Jeremy Renner
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then in doing so, I'm stepping on the tracks, hit the button wrong. It threw me off. And now the machine's rushing towards him. I have no idea. I know he's within between the truck and that's 10 feet away. I get up as quick as I can and I just quickly jump back on this machine or tried to jump back in the cab, leaping up and over three feet, these spinning tracks.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then, you know, I don't make it and I get caught underneath this machine and it crushes me and it rolls over like a tank would run over. A log just, you know, doesn't think, does it? And, uh, and it didn't crush my nephew, which is great.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Oh, yeah, that would have been terrible. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Wouldn't my body slow it down a little bit? Probably not. Probably not. This thing will climb up a tree. It's gnarly. The power of this machine is quite insane. It's impressive. You need it. It's the only thing that will kind of operate in that kind of snow, that kind of crazy conditions. And so at any rate...
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You can edit this the way you want, but at the end, I break 38 bones, my skull cracks open, and my eyeball comes out. I can see my eyeball with my other eye. I can't breathe. I'm awake the whole time during this thing. And I have to survive for 45 minutes on the ice until I get hella lifted out of there.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And a lot of the book is about, tells you about that experience because there's a lot of things. There's a death and coming back, and there's a lot. There's a lot of... Mindset stuff, a lot of fortitude. Mental acuity is what got me through. Physical, I mean, there's a lot of things that got me through. But the power of the mind and the body is wonderfully responsive to your thoughts, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
to heal itself, to hurt itself, whatever. But it's pretty, pretty amazing what the mind can do.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
The more people in a room, the respect level for humanity kind of diminishes. Yeah, the more humans they are, the less humane they are. Exactly. And I just refuse to be in that environment because I think it's disgusting. That behavior, I'm very affected by it and very sensitive to it. So I just choose not to be in those environments.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's hard to know. I mean, that's why I had to reflect. One thing that was very cathartic about this book is just reflecting back on what prepared me for that situation. I've been in, not near-death experience situations before, but I've been in like... You do your own stuff. Yeah. And I've always been challenged and I've always come out clear-headed in all those adrenaline rush situations.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So it's hard to know because that's how I've always been. I like roller coasters, but I'm not like a thrill junkie, really, right? I'm not like an adrenaline junkie. But I just know how my mind reacts in those situations. I'm always very, very clear-headed about it. and an actionable person. So that helped. And then, you know, there was like breathing. Breathing was like you say meditation.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Well, I was in Lamaze class when I was 12 years old, when my mom was pregnant. So, and that all Lamaze is, is preparation for birthing a child. Mitigating, you know, pain, managing your pain, As you, you know, it's very, very painful for a woman as she's giving birth. So you use these short breaths and all these sort of things.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You're mentally feeding them ice chips and keeping their attention away from their cervix, right? And do all these sort of things. I learned that at 12. I didn't know that that was going to save my life on the ice as I got ran over by a snowcat, right? But that was huge in it. That's all I was trying to do. Look, if you can't breathe, what are you going to do? Look for your next breath.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You need to breathe. I saw my eye. I worry about that later. I saw my twisted legs. I'll worry about that later. That'll hurt. Then I have to find my next breath or this is all, I'm a goner, right? Everything will start failing. I'll lose consciousness. My organs will fail. I'm dead. So, you know, yeah, there's a lot of things I think prepared me, but I can only reflect.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I can't say for certainty, right? How could we? But yeah, I think there were a lot of things that prepared me, but it was definitely the mental thing. But through anything, you know, even into the recovery, it's like the only thing you have control of is your perception of something. That is it. You think you can control your body. You think you can control something.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But it starts with your brain and your mind and your spirit of what you believe in, how you see something is all in your control. And I'm not like the half glass, half empty kind of dude, right? But it's a version of that. I could have whined and complained and like, oh God, I'm never going to work again as an actor. None of that, I didn't care about any of that, right? That had no value to me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
The value was the mental acuity to get through, to find my next breath, to zoom out so big and so wide. And I keep my perspective there. I live in a very comfortable, loving, pure life where I oversimplify the simplicity of life Because it is just that simple.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
it was probably the first 25 that were the toughest. Cause I don't think, I don't think an EMT or fire department can get there until like the first half hour. So the first half hour is rough. And I died in that time. Cause I got tired. I just got, cause doing the equivalent of breathing that we all don't even think about breathing. It's not even conscious, right? It's just sort of reflexive.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It just happens in our body. But I had to, like, work. And I was, like, doing, like, a one-arm push-up. It took every piece of physical energy I could do just to exhale a little bit so I can get a little bit more back in. I was suffocating.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, in a way. Yeah, yeah. I was still getting air. You can't do that underwater. But I was like a boa constrictor kind of feeling. Like, it just squeezes more. You suck blood out of the air. It's squeezing you. And it's because my whole rib cage, my shoulder, all this side of it was just collapsed on my lung. It was already collapsed. instead of suffocating myself.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So I got, once I had my nephew lift my arm up enough to lift my rib cage off my lung, I could get a little bit more air in. It wasn't like suffocating so much. So I can, it was still excruciating, but to breathe was quite, quite the effort. And if you, just to take deep breaths for a minute, you feel lightheaded, you might pass out. But like, this is just, it's just, it was just exhausting.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And with each exhalation and then inhalation, it was just like, so did it feel long? I don't know. I can't answer that. It was just like, I was waiting for my next breath. I was never sure it was going to happen, but I was going to will it to happen.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Definitely very sensitive. I've always been an observer and quite insular in kind of my thoughts and things. I'm not a talker of small things. I can't really have any quite small, trivial talk. I certainly can have a good time until jokes and dah, dah, dah.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I got tired. And that's, you know, that's when it. Everything just started slowing. Actually, I guess maybe it felt like a long time. Things started to get slow. And consciousness, the neighbors got here by this point. A lot of things transpired. It was me and my two neighbors I'd never met and my nephew Alex there for the first half hour. They're on the phone call with 911, whatever.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And they're trying to do everything they can to keep me alive. And I just got tired. And that's when I was gone. And then came back. And I was pissed about it. I saw my eyeball again. I'm like, oh, because it was so great. I'm like, oh, it was so great. I was having such a good time. Because I was going, because I did sort of regulate breathing and then it just started to slow.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
The heart rate started to slow. It was like 18 beats per minute. It wasn't just sort of like I just croaked, right? It was just smoothly into it. Gently away. Just gently away. And like later, everyone, it was great. And then something brought me back. Psych. God damn it. And I saw my eyeball again. I'm like, ah, dude, I'm in this busted body. I'm in this busted body again.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm like, all right, here we go. Let's get back into it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
No, yeah, no, no, no, no. It wasn't for very long. It was only like, you know, my neighbor, because it just happened to my neighbor the day before when she saw her uncle die. What? Yeah. Yeah, I think it was her uncle. No, it wasn't her brother. I think it was her uncle. And it just happened to her then. And she happened to be working in the medical field anyway.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So it's kind of a great thing having kind of a nurse be your neighbor. But yeah, she said, yeah, I saw you go. And yeah, because your face turns all these colors and it's like a lizard or a chameleon or something. Yeah. At any rate, so I don't think it was gone for very long, but it doesn't really matter, I suppose.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I guess not long, not dead enough to have, you know, brain dead, you know, or whatever. Or maybe I'm brain dead now.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But most of the conversations I have are quite in-depth or quite thoughtful or spiritual or psychological, emotionally driven, connective sort of tissue. Not just sort of like, let's just talk about Starbucks order. I mean, I just don't belong in that conversation. You know what I mean? But that's just me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Uh, you know, it's, it's one of those, it's a queer situation, you know? Um, it just like, it's looking at your foot facing the wrong direction. And then your other leg, that's not a joint. It was broken, shattered. Like there's twisted all like a pretzel. I knew that it's supposed to hurt. Did it? No, I don't hurt later. I'll worry about that problem later.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And just like the eye, I'm like, ah, man. And I, and I rolled my face on it. It's like, let me put that thing on ice. Cause I was like laying on the icy asphalt. So let me ice that thing. You know, I thought about that, dude, right? I said, it is funny, right? But that's what I thought about. I'm like, oh, let me put that on ice. And I had my nephew lift my arm just so I can breathe.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
There was like conscious, my hyper, hyper-focused conscious stuff was to survive. And I went through every checklist of my body. I have a strong, strong awareness of my body as well, as an athlete, as a stunt performer, also as an actor, because it is my instrument to even act. So I'm very, very aware of my body, how it works, all the things.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So to my knowledge, I don't know all the things, but at least I know the basics of how my body should operate. So I'm just constantly going through, like, you know, what it really initially felt like for my breathing was like when you lose your wind, you get kicked in the stomach or punched in the stomach. It's that suffocating, trying to find your breath, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's what it sounds like on the 911 call. It's like this...
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But it's just, you can't get air in, right? It's like you're cramping in your diaphragm. So I kept saying, if I get this cramp out of my diaphragm, I can get a deep breath in. I mean, this is never coming, but I keep telling myself, let me relax, let me relax, let me see if I can just get this. The immediate is get that air in.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
If you're not getting air in, your immediate thing you need in your life is air in, right? Yeah. Pretty obvious. So I start there. So I'm just trying to work through that and getting my body to be in a place so I can get air in. And eventually it got to that place where he had to hold it in a very specific, my arm up in a specific way so I can breathe.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I can start regulating the painful way to now the new way I breathe. The one arm push up breathing type of thing. A lot of effort. And yeah, it's that. But all the mental part of that is the main thing that got me through initially. That sort of mental focus. No one was going to help me breathe, no matter who was there, who could have done it or not. Nobody could have.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I was the only one that was going to be able to make myself breathe in any way possible. No one knew exactly what was wrong. I was kind of flattened. My head's crushed, you know. There's blood everywhere. So they're thinking a whole lot of different things. I'm like, fuck all y'all. I just need to breathe in so I can breathe out. I'd even use expletives to help me laugh. Didn't sweat once.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Oh, I see. I had all these, yeah, it was hookers, whores, and hamburgers. that I would scream out because the huffing of the H sound would make me laugh. I had to do that to get air out so I could suck air. And also have a laugh. That's my eyeball. That's my twisted ass legs. Yeah, I already died. What else needs to happen? This is my body. It's my body. I'm owning it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So those are the sense of humor I even had, if you can. In that horrifying, you know, drawn out 45 minutes, you know.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
There's no like rule book. There's no like directions and like how to, how to overcome something like that. Right. We're not taught how to do anything.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You just do what you can do. What do you got? And every say yes to everything, do whatever works. Right.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So I just, you know, when I know those things about myself, I just try to put myself not in those situations so I don't set myself up to fail.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah. Yeah. You had to, had to. I was dead. If I passed out, I would have been dead. I wouldn't be sitting here. I'd be dead. They're too far high up in the mountains. No one could have gotten to me. Oh, of course.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, at 8,000 feet. So maybe my body's also prepared for it. I also have higher mental oxygen in my body because I do work on that stuff. But there's no one thing. But the mental part of it was the one thing that did get me through at least to the next exhalation. And then that got me, it bought some time. You know, I came back for whatever reason. And then the paramedics got there shortly after.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then they had to, you know, do the crazy thing in your chest. They stabbed your chest like in some movie or something.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Either that or release pressure. Right. Don't ask me. I didn't go into the details of it. Even after the fact, I had to worry about other things than the scar on my chest. I couldn't care.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's pretty much like that. I'm like, oh my God, that happened. But yeah, then they could also get fentanyl and all that stuff into you and sort of mitigate the pain.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. So I think that's when... When they started cutting my clothes off, I'm like, I relinquish my duties now.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I give my body to you. Because I did the best I could. But now, like, you know, so I think they already have me regulating my breathing or using a pump to kind of regulate the breathing a bit more so I didn't have to, like, consciously fight for every breath. So I just said, I give my body up. I'm done. And I just let them go for it. And thank God for them.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And one was my friend, or a friend of my friend. One of my best friends, he was a firefighter. He is a firefighter. He just retired. And then the guy that jabbed me and stuff, he had to call my buddy and be like, look, Renner just got hella lifted out of here. Sorry, we did the best we could. Dude. You get that phone call. It's brutal, man. So brutal that my friend had to get that phone call.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But at any rate, all these little moments that keep flooding back, talking about it, you know? Such great, it all represents love to me, you know? If I catch any feelings, if I, I don't get triggered with rage, I don't get triggered with disappointment or sadness ever. It's triggered with an overwhelming sense of love, gratitude. Something, um, I hope never goes away. I can't imagine it will.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah. I mean, it's the ultimate thing that got me through. It's the only thing you take with you when you die is the love. It's such a beautiful, beautiful space, place. And a loving space.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was pretty much, I was, yeah, they had to put me in a coma and get to work. There's a lot of life-saving stuff they had to do initially. Don't know about any of those things. Even to this day, I don't know all the things that they had to do. Probably don't care, want to know. You know, you have to move my eyeball back in. I know there's duct tape on my eyes.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Again, whatever works, dude. I mean, what's in my body is just hammers and hammered screws and a pipe that they've hammered through my knee to down here and screws and plates. And it's very like sort of this carpentry work. So putting duct tape on my face to hold my eyeball back in, you know, is just as, you know, it's just how you do it. You gotta use what you've got. You use what you got.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, but not now. It used to be because the platform was to be a famous person talking about a movie or some work you did. This is not that, right? I'm here today to talk about health and wellness and overcoming obstacles and it's nothing more human than... So it feels much more personal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's more, I think, exciting because I think there are...
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And that's what they had. That's what we did. And that's what worked. My vision in my left eye is better than my right eye now.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's better. Yeah. It's amazing. I don't recommend it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Well, that was the initial... Every synapse is firing. Everything in your brain is lit up because when you're crushed. Everything was, I never experienced a feeling like that in my life. It's like if you hit a hammer on your thumb, you're like, oh, motherfucker. But like on every inch of your body, it's like, what is going on? There's so much information. You don't know what to pay attention to.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So that was very confusing. The pain was everywhere in everything, even like in your spirit. Everything was, you don't know what's going on. So it was very confusing. It was very bright, a lot of flashing, you know, because there's like a lightning strike that happened when my skull cracked and the eye came out. It's so weird that I'm talking about this.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah, yeah, because it don't look like it happened, right? Yeah, yeah. There's like a lightning strike and, you know, you start messing with, I don't know. It was such an overload. Felt like it was like, you know, you got to turn off the power because there's an overload of information, overload of pain. All your nerve endings are like on fire. Like it was like fiery, hot lava.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It was like all these things were happening. And again, the worst part of it is like you got stepped on by an elephant and you can't breathe. You just can't breathe. That was the worst of it. It's like, who cares about the rest of this stuff? I mean, all of it hurt. But I don't even know what that is anymore. Pain became my bitch a long time ago.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's because it's all a construct in your mind anyway. It's your body's way of saying, hey, it's trying to preserve itself. Your body tries to preserve itself by saying there's pain. Oh, that's hot. Don't touch it. Or this is that. Don't do this. Try this, right? So again, mind you, this is not during the accident. This is after the accident. And I started to deal with pain in a different way.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I wrote a whole chapter on it called The Agreement about having neural pathways, you can change them for your brain. How I receive pain is different than how I received it before. I can still stub my toe and ow, motherfucker, yes, right? But I understand what it means. what the body's really trying to tell me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Like when the body gets a break, it instantly swells, tries to create its own cast and do all these sort of things to protect itself. The body just tries to preserve itself. It's a miracle what the body does. It's fantastic. If you are in alliance with, And what the body's trying to do and the body realizes, ah, you, you are listening to me. Okay. I won't bother you so much anymore.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And that's where we became the agreement of like, you can't tell me that's painful anymore because that's a metal piece of metal. Now you're not even a bone. You can say it's broken. So I have to reprogram my brain from receiving those pain signals in that way. And it takes a time. It takes about 28 days to really, really reprogram.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, it's like a lot of cycles, like from a menstrual cycle, a moon cycle, human patterns and behaviors, a lot of toxicities to leave your body take around those times. But it's just something about... that 28 days seems to be something congruent in a lot of different versions of our lives.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And with patterns, to really create a positive pattern or take a negative pattern to a positive pattern, it's like 28 days. And then you don't have to think about it. It's not a conscious thought anymore. You don't have to be grudged to stretch every morning. You're just stretching every morning after 28 days, essentially. It doesn't have to even be that long. It could be less. But to...
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's all within your brain and the power within your brain and your mind. And it takes fortitude. It takes trust and faith and a whole lot of other bag of goodies that you can't be weak in spirit. You cannot. You have to be strong. if you don't believe it, then no one's going to believe it kind of attitude. It's not going to get done if you're not going to do it, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You have to do it and believe it. And there was a lot of that came through because I had to walk on my leg. And my leg had a spiral fracture, spun around, it was shattered. And so they had to hammer a big piece of titanium in and just plates and screws and plates and screws. And he said, you're going to have to walk on this thing.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
willing ears I don't have to force hey I'm here to tell you about this Avenger movie and here I put a lot of willing ears for the Avenger movie yeah there's a lot of willing ears but I couldn't really talk about anything and then you know you're kind of not you're selling something but you're kind of selling something this I'm not man I really am not and it's there's I think I still am not sure how and why there is interest in something and me dying coming back perhaps
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Otherwise, it's going to be pretty much just like a log, stiff thing. I'm like, all right. To keep it mobile. Yeah, to move it. All the scar tissue, right? You know, you got to keep this thing rocking and moving. So I got the okay from the doctor. Like, I have to move this thing. Otherwise, it's going to be just a club leg. So I started doing it, and my body is screaming at me. Ow, ow.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I step down. Ow, ow, ow, ow, mother of God. Ow, ow, ow. It's broken. My body's telling me. I'm like, no, it's not. So I started yelling at my foot and my leg. I'm like, look, motherfucker. Sorry about my language. I'm just like, look, we gotta work this out. The doc says, you're not broken because you're a piece of metal.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Like I'm literally talking to it like it's a, like my appendage of my body is like a, like a, like a scorned lover or something, or like a, like a bad dog.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know what I mean? It's like, what are you doing? How would you, why would you cheat on me? You know what I mean? You're, it's, you're betraying me essentially. It's such a betrayal. And so to be so crazy enough to like, to talk about my appendage as a separate thing, you know, um, it was opened up to this idea that I have to really change, I have to change it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Cause I know with all the things I'm telling you, I knew before. I just like, I have to really work this out. I'm literally arguing with my leg every day. I'm arguing with my leg many times a day. Every time I go, I have to go move it, get blood flow through it. So for blood clots, right? Scar tissue, all this stuff. So otherwise I'm threatening, dude, I'm going to lop you off.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm going to chop you off. I'm going to get a wooden peg. I'm going to get a fucking parrot and an eye patch and go live a pirate life, motherfucker. Either fucking do it or don't. Like I'm screaming, right? I'm saying it like I'm saying it now. Like no joke. But saying it with that intensity and that belief, dude, because I did also was okay living the pirate life, dude.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I was totally okay with it. I was just happy I was alive. I didn't care about acting again. I'm just happy to see my family there with me, all the people I love around with me. I didn't care about what the future held for my body, dude. in that sense. You know what I mean? Or I was willing to do it. So, I'm threatening my leg that I'm going to chop it off. I mean, it's the most insane thing ever.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I know I'm I know that as I'm saying it. And I reflect back on it sometimes at night and I'm like, dude, that was a good talk we had. That was a good talk. It's a lonely business, recovery, right? When you're in a bed alone, you're the only one recovering no matter how many doctors you got, how many people love you, giving you tea, whatever the heck it is.
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All that's amazing, but you're the only one that can make you get better. And that's it, man. And me and my leg were partners of crime at the time. And yeah, I'm talking to curtains. I'm talking to all sorts of things. It's quite a lonely space. But it was a thing that helped me reprogram the neural pathways and how I received pain.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And it took about 28 days, took about a month of me yelling at my leg as I'm doing physical therapy. I'm doing it every day. I did it as soon as I got home. I was in two ICUs for six days apiece. As soon as I got home, because I was breaking out of them every day, get me home, get me home so I can sleep. And as soon as I got home, I'm doing physical therapy. You know how painful it is?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I don't care. So I got on it real quick. And so after doing that, having this agreement with my leg, all the other things, like my ribs and all that stuff kind of fell into place immediately. Much better than I anticipated. My lungs were like plastic suitcases for all the goop and things to kind of come out of it, blood and all this, like, stuff. It's so weird. And it was quite a hot mess.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But as the leg, that was really quite the issue because it was the physical therapy part of it. And that's where I focused all my energy. And then the rest of the body just kind of fell into place. It's like I focused on one bad dog that was pooping on my pillow or something, right? I'll just focus on the leg. And then it just, I just, pain became just something that I can manage.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Because I know my body sends signals to my brain, but it doesn't mean I have to receive it the same way. What's your advice to somebody who's currently dealing with pain? You know, I'm not going to say you have to yell at the thing. I think getting an understanding of it, I think there are other ways.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know, I think modern medicine is fantastic for the short term, but for long term and chronic pain, I think there's got to be other ways. I deal with it all the time, but I certainly don't take pills. I do injections of peptides, amino acids, vitamins, maybe some natural anti-inflammatories, things like that. I think everybody's got to deal with inflammation.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I think there's a lot of great science that's coming out. I get a lot of access to people that I've been dealing with for a long time and also been doing it for a long time. But none of that matters. What matters is what your body says. I listen to my body. My body tells me what it needs. And I listen to it. I pay attention. And I also tell it to fuck off. Like, no joke. It's a part of me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know, I don't really know what's interesting. I can tell you why it's interesting to me. When you know why it's interesting to me is that I'm not fucking dead. That's why it's really cool, man. I don't know for anybody else. They're still alive. They're all doing great. For me, I'm happy just to kind of keep moving through my days and getting better. And that's really exciting to me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It is what I am. But it is just my spirit living in this vessel. So I'm going to take care of it the best I can. So I'm going to listen to it. And it's going to listen to me. And it does. And that agreement I have with my body gets me through every day.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It starts to scream at me a bit.
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Yeah, it gets a little louder or it's actually not even that. It's more, it's repetitive in nature. Not just something like, it's not just an afternoon or a stiff morning. It's just a fleeting. It's just like, oh, this has been a week of this repetitive thing. I'm like, all right, I got to help my body out here. I'm not doing something right. I'm doing something wrong.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm putting something in my body or I'm not. It's something else, right? The body, like if you have an injury, usually some other part of your body overcompensates and that kind of stuff. So you have to really kind of
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
See, singular to any one of those, it's way worse than getting ran over by the snowcat. I would disagree. Yeah, there's only one thing, and it's, I was tested to my limits, to my death.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
That makes me feel quite alive.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
so nothing else can i don't pop both my achilles tendons right now like yeah whatever i'll limp out of here or just pull a waddle right because the worst thing that's happened to you is the worst thing that's happened to you it's like all right this is gonna be a terrible year yeah i didn't know that already but you know we'll reattach they're probably doing six months now they got they're in roger's machine they can do like yep yep yep you know but my point being uh
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
That's interesting. I think, yeah, especially for you talk about, you know, the Achilles tendon, because it is such a long ongoing thing. And then 12 months recovery, man, it's a real injury. It's a real damn injury, dude. It's and it's like no joke. You can break any bone and you're done in a month.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And people aren't really that conscious of it because usually you're just playing sports or you're just getting out of bed and it can pop, right? It can happen anywhere. Usually you're doing something kind of athletic, just playing pickleball.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Either way, usually it's not a sexy way to have such a gnarly injury. But anyway, so people aren't caring. People care a lot about my injuries because they're very aware of what happened. Like, oh, yeah, you're playing cricket, you know, whatever, that kind of made me make fun of you for it. But there is a real loneliness in that. So I gamify recovery. I gamify my pain.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
No, no, no. I mean, it's, well, there's a real honest answer that comes behind it, right? Whether they're asking or not, you know, you get a real honest answer. And sometimes it's in the inopportune times. I remember doing a podcast, but it was over Zoom, right? And The technical issues that were happening to set it up and the thing and what mic to use and how to use this. I'm not the tech guy.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I was getting very frustrated and I was getting probably pretty hangry. And like the beginning of this podcast was probably pretty awful. I was quite a cunt. But they ask you, look, I'm sorry. I'm just going to work through this and the thing. I'm not good with tech. And I just... I just have this real, realist, honest way to kind of live. So I'm not sick in the long way to answer this.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I gamify that loneliness, meaning I set goals. Daily goals was always as long as I'm better than I was the day before.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
and i don't it doesn't have to be a high standard it's like i move my elbow an inch more than i can move it the day before victory right so at least it's progress it's this now the setbacks are fewer because you don't set such a crazy high goal i'm going to start i'm going to run a 4540 at the end of the year you know come on then you're going to set yourself up for disappointment
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But so to gamify things and give myself confidence and self-confidence in my loneliness is like getting better. I always push myself. Even after the PT leaves, I'm doing stuff on my own. It's a 24-hour job. It's a 24-hour job. As long as I get my good sleep, then the rest of it's like, what am I putting in my body and how do I get better every day? And then I hit higher goals.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I find ways to heal my family in me getting better. That helped immensely. I can remove myself out of the equation and my pain and my recovery because I'm getting better to heal my family. If I get better, my family gets better. I'm not getting better even for me. That was a huge perspective that I had as soon as I woke up from the coma. I apologized that I was in the accident.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I said I was sorry. And I promised my daughter, if you wait for me, I'll get better. It was like I relieved myself of the duties of me wanting to get better for me. I was getting better for them to heal them because I hurt them. It was easy. It was a one-way road of recovery. There's no other direction to go. I have to heal my family.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, it's like, ah.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, well, I think it's something in the, I think it's within the limitations of, In a perspective, it seems like it's the limitations of a human experience, right? But it's also an act of love. I mean, the fuel behind that is all love. So in a spiritual form, that is just what, you know, we are to be anyway. In the human form, it's us protecting ourselves.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Like the body's trying to protect itself, right? And, you know, we try to protect each other. We're social creatures. We're a thing. Ultimately, people are good beings. We're just not in situations for us to be good to each other, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And it's also still my body. I'm not going to hobble around this spinning rock forever. For the next hundred years. Because now I'm titanium, man. Get out of here.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I always focused on the things that were better. Now, not every day all of me was better, but some part of me was getting better, and that's all I cared about. Just sitting up was like a giant milestone for me. Not peeing in a jar. That was a great victory for me to go bathroom, right? Just whatever it was, I kept things really simple. And I made it okay. That's an amazing thing.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So, because there are days that aren't great. And there's a lot of people that might get stuck in a rut of... You don't even have to be in recovery. I mean, you can just have a bad day and just like... But your brain... right? It's not, you can't let it wallow in that. Just get up off the couch, move, go move your body oxygen through your system.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It'll help you navigate something just to make a different choice. And it'd been easy for me to like, not have any positive thoughts about things, man. There's, there's not a lot of help or, or hope to grab onto. So I just built the things that I could grab onto. Like I said, I kind of gamified things. And
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I guess I was just filled with such gratitude, but I wasn't going to ever have a low bar set, right? There's that duality of it. I wasn't going to like, oh, as long as I can just kind of walk. No, no. They said if I walked again, if I did, I'd walk funny. They said, you're never going to run again. I said, I wish you would have told me that. I heard it from my family later on.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I would have been running faster earlier just at that challenge. I'm also that guy. That fuck you energy? Yeah, yeah. Or to challenge me because I know what I can do and I know what I can't do. And I know my limitations. And sometimes I'll try to – I always try to exceed what I can or can't do. You have to go to such extremes of your obsessions to really grow. Right.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. And it's been that way for a minute. But now there's sort of a sort of byproduct of this change, this shift from, you know, being famous for X, Y, Z, whatever it is for people. Yeah. And then now it kind of wipes away, at least temporarily, that it's more about the man that I am where I've overcome some obstacles. Yeah. And not that I have a fake bow and arrow in a movie.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Like what cold plunges do for the body and even extreme hot does to the nerve endings in your body. Use a lot of heat, vibration for pain. Talking about pain. Heat, high heat, high vibrations, great for pain.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Power plate stuff because that gets really, really intense vibration. That's great to just numb the nerve endings. A really hot bath.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah. Yeah. And it just, it just confuses all the nerve endings seemingly. And I don't feel it. It's like, it's why I got off the pain medication like that.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm glad I had it. I'm glad it was there. It was necessary. I mean, God damn was it necessary. I think it was like when I got home, switching from epidurals and IVs and all this stuff of writing intravenously, you know, to deal with your pain management. And then going on just now, just taking pills, taking Oxycontin.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know, you get behind on that, you're kind of screwed because then you realize, oh, it's going to take a minute to get through your system.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. You've got to stay ahead of it. Otherwise, you get behind, oh, man, it's going to be a bad day or so. Yeah, it was. So that happened once, maybe twice. But then it was like maybe four weeks in when I was home. And at a night terror, my mouth is broken, everything, so many breaks in my face and my head and my teeth don't align.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So at a night terror and then your teeth don't align, it's easy to crack a tooth. And I cracked a tooth. Then I felt pain. I'm like, wait, I'm on Oxycontin and this is painful. Breaking through. Yeah, it was breaking through. So I'm like, well, then what do I need that Oxycontin for and the Gabby Penton? Like, I'm out of here. So I went emergency extraction, put in a post, take the thing.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm crying just because I'm so happy that my pregnant dentist had come in and do this for me. And I got home and I said, I'm getting off. I'm not taking this stuff. I took it for the next day for the tooth surgery. And then when that felt good, I just said, I'm cold turkeying this stuff.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then I cried for like three and a half days straight and shivered and cold sweats and the whole thing coming off the pain meds. It was way worse than the accident. Why? Because how bad coming off that stuff is. It was just like uncontrollable crocodile tears coming
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
so emotionally just out of control crying and it wasn't sad i was just crying i was doing pt just doing his band and stuff just sobbing i just couldn't stop dysregulating and you know i was shivering i was so cold i got all these electric blankets on me like i was coming off heroin or something it's actually because i guess what it is or something right oxycontin anyway
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
After the three and a half days, I talked to the pain management guy, the doctor, and he's like, yeah, you can't do that, dude. No one does that. You need two weeks at least to kind of wean off of it. Both Gabby Petten as well. All your nerve endings are like feeling everything right now. I'm like, yeah, I know. I'm freezing. I'm shivering. I'm crying. Well, it's okay if you do a little bit.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm done with it now, so I'm just going to stay off of it. Thank God. I got to shake it. But wow, what a terrible thing to be hooked on. Wow. I mean, if you need that, because then your body gets numb to that kind of stuff anyway, then you need more of it, which is the terrible thing to it. So it's like you need to get the fuck off that stuff as soon as possible is my recommendation.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Find other ways. And high heat, high vibrations do tremendous things to your nerve endings to mitigate your pain. And it allowed me to sleep. That's why I love to take a super, super hot bath as much as I could stand. And then vibrations, like the parts that were really kind of just giving me some achy, achy sort of feeling. Were you sitting on a power plate?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
No, I mean, I was too fragile at that time. I do it now. But I did like they have a roller that's a vibrating roller. Okay. Super intense. Just rests. I put it under both my knees or both my ankles. Ankles and knees. Oop, night-night, going to bed.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know, it's something much more real and something really quite tender and beautiful. I get these amazing exchanges on the street instead of like the rude sort of in the middle of spaghetti dinner, you know, with my daughter taking selfies that I owe them apparently. It's now like, well, glad you're here. Yeah.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
amazing well if you have any ankle or knee issues as long as it's not breaks as long as if you're healing from breaking do it but um great for for nerve endings tendons to get blood flow circulation for your things that are hard to get blood flow through like tendons you know right um pretty tough all the cartilage areas um all our joints you know are all going to fail us anyway but i just got
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Every joint screwed early on.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, I became obsessed. I had to become obsessed at recovery. It was my main focus. And it was awesome because my life was freed from any other obligations, even parenting.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
sadly so i have to get this so then i can go back to being a parent so i can go back right so i became obsessed at it's like i said it was 24 hours a day that's all i focused on that's all my brain energy went to that's all my thoughts went to were all recovery healing getting better even dreaming of my bones growing over this metal pipe that they all this stuff it was just all that was i was all in with every part of my body even in my damn dreams about recovering so the obsession
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then it got to a place maybe just a few weeks later. I didn't have the plastic suitcases for my lungs. And then I'm sitting up in a thing and I'm in a wheelchair and I'm moving around. And it's like I'm mobile. I'm getting more blood flow in. Now it's just getting better faster. And now it's maybe 16 hours a day of obsession. And then reduced to 12. And it kept getting less by the summertime.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's eight hours a day. I have to start my morning routine and all the things and just keep going, keep going. And then what my body allowed me to do, that was just sort of like, Not recovery stuff. I would do life stuff that was like recovery stuff. I'd go walk in the sand. Great for your ankles and stability and my hips and knees and all that stuff.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But at least I'm outside in the sunshine at Lake Tahoe, breathing in the air, getting my feet cold. That's the biggest cold plunge in the world. That thing is freezing. And just go in there and that's awesome. So I can do that. So now I'm just doing eight hours and I reduce it to maybe four hours by the time I started going back to work.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'd have to commit to four hours a day, hyperbaric chamber, put O2 throughout my body. Red light therapy was huge. I still do these to this day. And all that, I mean, between the high heat stuff and the vibration, the red light infrared beds and hyperbaric chamber, I'll do this for the rest of my life.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, thymus and BPC 1 by 7, MOTC.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. And there's TB500. There's a long, long list of stuff. I had to do hormone replacement stuff because my testosterone was at 200. I had to get that up because I was going to get some energy. So then I'd get in the gym instead of falling asleep in the gym.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
you fought through something really amazing or whatever that's like really thoughtful, amazing, almost like sort of fortune cookie lines of like just beautiful sentiments that are connective and not like, I deserve a selfie. It's really flipped on its head. It's quite beautiful.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
um so that helped getting regulating that because again i'm 54 and at that time you know i didn't no one tells you how to get old but i guess my testosterone was super low and uh that affects a lot of things in your body especially your energy. So yeah. And there's a whole list of different peptides and I rotate them in and out. It's not like I do them all the time.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I just kind of rotate, just like supplements. I do the same thing with supplements. I rotate them in and out of my life. I'll go for a stretch of two months or three months on three months off or that kind of thing, you know, just to get your body to regulate, challenge it, let it try to produce its own HGH, its own testosterone, all those types of things. Yeah.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Really, really great to work on your body from a cellular level out. You use any NAD? Yeah, yeah, I do that every day. Wow. Every day.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, SubQ and also IM. And I don't do it through the IV because it just takes too long to go through that suck, you know?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's really interesting. Yeah, yeah. I also feel like the... light version of it can do your stomach. Like, oh, gosh. But it's only for 10 seconds.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, because I don't know many things that you put in your body that immediately make you feel good. Like an IV, that's an instant thing. You're getting hydrated pretty instantaneously. You're getting great vitamins. You can smell the vitamins, vitamin C. When they do that push. Yeah. So that you feel pretty instantly and you feel good. Not much else I can think that I've done.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I do everything. Everything. maybe a hot bath. And that's only because you get out of it and you're like, okay, I'm not in pain. Like a cold plunge. And then when they say like, oh yeah, dude, you feel so good getting out. Yeah. You feel good getting out of that because you're not dying anymore. That's why it feels good. It doesn't feel good ever. Does it feel good? No, it feels like hell.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So by getting out, you're just not dying anymore. Your body's screaming, I'm dying, I'm dying. Cold proteins release, cold shock proteins, right? We all know this, they do it. I don't do a lot of cold plunges because I think you have to kind of, I do those when needed. I do, there's a crowd chambers, you know, I'd rather do that. Crowd chamber, I felt good. being a little bit more effective.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You like the hyperbaric? Hyperbaric, I love. I love it because it does take a little bit more time, but I can do my, yeah, I can do emails, a cup of coffee, because I can sit in a chair just like this and not just sit there and be like, I'm in some treatment. I'm like, forget it. I would never do it. But I'll just biostack in there. I'll do red light mask in there.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'll do whatever I can to do multiple things. I do many things all throughout the day, you know. How is it... Again, I would have these things on right now.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. And that's what makes this kind of exchange so great. I don't know. I have no idea what I'm going to talk about or have anything really to say, except I can have a conversation about real things. And if you have certain things, you know, you write down, like, I think this is interesting, or let's talk about this. Um, I can do that because I, all I have to do is be me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
The only skin that broke was on the back of my head, and that's where all the blood was gushing. Because when it got ran over, it went to my cheekbone pressure and the back of my skull here. That was where the rollover pressure went. So that's why I broke this cheekbone and it floating around. It broke my orbital and then my jaw. So this and then my jaw broke in three places.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then the crack here. All the other marks on my body are scars from the surgeries to put the metal in. So it was more the insides of my body that were crushed. And luckily, one of my ribs poked my liver because it had broken two spots. So there's a couple gaps. There was like 14 breaks and only six ribs. So several pieces of my ribcage were just gone.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, just oozing around. So what was I talking about? I can't remember.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. Once the swelling went down, they can see where the real damage is really just to my jaw because it's hard to fix your jaw, apparently. And also my teeth got pushed in, the molars, so nothing sits right.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I think we'll be risk losing the teeth. Yeah, I'm going to lose them all anyway from all that trauma. Hold on to them. I'm going to hang on to them while I can. And I still got a decent smile. Everything's fine. It's just when I bite down, it's like chewing, eating is just not that enjoyable.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm only careful with foods I eat, just what I want to put in my body. And I'm not really a stickler about things. I'm just conscious about what it is. I like eating steak. I don't try to chew on stuff too much. That gum will never chew gum.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm interested in how... So anyway, the swelling with your eye, how does that go back in? There was so many ways that I should have an eye patch or a glass eye or something at this point, right? Because the orbital nerve didn't get pinched in the crack. And your nostril tissue, no damage to essentially anything behind the eye or any of the nerves, right? It's a miracle.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's a miracle. Essentially, it's just like moving it back in and duct taping it and just swelling went down and it started operating again. Yeah, it was crazy. Yeah, so I think, I mean, there's, I don't know, there's a little unevenness with it. I don't care. My face is my face. I still look the same, I guess, for the most part. And there's no like plastic surgery or anything that had to happen.
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um it was all internal like they put in the plates in my eye and my my cheekbone He said, we don't have to do it, but because your face is, you know, you're living, we're afraid maybe you'll lose your cheekbone if we don't support it with a metal plate. And they just went inside my mouth and cut open all under the skin and put these plates in.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know, so then, and I had screws in my skull and then my jaw to kind of rubber band it to heal the jaw. And then that was it. And then that was it. It's pretty harrowing how they get these screws out though. They just like get a screwdriver from Home Depot and they just rip them out.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And that's, that's the coolest thing to be, but I don't typically get to do that because I'm out. Like you're saying, is it some other sort of kind of like when your life's planned out every 10 minutes and you know, you get a bathroom break and I can, I can be mean, go to the bathroom breaks are scheduled. You're kidding.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
How would I ever be a victim?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I wasn't even victimized. How could I be a victim?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm telling you my perspective. That's how. If ever I have been victimized, I'd still never be a victim. Certainly doesn't even apply to this incident. I made the choice. I don't regret my choice. I'm only saddened that I put so much terror in my family's life. My nephew cannot unsee the things I did not see.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
He saw the blood gushing, holding my arm, squatting to hold it in a certain position for 45 minutes, my eyeball out, legs twisted up. Just calm, cool, collected, partial shock. But he can't unsee it. And along the long list of all the other things that have happened transpired because of it. So there's no, there's no, um, it's, it's always my perspective and that's what I have control of.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And there's, it's, I, I'm, I refuse to be haunted. I refuse to hobble around. I refuse to, and it's not going to happen. My will will not let it happen. But I, what is it? I, I, it's not going to happen. Like if I believe I can fly and sprout a propeller out my ass, trust me, propeller's about to come out and I'm going to propel around this room.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I believe it's physically impossible, so I don't believe it. But that will, the reality is you build it. You can build your own reality. If you don't, you can become victimized or a victim. But you have to be sort of active in your believing and your doing and your heart and your will. Your will is a thing. It's your life force. So... And it started with not wanting to hurt my family, you know.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Just hold it in press tours and things like that. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty, it's pretty crazy, but you know, Do the things you love, man. That's it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I wouldn't want to have been on their side, looking at me in the bed or hearing about it. My mom heard about it on the phone call. How about that phone call? Had a 13-hour drive to get to my hospital bed in the snow and the ice is brutal. So, yeah, there is no me in any of this, man, except getting better version of me. You know, there's no being victimized or victim mentality in it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's impossible. It's impossible. It's just a square peg round hole. It doesn't fit here. It doesn't apply. At least I make it not apply, if it does.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It's a lot better because there's less obstacles. And that's where the white noise is gone. The things that I gave credence to or gave great value to are wiped away. What like? Everything outside the basic things that I want in my life. Time, shared experiences with people I love. Laughter. When I oversimplify a simple life.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Again, a very complicated, busy life I have, but I keep the white noise out. I don't listen to the, it's like the idea of like reading the comments or reading your reviews or like I never did really anyway, but a version of that, you know, what that is for an individual. What it is for me is not giving so much energy to my career. I do.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Obviously, I mean, I was working a year after the incident and I'm on second season, fourth season right now. But I give energy to it, right? But maybe how much energy? Maybe I'm more married to central part of my life is my health and wellness. Everything else falls into place. I'm filming in Pittsburgh right now to get better. And then I happen to be filming Mayor of Kingstown season four.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
but I'm there to get better. My garage is filled with workout equipment, hyperbaric chamber, my red light, but all these things, my fridge, I brought a sack with my peptides and things like I'm committed to my health and my wellness. It is a central part of my being and it has to be. And I like it and I love it and I want it to be.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So that simplicity, like it doesn't make, then I don't get busy doing a bunch of other dumb stuff, you know, whatever, like what I would normally might do. And it's way better because life is much simpler. And that's the only thing that's really changed. It's just like I just don't give so much energy and give myself away to just things that I don't want anyway. You know?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I already have everything I want in my life anyway. You know, especially as like... I have many careers, and I do a lot of things. And so I always had that drive to do stuff, right? As an independent, sort of be my own boss and go do things, right? And you know what that's like. I think any athlete knows what that's like. I think any businessman knows what that's like.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But when do you stop and really get to enjoy it? When work becomes the central part of your life, but then you don't get to reap the benefits of all the hard work, then what the fuck is the point? So now I'm doing the point. I'm working hard still, but I start with living the life first. Doing a life first that I want to live. And then... You know, prioritizing what, right? I reprioritize it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I think it's the best way to say it. It's like, I just put the priorities of me and my health that I didn't do before. I might wash my face once a week, you know, go to the gym, brush my teeth. But like now I do like complete opposite of that. And I do so many things to, uh, for my health and my wellness from the cellular level on out, you know, and it feels good, dude. Oh my God. It feels amazing.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then I'm so much better with everybody else. I can sit here in this room and not be in any pain. I can be in a good mood with you. I can do this all day long, you know?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. This would be a chore. This would be work. This would be time away from my daughter. I'd be here with a chip on my shoulder. I should be with my daughter right now. No, she's with me all the time right now. I have her in my pocket. I give her little peanuts down there once in a while. You know what I mean? Spirit's just with me all the time. So I have that perspective.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm not in angst of not being with my family or loved ones. Pretty amazing sort of perspective to have. And I try to hold on to those. It's a much lighter, more loving place and space to be.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah. I don't know what the future holds to be honest with you, brother. Um, the, the giant shift was, which is, it's hard to say, you know, cause it, cause it's to me. So it's like, it's like an airplane, right? And you lose, use, um, pressure in the, in the, in the cabin, right? And the things come down, you're supposed to put it on yourself.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Then your kid, well, every parent's going to be like, no, you put it on your kid first. That's been me, you know, raising my daughter. I'm always going to look after and do the best for my daughter. And just like we brought up earlier about how we like to take care, it's easier to take care of everybody else instead of yourself. And it's such like such a martyrdom kind of thing.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It just, it doesn't really help us. But if we fill our own water first, right, fill us first, and then we can serve others better. Mm-hmm.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
it's so i have to work that every day i work that every day because my instinct is to always do something for somebody else first right so i the practice is that like i told you like the idea of like oh wait i went to pittsburgh to film mary kingston no i didn't i went there to go work with the great pt there they got a great medics there and do all my health and wellness and then i get to go back on set and create jobs and have a lot of good time on the show like all that it's secondary
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It is. It really is, man. I mean, I highly recommend it, at least if the outcome is my outcome. Yep. I don't recommend it, right? It's excruciating. But the amount of gifts that came from such a thing, I think, are... I guess to me, I mean, it's all my life is filled with gratitude and love and truth and pure joy. It's just really clear, like all the white noise is gone.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
but it's just the way I think about it. You could look at it like, yeah, I went there to, of course I went to go film there. Otherwise it wouldn't be in Pittsburgh, but no, I'm going there. Cause I, you know what I mean? I take control of like it. So I don't feel like I'm victimized by my job. Like my job is removing me from my health and wellness. No, I can't do that. Same with anything.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So I think starting with taking care of myself, cause I, again, cause I have to, again, I wouldn't do this if it didn't get ran over. If I didn't fucking die, sadly, my health and mental health and spiritual health would be depleted no matter how much I tried. So thank God I got crushed. Because now I take care of myself very well, and I take care of others even more so.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, yeah. I mean, you know, you see different countries where capitalism isn't like the forefront of your existence. Some monetary things, some status, some jobs, some cars, some object, right? Where it's more, you know, you go to Japan and it's more sort of Buddhist sort of thinking and there's capitalism there for sure.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But you go to Italy, there's capitalism there too, but there's also a love of life.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, exactly. There's wine and when they close their shop at two, you go take a nap. Or there's just, you know, there's a balance that can happen. America doesn't. America has such a strong sort of sense of capitalism. And it's also, you know, a strong country for that very same reason. And industry is one thing. But then I think we lose sight of, you know, the American dream is it can shift.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It can shift. We don't have to. It's interesting time, this time of information that we have. We get so connected to everyone on the planet with all this information. And, you know, I found, you know, not disenchantment with...
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
the American dream that maybe I knew in the 80s, which is I'd go to college, I'd get a thing, maybe get a Porsche, whatever the heck it was as a young, dumb boy in the 80s. It certainly shifted as I matured as a man and now, you know, gotten older, but I, like, I have no regrets. And that came from dying and being in the hospital.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I said, I wrote two goodbye notes, one to my family, one to my daughter. I had no regrets. And I was so ready to go again. Because I was on machines and I'm like, oh, man, I think they're going to pull the plug on me at this point. But, you know, it's nice to get that confirmation that you don't have regrets. So I'm going to keep going with that idea and keep living.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm going to be doing something right. So I'll continue with... The ways I was thinking, because that confirmation was just a great, great gift to receive, along with no bad days, you know. I'm not going to get any bad days the rest of my life. That's pretty awesome. Why? Because I want to live a long time. Because I know what a bad day feels like. I can have maybe a bad moment.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I can find frustration. You'd be hard-pressed to get any rage out of me. Was that something that you had before? No. I wasn't a ragey guy then. Mm-hmm. I mean, neither. But just like, you know, just the idea of like, you know, when you see, you have to know the limits, right? And then reach beyond the limits, test it beyond my limits.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And dying and coming back, it's like, all right, there's a different sort of, oh. Also, I got to see behind the curtains. You know, I know what happens. And like, it's super exciting, wonderfully peaceful, super electric, magnificent. It's everything. There's no time, place, or space. It's like all that, you know, it's like, ah, that's just a knowingness just in the back of my mind.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And for someone to have that in their life, do you have to die to do it? No. It's part of the reason why I wrote the book. There's a lot of things I did learn. And maybe other people can't. I know there's a lot of people that struggle. I got some life hacks to help you with struggle and pain and pain management, all those type of things.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Wow, that's amazing. And there's a long list of amazing gifts that kind of came with that. But going from like, oh, capitalism, that's the spinning rock that we're on. And again, they keep zooming out. That's where I start. Then I can get back in. Once I find I'm too microed into something, like my blinders are on and information is limited, I'm like, what am I doing here?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm giving too much credence to something that has no value. And that's what I did a lot. And I think that's what a lot of us do all the time. Because we have the freedom, the luxury of where we are in our lives to pay a lot of attention to stuff that doesn't have value. You know, how many colors of toenail polish are there, for God's sakes, or whatever, the minutia of what are we doing here?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So let me zoom out. Let me zoom out a little bit. Let me aggregate what actually matters here. And then go back in, re-engage into conversation, re-engage into my life, re-engage into, you know, whatever I was doing before. Because we can get a little caught up.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
We can get caught up. I feel like there's a ticking clock and the things that pressure and all these things we either put on ourselves or society can put on us. And I relieve myself of all those duties.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, I think that'll take time. I think I'm... I can swallow the idea. Um... I didn't think I was going to go back to work. I had to live life in reality, not in fiction. It's hard for me to go back. But it meant a lot. I was around a lot of love, so then that felt good. What was the first day back on set like? Um... I mean, it was very difficult. All of it was very, energy levels were very low.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I had like a couple good hours where I was awake enough to perform. As a character, I knew very well. And so that part was easy enough. I had to do a stunt as well. Um, little challenging, but work through it. But all the working through with stunt guys and even the director all set up the cameras, it was all just acts of love. So that, that was what felt great.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Even as a famous person, there is some like probably I think could be some envious things too, like you said, from it. Because there is a lot of great things that came from such a horrific experience. But I'd, again, I'd do it again in two seconds for the right reason. I'd probably not jump back on that machine this time.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Everyone was, was happy that I was, was, was back. And, but, um, so yeah, I took it as it felt, it felt very loving and a very loving set and an amazing group of people. So that's why I'm back again.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And it's pretty awesome. And I think it's just, to me, it's also to make a statement. I was tired of, you know, just doing recovery. I got recovery down to eight hours at that point a day. And I had to reduce it to about four hours to start working. But I said, I think I'm ready. I think it's time. I got to get back on the world. I can't just be. You know, some like gym rat, some recovery rat.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Like a gym rat would be like a recovery rat. I mean, that's all I'm doing. I'm obsessing on recovery. I got to do something else. I got to participate in life.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm not really sick of people asking how I am because I just really do tell them. And if they do care about, you know, if it's about the recovery or if it's about just sort of my health or even mental health, you know, I don't care how they intend it. I just sort of explain kind of how I am in a really truthful, honest way. It's quite beautiful. Have you always been like that?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Right. Well, that's also, yeah, becomes kind of futile at that point, right? Well, what do I get to set my goals to do? You know, I think I was ready. I was definitely very social all throughout that, you know, so I was getting that, I was getting fed that part. But yeah, just kind of get it back out in the world. And the world was really wonderful to me, you know, instantly with the set.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then even people I met out about, you know, I got wonderful treatment by people wherever I went. And wow, that love that I would get. just further, just filled up my gas tank to get better, get stronger, do better, be better. And, but it all starts with me. I'm not doing it for anybody, right? I'm filled with things I need to do for myself. And there's zero selfish bone in my body.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know what I mean? And I always had that. And I don't know if you too, but, or if it's just a general thing, it feels selfish to take care of yourself. So I need to take care of everybody else, right? I don't know if that's, but it certainly doesn't, it doesn't even come across. I never, there's not a selfish bone in my body and I know it no matter what, how much time I spend on myself.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know what I mean?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, I know, man. You need people around. You need a support system, emotionally support you. Even if they're just there in the background, you hate them. You hate hearing their voices in the other room as they're playing games. And my family was doing that. I didn't resent that. I would just love hearing their voice there.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
The rumblings in the other room as I was in there with rubber bands and stuff and doing my thing. They'd be happy if I wheeled out and joined them. But I had, there's always love and support. You know, you gotta have, you need a community almost, you know? Um, maybe that, maybe that's why they had, they have like, you know, treatment centers.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
There's lots of other people you go into struggles, you know, but you know, you're not alone, right? You have to believe that you're not alone and you can't do anything all by yourself. And, um, that kept pushing me to keep going. Cause I, I had a lot of help and that help I interpreted as love. And that was just all the few I needed. So I would say find support.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I mean, if you're, gosh, if you're a person alone in a hospital, you know, wow, you got nurses there. You got a team there that's trying to help you, you know, help them help you, help your body help you. You're not alone because you have your body.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
create as a separate thing it's a new girlfriend or new boyfriend whoever you want it new dog it's a new separate entity that you get to work with separate your body from yourself from your from your mind then you can work together to get better because they work together wonderfully if right that's a great dialogue to have that's that was very clutch for me um in my loneliness of it but it's very very effective for for uh neural pathways and um
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Make new pathways for yourself.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Or to treat it with respect. Like I'm saying it's a bad dog. I think it's a bad analogy. But it's like, you know, it's just like it's a partner. But you are not helping me out here. So you got to listen to me. I'll listen to you if you listen to me. But treat it as a respect. It's still I respect my body. but I'll tell it to fuck off once in a while, you know?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And it's like, ah, I gotcha, I gotcha, I gotcha. But you know, I give my body a personality. Like it's a, you know what I mean? It's a, I see it, I see it in my head. And then we, we have this relationship. Now it's just like, it was almost unconscious thing that happens. And nothing, nothing, I get no flare backs or setbacks or anything. I mean, the worst. And also I never used the word even pain.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, from this big giant snow blade and just going towards him. And he was at the truck that was perpendicular and just going to crush him. Mm-hmm.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'll use discomfort. I'll use inflammation, stiffness. It's the worst thing I can ever say about my body.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I don't know what pain is. That ain't pain. Inflammation, stiffness, walking, whatever. My back's all out of whack and out of control and whatever. It's hard for me to get up and down sometimes. But it's just all temporary. It's temporary. You move through that. It's a bad afternoon. It's a rough morning. Whatever. Who cares? You move through it. It's temporary. It's all temporary anyway, isn't it?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Your time on this planet is temporary. So make it the best you can. Work through the obstacles as best you can, right? We're all going to get obstacles no matter how rich you are, how poor you are, how strong you are or whatever. We're all going to have problems and obstacles. How good you are getting over those and through those, how fast and efficient you are with those.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You're going to have more joy in your life. It leaves a lot more room for joy and laughter and other things you really want.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You know... it removed it initially itself from, you became part of something so collective. It's right. It's such a collective type of narrative. The movies I was doing before were pretty more like I was a lead of a movie. And the story is told through my character. This is such an ensemble sort of piece. So you had to rely upon so many things and so many things that didn't even exist.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Because it knocked me off. Yeah, it knocked me off, and it hit the wrong button. It knocked me off, and I went forward on him. I'm off on the machine. Some of the machine's running on its own now.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And it's fantasy and, you know, there's a green screen and like people are dressed in checkerboarded outfits and, you know, You know, so this fantasy world. And then there's something that became really powerful in knowing that how much it meant to kids, right? How like, you know, the wide eyedness of hope with kids, like, I don't know, it's such a great sort of conduit to, to kids.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And I love kids. I'm the oldest of seven and it's sort of my birthright just to, you know, to have them or to be with them. It's why I have a, you know, renovations foundation. I just, I mean, to give hope and opportunities to kids is really, really important to me. So like it started off there, uh, And we're dressing in costume. It looked ridiculous. At first, we're all dressed.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
There's Hemsworth. You look a lot like a Hemsworth. And he put him in. He's got a wig. But he's got like a latte. He's in a store car. He's got this foam hammer or rubber hammer and this bow and arrow. And we're all trading around. or props. I think we're at some Halloween.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Cause we're, we're all figuring it out. Isn't that the beginning, right? And the first Avengers, we all kind of took it, figuring out each other and then each other's characters and costumes. And, uh, and then it's just grown into, you know, a family, you know, a personal family. We have our own private sort of chat and, uh,
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
They've all gone through marriage and divorces and kids and all these things happen over these last 13 years we've been together. And it's also shared on a stage that's almost culturally significant. Sort of 22 giant films to make the last one that all led to Endgame, right? It's quite a significant event.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
That's never happened. So, yeah. Yeah, so I probably wouldn't jump back on the machines. Or maybe I would, you know. You don't get the opportunity to think and reflect back on what you do. You know, you just do it or don't. And it'd rather be me than my nephew. You know what I mean? I don't want to deal with, like, the haunting images on New Year's Day of my nephew split in half, you know.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
thing to have happened over over the course of you know almost 12 13 14 years and it's awesome to be a part of that and i get to take away again like i said it's the great friendships lasting friendships we'll have matching tattoos that sort of signify our bond that and this extreme narrative crazy narrative of superheroes and a strange fantasy world brought us together and
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Now I have like really, really amazing, loving friends and I have great conduit to children to be able to help them. And, um, cause being famous before kind of sucked. It ripped away your sort of, uh, Well, I won't say it's totally sucked, but it takes away your privacy, all the things. You know, you don't get to do just normal things. I'm just a normal dude from – kid from Modesto, California.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I want to do normal shit. I just don't get to do. Fine. But I can do other things. Great. But, you know, having a voice to kids – because I took my daughter when Endgame came out. She was five years old, and I dropped her off at school for the first time.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
and she was in kindergarten, and then as I dropped her off in there, it was kind of nerve-wracking, I hear my name, Jeremy Renner, be called by some third grader. I'm like, why does this third grader know my first and last name? That's Jeremy Renner. They're not even saying Hawkeye. And I had like 30 kids come chasing me down with cell phones out.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm like, what do you do with cell phones, first of all? Anyway, so I take pictures with them all. I'm like, get back in, get back in your classrooms. And I went home, kind of freaked out that all these kids chasing me. I thought, oh, the cool thing that is now to have, I can use a celebrity, have a real voice and use it in a proper way. Use it for a good thing. So that forever changed my life.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And that's where the foundation came involved. And I can really make a difference for kids. It's usually foster youth and disadvantaged youth. But to put a smile on a kid's face is just the best feeling anyway. And hard to do if I was playing Jeffrey Dahmer, hard to do, probably couldn't do it if I was doing this role or doing that role or doing that role.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But because I did something that kids could watch, like my daughter never saw any of this stuff, but these kids were older, whatever. So anyway, I had such conduit to kids and that became such a beautiful payday for me.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Because the greatest payday for me doing anything in Marvel was my access to give love to kids, to inspire kids, to give them, especially these foster youth and disadvantaged youth, some opportunities and plant some seeds of hope for them.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Oh yeah. Yeah. We had, yeah, we had all that. We got all of us together just to do press. I had to get all the Avengers together. It's cause it got quite big at end game. Um, so that was like a big sort of high school reunion kind of feeling. Um, like, oh my God, I know he's, nobody's in costume this time.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Um, but I, yeah, the last day of filming, I, yeah, it was, it was a, it was a reshoot, I believe for, uh,
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
for scarlet and i um her death scene which is brutal um but i but i also did the hawkeye series so then that continued on kicks it on yeah yeah that kind of continued on and you know because i love to love to continue on but mainly continue on because um i like the character and i think it can do a lot for more with kids with it and i want to affect a lot of kids so
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I kind of try not to let my future get a hold of me. Because it did in the past. So I focus, the Renovations Foundation, I have a couple camps that I'm doing. It's grown quite significantly, which is great. A lot of support, a lot of community support. So I'm really focused on that outside of my mental health and physical health. The foundation is probably second in line as far as priority.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
That's a bigger scope of something. And all my family's involved in the foundation as well, which is so killer. It's given them, you know, real direction in life as well. My passion to help kids. So it's really easy. And my sister, you know, running it. And then work-wise, yeah, there's another movie coming out later this year I'm excited about. The Knives Out is the third one in that.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And then Mary Kingstown's continued on. People seem to really like that one. It does well for Paramount+. And I'll probably do one more season for sure, it seems, if people still like it, which I think to do is going to be a pretty killer season. But outside that, I'm building a house. I'm always building and designing and doing those things and trying not to get too busier than just that.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
That's a pretty booked year. I'm trying not to work anymore for the rest of the year so that I can go focus on the foundation and helping that grow and that sort of stuff. So those are the important things to me. And my family, of course. I can't wait to spend the summer with my daughter. She loves working with the foundation and helping the kids, and it's pretty cool.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Pretty cool to see her growth as an emotionally intelligent creature. She's a lovely, lovely human my daughter's become out to be, so very proud.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, thanks, man. I'm really happy. I'm really happy.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah. I'm glad it became a public thing. I'm glad. I mean, I never wanted to be because I woke up and there was like, you know, I was gone for a while. But by the time I woke up, it was like it was everywhere, right? And that was a private moment between me and my nephew with my family on my driveway. It's none of your damn business.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But I guess I just kind of leaned into it and they made it public. So then I shared a private experience with everybody and it was wonderful. That's where a lot of the narrative grew from me being a man or a brother or just a friend. I wasn't the actor anymore. I was just somebody that went through something. something they might be curious about or not, or just someone that's had a lot, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So that was, I'm really glad it became such a public thing. And I'm glad who me being very private, typically shared a lot of sort of milestones that I had through social media or through the press. The press is very like, whatever I said on social media, they just went out and printed everywhere. And I'm glad I created a lot of wonderful relationships with the public, with fans.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
That you can't just, I mean, I'm glad, I'm so glad for it. But I tried to do the Diane Sawyer thing and then say, okay, here's what happened. Now let's move on. Let me get back to it. No, no, no, no.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Oh, yeah, write an album. Yeah, all this stuff. So even with this book, it's just only going to be a chapter. It's not going to be, I'm letting this go for the rest of my life. I'm never going to let this go. It's just always going to be part of now my DNA. I mean, it is for me. And, you know, the importance of it would be maybe less in public, which would be good.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But it's something I can't just shove away anymore. It's just now become a central part of who I am. And I'm thankful for that.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I'm not going to do that again. I'm on the snowcat again, but, you know, I'm just, you know, I'm not going to let that thing haunt me. That's not happening.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, thanks, brother. Appreciate it.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, well, there's that. You just have to... Look, there's great things that come with being famous. It allows a lot of freedoms and a lot more choices for hopefully doing something you love to do. Hopefully you're not famous for being a serial killer or something, right? But in the world, if you're a famous football player or whatever the heck it is, you just have to sort of...
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
take take you know yeah that's going to be a feeling you're not going to be seen and witnessed but how and how they see you like i like to be i'm glad i'm seen as the at least they're picking out the right roles oh i love you in this i love you in the hurt locker loving the town everything they're not picking out something from you know back in 94 or something they're picking out the right ones i'm like good i'm glad you like me for those ones i'm happy about those movies too and yeah there's there's i don't take emptiness with it like i look at it from like
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
You have to sort of filter through. This is what they know you as. You know what I mean? And not, and then you go at the end of the day, there's too much of it. You're like, okay, look, I just need to, I can only have much tolerance to deal with. Okay. I'm still a human being. I can't, I'm just not this cardboard cutout of me. Right. That people know me as.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
So that's why, you know, I just, but I make decisions about that. Like I'll stay home more often or I have, unless I have a lot of tolerance in my tank of tolerance to like, so I can emotionally accept this. Right.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
and have my time and i'm touched and pulled and fingered and all sorts of weird things happen is that you gotta have enough tolerance to be fingered yeah to be figured now i don't get none yeah it's not so bad now i think people look at me or at least i feel they look at me with more fragility so they don't come in like throw me around or like smash me around a bit and pull me um
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
I've always been pretty direct, but I don't think I'd be as open and revealing. I'm much more open and revealing because of having to focus on myself so much.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It feels a little different now, which is great. I'm great. Okay. Happy about that.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, the overview. It was, it's a, well... it was hard enough to recount to write the book, you know, now I can write the trailer. Okay. So the settings in Lake Tahoe and, uh, it's new year's and we always have my family, uh, in new years and we were snowed in for a few days. Um, sort of Armageddon, Snowmageddon, we called it, type of thing. So we had no power, no electricity, nothing.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
And we were having a great time. But New Year's Day, it was going to be sunny, so I had to clear the driveway so we can get out and get some fresh air and that type of thing. And in the mountains, you know, you're at 8,000 feet elevation, you get a ton of snow. So we have like probably 10, 12 feet of snow. So that's like sand. You know, you got to move this stuff to kind of get it out.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
We're supposed to go skiing and all that stuff. Ends up, I'm taking the snowcat, which is used. A snowcat, if you don't know what it is, it's like a tank. It moves on the snow. It's about 16,000 pounds.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
wet and it's got a big shovel in the front of it and usually drags behind it you know stuff but it's like a tank and it turns like a tank or a skid steer um so it's pretty nimble and it floats on the snow because it has these steel tracks and they're wide so kind of like snowshoes if you will right so you don't sink in it but which is great for that but when we took it up to the end of the driveway which is about half mile long
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
We were taking cars that were stuck in the snow and things that were buried. You don't even know what's underneath all that snow. So you have to be very careful. So we're dragging all this stuff out of there. So we have a driveway so we have access to maybe we'll get food, supplies, something, anything, right? So we take this snowcat and drag all this stuff out.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
The final one was my truck and we got it to the top of the mountain where there was a plowed driveway. And where it's hard and we can actually can maneuver a bit better. And then my nephew takes the help of my nephew, Alex. And so we've done this a thousand times. I mean, it's just like mowing the lawn for us up there in the mountains.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
It was just a – we were on this – it's kind of a slope, and it was very icy, and we were sliding, and I didn't like that I was sliding towards him as he was trying to unhook a chain from this giant machine. And so I turned it around to try to talk to him, and – Couldn't see him, and I was sliding towards him, so I backed up.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, I was never good at that, man. I mean, a crowd of people, I'll get anxiety and, you know, I'd have to like medicate with like, you know, alcohol or something to sort of calm the nerves of being around so many people. Yeah. I always think if it's going to be a fire, so many people are going to die and people are going to get hurt. People are kind of terrible to each other in large crowds.
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
But again, you have to understand this machine, you have to see this machine to understand, but you have to step on these giant tracks of things that roll and move to get in and out of the machine anyway. There's no platform, there's no ladder, there's nothing. You just have to jump onto the giant metal tracks, and then you jump into the cab to start driving this thing, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Kind of a design flaw, if you ask me, because it's really unsteady. Anyway, it's not really a pedestrian type of vehicle. This is a commercial vehicle for ski slopes, right?
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#937 - Jeremy Renner - How To Overcome The Worst Pain Of Your Life
Yeah, exactly. And so it's just one of those things you have to step out to try to talk to them, to hear them, and all these things. At any rate... And there's a little toggle switch on the steering column. And that's what will move it forwards and backwards and put it in neutral. And I just keep going backwards just so I don't slide into him because I can't really see him.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I think it depends on what the role really requires. Most of them, you know, like... For instance, like the Bourne Legacy, that required the most physical. And so we had to train, like, all sorts of mixed martial arts and judo and just all the different things, man.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah. Well, I mean, it's just sort of that's kind of more in the decision making to do the job. You know, it's those are the easy ones with great directors and great writing and great characters. You can go in with a lot more cerebral, much more emotional context.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Characters and a lot more people to work with. And the other ones like from the Avengers and born and all those mission possibles, there's It's much more about the stunts and the physical stuff, which is fun. It's just a different muscle to use. And ideally, you're sort of switching back and forth, right? I think so. I mean, to keep it all interesting, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I'm on the third season of Mirror of Kingstown, right? I've never done that before. Repeated the same character. You've done an Ozark and you've done shit most of your life.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah. There's something interesting about it. There's a controlled chaos in television today especially. We shoot like a film, like a 10-hour film in a third of the time. It's crazy. We'll be right back.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah, he's great, man. I remember meeting with Ben on that. That's the first time I met him. I think my first meeting with him, sitting across, my first question to him was like, how are you going to direct this thing and act and star in it?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I mean, you're kind of an okay actor. I mean, how are you going to direct and act in this thing? Kind of fucking with him. He's a beast.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And he's so damn smart, man. Working with him was so, so great. And I really learned how – I mean, he gave me so much freedoms. I mean, he says, we're not going to do dialects. I've never been to Boston in my life. Yeah. Don't know anything about it, right? And he's like, we're not going to do any dialect coaches. I'm like, okay, great. Well, what the fuck am I going to do then?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I'm like, all right. He introduced me to a bunch of people that just got out of prison. Yeah. And a bunch of armed robbers and all this shit, bank robbers. So I just hung out with these guys in the bars for a couple weeks in town. And then –
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
i kind of found the character and found what i was going to do oh that's no way that's cool yeah yeah yeah so it was it was but if we didn't shoot in boston i would have been royally screwed yeah um yeah but thank god thank god we were there because all all of my access to what i needed was there and uh and then he just wanted to be so smart and uh he just kind of let me do my thing and uh
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
At first, he would start to mouth my lines as I was acting with him. And I'm like, I had to turn my head. I'm like, I'm going to smash this motherfucker. I'm going to smash this fucker. But it only pissed me off. They'd get me more in the mood with this guy. Ah. But it was like the very first scene we shot. And I don't think he did it after that anymore. But yeah, he was great, man.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
He really was so great. He was working his butt off, man. But I really was, I fell in love with him and have so much respect for him. He's just one of the smartest guys I know, actually.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah, and in theater. So I went in like with a criminology sort of idea I was going to study or computer science or some shit and then took an elective. And that's, I think I told you, I might have mentioned this to you, Jason, when we had dinner at Downey's, but I saw an elective
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
it when i was signing up for the courses and acting was one of them like i'll do this speech class i'll try this acting thing the only thing i that popped in my brain what I knew about acting was Michael J. Fox and fucking you, Jace, right? Because he shows these fucking family ties and all these goddamn things. It's the only thing I knew. It's what I watched, right? Growing up.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I mean, all those things. So I'm like, fuck, I'll try it. I'll try that thing. And went into it. This guy can do it. Yeah, this fucker can do it. I can do that shit. No, but that's just kind of what I watched with the kind of, I guess, you know, Related to. And then anyway, fell in love with theater and then started studying theater and psychology and just ran from there. Wow.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Which is what I'm saying. So I was like 18, 19. And yeah, just stuck with that.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Well, I mean, that just comes, I think that's the psychology sort of part of it. And you have to, I think there's a self-awareness and a confidence that, you know, that comes from doing stage. Yeah. You see a lot of, when people are stage actors, there's a, they hold it in their body a bit more. They're not just doing a scene or a thing. They kind of immerse in their body and spirit.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Because you have to do it for an hour and a half, two hours on stage, right? Yeah. really embody it longer than we do when we're doing television and film.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
No, no, I never considered music as a career. It's always a form of therapy, artistic. Bit of a hobby? Yeah, well, that's so much a hobby. I don't really believe in hobbies. I feel like you either do something or you don't. Right. I don't have fucking time for hobbies. That's hysterical. You know what I mean? Very good. I don't have time to just dip my toe in the water.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I'm not taking a fucking bath here in life, right? Yeah. It's dipping my toe in it. It's not happening. So I'm going to do something. Yeah, you do it or you don't, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, you're right. I didn't want to be a player of music, right? I didn't want to be a guitar player or a drummer, which I am those things, or a piano player. I don't have the time or patience or even excellence or skill set to be able to do that. What I did want to do is be able to play instruments to compose songs to having a form of expression. Music is a wonderful form to express.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And it's wonderfully shared as well. You can't really share a poetry so much as you can with music. It's more uniting in its experience. And so I love music for that. And that'll always be near and dear to me and very important to me in my life. But I don't want some record label saying, you've got to do this, you've got to do that. I'm like, no. where I have to do something.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Do stuff in the studio at this point. And, you know, like I did for the... from after the accident, I put together an EP of a collection of songs that were about their life, death, and recovery of this last sort of 16 months of my life or a year of my life. And I put out the... the seven songs on the anniversary of this year. Wow, that's really heavy, man. I didn't know that.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, look, it's – It's probably one of the greatest things that's happened to me in my life.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Wow. And it's not just because it happened to me. It happened to, well, we're talking about it now because you guys are aware of it. And so there's a lot of people around this planet. Yeah. It became a very personal experience that happened on my property. I was trying to save my nephew from being ran over by this snowplow and snowcat. But it's turned into not such a private experience.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I didn't know why. I was already on life support. And while everybody else was becoming aware of this incident. And then I wake up from it. I'm like, why is everybody freaking out? I'm fine. I'm going to get out of this hospital in two days. I'm walking out of here. It'll be no problem. Yeah. At least that's what the drugs are telling me. I must have been high as a kite thinking that, right? Yeah.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
But... There's a unifying understanding of or what was about to become knowledge of who I am as a man, a brother, a father, and a person. Not famous for what I did for a living. You know, I'm not Hawkeye anymore. I'm like, oh, this is Jeremy Renner and he overcame this incident or is overcoming this incident. And there's something really fucking gratifying about that where that changed my life.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Because I never liked being a celebrity. I never liked being adored for it. People call me Hawkeye, whatever. But being known for who you are as a human is really fucking cool.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And people treat you different. They treat me differently now. They don't treat me like a fan of Hawkeye or whatever it might be. Yeah. Yeah. They're like, you know, here's an example. I, on March, um, like two months, three months after the accident, I took my daughter to, uh, the magic mountain in LA, right. In Valencia. Yeah. To ride all these roller coasters. I got cleared.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Go home and write these things. But it was like, I had to take the little cart around, the little golf cart thing you have to drive around, you know, because I couldn't walk very far. I could maybe walk like, you know, 15, 20 feet. So I had to drive this cart around. But everywhere I went, And it wasn't like I was being quiet about it, you know? I was just being me.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I had a boombox I brought, blasting music, thinking I'm having a good time. But I go up the line, right? They let me sort of go up in the front of the line. But people were like this Rudy, like slow clapping. And like, we're glad you're okay. It was such like a wonderful camaraderie. Like normally that situation would be like, oh, let me take something from you. I deserve a selfie. I want this.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I want this. Touch me, whatever. Now it's like much more, there's a level of like... Give. Yeah, it was... That's a wonderful shift that happened.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, it made me believe in goodness in people that I didn't fucking think existed. Yeah, I love that. In a big, big way, right? Not just a group of people and not just a couple people in my hometown or my neighborhood. This is like in a pretty global way that this is happening.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I believe that too. I just don't think they're in the right situations to have that come out.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Well, also they became allies. We were equals and they were my ally. They became human. It's everyone, every thought or prayer, if you will, is something I actually needed. I needed everything to recover.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
yeah yeah for me i think most people have uh i have a different you know relationship with fear first and foremost because i worked on it every day something i was afraid of for a decade i just i just don't have a lot of fear in my life i certainly wasn't afraid of death but you can think that and believe that but it's a confirmation now i found there's a lot of confirmations when you're tested to your limits into your death
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
and come back, there's a lot of confirmations that come out of that. Because I can believe in XYZ, but now there's proof in the pudding because I went there. And yeah, the exhilarating peace that happens in leaving this body with these limitations of spinning on this rock and this body with air and gravity and all this bullshit. But when you... It's an exhilaration and it's just a freedom.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
So you remember feeling that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Feeling that? Really? Yeah, yeah. And I take that feeling with me all the time now. Wow. You can't really put a visual... to it because there's no time, place or space. It's all sort of a continuum. Every human, every exchange that's happened is happening simultaneously all at once. It kind of has a little bit of that arrival kind of vibe in it.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Everything's all at once and it's a continuum and it's fucking exhilarating as it is peaceful at the same time. It's the greatest way I can describe it.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
It's a, yeah, to me it's a sort of fibrous, like a muscle fibrous sort of connectivity to all, it's all energy, right? So I guess that's the feeling that it is. I can't even say it's a visual because I don't feel like any of that's there.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
that moment is and and well you have to understand too this right your your body like the accident right it is it could be the most excruciating pain that someone could go through right it's just 38 broken bones my eyeballs out of my head i'm looking at my eye i'm looking at my twisted legs in all these things but i'm like the pain is like really not that bad your body kind of shuts it
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
shuts it down, it's like overload, right? It's just a small part in the front of your brain where you feel pain, right? So you can kind of control that as well. And so it's interesting. Fuck, I got lost because I got so many from that accident in my brain. I get a little sidetracked.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I mean, I was in control of my breath. And that's all I had to focus on. Because if you can't breathe, then nothing else is going to matter. So I had to focus on exhaling so I could then inhale. And I had a popped lung and all this stuff I didn't know.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
No, it rolled completely over me. And then it... Yeah. Wow. Yeah, it was brutal. Right. But, yeah, just conscious breath. Conscious breath was pretty important. And, you know, like you said, there's nothing to freaking worry about at the end of the day. You know, and I can confirm that. We all have something to look forward to, whether we use God to get there, right, or whatever it is.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
But it's something to look forward to, and it's blissful, and it's beautiful. And, yeah. There's accountability and responsibility that comes along with it. And you take it all with you, man.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
You're connected. You're connected all the time to all you want to be connected to.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
i think everyone is conspiring to keep my life lean and keep the white noise out it's um i feel that life is a lot easier even though on paper it's it's much more difficult to not to spend hours just so i can walk every day you know i have to do all this stuff still Um, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm in, I'm in, I'm in good shape, but it's too, I don't have pain.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Um, I have to do a bunch of stuff and who cares? I'm still walking. Right. They told me I wasn't going to walk, but I think, um, my life being so lean and, and it's, uh, been the best gift.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
No, yeah, it wasn't really a guy that did. But, again, it's one of those sort of confirmation kind of things. Right. The things that were working for me before, I really just doubled down on. And whether, like, spending time with those. It's like you, Jason, how much you love your family and want to spend time with your family.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And asking for help. Now I'm really good at asking for help because, Jesus Christ, I needed all the help I can get. That's great. So I have no problem asking for help. And I spend so much time on myself and self-care. Look, I have hydrogen water and all these shots. I got liposomal glutathione right here. I got all this stuff. I'm doing so many good things for my body.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Like, life is just wonderful because, again, it's so clean and simple. I love that.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, well, my dad is a theologist, and so I studied all religions growing up. Oh, wow, that's cool.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Studied them all, and I found them all interesting. Organized religions never end up being my bag, but I think because of it. Yeah. But I do believe that in anything that... Believe in anything that makes you a better person, a more thoughtful person, a conscious person. Yeah. I think that's great. Amen. So I've got no problems with religion. In general.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
So I land, look, at some point in my recovery, I know I had to give up my body to the EMTs and the people when I was on the ice for 45 minutes, right? Just struggling for my next breath, and that's where I passed. And they had to jam a needle in my chest and do all that stuff, inflate my lung. I gave myself up. to them just have to work on whatever they had to do to get me to survive.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
But I think there's all, because also those, I knew the guy that was working on me and he called one of my best friends who's a firefighter. He says, you're going to want to get to the hospital because I just took off on a MedEvac flight to the hospital. And he called my buddy who's a firefighter. He's like, I just worked on Jeremy. I just want to say we did the best we could.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And he's like, there's no way Smoker's going to make it. So he went to the hospital and said, you want to get there, go be with his sister or whatever and You know, when those guys say, you don't have a chance, right? So I think there's some fucking divine intervention is the shortest. I don't know what it is, guys. I don't know. There is no answer to that.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I think the divine intervention is fucking thoughts and prayers, if you will, from others. It's the will of those doctors. They're like, look at this motherfucker. We're going to work extra hard. Or die, whatever. Like, my will, right? My will is fucking... It's strong, let me just say that.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And I think there's others... That energy goes into others that would help... All those EMTs and the firefighters that were there saving my ass, and Sheriff's Department, all those guys that were there to save my ass, right? All connected. Yeah, it's all connected, man. So as hard as I was working, I think that bleeds into others, and they worked harder, and I think every...
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
you know, flower that came in, every nurse that, you know, changed a bit, whatever the heck it is, man, that's all like love and all working towards surviving. And let that be divine, the collective divinity of humans, right? Which I think is fucking brilliant and good. The energy of human.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And I think that's what the divine intervention is ultimately. I don't think it's some God or some guy coming down on a carpet or whatever. It's none of these kind of things. I just think it's an energetic thing. And I can define it as love. You know, that's maybe what divine intervention is for me. That helps me survive. I think that fucking continues, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Us just sitting here talking about it, I'm sure thoughts of thoughts are swirling in all of our heads as we're talking, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Well, I think it's, you know, I was very terrified to get... Because to do like fucking fiction, I'm still trying to live in reality. I'm trying to live, right? So it was a hard line for me to cross.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's like, wow, man. It was a big stretch. It was very... very challenging for me mentally to get over that hump. And I still struggle with it sometimes. I don't take it super seriously. I'm in a character that I can do very well, and I know the show very well, so it was easy for me to kind of slide back into it. But if it was a very challenging role, I couldn't have taken it.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Not challenging in the sense of, because this movie, the show's challenging, but it's that, if I had to go play Dahmer or something, like something so far from me.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, I just don't have the energy for it. I don't have the fuel. I have so much fuel to put into like this reality, this body, all this stuff. I can't just go play make believe right now. because it takes a lot of time to get right here every day just so I can have a positive thought, so I can progress, so I can always keep growing. Well, listen to me.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I'm writing one right now, and I'm just going to spend the whole summer doing it. Hopefully I can get it out maybe by the year's end or beginning of next year. Amazing. But having experiences like this, I speak to a lot of different people, always something new comes out and I always learn something new in the process and the questions.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah, it's wonderful gifts. And it'll be, you know, something passed on, I'll have with you guys forever, right? It'll, our exchanges will always have a basis of this, a wink, a wink to knowing the, to the knowingness of something. Right.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
And, and we can laugh at all the jokes you want and fart and do all, you know, go play golf terribly and wherever it is, but we know that there's a, there's an underlying current of,
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Well, thanks, brother. That means it's just a shared experience then, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
What's up, man? I wish we were all together, actually. I know, right? I haven't seen some faces on the screen, but it's nice to hear you guys.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Right here in the heart. Right here in the heart. I didn't see where you were pointing. I just realized something.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, that was a really random thing. I actually ended up doing that show because I did Dahmer already. And we shot that movie in two weeks for like $100,000. So I didn't know what was going to happen with this tiny little movie. So I did it to kind of promote that. But then in,
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
it turned into like this little Cinderella story because that movie came out and then I got like, you know, William Morris, all these things happened. And then, like you said, the audition for SWAT and all these other movies started coming as like this sort of Cinderella story for a breaking actor, you know, in Hollywood.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
It'd be hard to kind of catch that. Does anybody know when... you're gonna break or have any sort of, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, yeah. I don't know where exactly that comes from. I know for me, it was being very clear and focused on what I wanted. and also what I didn't want. Early on, like I had did a lot of comedy stuff and I'm like, God, it wasn't trying to go down that road. And I ended up, that's why Domino was a great turning point for me to kind of go into darker sort of deeper sort of,
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
character roles, and I just was just kind of clear. And then if I didn't connect to it, there's an easy no, no matter how much money. I've turned down more money than I'll ever make in life because I never did something for money. That's great. And you have to be okay with yourself in that. In order to say no to money, like mind you,
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I mean, I think even during that It Factors show, I was turning down a lot of money and I had no power. I had no running freaking water. I thought you meant Hollywood power. But I'm living on $5 a month to eat. Like it's yum yum donuts. You know, you get like 13 donut holes, 14 donut holes for 99 cents. I'm crushing those for two weeks. You know, donut hole a day. It's brutal, dude.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
But, you know, that when you know you're... Sean's pants are getting crowded right now. You know your limits, right? You know you're allowing yourself to go. It's like, all right, well, I don't have to say yes to something just for money. And so it gives me the power in the ball to note things.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I feel like the calendar filled up pretty quickly. I don't know. What was next? Was the town next? There's a town, yeah, was next. Was it Mission Impossible? There was Mission Impossible. Avengers was booked, but it was shot later. And then it was Bourne. And then there was Hansel and Gretel. And then there was Mission Impossible. So it was like all that happened probably within –
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
you know six months so those and so they're all for the most part franchises if you will so like i'm kind of kind of booked up and so they all got scheduled so your next basically your three four years five years is booked yeah it was like four four years was yeah jammed up i i was i was gone for for four years wow how did you deal with that with with being away from home living out of out of a suitcase i mean that's all and all the fame too like that transition talk to us about that
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Well, it's actually interesting because, you know, I was kind of very excited to have the opportunities. And by the time, Bourne was the last thing that kind of came my way. And I had already signed on to Avengers. That's, you know, how many a decade of your life. You have to sign on for it. It doesn't mean you're going to do it, but you sign on for it, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
so that that's what i was having a conversation with with the team right so i'm like am i doing this am i really doing this yeah and then same with um mission impossible you know i talk with tom's like all right well we're gonna do three of these i'm like okay well there's i'm so my whole decade's booked for the most part right and then born comes around and it's like oh wow i really creatively obviously love to do this yeah i love there's involved love with with matt um he what he did with it and
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
But I had to really pause and say, let me think about this here. I'm kind of jammed up already. And this is also on the face of the thing too, kind of different than Mission Impossible. It's much more Tom and this type of thing. So it was a quick 24-hour sort of thinking session on it, but I had to take pause on it. And all of that's very exciting, but I knew I gave up a decade of my life.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
You can consider it, right? That's all you can do is consider it. And it's like, you're an idiot to say no to these things. They're amazing opportunities. They're all quality franchises, if you will.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, at what cost? It will be something that will be determined later, you know? Yeah. And I knew I was going to miss a lot, but I knew that there was an end to it, right? Yeah, right. So I'm like, let me go, let me give it a go. And yeah, don't get me wrong, there were times where most of the time it was amazing. Most of the time it was really great. You hadn't become a dad yet, right?
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, I wasn't a dad yet. And so that's why I can have a really good time. I was a single guy. I can just go out and just focus on work and see the world, right? And get paid to be in shape and all these amazing things. Amazing things, right? It was fantastic. But I did miss my family that I'm very deeply close with. It's very large. So I had like four birthdays in a row with my assistant.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I'm on January 7th, and he was January 8th. And he's exactly a decade younger than me. That's so funny. So we just celebrated our birthdays together like in a Ferrari in Abu Dhabi. Going to an F1. Yeah. That's great. I mean, you know. Oh, my God.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
I don't know. It was a great thing, but you don't know what will come down the road. It's a wonderful blessings. And, you know, the perspective to take from that, I mean, I'd do the same thing all over again, you know.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Well, initially, I think the... The main difference is just craft services.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
Yeah, it's in the trailer size. But yeah, it does take longer. You know, a lot of it is like in the prep too for anything that's not physical. When it's those physical movies, there's so much... you know, it's months and months of physical prep before you go do it.
SmartLess
"Jeremy Renner"
So then while you're doing it, you're training like an athletic team or an athletic sport. Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It moves it around, so you just kind of stay on top of it, and there's always something to work through, you know, in your body. Wow. And it's just, you know, look, I already have to do it anyway. I'm 54. I'm going to have to take care of my health. And I just have to make it a very central part of my life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I don't know what normal is, you know. I'm going to be, you know, I feel like I'm maybe 110% just because spiritually, mentally, I'm so much better. I got so many gifts from dying and coming back that, yeah, I'm 150%. My body will always be – look, my body is aging. So I have to fight against age. Well, recovery is age-reversing. It's the same stuff that people are doing just to reverse age.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I just do it just because it's my recovery and I have to for the rest of my life just to prevent inflammation and discomfort and swelling, things like that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Day by day. Yeah, instantly. As soon as I got home from the hospital, yeah, PT there and working to just move, keep things moving. You have to. Otherwise you lose it. You'll lock up or you lose it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's great. It takes a lot of work. And it's still working. I was having to stretch in your studio. I have to move quite a bit so I don't lock up. After a good night's sleep, it's like, eh, it could be a little stiff in the morning, and I have to do some stretches and things like that. But I think if I didn't get in the accident in 54, I'd probably have to do it anyway.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So it feels good to have to force the stretching, I think.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I don't know. It moved pretty quick. Randomly with the punctured lung and all this broke, the shoulder, the collarbone dislocation, all this stuff. That healed pretty quickly. But that doesn't require gravity and force under your legs. Like your legs have to take, right? So that took a little bit longer. The legs, both ankles, right? Those are under trauma and plates in those.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know, this is all a pipe, essentially. It's a rebar, my whole lower leg. So that took a little bit longer. But the ribs, ironically, it was only painful for I feel like a couple weeks. I also had these like plastic suitcases for my lungs, right? Because they had to let it bleed out and this stuff was going in. I don't know what goop was in that thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
day job when typically I do many many other things right as we all do in our lives but when all my focus like even parenting was out the window until I can get better so I had to do that first so that being the central part of every thought every fiber every cell in my body was geared towards a one-way street of recovery well I'm getting fucking better So I just got better.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But I had to carry those things around for a while. Once I got rid of those, I was kind of sitting up a bit more. And I felt good once I was kind of sitting up. But there's still, as you can imagine, so much trauma, so many places.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I think the longest was really getting up to stand up, to walk, to get all your joints to work properly again, to relearn to walk, relearn to move because you really kind of have to. A lot of atrophy, as you can imagine, that happens. But I was standing up and moving around. I got into a chair probably by February after like three weeks. Wow. And the more I can move, the faster you heal.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You're getting more blood flow. You're getting your body to work better. It helped with my attitude and will to get out and sit up. All the things. Each of these things are like milestones. And I would just like, yeah, and then move forward to the next thing and set a goal for myself. Even if it was just like to –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Sit up and like turn or I didn't have to set such big to reach too far to keep my confidence high. So because I keep reaching these goals and just kept going and going and going. And I find myself again, it's 24 hours a day. So what do I have to do today? Well, I don't even have to ask. It's going to get better. And, you know, it just kept going.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And whatever thing, and there's so many things to attack to get better, it's like I never got bored. I just had all these bands and stuff. I remember being in a wheelchair, and I'd wrap it around like this desk, and I'd be like a leg press. You know, all these interesting ways to try to strengthen my body and get better. Whatever wasn't, you know, anything that would work, I would do it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'd say no to nothing, say yes to everything, and let's try it. Let's do it. Took in everything. Took in everything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. It's part of the reason why I wrote the book is maybe people – because it's a lonely place where people are struggling in recovery. Yeah. And when it's a lifetime recovery, too, you know, I hope they can find something they can grab on to. Like if this guy can get overcome this, I can get out of my own way here and maybe not maybe think of it a little differently.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
The only thing we have control of ever in life and perpetuity is our perspective. So, you know, what's my I could easily just go be victimized and, you know, cry about it. And I got my career is over and it's not it's not even part of. The narrative is part of it. It's not even in the conversation. It's like I'm getting better every day for the rest of my life. That's it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
There's only one way to go. What's the alternative, Joe? What is the alternative? I keep saying that to my, what's the alternative? I'm not going to stumble around through life. I wasn't brought back here just to suffer. That's not happening. I'd say, unplug the machine. I'm done. I'm out of here. It's way better than being dead. You know what I mean?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm not going to come back and just waddle and limp my way through life. It's not going to happen.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. Yeah. You have to push it, right? Anything that's in your life for excellence, you have to obsess at it and risk everything for it. You have to or it's not going to happen. No one's going to do it for you. But what else are you going to do? Yeah. You know what I mean? Again, like I said, what's the alternative? Yeah, this sucks. But like, so does the cold plunge. And so does this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And so does that. And so does that. You've got to really test. We've got to test our bodies, our limits to really have real growth. And especially in recovery. You have to. What else are you going to do, man? You're going to take pills? Right. That was, again, one of the harder things worse than the accident as well is getting off Oxycontin. And I got off pretty quickly. That's gnarly stuff, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm glad it was there for the pain for me, but I wanted to get off it as soon as possible because it's highly, highly addictive. And coming off that stuff was gnarly.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And they put all people on that stuff. It's crazy, dude. Ironically, I was supposed to be doing a movie about... The Sackler family. Wow. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. But it was supposed to happen like literally that April or just that spring. Obviously that got canceled because I had to take Oxycontin to kind of get by. But then I had to get off that stuff real quick, you know.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know, I was brought back somehow, some way. And it would be a disservice to not do all the things I'm supposed to be doing and want to be doing. So it just took a lot of effort. And it took a lot of support. Heck, dude, I mean, there's hundreds of people involved in this. helping me not die again. But at the end of the day, the recovery, as you know, everybody's injured in some sort of way.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It was really interesting too how people treated that drug. Everyone was monitoring, counting the pills. It was a half a thing or this or that. Everyone was on it. Like, dude, what? You treat me like I'm some sort of drug addict. Don't give me this stuff. I don't want it. Jesus Christ. It's terrible. Wow. But it's pretty powerful, powerful stuff. And I don't ever blame sort of the drug.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I just think sort of how – Maybe it's free to use and it's even supported in school systems. That family kind of got away with a lot of stuff to promote that stuff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, it's the knowing part and then double downing and selling and really getting it out there.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I get always working to to get off of it. And I think maybe it was around if I got home on January 13th, Friday the 13th. And I think it was probably less than a month later. Probably like beginning of February because I had – all my molars and stuff got pushed in. So my mouth is a hot mess. My jaw is broken. But I'd have night terrors as you would being awake through that trauma.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So – and I bit down and the tooth was just in a certain spot and just cracked my molar. And it goes down to the nerve and that. I'm like, oh, I feel that pain. But I'm on all this Oxycontin. I don't feel – maybe I don't need to be on that shit. Yeah. So I had to go get that emergency extraction and get a post put in on my back molar.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I said, well, I'll take it one more time just for the tooth pain or whatever, even what the dentist gave me. I think I took the dentist stuff, whatever that was. and cold turkey off Oxycontin and Gabby Penton.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, I didn't know. You didn't know how hard it would be? No. Oh, no. Did they tell you to tape her? I don't really listen to doctors. I don't listen to the doctors, man. Yeah, so I started crying for about three and a half days straight. Even during my PT, I'm just like, not that I'm even sad, but like full crocodile tears, just tears. Tears, 24 hours a day, right? Just going.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I couldn't stop crying. And I was shivering. So this is all just withdrawal? Withdrawal, yeah. I wasn't thinking anything other than like, why am I crying? I didn't know it was withdrawal. Even because my mind's not there. My mind's in recovery and getting off this stuff and focusing on holding my body up. It takes just a lot of mental acuity to just exist, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I wasn't thinking that, yeah, of course. I looked back on it. I was like, yeah, of course I'm coming off the fucking heroin. Jesus. So I called my sister and I'm like, I don't know why I'm crying. I can't stop crying. I had these different doctors that we'd Zoom call with when I was at home. And so we called the pain management doctor.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And she's like, look, I told him, he's like, what are you doing? You got to taper off that. It takes like two weeks at least. You can't just cold turkey. It's no wonder you're feeling all cold and all this stuff because that's all nerve stuff. So I started feeling gravity. I started feeling temperature. I started feeling everything. It was like, whew.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
on fire right so um why did you make the decision to go cold turkey because i didn't want i didn't i don't like the feeling of being on pain meds i don't like you know i want to have my mind i mean i was always using like humor to find my sobriety if i could land a joke that means i'm reading the room and i'm hitting the timing right whatever it is you know right so i wanted my i needed my mind and i need my wit i needed my will to to recover i needed sleep and i needed my brain
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And the drugs kind of numb my brain, as they would, right? As they numb your whole body. So I just wanted off of them. And I don't like how I feel. You feel muddy. And I just didn't like the feeling. You know, it came with a price, but... I got the okay to like take a little fiber of oxy to sleep on if you needed to mitigate some pain just so I could sleep.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's a lonely road. It's only you. No matter how much help you have or PT you have, if your tendons go or whatever the heck happens, you still have to put in the work every day and endure the pain and manage the pain and mitigate it. It can be quite lonely, but I always found that My daughter and my family, I see their faces. When I get better, I could stand up, let's say, or not pee in a jar.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm like, okay, maybe I'll do that if it happens. And I did once or twice or three times maybe after that moment. But I got through it and I got off it. But I got off it because I cracked that tooth. And that, I felt pain. Like that is like, that's not gonna let me sleep at all. It's a heartbeat in my brain. My face is just like throbbing, right, as you would for anybody.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I said like, oh, then I don't need to take the pain meds. So that was my excuse to get off the pain meds.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Because I wouldn't have the will to say, oh, let's get off this stuff, right? But it took that. I'm like, okay, well, I don't need it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. That was like back when I – even when I had my wisdom teeth pulled out when I was like 20 or something. Yeah. You know, that's pretty gnarly surgery, right? And they give you like – it was a codeine or something. I just puked on that and said, no way. Took one pill and I never took – didn't sell it to anybody. Isn't it astonishing that some people like it? Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's just the opposite for me. I just can't. It's just my body doesn't agree with it. I just – and I'm glad I don't like it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
By the time I got to the Zoom with the pain management doctor, He said like, well, don't do that. You should taper off. Like, well, I'm already off it now. I'm like, I've come off the crying train, especially because he also made sense of it for me.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's like day four by the time I talked to him and it just helped me make sense of like why I was feeling the way I was feeling because it felt like a setback.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know, and because there are setbacks in recovery, but this felt like a real setback. Like I couldn't grab of why. And I'm pretty in tune with like my body and my emotions and my everything. And I just couldn't grab why I was when it's so obvious. Yeah. But then, you know, I don't I'm not the one really administering this stuff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
My mom just give me the pill and doing peptide injections for me and, you know, rebirthing me, you know, take care of me. What peptides were you on? Oh man. If I look back, I don't know. I was getting three, three, um, ML. So three loads and they're all mixed up. So as you would, um, Probably a lot of the same ones that I'm on now that I continue. And I rotate in and out of different ones.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I could get in a wheelchair. Any sort of milestone, I'd see their faces get a little bit less horrified, even relieved, even quite joyful even. So as much damage as I did to my family and their hearts, me getting better can – can relieve them of that burden. So it was an easy one-way road to recover. And that's why I recovered fast. And I attribute it to my love for my family.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, all those. AOD and MOTC. I have to do a lot of blood work. My hemoglobin was at two. Whoa. Yeah. That was what it was going back to work.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Back to Mayor Kingstown. Crazy. Yeah. It's like the blood of a dead man, essentially. I just got no energy. So then I started really working with... all my blood panels, big, giant, wide, 16 vial blood panels. And that started to be my new course of recovery of a cellular way, in a blood way. And that's where I really started to get strong. I was moving around. I was mobile.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
All the bones are healed. By this time, it's like a year's gone by. But now I started working on cellular and blood health. And that's when I got to, like, my skin started to look great. Because your blood tells you what your body's producing and not producing, right? So that was a great report card or barometer of where I was at, why I'm not
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
you know, where my mitochondrial levels are at, anything was at. So it was really, really great part of my recovery. And that's what I'll continue to do, still continue to do today.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. What it did for me, it's not something, I don't think there's many things in my recovery that you do that feel good. It just doesn't make you feel as shitty. Right. It's like you're building a mountain one layer of paint at a time. Yeah. So – but hyperbaric is great. It helps with lactic acid when you're working out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
As you know, it's all the oxygen you put in your body is a great necessity. Again, they're the ones, things that are even age-reversing. It's also disease-preventative. Right. It's amazing. And I got one that was – You can sit in and do multiple things. I can't just sit there for an hour and a half in the chamber and, like, I'll go crazy. I have a busy brain, you know.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And so I get a computer or whatever, email, whatever I can do to kind of continue to do it, to make it a part of my life.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, and then I go into like a red light bed, a high-powered red light infrared bed. Then it moves all that oxygen through my body even more so and gets deeper into the tissue. It's amazing.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, for tissue recovery. Oh, man, huge, huge, huge. Faster for repair.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. I was walking by. My daughter's birthday was March 28th. So I guess a few months later, I was walking. But it was a very assisted week, walking with Cain or a walker.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. Yeah. And then by the summertime, I stopped doing recovery. The intense 24-hour day recovery. I would do like a 12-hour day recovery and then go walk in the sand in Lake Tahoe. Lake Tahoe is the world's biggest cold plunge. It's a freezing-ass lake. So I just go dip my legs in that lake, walk in the sand. It's great for instability in your ankles, your joints, your hips.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I would just do that kind of stuff. Even ride a jet ski. I was riding a jet ski in June.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, taking it easy and not doing anything nice, but just living life. You know how good that is for your mental acuity, your spirit, your emotional body, and all that stuff. So I was out in the sunshine getting vitamin D. I was in nature. I was with friends. I could do life stuff. I'm back in life stuff. Now, that's a great confidence builder. So I kept trying to do those things.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And then, of course, I have to go back into all the recovery stuff that I always do, but
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, the cold water, that's not the issue. It's when it's cold weather. Yeah. Like anybody, you're stiffer. Your blood slows and all that stuff. So it doesn't help. I need circulation in my joints. Tendons don't get a lot of blood flow. I really gotta work at getting blood flow in these joints. Otherwise, they'll stiffen. And I'm just slower going. Everything just feels a little bit more robotic.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
New Year's Day, 2023. Yeah. And I host my family at my house up there, like 25 people every post-Christmas to New Year's all the time. Family, friends, whoever just kind of come up and we can celebrate the holidays together, go skiing, all these type of things. But we had a big kind of snowmageddon.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But I think that's, before injury, it's that for anybody, right? And also elevation. I mean, 8,000 feet elevation in Tahoe, so all those things aren't really kind of helping to my recovery, but my body will respond in those oxygen-depleted environments and all that stuff. So maybe it did help. Maybe it didn't. I don't know.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But I did most of my initial recovery in L.A., and then when I could, I got out to Tahoe to be in my sort of happy place in nature.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
No, no, none of that. They— There was cracks in my ankles and my foot spun around a handful of times. There was a spiral fracture in my leg. So they had to hit a rod down into my knee and they had to screw it, screw it, you know, with plates and all that stuff. So I didn't sure I just moved those things. So I don't know.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
There wasn't full like reconstruction, like people get a new knee or a new hip. It was just a lot of breaks. My pelvic broke in three spots, my hips. But you don't fix that. They even said, you broke your asshole. I'm like, is that what you say as a doctor? Is that how you say it? Come on. That's hilarious. I think there's another word for it. I think he was trying to make me laugh, and I did.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And Eric makes you laugh. He's like, you broke everything, Jeremy. You even broke your ass. I'm like, all right, that's good.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, it's summertime. Yeah, so I got to do like just life stuff. And that was really my first shot at – Allowing myself to think that there's a future and I'm not going to live a life of full time recovery for the rest of my life. Oh, I can actually go do some other things that I enjoy doing with people in kind of a normal way.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I was without a cane, without anything by the time by June and summer came around. So I'm moving around. I'm moving around with inflammation and getting downstairs very slowly. But as you would – as long as you're patient as I was, as aggressive I was with my recovery, I allowed patients to also live within that aggressive attack on each joint or each inflammation or wherever it was.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I do allow patients. And – Because I allow myself to push hard, hard, hard, hard. I listen to my body. Body says, fuck off. I'm like, all right. I'll chill out for a second. And then keep going. But I got to live life. And that was so rewarding to my spirit and my confidence, which you need in those kind of dire times. And I keep going.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And then, like I said, when we got to getting back to work, because I got so ready and Maybe I'm down to like four hours a day of recovery by the end of that first year. I'm like, I'm going to go back to work. I need to get back out into the world and use life as my recovery and still only spend four hours a day on hyperbaric chamber, red light, whatever the heck I could do to mix it all up.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
type snow event that shut down the mountain that I live on at the top of Lake Tahoe at about 8,000 feet elevation. And we got just tons and tons of snow. But it happens often, maybe not that intense of a storm. But so much so where we were cut off from anywhere else. We're snowed in. Fine. I'm prepared for that stuff. Three days without power. Prepared for it. It's fine. We can have fun.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's a bunch of different stuff. A lot of heat, a lot of vibration, power plate stuff. That was really great for numbing the nerve endings, back of my knees, back of my ankles, that kind of stuff. I don't know if you ever used that stuff.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, and that really was great for numbing like the back of my knees that really still ache and back of my ankles just so it's not quite so sensitive. I don't know if it floods the nerve endings with blood or whatever the heck it does, but it just kind of numbs it out. And I can go to sleep on it. It's great. It's beautiful.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It gets better, right? It takes a minute, but there's a relief for the reader.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I usually use just the red light bed. It's shaped like a coffin or like a chanting bed one. It's just as effective, I think, as you're going to the sauna. It doesn't take so long to heat up or anything. You just get in that thing and cook. It's amazing. And it's amazing that even like an LED light like that or infrared light could warm you up so much. But it's intense. I love it.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. I started training as soon as I got the – when I started doing blood work because my hormone, my testosterone was at 200. My hemoglobin was at two. Everything was – Your body is just wrecked. Oh, it's wrecked. And I'm going back to work. Sure. So I had to attack why I was falling asleep during workouts that I'm trying to do or whatever.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They only scheduled me maybe six hours a day on set because I fall asleep in the middle of a scene. Oh, my God. They're like, who's going to wake that fucker up? Oh, man. So I had to really work on that. I think it was really the testosterone. Once I got that level to like 700, 800 constantly – then I had more energy. And that allowed me more energy in the gym.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And once I had that, that got me more energy. So it just started feeding upon itself. I was doing blood panels every week. And I just saw progress, progress, progress, and then I just started lifting, and I had so much energy, and I felt better the more I lifted and moved and stretched, and it just kept compiling, just like most things in life, and it got easier, like most things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
With oxygen chamber, that's better when you can pile on it. Same with red light stuff. No one time at anything is going to do anything, but if you do it often enough and make it a central part of your life, it's like, oh, I was on fire. It's great. I started running. You can run now. Yeah, yeah.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. I mean, I don't know where I'm running to. I was never a distance guy. I was always a sprinter, right? I was a sprinter from high school and college. Does it hurt when you run? It feels like. If you've ever been in a car and you're on the freeway and it has a misalignment or it's a little shaky, or you've got a flat tire, it feels like I've got four flat tires when I'm running.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It looks great. It looks like, oh, this guy's no problem with this guy. Just boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, and it feels like the wheels are going to fall off. Wow. Mentally or something. It just feels like it's – because it's a lot of pressure to put on all these joints, right? Yeah. I haven't sprinted really much in a while. I haven't really worked on that.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's actually a relief. All the cell phones go off. All the iPads go away. Computers. And everybody's just playing card games with headlamps on. I mean, it's a riot. So we had a good time. You know, the food supply was still good. But, you know, it's New Year's Day and we're getting a break in the weather. So I decided I needed to clear the roads and see, come out for air, essentially.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I've been working on other things, you know, blood and cells and that kind of stuff. So, I mean, sprinting is not, you know, what am I doing? What am I going to do? Sprint? 54, for God's sakes. Maybe like for, you know, because you do stunts in movies and maybe at some point I'll have to sprint. I don't know. Or maybe not. Maybe just don't do that shit, you know. Yeah, well, maybe you can, though.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Sure I can. I think you can. I already have. I believe it. I just don't know if I want to make that a central part of the acting experience.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, that's tough. That would be a tough one. That was in excellent shape for that one. That would be a challenge.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, I don't know. How many miles can you get on this stuff, right? Titanium.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
and then and then you just have a plate there that just keeps the bones in order yep and it's all the titanium in my body is useless at this point it did its job and the bones grown but so it just stays there now is there an argument that the titanium hinders you at all uh well i mean it is foreign metal in your body um you're not it's not rejecting it but there is a point where it could
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know, just like allergies, you know, you don't get allergies sometimes for 40 years in your life and all of a sudden I'm allergic to down. They could reject it. Who knows? You never know. I'll cross that bridge. I'm worried about today. I'm here with you. I'll worry about that shit later.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's amazing. What a great blessing to have. All those people that even the EMTs and all the people that were there, the life saving stuff that did all this stuff that they had to do, man, there's so much. And I'm really known in that community, especially in the EMTs and all that sort of stuff. I have a lot of firefighter friends and all that stuff.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So it's just like a – you're just getting a little extra juice and love from these people. Like I knew – one of my best friends is a firefighter in that area, Jesse, and he's just retired. He got the phone call from his buddy who had to like stab my chest and release the pressure from the lung and da-da-da, like on the ice. I'm like – and he's the one that says, look, dude, Jesse, Jeremy is in –
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
we did the best we could, dude. You don't want to get the hospital.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. But I mean, but they're like, you know, I talked to him all later. I saw every nurse. I saw every doctor. I went by every ENT, even the pilot that flew me up there and just had to give everyone the biggest squeeze and apologize if I was a pain in the ass or whatever it was, man. Um, It's that – reminds me of just why I'm back anyway and the only thing that you take with you is love, man.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And in doing so, that's when the accident sort of transpired. And it's more of a routine type of thing to have a half-mile-long driveway up there. And I have to maintain it myself, so I have a snowcat and a bunch of other snow removal type equipment. There was a bunch of vehicles, snowmobiles even, things that got stuck in the driveway because it was a lot of extra snow.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. Yeah. Well, it just made it easier. It's ripped away all the white noise, things I gave credence to, things I gave value to. It's fucking meaningless. Bullshit. Bullshit. All the bullshit. Bullshit is gone.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I just don't – sadly, I'm in – Spinning rock with people and capitalism and stuff. I just feel like I belong. But I do. A lot of times I just don't feel like I fit into... How things work or seem to work down. Or I just don't do things I don't give value to. I only do things that are valuable in my life. That's it.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That's right. Or even your time or your career. Uh-huh. Right?
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
People do careers that they fucking hate. Yeah. Or they're in a marriage they fucking despise. All this stuff. You're spending too much time doing what? Right. Why? Why? Why? Because of fear. Because of fear. You get trapped. And it's too difficult to get out. And, you know, they get too deep and buried into some place. They paint themselves on a corner. You know, it's quite sad.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it's one of the reasons why I wrote the book is I hope there's things that that I learned and the gifts that I received from from passing and coming back and overcoming, you know, huge obstacles. And a lot of people can identify with suffering and struggle.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It doesn't have to be a physical struggle, but it's a certain way to think and perspective to work your way through it because it is a lonely place. And I think there's something beautiful about the narrative of an author to a reader or even just audio, which is even more intense because you get the 911 call and it's kind of dramatic in that sense. But it's pretty intimate.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I think you can really move the needle for somebody. The more open and honest and vulnerable I am in sharing the narrative, the maybe more I have a chance at connecting with the reader or listener.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And some of it was very light. And then it got very icy and hard. So you're sinking down like three or four feet into it. And it was a hot mess. So I had to try to dig all that stuff out using the snowcat, pulling this stuff out. This thing, a snowcat, to describe it in words is pretty difficult. But it's like a tank. It's probably, I don't know, 12 feet wide.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You can't afford that. You can't give that power. You can't give that power.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I think anybody can sink into that, right? Anybody can sink into that.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I mean, Jesus. Look, I think people need to suffer. It is an actual requirement of life. It is the fiber, the DNA of love. Real love and true love and perpetuity can't exist without suffering. It's impossible. But you don't appreciate it. Yeah, you have to have suffering. And suffering doesn't have to be looked at as a negative thing. It can be looked at as a beautiful thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's where real love comes out of. All my suffering, there was real love in there. Everyone around me just in this recovery or in a loss I may have had from an uncle or a grandparent or whatever. There's real love that comes in that suffering, even though it can be a lonely experience. I mean, I look at it that way and not as a negative, terrible thing because it's just temporary.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
What's that? It's counterintuitive. In a negative term of it, right? But we all have to suffer, right? I mean, it's part of the human experience, right? It's the Joe Rogan experience. I'm not suffering. I'm having a great time with you. But, you know, I don't think people welcome that or allow that to happen in their lives and let it be okay.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That the suffering that we suffer at the hard times are the building blocks to who we are. It builds resilience.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well, the relief is also you kind of know the end of the story before you go into it. So then you can really kind of dive into the actual...
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
The track's on each side, so it spins like a tank, like a skid steer. There it is. Yeah, there we go. That's a small, tiny version of one. But, yeah, it's something kind of like a Star Wars, you know. But this minor or metal track is more like that one right there.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's not – it seems sort of anti-human to want to do something to make yourself suffer, right? It doesn't seem very sort of characteristics of – we always want to take the fastest route to get somewhere. It's just innate in kind of human nature to do that, sadly. And it doesn't – that – That leads to a life of complacency and mediocrity.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That's it. That's exactly like the one I have. So it's about like 16,000 pounds or so. And it's very nimble on the snow.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yep. So that's why I always do – I have to fight my – I have to trick my own behavior into doing things I don't want to do all the time. If I don't want to do it, I'm like, oh, I'm going to do it. Don't even think about it. Just go do it. Right. Because I know the lazy mind just wants to like, oh, yeah, let me just skip the gym today or let me not do PT today or whatever the heck it is.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I don't want to get poked and prodded. No, just do it. Just go do it. The thing you don't want to do is the thing you probably should be doing.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. And that's why I pretty much always just do that. It gets me out of my way, out of complacency, just like laziness. It doesn't exist because I do the opposite of what I want to do. Well, that's why you're happy. And that's why I'm so full of joy, dude. I'm so happy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I've never been happier, more connected to humans, more connected to my daughter, more connected to myself, more centered in my spirit, where I am right now, where I'll go, where I'll be, where I always am and always have been. It's beautiful, man. It's beautiful.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, well, you got to surround yourself with others too that can inspire you too, right?
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So then you do things as a – even as you and I go work out and do stuff, it's a lot easier than going to the gym by yourself, right? Right. Because we are social creatures, so let's do things that – like I'm doing – like I'm building a whole rehab recovery center at my house.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. So you have to step on the tracks, you see, to get into the cab to operate it. So stepping on the tracks is a normal thing to do. You just don't do it while you're operating it, right? You're in the thing, you drive it, and it's just easy. It's a thumb, go forward, reverse, and you're neutral, and that's it. It's really easy to operate.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Like, well, maybe I kind of open this to the public and make this a communal, cool thing so everyone has access to this stuff.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I'm still considering doing that, but like – Just make it a place to be and hang so everyone can do it and it's not just me. Separating myself from other people, whatever it might be in my life. I try to find ways to make it a communal thing so it just makes it easier to continue this in perpetuity.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, big time. It really is. Yeah. Well, that's a shared experience, too, that comes with that, negative or positive, in the tent with your friends. And if you're alone and doing that, you have no one to share that misery with. But at least you shared that experience with somebody. You're like, dude, I never thought I'd love the sun so much. Remember when we were...
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
fucking eating ass sucking on the rainwater in that tent you know but it's like even a negative experience can be but it's shared it's still quite beautiful and it's a it's a map a milestone a part of your life that uses barometer to change your or appreciate the sun more or whatever it might be right so those shared experiences i think are invaluable it's the only thing i chase in my life is that for people uh that ever want to start a fire when it's everything's wet fritos
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. I didn't go down so much that route. I've always eaten pretty good. I didn't go into like things that – I haven't gone into that even yet to like, oh, what causes inflammation? What am I eating that does that? I haven't really gotten that far into it yet. I'm still – I'm sure I will. But or there was a doctor who also helped me stuff and have people cook, prepare some certain things for me.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But I couldn't tell you what causes inflammation that I put in my mouth. Could not. I mean, maybe if I have wine, probably does. Yeah, a little bit.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. But, again, I don't do – I really am good at moderating all things, all things good and bad. So my body has a chance to sort of exist and it's not forced too many supplements, too many peptides, too many anything. Right. All good stuff I sort of just moderate. Right. Once I got my blood right – because I was like 205 pounds. I'd never been more than a buck 65.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But it was just – the accident happened because you have to get in and out off on those tracks, and I hit the thumb thing and – It threw me off, and it was going towards my nephew, so I had to jump back on and try to stop it from killing him because it was going to crush him between the truck and that big blade that I have. You see that thing?
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And it's just all this surgery weight and all this stuff and it's hard to get off when you have a – your hemoglobin is two.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That and – excuse me. Proteins too. Yeah, and also it's difficult to eat because, again, my molars got pushed in. It's hard to chew. I look fine, but to chew on a steak and asparagus thing, it's like this tough. It's tough for me to get through.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, it'll be forever. I can't fix it. If I start to move those molars again, they'll probably fall out.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, and I'd rather keep them and just be uncomfortable.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, this side. Yeah, it's usually sort of like just like an arc to your thing. So my bite just kind of arcs and then goes straight back. Oh, wow. Yeah, all these got pushed in and broke the jaw three times here. And then just breaking the jaw, it doesn't ever really heal right. So biting down is quite – it's annoying. It's full chaos in my mouth, but I don't bitch about it.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I just sort of accept what it is and – It could have been so much worse. It could have been so much worse. I have all my teeth. I have a smile. It's great. You know, I feel great. And walking and breathing, I have a lot of love and joy in my life. So, you know, who cares about what happens to my mouth, man?
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It really is. Yeah. For me as well. I mean I resisted writing it because I still don't know how or why it can and will inspire people. I can only make assumptions and I think it's so particular to the actual reader and the person. So I can never sort of pontificate on how or why it's important or not. But it is like – it was an achievement for me to get through it word by word.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
that I didn't want to do, to relive it, and then, because it's in my body, and I talk about it all the time, it is a part of my narrative, it's a part of my life, it's just, recovery is just, it's just my life. And I love it, I enjoy it. I feel better, I look better, and all that stuff.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But it's like the book now is a tangible, sort of, this is a great dialogue that we'll have as long as we want, but it's just a dialogue that exists. But now this is a tangible object with words. The words don't change. They stay there like a tablet. And something kind of interesting about that is like a milestone or a tangible thing that now it exists in the world.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's a few thousand pounds, that thing. It's gnarly. So my instinct was to jump back on it and try to stop it. Obviously, it didn't work out. and got ran over and there you go. How much of your body did it run over? The entire, all of it. Oh my God.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And psychologically, that says a lot to me. So even when I do die, that's still there. So maybe it can help somebody even when I can't. be there to talk with them or whatever it might be or even exist, right? Or it'll exist long after you're gone. Yeah, it's pretty interesting because I do movies and things like that or music. Those are like the same thing as a conversation.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They just sort of exist in the moment. Like, you know, it's great going to a concert, but then it's over. Right. And then that's it. Well, what happened? Well, I could tell you about the concert. But something about something existing beyond your life is something pretty interesting.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Initially, I have a ghostwriter who helped me because I've never written a book. I've written a lot, but I've never written a book. So I wanted to get the format right. And so we would work through this format. It's almost like an outline. And then so we just do interview by each of the sections of this outline that we put out. And so then we would just talk like this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And they tell me, let's talk about this thing. Take me moment by moment in the accident. I'm like, all right, let's do that. And we meet every day for like two, three hours, however long I could sustain going word by word on it. And we recorded all the things. And I would write on my own because it would kick up new memories. And I started writing about the Lamaze thing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And, oh, gosh, that came up. And that became a whole chapter in the book about breathing, breathing, my awareness to breathing. How it became so important in my life. Anyway, so I just kept going and writing and writing and writing. And then I would do talks to companies. I would speak to kids at schools.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
detailed narrative that i put out yeah there's no other way to do it but um but yeah it's it's tough for a minute it's like i was like wow my sister it took her a while to read and anybody that was kind of involved in the incident takes a minute you know it took me a long time to kind of get through it right yeah it's anxious for me too so how long was the actual recovery because you don't even walk with a limp
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
All this was part of the writing experience because you can ask me the same question and then – but we're in this environment. But then if I'm with my family and I tell – answer the same question, it's a different – It's the same kind of answer, but different.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I kept learning more and more data and information was stored in my brain and my heart and my spirit and had to unearth it and put it down into words, which I found to be the most difficult thing. Because as we speak... Like I'm doing now, it's free to speak whatever you want, but to write down the words, oh, wait, there's accountability to the words because they're written.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And you have more word choice. My brain doesn't operate as fast as I'd like to for my vocabulary. I'd probably drop way too many F-bombs instead of really great words that I do know. So it was nice to be able to take the time. and spend the agony to really kind of express word by word through it in a very real honest way.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's more like a diary, a recounting diary than it was trying to be fancy with words and overcomplicate something that's really quite so simple.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Because I went, the tracks were here to jump in the cab, I leaped up and over to try to grab onto it and got sucked under the whole thing so the whole length of it just kind of, so there's like a set of wheels that turn these tracks, you see? And there's like six wheels. So it undulates. So I felt all the undulate. The first one was the worst, like the pressure and skull crush and all that stuff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
The order always was working for me from the beginning. It allowed for flexibility for what would come up in conversations, in the writing. It allowed for fluidity. But there is a beginning, middle, and end to this. We already knew the end or I knew the beginning. And so it was it was the branches off of I didn't know I was going to talk about Lamaze in this book.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Didn't know that was a huge milestone in my life. that got me to understand what conscious breathing was and mitigate pain. Because there's this whole thing about Lamaze. I was taken at 12 years old. My mom was pregnant with my sister. And she said, put down the cleats, son. You're not going to soccer practice. Just grab a pillow. You're coming with me to the class. I'm like, what class?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It was Lamaze class at the YMCA. And my stepdad was out driving a truck or something. And so my mom, she also needed me not to be alone. And she needed, you know, whatever. So she brought me. The oldest. And I laid there with a pillow between her legs and teaching her how to breathe and short breaths. And then they pulled down a screen.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Then they showed this midwife birth at home in a bathtub and squirting out water and this whole thing. Like, what's going on? I'm 12 years old. I'm mortified. What happened? Is that a whale breaching? What was going on? You know, and so that came up in just sort of me and my partner talking about it. And he's like, dude, you don't realize.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm like, yeah, well, that's why the book's called My Next Breath. You know, it's all about breathing and breathing was. Such an essential part of my recovery, my essential part of my not dying and to get through each and every moment. The perspective of breath, it is not a conscious thought. It is – right? It's just reflexive in our body. And when we make it a consciousness –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
when we invest into our breath, what you can do with your mind, with your breath, right? It opens up, like the more you breathe, the more you get oxygen in your body, it's just feeding all of us. It feeds you, it only feeds you, like yawn, people yawn. And I say the example of like, oh, you're tired. No, you're not tired. It's your body.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That you know that you need to breathe, get more oxygen in yourself, right? So you're not tired. You just need more O2. That's all.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And then it releases because then the undulation of the tire and the track and you're awake for that. Just like by the sixth undulation, just like, all right, all right, just kind of finish already. And you're just like. It was like, you know, you're like you're drowning and being struck by lightning and bleeding out. All the things all at once, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. Big time. Yeah. I always try it whenever I explain it to somebody. I say like when I use it. I don't do it like on a daily basis. I mean maybe now I do. But I did it for, like you said, for anxiety when I was nervous in an audition. How do I get out of this situation? I'm not in my body. My heart's going like this. I can't read these lines. I hear Sean Penn in the room.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm supposed to go there and be better than this guy. I'm like, oh, I'm freaking out. I'm sweating. So I said... Screw this. I leave the room. I go out of the building. I go out into the street like on Sunset Boulevard somewhere, find a tree that's rooted in this damn earth. It might look ridiculous. I don't care.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But the courage to go down on your knees, go by the root, be in this earth, just take some 10 deep breaths as cars are honking and da-da-da on Sunset Boulevard. I don't give a shit. I'm back in my body. I'm back on this earth. Here I am. Let's fucking go. I went back up in that room and I smashed that audition. I don't remember if I got the role or not, but it doesn't matter.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I was back in my body. I was back on earth, right? It wasn't like in the state of hysteria or nervousness or that, you know, because I don't like that feeling. So I found a way to overcome that feeling. Some people might just live in that feeling all the time. They might like it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It was never like something I was ever aiming for, really. What were you aiming for? Truth in everything I was doing. Truth? Yeah, honesty and truth. Because if I don't believe it, then how do I expect someone watching me to believe it? I have to ensure that everything I'm doing is truthful and honest and courageous and bold and all the things. So it was never to try to be a movie star.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I don't know. I was clear about what I wanted. Very clear about what I wanted. I didn't move down to L.A. to be famous. I moved to L.A. to be in a movie. Be in a movie that was big enough that would play in Modesto, California, where I'm from. Because they don't get all the movies there, right? Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And being a part in that movie that I wouldn't have to tell my family, you know, I'm the guy in the red shirt waving in the background. It's a part big enough that you would just know I'm in the movie. Yeah. And I got that. All those goals. And the first job I ever did on camera in this National Lampoon senior trip movie.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So then I had to recalibrate now new goals to – so I'll get myself – and I was working enough. So I never – my goals were always to – like I wanted to be the lead in a – by the time I got like Dahmer and then Hurt Locker and all this kind of stuff, it just kind of made – I was ready for that stuff. But I was like 38 by that time. I was like the new guy in town at 38. Right. Isn't that crazy? Yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's like immense pressure and a movable object. And, you know, my skull kind of lost out but still survived. Your skull kind of run over. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, you know. Yeah, it's everything. It's 38 broken bones and eyeballs out. Oh, my God. And it's... Shout out to medical science. I know, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I was just ready and I did my journeyman stuff. Hurt Locker is fucking amazing.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It was interesting. I got to spend, you know, I was at Fort Irwin for about a year learning how to build bombs and render them safe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. Got to spend time with the guys and gals off campus, off base. Interesting. I love the whole experience, you know. And then got to go shoot the movie, and that was on the Iraqi border in Jordan during the war. And it's 135 degrees in a 100-pound bomb suit, you know. It's not even hot anymore. It's just sort of like you let that go. You just are.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's kind of a spiritual sort of place you have to go in that kind of heat, right? Yeah. And also you're drinking enough water. Like how am I drinking all this water? You're not even taking a leak. You're like, oh, I'm so dehydrated. I got to be careful. And that's – yeah, pretty interesting. Pretty interesting experience.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well – Most of them look like, you know, school teachers. There's like one or two guys that one guy was like kind of built like huge, big guy. The rest of them were like, you know, the guy I know did three tours. He looks like he's totally out of shape. His stomach is way bigger than his chest. He's just kind of do, do, do, do, do. This guy did three tours. This guy's no joke. It's all mental.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's all such a mental game because you have to be cool in those high intense situations because you're dealing with 155 explosives that will blow this building off the block. And the level of intensity is really interesting. Like they were so comfortable around C4 and all these things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And you've got to be careful with these blasting caps and all these things that people were getting injured all the time. They got really uncomfortable when I took them to a bar in L.A.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
We were sitting at the bar and I asked. I'm like, what's going on? It's the big guy. I can't remember his name. He's like, I don't like where we're sitting. Like, what do you mean? He's like, I need my back to the wall. I need to know where the exit's at. Right? I'm like, interesting. Because I sit like that kind of as well. I don't like to have – I don't think it's a trust issue.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I just like to kind of – I'd have my back to somewhere I know where the exit is, where the bathroom is. I look for the most dangerous man in the room, the hottest girl in the room. Just do like a Terminator checklist. Right. And that was supported by how these guys thought. And it's that same kind of thing. They just noticed everything. Just data. OK, now I can go be here. I assess the room.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Right. I feel safe. Situational awareness. Yeah, situational awareness. I always had that. But like really doing that role and spending so much time with these crew of amazing people. Just heightened that for me. I've always been quiet and observer, and this is where I just got in for me. I could tell you the color of the hinges if they match the finish on the doorknobs in places.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's just how my brain works. Always. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's awesome. I'm a home builder and designer, so I kind of pay attention to that kind of stuff anyway.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well, no, it wasn't about the amount of time. I think I was maybe to go for maybe a few months. Catherine Bigelow, the director, just sort of introduced me and said, all right, they're ready for you at the base if you want to go. So I kind of went out and just kind of did it all on my own and just waiting for the movie to kind of get up and get greenlit and go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And it just took a little bit longer. I think we were waiting for one of the actors that was doing another job to finish, and then we could start. And then it wasn't an easy independent film to kind of get up and get rolling. But once we did, we were rocking. But, yeah, it didn't mean to be like a year, year and a half. She just called me and says, like, are you ready to go?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And, yeah, I mean, all the doctors were like, dude, I don't know how your eyes are still operating or still working, but... I think because I was on ice because I did see it. I'm like, well, maybe I'm going to put this eye on ice and just kind of rolled into it. I saw my eye with my other eye. Right.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm like, yeah, like I'm getting deployed. Like, yeah, let's go. I'm ready. And then I also – like we didn't even have a – like an EOD sort of tech on –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
on the shoot I had to be the person that I had to call back I'm like I don't know this doesn't look right they set up these 155s and it's electrical and it should be dead cord and all these things that I learned but I wasn't an expert by any means I just wanted to make it look authentic in the movie so I had to call back and call me back let me take a picture of this shit I don't think it's right
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I wouldn't want to do that because we wanted to be very authentic to what we were doing. We are still making a movie, but let's live in this world. And look, the narrative is that the characters that live in this bizarre world in a very relevant time, in this war that we're in. and also the struggles of, you know, soldier and civilian life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And because they were civilians and now they became soldiers, they'd be put in prison for life for doing the shit they're getting paid to do now. And that, you know, and that was a wonderful sort of outcome of the movie of how it bridged that sort of gap or the struggles with PTSD and coming back from this harrowing sort of existence and war. And then coming back and like,
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Like the cereal aisle, that example of like, oh, really? Or in the rain and you appreciate the sun. It's just such a polar opposite. And this is my existence. And it became such a really wonderful sort of starting point for wives to deal with their husbands that came back.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They can kind of understand a little bit of what they might have gone through just in general, like the broad strokes of how hard it is. And then to come back and then, like, you know, change diapers and do the thing. You know what I mean? Right. That became such a powerful thing in that narrative that I found after we did it and we're showing it to all the military bases.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And it's always going to be a special experience in my life and always be connected to a lot of soldiers because of that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I'm like, I'm going to keep that thing because I'm on like an icy asphalt driveway that's off of my driveway. Right. The top of the road. So it wasn't really great for impact of getting ran over. I wish I was on a snowpack. It would have been maybe a little bit easier. It would have pushed me into snow, right? But it wasn't.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That's why it means a lot to me. And they let me know it means a lot to them. Yeah. That's the most special thing. Fuck the movie part of it. It's created a dialogue for a lot of broken families and united families better. Like you said, it's a greater understanding of that difference of soldier-civilian life. It's a great bridge for it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well, now it's different. You know, the essential part of my life for so long was my career. And then my daughter came around, and then she's number one. So then I would do... the job that would allow me still to be a father, because I'm not going to not be a father, because my job takes me away for long periods of time, and I'm just not doing that in far places.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I'm not working out of the country anymore, once my daughter was born. So I always had reach and access to my daughter as fast as I needed to be. And then now, after the incident, it's even tightened up more And loosen up more because my daughter is now 12 and she doesn't need me as much. She wants her friends a little bit more.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I just kind of rolled onto it just like maybe I could kind of put the eye on ice until I could figure out how to breathe. I had to sort of laugh at it because it's weird to sort of think about that, you know?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
A little bit lower on the totem pole. Just temporarily, I know. And also I can travel. Like I just worked last summer on a job. There's a movie called Knives Out. And then I brought my whole family with me. Knives Out was great. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah. So this is going to be a really good one, too. But I was able to bring my entire family out.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Like 15 people came out because a lot of them not well traveled. And I got to see a lot of Europe. Took my mom and my daughter to the Olympics in Paris. Dope. Got to spend a couple of weeks in Italy. And it's kind of. Yeah. So we can do that kind of stuff now. So I did the job essentially just to have a summer vacation with my family.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So that's kind of how I decide. And also I did love the character. I mean, come on. All that has to line in there too. I'm not just going to do a job for a job. But it just lined up. But my family has to be involved. My daughter has to be involved. Friends have to be involved.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Otherwise, I'm not going to remove myself from all those shared experiences with people in my life just so I can go do a movie. I don't want to do any movie that bad. So that's my limitation.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. And work with people that inspire me and I think, you know, I'm just not going to do a job like you can't pay me. Maybe you could put a trillion dollars in front of me. Go do this. You only need it for two weeks. I'm like, it doesn't fit. It doesn't check all the boxes that have real value. The shared experience, the joy with my daughter, my family, my friends.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Then it's just not worth it to me. I don't need to go act. to do a job. I don't. You do it because you want to. Yeah. And that's to me what retirement is. I'm doing what I want to do with who I want to do it with and I'm still always going to be busy at work. All my life I'll do that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But it is – This is a better life. Well, it is in my mind. I'm a busy guy and I like to contribute. I'm very busy doing the Renovation Foundation, right, which is a huge big central part of my life with my family that runs this charitable foundation in my community in Lake Tahoe for foster youth and disadvantaged youth and giving them opportunities that they don't have, these poor kids.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And that's great. And I love that. I love I get – is that retirement? It's going to keep me busy until I die.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, exactly. But I don't think a lot of people are doing what they want to do in their life anyway. But, yeah, I'll always work, always do the things I love to do, and I'm still continuing to do the things I love to do just on my own terms. I wouldn't be able to start this foundation if I wasn't living life on my own terms. I am satiated beyond satiated. I don't need anything.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I require a shared experience on this earth, and that is it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But there's a lot of things in the way or things I allowed to be in the way or things I put in the way. Allowed to be in the way. Yeah, I allowed to be in the way. And now I do not. I refute it. I push it away. I am certainly clear when I put obstacles on my own way, when I get my own way, we all do that shit too. But so I'm just very, very, very clear. And I keep I oversimplify life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Because life is just that simple. If we complicate it, then you're going to have an overcomplicated life and it's just not as valuable, I think. I live both. Yeah. And the wonderful oversimplification has allowed me to, again, use the word retirement in my mind. I'm just living a life that I want to live. Right. That I deserve to live, that I choose to live and not be...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Limited or rabbit hole or victimized by society or the country I'm living in or the neighborhood I'm living in or the job I have. I don't have any limitations because I'm making manifest everything that I have in my life. And it feels great. I'm the captain of the ship. It might take a minute to turn this bitch around, right? But I'm the captain of this damn ship. It's called my life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I think that's a trap, personally. I think you're doing it already. The journey is there. There's no end result besides, yeah, you might.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Initially started with a show that I produced and put on Disney+, which is called Renovations. And it was taking – I didn't like to see a lot of vehicles go to waste, like purpose-built vehicles like a city bus or a fire truck and all these things that – supposed to go a long, long, long ways, but they just replaced them even though they're perfectly good vehicles.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I wanted to repurpose those and help them help, you know, communities in need. And like, so it's taking, like I built one to be a water truck, like a box truck to be a water treatment plant to give kids in villages with terrible water and be able to, you know, reverse osmosis their water, give them drinkable water at their school or take a, there's a,
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It took a city bus and turned it into like a dance studio, a mobile dance studio for these kids in Mexico and just these creative sort of things. And it's kind of like Pimp My Ride, but with like real valuable things, you know, just take these really cool purpose built trucks and sting and make it something really spectacular for these kids, all kids driven to give them what their needs are.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And then it just went into like I didn't want to make it about just vehicles alone. When I wanted to start the foundation, it became a wonderful calling card. And then I started the foundation, and my sister works for DCFS, which is Child Protective Services, in Los Angeles County. And one of my best girlfriends in Reno, she also works for CPS, Child Protective Services, there.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I've been working with foster youth for many, many, many years privately. And now I just wanted to really get invested into the community. So I started small in northern greater northern Nevada. And it's into my sister now is running it. And Shane is running it as well with me. And the whole family's now gotten involved. And it's been really wonderful to come back from the incident.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Have this be a central event. goal for us to celebrate our time together as a family and to give back to these kids that are in great need. And it has been a dream of mine that I've been wanting to do for a long time and now do it publicly. I've been doing it privately for a long time. And to really make a big splash and make a lot of movement for these kids.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I think it's one of the reasons why I was brought back. Outside of all the other things, but I think there's something working in my favor to to come back outside just, you know, my family. And I think it is my reach to kids and my ability to have a great effect for them. And it's been. a couple years now and it's already been moved the mountains for kids already and will continue to do so.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it was like a lot of ribs and all my spiral fracture and my legs, all my joints were broken, all my ankles, my knees, my... None on my spine, and I only got a laceration in my liver from one of the ribs breaking in a couple spots, and I went down and kind of stabbed it, but it didn't really mess it up too bad, so that's okay. But all my organs, my brain...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
This is like me breathing. This is easy. I love this. This is a part of my fiber, my body. I'm the oldest of seven in my family. I've been changing diapers and living as the oldest. It's sort of my birthright to be able to do. What makes it even cooler is that I'm a Marvel superhero. So I have like a reach and access to these kids that they even listen to, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They're like, oh cool, let's go to camp with Hawkeye. That's just dope. And they all show up with plastic sacks, right? And this is like all their valuables in their life. And it makes me weep, right? And this is all their worth. And they show up with hefty bags. All of them. So we give them rollers with their names on it and a passport. It's like a journal.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm going to change the narrative of this. You're a traveler now. You're a world traveler. You're not carrying your trash around with all your worth in it. Your worth is much bigger than that. We're going to... Just planting seeds like that in their head and then creating community for them, creating opportunities for them, safe places for them, giving them more educated stuff.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
We brought in a recording studio bus for them to touch all these instruments they'd never have access to. Who knows what that does? I don't care. Let it have access to things. Give these kids opportunities that they deserve. This is the future of our fucking planet. Why aren't we giving more time and effort to that? It's the future of our world, man. Let's give them all the tools.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
We need another Elon. We need other super smart, amazing people, man. We need that. We need other leaders. What do we give in our youth, especially our foster youth, man? It's not a good look. They've gone through a lot of struggles, these kids, man, and they're not going to struggle, not in my time, not in my time. That's amazing. So it's easy for me to do.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's a great focus for me that's outside of – It's things I enjoy, right? I still do things that I enjoy. I just get to do it with these kids. They teach me so much. I learn so much. They keep me in a really youthful spirit. It's harrowing to hear what they've been through, Joe. I don't like to know. My sister knows all about it. Shana knows all about it because they get the phone calls.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They have relationships with a lot of these kids. They know, dude. I mean, you'd probably react like I would. You want to flip a table. You want to hurt some people. So I'd prefer not to know. how they got touched and who did it, you know, this kind of stuff. I just try to choose to focus on let's give these kids, plant some seeds of hope. And I'm good at that shit. And I love it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So we're on jet ski. They've never even been to this lake. So whatever the heck it is, new experiences, new joy, new friends. They're all crying at the end of this camp because they had such a good damn time. One of them was getting adopted and she was crying because, like, I can't come back because I'm not a foster kid anymore. I've got adopted. Like, no, you can come back.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know you did good then when she didn't want to get adopted. It means we're doing something right for these kids. And we're going to continue doing it. And we're doing it not only just as a camp, but we're doing lots of programs throughout the year to keep the community of the foster youth community together.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
A lot of these kids are brothers and sisters that never get to see each other because they're in separate homes, separate cities. One's in Vegas, one's in Reno. Dude, you can't do that. You can't do that. So we're doing our best to... Unite community, right? We need each other. These kids need each other. Even beyond they don't need me, they need access and reasons to be together.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So it's helping the foster parents. It's helping the kids. It's whatever we can do. We're going to start building youth centers as well. We'll be building homes as well in the future. with the foundation, but we're starting step by step, breath at a time, brick by brick, and building camps and activities and education for them. I love it. You can see how much I love it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I love it, man. We have these camps coming up here in June and July, so I'm pumped. Can't wait to finish this job and go... Go back home.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I don't think there's any brain damage. I'll use that excuse later, I guess. Yeah, and my spine. That's the miracle. It's like, how did I break 14 ribs, right? And I cracked my skull and every arm and leg and finger and thing. My spine was spared. Oh, my God. And all my organs were spared and my brain.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well, it's like – look, there's – states have foster programs, right? But there's gaps in the system, man. It's like kids – forgotten kids are forgotten. And then some are – it's tragic. But –
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
put a spotlight on something um put energy into something um it builds and i got a loud voice and a big heart and i'm very actionable what i do and that's why the foundation's growing and and making them the moves and and making the um paving ways for these kids so i'll keep doing it man it's like it's easy how long have you been doing this now um publicly only a couple years
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It's just started out. So then it's like learning about all the nonprofit stuff. It's like, oh, man, it's like going out and asking for money. So I don't do that. I'll go do like voiceover jobs and like put money in the account for – I hate asking for money for foundation stuff. I'll let somebody else kind of bother that. I do – I stay in my lane.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I work with the kids and work with the ideas and the programs. And I let my sister and those guys on the board – deal with like you're having to raise money and all those kind of things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And that's why we operate at 8%, I think. Oh, that's great.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So, I mean, even if we got to, because no one takes anything except just basic operating costs. And if we're operating at 8%, I think maybe 13%. It's like all the money is going to the kids, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
All of it. All of it. So I'm trying to get to the bank account to be full so we only operate off the interest. Once we're there, then we can really start to move needle for building things and doing some stuff in the future. So I'm excited for that. Are you going to expand this? Yeah, it'll grow. It'll grow.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Again, I think to keep effective for me is staying in the home area or just the state of Nevada at least and not going too far because I'm very, very hands-on. And it's important for me to be the voice for the foundation and for these kids and an advocate for them. And so Nevada is kind of the goal for maybe the next –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
five years for sure and there's still a ton of kids that i have not reached and need to reach so i i focus on that that's amazing yeah yeah then there's a then there's you then there's like getting the that these use that they age out they're getting back into being counselors back in the camp um there's a great thing with you and art but they get a free ride at the at the
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
the university and a lot of them are going back into sociology and psychology and want to go help kids and foster like this is so great so i want to give them opportunities to come back and help uh the youth and maybe give them guidance god this is awesome self-healing and cathartic in its own way whatever we can do man it's a it's it's a it's a it's a wonderful wonderful Life.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It is. It's everything. It's it's again, I'm focusing my energy on all the positive stuff, you know, because, you know, because I can't too sensitive to deal with the. the hardships that they go through. So let me just be a guiding light for them or someone to laugh on. They can sign my T-shirts, whatever they want to do. I don't care. I'm their playground. I love it, man.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So, like, it's kind of almost no harm, no foul at the end of the day, even though there's, you know, probably 20% titanium in my body at this point. So how many pieces of titanium are in you? Well, the guy that invented this procedure worked at the hospital in Reno because there's a lot of crushing injuries that happen to all the ski resorts and mines that are in the area.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They'll change other people's lives. Yeah. And then it comes back. It's pretty what you put out in the world is what you get back, you know? Yeah. I see it every day, and it's exponential, especially now since the incident. The ripple effect of just... Dude, this happened in my driveway. It was a private experience. I woke up and it was a global thing. I didn't ask for that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I'm so kind of glad it did. It allowed people to see me as the man that I am and not the guy that slings an arrow.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Right. You know, so I'm glad it became a big public thing. But, you know, the ripple effect of just this narrative of the recovery is – Like you said, it can affect a lot of people, and it's a beautiful thing. It's a positive thing, like the foundation. And I see it and feel it every day.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, well, I mean, you have to – I think you have to life and review, right? Yeah. You know, there's a life and review. I think there's – I think, you know, there's birth order, right? There's also being in the 70s in a small town where I was a latchkey kid, right? I had free reign. I was seven years old and a key to the house. I didn't have to come home until the streetlights came on.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I made mistakes. I broke windows and slingshots and stole shit and light up the cigarette butt and my mom's and all this stuff. I got caught and sometimes I learned I reprimand myself. I self-policed myself. I was a very honest kid. There's a lot of things. I had a bicycle and then that was like freedom. That's where I began like, oh, I have real freedom.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I got a fishing pole, got on my bike and just went off into another county. Like that wouldn't happen today. I would never allow my daughter to go.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah. Some things are pretty miraculous. Some things can be explained. And I tried to figure it out as I was writing the book. A lot of people ask questions. I ask myself questions. Some things were on my own will. Some things were otherworldly of some sort. But yeah, I was supposed to walk with a limp because pretty much a lot of titanium. And then it was certainly not running.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So I got really lucky to get this doctor. But it took four doctors to get to this guy. So says my family. I was out in a coma. And once they found this guy, he was on vacation. The mayor of Reno actually called him, said, you got to get back and help my friend out. And so he rushed out, and he's just like, this is what he does for a living. He's like, oh, this is easy.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Is there anything that you grab from that experience that you hold on to? I mean, like to – you know, from – there's just some positive things that kind of come out from that, right? Yeah. Like I went to a different school every year of my life, at least until I got to high school. But I was in the same town. I didn't move around a lot. Maybe just in the town I did.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Divorce and all that sort of stuff. Our schools were full, whatever it was. So I had to either engage with people, all brand-new people, each grade, new school, new grade.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And then, you know, you're growing up. I was more shy and I think more like you, like an introvert. And so either I was very gregarious or I just was an observer and I just watched. So you just make choices. And that's why I became an observer. But with that, I don't know. I like that part of me. And I can be extroverted like I'm an actor and a thing, but I'm still more insular and quiet. Yeah.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I can't wait to do this for this guy. So it relieved all my family. There was such relief because they were like, oh, he's going to lose his eye. We're going to cut off his leg. I mean all this kind of tragic sort of prognosis, whatever you want to call it, right? So this guy comes in. No, no, it's all right. We're going to hammer this thing in. We're going to do this.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Even though the two quiet guys are yapping their jaws off for hours.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know, well, is it don't we like especially growing up, right? You're saying like seven, eight, 13, 14, all those years we those we look to our friends and friendship groups to sort of like kind of help develop ourselves and kind of be a reflection upon ourselves. And if you don't have it, you have other things that, you know, you turn to.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But like you said, it could have been a terrible thing if you stayed in the same place and you had the same four or four dudes and then how limited your life would have been to stay in San Fran. So it could – like you said, there's a real good positive thing to take from being removed from stability, removed from – right? That's all anxiety-inducing. Or it could be the perspective, right?
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
The perspective could be – if it's a positive perspective to lean on. Yeah, like you said, I like how I came in the thing and it drove you into – All the things that you probably like about yourself today. I think it's pretty interesting.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
We're going to do his face plate. We're going to do this. And just lucky that the orbital bone that broke and the cheekbone that broke – They only wanted to do that because my face, as an actor, made me want to save my cheekbone, I guess. Not that I cared about it. But yeah, he fixed up all my ribs, and they used this mesh, and he has this sort of weird...
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But what's the alternative? Oh, just be scared and be bullied and beat the fuck up?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, the crossroads are so, so, so instrumental in who we become. And in control of that? We're not steering any ship at that point, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
If you fix one or two of the ribs that are all broken, the rest will kind of fall into place. The body's pretty miraculous. Just give it a little direction, and then it heals on itself, and you'll grow the bone. So it's not as much titanium in my ribs as one might think for all those breaks. It's only... It looks like rebar, right? You get a scan.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well, isn't there kind of a selective hearing that kind of has to happen in anything for anyone? We have to listen and really listen to engage and really listen to learn and grow.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But then we have to have selective listening to, like, how many times I was told no or told I was crazy. Oh, yeah. Or to, like, what are you doing? Are you out of your mind? I'm like, ooh, now I knew I'm on the right track when I hear that.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Because that's the words of a fearful person. Those are the words uttered from someone who's scared and not courageous and a lot of stuff's in their way. I'm on the right track.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
That's okay. They got to live with that. I don't, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You need to struggle to appreciate love. They have to coexist, otherwise they don't exist. It's like a truth and a lie. They both have to exist, otherwise everything's just fucking true. Right, right. So you have to coexist together, otherwise you don't.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, those tests, man, those tests, don't they suck? They do. All the tests we have in our lives, and everybody has them, everybody. There's nobody that's exempt from it. No one. How much money, how successful. We're all susceptible to great tests and great suffering. It's how well you overcome that suffering. It will determine how well you love and deeply you love in your life.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
A lot of my body's like... Do you have an x-ray of your body?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, somewhere. Is it online anywhere? Where we can see it? I don't know. Do you have it on your phone or anything? No, I don't think so. I could ask my sister for it. I've been showing everybody that thing. It's pretty remedial looking, you know? It looks like, you know... Like I had a hammer and a 2x4 and some nails. That's what this looks like.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah. And there's choices that she could have made, right, in that. She could have been, like, resentful.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, but, like, you know, there's... And she could have been valid in any really kind of feeling she has about things, because that all sounds pretty shitty.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But, you know, again, what's the alternative? You want to hold on to resentment and that kind of – is that the life you want to live because it's your choice? Right. I like – fuck, she sounds like an interesting person to talk about. But, you know, is it a choice for her? Right. Does she feel like it was a choice? Like, you know, what's her – It certainly wasn't.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, for sure. Well, that's the hope anyway. We can, right?
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And without having to do it in a fearful way or scare tactics or, you know what I mean?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, but it's used everywhere in media and advertising and all that kind of stuff. But to do it in an honest way, I hope I still learn by talking about my experience. I still learn by looking through the book or listening to the audio. I'll be listening to the audio soon when I have my daughter and all my nieces and nephews around. They're going to listen to it.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
We're all going to listen to it together. Because I'm not going to have them go off reading this thing. It's too harrowing to do it alone. But, like, I'll be listening to it. I'm going to learn through it. And with that experience and that exchange with these beautiful young creatures, you know.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll keep trying and testing the limits of my body and my mind and my spirit and everything. what I can pass on to others, what I can give on to others, what they give me. I mean, it is a vibrant, high vibration that I'm living right now. And I'm so blessed to have it. I have so much gratitude at every breath. I almost feel like I don't have to walk anymore.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
It looks very like – why is there a nail and two screws? It's carpentry 101. There's nothing like – I think the guy that – because I had like screws in my skull and my jaw because that broke in three spots. And the guy took it out. It's something that he got from Home Depot. Literally, it's like some –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I just feel so lucky. And I think it has to do with... All the love and all the goodness that this world has to offer. I think that's gotten me through. And the attitude of it, that perspective of that. Because it can be a very bleak, dark place.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
You know? But I choose to... I choose love. I choose action. I choose... My perspective. It is my choice. And I've been in dark places where it wasn't quite so positive and so lovely. It was well before the accident, you know. It was just like, you know, just kind of grumbly and grumpy and don't want to leave my house. And, you know, I don't want to go sign an autograph.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I don't want to be around people or, you know, just kind of whatever, you know. Not a really great, happy place, perhaps, you know, like everybody has the right to be. But that doesn't exist at this point. You know, I don't get any more bad days, Joe.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I can gas up a snowcat for you. I can make it happen for you.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
No more bad days, brother. Right? Wow. It's a perspective that is mine and a truth and a reality that is mine. Because I have a barometer to like, yeah, I know what a bad day is actually like. And I was tested to my limits. And I got through it, luckily, somehow, some way. And it's just almost science at this point. It's a factual that it's just not going to happen. I can't.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
No matter if I try so hard to have a bad day, it's just not going to happen. I can have a bad moment. I can have frustrating times. But I'm just not going to have a bad day. And for the rest of my experience here on Earth.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I think so, too, dude. Actually, I know so. I know so.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
For a fact. It's sort of make manifestation of what your existence is you want to be. Yeah. And you can do it. Yeah. But you got to believe it. You got to do it. Yeah. Both those things.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Likewise, brother. You make me happy, man. You bring out a lot of good stuff in me. You reaffirm a lot of good things in me in a really, really meaningful way. And I appreciate you. I appreciate you too. Thank you.
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#2312 - Jeremy Renner
just it just took it out i'm like dude it's squeaking like it's in wood you need to numb it or something i almost knocked this guy out it's just like it's unbelievable unbelievable and i was always i was always kind of half in the the bag mentally just kind of because it takes so much mental um to deal with pain management.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And it's emotionally exhausting to deal with so many different things in your body. So I'm always kind of half paying attention to things. I'm much sharper mentally now because I don't have to mitigate so much inflammation, pain, and all that all the time. So I can kind of be here and laugh with you. But back then when this guy was, I almost sucked this guy so hard, dude.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But yeah, glad that was, I was really happy to, that was a great milestone for me to get these screws out of my skull. Jesus. But that was worse than getting ran over by the snowcat, dude. Really? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Well, no, it wasn't so much the pain. It's the haunting images of feeling my gums wrap around this screw and it's pulling out. It's a lot longer than I thought it was. And then there's three more to go. It was more the... The visual is, in my mind, kind of what makes it terrible. Because I'm a pretty visual guy. So I don't think anything hurts me so much in a physical way.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
But the visual is a pretty haunting image. And the sounds, dude. It vibrates your skull as he's taking it out. And it's like... This is what horror films are made of.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
They have to leave those in for the most part because why risk infection and open you up for something? But... Yeah, so all the rest of the stuff stays in until those screws come loose. At some point, they will. They start backing out, right? Yeah, yeah. You'd think you'd put in a locking screw, right?
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
And I'm doing far beyond all those things. I don't know exactly why. I can pontificate on why. What do you think of it? I think it's – will is a really special thing. And the love and fuel to fuel your will, I had in spades. I can – I feel like I can pretty much do anything if I set my mind to it. When it was my essential part of my life, my recovery, was a 24-hour –
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
I think I got, there's only a couple in my face, and they went in underneath my cheek. A plate for my orbital socket and then for the cheekbone. They put, I think, a plate or two over there to hold that bone in place. Do you feel it? I feel the lack of feeling in it. It's still numbness to this whole side because they had to cut all these nerve endings, right, to get in through your mouth.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
So even the side of my face is a little slightly, a little numbish.
The Joe Rogan Experience
#2312 - Jeremy Renner
Yeah, there's lots of scar tissue to work through all the time. What's great is it's not any one spot. It moves around. Even if you're not injured, it's like if you just twist your leg wrong and then it goes up into your hip and then it's in your shoulder. It moves around. Your body kind of...
The Oprah Podcast
Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Good to be seen, good to be heard. That's for sure. I'm happy to be here with you. It's been a minute. Yeah, it was an incident, really not even an accident at this point, as it's been reduced to. But I could say the takeaway moment is really quite a glory moment. for me and my family and life.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
But the semantics of it was a snowcat incident and we had terrible weather and I was trying to clear the driveway with my nephew and he was going to get run over. I tried to jump back on the machine to prevent the machine from running him over. It's a giant tank-like with metal tracks, type of 15,000-pound machine.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
And I tried to jump on it to stop it, and I failed and got ran over and crushed and broke 38 bones on my face, my skull, all throughout my entire body. And then a highball came out of my head and all these type of things. And then I had to struggle to breathe for a while and then stopped breathing.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
A big can of worms that got open. Essentially, I got tired in my mind because my lung, everything was collapsed, my ribs and all that sort of thing.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
I would never pass out at all. If I would have passed out, I would have been dead on the ice. Because it took every effort, physical effort, to squeeze out air, to suck air back in. And I was suffocating myself with my rib cage, my dislocated shoulder and arms and everything falling upon my pop lung and things like that. So I was really drowning. I was drowning in my own.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
from my rib cage and my bones. So my nephew was able to like lift some of the bones off my, pressure off my lung as I was able to breathe. And I breathed as long as, it was like doing a one-arm pushup just to exhale, then just inhale, exhale. So I just got tired after like probably 30 minutes. And that's when I was gone. I had my neighbors there that came to help at my aid.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
And it was too icy for it took forever for the ambulance to get there because the road conditions were awful. And anyway, the passing for whether it be for 10 seconds or 10 minutes, it's all still quite the same. I've never knew anything about near death, by the way. I knew nothing about it.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
And everything you guys are talking about, and I still, even after experiencing it and explaining some of what I felt and witnessed or was a part of, is exactly what you guys are telling me, what the stories you've heard. I mean, it's almost word for word what I said. I've written a book and I've said these exact same phrases. And my jaw is on the floor. I'm astounded to...
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
to know that this is really a thing.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
It's kind of none of those things. It's just that the word is is. You just are or is. It's everything all at once, all encompassed. There is no time, place, or space. It just is. It's the most exhilarating piece. It just is. And you're there. These words are so caveman-like that I'm saying, but that's just the way it is. It's not even like a conscious thought thing.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
You're removed of the burdens of your earthly measures of gravity and tooth decay and all these type of things, right? You're relieved of those duties on the spinning rock. You're out into this world. You know, it's to me, it's a beautiful, beautiful, beautiful space. And really, really quite tragic that I had to come back and do it.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Well, we're glad you did, because we got my eyeball, my twisted legs. And I thought, why did I come back? You know? Yeah. And it's pretty, pretty amazing to me. It's what I would define, you know, God to be or it's just the divinity of the collective of love.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Well, my dad was a theologist, so I studied all religions growing up. Yeah. But I wasn't a part of any of those religions. I became educated to them all and the studying of them all, even Eastern philosophies. And I think they're all very fascinating, interesting. It just for me personally, I wasn't going down any of those paths for me.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
I held my own sort of spirituality, but I just don't want anything to divide me from anybody else, which sometimes religions can do. So I'm more – I just kind of hold that space under my own. But I certainly have a definition of – of God in all religions now. It's not some bearded man in the sky. It's not this. It's not this. To me, it is this collective divinity of love.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Love is the only thing that you take with you when you die. Wow. That's so powerful, Jeremy. It cannot exist. It rides in the coattails of love like everything else does in life. Nothing else freaking matters outside what you love and love unequivocally. It is in perpetuity. It does not change.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Well, it kind of comes from that because I know what I take with me and what I hold and cherish and value. So what I gave credence to prior, I do not at all. One iota, one care, one even insecurity or like it's just something ridiculous like a bad review or some this or just the nonsense of what we give credence to here on this planet, man. It's just...
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
And it's subservient to love and kindness and thoughtfulness and the collectiveness of who we are as humans. And I think humanity is closely related to what love is. I think humanity is beautiful in love. I think the human part of humanity gets a little dodgy, right? We get into like capitalism and all these other things and wars and all these type of things.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
But I think the basic pure fuel for humanity is love. And I focus just on things that fuel that and just don't give credence to those that deviate from it.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
I mean, all that he was saying prior to me even coming on was, it blows my mind. It's that there's so many similarities. You could probably keep telling me more
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
similarities that you found from talking to so many people and i'll probably pick out eight of those ten that are like it's exactly what i would say almost word for word like it's scripted and i i don't know if i have a question for you per se except you could probably maybe read your book you know it's it to me it all it really does though it just feels um Maybe even more confirmations, Oprah?
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Out of information is the confirmations of what I learned post the incident.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
I don't know if it's in a positive way, to be honest. It was hard to even want to go back to... fiction, I have to worry about my next freaking breath. I got to worry about my next step. I have to consider, you know, every joint in my body was crushed. And like, I don't want to live a life of pain, right? So I had to focus on a lot of life stuff, real, real like life stuff.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
Like to go entertain and tell jokes or entertain in the fiction world was kind of so far fetched for me. I didn't know if that was ever going to happen. Now that my body's put back together like Humpty Dumpty, I feel blessed that I'm able to get back into it. I don't know if it makes me better, to be honest. I don't know if it makes me worse. I enjoy my job. I love my job.
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Oprah and a Doctor Explore What Near Death Experiences Reveal About Life and Beyond
But still in the back of my mind, I know it really has value to me. Wow. You know, I could quit this job at any day and be like, and never look back and be so happy and be around my family, be around those that I love and have great shared experience with them. And that's all.
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You know, I've never been more connected. It's released any sort of social anxiety I have. I have never felt more confident. There's something that comes like a peace. I have this exhilarating peace. which is such an antithesis of words, but I feel so at peace. You know, I'm getting, I got a wink from the universe saying like, hey, you know, now you got to see behind the curtain.
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So I got to come back and be and do exactly what I want to do. And nothing is in my way. There's no obstacle. I'll never, I'm never afforded a bad day. I've been tested to my limits of pain. So pain is just, it's nothing. That's just a human construct. It means nothing. So I live my life so connected.
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So always with love driven, I it's definitely changed in the sense of like I don't pursue things that I would pursue before because I just don't find any value in it anymore, which I'm sure many just sort of normal things. I think a lot of normal people just go about doing. Yeah. And there's nothing wrong with that. For me, I'm just very, very, very.
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There's like two or three things that I'm going to be doing in my life. And that's it. And I'm so happy. I'm happy to wake up. I'm happy to be walking on these two busted old legs, man. I'm happy to be breathing right now. I'm just like, I just have nothing but joy in my life. I'm not afforded a bad day, right? It's just pretty amazing. Pretty blessed.
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There's there's with with that, Oprah, there's that's where a lot of. It's it's it was it was all a connected thing anyway, wasn't just me, just didn't just happen to me. Right. I might have gotten ran over, but I affected so many people in my life that I love dearly. So many people that are in the ripple effect of that goes beyond. Yes.
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We're here talking about it now on a podcast two years later. So I held responsibility to that and used that as fuel to heal my family and those that I've hurt. And I gave them a lot of toxic, awful images and dreams. And my poor nephew, he had to watch me, holding my arm, die in the ice with my eyeball out. You can't unsee that, right?
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And me, never worrying about getting better, I just had to get better to help them. So whatever my physical milestones were, they were always fueled by, number one, my daughter. And then the rest of my family, too, because I love them so deeply. I couldn't bear the responsibility of giving them...
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nightmares for the rest of their lives and it might die so I'm going to take this one way road of recovery and god damn it I'm going to recover and god damn it I'm going to get better every damn day for my family for my daughter and that's how I got better so fast And then there's miracles involved at every turn here with every doctor. It took a thousand people to keep me alive.
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But to get better, once I wasn't dying, it was my family and my love, my deep love, the safe landing spot of love that I have with my family all my life. And not wanting to disappoint them. So fortunate that I had that one-way road of recovery.
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Oh, boy. Yeah, yeah.
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Thank you so much for having me. I appreciate it. It's always lovely talking to you. All right. Great. Great.
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I just almost felt this hand. I felt like it was the hand of Jesus and just being like, no, not yet, not yet.
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I was dead on the ice because it took every effort, physical effort to squeeze out air, to suck air back in. And that's when I was gone. It is a collective divinity of love. Love is the only thing that you take with you when you die.
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Thank you so much for having me, y'all. Yeah. It was... It was pretty bizarre, to be honest. I was driving home from Nashville. I was seven and a half hours away. And that night, I got a really bad migraine. And usually, if I'm feeling sick, I'll just stop at a hotel and just stay the night and then go the rest of the way.
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That night, I just believed that there's something supernatural that kept me moving. And so I stopped and grabbed some Excedrin. When I get back to my parents' house, I went to bed. I was like, I'm just tired. I'm exhausted. And we believe that there is something that just woke my mom up.
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We believe in, you know, Jesus, but Jesus just woke her up and she felt like she needed to do laundry, which is right next to my childhood bedroom. So she hears me throwing up in the bathroom and she comes in and check on me. I'm telling her I'm fine. I'm fine. I'm fine. And as I'm telling her this, I start having seizures.
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And so she's like, you are not. So we had this horrible storm that was happening that night. So our ambulance weren't running. And we live in the boonies. And so they called the private ambulance company. They met my family, my sister, my now husband, everyone. We loaded up. They loaded me up into this ambulance. And we're only able to make it to Portsmouth, which is about 45 minutes away.
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It's not the place you'd want to get your brain surgery at because there wasn't a specialist there. But if it wasn't storming that night, they would have taken me all the way to Little Rock, which is two and a half hours. And since they didn't, I actually ended up in that hospital 45 minutes away, flatlined and needed to be intubated. So that was just the beginning of the miracle.
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If it wasn't for that storm and me going to the first hospital and those amazing doctors there saving me and intubating me and bringing me back, then I would not have made it.
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So as I'm... You know, I've listened to these stories and it's so wild that everyone seems to kind of be on the same page of the no time and this complete peace and rest. And for me, I've apparently flatlined for 30 seconds to a minute. And there was no time. I just almost felt this hand. I felt like it was the hand of Jesus and just being like, no, not yet, not yet.
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And so I had this knowing, just knowing of it wasn't my time. And it wasn't this voice or anything like that. It was like everything that I was saying in my heart
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was being heard and everything that whatever it was saying talking to me whether it be an angel or jesus um was letting me know they were saying it telepathically it's so wild how that happened because people are always what'd you see what'd you see i'm like i just knew I just knew.
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Oh, my gosh. So I woke up a week and a half later, and I had a big gauze patch on my head. Yeah. And I had Bell's palsy severe on the right side of my face. And my brother, he's in a duo, and he was there, and I didn't expect him to be there. And if you've heard of the duo Dan and Shay. Yeah. And so my brother Shay just scurried on down there. My sister Erica was in there in the room.
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I remember waking up and my brother being at the end of my bed and I had no idea what had happened. I was like, oh, what are you doing here? And everything that I did after that, you know, I was supposed to release an album. I was supposed to go on tour all in 2023. I was supposed to do all these things that people expected of me and that, you know, needed from me.
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And it took me so long to even be able to think about trivial things of the world, like money or fame or getting my music out there. It was just, I had this... spiritual experience that just made me want to love on people and love on my family. And it made me realize that there's nothing in this world that matters. You can't take it with you when you go.
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You can get a Grammy, you can get money, you can have beautiful homes, but you're not taking it with you. And so the legacy you leave behind is the most important thing and the love that you leave behind with your family.
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I actually do. So after I had my experience, it was so hard for me to acclimate. Do you find that that is common from people that have had near-death experiences to be able to kind of go back to their hustle?
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I'm actually writing several. It's funny because we started this song called Coming Back to You. And it's not just about my husband. I love him so much. He's perfect. In fact, while I was in the hospital, I had Bell's palsy and one eyeball was open. And I knew I was going to marry him when my sister told me that he just went over and just closed that little eyeball for me.
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So I have so many songs. I have so many songs written about him. But we have one, they're writing called Coming Back to You. And it's about my family and my husband just being able to share their life experiences with them. Because that's the thing that you'd miss out on is their lives, right? You know, people think that it's just your life you're missing out on.
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Thank you so much.
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I mean, now that's kind of crazy, you know.