threatening and pressure? You know...
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The argument is there's one guy who's going to win by taking him down and smashing him, and the other guy's going to win by knocking him out on the feet. And we don't know what's going to play out. It's going to be interesting.
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He's also a great game planter. Him and Tim Welch have a great relationship. They study shit. They find holes. They knew that Aljo has this tendency to get a little over-anxious and charge in, and he was ready for that. I'm just interested to see if he can capitalize, because if he can't, if Merab can get a hold of him. Merab's just a different kind of Wolverine on top of you.
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And Merab's one of them nutty dudes that spars up until the day of the fight, right?
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flicks it's crazy because it's the perfect combination of a guy who has this insane god-given power like he's got insane one touch of death power left hook and then the intelligence to not wind up it's kind of crazy yeah he's just tapping you with it tapping you with it but the thuds are so bad and they're so it's such a clean shot yeah it's a clean shot i think
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And he also knows this is his big moment.
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Oh, my goodness. That was a wake-up call for everybody in the division. Like, he can do that to Jan? Oh, my God. Jan's a strong motherfucker, man.
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That's no he can fuck you up on the feet, too And that's part of the problem of the guy who's trying to take you down all the time.
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Yeah Yeah, and then these bombs get on your way get off of you, but Sean is such a fucking sniper, and he's so agile His movement is Switching stances of fighting just as good off the left is off the right you can switch stances in the middle of a combination choose angles It's just, can he keep that fucking animal off of him?
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That's what I'm saying. I love that shit.
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So many fucking good fights these days, man. What a good time to be a fan. Right? Fuck yeah, man. We're spoiled. We're so spoiled. The most.
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I wonder how many more people would buy it if it's $20 rather than $70. They might make their money.
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He said he might even do Canelo for free.
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That too. They might. $70 is a lot. It's like, isn't it $79? Sometimes it's more than that. It's a lot. If it's $20, I wonder. I wonder how much. I mean, it'd be an interesting thing to try.
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Isn't Betterbeef 20-0 with 20 knockouts? Yeah.
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Ben Whitaker. No, Ben Whitaker. You know who Ben Whitaker is? Yeah. That dude who's got that crazy drunken style. Yeah, he's awesome. He's awesome. Big, tall, light heavyweight. He's got this wild style. 90 bucks. 90 bucks.
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Next time, 20 bucks. You can find the article. That was 20. That becomes 20 bucks a month. Joshua versus Du Bois. There you go.
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Oh, that's a good deal. So you pay for the pay-per-view and then other fights are 20 bucks. 20 bucks. Oh, there you go. That's a good deal.
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All right, gentlemen, this was a lot of fun. Oh, man. So, Protect Your Neck, that's our new name. Yeah, that's it? That's it. Way better than Cucks. Cucks was fun. I think so. But our chat group is still Cucks. It is. Change it. Change it. I'm going to change it. I'm going to change it. I'm going to change it to Protect Your Neck. All right.
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Gentlemen, tell everybody where they can see your new podcast, and thank you for doing it. I'm very glad you did.
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I'm down with that. Protect your neck. I'm down for that. Wu-Tang theme song. Yeah, Wu-Tang. Perfect.
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And you said it's on everything else, too?
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Well, he's got to learn it, right? And he is learning it. And why not just do that too? If he could just mix that in, how many more strikes would he land too? Because then if there's a real threat of him taking you down.
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Yeah. And by the way, how fucking strong is that guy on the ground probably? I know. His hands are probably so big he's just like.
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That dude's made out of wood. When I put my hand on him to talk to him, he's made out of wood. Especially at 85.
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Exactly. You got it. There's two Wu-Tang songs I always listen to when I'm going to an arena, when I'm doing a show. It's Protect Your Neck and Gravel Pit. Those two, they just get you in the groove.
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Shama. Shama. What does that mean? It means everything. It means, like, fight. It means, like, fuck yeah. Shama. Shama. It's cool when he says it. When someone says, like, they want to fight, he's like, shama. And you're like, shama. You don't want to hear that from that kid.
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Yeah. He's got the scariest walkout of all time. That little limp that he does. That arrow. Yeah, it's good. And he yells. And you're in that octagon waiting for him, and you see that stomp. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, yeah, yeah.
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Seriously, he thought him and Jamal were going to be cool with each other. And then Jamal started clowning him. And he got angry. He got really angry. It was a mistake. You don't want that guy angry. But Jamal, that fight, there was that weird moment where he kicked Jamal in the nuts, or Jamal kicked him in the nuts, rather.
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And he waved, when he waves her being off, and he did a little step in there.
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He got a little closer. He got in the kitchen.
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He's right. He's definitely right. But we didn't see it. Right. I didn't see that. All I was thinking is, so there's so much happens, right? A guy gets kicked in the nuts. I'm like, oh, shit. Is he hurt? First question is always, is this going to fuck the fight up? Like, how long is this going to be? Okay, he's got to take a break. Is he going to be okay?
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Especially Gravel Pit. Oh, there it is. This is our theme song, boys. I like it. That's all we got without getting kicked off of YouTube.
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Because I think every time you get kicked in the nuts, one point. Every time you get eye poked, one point. Because even if it's an accident, if you get slammed in your nuts, and then you have to go back to fighting two minutes later, you've been affected. Yeah, no doubt. Two minutes ago, you couldn't even fight.
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And now all of a sudden you're supposed to fight full clip against a guy who's trying to kill you, who just cracked you in the nuts? Who's that? Is that you, Dean? Is that you, Matt? Not me. I'm a professional.
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I'll help you. I'll help you. There's a little button on the top. It should shut it off. Sorry, let me shut this off. All you can do, do not disturb. You know how to do that? No, I don't know how to do that.
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Put it on airplane mode. Open your phone up and then scroll down. Like scroll down from the top and then you can get to airplane mode. No, I would rather just turn it off. Or you can get to do not disturb. All right, just turn it off. How about I put it on the floor and stop on it? Let me see.
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I turned it off. All right. So anyway, we're talking about Alex and Jamal. So we didn't notice it. We didn't notice it because, okay, he gets kicked in the nuts. Like, oh, shit, they stop in the fight. What's going on? So I didn't notice that little hop in. He already did. He already got closer. Yeah, you see now he got the foot on the outside. Yeah. I mean, it's brilliant on his part.
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Right, but Jamal did relax. Look, he relaxed. He straightened his legs. He gave him the thumbs up. Are we cool? And it looked like he was trying to touch gloves. So they touched gloves. But he's already way closer than he's ever been before. Most of the fight up until this point was fought with Jamal about a foot past where they are right now.
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He was in the outside, and he was touching him from the outside, and that was his game plan. I talked to him on the phone about it. He was explaining to me his game plan. Everything was going great. Who, Jamal? Yeah. He had a point.
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Yeah. I called him. He called him. But he's right because we didn't notice it. But this is one of those moments where you're like, are they stopping the fight? No. Okay, they're not stopping the fight. Like, I didn't realize that he made that right. That little hop-hop he does. Yeah. That little hop-hop is legit, dude. It's such a good move. Watch it now.
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Yeah, not hearing anything right now. Oh, for real? All right. We're going to pause real quick, see if Jamie can fix this. We'll pause.
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Watch. So Herb moves to him. He's going to stop the fight. He puts his hand up. Watch this. He touches him. Nope. But look how close he is now. See how close he is now? Yeah, sure. He's a lot closer. Back it up. Back it up. So back it up before the nut shot. Now look at the distance now. See the distance? Big difference. Big difference.
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They throw at the same time. He did throw. But also, look what Alex did, too. It's obvious that Alex is coming in.
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And, dude, his left hook, it's like a shovel hook. Half an uppercut, half a hook, and it's just perfect. Perfect. Perfect.
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No, I'm only kidding. Man, Khalil's dangerous. Remember when Khalil knocked out Gokhan Saki?
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I was like, damn. That off-speed uppercut he threw, that was slick, dude. He's fucking terrifying.
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Well, Khalil's, like, had moments in his career where he hasn't been dialed in. You know, there was a few fights where he admittedly, like, wasn't all in. And now he's all in. Like, now he's, like, super focused. Like, the Anthony Smith fight, you're like, oh, shit. Like, that's a dangerous contender.
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Yeah, but nobody does until they do. Oliveira didn't have it until he got it. Right? Oliveira was a guy that everybody was beating. Man, that's true. So many guys beat Paul Felder, fucked him up. A lot of guys beat him. Tom Swanson knocked him out. A lot of guys have beat Oliveira because he was cutting too much fucking weight. Right. And he just didn't have any energy.
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But we got to show Dean the sheathing. Oh, what is the fucking sheathing? What does that mean? It's when metal rings. We were all talking about it.
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There is nothing wrong with someone who's sensitive who can fuck you up.
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We're not toxic. We just don't have a filter. This is just what actual men are like when there's no one around that can yell at you. When there's no one around that can yell at you. If we had the same conversation with our wives, they'd be like, what the fuck are you saying? Are you thinking that in the fucking air? There'd be a lot of that, right? True, true.
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This is what people would be talking about if you were hanging out in your living room. It's true. Four buddies hanging out in your living room. How would you talk? This is it. Yeah, for sure. Just do it in front of the world.
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The three of us have rings on, but they're rubber. All right, let me see.
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Watching Chimp Crazy. What? There's a show. Oh, my God. There's an HBO show. Well, it's Max now, whatever it is. It's a docuseries about people that own chimpanzees. Dude, it's- That just can't end well. Wait, wait, hold on. What made you cry about that? It's horrific, man. Oh, wait, wait. It went bad? When the chimps tear people apart, they tear your face off. I know. They bite your face?
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They bite your fingers off. They pull your dick off. True. Dude, there's so many moments in that show where you're just like, what the fuck? It's just, it's so sad. Is there anything happy in it or no? No, no, no, no. There's nothing happy in this show. There's nothing happy in this show.
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This show is all about what happens when people have pet chimps and the chimps get to be about five years old and they don't want to listen to you anymore because they're a 200 pound fucking super predator. For real. They can do whatever they want. Like, what they are, they're our closest relatives, and they're really fucking smart.
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And when they get to be, like, five years old, you can't even put them in a combination lock, they were telling me. Because they'll figure out the combination. They'll watch you do it. Oh, shit. And then they'll do it. They'll see what you do to get out, and then they'll replicate it.
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They're really smart, man. They just can't talk. They're not as smart as people, but they also, they're vindictive and spiteful and they're angry and jealous.
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But the thing about these things is when they hit like five, you just got to keep him in cages all the time. So when they're babies, everybody's hanging around with them. You can bring them to the pizza place. Oh my God, it's the lady with the chimpanzee. But then they get to be five and then they rip someone's face off for no fucking reason at all.
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Because that one, these scientists were embedded in this group of chimpanzees for 20 years. So these people, these chimpanzees, their whole lives, they had seen scientists. They had these rules. You have to stay 20 yards away. Don't look them in the eye. No food. Can't have any food anywhere near them. So the gremlins with the chimpanzees, if they decide you have something, you got to see this.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
If they decide that you have something they want, there ain't shit you can do about that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That's how I heard it. The show's so good, dude. This is much better than Chimp Crazy. This is like the opposite of Chimp Crazy. Yeah, this is real shit. Chimp Crazy is sad, but this is amazing. It's amazing. Because these chimps were so accustomed to these scientists that they acted completely normal around them. Like they were just a part of nature to them.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Don't wear a ring to the gym. You could drop a weight on it or rip your finger off. Like, for real.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Because their whole life they had had scientists around them with cameras. It was just a thing in the forest. It was just like that's a different kind of tree or something. As long as you don't have food, as long as you don't look them in the eye, and don't get any closer than 20 yards. Those are the rules. So if the chimps start moving towards you, you move away. Don't look them in the eye.
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You look away. Don't have any fucking food. If you got a candy bar, they'll rip your dick off for that candy bar. They don't have any sense of what's appropriate. There's no remorse. They bite each other's hands off. Oh, my God. Bro, they're ruthless. And that's our closest relative. You know what you do? You just get a dog.
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Who needs that? Who needs that shit? Nobody needs that shit. All that shit you see in those movies, though, those are all young chimps. You can't even train them when they get older.
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Like across the state. And who's that guy's name? Tank Murdoch?
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You know, it's funny because back then you would never think that people were actually having bare-knuckle fights for money. And now it's on pay-per-view. Oh, yeah.
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There was never going to be bare-knuckle boxing. I'll tell you, man. As a sport. That's crazy. So this was just some backyard shit that people would do. Like, this is the big killer. Yeah. This is the guy that's like the big money champion. He's going to eventually fight him. He's watching Clint, and he steps in to help him, and he starts fucking some people up.
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I think the goofiest looking one is the tattooed ring. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That one's goofy. It's almost as bad as the bicep with the fucking chain with the, you know, barbed wire.
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I had no idea. Somebody needs to redo it. Well, all those things he did would work. I mean, it's not crazy. He's not doing any jump split kicks. I used to like these movies as a kid.
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These movies were great. This movie was great. Clint Eastwood was the fucking man. Hell yeah. He has the best Western movie of all time.
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Unforgiven? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. I did see that.
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That one scene made that whole movie. Crazy movie ever.
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When he's looking, he's like, I'm Johnny Bear.
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Yeah, it's like a Western horror Indians almost like predators Well, they're completely different like a different species of person they have these things in their windpipes Matthew Fox in this
The Joe Rogan Experience
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I've never seen this. It's a great movie. It's a fun horror movie. And the fact that it didn't get the attention that it deserves. It's just, I think there's too many movies out. I never heard of this show. That's true. There's too many shows. There's so much stuff. Everybody's like, have you seen this show? It's like, man, I can't watch everything. I love Shogun. I haven't finished it.
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Me neither. Yeah, me neither. For sure.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Bro, I just blew right through Peaky Blinders. Peaky Blinders? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I saw that. It's fucking amazing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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I love the first season, man, but it gets hot after that. How good is it? Tom Hardy and Peaky Blinders. That motherfucker can act. Man, can he act. He's like on a totally different level. Like even just everything about it. You buy that eccentric psychopath. You buy it. You buy everything about it. He's got rules. Yeah, for sure.
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No, he's in this guy's asshole right now. Look, he's touching his asshole. He's in the guy's asshole right now. No, it's like a hamster. Wait a minute. This is a real scene in the show? They're trying to normalize this. Exactly. This is a bizarre agenda. This is exactly what I'm talking about. This is an asshole. He's inside an asshole and he's naked.
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And so then he came full size. He turned full size and he blew the guy apart.
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Kind of crazy. Picture a human centipede.
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Kind of a crazy way to die. I want to see him explode. So what happens? Does he just decide to get bigger?
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Dude, I'm trying to explain that to the cops. And then multiple, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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So now he's coming back with a pink eye. 100% someone's trying to normalize things like that. Because that's probably like every bottom's dream is to actually climb inside a guy's asshole. I just want to be inside of you. Just get all up in there.
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That's unnecessary. I would tap out after that. I tapped out on The Walking Dead when they killed Glenn with the baseball bat. In Venice.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Oh, I'm sure they did. You didn't have to show it to me like that. It's murder porn. That's murder porn. I loved Glenn. I saw Glenn at the UFC, and he looked sad. He looked sad because they killed him off with a fucking baseball bat. But did you imagine that's your character? Your character for all these years, everybody loves it, and then they kill him off with a baseball bat, and you're like...
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And then no more show. Bye. Bye. We're done with you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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Well, you can't keep doing that. Oh, the people are the monsters. You can't keep doing that forever. It gets boring. Figure it out. Find out who the cunts are. Kill them. Let's start a community.
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I like that first season. And also, why are there still zombies? They walk two miles an hour. You haven't killed them yet? I know, right? How hard is it to figure out how to kill these things? They're so easy. They're slow as fuck. All you need is that lady with the sword and just, like, every day run out, kill 30 of them. Eventually, yeah. Nobody's going to be left.
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It's just crazy that they still run into zombies. You haven't killed all the zombies in, like, five years.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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There's a bunch of spinoffs. There's the L.A. one, too. The L.A. spinoff, too. It was pretty good. It was Fear of the Walking Dead? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. That might have been the best one. Really? Yeah, it was really good, especially in the beginning.
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It was really good because it was like no one knows what the fuck is going on, but it gave you a real sense of dread and fear, like these people are trapped in the middle of this outbreak and the military moves in and no one gives anybody any answers, which is really how it would go. Right, yeah. The L.A. one, Fear of the Walking Dead, is much more realistic. This is how it would go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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The guy waking up in the hospital in The Walking Dead, the problem with that scene... is 28 days later. That's how it starts. Same exact scene. 28 days later, Killian Murphy, also from Peaky Blinders, he's in the hospital and he wakes up. He doesn't know what the fuck happened because he got hit by a car or something like that. Was he riding a bike, got hit by a car, I think.
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Yeah, I heard about a dude in, God, I forget who's gym, some big-name dude, and he took a photo of one of his students and said, don't ever come onto my mat with a ring on, ever.
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So he wakes up, he has no idea what the fuck's going on. And then getting out of the hospital, he realizes that the world has ended and there's a zombie apocalypse had broken out while he was in a coma.
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Somebody stole it. Well, what came out first? The comic book or the fucking- That's a very good question. It's a very good question. What year did The Walking Dead graphic novel come out? That's a legit question there, man. It's a real legit question. Thanks, guys. Do you know those movies? You can't find them on streaming? You can't find 28 Days Later on streaming.
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They're coming out with a new one, by the way. I think you can find 28 Weeks Later, but 28 Days Later, I don't think you can find. Because I just bought it. I ordered it on DVD. I haven't bought a DVD.
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Because they asked me if I wanted one, and I said, yeah, I'll take one of them. And I haven't used it ever. I've been in this house for four years. I never used that fucking DVD player, but I'm going to use it. You can still get Blu-rays. Especially, they look really good. Blu-ray, high resolution. Those DVDs, it's probably as good or better than streaming.
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I had that for a long time, though, because I used to get all the Pride videos on VHS. I used to get K1 videos and shit, all the weird shit from Japan from a friend of mine. He would send it all on VHS. What year was the graphic novel?
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That's all my next watch. I was trying to look it up when you were asking. Is that a monster movie or a zombie movie?
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Oh, look at this. The Day of the Triffids? What the fuck? What is a Triffid?
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During his recovery, he was told of an unexpected green meteor shower. What?
The Joe Rogan Experience
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This is what happens, and he posted it. I don't remember who posted it, but fuck, man. It's like you can't... It's just too dangerous. You basically have a metal wedge on your finger. If you do anything heavy, if you're in the outdoors, if you're climbing something, it can just dig right into your meat and rip your fucking finger apart.
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But I loved it so much that I just. Sorry. So why has 28 Days Later been removed from streaming? It says, indeed, Disney lost the rights to the independently financed original film, with them now only owning the rights to Searchlight Finance sequel 28 weeks later. So, well, who the fuck owns it? Whoever made it, I guess. And what, they don't want to put it on Netflix? Why wouldn't they?
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It's one of the best zombie movies of all time.
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Yeah Is there anybody left yeah, I think it's that guy the Peaky Valley the guys What kind of life is that? What kind of life is it like if some fucking Wuhan China lab comes up with some zombie virus and releases it? That sounds crazy, but rabies is real. That's exactly what rabies is. It's Cujo. Rabies takes animals that never want to bite people.
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and turns them into an animal that needs to bite you. They run at you. They're not scared of you. Rats will run at you. Foxes, they run at you when they have rabies.
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Rabies is just zombies. It is zombie because it kills people. Before we figured out how to stop it, and you have to get those shots before you start having symptoms. They have to find out you got bit and then give you those shots. And it has to happen really quickly. Because if you don't, it kills most people. Jesus. Rabies kills something like 99% of the people that get it. What?
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Yeah, it's an old disease. And so one of the things they figured out is that if they slow down everything in your body and put you into a medically induced coma, it gives your body the resources to fight it off. Because your body can fight it off, but it can't fight it off as quick as the virus moves forward. It's an old virus, man. It's an old, it's a weird one. Oh, that's crazy. Yeah.
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So like when you think about what that is, it's a crazy old virus that spreads itself by making its host violent. It is rage. So saying that no one would ever do this, these fucking psychopath eggheads that they give these grants to that do this fucking gain-of-function research shit on viruses, making them more infectious to human beings, do you think they would stop at a coronavirus?
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He's trying to spread the rabies. He does. You know? I used to say that about Liam Harrison.
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You know that. A reality show with you and Ray Longo cornering fighters and just traveling around and training fighters. You know how big that show would be?
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You're the one who pushed me to do that. Be honest. Listen, you are a natural. Thank you. No.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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This is right up my alley. Are you doing this on YouTube too? Yes, on YouTube. It's the Matt Serra channel. You have it on everything? Spotify? It's going to be on Spotify.
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Very good movie. Very good movie. Real good movie.
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That's a good one to remember. I forgot about that.
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I wonder if that's why you wear a wedding ring on your left hand. Because you shake hands with your rights.
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Yeah. All right, but let me ask you this. Does heat count? Is that a mob movie? You know what? I was thinking about putting it in there, but it's more of a heist movie. It's a heist movie, but it's organized crime. It is. The guy who got out of jail, it's based on a real dude. The guy who was the De Niro character who got out of jail, that's based on a real dude. Is it really? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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He did a bunch of robberies, and then he went to jail for a long-ass time and got out and did a bunch more robberies. Was he a mob dude? I don't... He was organized crime, for sure, but it's like... Who was he connected to? Was he connected to the mafia? Was he independent, organized crime? But he was, like, super sophisticated.
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Right. That probably does. By the way, it's literally in the title. Also, in the title, it says gangster.
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That's an honorable mention. That was a great movie. That's a fucking great movie. And also based on a real dude.
The Joe Rogan Experience
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So they didn't show it in the movie, but that was how it was written?
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Did they just edit that out of the movie?
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Was it in the movie? I don't believe so.
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Imagine you're doing that. You're doing this all coked up character and he's doing coke and then they cut out all the coked out.
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Yeah, for sure. I mean, just think about how many ridiculous crimes get cooked up while they're on meth, literally. Or to get the meth. Right, yeah, yeah. Meth influence. Do you remember that North Hollywood shootout? It was just like the movie Heat.
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These dudes had body armor. They had, like, fucking big giant machine guns and shit. Oh, yeah.
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Apparently they were roided out of their fucking minds. These dudes are roided out of their minds doing coke, and they robbed this bank in North Hollywood, and the cops boxed them in. They had a shootout on the street. Oh, yeah. I was on news radio at the time. We stopped production of the show to watch it on television. Really.
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Real close. Real close. We were in Studio City. North Hollywood's 15 minutes away, 10 minutes away. Real close. In the middle of the street.
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The footage is crazy. And here's what's crazy. One of the cops shot one of the dudes and then did not call for ambulance. And then people were criticizing him that he let the guy bleed out.
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Yeah, I remember these fucking crazy liberals. They were criticizing him because this psychopathic murderer who just robbed a bank was gunning down cops because he let them bleed out and didn't get them to an ambulance in time. Shit. Yo. Exactly.
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I like a firm handshake. I like a man with a firm handshake.
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See if you can find that, Jamie, because it's crazy to watch, man. It was... I found the best footage on it. In the middle of the street, dude. In the middle? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So these guys were having a shootout. This guy's walking down the street, fucking just blasting. It's like a movie. Yeah, like a fucking movie.
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Shooting at cops, dude. And this is just one part of it. Sometimes he was ducking behind cars with giant rifles and shit. I mean, they were just armed to the tits. This is him at the end. So I think at the end, he's probably trying to die.
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i forgot how it ends oh we got him with another shot that keeps going because then the other guy comes so he's trying to die he's probably already been shot this guy's doing a little gta action now this it went on for a long time too and this is back when if something happened they would we interrupt general hospital To show you the Hollywood shootout. Hollywood shootout?
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I like a firm handshake, but I don't like that finger-squeezing bullshit because that's cheating. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agreed, agreed. You know I don't have a good grip when you're squeezing anyway. That's a douchebag move. A nice person would relax their hand, you slide it out of your position, and you give each other a nice firm handshake. That's right.
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Bro, this is in the caveman days. I lived in the caveman days. Yo, what year was this? This is like 97. Oh, 97? Yeah. Really? Oh, I thought it was. See, I don't even remember this. Yeah, I remember it big time. Yeah, I do too. Because it was crazy. Because I have a friend, my friend Justin, he's always said, he goes, dude, let me tell you something.
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Six armed dudes that know what the fuck they're doing could take over a whole city. I was like, really? He goes, cities are so vulnerable. We're so vulnerable. What? Six dudes. Six operators who really know what they're doing.
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Guys who used to work for Blackwater. Yeah. Come over. Yeah. Yeah. He's like, you should be fucking surprised. So when you see something like this happen, it's like, how do they keep these fucking crazy people from... You know, we need to do a better job of finding out where the meth is going. I know. You know, you want to trace illegal aliens, but find out who's bringing in the meth.
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That's why. The people that are making that, they're not using that. They're getting real chemicals. They're getting the real precursors. But you have to get them from, like, China. So they're getting them from China, cooking it up in Mexico, bringing it across the border. Wee! These are the truck stoppers driving all night long.
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I've talked about it a thousand times, but there's a book that we just read. It's called Blitzed. This dude, Norman Oher, it's all about the Nazis.
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Yeah, but apparently what they did was they would give them meth so they could go three days through Poland. So they could just storm through Poland. And so when they did this, no one thought they could get across the whole country in three days. And you really couldn't unless you didn't sleep. So all they did is gave these guys meth. And they gave different doses to different jobs.
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So if you were in the tanks, they gave you the most meth. You're at the front of the line, fucker.
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That's a badass movie. Bernthal? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a good actor, man. He's a good dude, too, man. Very interesting guy. The Punisher. Yeah, he's very smart.
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I had him on the podcast. I'm like, he's a genuine thinker. You know, he really thinks. He's like, sometimes you talk to actors and they're like pretending to be a guy that you would want to talk to.
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That's what it feels like when you talk to them. Like, they're not really there. But John's like right there.
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Oh, fuck. Shot caller with Jamie Lannister.
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Yeah, Rollo, you could be in that movie easily. You'd be part of that fucking Aryan hood. I remember when Keith Jardim beat Chuck Liddell. I was like, wow. Yeah, right? That was a, yeah.
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Houston Alexander one was crazy. Houston, like, smoked. Bro. He did him. He just had a bare-knuckle boxing fight recently. Really? Houston Alexander did. I believe so. He's got to be in his 40s. No, he's got to be in his 50s. He's in his 50s. It's either bare-knuckle boxing or maybe, like, celebrity boxing. I forget. Some kind of boxing thing he just did.
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But Houston Alexander in his prime was terrifying. Yeah, he was. He was terrifying. Yeah, he had some hands on him. He had crazy power.
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Oh, he's built for it. Yeah. He was a victim of his own success.
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He won. Man, look at them results. He beat Joey Beltran.
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Yeah. Jeremy Smith. Damn, look at him. He's still out there fighting. But he always was in phenomenal shape. That dude was jacked.
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With that Keith Jardine fight, Jardine had him hurt. And so Jardine got a little overzealous and game after him. And Houston Alexander caught him. That was a shocker.
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And then this upstart, this guy coming out of nowhere. I think he was a radio DJ.
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But I think he was a radio DJ at the time. Could you imagine being on the radio and people talking to DJs and shit?
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Yeah, right? It was a radio DJ while he was fucking people up. It's kind of crazy.
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What are you trying to show? Oh, yeah, good.
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Fuck yourself. It's like men feel so uncomfortable when they're around a guy like you. They don't know how to behave. Can I grab some coffee? Yeah, it's for you. I'm doing like a sneak. Do you want an espresso or do you want a cup? There's a cup because it's just regular coffee. Oh, that's a lot better. Yeah, I make a mess.
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You could have too much. You know, you can have too much bravado. You can have too much crazy and then it'll ruin your life. Yeah. And there's like every fighter has a certain amount of crazy. And some guys keep their crazy charmed. They keep it all locked up. They keep it locked up in a fucking behind that mask. But some guys, their crazy burns them down. It burns down everything around them.
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And then, you know, you got the CTE. And CTE comes into play, then there's a lot of guys that just get real impulsive. They become addicts. They fuck up all relationships. They can't keep their shit together. They're either crying or they're angry.
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There are guys that are bad eggs, but there are guys for sure that are bad eggs that then get CTE.
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You know. It was like... A bad one, too. Beating to death.
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Because, like, you know, when they get around a guy like you, they don't know what to do. Because guys, like, always like to pretend that they could beat another guy's ass. Even to just posture and go, oh, fuck that guy up. They meet a guy like you, all of a sudden they're like, hey, how are you? Nice to meet you.
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But I would imagine that he would lose his cool if anybody challenged him. A male. A male. I just never thought that he would do that.
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The whole thing, it's just awful. Every part about it is awful. Press the hell out of me. And how many guys that...
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are doing this like have also experienced that in their life like seeing their mother been beaten been beaten by their father grew up in an abusive household where everybody hits everybody there's a lot of kids unfortunately in this world that grow up with parents beating the shit out of them and beating the shit out of each other yeah and you know if you ever talked to Joe Piper man Joe Piper oh my god that's my guy he was on your podcast reason why he's a fucking assassin
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Right? Because that dude's angry. Angry all the time. He's angry all the time. And he hits like a fucking neutron bomb. He's terrifying.
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Bro, when he banged out Barrio, I was like, Jesus Christ. I mean, with more seasoning. Jack Del... I mean, Jack... Hermanson, yeah. Jack Hermanson fought a beautiful fight. Yeah, he outsmarted him. Outsmarted him, had more time in the game. And Jack's stand-up has gotten a lot better over the years.
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He used to be just this wicked grappler, but he held his own on the feet and won the fight mostly with striking, right? Yeah, for sure. And pace. And just knowing not to empty the gas tank. But Pfeiffer is so scary that he gets everybody out of there so quick.
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The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Oh, man. I promise you that. I believe you 100%. He's terrifying. And a dude like that, he needs a fight like that just to kind of put it in perspective. Yeah, put him in check. He said, all right, I got a lot more to learn. Yeah. You got to learn the gas tank.
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How many guys don't learn the gas tank?
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Incredible. He knew when to put the foot on the gas. I was more impressed with his stand-up than anything.
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You can tell he's a good student, too, man, because every fight you see him. And I think in the Bilal Muhammad fight, early in the fight, he was giving Bilal some trouble standing up. But Bilal just put it. I don't know if Bilal gets nearly the respect he deserves.
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Yeah, Bilal's the man. Bro, the way he put it on Leon Edwards, how the fuck do you not give that guy all the props? Give him all the flowers. He handled Sean, too.
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He stopped Sean standing up. And then when you see what he did to Leon, you're like, good Lord. It just overwhelmed him. Overwhelming pressure. And on the feet, too. On the feet, yeah. On the feet, real fucking dangerous. Never lets you get set.
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Yeah, man. It's a different kind of fight. Yeah, Leon never found his timing ever. Yeah. And bro, that guy going to Dagestan was like the ultimate move.
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You know what I'm saying? I understand. Flex a little bit. Like, if you're meeting Francis Ngannou, how fucking terrifying is that? Oh, yeah, no doubt. You're right. First time I interviewed him I'll stand next to him like what the fuck man that guy is so powerful He's fighting a guy bigger than him He is good he's like six eight He KO'd Ryan Bader real quick, right? It wasn't like 20 seconds.
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You get involved with Khabib. Especially with his kind of style and his work ethic.
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I also think it's good that he didn't get the props because it keeps him hungry. It keeps you hungry. It keeps you fucking 100%. I'll show you bitches.
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No, no, no. Well, he's just begun, right? So this is a championship run. He proved everybody wrong. He won the title. Tell everybody, fuck you, even though he doesn't even swear. He says fudge. He'll say like fudge you. Yeah.
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He doesn't cuss. But, like, that guy's just beginning his run, you know? So who knows? But that division. Who do you think they give him next? I think they give him Kamara. That's what I thought, too. That's the big money fight. That's what I thought. It's the smart fight. And I think they owe. But they owe Kamaru for Kamaru taking Hamza on 10 days notice. Right.
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And also in a three-rounder instead of a five when he won the third.
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So he's got the L, which is if he's going five rounds, maybe he doesn't get an L. Yeah, I think he doesn't get the L if it was five rounds. It looked to me like he was coming on in the third. He had to figure him out, and also he had to trust his gas tank. The guy trained 10 days, one of the scariest motherfuckers on earth.
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On Earth. I say you got to give it to Kamaru because I think Kamaru earned it from that alone.
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You're done already. 100%. And he had to know, like, how much do I have? Like, how do I manage this? But he did manage it. He didn't get stopped. He didn't get finished. And then he comes on and wins the third round. You got to go, come on, man. You won't have any more years of Kamaru. He's like 37 now.
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Just give him the title shot. Is he 37?
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See, give it to him. Give it to Kamaru.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
We can't— Exactly. I send him—every time I find something on stem cells, I send it to him. Do you? Yeah, because they're regenerating cartilage now.
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You should do it. I'm thinking about that.
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We'll get you in at 5.30. Stem cells. I might be able to get you in this afternoon. Yeah. Really? Let me see. I think I gotta go to Columbia for that shit. No, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no, no. Ways to Well can do stuff here. They do different things in Columbia. In Columbia, what they can do is they can multiply the stem cells. So they can take stem cells.
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They do that in the CPI down in Tijuana. That's the place. And they have a whole arrangement with the UFC. They have a partnership with the UFC. CPI is incredible. They're in Tijuana.
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Stem cells are absolutely legit. Yeah. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Well, you can, but it's going to be harder. Yeah, but are you rolling with it? It's going to take some time. It's a complicated joint. But do you do anything to strengthen your shoulders? Do you do any workouts? I mean, no.
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Anybody that has shoulder problems. I have no affiliation with these people. Get yourself crossover symmetry bands. Get yourself these bands. They start with like five pounds or something like that. I use a 25-pound one. It's not a lot of force. And I do a series of exercises just to stabilize my shoulders. A whole series of different things that I do.
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Every week no matter what I do this is like that thing with the coils back in it is but it's just it's like a bungee cord it's like a cord like a you know rubber strap that you're pulling on Different ones have different weights to them so you can start off low But the whole idea is there's a whole chart that comes with it and shows you all the different thing and it just strengthens all the shit that you don't strengthen when you're just lifting weights, okay, and
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If you're just lifting weights or especially if you're just rolling, how often are you really using those shoulder muscles? You're using everything, right? So are your shoulder muscles getting a good workout or is your cardiovascular system and your legs and your biceps and your back, that getting a good workout? But you're going to miss some muscle groups. Jiu-jitsu misses muscle groups.
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And the only way to like really strengthen joints, I think, is exercise. And I think you got to do weights and bands and a bunch of shit just to protect your joints. That's like that knees over toes.
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That knees over toes guy got a whole shoulder bulletproofing program too with like light dumbbells where you're doing a bunch of these things. Yeah, I love his knee shit.
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And that's for you. That's all. It's all. I'm like, golly. Isn't it crazy how some dudes just have crack? Just have some extra crack. I'm telling you, Joe Pfeiffer, extra crack. Yeah, for sure. Extra crack. For sure. I wouldn't want to hold paths with that, dude. You're going to get carpal tunnel syndrome. Yeah. And that's what happened to me all in one week. Matt Serra, you had extra crack.
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Extra crack. You had a thing where you would catch people and you would see this like, oh no, look on their face. Like when you caught GSP, I remember thinking like this, because we already knew by then that you could knock people out with one shot, which was so odd for a jujitsu guy.
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Dude, he hit him with a clean right hand. Let's watch that because this guy's good, dude. This is a dangerous fight.
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So like everybody had to worry about your ground game, but they always have to worry about being in the pocket because one of those hammers drops in there. You got a real problem on your hands. I ain't gonna lie, when I fought Matt, I was like, ain't gonna let him hit me with that right hand. Ain't gonna take me down before that. It's a little fire plug.
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It's a thing, but you didn't have a background in striking as a child, right?
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I think there's something to it for transitions. Me too. I think there's something to having all those moves. Think about how many times you see boxers literally swat a guy's hand down to land a punch. Oh, the pucks out.
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But by itself, it's shit. Of course, but Taekwondo by itself is shit, too. Everything by itself is shit. Exactly. All those things by themselves. But I think I knew a dude who was really good at Wing Chun, and he was explaining some things to me.
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And some of the things that he was showing me, there's certain vulnerabilities if you're inside with someone where they can really easily manipulate your arms back and forth and move your guard around and drop elbows on you. Like Wing Chun and then Muay Thai, you see some of the Muay Thai stuff where guys grab wrists and come over the top. There's a lot. That's a lot of Wing Chun.
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I've never seen the size of him. After a bad KO, you have to think, he fights Anthony Joshua. That was a bad KO from one of the best knockout artists in boxing, right? How tall?
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I've seen a few of those. I've seen a few of those.
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Well, that's the difference between guys who are pretty good and guys who can be champions. It's like this ability to absorb other skills and then implement them at a world-class level while you're an adult, which is crazy. It's not easy to do. It's crazy. It's very hard to do. And most guys, they, like, are always going to be a step behind the guys who started out as a child.
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And he's athletic, too. He's really athletic, too.
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Yeah, no, shut up, Mark Delegretti. He's a great dude and a great coach, too. I love training with him. He showed me all kinds of things that tightened up my technique, all kinds of things, all kinds of things just in transitions, like transitional techniques, like different things to do off of different kicks. and shit.
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Super fast, man. And he does a lot of wild shit. He throws a lot of kicks and knees. Dude, he's good. How much taller is he than? A few inches. I think Francis is like 6'4". 6'5". Is he? Something like that. This guy's taller. Francis is bigger, though, for sure. But this guy's fucking dangerous, man. And he's real long. Like, watch this combination when he lands it on Bader.
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I try to hurt him. You try to hurt him? I try to hurt those arms. Oh, yeah. I want to hurt those four arms.
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Yeah, he did. He's a man. He's a man. And he's a great coach. And, you know, speaks Thai fluently. Does he really? I didn't know that. Fluently. Fluently. Speaks Thai. Oh, that's wild, man. Yeah, he can go to Thailand and just talk to people. No kidding. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got Thai restaurants, and he just orders Thai to the way. With a Boston accent? Yeah, he does.
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Yeah, with a Boston accent, yeah. Oh, yeah, you can tell it's Mac De La Grata. That's funny. Yeah, he does. He speaks Thai. Yeah, he fought in Thailand a bunch. Yeah, I knew that, but I didn't know he spoke Thai. He's an interesting dude. Very interesting dude. Are we breaking out the smelling salts? Are you scared? I am scared. He's waiting. Hold on, so what do they do?
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This is the strongest shit. I know what they do. I mean, maybe there's some stronger shit that I'm not aware of, but this is Jujimufu should give us like a discount code. Who? It's called Ah. This dude, Juju Mufu, do you know who he is?
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Crazy athletic, but built like Bobby Lashley. He can do full splits over tables.
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While he's doing 500-pound overhead squats. Oh, shit. Bro, he's crazy flexible. And he weighs a thong. He's a nut. He's a nut. He's always doing nutty shit for the internet.
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No, no, no. I think you need some other things. I'm afraid of my stomach.
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You take the smelling salts before you go across the border with 15 pounds of steroids.
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No, no, no, no, no. So, again, this is a fresh one. The fresh ones are the strongest. Jesus Christ. This is so strong that I'm going to open it. It's a sealed bottle. The bottle's sealed, and the bag is sealed, too. God damn it, my hands are sweaty. This stinks already. Just smell it. It stinks already. I haven't even opened the bag yet. The bag is still sealed. You guys are going to find out.
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The bag is still sealed. So I'm going to open this and just... Okay. Smell that. Smell that. Just get a whiff, and it's sealed inside the bag.
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This is fully sealed. Fully sealed. You got it? Right, right, right? But you're not even ready yet. You don't even know what's happening now.
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Yeah, that's... This is where it goes on.
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Let's go! Ready? Here we go. Oh, we're going, it's not kind of clockwise. Take a big, deep, deep, deep breath. A few inches from the nose and just go for it. Oh, that's a little Vicks Vapor Rub. Oh, my God. Rallo probably did it this morning before he woke up. Yo.
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Best opening scene of any superhero movie of all time.
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No. You can't fuck with this. They cannot fuck with the opening scene in Blade when they all turn into vampires. And he thought he was going to fuck Tracy Lourdes. Oh, yeah. So he's down there hanging out with Tracy Lourdes, and he doesn't know she's a vampire. And she leads him down to this basement where he sees bodies hanging from meat hooks. He's like, what the fuck is this place?
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And then the sprinklers start spraying blood, and everybody turns into a vampire around him. And he's freaking out, and he's trying to get out of there. And she's like, hey, baby.
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And he gets his ass kicked, and they're all beating him up, and they're about to kill him. Snipes shows up. So is Wesley Snipes back as Blade? They're going to have him back as Blade now, right?
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See, Bader can't close the distance here. This guy's from the outside, son. Look at that right hand.
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Thank God. They should have brought him back as Blade right when he got out of prison. You didn't like Sticky Fingers? Here it is. This is the scene. Like, oh shit, it's the Daywalker. They're like, oh no. Come on, bro. It's the greatest scene. The greatest scene in any martial arts slash superhero movie ever. Then he fucks everybody up, of course. That was great.
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It's got to be good for your sinuses. Yeah, I was about to say that. I think it's good for America. I think it's good for everything. I think it's good for everything. We have them at the studio, or at the comedy club. Dudes take smells before they go on stage. Oh, really? Yeah, it's fun. Pass it around the room. Let me try, let me try.
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The stuff we have at the comedy club, though, is not this strong. This is the strongest one. This one fucks you up. The other ones you can kind of get in there a little bit.
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Watch that again. That shit was perfect. Watch that again. Look at the timing on this guy, man. Watch this. Bader's trying to close. He's trying to close. Check out this. Watch this. Fade away a little to his left. Boom! Oh! I mean, that's right over top of the jab. Right over the jab. That guy can do that to anyone. That guy's dangerous, man. He's fucking dangerous.
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You get too close with that one, and it'll burn the inside of your head. I like it. I felt that. I felt it in my brain. You want to go round two? Do it, man. I went round two. I feel like that's what happens. You want to go round three? That's what happens with everybody. Everybody, they get it, and they're like, wow, that was terrible. That was terrible.
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One more time. You do threes with the Aussies?
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Yeah, I backed off because I was realizing I think I like these things too much. Especially gets the body to hit a little adrenaline. Oh, really? That does. Yeah, we're talking about the nicotines doesn't. Oh, no, no. I like the nicotines, though. I like them when I'm having conversations. What'd you do to me now? They're good. I don't think it's bad. I just think you got to be careful. Why?
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I like to take days off, see if it's freaking me out. So far, no problems.
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Oh, this is dying out. Yeah, if you keep the lid off. It's dying out already. In between uses, keep it. But I think it's, you know, it's probably. Jesus. How consistent are they with this batch? Dean, you're doing everything.
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I'm feeling emotional. Khalil's going to be mad at you. I'm feeling emotional right now. I love Khalil Rountree. Nah, nah, I don't want Khalil Rountree kicking me.
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Khalil, I'm sorry. I just wanted to tell you, I'm sorry. But that is going to be a wild fight. I'll tell you what. That's going to be a wild fight. It's going to be fan-friendly for sure. Yeah, Khalil has probably never shot a takedown in his entire career. I think Khalil can win, too.
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Well, he puts himself. He's got that crazy style, man. That style, that snake-like style that he has. And he just kind of holds his hands right here and just like, bop, bop.
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You've seen him sparring right you've seen some of those videos in his farm like really good boxers man He stay in the pocket with him too, and that style is hard to handle because it's so weird They're used to everything like that one boxer that he was Training with is like I don't know if he's professional He's but he's a big heavyweight very skillful, but everything was like real traditional right and then you see Pereira's moving at you like a cobra like it's so hard to figure out what the fuck he's doing and you're lucky He's not kicking you you know he's just punching this dude and
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If he lands, everybody goes night-night.
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Everybody goes night-night. That guy's fast as fuck. I know. And he fights angry. How old is Pereira? They're both about the same age, I believe.
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How old is Khalil? I think Pereira's 35, and I think Khalil is probably in that same range. Alex is 37.
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He has some damage, though. Some kickboxing fights. Yeah, that's true. And, you know, the one with the bad one with Izzy, that was a bad one. That was a bad KO. And that's a weight-drained KO, you know? Yeah, definitely. KO at 85. I mean, just Izzy caught him with that perfect right hand.
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I think, this is my opinion, with Roy, what happened was he went up and he fought John Ruiz. And then he went down and he fought Tartt.
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He was not the same. I think... And I don't know, but I would imagine if you want to get really big, there's not a lot of ways to get really big. How do you go from 168 to 200 pounds? How do you do that? Well, you lift some weights. Get a little help. You got some friends. So then you have to get off of that, and then you have to drop 25 pounds from your body.
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So your body's fully acclimated to this new frame. That's a hard cut. If you look at the way he looked pre-Tarver fight, if you go back and watch him fight James Toney when he was in his prime, you watch him fight some of the better fights of his career, like the Vinny Pazienza fight where he didn't get hit with one punch.
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But Bader and Heavyweight's been doing pretty good. Especially under them Bellator testing. What kind of test is that? That's a multiple choice test. How many times did Bobby Lashley compete? No disrespect to Bobby Lashley. But still. We know what's up. He was always on an Indian reservation somewhere.
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His left bicep is twice as big as his right. But when you see him after the Tarver fight, he looks way more smooth. I think that cut was hard, man. I think that cut was hard. And then he probably got off whatever he got on. Yeah, for sure. And then your system's not working right. And if you don't have a good doctor and you're just trying to do this with gym bros...
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He was getting that real bad. That was a bad one. And that was off the Tarver fight, right? And so you see, like, all of a sudden, this dude just can't take a shot anymore. And Glenn Johnson, who was one of those unheralded, dangerous dudes that could really kind of beat anybody. That crazy clamshell style.
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I don't know. Kawasaki didn't knock him out, right? He shut him out, though. He shut him out. Kawasaki's tough. Kawasaki would just throw volume at you.
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He was in his face like, whoo. Yeah. Different Roy Jones, though. Different Roy Jones. I mean, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah. If you fought the Roy Jones that James Toney had a fight, then... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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That guy had power, power. Play that. Play the Terry Norris fight. Julian Jackson, Terry Norris.
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Terry Norris and Julian Jackson and Terry Norris.
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No one. Short punches, too. Just black. That was tough. I used to love him. Yeah. Orlin Norris, he was good, too. Oh, yeah. His brother was a heavyweight, and he was 47. I remember. I remember. 47-54, right? But watch this Julian Jackson KO. It's so crazy because it's like he just shuts him off.
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Oh, this is a prime Terry Norris. This is a prime Terry Norris. This is a dangerous Terry Norris here. But he just catches him. Watch this. Okay, so that was the first one. So you heard him with that left hand, but he catches him with the right hand and just freezes him.
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Just a pure one-punch fighter. I know. Some guys just like to hit him. Look at him stalking. I would be terrified. He's waiting to hit you with it. I would be terrified if that guy was stalking me like that. It's just he knows. All he has to do is get you once. And every time he hits you, you know it too because you're like, oh, shit. This is fucking terrifying.
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So he's already softened him up, and there it is. Oh, man. Oh, man. He took two more. He didn't need two. He took two more. He was out on his feet, bro, and those were wind-up ones. The last two he took were wind-up ones.
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Oh, they fought twice. Gerald McClellan fought Terry Norris? Julian Jackson. Oh, that's right. But that's when Julian went up, right?
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So was Julian a middleweight at this time? I believe so. Because the crazy thing is, like, I didn't know that Gerald McClellan and Julian Jackson were at the same weight class.
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McClellan, though, was like 175, though, right? At the MGM. McClellan was so dangerous, man.
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Because I know they were trying to set up – Middleweight. Crazy. So that's – So that's before, well, they were talking about a Roy Jones Jr. fight. And I think he was really struggling.
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What a body. Bobby Lashley's the only guy I've ever fought in MMA that looked like he'd enter a bodybuilding competition the day of the fight. Mark Kerr in his prime, too.
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Well, there was a nasty headbutt in that fight, too. But it's also Nigel Benn came back from that first round. Oh, look at that KO.
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Yeah, but I mean, it's like that and the little sides you need them cut. Oh, my God. Gerald McClellan just coming after you for the kill. Terrifying. That's it. Are they going to let him count?
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Well, he was one of the scariest punchers of all time.
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But he's another guy who tried to empty the gas tank with Nigel Benn in that first round, and Benn survived, and then he winds up having that brain bleed. Yeah. That's one of the scariest ones ever, man, because is this the rematch? Okay, let's watch this execution. I remember this. I was at this one. This was in Vegas? Yeah, MGM.
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Well, once John McClellan knew that he could put it on you, it's like his power was just so nuts for that weight class. But I always wanted to know, like, what does he really weigh? He's like one of those Benavidez guys. Like, when you get in there, what do you really weigh? Because he really struggled with the weight cut. And that's one of the – oh, my God, right away.
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He gets them early in this one. Oh, my God, just teeing off, dude, teeing off. That shot to the body.
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Just getting executed. Every shot's got murder on it. Oh, that left to the body. Oh, my goodness. The power in these fucking punches, man. Just overwhelming. Liver shot. They're giving him a standing eight. Isn't that crazy? Standing eight count is kind of nuts. It's the dumbest rule ever. It's kind of nuts.
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Let me give you eight seconds to clear your head and get concussed more. MMA is the way to do it. It really is.
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Yeah. Yeah. What do you think about red cards or yellow cards? I think they should bring them back.
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What would he say? Catch! Catch! Catch! Yeah, when someone caught something. Yeah.
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I mean, I'm on that side. Lopez went through a roller coaster ride in his last fight. I know. Imagine that. You got three different opponents. You got three different weight classes. Everything's changing. Well, you got two different opponents, right? But a bunch of different weight classes. And then Ortega can't make it.
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And so Ortega steps out, and then he winds up fighting Dan Ige, 50K Ige, on like 40 minutes notice. Dan was just chilling at his house.
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It was same-day weigh-in, yeah. Which is crazy. Which is really, like, no one should be cutting weight, kids.
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I think what they really should do, they really should do, is just find out what you fucking actually weigh and just stop this nonsense. It should be looked at the same way steroids are looked at. It should be looked at the same way all other kind of cheating is looked at. It's sanctioned cheating. It is. You're not really 155 pounds.
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He's a legit fighter. Legit fighter. But there ain't no way he tested positive or negative. Yeah, because he wrestled at like 189 in college. Also, he's 48. Whoa. You know, but look, no disrespect. Guy looks fucking great. It's amazing some guys are natural, like Paulo Costa. He's just got the genes, son.
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Fight there. Exactly. And more options for weight classes.
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Yeah, I mean, this is the reason why McClellan... One of the things they say about head injuries and death in boxing, the vast majority of them don't take place at heavyweight. So the guys who hit the hardest... are not the guys who are getting these horrible brain injuries where they get dead inside the ring.
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They're not cutting weight. And the guys who die a lot, like the Ducku Kims, if you look at the guys who die, a lot of them are cutting.
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How could you be? You killed a guy. A lot of those guys that are dying are dying in the weight classes where they cut a lot of weight.
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There ain't no way Sean Brady's 170. That's what I'm saying.
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They should just be fighting at 190. They should be fighting at 190, and this way they both agree to it.
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But we know what you weigh. Let's just make a fight. Yeah, fuck all this weight cutting. It's just cheating. And also, the fucking drama of seeing if a guy dehydrated himself enough 24 hours before a cage fight is somehow or another interesting to people. Where Daniel Cormier is pushing down on that towel. Remember that shit?
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It's ridiculous. John Jones and Daniel Cormier were both fucking killers. Let them eat. Let them eat. Let them hydrate themselves. Fuck all this weighing in. You know what you weigh. Figure out what you weigh when you make the contract. Yeah, and then just leave it alone. That's what it is. That's what it is, for sure. And be loose about it.
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If a guy's a pound over, a pound under, who gives a fuck? But don't dehydrate yourself.
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How can you take his belt when he's in the hospital for trying to do you a favor? Exactly.
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How are you going to make this fucking guy fight after he almost- They had a statement? Yes. after he's cutting 30 pounds. How are you making him do that? He's cutting 30 pounds in three days. What's their statement? One speaks out. Okay, what do they say? After recent events, we feel it is necessary to provide additional context on Mikey Musumechi's withdrawal from the 168 Denver card.
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Sit Yau Tong and Musumechi, set up Musumechi. Mikey was obviously put in a difficult spot when Cade Rotolo withdrew due to injury when that happened. We worked closely with him and his team on a new opponent. Competing at flyweight was something that he personally requested as he felt confident that he could make the hydrated limit of 135 pounds for a world title defense.
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This is not something we pushed to him to do on short notice or would have ever demanded of a one athlete given how much we prioritize fighter safety. After Mikey failed weight and hydration tests on Thursday, he requested an opponent submission grappling contest against... Roberto Oliveira, and we continue to work with him to try to keep him on the card. Sidion Tong continued on Musumeci.
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He ultimately felt it was his best interest to withdraw from the contest, and we are honoring that. This writing is uncertain when Musumeci will return to one or who will compete for the now-vacant belt. Musumeci was diagnosed with pneumomediastinum. Pneumomedia stinem. A rare condition which air leaks from a part of the lung. Oh, Jesus. Wow.
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What do you think? And he plays it up with the secret juice. I love that shit. I don't think you'd be talking that much shit if you were really just. No, but no. I think. He always looks the same. He never tests positive. And the guy has crazy genetics. Like, look how handsome he is. Look at that broad jaw.
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How do you fucking strip a guy when he winds up in the hospital? He didn't fight. Right, exactly. That doesn't make any sense. Imagine if Alex is fighting Khalil Roundtree and in making weight, he winds up in the hospital and the fight's canceled. He doesn't lose his belt.
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That's crazy. That's what I'm saying. That's crazy.
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It's nonsense. It's terrible. They're always going to fucking do it, though. Yeah, but you know what, man? I think it's a part of the culture that can be eradicated. I don't think it's impossible to eradicate it. That's like saying, oh, they can always do steroids. Well, USADA came along and they fixed that. And now drug-free sport. They fixed it. Most of these athletes are pretty clean.
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There might be a few instances of questionable behavior. Perhaps a trip to a foreign land is difficult to get to. But you're right. For the most part, it is. For the most part.
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The Uber Eam era was the best era. It was an IQ test.
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Oh, how he looks now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now he's on a vegan diet, and he's all spiritual.
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Yeah, he's thinner than he was when he was fighting. That's a weird picture. It's hard to tell from that picture. That's the best one I could find. He looked bigger than the other ones.
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It's hard to tell in that picture. He's always going to be a big guy. You know, he's a massive man. But, you know, when he fought Brock Lesnar, he was just a freak of science. Yeah. He was the freakiest of all freaks. If you just let that dude juice it up like that, that guy back in the day, ooh, he was the most dangerous because those kickboxing skills were top notch.
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Back the old UFC days. I feel like USADA robbed us of the real Uberim. Like if Uberim could have stayed Uber. Yeah. Could have stayed Uber and just continued at 265. Ooh, baby, baby, baby. He'd still be champ. He might be, man. Bro, them kickboxing skills, his kickboxing skills were super legit. I think I was a K-1 Grand Prix champion. Super legit kickboxing skills.
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The guy's got freak genetics just in looks and also in his build.
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He was a good grappler. He won the Abu Dhabi Trials in Europe. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's legit. And, man, that fucking kickboxing, though. Ooh. Ooh.
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It's funny how, you know, you look back on those days, like, especially the juicy days, and you wonder, like... What would the world look like now if we were under the same sort of protocols they were under then? If there was no real – forget about the TRT days because that was – everybody lost their fucking mind. That was crazy. You're allowing guys to juice up. That was crazy.
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But when there was just tests at the weigh-ins, that's a different thing, man.
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A billion times. Never tested positive.
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That's a different thing, just testing at the weigh-ins.
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No randoms? Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's for sure. IVs are fine? Oh, they are? Okay. That's the old days, man.
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Yeah, apparently there's some ways that you can mask. You just overflood your system with fluids, and it cleans out all the traces of whatever metabolites would be in there. I guess there's probably a window where it would get back in your urine.
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Bro, they shouldn't be doing that. They shouldn't be dehydrating themselves 24 hours before a cage fight. But they are. I know, but it seems like, you know, I actually said this to the guys that bought the UFC when I was talking to Ari about it. I was like, dude, this is the first thing you should do. Figure out a way to get rid of the weight classes.
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as they are like whoever is a champion in that keep them as a champion let them defend the belt at what they actually weigh you gotta this weight cutting is the most the thing that's gonna fuck us more than anything is just somebody gets really badly hurt because they had a really bad weight cut like you know guys have kidney failures for sure guys have died
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You lose all the water around your brain when you're taking trauma?
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I think you need one every 10 pounds. But I think we should be a little bit looser on what a person weighs. I think you should make a contractual obligation to fight each other. You find out what a person weighs. His natural weight is 175. Do you want to fight him? Your natural weight is 169. You're agreed that you can't get any higher than 176. Are you cool with that?
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Yeah, okay, I'm cool with that's like total you don't have to think at all about cutting weight at all And so the day before the fight instead of almost dying you're filling yourself up with carbs and nutrients you're relaxing You're gonna have a better performance. It's better for the sport.
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It's better for the health of the athletes It's more representation of what a real 155 pound guy looks like because you see those guys and they get in there and they're 180 like trickus and That is not a 185-pound man. He's fucking massive.
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They need to hydrate you, too. Dudes will fuck around with that. So if we have a hydration thing, like say if you're going to compete, you need to be in shape in your fighting weight, and then we're going to weigh you in. And we're going to check your water levels. We're going to check your hydration. Okay, this is what you actually weigh. You weigh 182 pounds in your prime, ready to go. Okay?
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So this is what you guys are contractually obligated to stay in this range. So you can't get any higher than 183 or 184. You just give them like a two pound, I have to take a shit.
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But they won't be able to stop them if they fucking hydrate test them. So if they show up, you say to a guy, look, we're going to show up, we're going to test you at the weight that you're going to fight at. So you can't get any higher than this, and we're going to make sure that you're not dehydrated.
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So we're going to check you to make sure that you're not fucking around, like pretending that you're 182 pounds. You're really 200, and you dehydrated yourself for the last four hours. Let's find out what you really weigh.
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They should do a little bit more. They should do blood. They should do blood hydration levels. They should check your urine. I think that would cost a lot for the school system to do it.
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What the school system is doing is great. I mean, for the UFC. They just need to be sure. Don't let anybody fuck around like, hey, you showed up at 196. You still want to take the fight? Like, what the fuck? It's 182. What are we doing? Why is it 196?
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I think he has a limit on how much you can gain. I think he has a percentage. Yeah.
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But then you're just making sure the guy's dehydrated because guys are knuckleheads. They're going to dehydrate themselves anyway to have that size advantage. Especially a guy like McClellan who thinks he's going to take you out in the first round anyway. And they're size bullies.
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You should find out what you fucking really weigh and fight at what you really weigh at. It shouldn't be the ultimate weight cutting championship.
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Better for the longevity. Better for the health of your physical body that is literally your weapon of war. For sure. Yes, for everything. Recovery, performance. There'd be better fights.
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The PI can do it. Look, it can be done because if it wasn't and then all of a sudden people started doing it, it would be something people would call out. If nobody ever cut weight and then all of a sudden everybody started cutting weight, everybody would go, what the fuck is this shit? You're not 170 pounds. Why? How are you the 170-pound champion when you weigh 200 pounds?
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Well, it is fair because you're both doing it, but it's not right. It's stupid.
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He's young, hardworking, and he's on his way up. Bro, he's got a double-sized back. When you're behind him, his back's like... Yeah, he looks like he's got a turtle shell on him. Yeah, it's like it's double-sided.
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So all you need is 10 pounds. Every 10 pounds. We go 170 goes to 175, 85, 95, 205, maybe 225. That's what I say. And then it's super heavy. As big as the fucking guy is. That's right. Because I don't like this 265 bullshit either. I agree. Rob, when was the last time you weighed 265?
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Yeah. But when you're the biggest, well, you were.
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So you would have to lose a fuckload of weight. You'd have to lose 40 fucking pounds. That's crazy.
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That's crazy. That's so hard to do. Like, when you got a guy like Ngannou that is a natural 265, which is nuts. Like, he falls right there. Like, right in the hot zone. Like, a natural shredded 265. But that's what he really weighs. That's his actual weight. And it's obvious. You can see it. He's not cutting weight. That's his actual weight.
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Yeah, I don't think they have a super heavyweight. I don't think anybody has an active super heavyweight division in MMA that I'm aware of. No big organization. I don't think PFL has it.
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Right. They had Gabby Garcia fight housewives.
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Yeah, he leg locked him. Bro, Butterbean could crack. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember that time when he had a boxing match against some football player? Somebody let some poor football player have a boxing match with Butterbean. It might have been a celebrity boxing match, and Butterbean knocked him into another dimension.
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Because he's so big, he ain't going to distance. 450 fucking pounds.
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What a goddamn nightmare that guy was. You couldn't hit anything on him.
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It's like he had 150 sweaters on. You're not going to hurt him.
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Royster? Oh, so this is a kickboxing match, which is nuts.
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Is this a football player he's fighting?
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Oh, well, it might have been. It might have been a football player who trained MMA.
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Oh, nice knee to the body. He's big enough. See if you could find there was a boxing match that he had against some football player dude.
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Oh, celebrity boxing. That's probably it. Yeah.
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This poor dude. This poor dude got shot into another dimension. Oh, he looks like he's about to go out. He looks like he's getting shot into another dimension. Deserves it for that fucking stash. This is one of them guys that, you know, somebody should have told him. Like, this is a bad idea. Eventually this fucking crazy looking dude is going to catch you. We're one of these meat bombs.
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He's going to hit you right in your porn stash.
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Right? There's a thing about winning with a porn stash. But you get KO'd with a porn stash on. They don't feel sympathetic to you. You stupid ass with that mustache. See if you can find out where this ends. Yeah, Butterbean.
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Oh, so does he stop him here? Maybe this is a different guy.
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This guy played football. The guy that I saw him kick. Oh, oh. Oh, there it is. Oh, man. That was pretty good. Yeah. He can punch, dude. He can punch. It was just crazy to watch a guy who was only willing to fight four rounds. King of the four-rounders.
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This is a place for everything, right? Like the bare-knuckle thing. We were talking about Mike Perry before we started doing this. That's the perfect spot for that dude. He should have told Jake Paul, listen, we need to fight, but let's do bare-knuckle, pussy.
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It's a different thing, man. It's a different thing with that guy.
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Yeah. But you know, you got to take that payday. I mean, what did he make out of that fight? He probably made 10 million bucks or something crazy.
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Tommy Fury. Very good fight. Very good fight. You know, I think he's like any other young up-and-coming boxer. It's just everybody dismisses him because he's a YouTuber. For sure.
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I really hope he doesn't knock Mike Tyson out. To me, I'd just be real bummed out to see Mike get KO'd at 58 years old. At 60, basically.
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Right. You know what I'm saying? Like, why are we letting this happen? It's kind of crazy.
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He is perfectly capable. If he zigs when he should have zagged, if Mike can close the distance in a way that he doesn't expect. And Mike also has layers upon layers of attacks that are in his mind. He's forgotten more about boxing than Jake Paul has ever remembered. Yeah.
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It's really nice. It's amazing. It's one of the very best ever on the ground in MMA. It's like we've just seen it in so many stand-up wars because it's so fucking hard to get people to the ground. Right, right, right. I love this jiu-jitsu. Ultimately, that's where it becomes a problem, right? It's just so hard to get a world-class guy to the ground.
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Also, how does he feel now? He might have been excited when he said he wanted to do it, but how does he feel now? You've got months and months and months of this. I just want to see something other than his mitts. Does he wish he didn't say yes to it? How's his health? How's his back? How's his knees?
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Imagine he knocks him out. He's a monster. Look, at the end of the day, Mike Tyson's a monster. And if he can get that monster to just move in and close the distance. And if he uncorks a boom on Jake Paul and watch Jake Paul going to Queer Street, that will be wild. To watch a 58-year-old Mike, that would be best case scenario for the world. I agree. For sure.
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Worst case scenario is someone gets hurt.
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Yeah, best case scenario is Jake Paul realizes immediately he's in there with Mike Tyson. That Mike Tyson, at least for a round or two, he'll be Mike Tyson.
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It's going to be interesting to see what happens. How many rounds is it? I think it's eight. Eight two-minute rounds. That are two minutes? Yeah, I think they're doing two-minute rounds. Do they have 10-ounce gloves or 12-ounce gloves, Jeremy? It's a lot better than two-minute rounds. I think they're making them have slightly bigger gloves. 14-ounce. 14 ounces. That's so sparring gloves.
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And it's not sanctioned, right? It can't be sanctioned. It's sanctioned. It's sanctioned?
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Texas. Yeehaw. Same place you can own a giraffe. That's funny. My wife was driving home one day. She saw a zebra. Same place has more tigers than anybody. She goes, there's a zebra loose. I go, welcome to Texas, baby. A zebra? Yeah, you can have a zebra here. Some dude's zebra got out.
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You can't smoke a joint. There's more tigers in captivity in Texas in private collections than in all of the wild of Earth. How is that true? Yes, that's true.
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Because they fence them in, bro. That's it? So how big are these tigers? They're tiger tigers. Real tigers. Real tigers. There's thousands of tigers in private collections in Texas. Really? Bro, this is a crazy place. It's a crazy place. It's so tight with the weed. Yeah, but you can't smoke weed here. They got to bail on that. They're also tight with fentanyl tests, which is even crazier.
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Escape tiger that had Texas communities on edge finally caught. Oh, yeah, that was around Houston. Bengal tiger was on loose for nearly a week. Jesus. What was it eating? That's Houston. See, you got all that oil money down there in Houston, and that's where dudes have their own tigers.
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what i like about new york you just gotta worry about some raccoons and yeah there's a guy in new york that had a tiger in his house in harlem what yeah there's a photograph a famous photograph of these cops see if you find that photo jamie the the cops are looking through the foot right there looking through the window this guy had a tiger in his apartment oh my god look at that thing bro how insane is that photo was the guy in there was he eating
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I don't think the guy got killed. I think they just found out the guy had a tiger in there and they had to go in and dart him. And then they had to drag him out of there and take him to the zoo. Yeah, the dude had a 450-pound cat in his fucking apartment. How do you clean up after that? Not well. Get a big litter box. First of all, that thing's going to piss everywhere. I know.
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They mark their territory by pissing on things.
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I can't even. That guy was just tigered out. He was all in. Regular cat urine's bad enough. Imagine a tiger. Tigers just pissing on your walls. What are you going to do? Tell it don't do that?
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Still in jail. I had the people who did the documentary on yesterday.
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You need to watch Chimp Crazy. Chimp Crazy, they take it to the next level.
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The people's desire to have these things that could kill them. It's so strange.
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Is that supposed to be good? Those aren't bad, though.
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I heard it's good. Really? Yeah, I heard it's real good. I heard it's scary as fuck. I heard it goes back to the first Alien, where they're hard to find and scary. After a while, they were everywhere, and you just shoot them. The first one, you couldn't even find that fucker. He was sneaking around.
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But it was a totally different kind of movie, right?
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So you got Ridley Scott does the first Alien. Suspenseful. And you got this suspenseful, terrifying thing, and people start coming up missing, and it's fucking hiding in the ceiling.
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She's the hero. She was the first male or female lead of a monster movie, action movie, where you didn't go, oh, they're pushing a woman on me.
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Yes, yes, yes. You believed that this lady scientist got stuck in this fucking spaceship with a demon. Oh, this is great. Oh, that movie's so good. Aliens is so good. Aliens is good, but Alien is better. No. Because it's hard to kill. And Aliens, they're shooting them left and right. They're all over the place. The people in Aliens, Alien 1 would have been done in five minutes.
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Like, oh, there it is. It's dead. But in this one, they kill so many of them until they get to the mother. And then when the mother doesn't kill her when she's wearing the robot suit, I'm like, shut the fuck up, bitch. But I like when she's like, get away from her, you bitch.
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The thing is, there's too much exposed. I don't buy it. If she's in a robot thing where she's completely encased, okay. But she's just all out there with tissue exposed. Get away from her, you bitch. This is a giant alien. How is that thing not going to fuck? It moves way quicker than people. How is that not going to fuck you up instantaneously with your stupid ass slow robot?
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But also, it's like... If you look at him in comparison, he doesn't have the same accolades as far as jiu-jitsu competitions as Gilbert does, but he's like world class in straight up grappling. For sure, for sure. He's definitely legit. He's Craig Jones. Yeah, he's Craig Jones. There was a special rules thing. There were no leg locks. That was it.
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Fucking money. What a great movie. It's a great movie. It's just a different kind of movie.
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Prometheus was good, but the one after Prometheus was better. What was that one, Jeremy? What was the last one?
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Because it ended fucked up. Covenant, yeah. Wasn't Jussie Smollett in that one, too? He was.
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This is a good one, though, man. This one's good. No, man, he's in there. He's in the spaceship. He's working the controls. This is a real good one.
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And again, the aliens in this one, they're hard to get a hold of.
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Yes. So these are the things that get to your ear. Little spores get inside you from that egg. It's a good one, man. This is a really good one. And when these dudes start shaking when it gets them. It's fucking great. That's a good one. Yeah. But I heard the new one is really good, too. I think the new one's Ridley Scott, too, as well, right?
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Did he do the new Gladiator? I don't know.
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Oh, did people said something about his accent, right? What is the accent that people have an issue with? That's what I hear. Can we hear Denzel? Let's hear his accent.
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Sounds like a regular dude. They want him to have a British accent? They always want people, when they're speaking another language and it's translated into English, they always want them to have a British accent. It doesn't matter where it's from. It's Rome. Isn't that weird? Everyone talks in a different way. Yeah, it's weird. It is kind of weird. This is in India.
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This is in Rome. This is in Italy. Why do they talk like this? But there's something about hearing regular modern English in an old-timey movie. Like, nah. Like, you don't buy it now. Yeah, you need an accent. Like Tyrion Lannister. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All the people in Game of Thrones, they all had an English accent. Did they speak Latin with an Italian accent back then? That's a good question.
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Which is, you know, with Craig Jones. That's a big part of his game. Yeah, if you're going to compete against that guy, you've got to let him use the whole game. It's the whole game. You don't say you can't use your best stuff. It was funny.
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I don't think they spoke Latin. I don't think these people were speaking Latin. Were they?
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Were they speaking Italian or were they speaking Latin? They would have been speaking Latin back then. Okay, but here's the question, the reason why I ask this.
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When Martin Luther was translating the Bible in the 1500s or the 1400s, whenever that was, the reason why the Bible was, the priests would be the only one that could tell you the Word of God, because they're the only one that could read Latin. So no one spoke Latin, no one read Latin. They couldn't read it.
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So these people didn't know what was in the Bible until Martin Luther, he translated it into phonetic languages. I think German and a couple other languages it got eventually translated to. So then people could read the Bible for themselves, whereas before it was just Latin. So when did Latin die off? When did they stop using Latin? Because Latin's a weird one.
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You learn it in school, but you're never going to fucking use it. They spoke Latin and Greek. Like, when did Latin go? Isn't it crazy? So the Roman Empire, they spoke a language that's dead. It's a dead language. Which is bananas.
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Right. So there it is. After the fall of Rome in 476 A.D., Latin began to die out and distinct local Latin dialects developed. Wow. Wow. So these dialects eventually evolved to modern romance languages like Italian and Spanish, which is crazy. That means those languages are only 500 fucking years old. That's nuts.
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Yeah. Of course. Yeah, of course. But isn't it crazy that those languages, like Italian, is only like 500 years old? Who the fuck would have guessed that?
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Oh, yeah. They all... Texas is way bigger than all those places, which is nuts. When you look at America, it's basically like Europe, but we don't call it different countries. But Kentucky is so much different than Los Angeles.
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Yeah. And none of us caught that either. How did I not catch it? You're just seeing it. You're seeing it and saying it. Okay. So I'm sorry. 1,500 years. Still, languages developing now. You would think they were older than that.
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And I firmly believe that Craig Nelson, Craig Jones rather, if Craig Jones got him in any kind of a position, like a heel hook, he would never rip his shit apart.
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I've never heard anything about it. That's amazing. Good. I need something new to watch. I just finished The Peaky Blinders. Yeah.
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Well, we've got some weird shit going on with our food. That's for sure. You can eat pasta over there. You feel normal.
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You know, Froot Loops in America are different than Froot Loops in fucking Canada. Because we allow all the dirty dyes. We allow all those funky dyes that are horrible for you. And European countries are like, no, that shit's poison. We're like, give it to the kids. Give the babies the poison.
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Loaded with sugar. But we never know. When we were kids, nobody ever told us. Sugar just all it did was rot your teeth. No big deal. That's what it felt like.
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All of it. I just take Frosted Freaks and put sugar on top of it. Remember those days? I do. You get there at the bottom and I'm ready with sugar.
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There is something to be said for drinking things that have a high sugar content after hard training. That's fact. And you know who used to do that? Floyd Mayweather. Floyd Mayweather used to be having these crazy workouts, and he would crack open a Pepsi, and people were like, what the fuck is he doing? He's crazy. But no, he's nice, smart.
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As hard as that guy worked out, flooding yourself in, you're getting that muscle glycogen in a crazy way that you're really not going to get any other way. I don't recommend drinking soda. I like it. It's fun. I like to drink a soda every now and then, a real one. But he used to drink it after training.
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Yeah, I mean, he's there drinking a Coke. And you would think, like, there's no way this guy, he treats his body like a temple. But he does. He's smart. That guy did it the right way. Never drank, never partied, never was out of shape, never got fat, would run home from the club at 2 o'clock in the morning in his jeans, just fucking getting in work, never out of shape.
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He got to see all the mistakes. He's like, I'm not making any of these.
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And also figured out, I can't knock everybody out, but I can get everybody to want me to get knocked out. And so people come to see me get knocked out, and I beat everybody. That's right.
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I was trying to tell that to Khalil Roundtree. Because Khalil Roundtree, before he got the title fight, was in here, and he was telling me he was going to take a grappling match. I go, think about Cub Swanson. He blows his ACL out. He's gone for nine, ten months, and he's in the 30s. He's already in his 30s.
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If boxing is hit and don't get hit, who's better than Floyd? Zero people. How many people cracked him in his career?
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And then... Conor McGregor? Homeboy from Argentina. Homeboy from Argentina. Maidana.
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The first Maidana fight was pretty... Maidana knocked his tooth out and then would carry it around on a necklace. Maidana has Floyd Mayweather's tooth.
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Show it, Jamie. Maidana has Floyd Mayweather's tooth on a gold necklace.
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But think about that. He definitely cracked him at the end of that round and wobbled him, and then it was right at the bell. And so then Floyd got back on his bike and started outboxing him. But Maidana, see, there it is. There's his tooth. See, there it is. He's got it knocked out, and he keeps it around his neck.
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Amazing. Yeah. Amazing. But also could recover.
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Floyd could recover. He just had a lot of hand injuries.
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I want a necklace. You can see it in the fight. It flies out of his mouth. And one of the corner men saw it and grabbed it.
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Well, if you're going to have a rematch with a master technician, he's going to figure out all your little things.
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Did you see Superlek in 1FC? I didn't see that, no. What is that? Dude, Superlek is this badass Muay Thai fighter. And he fought Jonathan Haggerty? Who was the champion?
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Yeah. Yeah, I heard about that. But I saw an interesting breakdown. Here it is. Look at this. He caught him with that overtop elbow. Like real quick in the fight. I think it was like 40 seconds.
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K.O. So they had a real good fight in the first fight. It was six years ago, and Hegarty became the champion, and everybody thought, you know, like, this is going to be a much different fight. But what I saw that was interesting was someone broke down. There was a video breakdown of his tells, that Hegarty has a certain hop, hop, and then he goes in.
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And then Superlek had timed it, and he tried it earlier in the round and didn't catch it. And in this one, look at this. Perfect timing.
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This is the thing that I love that 1FC is doing. I don't love what they did to Mikey Moose Imagine, but what I love what they're doing is they're having world-class Muay Thai fighters and they're putting them in these giant cards where like tens of thousands of people to see them. It's on Amazon. So millions of people are going to see it around the world on Amazon and it's on the internet.
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He came back. You can come back, but it's so unnecessary. I get you're a badass, but you're also a professional athlete. You can't be motorbike riding. Cerrone did it. Cerrone must be the biggest headache for the UFC. He's out there fucking riding bulls, jumping jet skis.
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So all these people are going to be able to see it on YouTube. And it's exposing people to these guys that are just super high-level strikers that you're not going to hear about. 200 fights. Who would have heard of Rod Tang if it wasn't for one?
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He was a motherfucker. Look at his elbow. Longo's happy. Oh, my God. Phenomenal. So clean. Phenomenal. Ready? Bang, Weidman. The timing. Good one.
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Is he training with Wonderboy? Who's he training with down there? Does he live down there?
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He's got a bunch of nice guys with him. They got a decent little squad down there from what I hear. Well, he was throwing kicks in the last fight. Yeah. He was throwing hard kicks with that right leg.
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It's crazy. I can't watch it. But it seemed like he was trying to prove a point.
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That last fight was a bummer, though. The eye poke thing was a real bummer. It kind of made it, yeah. It took away from it a little bit. It was a bummer. I feel like, I keep saying it, but I feel like they should cover those fingertips. There's no reason why they're exposed. It doesn't make any sense. Do it like a bad glove. Cover it like a bad glove.
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Yeah, it's still the same setup. I feel like if you're going to have the fingerless ones, Trevor Whitman's are the best. They're the best. They curve down, right? They curve hard, but your hands stay in this position. You have to struggle to do this. Your hand naturally goes in this position. The UFC gloves are still like this. Yeah. Like how did they think that was going to be the answer?
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You got to cover the fingers. There's no reason to not cover the fingers like a bad glove. Just have a piece of leather that goes over the fingertips. So you have one thing. It's not going to invade your grappling. It's not going to change your striking. It's not going to change anything. Put like a piece of elastic in there. Yeah. Just keep it closed.
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And this way, at least if you get poked in the eye, you're getting a blunt thing like this. You're not getting something that goes into your eyeball, right? So have them all covered with something like that and have like a ridge over the top of it, like a soft foam ridge. So even if you're getting poked in the eyes, you're not— It's definitely better than a foam.
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Yeah, you're not getting an individual thing going deep into your eyeball with a fingernail, which is what people get right now. You get fucking fingernails. Dirty-ass fingernail in your eyeball. Even if you trim your nails, like my nails are trimmed, I wouldn't want that in my asshole. Oh, let me look at me today. Imagine if that's in your asshole? Yeah.
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Scratching around inside your asshole, right? And your eyeball is just soft tissue, man.
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That's what I'm saying. My head went straight there. Of course. That's where I was going with it. It's like soft tissue in your eyeballs is the scariest soft tissue. We're allowing fingernails to go in there for no reason. You could fix that. You really could fix that by just covering the tips of the fingertips.
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I don't remember a single fight. I mean, there might have been one his whole career, but he had to have a broken fucking leg or something. But he was still reckless as fuck.
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You're always going to have thumbs. You know, you remember Roberto Duran and Davey Moore? Yeah, yeah. He thumbed them right in the eyeball.
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Trevor Whitman has the best gloves. Yeah. He has the best training gloves. He has the best bag gloves. All his equipment is top tier. He uses the best materials. The foam he uses is very different. It's like super high-tech density foam. It feels better when you're hitting things. I think it would protect people from hand injuries better. Yeah. So they should talk to him. They did.
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He apparently wanted some crazy amount of money that the UFC wasn't willing to give him. Trevor! That's the UFC's perspective. I don't know what Trevor... I love Trevor, but I'm a big fan of his stuff. If it was up to me, I would figure out a way to make that work.
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But, you know, apparently he wanted something crazy.
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Thank you very much. Nobody dresses better.
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But you do have a flair. You got your own Dean Thomas flair.
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Always show up. Hey, there's some good fights on this card this weekend. Oh, I know. Bahamundes is a bad motherfucker.
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That's a bad motherfucker. Bahamundes, yeah. That's an interesting fight on the undercard. Let's see. He's fighting Manuel Torres, who's also good. Yeah. That's a good fight, man. That's a real good fight. That's one of them under-the-radar fights.
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Baja Mundes throws some wild shit. Oh, yeah, Chris Duncan. Yeah, he busted Chris Duncan. Yeah. That's going to be an interesting fight. But for me, scroll all the way up to the top, Jamie. No, no, no, the end of the card. I'm very, very interested in the rematch of Alexa Grasso and Valentina. Yes, me too. I felt like Valentina did enough to get the nod in the second fight.
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He's still out there doing it. Same reason why people stick around too long in the game. Yeah, but that's also why he's so much fun to watch, man, because he genuinely didn't give a fuck. In the early days of his career, man, he was very interesting because he was a wild kickboxer that had a great triangle.
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I felt like she... And some judge gave the last round to Alexa Grasso 10-8. Yeah, two points. Which I thought was kind of...
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well you know why right yeah she had her because he had her in the choke yeah and like he was just kind of biased from the first choke right so he thought that was close enough it was kind of close but it wasn't you know i mean it means something if you're gonna do that you should do that all the time anytime someone gets you in a choke and you defend that's a 10-9 already you already got a 10-9 anything more than that now it's 10-8 you know like like boxing with knockdowns right the scoring is too subjective
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Right, a 10-8 is a dominant round. You dominated the whole round.
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I think Aljo was just a 45er who was a bad motherfucker at 35, but I think we're going to see the real Aljo at 45.
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He's so big, man. I was always like, how the... I saw him in between fights once. He's like 176.
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Interesting fight. High-level grappling. Very high-level grappling. When he got Sanhagen's back, bro, that was the quickness.
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That rear naked choke of his is about as good as it gets in MMA right now.
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But Diego Lopez and Ortega's going to be crazy. That's going to be fucking crazy.
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You know, I do the interviews with fighters. I did an interview with him, and he was like, he just looked tired. I think he just, I mean, he didn't make weight that fight either, remember?
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It was a medical withdrawal. Yeah. So he missed a weight, and then on top of that, they changed the weight class, and then on top of that, he never makes it to the fight. He was sick.
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So he finished off a lot of his early fights with jiu-jitsu.
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He's very good. This is a very fun fight. Very fun fight. There's a lot of, like, under-the-radar fights on this card.
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Here's the question. You know how they show, like, on the big screens, you get to see the fights? If you're in the stands, like, so you can see things that maybe you don't see. Are they going to have it on the whole ceiling?
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I think they should have the fight on the whole ceiling, and then everybody would not know where to fuck to look.
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They'd be getting knockouts, and people wouldn't even be looking at them. They'd be like, ah! Because it's way cooler. If it's only going to do it once, have the shit on the ceiling.
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I think there's six mini movies that play about the history of combat sports in Mexico.
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Yeah. That's crazy. Crazy. See, they spent $20 million on this fucking place. Yeah, I've heard. It's nuts. I think what the original budget was 10. Wow. And they just went over? So- Sean O'Malley and Marab is a perfect fight for it. Oh, yeah. I know that neither one of them is Mexican, but let that go for a little bit. Mexico, they adopted Marab. It's true. He fights like a Mexican.
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He fights like a Mexican. He really does. God damn, that guy's gas tank is terrifying. He's terrifying because that's a guy that if you empty out early on Marab, you got real problems. He's got a chin on him. He survived. Revives. Apparently so. The Marlon fight was nuts, man.
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But Marize was like a frontrunner like no other.
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That first round with Henry Cejudo, I thought Henry Cejudo was going to sleep. Yeah, right. Dude, when Marlon was in his prime, when he knocked out Aljo with that switch kick, bro, he was terrifying. People forgot how good Marlon was. He was good, good. But he was just too big for the weight class, too. He was another guy. There's no way that was healthy. Right.
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He was so big for 35 and just shredded.
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The little fire plug with that little voice. What Marlon had that was so tricky was that left high kick off the front leg. He caught a lot of people. He did it so slick. It was so fast.
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It had to do with, there was some psychological aspects to it too, I think. There was like something when he was the nail, it wasn't as, you know, he just didn't stand up. He wasn't like Merab. Like Merab finds a fucking arm. There's a Georgia memory in there. Some fucking street fight with a goat.
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There's some deep memory of some fucking chaotic thing on a mountain that happened that's in his brain forever.
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I haven't seen that. Let me see that. Ricky Simone, Rob. I forgot about that fight.
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And then when it's end of it, it's like out, but in and out. So it's like, it was a weird, but he made it to the belt. Well, that's Yan Xiaonan against Zhang Weili. Remember? At the end of the round, she was out cold. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She got choked unconscious. And then they woke her up. And she's like, okay.
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Damn, dude. Do you think about all the fucking wars that a lot of people have forgot about? Yeah, I know.
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She woke up. But he won because he was the first guy to wake up. Yeah. So here it is. Ricky Simone gets him in a guillotine.
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Oh, my God. That's so nasty. Look how nasty that is. It's on, too. That's so tight. That's so tight. He's out. He's out right there. He's out.
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He's still shaking. Okay. So he's hanging in there. He's hanging in there. But where's the second slip? He's not tapping. God damn, that guy's got willpower, huh? For real.
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He's not tapping. He's surviving for the win. He's not defending with his arms either. This is crazy. He's not even defending with his arms. He's just using his neck. He's giving the thumbs up. Yeah.
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He's still moving his legs. I mean, that's... The horn! But now he's like... He's breathing.
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No, no, no, no. You can't say he's out there. That's what I'm saying.
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Dr. Walken. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. That's fucked up. You stopped the fight after the fight was over? Yeah. After the round was over, they decided he was out.
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But he protested immediately. He was just laying there with his eyes open. And it looked like he was out because he was fucking exhausted. Yeah, like he could be like, all right, yeah. That's like a sign of relief. Look, there's no way he would have known if the guy says it's over and he immediately protests. There's no way he could have known to protest if he wasn't awake.
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Yeah. There's some, you know, refs are human. They make mistakes. That's a rough one, though. It's a bad one.
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I mean, if you want to really. Well, I think all these moments of adversity just strengthened his resolve anyway. Oh, yeah. Because the guy's a monster now. The Henry Cejudo fight was so crazy. When he was carrying Henry Cejudo like a little kid with his tongue hanging out, I was like, this is mad.
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Right. People forgot about Jose Aldo's beginnings. Man.
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I felt bad for Henry. But he's doing it to Henry Cejudo. He wasn't just doing it to some guy who didn't belong in the cage with him. He's doing it to a two-division world champion who's Olympic gold medalist in wrestling, and he's carrying around like a pillow. Yeah. And he walks over to Mark Zuckerberg. Mark Zuckerberg.
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Talking shit while he's beating the fuck out of him. He was having a great old time. When he had him in that 10-finger guillotine, bro, that's a nasty spot. That's a nasty. I thought he was going to get him there with that. I'm like, that's a nasty choke. Yeah, I think he's going to have his night. I think the craziest moment like that, though, was when Hamzat picked up the leech. Oh, yeah.
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Walked him over there. Give me title shots.
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He's like carrying him in the air. Just carrying him over to Dana. And he starts fucking him up right in front of Dana. That dude's wild.
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Oh, man. And Carlos Prates put them hands on him. That guy's smoking cigarettes in the locker room, fucking everybody up. He's dangerous. He put them hands on him.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, he's good, man. He made that look easy, man. He's very, very, very good. That guy's scary. Where the fuck did he come from? There's so many of those guys.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, Fighting Nerds, man. They got a great team. But this guy, he's just a fucking killer, man. Carlos just knows how to put it on you. This knee to the body, man, was so nasty. Oh, see the knee to the body before that. They didn't have that in that video. But he had them hurt before this. But he's just fucking accurate. Dude, he's all limbs, dude.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah. There's some good fighters coming up, man. These kids that are coming up, they come into the cage so much better than guys just five years ago. So much.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
There's a PI there. Yeah, they're sponsoring these guys. Also, there's so many videos to watch now. Yeah. That's a big factor. Because, like, when you were coming up, you had VHS tapes. What the fuck are you going to watch? It's out of line and shit. Really? Did nobody got...
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Look, you can't keep that pace. Whatever that pace is when a guy is at the top of the food chain, you can't keep that pace up for very long. He kept it for 10 years. I always say you have to look at a guy— by where he was when he was at his best. Like, if we're gonna do this, like, who's the best guy ever thing, that's why I always throw BJ Penn in there. Me too.
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chance to see anything you didn't really get unless you saw them in your gym you didn't get a chance to see like real high level stuff and now guys they have a standard in their head that's way higher than everybody's standard from 10 15 years ago yeah no doubt about that guys just come in so well
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Still, the calf kick's only a few years old. Bisping said he went his whole career without getting kicked in the calf. Me too, thank God. Crazy. I'm glad that wasn't around back then. How the fuck did everybody miss that? I know, right? Benson Henderson used to throw it. He did. Weird, but he never had the kind of results that these guys are having. It's different. Where did it come from?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Well, it's Muay Thai. Is it part of Muay Thai? They've always done it. It just wasn't done that often because guys check it.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And if they check it and they turn out and you catch it on your foot. I think they do it a lot more in Muay Thai now, though.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, I think everybody just sees what's going on. You see it in one a lot. In Glory, you see it now a lot. Guys throwing it a lot, man. It's so effective.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It has to be a calf kick? That's really ridiculous.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That's ridiculous. That's silly. What's the matter with that? That's the whole point of karate. Yeah, that literally makes no sense. Yeah. Because what about kyokushin? What about ones where they kick the legs all the time? That's karate too.
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You're going to take out some of the best karate from karate?
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But you can ground and pound for like 10 seconds or something crazy?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
That doesn't make sense. What's your feeling on that side kick to the knee? Like what Khalil did to Modestus? Hate it. No, I don't hate it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But some head kicks are probably worse than getting knee kicked. I mean, Leon Edwards and Kamaru, if you ask Kamaru, would you rather take a shot to the knee or that shot to the head, he might take a shot to the knee.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Because BJ Penn, and you fought him, BJ Penn in his fucking prime was a demon. And he ran through everybody. That's why I forgot you both fought him.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You remember when Darren Till started using it on everybody? He was like one of the first guys to start using it on everybody. Jon Jones, of course.
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Like, there's no intention otherwise. Well, in sparring, you can't do that. No, you definitely can't. You can't do that in sparring. You'd be taking out your partner's knees. I've had guys tell me that they were sparring with guys they didn't know, and they did shit like that to them. Sidekicks to the knees. They're like, what the fuck are we doing? Now it's a real fight.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Now you're making a street fight. In a sparring match, a guy was telling me about the ATT. They bring in some crazy Russians who are sidekicking your knees to the knees.
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And I'm like, yo, what are you doing? That's crazy. Yeah. That's crazy. That's so hard. That's so hard. If you're in a high level sparring match with a guy where it's like you're getting emotional and then you throw a spinning kick, it's so hard to like slap him with the foot. It's so hard to decide to use the foot.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Well, that's why gloves are nuts, right? Because you can knee somebody in the face. You can elbow in the face. You can shin them in the fucking skull. Right. But your knuckles are covered. God forbid. It's kind of crazy.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
You just can't keep that up forever. So if you look at Aldo, like the Aldo that fought Uriah, remember what he did to Uriah's leg? Jesus. And how tough is Uriah How many dudes would have tapped? How many dudes would have just rolled over and that would have been the end of it?
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Do you think that there's a time in a fighter's career where they don't have to spar? Is there ever a time where they don't have to spar hard?
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But even Holloway, when he's getting ready for Gaethje, decided to spar.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
The reason I'm asking is because I was watching Izzy's fight with Drekus. And the thing about that fight is that it looks like at the end Izzy's very tired. And he gets clocked, like Drikus catches him with some of those winging punches, which he was getting away from in the earlier rounds.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
And he catches him, rocks him, and then he hits him with a couple more right hands against the cage, and then immediately gets him in a choke when he goes to the ground. And then Izzy taps. And... I always wonder, because that school of thought of like the Mar Marinovich school of thought when BJ was in his prime, was those guys were just doing wild plyometrics and cardio, and that's it.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
They just like, you know how to fight. We're just going to give you the most fucking insane gas tank you've ever had in your career. And if you can get through this crazy camp of doing box jumps and plyometrics and those fucking, all those things they were doing with their feet.
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Wild shit. And Nick Curzon, who I talked about, he's trained under him. They have this philosophy that a fighter, like a guy like you, you have so many fights, you know how to fight. You've been there, you've done it. What you really need to do for this camp, because you're getting ready for a fight, is not get injured and have a fucking insane gas tank.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I think Tony Ferguson after Gaethje is a different human being. Yeah, he's been compromised.
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Agreed. Agreed. Look, when it comes to willpower and when it comes to, like, discipline, there's no one like Goggins. But that doesn't matter if you mount him and strangle him to death.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
All that, I fucking never quit. You're going to quit, bitch.
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
I'm going to make your body quit. I don't care what kind of will you have. I get behind you and put that in there. You're going to sleep. You're going to pee your pants. That's how it goes. You're a human being. You have neck muscles. You have veins that provide all that blood to your brain. I'm going to cut that off. And you can't get all that he needs from a guy like that.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
But you can get something. You can get something. But Tony at that time was already on a long...
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
It's like a guy might have lost his leg. I mean, he almost got compartment syndrome. Yeah, he did. Right? He had to go in a hyperbaric chamber every day to try to heal that fucking thing.
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skid of multiple losses the Chandler knockout he gets front kicked in the face and an epic KO loss the Gaethje fight was horrific and then you gotta go before that he blows his fucking knee out backstage he was the boogeyman we were gonna see the boogeyman versus Khabib it was the fight everybody was pumped and then Al steps in On super short notice.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Raging Al had a great fucking account of himself. Big time.
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24 hours. Khabib in his prime. Yeah. And didn't get finished. For five rounds. Yeah. Bro, I always wonder, man, if Tony Ferguson just doesn't step on those wires and we get to see that fight, my God. How? Yeah. Because that was Tony Ferguson when he was the fucking boogeyman. When everybody was scared of him. Yep. He was beating the fuck out of everybody.
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It's just a thing. Didn't Randleman fall backstage or something too? Yes, right before the fight. He fell and hit his head. He stepped on some loose pipe. Went up in the air, banged his head, got knocked out, was bleeding.
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You got to remember, Kevin Lee maybe didn't achieve his potential, but Kevin Lee choked out Chiesa. Remember that? Kevin Lee was a motherfucker on the ground, dude. He had his moments.
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He had mad potential. Yeah. When he knocked out, what's his face, the wrestler?
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That's right, Gillespie. Oh, nice. That was a nice question. Ended the hype train there. Kevin Lee was a fucking beast, man. He just was inconsistent and then had a bunch of knee injuries, like severe knee injuries.
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Right. So you got to try to maximize that. Right.
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Right. If you saw Fedor fight Ryan Bader, you can't judge Fedor on that. And we tend to do that. We always do. That's why I always say BJ, because we judge BJ by the end of his career.
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Yeah. But that's the thing about fighters, is whatever that window is, they say it's nine years at your very best, from your contender to your champion, whatever, when you're fucking redlining. Bam! I think it's about five, really. You know?
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Anderson is prime. Yeah. It's like five years of just destruction.
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You ain't got it no more. Also injuries, you know, with Anderson. Injuries. Well, first it was Weidman. Weidman's left hook. Yep. That was the start of it all. Yep. Weidman's left hook. Bro, that was crazy. Crazy. Real crazy. Same one he landed on Uriah Hall. Remember? Yep. Oh, yeah.
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Before Uriah Hall was like the next big thing when he was in the Ultimate Fighter, Chris had fought him in New Jersey. Ring of Combat. Yep. Lou Neglia. Bro, he had a long left hook. Weidman's got that.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
that extra foot to that hook you know it was a long hook like an extended arm hook at the end sometimes go go gadget it's a good hook man because the guys don't think it's going to be able to reach them and then all of a sudden it's there pop
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Yeah, Eric is game. But remember when he fought Khalil and didn't even flinch? And Khalil was just blasting his legs?
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Bro, I asked him about it. I was like, what was that like? He said, every one of them hurt. Every one of them. They hurt so bad. Good poker face, bro. For real. He just took it. Yeah. Some good fights coming up, kids.
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That's the one for me. Because I see that fight, I go, I don't fucking know. I love a fight where I don't fucking know. I know. A lot of people would have counted out him on the Gaethje fight.
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Insane. And now you're giving him a lot of time to prepare and get ready for this fight? And then Hamzat and Whitaker, is that going to happen? There's people, I don't know.
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Jeff Neal and Rafael Dos Santos. I didn't know that was happening. Armin Petrosian and Maga Medoff. Ooh. Yeah, that's some good fights on that card. They bust out. Anybody who celebrates Ramadan on that card.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
Get in there. Come on, bro. That main event is so unpredictable. Toporia, everybody he hits goes night-night. I know. Everybody he hits. Max is hard to hit. Very hard. And Max got a chin on him, too. Max got a chin. And he's got a gas tank. And Max got that new sneaky spinning back kick while he's stepping away. It was nasty. Yeah, it was working, right? That might have been a game changer, man.
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JRE MMA Show #163 - Protect Ya Neck
He is back. I think your fucking shins just go, man. I mean, think about it. That's what was going on with Amanda, right? She was having nerve damage in her shins. Just think about it. Especially now with the calf kick. How many guys that fought Pejeta are going to be fucked up for the rest of their life? You know? How many guys are going to have, like, some weird thing with their foot?
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Yep. Smashed his nose. Had to change the fight. Change the fight. Change the fight. Change the fight. And it was a skill that he really didn't use a lot earlier in his career.
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And he had it all of a sudden dialed in. It was crazy. And it was a hard one to do because he's moving away. It was like a hop away spin to the face.
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You wouldn't believe that if it was in a movie. Right. Shut up. Right. Shut up with your stupid energy.