Jemele Hill
Appearances
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I don't know that we have to necessarily start over, but it might have to be, it will be a black people's meeting, an important one that will be called the next day. We might have to put some things on the agenda and get it on the table.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Well, it struck me that so many people, especially in the media, have such unwavering confidence that this is going to work. And I'm not saying that it's without merit. I understand it from a purely football perspective. I understand this. Bill Belichick is arguably the greatest NFL coach in the modern day. And his accomplishments speak for themselves.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
But I just think that maybe I've been exposed to too many young people. And especially talking to other coaches about what it's like in today's day to deal with modern young athletes. And I just I just wonder how this is going to how this is going to turn out. Certainly a lot of athletes want to be professionals. They want to make it to the NFL.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
And I easily see many scenarios in which Bill Belichick is able to. as he was good at in the NFL, able to turn someone who maybe has some borderline potential into a real viable prospect. But at the same time, it's just such a different landscape. If coaches that are around his age are getting out and he's jumping in, that to me says a lot. And his last few years in New England weren't good.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
And so I just wonder if this is going to be a fit from a personality standpoint and just looking at how differently college athletics are compared to maybe 10 or 15 or 20 years ago, where if you had said Bill Belichick was going back to college, I would have said this is no brainer. A slam dunk. You know, he's going to win there in this climate. I'm not so sure.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
No, and I guess the only way she would have made Megyn Kelly matter is if she came out in support of Black Santas, because we know that Megyn Kelly only believes Santa Claus can be white. I mean, that's the person whose opinion is chiming in on this.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
So it's not surprising she would have a problem with Caitlyn Clark actually acknowledging the contributions, the sweat equity that Black women have put into this game. And you can tell a lot.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Let me just big picture this real quick, though, Dan, is that as Caitlin Clark's popularity was rising and particularly after it exploded when her and Angel Reese met in that national championship game, she did the infamous Angel Reese John Cena motion. And we saw a certain section of people galvanizing around Caitlin Clark. We saw it then and it only continued to grow. And there was a
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Nice amount of disingenuous people who were not basketball fans, certainly not women's or they were not women's basketball fans. To be clear, they were not fans of women's basketball. But Caitlin Clark became their avatar.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
She became their vessel to express a lot of the hateful and racist opinions that they had about black women, about queer women and about the WNBA overall to some degree about all women.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
so she became their sort of bat signal for that and now that we're learning more about caitlyn clark and this by the way this was not the first time she said this it may be the first time she really said it at length and because she didn't do that many one-on-ones uh this year in 2024 but she certainly have been have been she's been asked questions sort of along these same lines before and uh you know while she didn't specifically mention white privilege see she has certainly
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
always had a level of respect and reverence for the pioneers that came before i mean one of the viral moments involving caitlyn clark was when she finally met maya moore maya moore is her favorite player ever and that by the way shows the growth of the wmba you know a lot of the players that when the wmba first started they had no professional model to look at in america to say oh i grew up watching this you know professional women's player because that
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
possibility didn't exist. Caitlin Clark represents the generation that actually grew up watching the WNBA, familiarizing herself with this league, understanding the legacy and the history of this league. And all she was doing is giving a nod to that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
And she knows, like a lot of white players in the WNBA know, and they've said it, Kelsey Plum, Breanna Stewart, is that they get elevated, they get marketed, they get pushed in a way that black women in that league who have accomplished similar things do not
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Get the same endorsement opportunities, the same marketing, the marketing riddle of the WNBA prior to this moment has been how do you market a league that is 70 percent black where a third of the players identify as queer? How do you do that? And that it has been a lot of marketing challenges. mistakes the WNBA has made in trying to sort of minimize that part of their identity.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Or, you know, a lot of people have certainly for years speculated that they push certain players because they're trying to kind of galvanize and interest white America with players they believe that they will get behind. So this has been a long standing conversation in the WNBA. And Caitlin Clark, in her sense of leadership, I mean, she just stated the obvious.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
And now she has some very predictable people angry at her because they never were fans of hers. They just like the idea of weaponizing her success against other black women who they can't stand.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I have a black Santa and a black Mrs. Claus in my house. I think that doesn't surprise many people.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Jamel has black Santa.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
You have original recipe, Santa?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
You had- Well, I got spicy Santa.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
And Robert F. Kennedy, right?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I mean, but would it have been so bad if he said, you see the money, right? I mean, would that have been?
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I think it is. But it's not a gotta blow it all up and completely restart from scratch. We're not the Cowboys for crying out loud. You know what I'm saying? But I think it does signal that for this iteration of this team, this feels like the end. They got some major decisions to make. How much to pay Brock Purdy. Can't take advantage of getting him on the cheap. Decisions to make about Deebo.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I mean... About the defense. So I think there's going to be some serious retooling in the offseason. They can't afford to play Brock Purdy what quarterbacks are worth that have accomplished what he's accomplished.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
All of it depends on how much is Brock Purdy going to cost. That's really, truly the million-dollar question.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Well, I think he deserves a competitive, really good quarterback salary. Does he deserve Dak Prescott money? Hell, it's questions about whether Dak Prescott deserves that kind of money.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I will say this. If we can keep, it would be great if we could keep that price tag between, and I know this sounds ridiculous, but between 40 and 45, that'd be great if we could keep it.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I mean, it would be great if we could. I'm not saying, he's clearly better than Daniel Jones. He's better than Trevor Lawrence. I get it. But like, for the entire engine of this team to work... Once we start talking in the 50s and certainly anywhere near 60 million, okay, we in trouble. You can't pay him that.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Wow, that. Dan, I feel like I'm joining a cult right now. I have no idea what's going on.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I thought it was a weak move. First of all, he already knew the reason that he was in that position was because of, you know, Dre Greenlaw being out. So he knew he was he was in a unique situation. So if this issue was about, you know, him, the playing time, it's like that was your reality when. You knew that was your reality from the start.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
But I think it's just, unfortunately, it's just a window into this season. You know, the 49ers have had an incredible amount of luck to go along with their skill and obviously the winning. But you got to stay healthy in this league. You got to keep drama out the locker room. And this was not the year Unfortunately for that, everybody got hurt.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
There's now, you know, even before this week, you had drama with Brandon Ayuk's contract situation, drama with Deebo Samuel last week complaining about not getting the ball enough. And unfortunately, he had the performance that he had against the Rams. So this was the season that all those things that can derail other teams came bubbling to life for them.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
But what was clear in hearing Kyle Shanahan and other players talk about it afterwards is that You know, he has lost, Campbell lost a lot of people's respect in that locker room. I mean, you have a lot of guys who have a lot of things on the line.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
And it's difficult to get these opportunities in the NFL for somebody to willingly tap out and to do that to your teammates in a nationally televised game. It's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed for him.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Well, he did ask Black Jesus to deliver him from pick sixes. That's what I'm saying.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Ooh, I'll kick that one. No, I'm sorry. That's not yours.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
I'm aware, but you know... Y'all will never make me hate Kirk Cousins because he went undefeated against Michigan when he played for Michigan State, my alma mater. I'm going to keep this, I believe. Come on, Falcons.
The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz
The Big Suey: Caitlin Clark Is Time's Athlete Of The Year (Feat. Jemele Hill)
Okay. A part of me hopes I lose because I'd love to be in costume. That'd be pretty hilarious. I got some ideas already. All right, great. I know Kirk Cousins is going to pull it off. So thank you all. Good to see you.