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Jerry Holman

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Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1117.737

We were able to identify everybody, interview them.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1128.786

We knew they saw a white male, but the descriptions were slightly different.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1142.895

looking like he was waiting for somebody. As she's walking back towards the trailhead where she parked, she sees two girls, later identified as Abby and Libby, walking towards the bridge.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1165.362

He did not see anybody or notify us of anything unusual.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1226.765

We were definitely able to tell... Pretty good description of the person, white male, blue coat, sweatshirt, head covering, blue jeans.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1611.932

And, you know, we interviewed Ron. He would deny all that. He would deny any of that, those accusations.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1629.468

So we followed up. He said he had the cousin drive him to the fish store. So we located the cousin. The cousin backed up Logan's alibi.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1642.191

Initially, the cousin was covering for him. But then during a separate interview, he said no.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1652.881

Because he... Why? Yeah, exactly. That's what we thought.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

1798.058

No, not to my opinion. He's very tall, older than the photo.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2199.894

This Anthony Schatz was soliciting young girls for nude photos and videos. And some of the girls were friends of Liberty, and one was Liberty as well.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2211.361

It's bad, yep.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2218.029

No, no. And the problem with social media, we could tell that they're communicating together, but we don't always get the content of it. But we do know that he was asking for those because she had told people that he was asking and she wasn't sending them.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2441.669

Yeah, absolutely.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2491.381

He's definitely a bad person, was doing bad things.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2528.862

Kegan Klein is the person that was using the Anthony Schatz profile to solicit girls to send them pornographic photos.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2568.005

He's a bad guy. He's a pathological liar. He would tell us something we'd look into and it'd be a lie. He lied a lot.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2593.088

That is true. They checked it, and they thought he was in Vegas. But we knew shortly after that he wasn't in Vegas.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2611.386

Yeah, absolutely. He was definitely someone who we believed that could have been capable of doing that.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2797.934

We could never put his phone or any technology of him being in Delphi. During the time of the murders, he was actually at his grandmother's house.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2813.029

We conducted a thorough investigation and ruled him out.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2817.333

Another dead end.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2877.672

I knew it wasn't from lack of effort. We had a great team. We were working extremely hard, you know, 10, 12, 15 hours a day, a lot of sleepless nights. We were really focused on finding the killer, and we weren't going to give up.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

2986.304

So it was misfiled as cleared, so no one followed up on it.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3002.6

Absolutely.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3007.262

I thought that, you know, that's bridge guy. So I'm like, we need to talk to that guy. That's the guy that we were missing.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3128.928

He had a lot of knives, a lot of clothing that matched the description. That matched?

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3173.135

Once we got the result back that the round matched his gun, we decided to call him back in for another interview.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3190.283

Why is your round from your gun at the crime scene and he just denied it and could never give us an explanation?

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3206.209

He just made the comment that I was going to pay for this, and I told him, no, you're going to pay for this.

Dateline NBC

A Walk Through the Woods

3526.465

It was definitely investigated very thoroughly by multiple people. No stone unturned. We did not have tunnel vision. Multiple officers spent multiple hours, multiple months looking into that connection.