Jason

Well, what's driving... I mean, I understand populism.

I understand trying to buy votes.

But what at the core, in your opinion, drives these individuals who think that not learning to sustain yourself in society and to get all of these freebies...

What's in their mind?

What are they missing about just the basic human condition that we have to work for stuff?

The human operating system is we need challenges.

And when you don't have purpose in life, it's a road.

That's the primrose path.

It's not a good place to go.

I don't mind.

It's devil's playground, as my grandmother would say.

Let's go to that.

Which group hates each other more, Democrats or Republicans?

I was going to say, like, which one hates each other more?

know as we get towards the end of our time i want to talk to you a little bit about how dysfunctional and unpopular uh the democrats and republicans have been the last couple of years since nixon uh i think trump's first and second term both uh you know 30 you think about 37 approval rating right now uh biden ended with like 34 he was averaging about 40 people really are not happy with their choices

And there's a no labels group.

I've been kind of mocked and dismissed here on this very podcast talking about I think there's a perfect time for a third party.

And, you know, we had Ross Perot.

People forget he got 19%, I believe, of the popular vote.

You are in my camp.