John Hansman
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Well, we're obviously still looking at all the information that's coming in, but Um, apparently, uh, this was sort of good visual conditions. You could, airplanes could see each other, um, in a, uh, area like Washington, um, national, you have, uh, military operations to the Pentagon and things like that. And you have the airport right there.
Well, we're obviously still looking at all the information that's coming in, but Um, apparently, uh, this was sort of good visual conditions. You could, airplanes could see each other, um, in a, uh, area like Washington, um, national, you have, uh, military operations to the Pentagon and things like that. And you have the airport right there.
Well, we're obviously still looking at all the information that's coming in, but Um, apparently, uh, this was sort of good visual conditions. You could, airplanes could see each other, um, in a, uh, area like Washington, um, national, you have, uh, military operations to the Pentagon and things like that. And you have the airport right there.
So it's not unusual in these kinds of conditions for the air traffic controllers to allow the airplanes to look at each other and self separate in this case. The controller had given the clearance to the helicopter to avoid the traffic, to basically have them in sight.
So it's not unusual in these kinds of conditions for the air traffic controllers to allow the airplanes to look at each other and self separate in this case. The controller had given the clearance to the helicopter to avoid the traffic, to basically have them in sight.
So it's not unusual in these kinds of conditions for the air traffic controllers to allow the airplanes to look at each other and self separate in this case. The controller had given the clearance to the helicopter to avoid the traffic, to basically have them in sight.
And apparently, for whatever reason, the helicopter pilots got distracted or something happened and they didn't see the airplane and collided.
And apparently, for whatever reason, the helicopter pilots got distracted or something happened and they didn't see the airplane and collided.
And apparently, for whatever reason, the helicopter pilots got distracted or something happened and they didn't see the airplane and collided.
Yeah, I think, and I don't know if you want to play it again, but the helicopter is actually, it's just a very light dot that's moving from left to right, okay? In the airplane, you're actually seeing their landing light coming at you. In the bigger picture, there was another airplane behind, So what happens in a place like Logan, or I'm sorry, National, you'll have multiple airplanes lining up.
Yeah, I think, and I don't know if you want to play it again, but the helicopter is actually, it's just a very light dot that's moving from left to right, okay? In the airplane, you're actually seeing their landing light coming at you. In the bigger picture, there was another airplane behind, So what happens in a place like Logan, or I'm sorry, National, you'll have multiple airplanes lining up.
Yeah, I think, and I don't know if you want to play it again, but the helicopter is actually, it's just a very light dot that's moving from left to right, okay? In the airplane, you're actually seeing their landing light coming at you. In the bigger picture, there was another airplane behind, So what happens in a place like Logan, or I'm sorry, National, you'll have multiple airplanes lining up.
So this is the way you might. So the one you see now in the distance is an airplane that's behind, right?
So this is the way you might. So the one you see now in the distance is an airplane that's behind, right?
So this is the way you might. So the one you see now in the distance is an airplane that's behind, right?
Yeah, the helicopter is coming from left to right in the image. So it's a very faint line. They don't have a very light thing. And so this is one of the issues. Did the helicopter pick up the wrong traffic? They were given the location when they acknowledged the traffic over the bridge at 1,200 feet. So they knew where to look. They saw a target there. Was it the right one? It's not clear.
Yeah, the helicopter is coming from left to right in the image. So it's a very faint line. They don't have a very light thing. And so this is one of the issues. Did the helicopter pick up the wrong traffic? They were given the location when they acknowledged the traffic over the bridge at 1,200 feet. So they knew where to look. They saw a target there. Was it the right one? It's not clear.
Yeah, the helicopter is coming from left to right in the image. So it's a very faint line. They don't have a very light thing. And so this is one of the issues. Did the helicopter pick up the wrong traffic? They were given the location when they acknowledged the traffic over the bridge at 1,200 feet. So they knew where to look. They saw a target there. Was it the right one? It's not clear.
The other thing that we understand is that this was a night training mission. One of the things that happens in night training missions is the pilots will be actually using night vision goggles. Normally, you would not use night vision goggles in the city. You would use it in a dark area. But who knows, were they through the goggles?
The other thing that we understand is that this was a night training mission. One of the things that happens in night training missions is the pilots will be actually using night vision goggles. Normally, you would not use night vision goggles in the city. You would use it in a dark area. But who knows, were they through the goggles?