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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
On today's podcast, I have somebody, John, by the way, that I have been dying to get on the show because of who he is and what he's done and all the things in between.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
We have John Mackey, who is the, was the, is the founder and CEO, was the CEO of Whole Foods, a place that I've been obsessed with for, I don't know, 25 years of my life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And he's on today.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
We're talking about all the things about Whole Foods, Amazon, his new project, Love Life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I'm really happy to have you.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, my gosh.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
This is my dream come true.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because the amount of times I've...
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I've said to people, the one person I think would be really interesting to interview is a guy who founded Whole Foods since I'm like spending half of my life and most of my paycheck, as you know, at Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
On this show, by the way, we do healthy shots on here, not alcoholic shots.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So we do these magic minds.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Are you cool with that?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I want you to do a shot with me.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
They're healthy, though.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I have to do it with the founder of Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Let's do it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
This is a big day for magic mind.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Cheers.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Do you like it?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I wonder if they're still at Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I know they're at Air One.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I don't know if they're at Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Sorry, you're the nemesis.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Let's just start with that because that was one of my questions down the road on my many questions to ask you.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because I feel that Erewhon has become the new Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like back when, you know, Whole Foods to me was like you'd walk in and it was like, aww.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like it was beautiful and it was the shelving and everything was perfect and the food was really seemingly very healthy, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I feel that it's changed over the years.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
We'll get to all that stuff.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And now Erewhon's become like the new panacea for health.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What's your take on Erewhon and that whole thing?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's so interesting because, you know, it's become like a bad joke, actually, Air One, because it's so expensive.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's to the point where it's stupid expensive.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And we used to think that Whole Foods was expensive.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Remember the whole paycheck thing?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And now I feel like Air One's now taking it to such a crazy level.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I think like, who could even have, like, people are standing there in, like, there's lineups just to get in.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like, it's become like a tourist attraction.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You did a great, I mean, listen, let's just go back to the beginning before, because it's funny, you just mentioned Amazon, which I have a million questions about Amazon and the acquisition and all the things.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But like the fact what you built with Whole Foods is just incredible.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And what was so interesting when I like was looking through your book and reading your book and watching your interviews and knowing you're going to finally be on the show, it was that like there was such a juxtaposition between who you seem to be like in like personality
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
your personal life and then how you built such a juggernaut like Whole Foods, because you came across so like spiritual and all the things that you do with the breath work and the psychedelics and you love, like love life and all these ways of how you like this ideal version of like how you see the world.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But at the same time you, to build what you built, like that takes hardcore, like you have like, that's, that's a,
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's an entrepreneur on steroids to be able to do what you did.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How did you blend the two things?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I guess your ideal and the realistic way the world works in corporate America.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You did it for many, many years.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So you mentioned Trader Joe's.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I find them to be the one thing I found feels very similar between the Whole Foods and back then.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because I feel that Whole Foods is different now.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I'll talk about that in a minute.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But Whole Foods and Trader Joe's, their corporate culture, the culture is very obvious when you walk in.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like when you walked into a Whole Foods and when you walked into a Trader Joe's, you felt what kind of their position was and what they stood for.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
The branding is on point, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I think so.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But in every way, I don't know how else they're similar, but I feel like, but Whole Foods was more high-end, I would imagine.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yep.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But what was your favorite book, by the way?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You said you read all these books for business because you never took school.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, you mean Carnegie?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Okay.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, that's a great idea.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because I know that when you just mentioned, you know, you read a lot of books, the first question I'm going to get is, if I didn't ask you the question, well, what would be his top three business books?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I think I was going to say, that's why I had to do a follow-up question on that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Otherwise, I would be like, oh, I don't know.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So those, people always come on here and they always say rich dad, you know, rich dad.
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Rich dad, poor dad.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I read that book.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's pretty good.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Did you like that one?
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100%.
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100%.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's interesting because there's a lot of life skills, foundational skills that are not taught in school.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I don't know.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I talk about it all the time.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
In fact, I'm doing a TED Talk on it in two weeks.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So I'm a big believer in that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, more than that now, but yes.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Thank you.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That one was about being bold and asking for what you want in life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And this thing called, I created this thing, I coined this thing called the 10% target, which is make 10 attempts at whatever you want in life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And either two things happen.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Either you will get that thing or another opportunity will present itself.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, that's the whole thing.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Research has shown that most people don't even make one attempt.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Almost nobody makes two.
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Makes one?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, really?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Almost nobody makes two, never mind one.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So if you're somebody who makes 10, the chances of you getting to the, you know, kind of even like bumping yourself up is just, it's immensely higher.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How?
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No.
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Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What do you eat then?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What kind of foods would you say did you not like that now you've trained your brain to like?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Name one that you didn't like and now you eat it.
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Oh, yeah.
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Kale.
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Oh, so you didn't like vegetables at all?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So this is so, like I said, you're such a dichotomy.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So here you are, you built the biggest, most well-known natural grocery store on the planet, and you were someone who didn't even like vegetables or eat vegetables or do anything with vegetables until you were older.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, so let's go back a little bit chronological so we can like give people more of your backstory.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because you initially had like a store called The Safer Way, which was a better take on Safeway, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And that ended up being whole.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Can you just kind of give your, better you say it than me.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So can you just kind of give a little bit of a background?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So how did you go from one store to like four stores?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Did you have some type of mission statement that you were involved with?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What would you say, because what I noticed is it did change over years.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I'm trying to remember, was it when Amazon, like, was it after the Amazon acquisition or was it already before the Amazon acquisition?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Really?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, what happened?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How did Amazon become the people who bought you?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Why did you even want to?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, they took away the decentralization, which, by the way, I guess after you said that, it makes sense.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That does make a major difference in the customer's user experience, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because the problem I have with Whole Foods is that one, it's not the same.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
There's no...
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I feel like the quality or caliber has gone down to the majority.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
There's some that you walk into still, like the one near Love Life actually in Manhattan Beach or El Segundo.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I went in there for the first time when I went to Love Life.
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It was beautiful.
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It was immaculate.
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It was clean.
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It was very nicely shelved.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But I can go to five other Whole Foods and it's going to be kind of like the quality is not there.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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You actually did.
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What do you say besides the fact, like if you were to go back or look, we talked about all the benefits that Amazon added to Whole Foods.
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What would you say besides my little rant?
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What would you say the things that you've noticed have been kind of like the negative things or the things that kind of haven't been up to snuff when you were involved?
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Exactly.
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I was going to ask you about that because one thing about Whole Foods is like you can go anywhere and there's scalability.
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Most people in Ohio or Wichita, Kansas are not going to be able, they're not going to be going to Aero One.
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It's just, it's kind of like when you go to a zoo and you see a lion.
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That's why when you have these tour buses who come to LA and they all come off with their cameras and they take pictures of the Haley Bieber smoothie at Aero One, right?
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$25.
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Yeah, it's crazy.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's insanity.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And by the way, this is the irony of this whole thing, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I was speaking with somebody who was a big executive at Erewhon for a while.
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She left.
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And people have this optical illusion that it's healthy because it looks very pretty and they talk about having an organic bee or pollen or whatever.
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Most of the food there is not healthy.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Right.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's just not.
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When you put that much oil, like the food bar, like the hot bar, you're now spending a fortune on like food that you can get pretty much even at Albertsons, honestly.
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Like maybe it's like one or two levels above, but you're spending, like I went there, I spent $45 on a piece of salmon and some vegetables that I literally could have gotten for at Trader Joe's for like $11, $8.
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Yeah.
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But you're not getting that there.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I think what they've done well is branding.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And when you walk in, the feeling that you get.
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You feel like you're doing something healthy for yourself.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's the emotional thing.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Companies are doing really well in the emotional piece.
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100%.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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It's TikTok friendly too.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You can go there, get your little smoothie, take your little picture.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, also it's a different time, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, you can?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What is the special deal?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because you went from, before even, we're going to get into Love Life, but I want to finish with the Amazon situation with Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Did you step down because you wanted to from Whole Foods, or did they push you out?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What was the reason behind it?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
They do.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So were you really like, so a lot of times when this type of situation happens, people are like figureheads, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
They're not really doing much.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
When you were there, besides that thing that happened with David Clark, what were you really involved with before you kind of gave it to the helm to Peter?
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What's his name?
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Jason.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, what do you do?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What does a leader like you do?
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Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm curious, how are they doing now post-Amazon?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How's Whole Foods doing?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, from a financial standpoint after Amazon.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You're not?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because it was a public company.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You had to give all the shares and all the people.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, I read something that you capped your salary at a million a year.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That wasn't right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Nothing?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Are you allowed to go to Whole Foods right now and like pick an apple?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Would they charge you for it?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, my God.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Hold on a second.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So when they sold, and of course, with venture companies... No, I had stock in Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, that's what I'm saying.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So you took a dollar salary.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How much stock did you have when you sold it to Amazon, when Amazon acquired it?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
No.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's a good story.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's a real, you know, you don't hear that very often, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
When you have people like someone like you who created like, you know, that's like a massive household brand, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like it's Starbucks, Whole Foods, like everyone knows that the assumption is you walked away with a lot of money.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I did.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You did.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
No, I was going to say, I know.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But the fact that like the way, I guess this plays maybe into the conscious capitalism.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Same principle.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, can you talk about that?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Can you tell people what that is, what that means?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How do you define conscious capitalism?
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The one that you just said, though, I think is so true and so overlooked and underrated because we're living in a world that values those things, money and power.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But no matter how many times people say that doesn't bring happiness, it doesn't seem to penetrate or resonate.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
People still chase it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How did you kind of steer away from that?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, you seem to be, how long have you been married?
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35 years.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I would imagine after you sold Whole Foods or people or being the CEO and founder of Whole Foods, you're probably surrounded by a lot of people who are very, who admire you, right?
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How do you kind of like create a life of meaning and purpose and of authenticity when you can be surrounded by so much of that other stuff?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But a lot of times people feign, they pretend.
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Discerning, that's the one.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You've got to be discerning.
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Yeah, that's for sure.
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Totally.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You know I'm all about finding an edge, the small daily habits that give you more energy, focus, and resilience.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
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We're talking steady all-day energy, sharper focus, faster recovery, a stronger immunity, plus glowing skin.
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But the biggest win?
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for real longevity.
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You said your dad was your mentor for the first 16 years.
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What were a couple of the big lessons that he instilled upon you or taught you that helped you?
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Would you say one of your strongest skills was your ability to build really good teams underneath you?
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Yeah?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What other skills would you say are your main?
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Yeah.
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No matter what it is.
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Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And people follow passion.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So you think that your strongest skill set is building great people and teams underneath you, having a lot of passion and purpose, and being able to instill that and kind of invigorate that in others, basically.
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No, it happened.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, okay.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I think I did hear that before.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's a really good story, though.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But I remember hearing that now that you said it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So let me ask you something, because then you stepped down from Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You're 70 years old, you said.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Why didn't you just retire and go enjoy your life?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Why did you think, okay, now I'm leaving Whole Foods.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm going to now start a health and wellness facility chain or whatever.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Didn't you do that already with Whole Foods?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, people probably, you disrupted that market, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So you kind of did that in a big way.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It was not.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
No, it was not.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So how involved are you?
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It's called Love Life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How involved are you?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Are you really involved?
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Are you tangentially involved?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's a good question.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
In between that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
How would you describe it, though?
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Are you trying to build a brand around, like, it's not a fitness, it's kind of like a wellness facility?
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Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
There's so many different modalities now and things like that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's such a noisy market.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's very crazy.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's incredible.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's become like, you know, the wellness business is like a trillion dollar business.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, you know all this.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I think people are very confused because they don't know what to list.
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Like when there's so much noise, everything becomes just difficult.
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Mm-hmm.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What's your forecast?
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Do you want to build out one a year?
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What's your plan?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, I was going to say, you picked locations.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Great.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I thought maybe when I went to Love Life, it was right beside that Whole Foods, like I was saying.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Was that purposeful?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Absolutely purposeful.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That must be one of the top stores, huh?
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It is, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because it's so nice.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, I saw that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I wonder what that's going to do for business.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And you don't care.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Exactly.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That is a great—I love that point.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You're right.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You married off your daughter to the richest man in the world.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's a great one.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm just trying to think of something else I was going to ask you, which I never did before about Whole Foods, because you're a vegetarian, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Vegan.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So Whole Foods sells, of course, you know, meat and all the things not vegan.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, SaferWave.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Nobody came back.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Wow.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
No, it's not.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Okay, because the whole computer system I saw, it was really good because you can take out any ingredient.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It tells you how many calories and how much fat.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's a very savvy technology there.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Is it going out of business?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I thought they have one in La Cienega.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But you know what's interesting?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That was really popular for Hot Minute.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, it's all about protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like, I mean, if you go on Instagram, TikTok, everything's about eating more protein, protein, protein, protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Please, go ahead.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
No, in fact, actually, you also, I'm going to give you another factoid to add to that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
People's liver now more than ever is more toxic, there's more strain.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
All these liver cleanses and liver companies are coming out with things because people are eating so much protein, your body, I think, can't even digest the amount of protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, I mean, there's a whole thing right now.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You've got two camps, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You have the animal protein and you have the vegan people and they all go, they butt heads a lot.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So what do you eat?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What's your day-to-day?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What's your diet like?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
By the way, I was just going to tell you, you know, fiber, 90% of Americans don't eat enough fiber.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, really?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I just did a whole thing on fiber yesterday because I thought it's – I did a whole thing.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You can get your fiber from your vegetables and your fruit.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And whole grains and beans, yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
So that's like a total other area that people are like, their gut health is a wreck because they're not eating enough fiber.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, and antibiotics, exactly.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But I think protein though, especially at like, you know, middle age, you know, you're talking about to keep on lean muscle mass and satiate your hunger and all these things.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
There's like a huge push for protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But things in life, as you know, ebb and flow, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Now it's all about protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
In a year from now, it's going to be all about something else.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And that's what happens.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Right.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
oh my God, think about the Atkins diet.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
South Beach diet.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
South Beach diet.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Keto.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Paleo.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, it's all the same.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Carnivore diet.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's all the same.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And you know, from your Whole Foods days, I bet one of your biggest money makers was protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Anything protein.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Protein and collagen.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What else do you eat then?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
What do you eat for lunch and dinner?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Oh, gosh.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Thank you.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm not that thin.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm like normal thin, but yeah, I eat a lot of it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I don't know why people, this whole nonsense about don't eat fruit is such a load of crap.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Are you serious?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm sure.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Well, think of... I mean, listen, I totally... I would agree.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And number one, I just think that fruit is such a... It's become like this villain.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's been villainized.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's so stupid.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Number one... Because it's sugar.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because of the sugar.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I haven't seen any obese person because they ate too many grapes.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And they're very thin.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Because no matter what, like...
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's a lot.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I can do it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I know.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Although I will say, I'm like, I'm a massive eater.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I can eat four pounds of grapes in a heartbeat.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like, literally.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Probably, isn't it like a Honduran and 20?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's interesting.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I mean, are we talking seed oils?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
All oils.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Sugar's always a scapegoat, though.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But having a sugar from a Mars bar is very different than having an apple or an orange.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
No.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
See, I know you're preaching to the choir.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm a massive fruit consumer.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
In fact, I can eat, again, I was at Whole Foods, sorry to say, yesterday.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Sorry to say.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I spent like $25 on cherries.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm telling you.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
They're delicious.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I've been eating them like crazy.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
But that's my thing.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I'm not worried about getting fat from eating the fruit.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm worried about getting fat from other things, like not moving enough and having, like you said, too much oil.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
People think that, oh, I'm going to have a salad.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's very healthy.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And they're using salad dressing.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It can be 2,000 calories in salad dressing because of what we're talking about, 120 calories per
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Okay, tell me.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I love that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, it's all about the consistency.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I always try to make salad dressings.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I'm always off by a little bit.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You know what I mean?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm not good at it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm going to try one tonight.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I love that.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
100% I'm going to.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
This has been very fun.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Thank you for being on the show.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You're very interesting.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I'm so happy we finally got this on the books because I said I was very, I really wanted to interview you for so long.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I wish you so much luck with Love Life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Thanks.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's beautiful.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
By the way, guys, I went to see it, like I said just before.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's a beautiful facility.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You have everything in there.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I think it's going to do really well.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And the real big selling feature is the pickleball court because that's, of course, the most popular.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Do you like to play pickleball?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I prefer other sports, but I know that people love pickleball.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, everybody loves pickleball.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
The reason why I don't love it yet is because I'm not good at it yet.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I got to keep on playing.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I'm actually going to take, I'm taking tennis now.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It is like ping pong.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Exactly.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's what it is with any sport, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
You want to find somebody who's just as good or bad as you.
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Or just a little bit better than you.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
That's right.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I was going to say I misspoke.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's not getting someone who's worse.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's someone getting a little bit better.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And I think it's a great social thing, right?
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Like to get together and do something interactive versus just staring at each other and having a meal.
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Like playing something together.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
It's a shared experience.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I love it.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Anne.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
I totally agree.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Yeah, I totally agree.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Okay, guys, if you live in LA, check out Love Life.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
And otherwise, again, thank you for being on this show.
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Thanks so much, Jen.
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Episode 495: John Mackey: From Living Above a Store to $13.7 Billion Exit - The Whole Foods Story
Thank you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
a woman, a lady, a girl in your 40s, 50s, maybe mid-30s, I'm not sure, or late 30s, you're going to love this guest, okay?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
We have Antonio Sabato Jr.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
on the show today, who is my childhood crush of all crushes.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Well, you and Jordan Knight, like I did say that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Jordan Knight from New Kids, who maybe will come on next week.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Who knows?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Who knows?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Just quick backstory.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I got a DM from Antonio's publicist.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And he was like, hey, any interest in having Antonio on your podcast?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And I was like, I had to do a double take.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And I was like, oh, my God.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He was like my huge crush.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, absolutely.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And the guy wrote me back.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And he's like, you, like, literally everybody that he mentioned your name to in the female category was like, oh, my God, that was my big crush.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, it wasn't just me.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Is that hilarious?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And by the way, the agency seems really nice, but I don't know yet.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
We'll find out.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But okay, on this show, what we always do before we start the actual interview is we do a healthy shot.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
This is...
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yes.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So we're all about optimization, your health, wellness, blah, blah, blah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So these are by Magic Mind.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
We shake them.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
They're all adaptogens.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
The one you have, oh, I don't know.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And more focus.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, of course.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Salute.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'll keep you like super focused now.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
People are always shockingly surprised how good it is.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
No, this is really, really good.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Exactly.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And also, like I said, the ingredients are really, really, really good and good for you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And so we do it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
All right.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So now you're going to be super focused.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Now I feel stronger than ever.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Good.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'm glad.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'm glad I can be of service here for you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
All right, so let's get going here.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I've got so many questions about, like you, because I have to, it's just, why not?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I have so many questions.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I remember being really young.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But you're still young.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Thank you, you're right.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That's true.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You know, it's funny.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I feel like, you know, they always say like 40 is the new 20, 50 is the new 30.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You know, like when I walked in and I saw you, you actually have not physically aged.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You look exactly the same.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Oh, that's, that's a whole, that is the, that is the, the key to longevity and, and aging gracefully is just the momentum never stopping.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Once you stop, that's when like all hell.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I mean, listen, also like that's very inspirational, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like anyone could do it at any age for sure.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But, you know, genetics are genetics.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Right, well, nobody knows their limit.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I think it's important for people to push their limit to know for themselves.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because also that's how you build self-esteem and confidence, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
We talk about that a lot on the show, or I talk about that a lot, that when you tell somebody what you want to do or you ask for opinions, all you're going to get is their fear or their experience, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And so why would you then make your decision based on someone else's bad experience or their personal opinion?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Of course, it's the difference between doing something and not doing something.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, well, listen, that's good.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you just like it was a good segue, because I want to know what did happen to you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because I mean, yes, like when you like all I really know, I'm going to be totally honest, because I was very honest.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
The reason why I had you on the show, you're not the typical person I would put put on.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But because you are my huge crush, I'm like, how can I not say yes, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Thank you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And so, but you were massive back then.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I mean, you were like the, well, from what I remember, I was, of course, 12 years old, but the Calvin Klein model and Melrose Place were the two things that I kind of like remember the most about you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And you were, but you were like everywhere.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like you were the guy.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, I don't know, what would be the equivalent now to this?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But I want this to be put in perspective for young people who are watching this.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You were kind of like the Justin Bieber of the 90s.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You know, so- We'll start with how it happened.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, what was like, give us the evolution of who you are.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because I know you as like, when you were like a super hot model slash actor that all the girls liked.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Tell me what happened.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How did you get picked for Calvin Klein?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Sure.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What was the kind of pivotal moment in your career that you became the Antonio?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That was the first thing you got?
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That's
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right.
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Oh my God.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I love, I watched that video a million times.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That was the first thing you did.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Cause that video for sure was a beginning.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That was that, that was the pivotal because you were so gorgeous.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Not that you're not saying, I remember being like, oh my God, who is that guy in the Janet Jackson video?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
All of us were that right.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That was you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That was the pivotal moment.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
moment.
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Okay, go on.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How old were you at that video?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
They picked a 17-year-old kid to be the guy?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Wait, go back to the Janet Jackson video.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
This is very interesting.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you were only 17 years old when you got that?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And, uh, did that, did that video, once that video came out, did your phone like just go crazy?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
In New York.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And so you did it for how many years?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So why did you leave?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Right.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But how did your life case?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So did your life start to really change when you were doing General Hospital?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Tell me what happened.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I want to know all about that stuff.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But you're only on for like two years.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Two years.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so, but when you were doing that show, like what, because you're right, there was no social media and all the other stuff.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What was, what was being, like, how did you get the... I was very, I was very ahead of its game.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Why did he have you?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He knew... Women were crazy for you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do you not remember this?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Of course.
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Yeah, yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Were you the most popular one on General Hospital?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so then you went from doing two years of General Hospital, then you did the Steven Spielberg show.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And that show never took off, obviously, did it?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And you were on for how many years?
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That's it?
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I actually remember that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do you remember?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so then why did they only sign you for seven episodes for Melrose?
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No, but then why did you never go back?
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He's from General Hospital.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Was he on that show?
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I don't remember.
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So then did you ever like date?
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Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Oh, you were on that show too?
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Did you date anybody from?
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Really?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you did Melrose Place, then you went and did, okay, then what happened?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I want to know everything.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What was the biggest movie you made?
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So then, okay, so I mean, this is the nicest possible way, but what happened to you?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because you were so big and then I never heard from you again.
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So you're telling me that 2016, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That was when the first time it happened, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
10 years ago, you were basically blacklisted and gone.
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So where were you between 2008 and 2016?
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Oh, I was in California working.
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You were still making a living.
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Which ones?
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Tell me.
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You were on Cupcake Wars?
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You won that too?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Reality kind of, again, don't hate me for saying these things.
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I'm just-
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
isn't reality kind of the shows that you were doing is where people go to die, right?
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Like those are not where people, you know, who are like these world renowned, you know, Juilliard actors are going.
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What is that?
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Really?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you had a show where they basically had women buying for you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That's a funny show.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Did you go on a dinner date?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, what did you do?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, go to dinner?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, that would happen.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What was the date?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What did she get for jumping out of a helicopter?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That's a good idea, though.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Hold on a second.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So that show was like, like 15 years ago, let's say 18 years ago.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But even before that show, like, I guess this is my question.
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Did you get pigeonholed as being like the hot, you know, underwear model?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Were people even taking you seriously to even offer you?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You were still working, basically.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you always made, like, so before this whole blacklist happened and got canceled.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Right, and to do, like, okay, so tell me other reality ones.
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I'm going to go back and look.
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So you did the
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Cupcake Wars.
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That's a good one.
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You know, the stars and whatever.
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Don't tell me.
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I want to know.
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It's unbelievable.
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You really do, actually, when you say that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Could you really think about it?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like when I, when your guy was saying to me, yeah, he's doing this like celebrity boxing tournament.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'm like, hold on a second.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And I looked, I'm like, isn't it like 2025?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He must be over 50 by now.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And like, you're doing things like at like, like the gym, who does gymnastics in their thirties?
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Did you learn how to do a backflip?
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I'm working on that right now.
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See, this is amazing because this actually, when I first got here with you and you're like, yeah, age is just a number.
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I'm like, yeah, yeah, everyone just says that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But literally, it's not like, it doesn't even cross your mind that, oh, I'm 50 something, so therefore I can't do that.
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To others it does.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But I can tell even the way you're saying it that it's actually, you really believe it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, get back to the Tiger Sharks for a second at Mirage.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Are they allowed?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like if I were to call Mirage myself and be like, hey.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Aren't they lying?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Even if something happens to you, that'd be a horrible PR scandal.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But like, I'm just thinking if I was someone working at Mirage.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I was just going to say, you remind me of Tom Cruise because like he's the only other person I know who's like, he's in his sixties now.
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Yeah.
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He's fearless.
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Yeah.
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fearless did you hear what he did when it was about that that uh building out of um you know when he was in dubai yeah yeah and it was taking too long like they were giving like he didn't want to waste feel like he didn't want to waste like actual time where he could be like filming yeah so he had he taught himself how he can stay outside hanging on the on that what's that building yeah yeah the tallest building in the world in the world the tallest building in the world but what is it called because it's gonna uh
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Yeah, what's it called?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Burj Khalifa.
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Yeah, Burj Khalifa.
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He taught himself.
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They're like, I'm sorry, you can't do this.
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It doesn't occur to him to not do it.
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And also F1, like we said before we started, you know, it was like Brad Pitt doing F1.
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He was a 50-year-old guy doing it.
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And the only reason why that was real, it wasn't realistic.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
It just, it was a movie.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So that's why they allowed it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
They're like, yeah, well, there's no F1 driver on the planet who's 50 years old.
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There's not one.
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So him doing it, of course, it's Brad Pitt in a movie doing it.
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And you're saying you're going to do the same thing.
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Tell me, what is that?
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Tell us.
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No, I agree.
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It became very popular probably in the last five years in America.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, because of Netflix.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because of Netflix, right, because of the show.
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He's amazing.
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I thought they still did that because- Not to the level that they do now.
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What were they doing, like Schumacher days?
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Very skinny.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But I thought that was on purpose because they didn't want to have weight in the car.
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Remember that guy, Ricardo?
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Yeah.
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He doesn't look that small to me.
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They're not tight and toned.
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You're right.
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They're not doing the same caliber.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So what did like Schumacher do back then that they're not doing right now?
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I still see them doing that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
They put that weight plate and the thing around.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Are the other guys not doing that?
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And what is it?
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You're sitting in a- I'm sitting in a seat like this and I'm racing.
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It's like a video game.
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What about NASCAR?
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How is it different than NASCAR?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But why is that?
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But why not with F1?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Why is that?
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Yeah, I know.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What happened to Mercedes?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because Mercedes was like the leader for so many years and then they had a problem with the car.
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Oh, I see it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So how much of it is the car versus the driver?
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But Max is still focused.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Was he canceled?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Was that what happened?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, he was fired from it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Well, by the way, who's doing Mercedes now?
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Not Toto, but who's the driver?
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I know Toto's the guy.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Russell.
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Oh, wow.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
They have Russell?
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Period.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Why?
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Why do you say so?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do you think Lewis is done already or he's finished or is he going to win again eventually?
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But Lewis won like five in a row for Mercedes.
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You don't say, Antonio.
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Really?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Are you an egomaniac?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What about that guy who's, his dad bought the team?
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You know, he's driving.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What's that team called again?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
The Aston Martin.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, the Aston Martin.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Who's the guy?
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And his son is like, yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
They have to be good enough to even be there, right?
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It's going to drive me crazy now.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, it's the Aston Martin.
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His dad's a billionaire.
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You don't follow about him.
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You know I'm all about finding an edge, the small daily habits that give you more energy, focus, and resilience.
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But that's why I am hooked on monovitality.
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Most people are mineral deficient, and that means low energy, brain fog, slow recovery, and dull skin.
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But Mana flips the switch by giving your body a complete spectrum of minerals it actually knows how to use.
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We're talking Shilajit from the Himalayas, Ormus from the Dead Sea, and marine plasma from the ocean, plus amino acids and 88 other trace minerals.
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The benefits are real.
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We're talking steady all-day energy, sharper focus,
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Faster recovery, a stronger immunity, plus glowing skin.
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But the biggest win?
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It fuels your cells for real longevity.
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Think of it as like a cellular switch-on formula, not as a stimulant.
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But the raw power your body needs
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Okay, wait, let's get back to you for a second.
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I want to talk about your health and fitness regimen because obviously you're clearly very fit and you're doing the boxing.
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What is your routine?
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What do you do every day?
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What are your non-negotiables?
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Okay, I want to know just on a regular day with Antonio, and then I also want to know what you do when you're up-leveling.
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You do four hours of working out a day?
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Every day?
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I didn't notice that.
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I thought you were less than that.
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Yeah, maybe you are, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you do two hours of weight, full body every day.
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So what did you do today?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Oh, you didn't work out today.
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Oh, no, right.
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Don't tell me that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so you do four hours of working out on a regular day.
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Do you, what do you eat?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What do you eat?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What are your supplements?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But you're Italian.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And you eat, what time do you wake up in the morning?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
No, not now, when you're normal days, without training.
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So you're in the gym at your home around what, 6, 10?
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No coffee, just water.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And you feel, how did you quit?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What kind of creatine do you take?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What company?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Don't.
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It's very important to know where your supplements are coming from.
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Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'm going to give you some samples of my own of Momentous because it is- You want to sponsor me?
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Yeah, I'll sponsor you.
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Exactly.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Momentous, maybe.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Momentous, would you like to sponsor him?
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Because it's like, I think they're third-party tested and all the things.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like, you have to be careful.
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Oh, I know that.
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That girl or guy.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So, okay, are you on any testosterone, any- No.
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You don't take anything like that?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
No peptides?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How about truniogen and NAD?
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Yeah.
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Hold on.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What?
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You're waiting to see?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What are they?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
The last time you got your test.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Naturally?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because I was also, like weight training is very good for, you know, naturally increasing your testosterone.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But every day, isn't that, doesn't that also, isn't there a burnout factor because you're working out so much?
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Can it deplete?
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Yeah, me too.
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And when during the day are you doing your two hours of weights?
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What time?
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In the afternoon.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How do you have time to work out for four hours a day?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Four hours a day?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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I mean, it's funny because people make excuses.
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They can't find 10 minutes.
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So was mine.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
My first book was released in 2009 and it was called- It was called No Excuses?
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It was called No Gym Required.
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Anytime, anywhere, no excuses.
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Yeah.
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Mine is no excuses.
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Just no excuses.
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That is so funny.
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For anything.
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Okay.
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So wait.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So then eating wise, you eat a lot.
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Okay.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So what do you eat for breakfast?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And then you, how about sugar?
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How about fruit?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do you eat fruit?
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Do you have, okay, so I would imagine no alcohol.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So when were you an addict?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
At what point of your life?
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Was this when this whole Donald Trump situation happened or before then?
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So wait, so how long were you an addict for?
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How many?
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So basically, when I asked you earlier, like what happened to you, would you say that was also something that happened?
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Like you took a kind of like a hiatus because of what happened?
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What was the, I guess, the straw that broke the camel's back?
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Why did you, what was the bottom, I should say?
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because of that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Well, that's always what happens, right?
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Like your worst moment can end up being your best moment, right?
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But you don't know that at the time.
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You only know that after the fact, right?
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What brought you there?
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Like what started the drug use in the first place?
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Have you ever tried heroin?
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Never.
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How about Coke and all the other ones?
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Yeah.
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Because in those times, like back in the 90s.
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Oh, you mean Entourage.
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That wasn't Mark Wahlberg, by the way.
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Oh, right.
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It was about Mark.
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You're right.
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And Doug Yellen did it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you were Vinny, basically.
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Yeah.
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And how long did you have that life?
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None of them?
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Did you live in the hills back then, in Hollywood Hills?
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And did you have... I lived in, actually, I lived in Mariela.
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And then let me ask you something because I would imagine you made a lot of money.
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Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because you were like the guy then.
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Did you like waste it all away?
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What did you do with all that money?
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You spend it all.
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Yeah.
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So were you then when you were taking the drugs, was it because like you kind of like were at rock bottom in your life, in your career?
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What happened?
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But now you've been clean for a year or so.
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For years.
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How about, did you date any famous ladies when you were younger?
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Who did you date?
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How long did you date Madonna for?
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Ooh, a whole summer.
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How old were you?
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How old was she if you were 18?
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She was in her 30s.
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She must have been like 30.
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What is with these people?
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You were like literally a child, though.
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I know, but I want to know the tea here.
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Now we're getting to the good stuff that people are going to listen.
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to.
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Okay.
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So why did you and Madonna break up?
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Did she break up with you?
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Of course.
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What did she dare you to do?
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How long did you date her for?
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She dated, she actually ended up marrying a guy I know.
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And then what about Pamela?
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Because I mean, like certain people, like whatever, right?
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Pamela, how long did you date her for?
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She's Canadian too, so.
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Who is your favorite person that you dated in that world?
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I want to see who she is.
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I don't remember who she is.
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No, by the way, her movie Truth or Dare was one of my favorite movies ever.
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Really?
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So she was at the, she was bigger than, she was bigger than.
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She was like a spectacle.
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Yeah.
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She was so fit and she was so perfect with her like.
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Oh, do you remember?
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The private trainer.
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What I always admired about her was that she was the most disciplined, hard worker.
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You couldn't touch her in that way.
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No.
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That would be a good, like I was, that's what I was at.
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I wanted to know, because like just being around her at that time when her career was like the biggest of all time, you must have just gleaned so much information from her and learned just so much.
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Right.
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That's true.
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It's good.
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But when you have people like that around you or people that you can learn from, you should take that opportunity.
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Right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So what was the top lesson that Madonna then taught you?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I think it's also what I say is that you got to build habits, like that routine, like habits are what keep you doing a thing day in, day out, right?
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If things are not habits, it's easy to forget.
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Like you're right, brushing your teeth, like just how people brush their teeth, they should be going to the gym or they should be working out or moving their body.
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But they treat it like, you know, like it's a hassle.
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It's like a secondary thing that's completely unnecessary.
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But all that, like to me, like your exercise time or your workout should be like fundamentally primary in your day.
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You're wearing your glasses now.
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Can I see what you look like?
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You don't listen to music when you're working out?
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Oh, yeah.
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Tell me.
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Yeah.
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I want to know what your routine is when you are training.
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You told us what you do when you're off training.
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Yeah.
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Not seven?
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Do you train less when you're at camp?
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So when you're doing the six to 10 now, you're not doing the biking and all that stuff.
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You don't do that stuff.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you said, do you ever run anymore or do incline walking?
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Is it just always the bike?
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No, no, no, not for, sorry, I should, I didn't mean to.
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Yeah.
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Oh, you said only bike and bag.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so you'll either do some days you will run and not bike.
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Yeah.
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But the bag is always the same for an hour.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How long do you run for an hour?
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Oh, so the bike is a consistent thing.
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But sometimes you add in the running for a half hour.
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Because the humidity, doesn't it?
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It must be...
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a killer in there.
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That's why I hate, that's true.
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That's actually true.
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That's why I don't like going to the gym at Equinox because, sorry, Equinox, but it's always cold.
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I like to like, I hate working out in there.
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That's why I have in my house, I have like treadmills.
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Yeah.
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Right.
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How about Costa Rica?
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You love Costa Rica.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Because of that reason.
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Yeah.
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I'm going to Costa Rica actually the end of the month.
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I'm nervous.
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Yeah.
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Well, there's a lot of those gyms everywhere.
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You just have to find them.
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Cardio weight routine, yeah.
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So when you do your weights at home, you're saying you're not doing big bulky stuff, but what do you, what kind of stuff are you doing?
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So 15 to 20 only.
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And you're doing a hundred reps at a time.
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Yeah.
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I want to work out with you.
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When would you be working out here?
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Can I work out with you?
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I want to see.
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Anytime.
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You probably don't like to work out with people, I would imagine.
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It slows you down.
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I know you're actually serious.
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They would have come back the next day.
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I know.
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I just came from something and all these people were like, hey, would you work out with us?
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And I said, would you train us?
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And I'm like, well, if I train you, it's not fun and games.
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We're not going to be sitting there chit-chatting.
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We're going to go through my routine.
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And I did that.
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And lo and behold, the next day, nobody showed up again.
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No, I agree.
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Okay, tell me about your boxing, celebrity boxing tournament.
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Like, who are you boxing?
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How did you even get into this?
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Like, why did someone call you and say, hey, do you want to make some money?
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30 years ago?
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Why don't you do Jack, what's not Jack, Jacob Hall?
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You should fight him.
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And it wouldn't get ratings.
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He wants to fight Tyson.
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You know what I mean?
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Yeah.
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Because you'd kill him probably.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I think Mike Tyson was paid to take the fight.
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I mean, listen, he's making a shit ton of money, but I think either Mike Tyson was paid to like just take the, you know, just to like do it.
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And he wants the money.
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He doesn't give a shit at this point.
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To stand there.
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Right, to stand there.
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And listen, if you were to look at it, if you were to check out the footage like on slow-mo, you see he had like easy places where he could just pound the guy.
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I know.
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And he's smoking like not just a little bit.
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I mean, he's doing it like all day.
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You know, also, you know, they say now, of course, oh, all the benefits you're getting.
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But personally, I mean, I don't know how people, whenever I would like smoke marijuana or weed or whatever you want to call it, there's no chance that I would not eat 10 times my weight and calories.
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Oh, yes.
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starving, and your inhibitions are totally gone.
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Yeah.
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You'll eat everything.
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There's no way.
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Let's say I have no food around me and no vehicle, but now you can order food on your phone.
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No.
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I'd gain 100 pounds.
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I'd literally gain 100 pounds in a month.
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Absolutely.
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Because there's no stopping.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You got to eat.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I don't know how people don't.
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And also you're so lethargic.
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You're just sitting around and all you think.
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Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So you're like, okay, you know what?
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Maybe I'll like eat this, you know, bag of.
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I'm talking from my own experience.
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Yeah.
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A hundred percent agree.
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How much are they paying you for this fight?
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Not enough.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That's a good answer.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What's the precise exact amount of money?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But do you get like 10,000?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do you get 5,000?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do you get 20,000?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
50?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But why, I still don't get it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But why did they ask you?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Is it because you needed them?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I asked them.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, okay, you asked them.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Is it because you, I know it's the pride and I understand all these answers, but do you also need it for the money?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How old is the guy?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so he's 43.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, he's still old though.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I mean, when I say old, he's only 25.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Why would Mark Wahlberg, honestly, why would he get into the ring and fight you?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Why not?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because A, he doesn't need the money or the fame or the notoriety or anything.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, that's a good answer.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What about other ways you're making money currently?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You said that a couple of times.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You're a real estate agent?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You sell...
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That's great.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You know, you know, million dollar listing, they should do one and put you, well, they, you should be in one of those shows because like, I would, it would be funny to have you in one of those shows.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Or just be, I guess, no.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
She's really good.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How many houses have you sold?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How much do they go for there?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
In Tampa?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Do people say to you, oh my God, you're Antonio Sabato Jr.?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Or they're like, oh my God, it's Antonio.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like it's exciting for them, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, I want to ask you, but I kind of jumped on over it before with the Donald Trump situation.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So now when he wins again, right, 10 years later.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And now it's a whole different ballgame, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Like people have now jumped the shark, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And it's now cool to like him, right?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And it's like uncool to be on the Democratic side.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
How has that changed your life in terms of, I know you said you're not into politics, but are you involved with the MAGA and all that stuff?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Tell me what you mean by that.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because you're also in Florida, so you have nothing to do with Donald Trump at all.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
No, no.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Have you ever met the guy?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Oh, I've met him many times.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So then do you think he's doing a good job, a bad job?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I was going to say, you can hate him or love him, but the guy's a hardworking motherfucker.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But no, he does because his ego would not allow him not to.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Talk about resilience.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I mean, this guy is the most resilient person.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I have never seen anything like it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Yeah, everyone hates you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Now it's convenient to be his friend.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So people want to be his friend.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But by the way, he doesn't give a shit.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I mean, that's the thing.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
But listen, he picks people who just are yes men, who'll just like kiss his ass.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He doesn't want people in his life who are real people who tell him like it is.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He wants people who are around him who just say, yes, you're 100% right.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You're amazing.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You're wonderful.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
That's what he wants.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Smart?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Did you see the gaggle of yo-yos that he's picked to be in all these major positions?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Well, right.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
So then when you say, why is he doing it?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'll tell you why he's doing it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Because that man loves power.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He's addicted to fame and he's addicted to attention and money.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And therefore that's why he's doing it.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Well, I got to say, this was very interesting.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I'm glad I did this podcast with you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
This was really fun.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I mean, it's the person behind the face, the cute face from 1990.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
You know what I mean?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
I didn't even realize how young you were back then.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Wow.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Antonio Sabato Jr.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Okay, so you're doing your boxing match.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
What date?
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Well, thank you.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And also follow him on Instagram.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
He's on Instagram.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
And also, if you live in Tampa and want to buy a condo or a house, he's your guy.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Thank you so much.
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Episode 486: Antonio Sabato Jr.: From Teen Heartthrob to Boxing at 53 (And Why He Was Blacklisted from Hollywood)
Thank you.