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Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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sue native american skeleton with acromegaly that's like pituitary gigantism it's a disease condition right so they're claiming that right we're in staleville missouri in episode two and we find the cave where they at puckett's cave where they found an eight and a half foot skeleton and we go through we you know we talked to everyone we found where find where it was unearthed

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And we go through the microfilm and we find an eight and a half foot skeleton laying on the doctor's office next to six foot and a half less eaten. We found a photograph of it. And then 15 days later, it's requested to be shipped to the Smithsonian. And I'm saying that. The skeleton is there, wired together by University of Missouri archaeologists and shipped to the Smithsonian.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So how does that shrink into something that's less than six foot three? And the Smithsonian's own records have a count after a count that Hugh and I read in our book of similar skeletons that are claimed by their scientists to be over seven foot, over eight foot. So I don't have a time machine. You can only make educated guesses about the past.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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But to say that this is a ridiculous premise and I'm like, you know, some grifter or weirdo or, you know, the way that the pseudo skeptics often look at the alternative community of researchers is that it's like they're my ideological enemy, like in science. I'm not gonna yield an inch to them. I'm not just gonna dismiss what they have to say. I'm gonna denigrate them. I'm gonna call them racist.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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I'm gonna do whatever I can to throw red meat to my base because I'm stimulated because I'm some heroic gatekeeper. And on this end, on the alternative end, I would say, I could run with this narrative that, oh, I'm some maverick fighting the evils of archaeology, and I'm a great guy in, like, being this bullshit echo chamber of true believers as well. But that's not reality either.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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I was like paralyzed and it was insidious and intractable. And all this is verified by my former neurologist, Dr. Allison Ryan in North Hampton, Mass. So I am indebted to the spirits of ayahuasca, let's say.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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You know, like, science is apolitical. Science is objective. I need to see and analyze a 10-foot skeleton to solve the case. I can't just spin bullshit. You know what I mean? So the moral of the story is, you know, scientists are like cops. They should deal with a lot of shit. They deal with crazy people.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And they got to keep their cool to get the respect they deserve. You know what I'm saying? Like you go through all that hard work. I got my PhD. I am an expert in this field. You know, like Graham Hancock, for instance. Yeah. I may not agree with you, but this is what I need to see.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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for your theory to be accurate i have to see a 12 000 year old date from some temple site in egypt at the assyrian or whatever i need to see this evidence all the all the other stuff all the claims of racism that that makes people almost believe in conspiracies you know what i mean like that that you objectively state what is needed and then if you show me this i'm all his you know right yeah what did you make of that podcast with him and flint dibble

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Yeah, I'll say this. When you put yourself out there, There's a lot of assholes out there. Yeah. And it's like, you know, the calling for his job or the personally attacking him, you know, and it's like, it happens on both sides. Like Hancock, you know, it's called a racist, right? Right. Dude's in a biracial marriage. Right. He's, all he's talking about is indigenous rights. Right. Right? Right.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Now, there's partial truth there. There are white supremacists who believe Nazi supermen built the mounds of America and stuff like that. And there was this mound builder myth that Native Americans weren't sophisticated enough to build the geometric forms and everything they did. So there is legitimate beefs there.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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But they're saying that, oh, Hancock quoted Ignatius Donnelly in his first book, and Donnelly said some racist shit, you know what I mean? Which he did. Did he really? Yeah, yeah. But all the scientists of the time, you wouldn't believe how freaking racist mainstream science was for the longest time, up into the 30s and the 40s. I'd repeat them, but they're beyond repulsive.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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But I don't take that and paint that modern-day scientists and academics with that brush. It's like they've clearly gone in another direction. So it sounds like a sound argument, like, oh, they're all racist, by Hancock looking for a lost civilization and saying, maybe before the Inca, there was another race or beings that showed up. And

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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The claim is, from kind of the male-dominated, white, left-wing cult of academia, sorry, that sounds harsh, but it's true, that you're trying to take away the accomplishments of these people.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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But the reality is, the Inca, the Mayra, they told the Spanish that the gods and the Veracoches built these structures. There's clearly two forms of stonework in Peru.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And it's not like, oh, you're stiff, you can't do this. It's like the native people are actually telling us there were two different eras, right? But then you go to Malta and the Maltese, what are they like? Sicilian farmers who came over in 5,800 BC, but they have legends of giants and gods at Gigantia. The Greeks are the same way. These old megalithic walls are built by the Cyclops.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Probably like 17 years ago, something like that. Yeah, yeah, what was I? No, the seizures didn't manifest until a little later. I got the injury early on, and then I started to get neurological dysregulation and things like that. But the real seizures, I think, started manifesting in my 20s. How long after the injury did the seizures start coming on?

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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You go over to Ireland, and the Tuatha Dé Danann, these mythical beings with high technology who came from lost continents or islands in the Atlantic, are attributed with the making of Newgrange. So I'm not getting in a fistfight with Sully at a bar in Southie because I said, no, the Irish ancestors didn't do it. But it's a charged racist thing with these other cultures that aren't white, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Yeah. And I'll go, but so, so there you go. That's the scope of it. And I'm saying like, it's also stupid. It's also dumb.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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It's the binary system. It's left and right. You know, we should have, like, a five-party system. You know? But it's like... I'm in an echo chamber. The algorithms are weaponizing my preferences. So I go and I'm addicted to outrage. Everybody is, right? It's like, instead of like, if you're a good person, go work at the homeless shelter. Don't pretend you're online being good.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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You're a freaking, like a coke addict looking for another hit. And that's fine. And I speak, you know, I was in that zone myself for a while. And it made me want to take like a hundred showers. And I don't want to belabor this racist thing. I just want to like put it out there because...

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Honestly, a lot of pseudo-skeptics feed information to The Guardian and they do these hit pieces without asking Hancock's opinion of the matter, right? Of course, right. And that's not cool. No, it's shitty.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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It was funny. We were playing East Bridgewater. I grew up in Hull, south of Boston. Pull us a little closer. Yep. And I was a running back and a linebacker, and I took a hit during the play, and I scored on, like, an 80-yard touchdown. But, like, I remember running, and, like, the cerebrospinal fluid came out of my nose. Oh! Yeah, and I was like...

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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One of my greatest teachers said, agenda makes you stupid. And I'm not saying that. I'm not dissing Flint Dibble. I'm sure he's a nice guy, and we probably get along. No, he was.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Yeah, I was going to say, we probably shoot the breeze for like three hours and laugh our ass off. It's just... I understand where he's coming from. Like, there's a lot of assholes out there. There's a lot of pseudoscience out there. There's a lot of bullshit. There's no peer review in the alternative realm, right? So there's a lot of bullshit artists and grifters.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And there's a lot of well-intentioned people who get it wrong, too, because it is not... Their books, their presentations are not put up for peer review. They don't get critically analyzed. I could sit here and tell you... And they get these softball-like interviews with true believers and podcasts. So it's like...

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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If I could spin you one side of a story and make myself appear to be the big hair who has all the answers, but if you objectively debate with someone, so, you know, dibbles up against some real assholes who like denigrate him or they call for his job and. That's why I've like... Oh, man, it's vicious. It's vicious, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And bingo. And the left wing is its own virtue signaling, DBI, ESG cult. Of course. And if I say transgender, a man who transitions to a woman, like I said, a former coach, should not be allowed to participate in women's sports. That's obvious, right?

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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But I think like Congressman Seth Moulton just said that out of Massachusetts and Tufts is going to like, going to stop doing business with them or something.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And it's, if Trump's victory is a repudiation of all that, you know, and I like to think of myself as moderate, um, And I really feel like people got to understand the algorithms are weaponizing the preferences and they're getting you addicted to outrage. I mean, being a coach helped me. I got conservative parents. I got liberal parents. They both want the best for the kids.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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It's like, I don't give a shit what you vote for. It's a different dynamic. But will you indulge me for a second to read a quote and hopefully put the racist thing to bed? Of course. This is what Vine Deloria said. He was a Lakota Sioux elder.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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voted by time magazine is one of the greatest religious thinkers of the 20th century he's he's an author he wrote uh red earth white lies he was critical of of kind of white mainstream archaeology anthropology and he actually organized a conference in 1999 in washington state where he had all these elders share their indigenous wisdom about giants which is very interesting as well

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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So people say, oh, this is a fairy tale, you know, giants or whatever. It's like, how can virtually every culture on earth and almost every Native American tribe have these traditions of giants? And that's something.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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the indian explanation is always cast aside let me see as a superstition precluding indians from having acceptable status as human beings and reducing them in the eyes of the educated people to a pre-human level of ignorance the stereotypical image of american indians as childlike superstitious creatures permeates american society because americans have been taught that scientists are always right that they have no personal biases and that they do not lie which is

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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and a lot of indigenous scholars think the same way it's like you're dictating to us what we should believe because these ideas that the natives have are are about floods they're about giants they're about lost civilizations and they are they are a part of the belief system of the ideological enemy of science which is religion and mythology right so it's like i'm not going to yield an inch

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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So I'm going to make claims of racism where I kind of subtly and racially do not listen to the traditions of indigenous people. So I just throw that out there. It's like time to pull that, you know, if I got like a SS tattoo on my neck and I'm saying Nazi Superman built this and that, you know, you can shit on me, but yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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i'd like to put that to rest because i love working with professionals i've organized archaeological digs i sit and i talk to like anthropologists for hours on end i've um presented at um university campuses and the kids you know and i'm like a goodwill ambassador from lunatic fringe you know i talk about fish gods and atlantis and i i find these subjects interesting you know and i just like

Danny Jones Podcast

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I want a, like in science you have, I mean, I'm sorry, in medicine, allopathic medicine, alternative medicine, now you have complementary medicine. And I would like to see the same in archaeology and anthropology, hopefully.

Danny Jones Podcast

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I could tell you a metaphysical theory, you know, that one thing was I faced all these neuroses and self-doubt and this internal anxiety. conflict and trauma within myself, like everybody suffers with. So I really straightened out a lot of the things that drove my behaviors in life that were unhealthy, addictions, seeking externally. I was able to sit with myself

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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Yeah, first of all, I like him. He's a really solid dude. And he's into the traditions, like in India. Well, same thing. I've read all the Vedas, the Ashtavakra Gita, Rebu Gita, all the metaphysical and historical texts of the Hindus, and it's wild.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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So... You know, what I found is like in 1939 at the Morehiss Mound in Texas, they found a massive skull and there's a picture of it. And William Duffin was the archaeologist who was like a WPA works project in 39. And I went to talk to him and he passed away at like 106 a couple of years ago. Yeah, right. But anyways, the skull rests at the Texas Archaeological Research Lab and it's enormous.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And... Then in 1933, George Fisher, head geologist of Pennsylvania, unearthed a seven foot five skeleton. Donald Kadzo joins him on the dig. He is Oxford trained archeologist. He writes this article about finding a seven foot five skeleton.

Danny Jones Podcast

#291 - Smithsonian Cover-Up: The Lost GIANTS of Ancient America | Jim Vieira

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And then about three months later, he's cruising in a van with the seven foot five inch skeleton, talking about it, going to Harrisburg because the Smithsonian requested that it goes there, right? So that's where I go with this. It's not just like, this drunk farmer from 1720.

Danny Jones Podcast

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It is like respected professionals, including in the 50s and 60s, Don Dragoo, head of the anthropology department at the Carnegie at the Cresat Mount in West Virginia. They were destroying it for an oil and gas project. So he excavated and he found a seven foot two skeleton with massive bone structure, huge jaw. They call it the Adena jaw.

Danny Jones Podcast

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and Webb and Snow at the Dover Mound in Kentucky, funded by the University of Kentucky, unearthed another seven-foot skeleton with massive bone structure. The Adena people elongated their skulls. There's all this mystery here, right? So you might say, ah, seven foot, seven foot two, Shaq's that big or whatever.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But there are so many of these accounts with massive bone structure, with jaw bones that fit over the face, of a much higher percentage than today's population. if you read through all the ancient documents. So, I mean, I'm sorry.

Danny Jones Podcast

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There was a lot more shacks, but they were like NFL linebackers. They weren't like skinny dudes either. And every explorer you can name encountered giant native chiefs, Tuscaloosa and Alabama, DeSoto, you know, him and his father. And the archeological narrative is You know, the Indians were like 5'7", 5'8", and the Spanish, the English, they were 5'2", 5'3", which is true.

Danny Jones Podcast

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The general population was, but their leaders, the tall ones, the chiefs, they were on their knees. They towered over all our tallest men. You know, you read the accounts. and these explorers who were trained in the art of observation, and they are talking about absolutely enormous tribal chiefs all the way down to Patagonia.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Magellan, Drake, DeSoto, they all encountered and recorded this happening. So... It's just another, you know, just like polydactylism, extra fingers and extra toes. It's another aspect of the mystery that's ubiquitous. It's found around the world by cultures who had little or no contact. And that's what catches my attention.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Oh, good question. Well, 7'6 at the Mudder Museum in Philadelphia. And where did that one come from? It came from Kentucky, but part of getting it is that They sent it to the Muddah Museum with the understanding that they couldn't say where it came from. So I know it's very strange, but there's a seven foot six skeleton that's believed possibly to be one of these mound builder giants.

Danny Jones Podcast

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But I will say we have that photograph of like an eight and a half foot skeleton that was found and shipped to the Smithsonian in 1933 that we found during a show in the microfilm. And we got it in a book. So it's this picture of Les Eaton, who's over six foot tall, next to an eight and a half foot tall skeleton.

Danny Jones Podcast

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There's a part of the brain called the claustrum, right? The ego center that literally gets put to sleep and anesthetized when you do plant medicine ceremonies, when you do psychedelics. John Hopkins figured that out in like 2020. So I like to say the ego gets put to sleep, the tyrannical operating software of the separate self, the mystics would say.

Danny Jones Podcast

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To the argument I made, the Smithsonian is claiming that the largest skeleton they ever received was six for three. And I'm not saying modern day scientists, they probably don't even know these stories. But at the time there was a particularly zealous, racist, pre-Nazi eugenist named Dr. Herlichka that ran the anthropology department with an iron fist. Wow. Oh yeah, yeah.

Danny Jones Podcast

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He was a Czech anthropologist. He was a lot of the early scientists. There he is right there. actually were into this idea of giants. They were open to it. Their scientists wrote about a 36-inch circumference skull found by Thomas M. Perrin in Illinois, like massive bones in their ethnology reports. But he was the guy in 1933 who wrote and talked about giants are no more. This is wishful thinking.

Danny Jones Podcast

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This is delusions of amateurs and things like that, ignoring the fact that his own scientists had uncovered and reported these things. So it's a really interesting dynamic. And I'm going to say something that's repulsive, but he also said some and believe some of the most racist things you can imagine. He wrote and edited the Journal of American Anthropology in 1933. We write about it in our book.

Danny Jones Podcast

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He said the greatest threat to the American population is blending the inferior blood of the one tenth of the Negro population into the superior white blood of the rest of the of the white race. And he had all kinds of like that. And that's what scientists believed back then.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And this is, you know, you have Native American civilizations with these giant chiefs, the tall ones, with these legends of cannibalistic warlike giants that are clearly in their traditions. You have magnificent geometric forms that predict eclipses. You have this vast and incredible Native American civilization. But they were denigrated and they were marginalized as a ploy to steal their land.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And the scientists of the time went along with that, too. It's like, we're not going to embrace any of this mythological, childlike ideas of the Native Americans. We're going to marginalize them. And that's what happened. Scientists today do not operate like that. But you got to be honest about the shit that happened in this crucible when modern theories were reformed.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And one of the missteps of science is that they pushed away oral traditions in native indigenous wisdom. So we don't listen to the Inca when they tell us something that lines up with a mythological idea. We don't listen to the natives that have been there for tens of thousands of years when they tell us that giants were a historical reality.

Danny Jones Podcast

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That doesn't mean they were, but to dismiss them out of hand and portray indigenous people as superstitious and childlike, you can feel that too. When you're told about a native tradition, you get this vibe of like, I have... respect for their culture, but I don't believe the shit. You know what I mean? That's kind of like what we're taught by science.

Danny Jones Podcast

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So sorry, that's a long-winded way of saying be open to indigenous... traditional narratives. It's funny.

Danny Jones Podcast

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It gets put to sleep and you can see with clear vision. And it's like... You get like this life review. You can see everything. You can see how you behave unlevelingly and why. You can see the drives and the unworthiness. And you can do something about it. You can make these changes in your life. But the day-to-day tyranny of the ego doesn't allow you to see that.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Oh, I didn't know that. That blows. Jesus Christ.

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We wrote about the, it's called the sores of thunder effects. Anthony Robbins was a mystic and an author who wrote about giants and- Tony Robbins? No, no, no, Anthony Roberts. Oh, Roberts, okay.

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robbins oh anyways uh wrote about the souls of thunder effect when they opened the burial mounds uh around the in the british island uh aisles you would get like these incredible storms come up and his thought is like these ancient geomancers they built along ley lines they used their divination skills to to build and enchant the landscape that's a john michelle thing who was a mentor to hugh newman he's

Danny Jones Podcast

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He wrote about how you use certain stones, certain geometry, water and energy lines to transform and enchant the landscape to bring peace and prosperity to the population. It's like this ancient druidic.

Danny Jones Podcast

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thought system which is interesting but every time you would open these burial mounds of the ancients you would get wild storms and they're all documented and we get pictures of them like old wood cuts of the explorers would go on the weekends and look for pots and they're digging and then the second frame is this this wild storm comes up and the same thing is this like

Danny Jones Podcast

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It's in the way of, say, your divine nature, for instance. So I believe that I removed a lot of that.

Danny Jones Podcast

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You know, natives were into weather shamanism and the mystical world, and that's another thing that's dismissed, you know, this idea that there's another reality that we have to face with. And I've spent a lot of time with indigenous wisdom keepers, with shamans, with tradition holders, and they tell me,

Danny Jones Podcast

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very specific and very strange stories about the nature of reality, about the invisible realms and stuff like that. And it's my personal experience, but I got to say that that is exactly what they're saying. So you could dismiss them if you want, or you could say, maybe there was something to the story, just like your burial mound story. It's like, at least be open to it, I would say.

Danny Jones Podcast

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Like what's your intuition? What's your experience tell you? Like who is that freaking gatekeeper in your mind? Who is the tyrant that is like smugly, knows better? The ego, right? Insidious, tyrannical. It feeds you self-loathing and doubt and conflict and judgment instead of forgiveness and empathy, you know? Like the subtle voice beneath the surface is your real state, your natural state.

Danny Jones Podcast

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And the over-identification with the movie character, like this is the only existence I have. I got to freaking fight and scratch and I got to get things externally. That clouds your judgment, that covers you in the worst impulses. And the ego is the conspiracy.

Danny Jones Podcast

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turmoil and judgment and in all these because all the judgments we have for others in the world that are really judgments and unworthiness we feel about ourselves projected to get a hit so you feel better and self-righteous like a freaking bad drug addict the reality is it's like that undoing of the trauma within that manifests in a better way so moral of the story i think there's a physiological aspect to ayahuasca and i think there's a metaphysical one as well it allows you to self-reflect

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There are conspiracies in the world, but the ego is like a bad software program that makes you believe that your only experience is this right here. And that somehow it's like... once they throw you in the ground, you're done.

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Instead of the screen of existence, the ocean of existence and not the wave, your real state is eternal, unchanging, blissful, and God's at home and we're the idiots who decided to take a walk. The allegory of the prodigal son, that's what the mystics tell us.

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Bingo, you nailed it. Even Rudolf Steiner, the mystic, called it Ahriman. He called it this dark, cold technological force that would overtake humanity, but it would be chosen by humanity. And I studied with John Gardner. He was super old when I studied with him, like in the 80s. And he actually knew Steiner. Steiner was like a mystic, like Edgar Cayce. And he talked about...

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this cold technology would be accepted and wanted. So at the time, we're like, what is this technology that's coming around? My friends who studied Steiner are like, we joke, it's like, oh, you're putting on the helmet or they're going to have a TV that you have to leave on 24 hours a day in your house. We didn't know it would be the iPhone.

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It would be this insidious, dark, cold technology that brought about the worst impulses in humans. It agitates you. It gets you addicted to outrage. And just be honest, you know what I mean? We've all been- They're dopamine slot machines. Bingo, right?

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And I don't want to talk up my game, but part of my spiritual journey and my plant medicine ceremony is to look at all my embarrassing behavior, all my shortcomings, all my judgments, all my desperation around who is my soulmate, this heartache that we often feel. So I sat and I burned out the for years. I sat in silence for a long, you know, going Aaron Rodgers or whatever.

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I live in a 10 foot by 12 foot cabin, 10 foot by 12 foot. I have virtually no possessions. I drive in a beat up old truck. I've been single for years. And I've come to a place of never being lonely, completely thrilled to be at peace in a meditative state or to hang out with friends and stuff. And my life is oriented around serving anybody I can.

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Not because I'm a fake good guy, because I feel like the world bores me to tears. You know what I mean? I dig ancient mysteries. I like metaphysics. I'll mix in a little Celtics or whatever. Yeah. But the world of distraction and conflict blows the shit out of me. And when you reside and surrender into your real estate, it's so enthralling. You're like, I can't believe I am that.

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You know what I mean? So it's magnetizing us all, but we're swimming against the fucking river. We really are.

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Bingo and the moral of the story is you already are perfect You're like and we think of that in the context of a weird movie character who's temporary I'm talking about your real state behind the scenes and you can experience it in your temporary movie character excuse me, but It's like surrendering into that state versus swimming against the river because we falsely believe this is all we are.

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So you got right. I need some more money or I need a new girlfriend or I need, you know what I'm saying? Like, because I feel like about myself because I falsely believe.

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um what i am not and especially a character that the time is you know you're on the clock in a body you know what i mean i gotta get and now i just sit in silence i don't freaking want anything and i'm not saying that makes me right but i like to think it positions me well to objectively take on these controversial mysteries do shows do all this other stuff i do

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make changes in your life and yeah that's my experience it lasts a while right a few hours oh yeah absolutely um and i was doing san pedro uh cactus as well which is mescaline is the main ingredient there there's like 15 17 hour grueling you know people say like oh you're just getting high or whatever it's just like you face all your dark fears you're you're

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because I could feel the overstimulation happen. You're filming, millions of people are watching you, the camera's always following you around. And my brother and I are pretty grounded and level-headed, but I could feel the cokehead part of me getting wound up. It's like, oh, some MILF sending me a message, you know what I mean? It's like, sorry, but it can be overstimulating.

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And I'm like, fuck that. It's not that I'm so good, it's that it reads disingenuous and it makes me feel like shit. And I'll tell a story here, if you'll indulge me for a sec. I did a ceremony with the shamanista, and I asked...

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which guide me because I'm going to talk to this dude that I have these karmic entanglements with and has this, you know, you see mainstream media is fucking dying, right?

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Exactly. So these formats are the new news. They're like just growing in popularity, which is great. And I applaud you on creating this... way to communicate, but I'm in a ceremony. Like I asked the spirits, you know, guide me and show me. And what I got was this, like, I was thrust into the field of the one that Rumi talks about beyond concepts of good and bad. There was a field.

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I will meet you there. You know, that like, Thank God I don't have to do anything to become what I already am, right? It's just like that breath of fresh air. And Rumi was enlightened. Hafiz was enlightened. Ramana Maharshi, Jesus, Buddha, they have liberated themselves and wrote about what it's like to be in the state of the one.

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So I'm in the realm of the one, and I'm given a life review, and I see... Wow. the scope of my life, and it's like every time I was arrogant, judgmental, critical, argumentative, it wasn't even like it was a real thing. It was just false and untrue. It was just like this lame energy that went nowhere. And every time I was empathic and compassionate,

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helpful I could just see this incredible like this is what you really are this is the energy that's waking you up and this is what you this is how you should behave not out of good or bad it's because it's your real state you know how like judgment feels like yeah and holding the door and smiling for somebody just feels good right absolutely so it's it's not some new way it's like a reality this is what you are and it revealed it to me and then you showed up

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And I could see that we had different lifetimes together. I know that's a strange concept, but most of the world believes in reincarnation. All the masters teach it. And you are like an alchemist, like you and Rogan, that sets the stage for events like this can happen. Like you're objective, you're open-minded, you're self-reflective. And you don't take yourself too seriously.

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You're just like, let's create this platform. It's like Plato's Academy. Honestly, that's what Plato did. He would just open up the realm of ideas. So I applaud you for that, but it was wild. It was wild. And I know it's just like, I can't like, I don't know if a bunch of iron workers are going to know what I'm talking about. It's my experience. It just is what it is. You know what I mean?

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And I thought it was just a real cool happening, you know?

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It's terrifying, often, these ceremonies, and don't go into it lightly, I would say, you know? Yeah. And the shamans know this, and they're your tour guide through this experience, quite frankly. So they know what you're facing, and it's harrowing, you know? But... Have you ever smoked straight-up DMT? What's the Bufo I have? That's like the 5MD, what the hell is it? 5MEO DMT? Correct.

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That lasts quickly. Ayahuasca, psilocybin, those are multi-hour experiences. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. And it's a similar thing. They all have the same mechanism or function of putting the ego to sleep and allowing you to see with clear vision.

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athens in 9 000 bc was bedrock there's no evidence that it was advanced culture right so it's like that feeds into like is this a noble lie or not you know is this an allegory right and he did like he he did operate like that and you know these ideas that excuse me um Just because Plato said it doesn't make it factual. It could be like, this might be worthy of further investigation.

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That's what I would say. The idea intrigues me. Let's see. I would say that there are other sources that talk about, you know, like the Tuatha de Dunin show up from four island continents. I mean, islands, four Atlantic islands. And they show up in ancient Ireland and these supernatural beings. And you have these stories of lost worlds and gods and the Ogdoad and the Aeneid and Egypt.

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And at the Temple of Edfu, you have the building text, right? I saw you talking about the building text, right? So I reached out to Mano Safes today, who is translating them from German to English. Now, Dieter Kurth is a doctor who, since 1986, has been translating... the building text of Ed Fu into German, right? And the old French translations leave a lot to be desired.

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So Manu is friends with Dr. Dieter Kurth and interfaces with them, has them over for dinner, and he's taken these incredible texts and he's translating them now into English. So I... I just spoke at the KC conference with Manu and I'm friends with him. And I asked him about this dynamic of like, is this, is Hancock's version of the Ed Food text kind of a patchwork of wishful thinking?

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And he said, no, he got it right stunningly because they're very difficult to translate. Ptolemaic hieroglyphs are very, very difficult in context, very difficult to understand. But he said, you can believe it or not, but these, um,

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Just just really wonky and everybody's jump, you know, I scored the touchdown I go back to my coach and I explain what was happening But there's like, you know, the 70s something like the freakin Dark Ages. So I get sent back in obviously with the swollen brain skull fracture and TBI and and ended up manifesting as a seizures disorder.

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writings about the primeval land and the land of the gods in the first time, they are claiming that there was this lost island of the gods that was destroyed in the flood. In the Edfu text. In the Edfu text. And when were the Edfu texts written? It was a Ptolemaic temple. So, you know, 200 BC. I hope I got that date right.

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But no, no, the traditions go way, way back. They're oral traditions carried and written down. And like the pyramid text of Eunice are super ancient, but they're even from more ancient traditions. And I will say Homer talked about Egygia. That's his Atlantis. Egygia? Egygia. Egygia. In the middle of the Atlantic. Egygia. Yes, Egygia.

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The Egygian flood Plato talked about in Law's book three, and he says it was 10,000 years before the invention of writing and music. So the date is like 10,600 BC that Plato points to for the time of the Egygian flood. And Plutarch, and there's another geographer who's escaping my attention now, said that Egygia... lay five days west of England in the middle of the Atlantic.

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They pinpointed this Ogygian paradise in the middle of the Atlantic.

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Yes, yes. It's a little more intense. DMT really blows the top off your ego.

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Fact checked in real time. Yeah, look at that. Community notes.

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Plato gives it a date of like 10,600 BC, I believe, in laws three. It's for Homer, it's this myth or this age of the gods, this ancient time. One thing I find interesting is like, we have a cold case, right? Science, anthropology, archeology, they're a different kind of science. It's not like biomedicine or physics or math where you can keep repeating the same. Exactly. Right?

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So it's a more ephemeral, difficult science. And that's not to disparage professionals because it's really hard. So you've got to find a new site. You've got to carbon test. You've got to have things in context. There's a lot to it.

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Excuse me. So I, being the weirdo that I am, and I'm willing to go anywhere for a good story, and I bring in the clairvoyants, the psychics, Edgar Cayce, Rudolf Steiner, Madame Blavatsky, the Rosicrucians, the Freemasons. And what's stunning is every one of those groups or...

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mystics say that atlantis was a historical reality there was a cataclysm that destroyed it humans were originally androgynous a byproduct of genetic engineering by what does that word mean androgynous sexless beings you know kind of like my love life it's like It's either possessing two sets of sexual organs or none. You know, it's weird.

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Bingo. And it's tough to translate into this waking state that we appear to exist in. So people like, you know, what are those dudes talking about? But it's wild, as you know. And I did a ceremony in anticipation of coming here with the Shamanista this weekend. And we could talk about that later if you want or whenever.

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Even Plato says, you know, Aristophanes displays the myth of the ancient androgen, and Zeus cuts us down the middle. We were first androgynous. Plato talks about it. Plato talks about Atlantis as a historical reality. Plato talks about the immortality of the soul. So all these skeptics, I mean skeptics, psychics are... claiming the same strange and specific thing.

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And you could say, ah, maybe they just took information from each other, but it's like the Rosicrucians and Freemasons, they're kind of like tight to the vest with their info, you know? You read through their documents, you talk to people who are Rosicrucians and Freemasons, and they're like, they believe all their esoteric wisdom flows back through Egypt to Atlantis. So that's just interesting.

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So I'm open to these ideas. To get back to Aegidia, Madame Blavatsky said that Homer was correct. He was the first one. The Bard of Ulysses understood that Aegidia was Atlantis. So there's other... You could say, I don't believe in Atlantis. The Aztecs call it Aztlan. All these indigenous people have... Beliefs about a lost continent, Lemuria in the Pacific, Atlantis.

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I could get into play tectonics and that it might be somewhat of a flawed theory, but I don't want to because it's a long... I'm just saying, be open to the idea. And as a professional, it's like... you know, this is what I need. You know, we got to go over the mid-Atlantic range and we got to find this and this is the evidence I need.

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And, you know, I'll reference, you know, I'm not here fighting a proxy wolf of Graham Hancock. I like Graham a lot. Yeah. And he's the one who got me into like ayahuasca, so I'm indebted to him. And he's just pushing boundaries. He's a maverick and he's looking for, you know, Atlantis and this lost race. And that's cool because a lot of the mystics of old, like Plato, you ever wonder why his...

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um, his work is like almost so flawless. Albert North Whitehead says, Western thought is a series of footnotes to Plato. You know, Plato was a genius Pythagoras.

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Aristotle, Aristotle, the scientists of old were a blend of, of spiritual, uh, how do I say it? They were spiritual scientists.

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They engaged. They were all doing drugs, man. They were all doing like ethnogens. They were engaging in rituals. They were liberating themselves from the false self, from the judgments and the ego self. So thus they were well prepared and objective to take on both sides of the street, the invisible realms and the visible realms. And, you know, so it's like they did that.

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So the scientists of today would be it would be helpful. Like I say, skeptics are more afraid of ayahuasca than they are Atlantis. You know, I know I'm being a wise guy, but, and I don't even want to diss anyone.

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it's the same mechanism it's the same thing that keeps happening it's like wow it's you're tapping into another reality and i've done this like i i'm a non-dualist so i study like the upanishads the astavakra gita ramana maharashi lautsu jesus buddha like all these mystics that say the same strange and specific thing and radical thing about the nature reality so for months i just keep rereading the astavakra gita

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I'm just saying like, you know, you might want to mix in a little plant medicine ceremony or some metaphysical, usually like when you have trauma or somebody you love dies or some crazy happens, you get a portal into the other realm, you know? So some people get it that way. It's like, it shouldn't have to happen that way to, to see through the veil of this matrix, you know?

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so once again i would like a blending of spirituality and science that would be cool in my estimation and we'll see where it goes i think i think the trump election and i'm a moderate uh it's a repudiation of of some of these ideas of of uh grievance archaeology of of dictating through a

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virtue signaling cult like lens of what the past is like and how people should behave it's like all my lefty friends are like they feel like they get a walk on eggshells all the time or do i get my pronouns right do i get the right flag in my you know profile and all that it's like people want to be left the fuck alone you know what i mean like native americans voted in the largest democratic way yeah for trump yeah right so it's like

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I'm a cracker. I'm, you know, I'm whitey telling you and dictating what racism looks like and how to protect you. It's like, I don't, some of the most pragmatic people I know are native people, you know? Yes.

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No, no. It's funny because, you know, whatever. Like I said, I'm trying to be the goodwill ambassador for Lunatic Fringe, but it's like, here's the giant dude. You know, this cat's out of his fucking mind, you know? But it's like, I'm working with professionals. I've never got dissed in my face. You know what I mean? It's like, and I like a good debate. I don't want softballs.

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I want to figure out the truth for real. Right. I absolutely feel that. And it's a manufactured, you know, you can get into like the CIA, you know, go listen to Bobby Kennedy Jr. And, you know, they iced his father, they iced John. And my house was like a shrine to the Kennedys when we grew up, right? My parents grew up in East Boston. My mother was Irish Catholic.

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mlk john and bobby kennedy all over the freaking house yeah it was like the promise was that the democrats were going to deliver a world without war a world of sanity a world of respect for everyone right and then the left started falsely believing that's coming back if we get the right candidate if we get back in power and it never fucking happened biden passes the largest defense bill in human history um

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The left loves World War III now. We're fighting this fucked up proxy war in Ukraine. It is real. We're printing trillions of dollars in the U.S. because it's the reserve currency. That's what's causing inflation, not supply chain bottlenecks. And he's just like, you know, they had England and the United States Pulled Ukraine away from the peace negotiations, right?

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And then the Guardian, before it was a left-wing rag, was writing about that and cozying up to neo-Nazis and what, you know, the U.S. is hankering for World War III. And now it's just like, oh, the freedom fighters are taking on, you know, because... Putin has some conservative views about like LGBT people and stuff like that. And so he's become this demon.

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which is considered, it's an ancient Sanskrit text that's considered like the most mind-bending metaphysical text in history. And I kept rereading it and I got thrust into that state of the one of timelessness. And I'm like, so it's not just like, oh, this substance is altering your brain chemistry. There are ways through fasting and meditation and other modalities.

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And I've never heard him, he says like, I'm all for people believing what they want and doing what they want. I'm not gonna get into that debate. The moral of the story is like, you have this insidious control system that divides people. That's why they're easy to control. Like you said, you hold the door for someone, you give a about someone. And I felt it myself with the whole COVID thing.

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I got vaxxed, I got boosted because I thought I was being a good citizen. And then I'm taking a step back and I'm looking how people are treated like Aaron Rodgers. Is it Jokovic? Who was the tennis player? Nadal or whatever. Oh, I don't remember the tennis guy. And they're totally getting demonized, right? Like they're complicit in mass murder.

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And I'm like, so anyways, it happens on the right too. I don't want to get long, too late. I don't want to get too long winded. But I just want to say that you're absolutely right. Get the fuck off. unless you listen to your podcast. Get off the internet. Right. Get off. If you stop feeling like shit and you're addicted to outrage, it's a red flag, you know?

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pull string puppet who just repeats the same shit over and over again or can he hold a real conversation does he actually have real beliefs what you know what is he how does he think one thing is that the maverick thinkers in the democratic party have been pushed out rfk jr tulsi gabbard oh yeah they're not sociopaths you know they're they're um they're marketing conspiracy you know the trafficking conspiracy and all this right right

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My left friends, I was like, I like RFK Jr., man. He talks about- I love that guy. This is how the CIA was formed. This is how they operate. And I don't want to end up dead in a dumpster, but this cat is right on.

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That's insane. And Elon Musk comes out of the gate. It's like, the Wongas were coming after you, you know? And he's saying like, you know, Pfizer, Big Pharma, Bobby Kennedy Jr. saying, keep your receipts, you know? Like, that's not fascist. But, you know, Trump, like all of us, he's flawed. I admire, like...

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I'm like a recovering Catholic, you know, so I got all these hangups, you know, and it's like, I can only imagine being so embarrassed in the public eye, you know, all the trials and all the, like God, you know, having your, your past indiscretions brought up and stuff like that. The point is that,

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he's not pure evil and he's not sent by god to to save the world either you know be objective about it and like 97 percent of dc voted for harris right is that elitist out of touch or what you know you know what i'm saying like and that doesn't you know I don't want to dismiss her, but they were just looking, you know, the neocons got completely behind her.

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Dick Cheney, you're like the war machine, universally voted for, you know, she's out, you know, I'm not going to, well, whatever. She's not like savvy. She doesn't understand economic policy. She's kind of a figurehead. So this insidious plan can keep on rolling. We sell weapons around the world, you know, we're... leading to a path of destruction. So Trump's a hand grenade.

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As the mystics would say, it's like sahaja, your natural state. The ego state, the external searcher, the disaffected hungry ghost is not your real state. So it's removing the blocks to your awareness is enlightenment. It's not accessing or gaining something in the external world, right? So it's a different dynamic.

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We'll see what happens. But I would just say, you know, being in the middle and more objective is a much saner place to be.

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Because it's honest. It's like, I got my issues. I'm riddled with flaws. If I spend all my time demonizing someone, that's a fucking red flag, you know?

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Early on, he was one of the only critics of the Iraq war. You had all the Democrats lining up, all the Republicans.

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Yes. And I just got to say, Iraq war, Afghanistan war, once we start, you know, all this immoral superiority we feel as a country, man, our government acts in real bad faith, you know, mass murder. You know what I mean? We traffic weapons around the planet. We're not the good guys. You know what I mean? And enough of that. You know what I mean?

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That that. And we'll see where Trump goes. You know, he could go off the deep end. He could like really highlight, at least just to talk about it. Like we spend with 36 trillion in the hole. You know what that means economically? Right. The Fed raises interest rates. They hold it too long. Everything's cracking beneath the scene. We get the commercial real estate going on.

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We get the euphoria from the Trump election right now. Right. The 10-year market moving up, there's a lot. The bond market is the world's investment market. It's not the stock market. The bond market is huge. The Japanese and the Chinese are dumping them because of toxic debt with $36 trillion in the hole once again. So the 10-year, it's going to become more costly.

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We pay a trillion dollars a year in interest payments on our fucked up debt. We're like a cokehead kid who blew all the inheritance of our parents. And now we're like, and all this good economic data is fueled by spending, by its debt-fueled

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prosperity that has to end and it gets worse because now we're going to pay exponentially for the interest on the debt that's a long-winded way of saying we have an insidious system and and stop fighting left and right in c and demand at least a temporary world of peace as a springboard to awaken and get the out of the matrix you know what i'm saying like just demand peace you know i mean i don't give a who the candidate is talk about wars talk about what's going on you know

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shit on netanyahu is not the same as you know it gets conflated with anti-semitism i got jewish friends and they think he's a piece of shit you know what i mean of course right lots of them me too and he's a sociopath and he operates like we when i go to iraq or i go to egypt and you know i hope i'm not held accountable for the misdeeds of the u.s government you know what i mean just like

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I have to remove the false beliefs to rediscover what I already am, which is a blissful state, which is tough for people to believe. I get that because it's like... You live ten minutes in this world. It doesn't appeal like that. You know what I mean?

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Jewish people probably feel this disgust at how their government is operating, just like U.S. citizens abroad feel the same way. It's like, this doesn't represent me, man. So anyways, I don't want to go down that rabbit hole too much. I just want to express that, you know what I mean?

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be kind to each other and demand a better world, not based on judgment and addiction to being right, but like empathy, you know?

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Yeah, the autopsy of the Democratic strategy isn't going too well. There's not a lot of self-reflection. It's like, oh, we should have got... Biden should have dropped out earlier. Not like, what is your message? I could be a brilliant campaign strategist, but nobody would listen to me. They force out Bernie Sanders.

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I don't agree with his economic policies, but at least he's better than a lot they put out there. They push away RFK Jr. It's like...

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we're gonna work for people we're gonna work for you know you focus on economic needs you're gonna i'm gonna have republicans in my cabinet well you know we're gonna like work together in a bipartisan way for real none of that it's like the cult members the cult members who remain in the dnc are doubling down you know what i mean like like Trump, you know, he's a racist.

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He's going to like deport everyone. He's going to do all this evil. You know, so I hope what you're saying is right. But what we really need is a multi-party system that doesn't have political machinery and funding behind it. And term limits. And term limits. And Trump's been talking about that. So- Yeah, we'll see where it goes.

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This is just for people who like, you know, and I'm like a lefty my whole life because like I said, I had this- So was I. Yeah, this glorious dream of Bobby and John coming back and liberating us from the octopus, you know, and it didn't happen.

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I know it's rough. It's rough. Thankfully, my parents are in the other realm. But we never talk politics.

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That's true. And the intolerance that came out of left that I never dealt with, you know, I never saw that because, and it's not to shit on anyone. Cause there's a of intolerance on the right. There's like a religious cult thing of evangelical thing on the right. That that's, that's a little over the top. And there's more of an atheistic cult thing on the left, you know, and it is what it is.

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It's more like, you know, evaluate what's going on. This, this binary dynamic and how it doesn't work. I did want to, can we shift gears and talk about fish gods?

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No. It was like, back in there, you rub some dirt on it. You know, the coaches, they didn't understand what happened. You were right back in the game. Right back in the game, right with the swollen brain. And... I just bought a hyperbaric chamber, actually. I'm going to start doing it to access some of the frozen brain because it can't swell.

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Which is great, man. It's like, that is so seemingly absurd. I love it. Wasn't varicose fish god? Let me start, if you would indulge me, by quoting Carl Sagan. First of all, I'll say that all around the world, the wisdom keepers, the culture heroes of virtually every culture, they were androgynous, amphibious.

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brother and sister, husband and wife, self-fertilizing genetic engineers who taught the arts of civilization, repaired the heavens after a cataclysm, and have many other traits in common, which is like right off the bat. And these are cultures that had little or no contact. And I'll talk about your boy, Vera Koch, in a minute. So, let me put on my old man glasses here.

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And this is Carl Sagan, right? Okay. So, Alanis is the fish dude who shows up and teaches the arts of civilization that Berossus talks about, right? He has this strange bag. You see it in the Sumerian iconography, right? He's described by Berossus in 280 BC in Babylonica, right?

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We have his, which is no longer with us, but Eusebius of Caesarea and Alexander Polyhistor wrote about the work of Berossus in their works. So that's a long-winded way of saying he talks about how When, you know, in the early times, this fish being comes out of the river and teaches the arts of civilization to the ancient Sumerian people.

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And he's literally got like a fish's tail and a human aspect to it too. And that's what you see in that iconography. So we're being told that Alanis is one of these beings. And in fact, the seven Sumerian kings of the king's list that goes back 250,000 years- They all had an advisor who was a fish god, who was an androgynous amphibious fish god.

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And Ioannis was the first one for the first Sumerian king. And they lived these massive lifespans. Wow. So anyways, this is what our boy Carl Sagan, who I wish was around today. Yeah. He'd call out so much if he was around today. Oh, yeah. Stories like the Ioannis legend deserve more critical studies that have been... performed heretofore.

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Such hypotheses are entirely reasonable and worthy of careful analysis. So, you know, people can shit on me if they want, but I'm going off of what Sagan said about analyzing and trying to figure out the truth of fishy friends. Sumerian civilization is depicted by the descendants of the Sumerians themselves to be of non-human origin.

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A succession of strange creatures appears over the course of several generations. Their only apparent purpose is to instruct mankind. Each knows of the mission and accomplishment of his predecessors. That's the Apkallu, the seven generations of fish beings. So the story starts in Mali, Africa with the Dogon people. Professor Robert Temple wrote The Serious Mystery in the 70s.

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He's one of the most brilliant academics I've ever encountered.

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What is a hyperbaric chamber going to do for your brain? It frees up. It oxygenates the brain. And they say that when the injury occurs, you almost get cognitively frozen at a particular time when it happens. Excuse me, but... You know, the moral of the story is that it led me down this path. My movie character had to go down this path, you know?

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Robert Temple, Professor Robert Temple. He wrote The History of China with Newman, and the guy's freaking brilliant. So he wrote about the Dogon understood... supposedly about the binary nature of, of serious, like white dwarf, black dwarf stuff.

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So a lot of people got bogged down in the, like, then the Christian missionaries might've hooked him up with some idea about serious, for instance, like that, that's how they knew that. So this, I don't want to get bogged down in the controversy. What he really highlighted was that the normal, the eight are androgynous, amphibious, self-fertilizing and,

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wisdom bringers who taught the arts and civilization to the Dogon people. So self-fertilizing means you like literally procreate out of yourself. That sounds bizarre, right? Self-fertilization. So let's go over and then remember what Sagan had to say. We go over to Samaria. Now, give me a sec to talk about Sitchin, right? Zacharias Sitchin wrote about the Anunnaki gods, they're extraterrestrials.

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Nibero comes around every 3,600 years. I don't want to shit on him because he's not here to defend himself, but he created this science fiction kind of version where he had some things right. The Sumerians... The Anunnaki, as far as the documents and the cuneiform tablets are concerned, created humans. They are genetic engineers.

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But Nibera was like a mistranslation of Nipur in the library of Nineveh. So he created this compelling, but not necessarily factual, or you can't fact check what he had to say. So the skeptics glom onto that and like, this is all a fairy tale. It's like, no. Go back to the original translators and finders like H.V. Hilprecht worked for the University of Pennsylvania in the 1800s, late 1800s.

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He was an Assyriologist. He unearthed the Library of Nineveh. He found tens of thousands of cuneiform tablets. And in his book, The Expeditions of the University of Pennsylvania in Babylon, him and his colleague, Hugo Radeau, who got his PhD from Columbia in the 1870s, They wrote about the androgynous nature of all Sumerian gods.

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They are self-fertilizing androgynous beings that beget out of themselves. So he's highlighting the fact that all the Sumerian gods are self-fertilizing androgens, which is fucking wild, right? It's like that level of specificity. Now let's go over to Egypt. And on the temple... at the Horus Temple, the Edfu text, which we had talked about, right?

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I got no social life, so it's two in the morning, and I'm reading the old French translations of the Edfu text. I'm reading Eve Raymond, right, the highly regarded Egyptologist. She writes about the Adoad, the eight. Now, remember the eight of the Nomo? In Dogon? Yep. The Ogdoad and the Eniad are brother and sister, husband and wife, self-fertilizing androgens who teach the arts of civilization.

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They're wisdom bringers. And three different passages on the Edfu text talk about the self-fertilizing nature of the gods, of the androgynous gods. They beget out of themselves. They are born without the mother. You know, it's like clear that they are self-fertilizing androgens on the temple walls of... of Ed Fu, right? So you have this theme that is carried to China. Who creates humans?

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Fuxi and Nuwa. And Robert Temple writes about it. He wrote the history of China with, I forget his colleague's name, Joseph Newman, I think. So anyways, Temple says that the Chinese people firmly believe that a fishtailed, androgynous, humanish hybrid, brother and sister team twins created the Chinese civilization. They taught marriage. It seems like a genetic experiment.

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We're going to teach you animal husbandry, the arts of civilization, marriage. We're going to control the population. So in all the tombs, you have the brother and sister with the entwined tails of Fuxi and Nuwa, all of the ancient Chinese tombs. You can go to Wikipedia. They firmly believe that. that these androgynous, amphibious, self-fertilizing beings were the culture heroes.

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And I'm grateful for it as twisted and painful as it's been. And I have a lot of empathy for people with depression because I had this crippling... I couldn't move for weeks. It was like painting my world black and gray.

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And then we go to Peru, for instance. Veracocha emerges from Lake Titicaca. He is covered in fish scales at the Bennett Monolith. His wife and sister and twin, Mamacocha, is also amphibious and androgynous. And there were temples all around Lake Titicaca that were documented before the Spanish destroyed them of her as like half human, half fish tailed, right?

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So it's this story's carried over to Peru And he creates humans. All these beings are genetic engineers. He creates the giants, destroys them in a flood like Yahweh in the Bible, who's androgynous. And you have the same story play out across the ocean. So I'll just go, I'll give a couple more. Sedna and Inuit lore. in Greenland of all places, is androgynous and amphibious.

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And you go find this freaking stuff on Wikipedia. It's not like I'm cherry picking the data. And Sedna, Isis, and Kybel, one of the oldest goddesses in Asia Minor, Artem Pasa, and so many others were served by cross-dressing gay and transgender priests. like showing that, you know, that androgynous gender fluidity, if you will, this reverence for the androgyny.

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And the oldest temples on earth display the double-headed idol of the androgen. Jericho, Ayin Gazal, they just found one at Karahan Tepe. Ered Zifer is an Egyptian archeologist. In 2007, she wrote the first Adam, Ein Gazal, and the two-headed statues that were found at Ein Gazal in like 8,000 BC.

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The moral of the story, she's saying that ancient people firmly believed that the first humans were androgynous and that the gods and the engineers were androgynous, and they had displayed in the iconography of the oldest cities on earth. And then I told her, you know, they just found a double-headed androgynous idol at Karahantepe.

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did they did can you find this a picture of this steve uh hugh newman uh it's it's uh probably has it in his uh oh yeah hugh probably talked about this when he came in so it's a long-winded way of saying wow isn't that a bunch of levels of specificity between cultures that had little or no contact, describing the culture heroes that taught them the arts of civilization in that similar way.

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You know, that catches my attention. I don't have a freaking time machine. Who knows? Sagan's saying check it out.

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I would get waves of petty, grand mal seizures that required medication and hospitalizations and massive depression for weeks on end. The moral of the story is I then went to meet with the shamans in Ecuador and do a series of ayahuasca ceremonies for many weeks. And I came back and healed the seizure disorder. I never took medication again. I got off the Dilantin, the Depakote, the Neurontin.

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humans uh revered by these cultures were androgynous you know aristophanes displays the myth of the ancient androgen cultures around the world oh i was going to say masha silverblatt

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Professor from Duke University writes specifically that there is no doubt that Vera coach is androgynous All these like in academic will tell you these people believed that these were real beings who were androgynous You could say I don't believe it.

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It's a mythology But the traits that I discussed are an academic will tell you yes This is exactly what was being said there and the iconography is remarkably similar at all these places as well as if You know, this is like Hancock I don't want to speak for him, right? But he's like, even in the show, he's talking about Awanis, he's talking about Veracocha, right?

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He's getting, he's beating around this bush of like androgynous fish gods showing up and being the wisdom bringers. It's such a strange concept. So he's like, oh, Jesus Christ, I'm so far on the limb anyways. I don't know his mind, but maybe he's like, I'll just keep it as like some lost wandering beings who teach civilization. Because if I get into the fish gods, watch out.

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But he's the one who kind of pointed me in that direction along with Sagan, you know? So... To your point about Allegro, I've read all this stuff, and I think it was off base in some, but like mermaid literally means virgin of the sea, right? Thoth, he born without a mother. The pyramid texts in Egypt. Utterance 534, Neith, who is androgynous. Oh, I'm sorry, Nephthys. Her... born without a vulva.

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You know, basically, it's not a real world, what is it, housewives of Egypt diss. It's like claiming that she is androgynous. She is a self-fertilizer. All these beings are described as having, they don't procreate in the same way as we do. Excuse me. So anyways, see, it's like, oh, you believe in mermaids, you're a f***ing idiot. You know what I mean?

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That's how a skeptic would take this whole thing. But my boy Sagan is saying it's worthy of further investigation. And you would look around these traditions, and I'm not a hyper-diffusionist. I don't think there was contact between all these cultures. How could they envision and come up with so similar, like brother and sister, husband and wife traditions?

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Yeah. Well, thanks for being open to that. Hopefully, I know a lot of people who suffer similar things.

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Let me, if you would indulge me for a second, the idea of the cripple God, right? Androgynous Zeus, androgynous Hera, throw androgynous Hephaestus, the, the, uh, iron worker of the gods off Mount Olympus because he is so deformed. He is limp, right? So the doctors have looked into it like, was Hephaestus, did he have arsenic poisoning? They're looking for like a worldly way to describe it.

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So then we go over to Japan and the two brother and sister gods throw Abisu. I mean, they cast Abisu out because he's crippled.

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he's a fish god and then you go to egypt and you have pata and you have osiris who always has his legs wrapped and mummified he cannot walk plutarch tells us that he gave birth in a self-fertilizing way to his next next incarnation who was horus whose literal name means like fish god of of our our earth or something like that right

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I know, you know, I don't want to like go up Rain Man here, but when you, the scope of this, there are so many kind of hidden in plain sight aspects of this mystery. I think it demands further investigation. These are the gods who are the genetic engineers who created humans. Because people like, I'm down with UAPs, you know, Giorgio says like, The idea is aliens didn't build the pyramids.

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Who are the gods? You know, that's what he talks about. But it's like, how do I portray you in the most kind of hurtful and disrespectful manner? You're a moron. You think the like alien creatures built the pyramids, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Instead of. No, who are the gods?

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Salim Hassan, considered the greatest Egyptologist, Egyptian archaeologist, I should say, in history, wrote in 1949 in the Sphinx that the Egyptian people themselves firmly believe that there was a succession of great gods that ruled for tens of thousands of years, right? So Salim Hassan says that. Menetho, who we use...

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The dynastic classification system, starting with Menas in around 3100 BC, academics use that and agree that he's got it right, but the time of the gods and the time of the followers of Horus, which is 13,900 and 11,000 years, are considered mythological. So when I go to Egypt, I hang out with my boy, Yousef Awan.

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He's a super solid dude. You know, you've got to spread a lot of back sheets around. You've got to know people when you travel in Egypt.

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His dad was the great wisdom keeper. Hakeem Awan, right? So what does he have to say? What are the ancient traditions of Egypt have to say that there was a time of the gods?

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That was older that was like 10,000 years older and older right not In the main, you know, so we have this is a great racist argument thing There are people there are Edgar Cayce people who think the pyramids were built in 10,000 BC Yousef goes around and he shows how is that racist to say the pyramids were built in 10,000 BC.

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Because somehow you're saying that the Egyptians couldn't have pulled it off themselves.

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But, you know, the Egyptians did incredible things, you know, like that we know of, like in Ptolemaic times, we know about Karnak, on and on and on. All's I'm saying, or anybody who would take an alternative approach, is that the traditions state that the Sphinx, the Great Pyramid Complex, and probably the Aserion, right near Abydos from an earlier time. I think Yusef would say that too.

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So that goes to this like, and they found all these voids in the Great Pyramid, right? Yes. Robert Schock and Thomas Zubecki found a void

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under the power of the sphinx so it's like i don't know if the freaking pyramid is 25 it's inconclusive in my estimation but maybe it's 10 000 years old who the knows right let's get in there and see let's do x uh explorations because if there's something that is datable within the great pyramid it would be contemporaneous with the date either 2500 bc or 10 000 bc

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and like robin shock would say the weathering pattern on the sphinx is showing a much earlier antiquity but that's just one piece of information you cannot extrapolate and say that proves that egyptian civilization is 10 000 years old you need artifacts carbon dating in context so i'm like you know i'm always pitching shows at different networks and i'm like

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I dig the idea of excavating under the power of the Sphinx. I like the search for the Lost Hall of Records idea. Who knows? I don't have a time machine. Don't you think people would dig that? You know what I mean? Like, let's find out once and for all.

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I'm a stonemason by trade. So my brother and I run a dry mason's business in Weston, Mass. Are you a Freemason? No, no. Yeah, people ask that. No, it's like, I study Freemasonry and Rosicrucianism. I think they're interesting. You know, we build our projects, utilitarian projects with quarried stone. We redo old walls. We've been at it for like 25, 30 years.

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And then we could like banish this realm of pseudo-archaeology that it's claimed that like, there's no basis in this because a lot of the Atlantis myth is tied into survivors showing up. in Egypt, these gods, these bizarre androgens.

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That has a lot to do with this, the dating and the Atlantis myth. So let's see. Let's do it, you know?

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I was supposed to speak with Zahi and Mark Lerner at the Casey conference like three years ago, but it was so I didn't get to meet him to talk to him. The whole thing is fascinating. I'll give a little background on Casey. I just spoke there again at the ARE. And I love the Casey people. They're not like glassy-eyed zombies. They're like really cool. They're empathic. They're all about healing.

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Anyways, Casey was born in 1877 near Hopkinsville, Kentucky. And he basically would go into this trance-like state and give health readings for people.

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Top of a book or the book under his head and then woke up and knew all the information in the book That was actually I think it was his father was telling me to do his study So we slept on the book right and then just every pay he would open the page and know it John Van Auken is like runs the Casey Center there and he's got all the kinds of stories And I just did a bio for on Edgar Casey for ancient aliens last season.

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I actually came out really good so the moral of story is that Casey would give these health readings. He would claim to tap in, not him, but just like to tap into the Akashic records of all existence. But then he started talking about past lifetimes, Atlantis, ancient Egypt, and in his waking life, he was kind of like a conservative Christian and all he did was like read the Bible and stuff.

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So he was really kind of bummed out, but then he just went with it and all these readings came out, 14,000 readings, 25 million words, it's all documented at the Cayce Foundation. So Cayce said Atlantis existed in the middle of the Atlantic, Founded in 210,000 BC. Talks about three cataclysms in 5028 and the final Younger Dryas one, 12,000 BC. So he has this timeline of Atlantis.

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And I just find it interesting because Cayce got things wrong about future predictions for sure that he made. And he got things right that he should never have known about. So he's the perfect for me case study. I'm not dogmatic, but I'm intrigued. Jonas Salk said, intuition points to where the thinking mind should look next, right?

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And something about the Cayce material rings true to me, and we'll see. Like the idea of Egypt being older or stuff like that. So Hakeem Awan, I can imagine, was connected to the Cayce material. universe, but in a karmic sense, when you think in these terms, I think of like these beings keep orbiting each other in different lifetimes, right?

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So you have Zowie Hawass, Mark Lerner, they were both supported by the Casey Foundation. Hawass went to UPenn. Lerner's education was paid at Chicago, I believe, an archeological degree. And Lerner wrote a book, his parents were Cayce people, about kind of proving the Cayce material through the lens of archeology and mysticism. But then he went against that and he became a mainstream Egyptologist.

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And one of the things we like, we're avid hikers. And so we're out in the woods and we keep seeing these constructions that were thought to be colonial, that are more seemingly Native American, anthropomorphic forms, cairns, turtles, serpents. And I'm like, whoa, this seems to be like this subtle Native American landscape of stone hidden in New England.

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But they still have this connection. So they were on the other... They played for the other team, but they're deeply connected to the Casey Foundation. Right. And then you have Shock, Robert Shock. You have Hancock, Boval. You know, all these people that are kind of floating in this Atlantis milieu. You know what I mean? I'll throw myself in there. You know what I mean?

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Just a little humble brag that... I'm connected somehow to the KC material and the people. And I just think it's cool in this kind of karmic orbiting of different beings trying to unravel the story. It's just... It tickles my fancy.

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Yeah, I'm friends with Chris. He does an origins conference in London. And I got to tell you, he's a funny man, like behind the scenes. Oh, he's hilarious.

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Michael Cremo, too. Forbidden History. I think that's a book he wrote. He's another. Because people don't know the personalities of some of these guys. I love Chris. I think, yeah, it might have been a multi-purpose use, right? I think we all believe it wasn't a tomb, you know? There's no adornment. There's no hieroglyphics.

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And I wasn't the first one to, I found out I wasn't the first one to draw that conclusion. And other researchers have wrote about it. So what I did was, because I'm kind of a Rain Man record keeper type of guy, I went to the UMass library and started reading the town and county histories to see if there were any occurrences of colonists showing up.

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You get into the Howard Vice, 1834, seemingly forged cartouche and stuff like that. He's looking for funding. He's using dynamite. He's a piece of shit, you know? Right. So... And it's fine. You know what I mean? See, I know Zowie gets a lot of shit, but he pushes back because they've robbed antiquities from Egypt.

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They portrayed the Egyptian people in really bad ways over time, you know, science has. So I dig where he's coming from. I would just say... I think the archaeologists would agree with this.

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I think the world government should lay out about 20 billion a year and do archaeological digs around the world, especially at this point in history, and figure out our past, because there may be clues within the past about ways to understand our true nature and understand what's going on in time and space, all those big questions. But my point is, Let's excavate under the power of the Sphinx.

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Let's get into the Great Pyramid as much as possible. Let's excavate all around the Giza Plateau. If you're interested in this, my boy Trevor Grassi and William Brown spoke at the Casey Conference. William bought a piece of land near the pyramid, and they do have like a three-series video set on YouTube about it. Beneath Gaza, no, the underworld of Gaza. For anybody listening who's into the story.

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Of Giza? Of Giza, yeah. So they're looking for the Lost Hall of Records. They're not dogmatic, they're just following the traditions and stuff like that. So the moral of the story is like, a lot of people don't believe the pyramid was a tomb, so let's find out.

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Totally, and it's part of that cult-like belief system. It's like, this is a belief of my ideological enemy. I'm not going to give anything to this. It's even like, you know, I'm a stonemason with engineering experience, and you look at like Gobekli Tepe and Karahan Tepe, these, Hugh probably talked about it, 12,000-year-old sites.

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It's not impossible technology, but it's like incredible work that requires like feeding this huge population and skilled masons and all kinds of organization, right? through a civilization or a society of hunter gatherers. That's where Hancock gets like, was there a transfer of technology or at the same time?

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Because it springs up everywhere and the massive scale of it in Turkey now is just like incomprehensible how much of it is. But the skeptics, because they don't want to yield, they don't want to give anything to Hancock. It's just like, there's some rudimentary stonework, instead of an embracing how up it is and how like paradigm shifting it is, you know?

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So I would like more honest, objective evaluation. Like let's take Hancock. He starts off in the nineties or the late eighties. He has his hypothesis. There's a cataclysm. And there's a lost civilization that's destroyed that goes around the world and teaches the arts to civilization.

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And lo and behold, we find the evidence for his cataclysm supported by an international team of scientists called the Younger Dryas Impact Hypothesis. And if it wasn't considered a mythological and religious idea, it would have been accepted like 20 years ago. If you look at the evidence, it's pretty incontrovertible in my estimation.

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and documenting pre-existing Native American walls and stone chambers and other structures. And in fact, they are in the historical record. So the colonists found Native American stonework in New England. Like other, you know, it's not a great, you know, like incredible because there were stone forts in Tennessee, in the Midwest. We know all about all the Kivas and stuff.

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And then we find a super civilization in Turkey that's 12,000 years old. That was one of the main things, arguments against Robert Shark. I am saying the weathering indicates like a 10,000-year-old date for the Great Pyramid, I mean the Sphinx. He sits with Mark Lerner and he gets scorn poured upon him. There is no...

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contemporaneous uh advanced culture or civilization or temple sites around the world that meet a 10 000 year old date and then it happens right and i don't think the apologies came rolling in and the same thing with hancock it's like you have an eight well you know i don't agree with your theory but

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You predicted or what came to support your theory has been evidence for a cataclysm and civilization being vastly older, right? You start there. Now, for me to buy what you're selling, I need to see more than just a thought from Plato that may or may not be true. I need to see this evidence and that evidence. But then you start shitting on them and calling them racist or all this unhinged stuff.

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Then you're losing the audience, right? Then you're like... That's not cool. You know what I mean? Right. And instead of like a scientist, once again, got to be like a cop. You deal with a lot of weirdos, you take a lot of shit, but you get the respect of objectivity. Science is apolitical. We need these dates. This is what we need to see. And I just say that, you know, because...

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Well, in the shortcomings of the alternative space, there's no peer review. You got an audience who wants to believe that you can fool and grift off of. There's a lot of flaws. There's not a critical analysis of everybody's theories oftentimes, but there are strengths too. There's intuition.

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There are a lot of people who are oriented towards metaphysics because a lot of people get into ancient mysteries because they are interested in spirituality and metaphysics. Like Megan Fox, for instance, she liked my show. So she had me on her show, which is kind of- Megan Fox, the actress? Yeah, Megan. She did a- Really? Yeah, Legends of the Lost.

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A couple of years ago, she did a one season show. And the last episode was about the Clovis Barry and giants and stuff like that. So we were talking and we became friendly. Really? Yeah, yeah. She's really cool. She's into Edgar Cayce. She's into metaphysics.

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Yeah. So we communicated back and forth. The first thing she said to me is like, I don't want to incarnate again. I don't want to tell stories out of school, but these are like glowing reviews of her as a person. So I don't think she'll mind. So she said, I don't want to incarnate anymore. She said, I'm into the Casey material.

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I'm into ancient mysteries, but the rest of the world bores me to tears. You know what I mean? And I said, I agree. It's like, what's our real nature? She asked about ayahuasca. I said, you don't want to incarnate again. Go read Disappearance of the Universe by Gary Renard, right? He's a non-dualist teacher.

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And it's about the false and temporary nature of the matrix and our true nature and stuff like that.

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and it's hardcore and it's radical because that is what non-dualism is it's like you are not a body you are a field of awareness outside of time and space with no concrete specificity like the false and temporary matrix i know it's mind-bending yeah but every mystic throughout human history says the same thing so i said read the book megan she reads it i mean she sucked it up in no time disappearance the universe by gary nod she gets back to me and she's like i'm in the gym the other day i'm looking in the mirror

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But the thought, the archeological idea is that Native Americans didn't build with stonework in New England. Right. So by virtue of reading through all these town and county histories, I started to find the most bizarre giant skeleton accounts.

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and I'm flipping the out and my image is disappearing. And she's like, I understand intellectually everything that's being said, but look, I'm a mother of three kids. I'm in my early thirties. I got a, what is it in the matrix when you go back in, you take the blue pill or the red pill. She's like, I'm not ready for this. And I said, I dig that. And I'm not going to like push it.

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I'm just going to say the seed has been planted and you'll probably come back around to this because it's like, when you hear the truth, it's like a Zen koan. right what's the sound of one hand clapping that's not a question to be answered it is a question to dissolve the questioner the false egoic self so her appearance is of is disappearing right and that she's having the zen koan effect

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like you ever see jim carrey talk in a dissociative way about his movie character like he's like he's starting to move towards enlightenment so he's talking about jim carrey the separate being as if it's a movie character right and i've studied my brother and i studied with like an enlightened spiritual teacher for 20 years like And you're like, what is that?

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Liberated from fear in this blissful state. You're like, how the do I get there? And the point is that he encourages almost a dissociative orientation around your movie character. Don't take yourself too seriously. You have karma to play out. Your true nature is benevolent anyway. So if you're really in alignment, you'll do nothing but good deeds anyways.

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It's only the twisted whispers of the ego that leads you down the wrong path. So Jim Carrey talks about this dissociative... in a dissociative way about his movie character. It's really interesting. And people are like, oh, he's a fucking victim of MK ultra or whatever. It's like, no, he's starting to move towards enlightenment. And that's what happens.

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Like, and these are the lifetimes where you get, you deal with all this, you deal with all this trauma, you reflect, you forgive. And then next time you cut, you have to show up in the matrix. Your parents are like mystics or whatever. You like, you've undone so much. And then you flip the switch like Eckhart Tolle, right? Like he came into this life. You're like power.

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Now I can't fucking focus, you know, but he came into this life ready to be switched on or switched off, I should say. And that's what the mystics say that you undo. You keep coming back to the matrix until you break the cycle reincarnation, but you undo all is that is false about you. And that's the book Megan read. It's just like you undo the disappearance of the universe by Gary Renard. Um,

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often by anatomists, scientists of the time, Smithsonian Bureau agents, like buried obscurely in these voluminous documents in a time of inefficient communication. And I was told quickly, these were all hoaxes.

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But it's not like the Course in Miracles is this kind of new channeled non-dualistic teaching, which is interesting, but the Advaita Vendanta, the Rebu Gita, the Ashtavakra Gita, all these texts throughout history, the teachings of Lao Tzu, Ramana Maharshi, even Jesus in the Nag Hammadi Scrolls,

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the apocryphon of john he comes to john and he speaks about the inexpressible one the field of existence in completely non-dualistic ways go read it he's like uh eastern mystic you know not the jesus of kind of the evangelical movement he's been transformed the gospel of thomas who elaine pagels talked about the the shortest passages be passerby Leave everybody alone.

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Do not try to change anything. Bless, forgive, turn the cheek. You are making it real by conflict and judgment. You are experiencing a false and temporary, and you can make whatever you want about the sojourn. It's time and space, right? People have different ideas. God made man so man could become God.

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You know, these theories of like, oh, God wouldn't know what it was like to like turn his ankle and see a sunset, whatever. You know what I mean? Like, and it's not like a white dude in the throne. The God is the field, the field that you are. That's what the mystics say. The point is. I think it's worthwhile pointing to our eternal nature and then make of it what you want.

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Because we could talk intellectually about this all day long, but all these teachings and ceremonies are geared towards the experience, the literal visceral experience of what you already are. So when you break through and you're in the zone of the one, you're in the field, all doubt is cast away. You don't even want to describe it. You don't even want to think.

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It's a realm without thought and time. It's fucking crazy. And it's awe-inspiring and enthralling. So I could talk shit all day, but it's like, what can you do in your life to get you back to your real nature? And the mystics would say, forgive everything. Don't do it out of phony goodness. You're already perfect. So I don't want anything out. I don't want anything transactional out of you.

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I'm like, they reference a lot of the same anatomic anomalies, double rows of teeth, massive jaw bones that fit over the face, femurs that are 28 and 32 inches long, which are clearly indicating eight, nine foot tall individuals. artifacts found within context in little known burial techniques described as well.

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I don't want to manipulate you to get an extra hit. I don't want to look for my soulmate on Tinder. You know what I mean? I want to treat people for what they are, which is divine and forgive. And what I don't, I'm being a fraud and a piece of shit, you know, and a hypocrite. And you don't condemn yourself though. You're like, you kind of laugh at your movie character. Totally.

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So, so I know I went on a long rant there, but you know, that's where I'm coming from.

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Absolutely. I've experienced that. A mystic would also say, you're not going to experience all your lifetimes at once because you would, it would be overload. You'd have a nervous breakdown, but you can't, you know, why are there some psychics, you know, there's some bad artists and grifters out there, but there's some psychics. whose game is pretty tight, who have a good track record, right?

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So it's like, what are they doing to happen in the past and the future? It's because Einstein would say, it's a false construct in a false world for whatever purpose. It could be the experience. One of the shamans that I've studied with and did ceremonies with, he says, there's a beauty in forgetting.

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It's like when you re-realize, you know, you're in this blissful state of eternity and like it's incomprehensible, but it's almost kind of a cool game to forget because when you remember what you really are, it's like so are inspiring. It's beyond comprehension. You know what I'm saying?

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Because one of the arguments is like, these are mastodon bones or animal bones, but no, these are burial mound finds that have contextual context that matches with a lot of Native American burials, but they're absolutely enormous. Like the giants in the middle and there's other burials like spokes of a whale. So I'm like, this doesn't read as a hoax. This doesn't make any logical sense, right?

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I thought I was this hopeless piece of shit, but I'm this glorious divine being that has to do nothing to be what I already am. Right.

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So I don't know about the nature of that. I'll just say that. On a worldly level, it's worth looking into psychedelics. Are they letting us go into other dimensions? Are they showing us our true nature? You have Johns Hopkins just built like a $17 million research facility. End stage cancer patients are losing the fear of death, right? It's like, this is the that we need in our society.

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We don't want to demonize it. That's why I like Hancock again. He's always like pointing to psychedelics And it's hard, man. Have you ever done ayahuasca?

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It's like, stop the ride, I want to get off. It's really rough.

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Pretty much. The demon's your own. Well, you know, there's third parties in the room too. That's another strange thing. Like the spirit, like if you do ketamine infusions, which are very helpful for like intractable depression, there isn't a third party and there isn't a spirit being there. But ayahuasca, they call it like grandmother. It's like this.

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and super computer intelligence knows exactly what you need and will kick you in the balls you know what i mean like i think it's like it or she or whatever is seeing that there's a limited window to get to you right because most people run from these things yeah and it's like this is what you need to see you want to heal you got to face this darkness you got to face

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the ugliness in your subconscious that hasn't been healed, that's been calcified with trauma and false beliefs and self-hatred. And it's a deep dive, but then the liberation, then you're like, it's unicorns and rainbows out the other end. Oftentimes you're like, oh my God, I feel liberated. I feel a weight. I feel like my soul's come back to me, you know, which is cool.

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But it takes some sack to get in there and do it. You know what I mean? And it takes like, it's not a weekend seminar that's going to heal your problems. It's the little changes you take every day, every day, like you catch yourself. Oh, man, I'm back on Twitter. I'm back on Facebook. I feel like... I'm worried. I'm filled with fear. I'm filled with survival concerns.

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I'm filled with emptiness and heartbreak and depression. And that's fine, man. Everybody, because we're in an unnatural state in this configuration as a temporary movie character that fucking dies eventually and gets sick and all this crazy shit.

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we are plagued with psychological difficulties so have empathy for people and there's another thing you know people think they're like good online and that they're helping and they're educating and they're fixing and just like the vision i had it's just like you just blow and smoke up each other's nothing good is happening if you really want to be helpful Lao Tzu says it.

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Look at all that is dark and unhealed within yourself. Ramana Maharshi, the greatest social activist in human history, does nothing compared to the seeker who forgives, who evaluates their own weaknesses and liberates themselves through forgiveness. And I found that Go work at the homeless shelter. You know what I mean?

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Literally, there's got to be a family in your neighborhood that would be thrilled if you showed up with a freaking bag of groceries every week. And this isn't a diss, but see where you're a cokehead looking for another hit on social media versus true empathy. Like, look somebody in the eye and do something kind for them. And that's not a judgment, because I've been in the cokehead zone, you know?

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And then when I act out of empathy, you know, we... a couple of buddies of mine, we call the Hilltown helpers. We live in the Hilltowns and we're always like shoveling off old lady's roofs and shit like that. You know what I mean? Like really, you know, some old lady hasn't seen anyone in a while and you sit down and you talk to her and you're kind to her and you do, and she's like,

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uh oh let me pee and it's like no no that's not what this is about you know and it's those acts of empathy that really have an impact you know oh for sure when you look back at your life review you're gonna be pissed if you didn't do more and not more in a fake way more in like a loving empathic way and that's true you can say that this dude is like uh you know

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So I went down that road. I started to write. I hooked up with Hugh Newman, my co-author and buddy. And the gods lined up that I ended up with the show on history. A producer who's a friend of mine in Western Mass said, hey, my buddy told me to check out this presentation you gave or something, book I wrote or whatever. No, no, I'm sorry. It was a presentation I gave.

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We got a pitch. Oh, yeah, I want to give a tip of the hat. If you dig this fish god story, Paul Anthony Wallace is a friend of mine, and he wrote the Eden series. Paul, he's Australian. He's an awesome dude. He's a former archdeacon in the Anglican Church for 32 years. That's one level below Bishop.

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He left the church, and he's writing about how in these ancient documents and ancestral narratives, there are these bizarre, androgynous... And, you know, genetic engineers that I talk about that are in the Old Testament, Yahweh has a consort called Asherah. They're androgens, right? The first Adam in the Bible is androgynous, and then Eve is made androgynous.

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you know, through genetic engineering. That's that parable there. Anyways, um, he tells us this wonderful story throughout human history. He's half Ghanese. I think he's like half Welsh or English. And he's connected to all the African ancestral tales that tell the same story that I've been sharing about Veracocha and Fushi. It's utterly fascinating. And he's a really solid dude on top of that.

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I mean, I'm sure you'll have him on at some point, but the Eden series is highly acclaimed. Uh, It's like this new version of the ancient astronaut theory almost. But he's brilliant. I can't talk his game up. So anyways, we're kind of collaborating and we get a pitch into one of the networks right now as a Search for the Lost Records

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investigation of the ancient gods that I've talked about here type of show. Go to Ed Fu and look at the Lost Hall records. And I'm also writing a book about polydactylism in the ancient world. Extra digits, right? Six fingers, six toes. It's associated with the supernatural, the divine, and giants. The giant of Gath has six fingers and six toes.

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In Australia, you have rock art everywhere of giant feet with six toes. I was just touring with Hugh in Malta. We go to the Hypogeum in Malta, considered the underground temple, once thought to be one of the oldest temples on earth before they found Gobekli Tepe. They, through construction building in like 1906 or something, they broke through to it.

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You go to room 20, there's an enormous handprint with six fingers there. You go out to the American Southwest, there are giant hands and feet with extra digits. You go to North Carolina, there's Judicola Rock, where the Cherokee talk about the legend of Judicola. And there's a seven fingered handprint.

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handprint the greatest hero of the ulster cycle in ireland in the tain the english iliad has seven fingers and seven toes in the oxford translation just throw out a couple more you go to botswana matt singh emerges from the underworld with humans and animals and there's a giant six-toed um footprint there or engraving there.

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And then you go to Karabati and on the island, there are giant, almost beyond belief, six-toed footprints that the old men told anthropologist I.G. Turbert in 1949 about. They are attributed to the giants. So the world is littered with giant hands and giant feet associated with these giants that the indigenous people tell us about. So that's another like... I know it's, yeah, here you go.

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And he became more interested in the subject because like my brother and I, you know, blue collar dudes, I think people look at us and like, you know, I'm not blowing smoke up anybody's ass. I really don't have an agenda. I just find it fascinating. Right. Right.

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Like, see the giant foot in Newspaper Rock? On the left is Chaco Canyon. On the right is Newspaper Rock in Utah. Look at that, you know.

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It's a rare genetic condition. Yeah. And some people are born with extra digits.

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Exactly. And... But... It's associated with giants. It's associated with the supernatural. The sorcerers, exorcists, and temple priests of Sumeria were obsessed with polydactylism. The Summa Ibzu is a series of 2,800 tetralogical omens, and they talk obsessively about what it means to have six fingers born on one hand, six on the other. The giant of Gath, once again, has six fingers and six toes.

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And there is no genetic condition that associates polydactylism with gigantism. Really? Yeah. So it's like, I get that if some freakazoid has a bunch of extra digits in ancient culture, might say, oh, this dude's a god or whatever. Yeah. But it's everywhere associated with literal giant rock art of hands and feet. It's wild. Yeah. in cultures that had no connection.

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You go out to Baja, California, El Carmen Cave, Google that.

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I'll say this, Professor Paul Tasson in Australia, I think the University of Kimberley, a couple of years ago, there was this story that went around the world that like world's oldest ancient narrative found in Australia, this Aboriginal super ancient narrative. It was the Pleiades, it was the serpent, but it was also giant feet with six digits, right?

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And so it's like, even the History Channel execs that when we got the first show, it's like, I've never seen two guys seemingly so credible talk about such outrageous things, you know?

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So Professor Tasson actually wrote a paper about how he found these examples of, giant hands and feet with extra digits, like in all these cultures around the world. And if you look at it, if you go to Mara, Mara Wonga, Mara Wonga, Professor Tasson, T-A-C-O-N, giant footprint, six toes.

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It could be that, you know, it's like, well, that's 200 million years ago in granite, so I don't think a giant stepped in it. It could be the indigenous people carved it.

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But then it raises its own kind of mystery because, yeah, if you could throw up Marawanga, Australia, six-toed footprints, I know that's a lot, and we'll see if we get a picture of that. The moral of the story is the androgyny that I spoke of and the polydactylism are displayed in the iconography of the oldest cities on earth.

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Ayan Gazal, Jericho, and they just found a 16-fingered statue at Karahantepe. Me, Andrew Collins, and Hugh Newman did an episode for Ancient Islands about it where... say what you want, but these people revered this trait, right? So Seyberç is another place that was just unearthed that's super ancient in Turkey. And the dude's holding up his hand, he has six fingers.

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And the professor who did the excavation, Karul from Istanbul University, he said, what did he say? The statues of the humanoids always have extra digits or a strange number of digits, never five. So the thing I'm talking about is being unearthed in real time at the oldest sites on the planet. Androgyny, polydactylism, make of it what you want.

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So I, you know, people who know us, you know, we're former decathletes and coaches and, you know, our lives revolve around usually like being nice to people and helping kids and like leading lives that aren't about bullshit and grifting, you know? Right, right, that's cool. So- We ended up getting, we made a sizzle reel. It went to the network conference.

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I'm just like, um, the, the story is going, has a thread through the oldest iconography in human history. And it continues like Malta, all these places. Yeah. You have six digits, uh, Yeah, once again, I don't know, Marawanga? Is it rejecting that?

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See, that's the tradition. Pizarro and other Spanish explorers, right? They show up at Sacsayhuaman in Peru. They show up at Lake Titicaca and all the ruins there. And the Spanish are like, oh, these are built by demons. They don't know what to make of it.

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They ask the anchor, they ask Pizarro, and they specifically said they were built by the Juarez, the giants, before an age of darkness and cataclysm, essentially. So that's what we're told. Because if I say,

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uh you know i don't know if you could build that you know like with the tools of the time that's not a diss against the imire or the inca people uh then i'm right out of the gate like i'm some racist you know but then again you know go to malta it's the same story like freaking sicilian farmers but the point is that the indigenous people have all these myths and legends about giants and stonehenge is the same way and oh the neolithic britons they're going to be pissed at me if i said giants built stonehenge you know it's just like

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I don't want to go round and round with that, but the point is these traditions are the things that's interesting, not my theorizing, right? So what the fuck does it mean? I don't know. Is it pure fantasy? These people who we attribute having the wherewithal to do these amazing things are telling us these kind of wild stories. So you can't have it both ways.

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Or at least be open to the idea that there's more going on.

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That's Pueblo Benito. That's a Kiva in Colorado, and that's where the footprints going up the wall are. Yeah, the six-digit hands.

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That's in Colorado. Wow. Wow. So go to Palenque and there's hands and feet all over the iconography there. Go to Peru, go to, you know, so many places are, and it's not just because we know it's a region at a condition. It's just not associated with like some- Gigantism. Gigantism. It's literally associated with the supernatural, the divine, the malevolent and giants.

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and you know to any scout you know when i hey i've never analyzed a 10-foot skeleton i you know i know um why skeptics are skeptical about the idea of giants i just like how can all these traditions exist how can there be giant hands and feet associated not just they don't stand alone they're associated with giants and the legends are right

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excuse me, the Cherokee, Judicola in North Carolina, Matsing in Botswana, on and on and on. The Australian Aborigines, they have the same stories of malevolent, extra-digited giants like the Native American tribes do in the Southwest. It's like, I'm not like cherry picking and trying to make an argument. I'm just saying, how can it be that there is no story there? I don't know.

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I don't have a time machine, but it's pretty interesting.

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I actually, my book is like heavily dependent on

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academic sources like 90 of it is academic uh excavation reports academic analysis dr richard barnett wrote a paper in 1986 about polydactylism he says the academic world has given this um subject zero attention and he was right he's the first one to piece together like holy there's this polydactylism everywhere in the ancient world right so there were a lot of academics who took on like patricia crown

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A bunch of networks said, yeah, we want this show. History said, we'll run it straight to a series without a pilot. And we're like, we'll do it. Yeah, which was cool. So we did our first season of Search for the Lost Giants. And I'll just give some background.

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wrote in 2016 about uh how in colorado at chaco canyon the natives revered polydactylism extra digits so there's like an um an article about that other uh worrible and other academics wrote about palenque and mesoamerican reverence for polydactylism they call it divine polydactyly so you have different academics in isolated areas talking about it.

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And I understand the skepticism, but I would like to know just like we had professor, uh, Todd Disatel, evolutionary biologist on a, um, for a show. And I love Todd. He's great. And I asked him like, how can you, what's the anthropological explanation for skull elongation all around the world between cultures that had no contact? It's the most bizarre and specific thing to do.

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Are they emulating some, you know, what's going on? And, um, You know, he didn't have, he's just like, I don't know how to explain it essentially. And I agree. It's just like these levels of specificity by cultures that had no, like when you have a kid, would you elongate a little baby Timmy's skull? It is like so bizarre and so crazy. It goes back at least 10,000 years to China. Right.

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But you have it like Choctaw, a bunch of Native American tribes did it. It's fucking crazy. You know what I mean? So that's the kind of stuff where, if it is dismissed as like garbage or lunacy by the academics or the pseudo skeptics, people push back and they feel like these ideas aren't getting a fair shake.

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And then they start to believe in conspiracies and then announce some TikTok rabbit hole where the professionals should say, there's a real mystery there. I'm not going to jump to conclusions. This is what I need to see to prove the case. But that is very interesting. Common sense would tell you,

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The level of specificity and the ubiquitous nature of these things is telling you that it's worthy of further investigation. So I'm trying to bridge that gap. It's just like, take your foot off the brake a little. I mean, put your foot on the brake a little.

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Chill out and address this as it's an interesting puzzle to solve, not a belief system of your ideological enemy, which is completely different.

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That's great, man. Just being open to these seemingly bizarre ideas is really cool. I think that's why your platform is so popular. And it's just like people dig it. And I hope... And I appreciate like... Especially being dudes, to give permission to men to talk about difficulties, talk about depression, talk about empathy, shit like that.

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It's really important to embody contradiction, be the best of what a man is. It's not like a tough guy getting drunk at a bar and beating the shit out of someone. It's about empathy and concern. And I really, that's the best part of it that you're, we're in the same zone there. And I really, I dig that. I appreciate it.

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And I haven't had auras or seizures in like 15 years. Auras? Auras are kind of like pre... it's like almost a precognition of a seizure. You know when it's coming. So it's this weird twilight zone. And with the seizures, especially the petty mauls, I would get waves of them in the sleeping waking state and they would cause massive depression for weeks on end. I mean, I couldn't freaking move.

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I'm in the witness protection program of fucking ancient mysteries. I'm such a loser. I got like the tech skills of an Amish preacher. I know, I gotta pick up my game. I'm on like Facebook. It's a picture of me and my brother at Roanoke when we're filming the Lost Colony of Roanoke.

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So I'm like doing this and my brother got hammers in his hand and I got a couple of dead accounts because I got freaking locked out of them. But I'll say at huge site, megalithamania.uk, There's a Jim Vieira section of videos. I think that's the best place. Okay. And Hugh's always like, if I'm doing tours with Hugh or we're going to do a show or something, he'll post there too.

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So I talk about all this shit, Edgar Cayce, fish gods, metaphysical secrets of the ancients. There's all videos there if people dig any of this stuff. Or you can reach out to Facebook and say hi or anything like that. Okay. But you know, one day I'll like get a tech assistant or whatever. But no, it's fine because I just like putting content out there.

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I don't want to push away prosperity, but I don't really want to try to overly monetize any of this. I just think it's cool and it's interesting. And I like that I can interface with both sides of the aisle, if you will. Because I got some tight friends who are like skeptics and they're always shitting on me and shitting on Atlantis and busting my balls, but I love them, you know what I mean?

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And it's not like, it's not confrontational, so... Thanks for everything, man.

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There's this idea like the Smithsonian, they got, you know, giant skeletons in the basement and all that. And there's this massive archeological coverup.

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And i'm a fraud, you know, I work with archaeologists and geologists and scientists have them on a show I'm friends with many academics and the idea that there's some global conspiracy to cover up evidence is even if it was Desired it'd be impossible if you know what i'm saying, right? so We have this this idea that there's a massive conspiracy to cover this, you know, giant giants.

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Yes and I would say the only point i'm making is littered within the smithsonian's own ethnology reports their scientists have described the unearthing of massive bones over and over again and so it's embedded in their records in an episode two of our show well i'll backtrack and the smithsonian claims that the largest skeleton that's ever been in their possession is a six foot three

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My name's Jim Vieira. Some people will call me unhinged. Some people will say I'm a giantologist. I'm an expert in something that doesn't exist. The skeleton's eight and a half foot tall. It gets shipped to the Smithsonian. We find the record of it. And how do you take that and transform it into six foot three inches? Baja, California, the rock art there is showing giant beings with extra digits.

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Yeah. Freak the fuck out. Yeah. Stop the ride. I want to get off. Yeah. Yeah.

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In fact, like right now, if you're like, Jim's a piece of shit, he's rubbing me the wrong way, you threw that at me or whatever, it'd be like, we must have had some karmic dust up in a previous lifetime. That's what a master would say. You forgive it so in six months we don't have to replay this. And that being said, I feel this

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Yeah, no, no, you nailed it. The Ashtavakra Gita, hold opinions about nothing. Nobody realizes that every master throughout history said the same thing. Disengage from the mind. Let the mind run its chatter. Literally dissociate from it. It is not... It basically doesn't represent you. In reality, it's Maharishi. You are silence. There are things our movie characters have to do, right?

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Although the body knows when to eat, knows when to sleep. If you turned off the mind, you'd go through life fine. But we... We get hooked into the idea or we get fed this narrative that, you know, the separate self is telling us you need my counsel, you know, like, oh, man, what's my bank account? What time is it? You know, all this bullshit where you surrender everything.

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to a source, to your higher self that knows the way is the way to go. And you just know, you're absolutely right, that beliefs are fraudulent. There are interesting things to do, but the over-identification is the poison. And just like, you know, one of the worst aspects about belief is it becomes cult-like.

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So if you don't believe, we can't hang if you don't like, I'm going to sit and rant about this political figure I don't like through our fucking dinner. And it's just like, and if you're not my cult, you're my enemy. It's just almost got to that point. Well, I realize a lot of people are moving to the middle now, but yeah, you just want people in your life. Like I have my relationship.

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I have like these hardcore non-dualistic friends that we do ceremonies. We hike, we support each other to reprogramming our minds. We have similar interests. My brother and I, I go over, you know, before work, we run a stonemasons business down in Western Mass. We'll sit down. Katie is there and we'll do the flow for like 20 minutes every morning.

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And that's what our spiritual teacher is just like the Sahaja, the silence is our state. And then you go on your day from there and you try to, and then we both become non-reactive. We both just let things be much, much to a much greater degree, which is, which has led to more peace and sanity in our lives. And, you know, anybody listening, that's what I would say. Seek peace.

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And I got to say, my boy Joe Dispenza dishes it out like nobody else because it's neuroscience. It's like reprogramming the temporary physical vehicle of manifestation, which is part of the matrix. You know, you could say we're in the set of the matrix with these chairs. And it's like, wait, this is real, right? This is real.

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The illusion is telling you this is real and it's real in the sense that it's not permanent. It's not eternal. So Maharishi said it's not real in that way. But yes, we are experiencing this real right now. So there's two things going on.

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I can see, and when I meet people, it's like, oh, we had other lifetimes together. And it's like, well, that's some new age bullshit or whatever, but I can feel it. And your understanding of metaphysics is pretty rare. So it's like, these are all the conversations I had in my life. You know, I'm not always talking about the Patriots going to get back to the Super Bowl.

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But that surrender or that interface with the real state, the reprogramming of the false beliefs, the undoing of the false that that hides the perfection of what you are is the prime directive.

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Everything else is mental spinning in addiction to fucked up chemicals like cortisol and everything else, you know and all the external searches Jim Carrey who I love I hope everybody finds all the wealth and happiness and success in life So they realize that it is like all the fame so they realize it's not the answer.

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It's not even real. And if you see Jim Carrey, I was talking to Danny, Danny Jones about this. Everybody's like, oh, he's an MK culture, MK ultra victim in this shit. It's like, no, he's disidentifying from his he talks about his movie character, which he actually was in real life as a separate entity. And he is moving towards enlightenment. You can see it.

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And that's one thing my teacher talks about. And, you know, I talk about my movie character in third person, not like I'm an NBA player and Jim Vieira dropped 40 today on the Celtics. It's no, it's like Jim Vieira is a false and temporary movie character. And I'm not doing out of a sense of ego. I'm kind of laughing at my over-identification. And that's, once again, that's what psychedelics do.

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They assist you to disidentify, and you can see the ego's put to sleep, and you see with this clarity. But then you wake up from the retreat in Ecuador with the same programming that you haven't changed, and you fall back into the same patterns, and then you chase the external psychedelic to bring you back to that state, which I get.

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But you've got to do like you have been doing, the day-to-day hard work of disidentification.

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Yeah, that makes total sense. Yeah.

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It's not hard work, man. It's so fucking better than the normal. Right.

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Yeah. Like, no, you're so right, man.

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Yeah. It's hard in the sense you get a allergic reaction to your ego from your ego.

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The Ashtavakra Gita is considered the greatest spiritual document in human history. It's purely non-dualistic. It is an ancient Sanskrit text believed to be written by Ashtavakra, but it isn't. He's another character in like the Puranas and the Vedas. it's a literary device where King, um, Johnica speaks with Ashtavakra and asks him, what is enlightenment? How do I get there?

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It's like, you know, it's like, this is the kind of stuff I keep meeting beings who were here. And it's not like, you know, I'm going to take my shirt off and do a poster pic with the spiritual quote and make it about me. It's more like, you know what I mean? It's like I can feel it, the synchronicity.

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And Johnica becomes enlightened right at the beginning of it. So it's this dialogue, this experiential dialogue of exactly what pure non-duality in truth is. Right. But it's hardcore. It's like hold no beliefs. You know, it's basically like Jesus in the Apocrypha on a John, there was the field of one without a separate, the experiencer is, is not experiencing anymore.

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So anyways, I've read this, I'm reading this, I'm listening to it months on end. And then one night I have a breakthrough and I go to the realm of light of total Rick and Morty disidentification. And it was, it was comical. It was like, I was sitting my buddies with my buddies and we'll laugh in an inside joke. You know, that's what reality is like. It's, it's comically beautiful. And I,

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I just like just are inspired by this fucking state that the mystics talk about. You know, I'm like wrong side of the tracks, blue call lunatic. And I didn't think it was on my bingo card. You know what I mean? So I come back and my ego has the worst allergic reaction for days. It was uncontrollable feedback or blowback.

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which is, it's a tell that, you know, I tapped through the truth, but it was like, wow, I am controlled by a tyrant. It's fucking crazy. And then it happened again a couple months later and I broke through again and it was a lesser response. And, and that is what you, that is the bad part of it that you're going to get put like the Joe to spend his stuff.

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You're going to get like a desperate drug addict pleading with you to go back to the old way of, of hurtful thinking and all that fucking sick shit. So I just throw that out as a caveat because I don't even recommend psychedelics to people unless they've done years of work before that. They can be very helpful, but you don't even need them really.

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But they're helpful neurologically with medical conditions. I'm not against it by any means, but that is the hard part, is the reaction from the tyrant. Watch out, man.

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My thoughts are it rings true. that there was a previous civilization there.

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Right. That, that, that to me is just like the old Jonas Salk, like my intuition is telling me there's a story there, right? The traditions, the esoteric mysteries, there's a lot of talk that there was a previous civilization. Then you get into like, is the asteroid belt of a Tiamat or a former planet that the Babylonians spoke of? Um, We see a lot of new structures.

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And it's like these subjects are really important to people because most people who are interested in ancient mysteries, they're interested in this, like spirituality. Who the hell am I? Where did the Matrix come from? What did the ancients believe? What techniques can I use? to bring myself peace, to forgive, to reduce my over-agitated neurological state.

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I know Rogan just posted that, like that square structure on Mars. Did you see that? It's like, it was taken by NASA like 10 years ago, but it's made the rounds again right there.

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My boy, George Haas, a nice guy, a friend of mine. He's like Mars mysteries, man. And he, I heard one of his presentations. I'll say this. There's a book called The Disappearance of the Universe written by Gary Renard. He's a friend of mine too. It's pure non-dualism. It's course and miracles based, right? So it's like a Christian version of non-duality, like a Gnostic version.

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And his teachers make predictions about the past. They actually said that Atlantis existed and it was near the Canary Islands going into the Atlantic. They said that there was a previous civilization on Mars and we would find anthropological evidence soon of it, which is, you know, very kind of interesting. The Monroe Institute is part of Project Stargate. They did a remote view.

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on Mars, and they found in these pyramid-like structures this race of elder 10-foot-tall giants that was dying out that was living there, which is right up my alley. If we can get them all on the same page.

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Oh, good question. I think it was back in time. Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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I don't know what took place. I think it's Robert Monroe, Monroe Institute. They do like, it was Project Stargate and they did a lot of weird shit. Not weird shit, but just, you know, psychic. stuff.

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Spooky action at a distance, as Einstein would say. And yes, you have even Brian Greene, a theoretical physicist, he did like this four-part special for PBS. I think it was called like Fabric Edge of the Cosmos, something like that. It was third episode. He's like, we've identified that the universe of time and space is being projected from an external field. We just can't locate it. Why is that?

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Because the field does not exist. It's an abstract field.

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awareness that's what the masters say reality is not concrete and specific like the false and temporary matrix it is an abstract field of bliss without another so it's not like oh fuck what's coming around the corner like when we're living like there's always something around the corner in this freaking world right it is a total liberation from even the idea of a self or a mind it is just just bliss without another and the quantum physicists

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theoretical physicists are telling us through experiment after experiment that what the mystic saying is true so if you're a skeptic start from that point right i think it was um fred hoyle might have said if you do if you're not shocked by quantum physics you don't understand it right you're starting from this point of like

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the realm of Morpheus, and then go from there when you get all high and mighty about all your theories about the past and life on other planets and stuff like that. I would say, learn what is really, but it's like, I don't want to learn this because this is the purview of my ideological enemy, unfortunately. This is woo-woo mysticism. And I'm, you know, I trust the science.

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And, you know, I'm going to get fucking vaccination in my eyeballs and monkey pox. And, you know, it's just like I'm going to wear a mask while I mow my lawn in the middle of the woods, you know. And I'm not shitting on the left. It's just like the cult is telling you, like, the right, they go into a bubonic plague tent without a mask just to make a point.

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It's just the fucking way it is. My point is that like set aside the dogma and look at the science. That's what science is. It's a blend of metaphysics and scientific method, you know, Plato, Pythagoras, you know, that is the way we should approach this as like spiritual scientists that are curious, not like who gives a shit, wound up in, you know, that's why I don't like degrees anymore.

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It's like, I would like a different way for education to take place. Because you need expertise, but you become identified with the belief system, right? Like I'm whatever, I'm a stonemason. I like to think that I have some game and that I've done my homework. I'm not identified with anything. But if you go to college, you get your PhD, you are immediately identified.

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Not only are you indoctrinated in a way of thinking that I would say is probably highly flawed, you are also identified with it.

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Yeah, and you have an ideological enemy that's this flaky, non-reason-based cult of their own. I will say, to be fair, the alternative side, there's no peer review. It's open for a grift. There's lots of bullshit artists. There's lots of well-meaning people who they don't have to do the rigor of academics. They give the audience what they are, what they want to hear.

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So you could like I could be like, oh, I'm the giant guy. This is a pretty good gig. I don't I don't have to do stonework anymore if I do this or that. That's not my style. But I could see that that like I don't want to debunk myself. I don't want to say when I was wrong, you know, like your boy, Dan Richards, it's like, he's pretty good at coming out. Like I was wrong here.

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He doesn't shit on himself, but he's like, you know, uh, I'll say that I I'm backpedaling from this point. So that is what you have. Unfortunately is the, the boy, the identity. And I am this and the, uh, you, you just get so wedded to it. Uh, and, and it blocks out things like understanding quantum mechanics, you know?

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I completely agree. I think, I think you nailed it. It's like, uh, look at your own movie character, right? Yeah. Yo, I've been wrong here. I've been wrong here. I've done embarrassing and manipulative things to get what I thought I didn't have, you know,

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Thank God, like, I'm an older dude, like, pushing 60, but if all the shit from my childhood was online like kids today, it'd be like, I'd die of embarrassment, you know what I mean? Like, all the over-the-top, overstimulated. It's like when Ben Affleck took out that...

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ad for J-Lo years ago when he was first going out with her in the New York Times or something like just overstimulated, misperceiving biology, full of that kind of stuff. And I get it. I've been there. But it's just like once you cut into your false self, then you can lighten up and orient more like you're talking about. I think it's that. It's just like you just become identified with it.

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And that's the curse. Yeah. I just find myself, like not a lot of people shit on themselves, you know, in a funny way and like look at their missteps. I think that's important.

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that Elon Musk may be the reincarnation of Nikola Tesla, and that he is gonna guide an effort to find extraterrestrial evidence of a past civilization on Mars or even humanoid. And that sounds like, you know, what do you want acid? Like that's, that's out there. I'm just saying, I feel like, cause I look at patterns, you know, like I said, I'm like, I got a touch of Asperger's or something.

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I see all these patterns and I see karmic patterns. Yeah. This is the Sedona region. And I'm like, Musk is an interesting guy and, And all my lefty friends are just like, they think he's the antichrist now because he kind of shifted to the, or whatever, to moderate or whatever. And I'm like, no, no, forget all that noise. He's wrapped up in his freaking company's called Tesla, right?

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He's wrapped up in this kind of expansive thing. mystical search for technology and ancient mystery and stuff like that and I Just gotta say I think we're gonna look back and say that lunatic was right me that there was previous evidence of life on Mars I just rings true and I could be wrong I think even Hancock went over that in one of his books or something. I don't know how you feel about it.

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It's just something rings true.

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Exactly. And that's the thing. That's the good part. It intrigues the hell out of me, but I can't state unequivocally it's a reality.

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Just like Egypt, that's another place that deserves extreme exploration. I think we're going to get it. I think Musk will stop moving in that direction. I think the will of the collective...

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consciousness will is breaking out yeah it's like this shit's gonna happen it's just like i'm not paying for another fucking war you know what i mean i'm not i'm gonna you know z and uh china putin you know i'm not gonna make eternal enemies that that's an old system of of um You're just fomenting conflict for financial gain. I think people are interested. They're interested in metaphysics.

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They're interested in truth. They want transparency above all else from the government. You could tell me we're fucked with $35 million in debt, trillion in debt. The interest payments of the debt just crossed the Rubicon of the fall of the Roman Empire where the interest is more than the national expenditure on the military. Just be honest. It could be a lot of belt tightening, austerity.

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That's what people want. You know, they don't want smoke blowing up their ass. They don't want the Fed with their 200 PhD economists telling them that supply chain bottlenecks cause inflation when they printed seven trillion dollars, 35 percent of all the money printed in the history of the United States in a couple of years span.

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So all the couple hundred grand in your fucking IRA just got eaten down by 35%. And you get talked down to, and you have extremely intelligent people. Like I understand macroeconomic theory and technical analysis very well. That's kind of my sweet spot, my brother as well. And you have 200 PhD economists. Not one of them is telling you the truth about like, you know what caused inflation? Right?

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Ask Milton Friedman. It's fucking money printing. You know what I mean? Now we're all eating that shit sandwich now, right? And it's not going back.

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Exactly. And so the moral of the story is it doesn't matter if somebody has a bunch of degrees. Are they selling? Oh, shit. I got to send my girl to private school. I got three car payments. You know, everybody knows to sell out, right? That's why I'll tip to like my boy Dan Richards again.

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I like to think myself in this objective zone, you can, and you as well, you're creating this platform without agenda.

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Rogan's doing that, Danny Jones, a lot of others. And those are rare voices in the wilderness. Like, I don't have an agenda. I can clearly state what's going on. I don't give a shit about the bank crawling up my ass because I live in a peasant shack and I don't have any debt. You know what I mean?

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The long-winded way of saying that it's that orientation can clearly see that even intelligent people in positions of power... are not apt to tell the truth.

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Absolutely. Although a case could be made, it is representative of the vibrational state of the collective too.

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So it's like, it's not about the political figure. It's more like where we are. This is displaying that we get some work to do. You know, I would just throw that out there.

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Because I don't want to get hung up on, like, oh, shit, only if this person got in office. It's more like, what can I do to unravel my own insanity? Right, right. And that helps the collective. No doubt.

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I think we hit all the weird ancient mystery shit. Yeah. I'm glad we got a chance to talk about the Lost Hall of Records, Tomb of Gilgamesh, gods, digits, giants, metaphysics. Yeah. uh, ancient structures, Mars. I think we hit them all. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Cool.

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I like to think I'm well-versed in the dynamics of thought and belief. And I've learned a lot from self-reflection, admitting when I'm wrong, seeing agenda. You know, there was a time where, am I trying to prove my case or find the truth? You know, because you get in these battles, right? There's a lot of trolls and there's a lot of a-holes on both sides of these debates, just like politics.

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Hopefully some Adderall to keep me going. Let's see. Oh, nice. Product placement. Yeah, I dig that. Oh, my own vase. I'm going to put the ashes of a fish guard in this.

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You've read that, though. Oh, of course. No, no, I'll reread it. Because totally he's enlightened, right? Yeah, no doubt. And you just flip the switch, and it's just like, oh, power of now, now, now. I can't freaking do this. What he's training you to do is to reprogram the false self and disidentify.

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So he flipped the switch, but in his last lifetime, he was probably like us, struggling, fighting through all this stuff, And he's like Ramana Maharshi all out. So you get that last lifetime when you flip the switch and you become enlightened or disidentified. And it's kind of funny or synchronistic that you gave a gift bag with his book.

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Yeah, it's like Gary Renard, Course in Miracles teacher. You're a mortal reality, the disappearance of the universe. His teachers who are ascended masters tell him that it's false and temporary and you break the cycle of reincarnation. Now, if you feel like... I want to come and I want to help my brothers and sisters awaken. You usually, you don't come back with your ego identity.

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Oh, bingo. You nailed it. It's... And that idea is considered naive. Like, oh, this guy, yeah, he can enjoy his peace, but the world's a freak show. I got to fight for this. And the masters like Maharshi, you know, this idea when good men do nothing, evil thrives. It's like, no, the mind is projecting evil. the psychotic world, the mind that is unhealed and misidentified.

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You come back as a Ramana Maharshi or a Jesus or a Buddha. Like Jesus is like, don't try to drag me into the fucking loony bin. I am trying to take you out of Plato's cave. But he had a Satan parables because people didn't know what the hell he was talking about. So the masters are coming back for this last lifetime.

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And I think like Eckhart Tolle, this is probably his last go around, you know, but he could come back. It's irrelevant because there is permanent bliss. And then there is this temporary freak show that we're existing in. And it could be just a prodigal sons and daughters mind experiment, which Jesus talks about. Right.

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The error is that to ascribe purpose and meaning to the matrix because you're already perfect. So there's nothing that's happening here that's adding or subtracting from my divinity, which is very heartening. Like, whoa, man. I don't want to do an inventory of my previous lifetimes because it wouldn't add up to good stuff, right? So that's a really heartening message.

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The shaman wisdom keeper I study with, he said there's a beauty in forgetting. And we do these like 17-hour fucking San Pedro ayahuasca ceremonies and you like break through to this blissful state. And he would say, it's a game of hide and seek. And now you realize what you really are and you are inspired. It's so fucking cool that you are something so permanent, eternal, and are inspiring.

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Maybe that's true. It doesn't matter. You are already perfect. Don't react, forgive, you know, the way you operate and orient in this life is pretty straightforward and obvious. Just go with the Buddhist to forgive, to judge another is like drinking poison and waiting for somebody else to die. Your failure to forgive justifies your judgment, the course of miracles.

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And forgiveness isn't like, oh, I'm good. You're still going to burn in hell. I'm going to forgive you. Forgiveness is like a release of the false idea that you're even over there. It's just like a just let things be. You know, it's the gospel of Thomas where Jesus says, be passerby, bless people, be with people on the same page, but don't get involved in other.

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But just just let the one take care of them. Because the spirit of the one looks back from the end of time and works with every fractured aspect of the one to awaken them in the most efficient manner. Right? So it's not my job to awaken you. My job is to forgive myself for dreaming the psychotic version of myself and forgive whatever you see, which is a completely different orientation.

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You're perfect now. Dreaming a dream of imperfection, undo the imperfection. And then you don't even give a shit. I don't care if I'm in the matrix, if I'm in this blissful state. Maybe I'm of use, awakening my larger self. But when you're caught in the mud and you're caught in the judgment and the over-identification of a false self, it kind of blows. You know what I mean? Hanging here. Yeah.

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I'm in the witness protection program of ancient mystery research. Another thing I got to change. It's just my old like way of doing business. I'm on Facebook actually. Are we friends on Facebook? I don't know.

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It's the picture at Roanoke when we filmed that for history. Okay. My brother got a hammer and I'm sitting down. So the two of us is my profile. And then I get some dead Jim Vieira because I'm like got the tech skills. I'm an Amish preacher and I couldn't like restart the accounts. So you can, you can get through there to, to meet me. I'm setting up a website right now.

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Maharishi even said the greatest social activist in human history does absolutely nothing compared to the master or the person who has liberated themselves from false beliefs because there is only one mind that is getting temporarily... It's already healed, but in the matrix it isn't, right? So it's kind of a catch-22.

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I'm working with like a tech guy. I got to get out of the stone age. And that's, that's, I, yeah, that's me. And that's my dog friend. That's, that's me looking tough. Yep. Um, So people can get to me there. I do conferences with all around the world. My boy, Hugh Newman, who you had on, we're doing a tour to England in, I think, July.

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Glastonbury, Stonehenge, that's a cool tour if you're down with it. Megalithamania.uk is Hugh's channel, and there's a Jim Vieira section where I give lectures on all the weird shit I talked about, giants, fish gods, metaphysics. Um, that's probably the best place to, you know, I announce everything I do.

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I'm going to do a series of, of, uh, presentations about the subjects we talked about, like newer versions of them with newer evidence and X, you know, excavation reports and stuff like that. So there'll be floating out in the interweb pretty soon as well. So, yeah, yeah. I think that's, uh, that's, that's a good place to start. And I, I'll, once again, I'll say, um,

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Personally, reprogramming, which is a work in progress, reprogramming through guided meditation, through Joe Dispenza. It's, it's neuroscience. It's like, it's really tough to go through life without that occurring for us. The default program is very insidious. So you might have good days and bad days or whatever, but really I would direct people in that direction.

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And I'm not like affiliated with any of that. I'm not making any money anywhere.

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All I can think of is like you're on this, we're on the same page. It's like, Jerry and George in the coffee shop and like together, we're one man. I'm not a real person, Jerry. But yeah, to talk your game up. Absolutely. I'm thrilled that you have an understanding of these challenging topics. And yeah. It's a pleasure to be on.

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I'd love to come again, and I wish you luck in Egypt and any other endeavors that are happening. I'm on the same page, too.

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And as the Buddhists would say, to judge another is like drinking poison and waiting for someone else to die because there is only one holographic mind. And all these ideas and judgments we have about others are just, you know, they're like self-hatred projected outwards. And that you got to live with that.

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Thanks for having me on, brother. And anybody tuning in, thanks for being part of this conversation. I appreciate it. Cool. Yeah. Cool.

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It's just like, oh, this, you know, it's like when you're in the joint, you know, like I'm in for five years doing armed robbery. But when the child molester shows up, I'm going to shank him. Right. It's it's it sounds weird, but it's just like I'm going to find another character that's worse than me. That's more despicable than me. Instead of like you're none of that.

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And we've all done weird, embarrassing, crazy things in the Matrix, and you forgive it because it's not your real self. Imagine if it was all these lifetimes we've all had. Oh, the barbarians are coming. You fight. You know what I mean? If that was your true self, God help us. But they're just movie character clips or whatever that actually don't exist in the field of the one.

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Whatever this freak show is, it's a prodigal son's thought experiment. You know, it's like, oh, God wanted to know what it was like to like get a compound fracture and see a rainbow. I don't really buy that. You know what I mean? It's just like you get this realm of perfection and you're like, oh, let's go do this shit.

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I don't know because I don't want to judge it and I don't want to get bogged down in the interpretation of it. I just know that and have experienced the realm of perfection that the masters talk about. So I'll leave it at that.

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That's great. I appreciate that. That's like starting this podcast where we both take a hit of mescal and now we'll start talking about giants. Right, right. Exactly.

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They showed me... There's things like the Course in Miracles or Advaita Vendanta. It's really the entire goal. They're non-dualistic teachings that are geared towards the experience of who you are, not just an intellectual understanding. And I'm somebody that's got an active mind, obviously, that can spin and spin in the intellectual realm rather than

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gearing ourselves to an experience okay this is what you really are so like let me show you like my teacher excuse me does this thing called the flow it's eye gazing right it's like this energetic state get out of the head you could feel that that energy viscerally right this is like and this guy's like fucking crank it out to 11 like a Ramana Maharshi.

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And it's like, this is the state that you are. So that's a way to experience it. Or even doing Qigong or yoga, sometimes you get that divine energy flowing. Or plant medicine ceremonies break you through to the divine realm, right? So the experience of who I am has allowed me to not take myself so seriously, admit when I'm wrong,

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And it's just like, I'm at war with this group of a-holes, right? rather than no, no, I'm trying to find the truth, the truth, you know? So I'm kind of like, I don't spend a lot of time with social media. It's like the lowest level of hell. You know, I love formats like this, but like I'm not scrolling on fucking Twitter or anything like that. I just want to hang myself.

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forgive, release, not be caught in judgments or self-righteous orientations or pretending I'm the good guy. It's just like allowed me to disidentify and be non-reactive. And I live like a weird monk. I live in a tiny cabin. I don't really have any possessions. And that's the way I've been able to deal with the world and try to modulate my nervous system.

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But now I'm like, you know, that's an experiment and it's helped me a lot. Like I've shed a lot of, uh, external searching and stuff like that. But I really feel now like, you know, I want to walk more in the world and not be a spaz, you know?

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Yes. In fact, it's funny you said that The Course in Miracles has a passage of of of transferring paper strips and metal disks for things of perceived worth. It's like an agreed upon illusion here. Like who is it that owns the vases? Who is it that owns a company?

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Does Matt, you know, like, and we have this mythology, like we die and there's like, oh, this is space version of Matt and Jim that float around the astral realm or something. Like I get to keep my movie character. What do you, you know, do you look like Paul Newman, you know, when he was 25? I mean, it looks like shit at the end of his life. You know what I mean? It's just, it's demented.

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Sorry, man. It's just like, whoa. That's why you do it now, right? You're going to be pissed when you're freaking dead and you're on the other side and you haven't broken the cycle of reincarnation. You're like, I didn't spend any time on doing this false self.

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I was dicking around looking for this, you know, pretending like, oh, you know, I'm a bad person instead of like finding the divine self and living from that state. Right. Right. Right. And if you're an atheist, that's fine. You know, it's just like, I was an atheist, you know, I'm a recovering Catholic.

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I ended up being an atheist for a long time, but then I started to have these experiences through trauma sometimes that are like, whoa, this is a scene behind the scene, right? But I experienced it. I didn't just intellectually know it. That is the key.

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So whatever you can do in your life to get to that state, yoga, meditation, plant medicine ceremonies, prayer, whatever it is, even forgiveness and kindness, like you hold the door for someone, you smile at them, you're like, you can feel that energetic exchange that is more divine than criticism or that. I mean, you just don't feel good shitting on people.

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So I know I look and sound like a guy you place a bet with, but I've done my homework. You know what I mean?

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You get like this lame, it's like doing coke or something. You get this diminishing return, this lame hit that you pretend you feel better initially, but it's like this bad drug. It's like cortisol and bullshit. Instead of like forgiving, like, yeah, that guy's an asshole. Well, I've never been an asshole. You know, you really frame it in a different way.

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You know, I don't want to get long with it, but no, it's cool.

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Thank you. Some people will call me unhinged. Some people will say I'm a giantologist. I'm an expert in something that doesn't exist. I feel like Once again, I think I embody a contradiction when I'm a stonemason, kind of a blue-collar guy, but I am... oriented towards reading. I've read every ancient text imaginable. I work with professionals.

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I want to highlight the best of the academic world and the best of the alternative world. And there are radical elements and fringes in both, just like a politics that kind of just throw poison around all day. But, you know, the books I write, I'm heavily reliant on academic expertise, iconography, analysis. Excavation reports. It's like I love working with professionals. We get to talk shot.

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They know the whole background of the history of so many things that most lay people don't. So I am not anti science. I am not. I like to think that people just want an objective look at some bizarre subjects, and I want it myself.

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So I get into ideas of Atlantis and Edgar Cayce, the Lost Hall of Records, the strange androgynous amphibious gods who teach the humans the arts of civilization, and the tradition state that they engineer us. ideas of giants, they real, what the hell is going on, you know?

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I don't know if you're- Kandahar giant.

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70, okay. I swear to God. And it sounds like this guy's out of his mind.

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I can't, we'll talk about polydactylism. Yeah. And, and I, that's another, there is, I am thoroughly convinced there's a story here out of the gate, right? How does like every Native American tribe have traditions of giants, literal giants, like cannibalistic giants? Benevolent teachers showing up like the explorers.

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They met with these giant tribal wise ones, the tall ones, seven, eight, nine foot tall from Magellan in Patagonia to John Smith in Virginia. It's huge and not like skinny NBA plays, but like these they call them. Even Jefferson met with the Osage Indians from six foot six to seven foot tall, like noble, you know, just these really this this elegant race, you know.

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And that doesn't mean every Native American was like that. It seemed like their royal class was giant-sized and that their ancestors fought with malevolent giants. And I get it. I get the skepticism. I have not seen a 12-foot skeleton with six fingers and toes. I have not unearthed the tomb of Gilgamesh. I understand skepticism, but... I've sat with many wisdom keepers.

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I've studied with an enlightened spiritual teacher for like 25 years, like legit. Not like the guru who tries to hit on everybody's wife at the ashram, but like a real enlightened guy who liberated themselves. What the masters say throughout history, all of them say the same thing, is that we have fallen into matter and we over-identify with that current temporary movie character.

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I've read the traditions of so many native tribes and they all like, all they want to talk about is giants. They like, it's a huge part of it. And then you go, nice.

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So it's not pituitary gigantism, obviously. No, no.

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Because there's lots of reports of like seven foot and taller skeletons on Earth, even though they're really robust with massive jaws. It's like, is this just kind of an anthropological mystery? I got that right. Or is this like a supernatural mystery? Because you get into the traditions, right? Veracocha creates giants and he destroys them in a flood, the androgynous god Veracocha.

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In the Bible, the gods or God creates giants and destroys them in a flood. The Finnish traditions, you have so many traditions of actual literal giant beings. You get into the Nephilim, they are portrayed as malevolent sometimes. So do Christians believe in giants then? Definitely. There's 23 passages in the Bible that talk about giants. And it's like Moses sends out his scouts.

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So do they know that they believe in giants? Yeah, yeah, they're down with giants, definitely. Okay, okay, okay.

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Well, yeah. You know, that's like Christians are like... Um, it's true because it's in the Bible. I'm not going to like take a run in when I'm like, it's an interesting idea or it's a fact or it's an, it's a piece of evidence. But you know, the Bible got some pretty screwed up stuff too. The new Testament is more like platonic thought. The Old Testament is like a badass trip.

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It's like vengeance and insanity. It's just like, I'm not hanging with that God. You know what I'm saying? So slavery and revenge and murder. Exactly. And people are drawn to Jesus as a wisdom teacher, as a figure who taught peace and taught the nature of the matrix in reality. Just like Lao Tzu, just like Buddha, just like Muhammad. But you can't control people with that shit.

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Like, forgive everyone. So you have the Roman church taking over the Gnostic. Like, Valentinus, he was like us. He was like a non-dualistic freak from Alexandria. He was almost the first pope. But they went in the other direction. The Roman Empire took over. And they're like, we got to create all this weird shit to lock people down and all this fear and everything like that.

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And, you know, Islam did the same thing, Judaism. But Sufism, Gnosticism and Christianity, the Kabbalah and Judaism, the stuff that doesn't get any run, that's not popular, is the real teachings, is the esoteric teachings. So the Bible is littered with accounts of giants. And it's just like isolated Pacific islands. It's just amazing. Like, how can it not be a reality?

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So imagine the field of the one pours the energy into the matrix and you're Matt, right? And then you're like, whoa, you know, I am this being. This is all I am. You almost become deluded instead of like, oh, this is a vehicle of expression, right? I'm a wave, not the ocean, you become over-identified. And there's almost like a tyrannical software program that runs that is called the ego.

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But then the skeptic would say, you know, just show me a 12-foot skeleton. I'm like, yeah, I get that. It's so frustrating but fascinating.

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Denisovans were a human cousin that they were found in the Denisova Cave, I think, in 2010 in the Altai region of Siberia. They mated with humans and Neanderthals. It was like an ancient orgy.

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But the only bones they found was a mole that was so large they thought it was a cave bear and they took it to Max Tooth and they took it to Max Planck Institute, got it sequenced, DNA sequenced, and they found out that it was a human cousin that mated with us. And they just found a skull in China.

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It's crazy. In 1938, a Chinese farmer unearthed a massive skull, right? And he hid it down a well. It sounds like a freaking Indiana Jones movie because the Japanese troops are coming. On his deathbed in 2018, he tells his grandson, go down the well and get that freaking skull I stashed there. And he brought it to the Beijing University.

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And the researchers there, they call it Longu Man, Dragon Man, because it was found on the Longu River. I hope I'm getting that right. They think it might be a new species, but a lot of us think it's Denisovans. And a lot of anthropologists, I think like Chris Stringer, think it's a Denisovan. And it's a massive skull, the largest Homo skull ever found. So it's enormous.

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And you have enormous teeth and you get these giant jaw bones found in the Taiwan Channel. The thing I'm waiting for is the long bones. If you have, like, a 28-inch femur or a 30-inch femur, it's, like, game over. It could be, like, these are hugely robust, like, Neanderthal figures. You want to leave that out there, too. Yeah, here you go. This is the skull that was found in the well? Yes.

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That's a good point. Yeah, they must have done DNA sequence. I think, yeah, the Chinese, there's all these ideas. Humans evolved from Asia now. Right. So which is cool. It's just like don't get married to any theory like out of Africa. Never really rang true to me. It could be part of part of the problem, part of the mystery or part of the answer. Yeah. But anyways, I am. That's cool.

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Let me give my Smithsonian speech for a second, if you don't mind. Sure. Because I started this whole thing diving. I was studying stonework in New England and the idea that Native Americans built was stone and left this altered landscape all around New England where I live in Massachusetts. And I agree with that idea. And I think I could prove it in a lot of ways.

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Varicocha creates giants, and he destroys them in a flood. In fact, at Carajan Tepe, they unearth the double-headed androgynous statue and a being with 16 figures. And under the power of the Sphinx, there is a record of this lost world. All these traditions are stating that these bizarre androgynous amphibious engineers actually made humans.

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But by virtue of that, I'm like, let me read the old town and county histories to see if there's any accounts of preexisting stonework that was here when the settlers showed up. But I started to find these bizarre giant skeleton accounts in the records by respected by like doctors and anatomists. Excuse me.

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And people who are well-versed in human anatomy, giving measurements, specific measurements of like 29, 32-inch femurs, 36-inch circumference skulls, right? This isn't a theory. This isn't a school of thought. This is like measuring a stationary object. So I'm like, whoa, do you know the Smithsonian's records are filled with these accounts?

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Town and county histories all around the country, they have these wild accounts with anatomic anomalies, like the jawbone fits over the skull of the largest man in town over and over again. That's indicative of a freaking huge human. So then I started to hear the pseudo-skeptics taking a run at me. He's an idiot, he's a stone missing, talking shit. And their ideas didn't make any sense. It's like,

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This is what you do when you are non objective. You take the worst aspects or the you take an aspect of the other argument and you conflate it with everything the person is saying and you demonize their argument. What I'm saying is, is I believe a majority of these accounts are real. And what the pseudo skeptic says is these are massive on bones. They're misidentified animal bones.

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It's the thing that is cut off from the divine that's essentially lines of code that runs the life or seemingly tries to run the life of the being. So it's a paradoxical idea. I understand that. And I do a lot of ceremonies. I've done a lot of plant medicine ceremonies. I've studied with spiritual masters. But I've also read like the Ashtavakra Gita over and over again for months. And then...

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You're an idiot for being so gullible. This is hoaxes. Or newspaper selling sensationalism. All of that is true to a small extent. Right. New York Times. There's all these articles. Although then I would I would say most of these accounts are buried obscurely in voluminous documents like town and county histories in an era of inefficient communication.

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Many of these finds not only found with giant implements, they are found with Native American artifacts within context and burial techniques known to be Native American. Right. So this isn't some bullshit. I found a mastodon bone and I'm running with it. Right.

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So I felt like I was trying to be categorized as a moron who doesn't understand, understand how science works, which which pissed me off, of course. So the moral of the story is like, what are these accounts really? The Smithsonian says that the largest skeleton they ever received is six foot three inches. A Native American Sioux with acromegaly, which is a disease condition.

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In fact, their records are littered with seven and eight foot tall skeleton accounts. T.M. Perrin, 1873 Smithsonian ethnology report. He finds a 36 inch circumference skull. And other skulls that large, which is absolutely outrageous, we write about in our book, it crumbled to dust, as a matter of fact.

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It's just, it's ridiculous. But the moral of the story is, that's the message we get from the Smithsonian. I'm not saying, oh, they got the vault with all the bones. Even in our show... I don't know, Ryan, if the giant of Staleville, if there's an image of that. We're looking into this account.

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The eight and a half foot skeleton wired together by University of Missouri archaeologists next to Les Eaton, who's six and a half foot tall on the floor of the doctor's office. Right. So. That skeleton was recommended or the Smithsonian, we also found that they asked to have it shipped there. Right. So we go through the whole story. We found where the site was.

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Oh, Billy Harmon said, you can take that to the bank. You know, like all the old timers are telling us about the story. The skeleton's eight and a half foot tall. It gets shipped to the Smithsonian. We find the record of it. And how do you take that and transform it into six foot three inches, you know?

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So the idea that, I'm not saying, you know, the Nephilim hitting on my girlfriend or the freaking Cyclops ate all the sheep in my neighborhood, but that's a mystery, you know? And that's the case I'll make. Like, you tell me this isn't worthy of further investigation? Their accounts are littered. Their ethnology reports are littered with these kinds of accounts. So... That's where I'm coming from.

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It was asked for and shipped to the Smithsonian. Okay. Excuse me. Also in 1933, George S. Fisher in Pennsylvania, he unearthed a 7'5 skeleton. He was a state archaeologist. And he worked with Donald Kadzow, who was a Cambridge-educated archaeologist. The unearthed 745 skeleton, there's an article about it. There's pictures of it.

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Kadzow, in an article like six months later, he's driving the 745 skeleton in a freaking van to Harrisburg, where it's going to go to the Smithsonian as well. And there's so many accounts like this. Of course, there's some, it's like, we don't know what happened, or maybe it's bullshit. But there are like...

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credited scientists claiming the most outrageous things and You know having the Smithsonian at the end of the rainbow, so I don't know the story I don't have a freaking time machine. I'm just saying there's a lot of evidence And then you mix that with the Native American traditions you meet you mix that with all these ancient documents

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have had this breakthrough that they talk about where I went to the realm of light, the realm of the one. And it's like, I can't you can't believe you that, first of all, which is encouraging. The other thing, it's like freaking Rick and Morty, because the experiencer who's having the experience is almost dissolved. So it's like this paradoxical understanding.

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And then you meet it with the other factor that the giant of Gath in the Bible had six fingers and six toes, 24 digits in all, and the entire freaking globe is lidded with rock art and statues of giant hands and feet displaying polydactyly. And I find that utterly fascinating. How does isolated Pacific islands, caves in Baja, I've traveled the entire globe and it's just amazing.

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We were just in Malta, me and my boy, Hugh Newman, doing a tour, right? And I'm writing about the Giants of Malta because there's all this mythology there. We go into the Hypogeum, this incredible underground temple complex, considered one of the oldest in the world at the time before Gobekli Tepe was found. And in room 20, there was a huge six-fingered handprint right there.

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And the goddess, the giantess, is attributed to that handprint. And then you go to Australia and you have these giant hands and feet and rock art associated with the Aboriginal legends of giants. The level of specificity is rather eye-catching, right? Like it's not just this ephemeral giant. It's like we have traditions of giants. We have the emergence of giants.

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If you'll allow me to get long-winded for like two or three minutes. Okay. Baja, California, the rock art there is showing giant beings with extra digits. The Kachimi people told the Jesuit priests, we did not do this. It's a race of giants from the north, male and female. And then you look at the panel, you have giant beings and they have extra digits.

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The Kachimi didn't talk about the extra digits. Yeah, you have these giant beings that have extra digits. Judicola Rock, North Carolina, the Cherokee tell James Mooney, Smithsonian investigator, the seven fingered.

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Petroglyph or rock art is from Judah color the giant you go to Botswana the place of emergence of Mott Singh there's a giant six toed footprint you go to The oldest narrative in the world you probably saw this a couple years ago in in Australia They found this rock art Aboriginal rock arts like thousands and thousands of years old and Professor Paul Tasson who ran the show there.

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He said there are giant footprints that are like this big and they have extra digits and And every time I have found these giant feet in hands, they have extra digits. He wrote an academic paper about it as well. So academics have like kind of reacted to this idea in different ways.

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The moral of the story is how can the entire globe be lidded with rock art and statues with extra digits associated with giants, places that had little or no contact with each other, and there'd be no story. So that's kind of my spiel. It's just like, I'm fascinated by it. I don't know what the hell to make about it, the story, but the tradition state is kind of a supernatural story.

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The giants are created by the genetic engineers, destroyed, and mostly destroyed in a flood. Humans are a byproduct of genetic engineering. Even Immanuel Velikovsky, author of Worlds in Collision, said he looked at The idea that humans were a byproduct of natural evolution. He looked at Darwinian ideas and Darwin couldn't make a strong case. He tried to fit us into human evolution.

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But the moral of the story is this isn't like the movie The Matrix where behind this reality, this kind of a shitty one where you cruise around in the ship and wear gray clothes and eat slop. There's a realm of light that Plato and the mystics talked about. And the way to get back there is to undo all the false beliefs in front of your perfection, which is a great idea.

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I mean, natural evolution. And if you read the epic of Atrahasis, the Popol Vuh in northern Guatemala, all these traditions are stating that these bizarre androgynous amphibious engineers actually made humans. And I'm someone who used to shit on this idea, like we are trained to belittle the idea of extraterrestrials, which is like, you think we're alone in the universe? It's so absurd.

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It's worse than the earth is flat. But it's like we have been taught, you know, in the academic world to basically hold these juvenile taboos about these subjects. And I like to side with like the oral traditions. I'd much rather hang out with the shaman than at a conference. You know what I mean? Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just like, wow, there's integrity in oral tradition.

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And there's a lot of ego in not just the academic world, in the alternative world, right?

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Absolutely. And that's what I feel. It's just like, I don't take myself too seriously. I take what I do seriously. Like I really get into and fact check everything and reach out to professionals and try to get everything straight. But, you know, I could take the hits. I could take it and shit on, you know what I mean?

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It's just like, no, nobody's ever come on, not just because I could bench press 300 pounds, but nobody, none of my detractors have ever like crossed my path and really insulted me. Yeah. And not just 300. I could dunk a bat. We, my brother and I are former athletes. We used to like dunk basketballs and stuff.

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And we were coaches for a long time, but no, it's, um, people don't want to be cruel to each other, but the interweb brings out the worst in you. It's like the lowest level of freaking hell. It's like level 28 at the Denver airport with a bunch of aliens, you know? Yeah. So I feel like, um, I'm a goodwill ambassador from the lunatic fringe, you know, because I work with professionals.

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I go out to good buddies, you know, that are professional and cool. They're not a-holes. They're like, you know, I'm not going to say I believe in fish gods, but that's an interesting point. They don't just like try to shit on me at every turn. This is what people don't understand. You can be extremely intelligent. but possessed by your ego and like pseudo skeptics and debunkers.

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Like the people go off after Hancock. It's like, I am going to use every bit of my intellectual wherewithal, considerable intellectual wherewithal to denigrate, marginalize, portray this person in a particular way, like feeding the guardian. these one-way hit pieces, right? And The Guardian, a truly absurd hypothesis. How can this be allowed?

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And then with this new ancient, Hancock's new ancient apocalypse, this crack about like psychic Amazonian shamans, you know, it's just like, let's portray this guy. They didn't ask for his freaking opinion. They didn't tell, they didn't read his book. Just some douchebag, you know, kicking out articles, getting a hit piece from an ego-deluded, archaeologist who is in their own cult of belief.

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And I've experienced that viscerally. It's not just an intellectual understanding. So I could speculate and I can theorize on a lot of ideas, but I know in my... soul, that the realm of the light is where we're from. Even wisdom teachers like Jesus, my kingdom is not of this world, you know, Buddha, Lao Tzu, Ramon Maharshi, they're like the temporary manifestation that I'm in is not who I am.

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Sorry, I don't want to, you know, but Graham Hancock has been brilliant in my estimation. He has paved the way for like an understanding of spirituality. He's had the balls to talk about psychedelic use, right? He's put up with so much infantile drivel If I would have, I will play archaeology for a second.

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Maybe I don't, in your Hancock, I don't believe your hypothesis or I need further proof for your hypothesis. I will say when you first started out, you said civilization is much older than we think. And there was a cataclysm that caused a reset or a destruction of this old world that you're trying to find. I, amazingly, we found Gobekli Tepe and all these sites that go back to like 12,000 years.

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And I'll go switch to Jim for a second. And Jim being a stonemason with engineering experience, Gobekli Tepe, Karahan Tepe, I'm sure Hugh Newman, Andrew Collins talked about it. This isn't kids play. This is like a vast empire of megalithic stonework while you're trying to hunt and gather and survive. This is like mind blowing shit.

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And then you switch to the Younger Drives Impact event, which is the cataclysmic event that Hancock had pointed to, and Randall Collison, who's very cool as well. So these dudes are laying out this strong case. So it's like, if you believe the pyramid is 10,000 years old, Graham, I don't know if he does, we have to see evidence at the Assyrian, right?

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We have to see evidence in the new voids that they found. It could be like, oh, there's a 2650 BC date there. Or it could be this Tegertesi time, and it's like 10,000 years old. We don't know. These are fun and interesting subjects. You know, people want to hang with Indiana Jones. They don't want to be fucking lectured about racism and wokeism. And I'll just hit that if you don't mind.

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I'm like, like I said, I got all these fucking issues of like lingering Catholicism and guilt. I'm like, oh, sorry, I'm taking your time when you invited me here.

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You're on it. You're on one. Keep going. Anyways, you know, these ideas should be borne out by science. And the idea that, oh, you know, Hancock, you know, he's doing the Hitler salute and he's got an SS tattoo on his neck. And it's just like, where does this bullshit come from? I understand there are racist elements everywhere, right?

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There's like people who think Nazi supermen did all the ancient stonework and whatever. What am I going to talk them out of it? You know what I mean? The point is that you take that and you conflate it and you paint every alternative researcher. I get called racist all the time. I'm a lot of things, but I'm not racist. And I don't even give a shit. You treat everybody the same.

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That is a way to pretend you're the good guy. Do you identify with a race? I'm like a mongrel. What am I? I'm a hybrid. I'm like Portuguese and Irish, you know? So I'm just like- But that's just a mental construct.

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which is a heartening message because you're like, this world's a freak show when you believe this is all there is. It's like doing mescaline or something.

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And if you believe in reincarnation, you've been every freaking thing, you know, every iteration. Yeah, I know, I know. The thing is, and I don't want to, I just want to, like, close this off, if you will, because I don't want to spend much time here, but it's just, like, people don't understand the racist claims. Like, Hancock, he's in, like, a biracial marriage.

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He's always, like, he's, like, all these ancient mystery guys I hang with, and I know they're, like, humanists, you know what I mean? They're, like, kind to people. You know what I mean? So... It's because I'm going to take the worst aspect and try to tarnish him with this.

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And one of the things is a lot of the ancient traditions are like the Aymara told the Spanish, like we didn't build Saqsiwaman, like these devils or these gods did. In Malta, the Temple of Gigantia, there's like these myths of the giantess. You go to Newgrange, right? Who builds that in 3200 BC? Not the ancient Irish, these freak show supernatural beings, the Tuatha de Deneen, right?

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I'm not getting a fistfight with Sully at a bar in Southie because I'm telling him that his ancestors didn't build Newgrange, but the... That kind of atheistic cult of academia, of radical academia takes it as like we got to fight for race at every fucking turn. And we got to paint these alternative people in this way. And it's just like, no, I'm interested in traditions.

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I'm not saying the Egyptians couldn't build that. I'm saying who the hell the Egyptian gods, these androgynous amphibious freaks who show up in Peru and they show up. in Babylonia and on and on and on. So I just want to put that to bed and say that the vast majority of alternative and mainstream people I work with are freaking cool. But there's radical elements, just like a politics.

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It's not like, oh, that's a good point. It's just like I'm going to you are my ideological enemy and I'm going to I'm going to take it out of you at every turn. Not like, oh, that's a good point. But this is the evidence I need to see. And lastly, I'll say to be an archaeologist or anthropologist or geologist, you're going to be like a cop. You got to take a lot of shit.

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You got to deal with a lot of weirdos to get the respect you deserve. I deal with a lot of people who are way out there, man. It's just like, I hope they don't know my freaking address. You're going to double down on your meds, you know? But I don't shit on them. I'm just like, I'll give you my case, you know, whatever.

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And to be a modern day professional, especially with social media, being measured and objective is the prime directive. So that's my big soapbox speech.

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No, that's exactly. I would say the case is, The physical evidence isn't there, unfortunately. These aren't like stone artifacts. A lot of times, you know, you'll see even the Smithsonian's reports, these giant finds like crumble to dust. And it's really frustrating. But all around the country, you have... jawbones fitting over the face of the finder.

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It's in town and county histories over and over again. Even in the history of Kentucky, there are four accounts of these giant jawbones being fit over the face of the finder. And then you go to the British Isles, and in these voluminous texts, you have the same thing, the same stories. We were building a railroad. We found this giant...

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You know, we took it off and the jawbone was of such size it fit over the largest man in the war crew there. You can't get around the fact that if the jawbone is fitting over your face and the human bones, they're absolutely enormous. That to me was like, well, this is like a strong point of proof. that there is a story here.

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And then like the giant of Stale Village, Puckett's Cave, being over eight foot tall, the whole narrative of the Smithsonian, I think that's pretty strong evidence. It's like their own records are saying it. The measurements are there. The whole case of what we did not show that adds fuel to there is more to the story.

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The idea that the entire globe is littered with hands and feet of a giant size with extra digits and that the giant of Gath in the Bible has polydactylism and that there is no. That polydactylism is a rare genetic condition amongst humans.

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Like some people have six fingers and six toes, but there is no condition where you match pituitary gigantism and polydactylism and they exist in the same genomic neighborhood. It doesn't exist. So it's like, what the hell is this?

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It's just a human ancestor that is particularly robust. We want to see long bones is what we want to see. Because once you get the femur, And the tibia, you can start, yeah, you can, you know, even Chris Stringer, this well-respected anthropologist, it's the largest Homo skull ever encountered. But this is interesting because new species are being found, right?

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Homo florenciensis, the hobbit in Indonesia. Yeah. Denisovans, it was an anthropological heresy to suggest that humans made it with Neanderthals or anybody else in the past. And that actually is a known fact now.

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Yes. There's a lot of like high altitude stuff in Tibet is believed to be... Denisovan DNA in autism, maybe too. It's really interesting. And Denisovan's Neanderthals, are these like genetic dead ends? Are these experiments that would just like ran their course? Because if you read the traditions and understand them, like in Samaria, the Epic of Atrahasis,

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Bingo, that's great, man. And a lot of people don't want to embrace that idea because it's like, oh, I like my movie character, right? You know, Jim, he's kind of a loser, but he's kind of cool. You know, it's like, I'm good. I'm a good stonemason. I could dunk a basketball, but, you know, I suck at golf. We have these attributes that we over-identify with, you know?

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We're being told that the Anunnaki genetic engineers who created humans for as a work, it's literally to work for them, to remove the burden of the gods, the labor of the gods. Now, Sitchin, I give him credit for bringing this to the world.

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I don't want to shit on him because he's not here to defend himself, but he went on the science fiction kind of self-absorbed ride where he, he had the science fiction take on it. Like it really doesn't seem to bear who circles planet earth every 3,600 years in the, in the Acadian Babylonian or Sumerian documents. It's more like it's a mistranslation of Nipur.

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I believe like the library of Nipur, that, that city is, So Carl Sagan, of all people, he said that the Sumerian people themselves believe a strange succession of amphibious androgynous creatures came to teach humans, and they knew about each other's mission. He said, it's a perfectly reasonable hypothesis and worthy of further explanation, which that's where I go. That's on Mr. Fish God.

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So I'm starting with Sagan claiming that. But then he backpedaled a little in the 70s where Sitchin started to get all this notoriety and not a lot of... academic veracity behind his work. A lot of claims of documents that weren't there and stuff like that. So let's take Sitchin out of it. If you read the ancient documents, they are clearly stating humans are byproducts of genetic engineering.

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Veracocha, who is androgynous, creates humans. Kukulkan and the Popol Vuh, the sacred Mayakichi text found in northern Guatemala, are translated into Spanish. in the 1500s. They, cuckoo moths, create humans androgynous first, like the first Adam in the Bible. Then they downgrade humans, to make a more docile work of species. And are you familiar with Paul Anthony Wallace? Yeah, right?

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He's a brilliant scholar. He's a former archdeacon in the Anglican Church for 32 years. And I'm friends with him. And we came to the same conclusion from different viewpoints. All the ancestral narratives in ancient documents are claiming that these androgynous, amphibious, self-fertilizing, terraforming genetic engineers created humans. And you're like, you're out of your mind, dude, you know?

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But you get into it. They're almost all brother and sister, husband and wife, self-fertilizing androgens that are twins. Isis and Osiris, the Ogdoad twins. If you will indulge me at some point, I think it's worth exploring the freaky fish gods, but you guide the ship because, you know, once you turn the switch on, it doesn't freaking stop. With the fish gods?

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And it's the undoing to return to the perfection.

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that we are today versus where we started hundreds of thousands of years ago that there had to be some intervention is that fair to say that's one point of proof yeah i i feel like there was real acceleration in the human um experiments it's either they took a species like homo habilis and sped it up or they created some scratch with some like aquatic creature and some primate maybe

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But viewed through the lens of what the traditions are telling us in the ancient documents and cuneiform texts, mythology makes more sense. Like Prometheus and his twin brother Epithemius, they're creating humans. You have the gods as genetic engineers and terraformers, not only in the Bible, but in all these other places too. So then it's like, oh, the gods, they're not godlike.

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They're sometimes malevolent, malevolent, sometimes benevolent. The gods are... looking like extraterrestrial beings. That's the whole ancient alien hypothesis. It's like, who are the gods, right? Are they ephemeral sky beings? No, they're not. They're not described like that.

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They are described as genetic engineers, as doing all kinds of weird things, possessing technology that we don't have, engineering prowess. I mean, they teach the arts of, you know, fuxi, teaches the fishtailed Fuxi, who's androgynous, married to his sister, Nuwa, teaches the arts and civilization and mathematics and the I Ching to the Chinese.

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Berossus tells us that Oannes, the Sumerian fish god, teaches the arts of civilization to humans, and then he sleeps in the river at night in the Persian Gulf because he's an amphibious androgen. You go to Matsai in India, he teaches... And we're talking sophisticated cultures. Ancient India. Yeah, here's my boy right here, right? That's normal.

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So Berossus in 280 BC tells us that Oannes shows up and teaches the arts of civilization. And we don't have the rest of his Babylonica from 280 BC because it was gone. But like Eusebius, Caesarea, and Alexander, Polyhistory, we have like fragments of what he tells us. So we have these amphibious androgynous fish beings that show up, right? I think you told me not to talk about this.

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I will say that if there was one thing I could, one message I could transmit is that to watch Joe Dispenza's video. It's called like talk to yourself like this for three days. Right. And it's not ephemeral new age philosophy. It's neuroscience. It's reprogramming because the mind and the body, they don't know any different from this, like the messaging that you give it.

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Bingo. And Quetzalcoatl and Leventa from 1200 BC in Mesoamerica also is rocking this strange handbag and he's an androgynous god as well. So the Dogon people of Mali, Africa, there's a book, Oga Meteli is on it. It's orange with the blind Dogon elder that I sent you an image, Ryan, if you happen to be there. French anthropologists show up in Mali, Africa.

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There he is right there in the 30s and 40s. And they hear the oral traditions of the Dogon and the blind elder elders. Wisdom Keeper, tells him that the Nomo were created by Ama, the androgynous sky god, and they are eight androgynous amphibious self-fertilizing teachers and creators of humanity. And the iconography is everywhere there. The Dogon firmly believe this.

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And then you go to Egypt and the Ogdoad and the Eniad. They are eight brother and sister, husband and wife, twins. Like Isis and Osiris are portrayed as having serpent and fish tails oftentimes. They are self-fertilizing. I read the Temple of Edfu building text, and I found three different passages that say that the gods were self-fertilizing, a very specific trait, right?

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Then one of the early excavators of Nippur, H.V. Hillprecht, he writes in his book, All Sumerian gods are androgynous. They are self-fertilizing beings. Amphibious androgynous beings. Veracocha is married to his sister, Mamacocha, and there were shrines on Lake Titicaca of a fishtail goddess that were replaced by the Virgin Mary. Veracocha emerges from Lake Titicaca.

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He is known to be androgynous. He creates humans. Marcia Silverblatt, Duke anthropologist, writes in her book, there is no doubt that Veracocha is androgynous. All these sources are saying that the gods... Self fertilizing androgens you as being a rational objective person Isn't that kind of that layers the multiple layers of specificity seem rather beyond coincidence? What is that safe to say?

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Yeah, if I thought you tape duct taped you to the chair and ran through like a three-hour presentation I think you know, I'm trying to pack a lot in here but all these gods have these attributes that I find like a and they're cooking up humans in the lab as well. So it's like, whoa. And it's like, are you marrying your sister anytime soon? It's like, what the hell does that mean, man?

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It's a freak show. But it's displaying the androgynous nature of these beings, you know?

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And even in Hancock's fingerprint of the gods, he got me on. I think it was him and Robert Temple got me on to this case of the androgynous gods. He notes that I think the Bennett monolith is there. It's a statue. Ryan, in Bolivia, it's kind of orangey, of what is believed to be Veracocha with fish scales all over them.

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And Hancock points that out, that you have these beings that are just like Sumerian gods. There it is right there, the Bennett monolith. Look, it's all fish scales. And once again, he is married to his sister. He is a self-fertilizing androgen and a genetic engineer. So that's very specific. And then it matches our fishy friends who show up in all these other places.

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And most of your messaging, the default setting is like 90% of it is the old default setting. And even me, I struggle with, oh, you're unworthy. You have these negative thoughts and you start noticing them. It's like, that's terrible to feel about like that. And you have this nonspecific anxiety running through your life, right? So it's like, how do you reprogram that?

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And also, Veracocha is believed to have bestowed the Aymara language on to the Amira people. And it's thought to be almost a made-up language. It's been studied for like 300 years. It's called the language of Adam. And an engineer, Ivan de Guzman, I think his name, that Hancock talked about, he figured out that it's like a bride translation language, an algorithmic translator.

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It's like, holy hell. And then Fuxi, who has all the same attributes in China, he dishes out the I Ching to the Chinese people. And Leibniz is this mathematician who was he's kind of the founder of the binary system of computers in the 1700s. And he received from Bouvet, a Chinese ambassador who was in in China. He he received a picture of the I Ching.

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Like if you go to Wikipedia that that's the picture that Bouvet sent to Leibniz. And he remarked Leibniz is like, I can't believe the I Ching is matching this image. algorithmic efficacy of the theory I'm working on exactly at the time that I'm exactly working on it. And what is the I Ching? It's a divination system that comes from like 5d reality into 3d reality.

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And this freaking fish God is the one who found it on the back of another fish being in the yellow river and copied it and gave it to humans. Right? So we get this weird mythology that,

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But when you get to the nuts and bolts of it, they are bestowing these advanced concepts onto humans, just like the Babylonian Sumerian math, you know, understanding of Pythagorean theorem, all kinds of complex mathematics. And we know how complex Chinese civilization is.

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How can the entire globe be littered with rock art and statues with extra digits associated with giants and there be no story?

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That's a long winded way of saying the culture heroes of every civilization on earth almost are described as genetic engineering, bizarre amphibious beings. And lastly, I'll say, Professor Robert Temple wrote about this in the Sirius Mystery in the 70s. He's the godfather of the fish gods. Everybody gets caught up in like, oh, did the Dogon know if Sirius B was a white dwarf and all this stuff?

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The real story is that the Nomo are these fish beings. So... Robert Temple, you know, brought this to the world and caught a bunch of heat. He's a brilliant academic. He wrote the history of China with... His name is... I'm freezing up. The rain man's freezing up. I'm not sure who his co-author was. Anyways, he was a co-author of the history of China and a very established and respected academic.

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The genius of China, right? So anyways, I... I get overly enthusiastic, but he said, and he pointed out, that the Babylonians called the fishmen Amidotus and Muscaris loathsome to look upon and repulsive. And that's what the Dogon said. These were beings who created us and they were benevolent, but they like waddled around.

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They were, they said they were from Sirius and they were like these, they spoke human language, but they were like half human looking and half grotesque, uh, amphibians that almost waddled around. Now that sounds bizarre. Then you get into the idea of the lame God. Like why is Osiris, you know, Eudoxus friend of Aristotle told us that, um, Osiris couldn't walk because his legs had grown together.

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And I would, more than anything else, you stop there and you come from this platform of a down-regulated nervous system. a parasympathetic response that is calm, that is kind, that is benevolent, and then you live your life from that platform. And I had a traumatic brain injury playing football. I ended up with this intractable seizure disorder, right?

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Isis is always wrapping his feet. He was never shown with real feet. In fact, he's shown with the serpents in a fishtail oftentimes. Fushi Noir is the same thing in China, in Japan. These lame gods show up. Hephaestus is thrown from Mount Olympus because androgynous Hera casts him away because he's a cripple. But he is one of these amphibious gods, is what he is.

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And he is rescued by Uranome and Tethys, who are fish beings themselves. And he works with the Telkines, who are fishtailed artisans of the gods. So if you go through this lens and you go down this rabbit hole, it's layer after layer of bizarre aquatic beings are the gods.

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You're like, it's like throwing the ball up to Jordan and have him dunk it, you know? John should be my PI director. Fish God bros.

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No, no, you nailed it. It's great because first of all, the Dogon said these dudes are from Sirius, right? They are extraterrestrial beings. That's why they're so bizarre looking. And some people think that like the crazy bag is in some anointment oil. It's like technology that allows them to temporarily exist in this atmosphere. That's another story.

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All the gods I spoke of, Enki, he was in the Apsu. They live, the Naga in India, they live in these watery realms where they have, they call them like palaces or domains.

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That's where I do all my research is the World of Warcraft.

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But it's true that all these beings live in these aquifers. Even the rainbow serpent, who is androgynous, creator god of the aboriginal Australians, lives in these watery realms. You go to the Norse lands, right? Eger and his wife, sister, Ran, they... Creator gods who live in this watery realm. So, yeah, that it's like, oh, you're a loser. You believe in mermaids.

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You know, but what are mermaids? They're on the churches all around Europe. You got like Melusine with all this weird bloodline stuff with the Merovingians. Mermaid literally means virgin of the sea. All these beings are born of virgin birth. They are self-fertilizing, right?

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And people have been seeing them, you know, John Smith, Columbus, you know, like guys who, I used to work on a lobster boat in Boston Harbor, and I'll tell you, you don't see shit like you think. You know, if you see creatures, something's there, you know? So it's like, whatever. The point is, it's not like, eh, fantasies and unicorns.

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The ancient texts are describing these beings in a real and visceral way.

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Yeah, yeah. I thought at first it was like, oh, is this like they're getting ready for some dirty bomb thing or whatever?

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What's going on? What's going on? We're living in a simulation that's really... It's getting real. It's getting real. It's getting really freaky. Which is, it is what it is. It's like these subjects are interesting. but anybody watching this, I'd say cleanse your palate and go back to the first 20 minutes of our conversation.

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After we talk about all this weird shit, because what really matters is like your eternal state, right? And getting back there. But this place is a fucking freak show, man. It's just like, it's off the rails now too, you know? And UFO Twitter is such a dumpster fire. It's just like, I believe there are extraterrestrials, but there are so many agenda rhythm lunatics that are attacking each other.

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And, uh, And there's so much speculation, right? That's the other thing. These aren't exact sciences. This isn't biomedicine or chemistry or physics. We can run experiment after experiment. Something like archaeology, you get a site, you get one shot at it. Then you look for a new site and you look for context. These are educated guesses.

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It's not the incontrovertible science that makes your cell phone work. You've got to remember that. And all that ego and the pseudo-skeptical world and the debunking world pretends that it's an incontrovertible science. And the consensus seals the deal. You know, what about the Clovis Barrier? For years, that was defended like you were the Antichrist if you went against it.

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Okay. Right? And this was the freaking dark ages, right? So the coach sends me back out there. Yeah, yeah. And the brain's all swollen up.

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Oh, yeah, I didn't give you. Yeah, I really don't know.

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Because I don't buy the Trump administration. It could be some.

Matt Beall Limitless

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That was disappointing, at least, like, more context or something. It was kind of like.

Matt Beall Limitless

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Yeah, he's definitely a hand grenade. I like Bobby Kennedy Jr. The Democrats purged the fucking ranks of their best people like Tulsi Gabbard and RFK Jr. And it shows you the cult-like behavior in all political parties, the way he's being treated. You listen to his speeches about, like, defense contractors in Ukraine and stuff. I mean, that guy is legit.

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And he's like, the CIA was created, its mandate is to ferment discord so U.S. businesses and weapon manufacturers, you know, can stay in business. That's the one thing. Forget about the rest of the—like Biden— It's like the left just started loving World War III all of a sudden because it's like all this money in Ukraine because they just got fed so much bullshit propaganda.

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They don't understand it's a proxy war. They don't understand what was going on, what Biden was doing in 2013 and 14 in Ukraine, right? It's basically a coup and they're siding with neo-Nazis. You know what I mean? It's like it'd be laughable if it wasn't so twisted. And, you know, that's just the way it is. This isn't left or right. It's just like war machine versus peace and sanity.

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I will say that I went to Ecuador. and did a ton of ayahuasca ceremonies, and it cured my seizure disorder, right? I take no medication, and I haven't had a seizure or an aura in like 15 years. That's awesome. Congrats. Bang to that, right? It's huge. And it would freak, you know, I'd get in, I'd have like a grand mal seizure to freak out my family.

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So you demand it out of like whether it's Trump or Biden. And I'll just say, you know, I'm like an old time lefty, like a Kennedy Democrat. You know, my house was a shrine to like Bobby and John Kennedy and MLK Jr., That's where I came from. And I had this false belief that if the Kennedys just came back, you know, they'd fight to end wars, you know.

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Instead, you get a bunch of shit candidates in a political party that goes nowhere. And it just it's just so obvious that the largest defense bill in human history was passed by the Biden administration. With no pushback whatsoever. Like, just that alone. So to your point, is this like, I want somebody who isn't going to just blow smoke up my ass and just talk in a real way.

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Bingo. And you don't, it's a bipartisan system. That's the problem, right? So it's not, it's like, I'm going to keep throwing red meat to my base. I'm not going to be objective. Like Bobby Kennedy Jr. is a great example. Somebody who's objective, he's in the middle. He has left and right leanings. If I were a Democratic candidate, I'd have... President, I have Republicans in my cabinet.

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You know what I mean? I would talk in terms in the middle. I was telling you at dinner last night, like a couple of years ago, McConaughey, Matthew McConaughey, who I dig, and The Rock, Dwayne Johnson, they were both talking about getting a, I like him too, talking about getting a politics, right? In a moderate sense, because they're both these moderates.

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They're like, all this toxic shit isn't healthy. Like we need to meet in the middle. And they were just dumped on as like they might be good dudes, but they're naive. They don't understand the nefarious nature of the opposing side. That's both sides. Right.

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Because the algorithms weaponize your preferences and you see the worst elements of human nature and the other side of the aisle because it's a two party fucked up system instead of like we got five parties. Oh, I like this independent candidate. We're on the shit together. Like, I want to spend time.

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That's the twisted thing is that the ego deludes you into thinking you're doing something good as you sit in this stew of negative neurochemical bullshit and self-loathing. You try to project it on some instead of like, you know, it's like the Simpsons episode when all the power goes off and they go outside. It's like Lisa Simpson. Oh, the sun. It's amazing. But that's the thing.

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You know, I'd be convulsing for like nine minutes. But I learned that there's a realm behind the realm in these plant medicine journeys as well. So it was the synchronistic thing. But the moral of the story is the resetting of the internal dialogue and the neurological state is vastly important. Like just freaking lay down and do a guided meditation, 10 minutes here, 10 minutes there.

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And then people got to make their personal choice. Like the, forget the matrix, forget the round and round and round vote. Wish people well, have a moderate objective viewpoint and do things that you love and be nice to people, be kind to people and forget the rest of the shit. And if you're on the freaking internet, if you're on a thread going back and with somebody, that's your choice.

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At least admit that you're like, you're a crackhead who can't get off fucking Facebook or Twitter. And that's fine. I used to be like that, you know? I got a little more self-regulation. Like I would post something and anytime it was kind of about me, I'd want to go take like 10 showers. You know what I mean? I just felt gross. So I've moved away from that, you know. But yeah, you're spot on.

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It's a broken system that requires independent thought and objectivity.

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That was a great rundown. It's like the first 20 minutes of our conversation was a rubber meets the road. You want to find that state, that divine state. You want to disidentify and surrender into a source of infinite intelligence. The other shit is very interesting. Let's talk about the past. You know what I mean? While we're here in body, these are fascinating subjects.

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Then the state becomes so enthralling that you're attracted to it. Like the stimulation, the talking shit, going to bars, looking for hits in the matrix, that becomes like, eh. And you were enthralled and magnetized to the state. Not to get long-winded, you sound like you're on this path too, which is great, because as dudes...

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I'm clearly not divorced from my ego fully. shitting on some haters, you know, providing context, you know, whatever. It's interesting, but that's your point. It's not like, oh, we gotta forge this, we gotta do that. No, what we gotta do is disidentify. Like this, because all the rigid thinking is a byproduct of identification with the faulty software program of the separate self, the ego.

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So you were being guided and led by an insidious tyrant rather than a benevolent source. So to your point, that's it. Oh, let's set up our third party. Let's educate these people. No, none of that shit works because it's a secondary manifestation out in the matrix after the external, I mean, the internal mind or the internal one. So yes, to your point, how do you disidentify?

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How do you be non-reactive? And I'm just talking, my life isn't like this, like where I'm like talking shit or battling people or trying to fix problems. It's more like hanging out in the field, if you will. But these... ancient mysteries are a gateway drug to metaphysics. So I wrote people in talking about giants and fish gods, but the real subversive message is that you are divine.

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You are something much greater. Right. I wanted to provide some context too. I wanted to like, Oh, I have these ideological enemies, you know, people take a run at me and whatever, you know, I'm not going to cry because I've been a know-it-all piece of shit in my life, you know, no question about it. And I've learned from it. And, um,

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I just want to, the message, because it's almost heartbreaking to live a life of disconnection. It's like, whoa, man, it's just like, it's just not cool. You know, you want to have compassion for people who are walking around deluded in this draconian world. simulation, like the mind, you know, it's like Plato's cave. How do we free ourselves from it? And it's good.

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It's worthwhile to talk about that. Like, how do we do it? And you are very well versed. And most people aren't, honestly, not to talk your game up, but you really have a good grasp of, of, uh, spirituality, non-duality. Yeah.

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A lot of guys have trouble talking about their grief and their heartache and their trauma, and it's really important to be compassionate to all people, even assholes and people you don't agree with. Like, I'm going to pretend I've never been a know-it-all dude. That's hypocritical. So it's just like have compassion for people, not because, oh, I'm so good. It's because it's your real state.

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Totally, it's synchronicity, it's divine timing. You know, oh, here we are in another lifetime. You know, we probably like freaking brothers in Egypt or in different configurations and temples. It's, you know, we're probably ditch diggers too. It's not like, oh, I'm Cleopatra's reincarnation. But you live these lifetimes in monasteries and churches I could feel it, man.

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I go, I read all the Upanishads and I just feel my lives in India, right? I feel my lives in the Middle East. I hear that Middle Eastern music and Sufism. I'm in the Great Pyramid, right? In the King's Chamber, man. It's just like, you know, I could see and experience other lifetimes at other ages when I was there.

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using it as a tool of accelerating consciousness, as a tool of enlightenment, like Edgar Cayce would say. He said, go to these ancient sites. They were built to elevate your consciousness, to connect you with your divine self, right? So I could feel it. You know, I'm fairly dense.

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You know, I can't, I don't think I'm going to give this talk to the Stale Workers Union or anything, but, you know, I can feel these other lifetimes, you know what I mean? So that's what, like, right now, it's like a platform.

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Here you go, you're in this lifetime, and you create this platform, and I'm this freak who, like, investigates all this weird shit around the planet, and we're talking about these important metaphysical realities, especially as dudes, once again, you know, because a lot of guys just kind of shy away from, they're told, don't be like that. That's weak or whatever. That's bullshit.

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I would say I'm open to it. It rings true. And that's just something... The method I follow is like the Jonas Salk method. Intuition shows the thinking mind where to look next. So I'm into Edgar Cayce. I'm not dogmatic about it. I read esoteric literature, the Rosicrucians and Freemasons, ancient texts, and I take it all in. I do a comparative analysis, and I try to find these threads of truth.

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So something is telling me that... Atlantis was actually a historical reality, and Lemuria and the Pacific may have been as well. You know, time will tell. It seems like the fingerprints of the civilization do exist in similar iconography and rituals and traditions. We now have dates that are pushing back up against the last Ice Age.

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More has to be presented in an archaeological context, but I am open to the idea. That's why I like Edgar Cayce. Because Casey knew things that he had no right knowing, but he also got things wrong and had predictions that were absolutely wrong. And I really like the Casey people. I spoke at their conference like four or five times and they're not like glassy eyed zombies.

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They're really like objective and they're spiritually based and they're really cool people that are just curious. So, you know, Casey was the sleeping prophet and he would go into a trance like state to heal people in a holistic medical way. But he started to talk when people talk about the problems, he would talk about their past lifetimes.

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And he was a conservative Christian in waking life, so he's kind of bummed out. But he pushed through and he started to receive or transmit information about Atlantis, about past lives in Egypt and this previous civilization that he claimed existed or sourced in the middle of the Atlantic, just like Plato did. You know, the Canary Islands, the Azores over to Bimini. That's the belief.

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And this idea of, oh, it was a worldwide civilization, that's from Plato's tale, which may or may not be true. I think parts of it is true. But the pseudo-skeptical idea is that, like, let's all focus on what Plato said. Like, was there an Athens that could have fought a war with Atlantis in 9000 B.C.? It seems unlikely, that kind of stuff.

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And I'm like, no, the Swatha De Danin, they show up in ancient Ireland with supernatural abilities from four lost islands in the North Atlantic. Right. These other traditions of Astalon and you have many traditions that speak of these lost realms and the, you know. I think Graham Hancock is trying to frame it. He catches so much heat anyways.

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He's like, they were like us, but they were more sophisticated. But it seemed like the time of the gods, quite frankly, of weird engineers and possible extraterrestrial intervention. And that's kind of the theme that from there spread out survivors from this highly advanced civilization. And Cayce, ironically or not, he says that the first humans are androgynous. He specifically talks about them.

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These gods, these self-fertilizing beings, they are genetic engineers in his Atlantis.

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See, I say that, and I get to do a little more context. It literally means reproducing from yourself, like a splitting amoeba, right? It's like, that is so wild. Like, what does that even look like? But these creatures... our fishy friends, that's what they are. They're self-fertilizers. And you say, oh, that's a doggone tale of superstition from Mali, Africa. But the reality is...

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The androgynous gods of Samaria were self-fertilizing. The Olokun Yamaya of West Africa, they're androgynous. They're self-fertilizing. The ancient texts, the pyramid texts, the coffin texts, the Edfu texts, they all say that these gods were self-fertilizing, which is very specific. And I'm like, it's ringing true that there's a story here. You know, that seems pretty specific.

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It's a good question. All I know is that these bizarre amphibians, are considered like Horus resides in Osiris. Osiris gives birth and souls the next line, the next lineage, excuse me, of this being. Right, so it seems like such a bizarre concept, but it would ring true if they were extraterrestrials engineering, they would have characteristics that weren't like humans. Right, right.

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And the first humans are portrayed as androgynous in all the literature. Aristophanes displays a myth of the ancient androgen in the Platonic texts. Zeus splits us down the middle, just like the Bible. First we're androgynous, then Adam is created into Adam and Eve. And you say, oh, that's a one-off. It's like, no, in the Popol Vuh, Koukoumats creates the original four as androgynous.

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So even the iconography in the oldest cities on Earth display this. a reverence or a belief in androgynous gods and first humans. In fact, at Karahan Tepe, they unearthed the double-headed androgynous statue and a being with 16 figures. And I'll talk up my game for a second here. We pitched a show, my production team and I, to Discovery, I think it was a couple of years ago.

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It was me, my brother, and Hugh Newman, Megalith Men, it was going to be called, where we would trace the origins of the megalithic builders. Here we go right here. And I wrote all the outlines. I co-produced the shows I do. So anyways, yeah, go right down there. Part of the script was at Karahan Tepe. At the time, Hugh knew the landowner.

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No, you don't. Actually, the masters would say you don't have a soul. It's a separation concept. It's kind of like, it's a catch-22 where it's paradoxical. You've got to talk... Like it's a third dimensional character coming to a second dimension to try to explain the third dimension, right? It's like, what, what are you talking about?

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You know, Hugh, Andrew Collins, they've been all over Turkey for years. And it's like the sister site of Gobekli Tepe, like 25 miles away. I wrote in the script, we want to excavate there with the Turkish archaeology team. And what we wanted to find was a double-headed iconography of the androgynous god and the gods with extra digits. Because the oldest...

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Places on Earth, all the cities on Earth, Jericho, Ayn Gazal, they all portray polydactylism and androgynous iconography, which is like, whoa, that's pretty legit. So they unearthed the Turkish team. We didn't get a show. Boo, they should have run it.

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I would have looked like Nostradamus But they unearthed the statue with 16 fingers and in fact if you see he always posts his stuff as say Birch They just found this this narrative like the oldest narrative of the world, right? And there's a guy on it with two lines by his side and he has six fingers that's the one circled Ryan the dude with this hand up with six fingers and

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Karul is the lead archaeologist of the Turkish team that excavated, that took over from Klaus Schmidt. And he says all the humanoids have strange digits, never five. So who are these gods with extra digits? Why are they associated with giants? Why are there isolated Pacific islands and Australian rock art and Southwestern rock art that has the same iconography? That seems pretty specific.

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And those are the rabbit holes that I go down in. But you find this iconography. This isn't, see, what compelled me to carry out these investigations were the work of academics. Dr. Richard Barnett in 1986 worked for the British Museum and he wrote a paper, his wife published it posthumously, on polydactylism in art and architecture and archaeology in the ancient world.

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And his quote is, there has been zero focus or attention given to this phenomena. So I was drawn in right away because I'm a pain in the ass and I saw it too and I travel the world and find this similar stuff. And then Eric Ziffer, is an archaeologist from Haifa University in a museum in Israel.

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And she wrote a paper in 2007, the Israeli Exploration Journal, where she made the case that it was called Ein Gazal, Oh, Adam, the androgyny, Ayn Gazal and the double headed statues or the double headed busts.

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So you talk, that's why Jesus and these masters, they're always talking in parables, you know, prodigal sons, things like that, or dreams, Maya illusion, right? But the idea of the separate soul is a false one, all the masters say, because the field of awareness, the field that Rumi talks about exists outside of time and space, and there is no other to define it.

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And she's saying that all this iconography at the most ancient sites on Earth, the double headed iconography is displaying the fact that these people worshipped androgynous first ancestors and androgynous gods. And then they found the same thing, the double headed idol at Karahan Tepe in real time. that I didn't get to investigate and excavate. But then I went, here's the paper right here.

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Yeah, the first Adam, androgyny in the Ein Gezal two-headed bus. So I reached out to Eric Ziffer, was very gracious and brilliant. And this people got to understand this. Like I can understand and read in the jargon of all these academic papers. The unbelievable work of all the dedicated and humble professionals is is is I'm wedded to so much and so grateful for. Right.

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And indebted to forget about. Radical wings of pseudo skepticism. It's like these are the people I work with and I reached out to her I said, do you know that they they found a double-headed statue at car on Tepe?

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And she didn't and I said I sent her the images said you should do a victory lap and on top of that Orphan man is not or if a man or if a man is an androgen with male and female body parts that my boy Andrew Collins and my friend Debbie Cartwright just realized cuz kilosec men man who has the same iconography as all the T-shaped pillars, he is an androgyne as well, which is wild.

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So some of the most ancient statues on Earth are displaying extra digits and androgynous characteristics. And you could say that's some kind of ephemeral mythology, but no, that's how these beings are being portrayed. That's what's so fascinating. And then you take the story, I'm in Malta with you, Newman, doing a tour last May. We go in the Hypogeum.

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There it is right here, the double-headed statue. That's like 12,000 years old. Where's this one again? That's at Carajan Tepe. So we're at the Hyper Jam in Malta leading the tour. And at room 20, there's a handprint, a giant handprint with six fingers on it. Right. And it's like everywhere I go, it's the same story. It's the same iconography.

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In fact, Professor Paul Tasson, once again from Australia, he said and wrote a paper about you get these giant hands and feet with extra digits, you know, with polydactylism. They're not normal size. They're giant sized. And then in Karabati, you have the same rock art in Botswana, in Africa, these places of emergence with the legends of the giants.

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And then you have this absolutely enormous footprint with six toes that matches the giant of Gath in the Bible. So that's what... Check it out. Those six-toed feet are absolutely enormous. They're like three, four feet. And the other normal-sized ones have, you know, whatever, five digits. Yeah, that one has six, I think.

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I think it's carvings from indigenous Australian aboriginals. Yeah, but right there.

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With six digits, yes. And that gets into like, you know, there's that South African footprint that actually has six digits. The one like Michael Tellinger, I think, is there. And I don't know about that. I'm not saying a giant stepped in the mud two million years, 200 million years ago. I'm just saying that at temple sites and iconography on statues and rock art.

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There's these other footprints that may or may not be that, but there are some compelling stuff out there.

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It's also associated with what else? Yes. Good question, man. The sorcerers and the temple priests in the exorcists of ancient Babylon and Samaria were obsessed with polydactylism. The Summa Ibsu is a compendium of 2,800 tetralogical omens. Tablets 3 and 4 talk specifically about polydactyly and what it represents. Like, holy shit, what do I do for my child that has like six digits?

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There's no like, I am reflecting back on it. If you read the Nag Hammadi Scrolls and you look at the Gnostic scriptures, Jesus appears in the Apocryphon of John to John, who's kind of bummed out, and he gives him this speech called the Inexpressible One, where it's like, whoa, it's like Buddha and Lao Tzu. It's purely non-dualistic.

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So it goes back to 2,400 B.C., their idea of this being aligned with the divine, the supernatural, and the malevolent. Like Lamashtu is the bird-headed freak, Ryan, with six fingers on each hand that was created by Anu, the genetic engineer.

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And she was like a population control being that would snatch the babies of newborns, of newborn mothers or mothers who just had newborns because the flood was too cataclysmic for the work race. In the Louvre, there exists... This image of Lamashtu, but also at Harvard University, there's a tablet with six fingers in black and white as well.

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The moral of the story is it's associated with divine, supernatural, and the malevolent and giants. The giant of Gath in the Bible has 24 digits in all, six fingers and toes. I travel to Palenque, and I see that there's six fingers and toes over all the statues, all the relief carvings.

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And then I find an academic paper, and they call it Divine Polydactyly, and it goes to the American Southwest and Mesoamerica. They believe that... Possessors of extra digits were supernaturals, which is pretty interesting, right? So it's not just like, oh, that dude's a freak. He's in our tribe and he has extra digits.

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It's like they are revered like a Chaco Canyon where you get the three footprints up the wall. And Patricia Crown from New Mexico University did a study there and wrote about it in National Geographic. Like they revered these people with extra digits right there as divine and supernatural people. But also it's associated with malevolence.

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You know, you get into the Bible, man, it's just like a bad acid trip. You get like the Nephilim, you get all kinds of beings that are mentioned. Like the Rephaim have extra digits, right? And Ogs, his bed stand is 13 feet by six feet. You know, there's all kinds of references to supernatural occurrences, you know? Okay. That's a long-winded way of saying I firmly believe there's a story here.

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I don't think it's just like me deluding myself. Right, right, yeah.

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Not digits. The Aztec Vatican codas, if you Google that, you get – Like in the Highlands, there's a bunch of Toltecs tuning up this massive giant. He's got his guts ripped out. That was made by an indigenous Mesoamerican person in the 1500s, displaying the legends of the giants. I think it's Vatican Codex giant, like A or something like that. We'll probably give you the image.

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So there's representations here. But yes, there are, there's lots of modern, or like say 16, 1700 in Wales, where these giant beings or giant humans had extra digits. Like Cormoran at St. Michael's Mount is known to have extra digits. You know, the giants of Tren the Mount have extra digits. So it's like, wow, can that really just be...

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Nothing can identify the field of the one, the inexpressible one, because there isn't another. There is no time. There is no space. The false universe is a projection of experience. You make of it what you want of this place. You could say it blows. You could say it's cool. That's not really helpful. It's like, what is our real state? but there's no individual soul.

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this biblical story that spread because it's in like super ancient rock art. Like I told you in Baja, California, at a cave there, the Kachimi people are telling the Jesuit priests, we didn't do this rock art. These giant beings came from the north, male and female. And what do you find? You find giant beings, male and female, women with the breasts on the side with six digits on each hand.

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So this isn't like a modern myth. This is a longstanding memorialized phenomena. There you go. Look at that. This is what the Kachimi told the Jesuits, and the Jesuits believed giants were there, and they wrote about it in their journals. So this isn't some bullshit, like, wishful thinking. I read through all the journals. These giants, see the female breasts on the side?

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This is exactly what they said. A race of giants came from the north, and Baja, California is littered with rock art where there's dudes with, like, six fingers and toes littered with arrows warring with a normal-sized race as well. Wow. Which meets the legends, like right here, that guy... six fingers.

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There's another one who's holding up two hands, Ryan, and he's littered with arrows right here, right? And that's like the Koso Raka district. And that lines up my friend Clifford Mahody, now late, unfortunately. He was a Zuni elder and I hung with him a bunch of times at conferences for like the weekend. And he told me all these traditions and he said,

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The Zuni have androgynous gods, and their ancient ancestors warred with extra-digited malevolent giants. And it is displayed in the rock art of some of the oldest rock art in the Americas, like 10,000 years old at Baja and other places. So it's not a modern day wishful thinking myth.

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In 2003, Jörg Fassbender and an archaeological team going off a clues in the Epic of Gilgamesh, believing that they found the lost tomb of Gilgamesh. Even the BBC article has a picture of Gilgamesh. He's got a lion in his arms like he's a house cat, right? He was known to be a giant. And it says in the article itself right there, Read underneath Gilgamesh.

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It says the tradition state that he is two thirds God and one third human. So he has this Anunnaki blood. Right. Right after the story dropped, the Iraq war started, which created all kinds of speculation. Right. So I don't know if it's a freaking smokescreen or not.

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What I do know is that I've spoke with York Fassbender and corresponded with him, and he's written several papers about magnometer surveys that he continues to do in Iraq. Now, he's taken clues of the Epic of Gilgamesh and believes to have found the tomb of Gilgamesh, right? So if they can find the tomb of Gilgamesh, you can DNA test it.

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Also, in the apocryphal book of Enoch, Gilgamesh is one of the pre-flood giants as well. So maybe, man, it'll be like... All truths will be revealed in one DNA test. I can I can dunk on haters and do victory laps because we're going to have a 15 foot giant who's like two thirds freak show in Unaki God.

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Maybe that's true, maybe that isn't, but that's what every master throughout human history said. The Upanishads, the Bhagavad Gita, the Ashtavakra Gita, Shankara, Lao Tzu, Ramana Maharshi, you read the literature of every actual, not like a kind of enlightened person, but real enlightened beings all say the same thing. And the Gnostic scriptures say the same. What are they saying?

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But that's how you and the idea of the Lost Hall of Records, you know, is there remnants from the lost civilization? Even Casey talks about the lost city of gold in the Gobi Desert. He said there are things that will be uncovered there. when the consciousness of humanity can meet, uh, what this really represents.

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So the evolution of consciousness will be the door that opens to these new mysteries. And I told my producer, because we want to do a show where we try to find the last hall records. And Casey said that these former Atlantean priests who put the records there will be the ones that come back again. And I said, if I go in with my crew, our faces are going to melt like the Nazis.

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Because I don't know if my energetic state will match it. But to me, the idea is cool. And I'm interested in the idea of the Lost Hall of Records. Define that. Define what the Lost Hall of Records is. the sleeping prophet, who was born in Hopkinsville, Kentucky, around there, 1877. And he would go into a trance-like state and tap into the Akashic records. That's the belief.

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That's what his source or whatever claimed. And he said that Atlantean survivors showed up in Egypt and actually built the Great Pyramids between 10,400 and 10,300 B.C. And Hermes, Thoth, and Ra-Tah Hermes was actually a reincarnation of Jesus, which is kind of wild, if you believe it. And Rata... was the Temple of Priests and Architects, who was a reincarnation of Cayce.

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And they created the Great Pyramid in 10,400 to 300 BC. And under the power of the Sphinx, I think he said there's 32 stone tablets, and there is a record of this lost world. And he, I don't know, predicted is the wrong word, but he had these readings about the lost Hall of Records. I think under the left part of the Sphinx,

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And interestingly, Thomas Dobecky and Dr. Robert Shock found a chamber there in the 90s that hasn't been excavated. In fact, on the Giza Plateau, I think it was Zawi Hawass went down 50 feet with the drill hole and struck rose granite, which is effed up because it had to come from Aswan. It means something is underneath there. So I'm not going to, like, take a run at Zawi Hawass.

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I want everybody to come together to reveal the secrets of the past, whatever they are. But there's a lot of smoke there, and this Hall of Records is supposed to exist. And you say, oh, that's far-fetched, or GPR doesn't do it. You know, that's not a technology or seismic sounding. And as you know, the Scan Pyramids team is finding...

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uh passageways and shafts and and uh just just amazing discoveries within the great pyramid and they're verifying right now isn't there uh they sent a fiber optic scope recently you probably know more than me but the moral of the story is there's some technology being brought to bear here that is saying yes there's definitely um

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evidence to be uncovered right so you get in there you're either going to find artifacts contemporaneous with the 10 000 year old date or 26 50 probably you're going to get answers here and that that's people curious about it i don't want some bullshit you know virtue signaling idea about the past i want evidence to be searched for and then we will uh see what happens

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then all these fantasies will dissipate of Atlantis and lost halls of records if we get the info that the Parham was built in 2650 BC. But maybe not. Maybe we get verification. The Cayce material rings true to me, but I'm not dogmatic about it.

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I just like, he knew things that he had no right knowing, like that there were females in the Essene sect that weren't revealed until after his death when the Dead Sea Scrolls were found. He knew the Nile flowed backwards. He also made predictions about the future, like pole shifts that didn't come true. So it's a compelling character in just the way science should be approached.

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What are they saying? They're saying that this is a projection of the one, that your real estate is perfect. The real estate has no other. But there is a tyrannical ego that's trying to tell you it's either scary or boring. And when you experience that field of the one, it's so enthralling. It's outrageous, actually. It's it's like a static, like unbelievable. You can't you're like Plato's cave.

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Like, let the evidence shake out, but... Use whatever means to get there, intuitive or not.

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Do we know that for sure? I firmly believe so. I think it might have been in front of the Sphinx temple. It's in the Giza Plateau there. Absolutely. Robert Baval wrote about it. I think Hancock wrote about it. Yeah, that one to me is like, oh, Robert Temple wrote about it. That's the smoking gun.

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My name's Jim Vieira. Thanks for having me on, by the way. Awesome setup. I'm a stonemason by trade. I studied economics at the University of Massachusetts. I come from a mix of kind of an academic blue-collar background. I've always been a voracious reader. I studied my teens.

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That's a great point. To people who don't know that granite only comes from one place in Egypt. It's like 500 miles south in Aswan at the Aswan quarry. You know, that's where that giant monolith is.

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The red granite, right? So if you're putting a core, a drill down, yeah, like this crew, and you hit rose granite, you're like, holy shit, there's like a chamber down there. Yeah. There's no question about it. Man made something down there. When I was at the Casey, yeah, this is Zowie. When I was at the Casey conference a couple of years ago, Mark Lerner and Zowie Hawass were supposed to speak.

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And I was supposed to speak too. And I was going to ask them that. I was going to pick their brain and see what the scene is. But it was COVID. We had to do it online. So I never got a chance to meet with them. And I'm not going to sit and take a run at Hawass because Egypt's been looted. He's trying to preserve the heritage of Egyptians.

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And they have a lot of reason to be quite upset about the way the antiquities are treated and everything like that. And so I'm not going to say, oh, he's involved in all this cover-up, get into that business. It's more like I want, the world wants a shitload of investigation around the Giza Plateau more than any place on earth. I get it. Turkey's continuing and that is great.

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You know, even Robert Shock in the 1990s, he claimed he's a geologist from BU that he claimed that the Sphinx, most people know the story, is much older because of the weathering patterns. Right. In and of itself, that's just one interesting piece of information. But he sat down in a conference with Lerner, Mark Lerner. in Chicago, and he was like dismissing the idea.

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He's saying there is no evidence and will be no evidence of a civilization going back 10, 12,000 years ago that was sophisticated. And lo and behold, Gobekli Tepe shows up. Now, Mark Lerner was originally a Casey guy. He wrote about the asset. He tried to, like, make the case for Casey through the Casey readings in these ideas of Atlantis.

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Then he went on the other side of the aisle and became a mainstream academic after going to Chicago, I believe, funded by the Casey Foundation. And I think Zali Hawass' education at UPenn was funded by the ARE as well. And I say that not because to choose one side or the other, but look at the karmic interplay of this drama. You got people on both sides.

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They're connected to this organization founded by this mystic who's predicting a lost hall of records, an Atlantean temple priest. And then you got weirdos like me who are in the middle of it. I love the Casey Foundation. They just asked me to speak again. We got Mano Saves the Day, who works with Robert Shock. We got Hancock, Baval. I got to say, like, all these beings got a real spiritual side.

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Like, Robert Shock, he's read a lot of Theosophist texts. I know Hancock's got a real spiritual side. So it's like, in the cosmic drama, I bet you this is some interwoven, karmic, metaphysical freak show that's going on. Yeah. I dig that idea, you know, and people could take a run at me, but I just, just the nuts and bolts of the interplay seems pretty, pretty compelling.

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You know, you can't believe there's this realm of light. And then you come back in the Matrix and tell people they want to fucking kill you. Yeah.

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I think, well, first of all, friends of mine, Trevor Grassi and William Brown, they spoke at the Casey Conference. William is an engineer who worked at Hawara. That's where Herodotus said the last lost labyrinth was. There's a lot of evidence. There's another library there. And that's part of what I want to investigate, too, for my new show, whoever picks me up.

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And William, I think like 200 students got their doctoral work out of his excavation. I mean, his investigations at Huara. He owns a property close to the Sphinx. And him and Trevor want to excavate next season. And they have found, it's called the Underworld of Giza. They got a three-part YouTube video series. It's probably out there, Ryan. The Underworld of Giza, it's called.

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And they've gone further than anybody I've ever seen. Because the Casey people have been all around the Sphinx for like 50 years. Yeah. It's called The Underworld. It's Trevor Grassi, like G-R-A-S-S-I-Z-Z-I. Sorry, Trevor. William Brown. They're the dudes who were kind of, there you go right there, right? Yes. Right. Right. Even just pause here, if you would. That's Ian Bickless in the. Yeah.

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And the belly of the Sphinx were cut out galleries leading to the subterranean part of the Great Pyramid. These galleries were so artfully crisscrossed along their course to the pyramid that in setting forth into the passage without a guide throughout this network, one ceasingly inevitably returned to the starting point.

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Now, it's like, oh, no, that's some bullshit, you know, Middle Ages philosophy. Oh, a mystic said there was a lost hall of records. No, there's a lot of evidence pointing to this. And Ian Bickless is one of the chronicles who talked about it. And there's reports of people going under the pyramid, I mean, under the Sphinx as well.

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They are working and trying to get into the Lost Hall of Records, and they spoke at the Casey conference, and they give a lot of really interesting and mind-blowing evidence in their videos. So what I think is there, what Casey said there, there's tablets, technology, and records of this lost race, right? So...

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We already have records, like coffin texts, pyramid texts, Ed Fu texts, I've read them all, that talk about the nature of the gods. Salim Hassan was considered the greatest Egyptian Egyptologist in history. And the Sphinx in 1959, in his book, he writes specifically, the Egyptians themselves believe this long dynasty of gods, are the founders of the civilization, right?

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So when I try to tell you all about what the Egyptians should believe, he's saying, no, this is what the ancients really believed. They believed they were founded and guided by these bizarre self-fertilizing androgens and that they guided the civilization.

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But if we find more records, they would probably substantiate that and add to the dates because you would have datable artifacts, you would have technology And there's some esoteric belief that it's kind of this turning point where it's like Earth's trying to get its shit together and break free of tyranny. And for us, guys like us, it's like, I want...

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I would love for these ancient discoveries to come forward that verify the metaphysical teachings of these ancients as well. So people could be like more drawn into the metaphysical and spiritual ideas talked about by the ancients, not just like, oh, that's cool. You know, some people are into the, ancient engineering aspect of this or lost technology or conspiratorial.

Matt Beall Limitless

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But for me, where the rubber meets the road is the metaphysical bounty that could come out of these finds and excavations.

Matt Beall Limitless

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No, that's a great point, man. My boy, Dan Richards, right? You had Dan on, right? Yeah. He's like, you know, this wild man.

Matt Beall Limitless

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And he's got the wherewithal in the mind of an academic, but he's objective, which doesn't happen too often. So he made the good point that they knew about these tunnels from Soxie woman to the Corey Contra decades ago, but is considered an esoteric like Blavatsky. Madam Blavatsky talked about it. It's like I don't want to give an inch to my ideological enemy. Right. So this is bullshit.

Matt Beall Limitless

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I'm not going to pay attention. And that's unfortunate side effect of of non-objective pseudo skepticism. So yes, there's definitely tunnels there. There's, I think, just more focus on Egypt. I'd say to anyone watching this, watch Trevor and William's three-part series. Actually, they're raising funds.

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I'm not, I'm too guilty to ask for money from anyone, but I think they only need like a hundred grand for like an excavation season. And I'm pushing with my production team to do a show searching for the Lost Hall of Records at Hawara and at working with William and Trevor at Giza as well.

Matt Beall Limitless

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And exploring the nature of the gods, you know, going to China, going to ancient Iraq, tomb of Gilgamesh, like piecing together the story of the gods. I think. It's like Indiana Jones on mescal. And, you know, I think people would love it. And now we just got to like have a network sign off on it. And I would say, yeah, just continue focus on this idea. This is what we want.

Matt Beall Limitless

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This is what the public wants to see. And no more bullshit, no more live, you know, like, oh, we're going to open the shaft or whatever and nothing happens. A full throttle investigation all around Giza, which would do so astoundingly for Egyptian tourism. And I'm not saying there's an enemy that's stopping this.

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I'm just like, maybe the time had to unfold where there's like more of an outcry for this, more of a desire, like what the hell is going on in time and space? We want a different culture. We want an end to wars. We want an understanding of metaphysics and the way to treat humans in a respectful manner. And we want to know the secrets of the ancients. No more bullshit.

Matt Beall Limitless

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No more fucking dog whistle garbage. We want... Even if you don't believe it, who the hell wouldn't want to investigate under the Sphinx? Who wouldn't want to investigate these ideas? Who wouldn't want to see in the Great Pyramid what these chambers hold, right? So it's getting there, and it's getting there reluctantly, but I know you're interested in the scanned pyramids.

Matt Beall Limitless

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Aren't they building equipment that's like 100 times more powerful now or something?

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Yeah. So I was in there, and I saw their setup when I was last in the Great Pyramid, And I'm like, it's happening, man. And it's whether whether the man likes it or not, it's going to happen. So I'm confident, you know, I could get fucking killed next week. I'm not going to commit suicide. I'll tell you that. But this my twisted, bizarre movie character is just focused on this idea.

Matt Beall Limitless

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And when I do shows and speak at conferences and stuff, I talk about this and I'm like, I am geared towards seeing if this is reality. And I firmly believe it is. But, you know, who's who? You know, we'll see. There's a ton of people who are behind that idea. Like the sick of the corporate speak, the sick of the political speak, the sick of bullshit.

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They want answers and they want it from a source that isn't filtered with all the nonsense and ego of today. Like the scientists of old, like Plato and Pythagoras, They were all spiritual scientists. They were metaphysicians who went into rituals to interface with the divine, with reality. And from that point, that's why you read Plato's stuff and you're like, is this guy even from this planet?

Matt Beall Limitless

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You know, he is the Western philosophy is a series of footnotes to Plato, Alfred North Whitehead. You know, it's just like, whoa. Where does this come from? It comes from a connection to the divine and coming from that place and informing the world of that reality that lies outside of Plato's cave, right? So there's a lot of people behind this idea.

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And, you know, you just got to articulate it in the right way, not be combative, not be wedded to any idea. And I think, you know, that's what I do. You know, I'm like, a loser with no social life. I'm reading like Ugaritic texts at three in the morning. I just think it's cool. And I think people are down with it, you know?

Matt Beall Limitless

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And the more this information gets out there, the more it's like, yeah, yeah. I might not like that dude's accent, but I agree with him, you know?

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I don't understand the reluctance. I don't understand any of it, honestly. You know, he's a publicity hog. You know, you get in the Osiris shaft like that A.I. recruit did, and then he jumped right on top of that. And I would think, man, that is like that is the the archetype of Indiana Jones is finding evidence for a lost civilization under the Sphinx. There is no question about it.

Matt Beall Limitless

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So what's the holdup? Right. It can't be funding. It could be, you know, entrenched positions, you know, Oh, like, um, People with alternative ideas are portrayed in a particular fashion that's unflattering and unscientific. Even my friend Giorgio said, it's like Giorgio, yeah, right? I've been on ancient aliens like the last six seasons. We hung out at like contact in the desert.

Matt Beall Limitless

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He's a nice guy. I like him a lot.

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Yeah, no, he's a solid dude. And he's like, no, no, I'm not saying aliens built the pyramids. It's portrayed that way so you can be denigrated in the most vile fashion. It's more like, who are the gods that guided the ancient Egyptian civilization? Who are the gods that showed up in Samaria?

Matt Beall Limitless

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We're being told by the Samarians themselves that they were absolutely these bizarre beings that none other than Carl Sagan is worthy of further investigation, right? And... That is what we're getting after. So people like Hawass are probably like, oh, you paramedics, Hancock and Boval, they're always busting my balls, stuff like that.

Matt Beall Limitless

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It's more that all of us are trying to find out the nature of the gods. And within the Lost Hall of Records, if it exists, we're going to get answers. But just from an Egyptological standpoint, you would want all your... resources fucking digging around there. Granite down 50 feet, the Sphinx temple, the Assyrian, is that older, right? It doesn't seem connected to Abydos.

Matt Beall Limitless

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That could be, that's a place Osiris, your boy, the fish god, he was on a raised dais there, dais, whatever. And the belief is that like he was an aquatic being that taught Just like you have these tanks from Berlin University with the fish guys all around it.

Matt Beall Limitless

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And these sacred pools, these ideas from the past are like, just like Oannes, you are these aquatic extraterrestrial beings who are teaching the arts of civilization. And they're in these vessels with the iconography and the mythology that the self-fertilizing androgynous amphibians.

Matt Beall Limitless

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Like, what if we are a restaurant or a bar and somebody hurt our fucking dick on the tits?

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Reading Hancock's original book, it's one of the things that caught my eye, and my brother's, like the really thin-necked diorite vases. I think they're astonishing. I think it proves that the ancient Egyptians were extremely capable. And who were they taught by? See, that's read like a diss. Like, oh, these cats couldn't have done this kind of work. Or there's some lost technology answer.

Matt Beall Limitless

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It's like, no, no. And like I said before, the myths of the world, even in Ireland and Greece, is that the gods informed and assisted humans in their technological advances. I would say, like, you know, when I'm doing a show, I'm always thinking experiments, right? My brother and I am master stonemasons, but things like this would be on my capability.

Matt Beall Limitless

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So I would say, get a master stonemason with a block of whatever material and say, reproduce this to the precision with the tools of the time. If we're in Pumapunku, I'll give you an andesite block and I want you to, you know, or whatever, I want you to create an H block with the tools of the time. And then let's see where it goes.

Matt Beall Limitless

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And I know you've been behind that too. That is a reasonable and objective take. Yeah. For me, they're rather astonishing results. I don't want to view things like they're beyond my capabilities or I could do my, you know, it's more like just wow. Very impressive. Like that's an understatement. Just outrageous. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. You run out of adjectives and superlatives.

Matt Beall Limitless

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People don't realize when you work with like basalt and granite. It's like freaking shaping glass. We run diamond saws. I don't shape granite. I don't even, you know, we work with like schist that we could shape with hammers.

Matt Beall Limitless

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And when we got to work with granite and other things, I bust out the diamond saw, you know, because, you know, I'm not saying it's impossible, but there's a lot of, like India, the temples there, outrageous. You know, the columns and everything like that, the barber caves, Hugh was just there doing a video. I am open to interpretations. I am not dogmatic about it.

Matt Beall Limitless

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I am astounded that the ancients did shit with like such huge blocks like it was easy, right? Like ball back in places like that. It's one thing to weigh a base stone. That's what, you know, we weigh the largest base stones at the bottom, of course. It's another to jack up a 2 million pound stone 40 feet in the air. And I'm just saying, you know, and the legends there are like,

Matt Beall Limitless

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you know, built by gods, built by giants. You know, you could say that's because he's superstitious idiots. They didn't understand the past or whatever. Or you could say that the people that were much closer to the date of the building of these structures are telling us a supernatural story. And this all comes down to were we visited by supernatural gods? Were humans genetically engineered?

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Or is it the kind of, you know, the the kind of cultish, atheistic, scientific, academic, lightning, hit ammonia, the Big Bang, we evolved from other species, and there's nothing to see here, you know?

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Even if you watch like a PBS special, you know, Endeavor or something like some series, that academic kind of smarty pants, know-it-all lens, sorry, man, I'm no fan of the hard right either, is like... this cult-like belief where they entertain the supernatural, then they shit on it and dismiss it by the end of the episode, right?

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Like the paranormal, you're an idiot if you believe in the supernatural or Bigfoot or astrology or the I Ching or anything like that. So we have an atheistic scientific cult who has been, had their preferences weaponized by algorithms and a desire to war with their ideological enemy. And then we have a lot of people who just don't want that bullshit. They just want the truth.

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They want to cut through and I don't get politics left, right. You know what I mean? Like, We were my brother and I were coaches for a long time. It's just like you want the best for everybody's kid. You don't give a shit about whose father's voted for who you hold the door. You're not. Oh, that dude has broke, you know, as a broken down car. Let me give him a ride. That's how you treat humans.

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And if you're on the Internet and in these like threads posting garbage, just admit you're a drug addict. You know what I mean? I'm a political junkie. What are you addicted to? The worst cortisol and, you know, it's not forgiving. And I haven't completely liberated myself.

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As you can see, I get a little agitated around some of these subjects because I get called a racist and a lunatic and categorized as somebody, you know, intellectually incapable of understanding how science works, you know. And, you know, whatever. I'm a lot of things, but... The moral of the story is people want a different approach. That's why a format like this, people are drawn to it.

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It's like, whoa, I've never heard dudes talk like that or anyone talk like that. You know, that's eye-opening, you know?

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I think I can pinpoint what you're talking about. I know you're a vasoholic, and I'm fascinated with them too. The era of pseudo-skepticism is like, I'm going to take on every one of Hancock's claims and... you not just like try to debunk it, but you, you know, get in there and make it seem like, uh, like obvious that you're almost gullible for jumping on the train.

Matt Beall Limitless

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But it's like to, to jump out of your specialty and become an expert in everything.

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To be, to bunk the claims of your ideological enemy.

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Where, where it's, um, instead of, like you said, uh, This is like, you know, Christopher Dunn, you got Andrew Collins, Freddie Silva, Hancock, you get all these people with differing opinions. We're all trying to figure out the past. Right. And so it's not it's like just curiosity and let's see what happens. But there is a real error that's that's happening. And people are tuning that shit out.

Matt Beall Limitless

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You know what I mean? That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah. People are interested in that. You know, they'll listen to Rogan and, you know, these kind of podcasts with different ideas. And they'll be like, you know, and the context will be provided and they'll be able to understand these mysteries through a lens that makes more sense. Right. So I'm with you, though. It's like, yeah, I don't know that.

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Like, if I don't throw red meat to my base and debunk this claim, you know, I'm leaving something out there. So we can all do this. We can use all into, this is the thing. You get highly intelligent people using all their intellectual capabilities to denigrate and marginalize an idea from their perceived enemy.

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Right. So it can seem rather impressive if you look at it from one side of it, like their base, you know, the pseudo skeptics and the debunkers, they love this shit. You know, they, they want me to talk about Atlanta so they could shit on me and laugh at me. You know what I mean? And, and,

Matt Beall Limitless

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It's just it's just like politics, you know Let's let's placate the base and I'm the hit on the maverick like I could be the fake maverick like oh I'm taking on big archaeology and I'm the big hero and they're covering up all the stuff just like oh I'm taking on the skinheads and the racists and it's all bullshit. I like working with professionals.

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I I enjoy people who understand the lay of the land who are humble and are interested in curious, you know and I've been possessed by my own ego talking a lot of shit, trying to prove the case. Not not really. You know, I could like say, oh, I was reacting to a first response. That doesn't matter. It's all ego, you know. So to your point, yes, I think let's take a measured approach here.

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And just like allopathic medicine. Right. Versus alternative medicine, like an integrative approach is what is needed, say, in the world of science and archaeology. People are sick of the allopathic version of it. You know, I go to my doctor. Thank God he can, you know, put a brace on my ankle or something like that.

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Not just reading academic reports and journals, but reading metaphysical stuff like the Upanishads, the teachings of Lao Tzu, Edgar Cayce, Rudolf Steiner, the mystics. I felt like, or I was drawn to this idea that there's another reality behind this reality. And it just rang true. And so I've spent a long time in the ancient mysteries game.

Matt Beall Limitless

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It could be viewed, you know, one would say you're a being who's come to push the envelope, right? You've come to this realm to like, you know, to push in that direction. So you could argue maybe I'm that kind of pain in the ass as well. But you could also look at it as a representation, the worldly systems of the affiliation with the ego, right?

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So you could say, oh, these, you know, Pfizer, you got all these big pharma and the malevolent and they're doing all this, you know, evil shit, which may or may not be true, but there's control structures, definitely. But it might mean, you know, I'm not going to, you know, go to the board meeting and like call everyone out. It's more like, do you raise your personal vibration?

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Do you preach that gospel of like, this is your real state to raise, you know, like Maharshi would say, the more you can do or I can do to disidentify from the temporary movie character, the more we bring into this realm, our sahaja, our natural state, and the more we emanate that.

Matt Beall Limitless

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Bingo, that was brilliant. description of it. Yeah, you're absolutely right. And that's what every master says. Like Ramana Maharshi, he was this incredible and enlightened master. He lived up until like 1950 in Tirumvalli near Mount Arunachala in southern India. And people would come up to him all the time. Some would sit and he would just emanate the state like the teacher I study with, like

Matt Beall Limitless

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So that's, it's one of these things we've been in the dark ages and we are coming, you know, Casey even predicted like the realm of light for like a thousand years, which is cool. Like, You don't get resolution in The Matrix. You don't get this utopian city where everything is perfect.

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But a better platform, a staging area to find the escape hatch and wake up from the cycle of reincarnation is something that I think is important. Right? Like, thankfully, in this world, we're not starving to death and wars and all this crazy shit we've had to deal with in other lifetimes. It's like there is an opportunity now, you know, and that's why people are begging for more peace.

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It's just like... Let us calm the nervous system of everyone. Let us come from a place where we're connected to our real and divine state and operate from there. So like you're saying, it's just like, oh, what the hell do we do? I think it's just what we're doing.

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And then when you sit down and you listen to a guided meditation for half an hour at night or whatever you do, it's just like that state becomes so compelling and enthralling. And if you break through to the realm of light, and I have through ceremonies, I have through reading the Ashtavakra Gita for months on end, stuff like that, it's like jaw-dropping.

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I can't believe, you know, we're here, it's just like... We got to better the most in this life. We're physically healthy and stuff like that. Our real estate is like, drop the mic. You can't fucking believe I am this. It's so enthralling, so awe-inspiring, just what the mystics talk about. And to get there, you must undo all that is false and put in front of you. Every mystic says that.

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So that to me, I mean, we're gonna continue to do cool shit. Hopefully we get a chance to work together in Egypt and make shows, do a bunch of really groovy stuff. But at the end of the day, that's the prime directive is like, reemerge is what you already are. Yeah, makes sense.

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Beliefs are a search for truth of what you already are. They're a misperception. Now that doesn't mean, I believe this is black, that's one thing, or I know this table to be black or something like that. I think the overindulgence in beliefs is a sign that you're in this agitated, externalized state, grasping for what you already are.

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I'll give an example, I don't mind telling personal stories, because I don't take my movie character too seriously. A couple of years ago, I got close with this woman, And it didn't go into a relationship. Like, and I just, I had this like real tough heartache about it. Just this real like depression and sadness that lasted like fucking 18 months when I was, when I was born.

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My mom was like hypomanic. So she had electroshock therapy like right after I was born. So I was like raised by a pack of wolves, you know? So I have neurological tendencies where I have to like... bring myself down more into my body or whatever, you know? So my mom was great, but she, you know, she was profoundly mentally ill. So like the mother and the child, she had the same EEG.

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So I understand dysregulation and I've dealt with traumatic brain injury and the, the heartache I felt was, was me trying to rediscover what I really was. Right. It was just like, uh, in seeking it in an external partner. Right. So I was just like, Oh, if I find the right woman, you know, everything's going to be cool. Oh, my soulmate, you know, like putting it there instead of turning within.

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the flow, he would call it, like this energetic bliss. And people would just bask in it. And he's like, this is your real state. The highest teaching is silence. But people would ask him ego questions all day long. And what he would say is who was asking the question, which would piss everybody right off, right? Because it's like... He never answered an ego question, right?

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And that's just a belief. And now like, I, I'm never lonely. Like I've been seeing a weird monk for a long time. Maybe I, you know, at some point I might have a relationship, but I, I'm never lonely. I've burned that away from me, right? It's like Bill Belichick, not too high, not too low. I really feel like I have no real addictions. I don't really drink anymore.

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I'm not, I don't deal with the belief systems that I used to. And I really feel that beliefs are derived from a false belief that you're not, well, a false belief, a false reality that you're not perfect, right? Ramana Maharshi, who is asking the question, you are already perfect. Let's sit in silence. That energetic state that you can feel that is benevolent, that is your real state.

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The constant external searching is wrapped up in belief that really doesn't have a faithful underpinning. If you know what I'm saying. So this shit is cool. And like, there's a lot of hours in the day. So like, we're going to, you know, we're going to exercise. We're going to do things. We're going to talk about ancient mysteries. But what we really are is no belief is a blissful state of no mind.

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And you mentioned it earlier. The mind isn't your buddy or a lot of the mind isn't. It's a control. It's a it's a corrupted software program that wants to stay in control. Like the demiurge and the archons in the platonic texts and the Gnostic texts. It is like a disconnected from the divine realm. So it runs and runs and runs.

Matt Beall Limitless

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I mean, I've been doing the Joe Dispenza, like reeducate yourself externally. And I can't believe the shit I say to myself. And I think of myself as pretty well adjusted. Like, wow, man, I just like uncool, like anxiety provoking this river of misery in the background that the Course in Miracles talks about. It's not cool. Rewire that part of the belief system. And then... That's the mind.

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And it's like this thing that is desperate to identify itself and survive rather than the operating software of a temporary excursion into the matrix or whatever, right? So no, and your focus is exactly right. It's like undo, disidentify, non-reactivity, is the prime directive of the non-dualistic teachers. Do not react to the external world.