Jason Jorjani
Appearances
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Which requires what? It requires a massive state security and classification apparatus to be put in place, right? Which is unconstitutional, according to our constitution. Government of the people, by the people, for the people. There was that thing, the Bill of Rights, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So on the one hand, we're bringing all this technical expertise and the projects they're working on were things they were doing in concentration camps. So we need classification for that. On the other hand, the saucer crashes, and it looks weird. We don't know what it is. Maybe it's alien. We don't know what. But it's definitely a threat to national security.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And moreover, the thing crashed next to our only nuclear base at the time. And it's got maybe some deformed children in it. And it's got all this super advanced technology, but still stuff we can understand that we were already working on. Mm-hmm. So you also need security classification for that. So here we have the National Security Act of 1947, which effectively creates the deep state, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But let me, okay, so, all right, I'll finish this point and then I'll go back to talking about the saucer as an engineering design and where it came from. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This deep state was already so autonomous from the civilian government of the United States, including our Defense Department, that when von Braun's team was working on the early rockets, the adaptation of the V-2 into a ballistic missile in the 1950s in Texas—
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
the Pentagon officials found out that the Germans were taking classified information to the border and meeting with Nazi officials coming from Argentina and Chile and Paraguay, meeting them in border towns in Mexico, right on the Texas border, and giving them classified information from inside of our programs. So they confronted the German scientists about this, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
They were going to like chastise them, whatever. I don't know. What could they do? Revoke their clearances? Who's going to build this shit, right? But, you know, they get on their case about it. Guess what the next thing that happens is? Oops, the Germans misdirected their missiles and they landed in Mexico. They shot some ballistic missiles into Mexico.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
As a way to say to the Pentagon, don't fuck with us. You fuck with us again, we'll start a war with Mexico. So already by the 1950s, they had their hands on the balls of the U.S. government to that extent.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This is why you have Eisenhower coming out and making that statement as he leaves office, warning about the military-industrial complex that's gotten out of hand, and they're a threat to our democratic society, etc. Because he knew this stuff. And I'm convinced the main reason, now Kennedy made a lot of enemies for a lot of reasons. The Kennedy brothers did.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
versus his interpretations of those testimonies, which is being filtered through his own worldview and ideology, and then furthermore, his own personal experiences. Because Greer came out like, what was it, 20 years ago, saying he himself was a contactee, I think from childhood. And he started doing these CE5 protocols for summoning entities and so forth, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Because they were, you know, engaged in prosecuting the mafia and, you know, there was the whole Cuban angle with the Bay of Pigs fiasco. But I'm convinced that the main reason the JFK was killed is that Eisenhower handed this information off to him. The UFO stuff. The whole deep state problem. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And said to him, listen, man, you have to get this under control because these people pose an existential risk to our constitution and our way of life. And Kennedy was going to shut them down. And even after he was executed, his brother would have pursued the same policy. So they were both taken out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And I've heard RFK on record in interviews say that he believes that his father was killed by a Lockheed contractor, specifically a Lockheed contractor. Now, why would a Lockheed contractor assassinate Robert Kennedy? There's only one explanation you can come up with for that. Now, this is the place to go back to the saucers. Okay. Lockheed Martin used to be called Martin Aircraft. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In 1953, there were all these stories that came out in mainstream news publications about how These aerospace, they were called aircraft companies in those days. Aircraft companies have developed the G engine. And they're about to roll off the assembly line craft that can defy gravity and get you like from New York to Australia in an hour. There are all these stories about this stuff.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they quoted the chairman of Martin Aircraft, Lear. Convair, a bunch of companies, a handful of companies. And the only one of those that's still active in the defense industrial scene is Martin Aircraft, which became Lockheed. Okay? Okay. And then by 1955 or so, the story disappears. The story disappears.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And it's at the same time, between 53 and 55, where these chairmen of these aeronautical engineering companies are making these statements, that you have physicists holding conferences about cracking gravity.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So the United States cracked gravity circa 1955. Right. Townsend Brown was also developing this polarization effect.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The other company... that has some of this tech is Northrop, which designed the B-2 bomber.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Which some people say the B-2 is a reference to the Brown-Byfield effect. Right. That can basically augment the propulsion of an aircraft by lowering the effect of gravity on the aircraft. Yeah, with ion wind.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so by 1955, they figured this shit out. Mm-hmm. and then went black. Now, let me ask you something. If we're looking at Kevlar, Velcro, night vision, lasers, transistors, and we see that in all these areas, Nazi Germany was about a decade ahead of us. And we cracked electro-gravitics in 1955. When did they crack it? There are reports that, okay, so there was a think tank in Prague
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Under the direction of General Hans Kammler. It was a Nazi scientific working group. And I think it was based in Prague because they were collaborating with the Italians on this. Italians were junior partner and they wanted a country that was sort of nominally not Germany, right? Basically under Nazi control. And there are people who claim that Otto Skorzeny, remember Otto Skorzeny?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So there's a great deal of difference between those kinds of claims versus... And amassing testimony from basically expert witnesses.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He came to the facility in Prague in 1944, toward the war's end. And he saw that the scientists working under General Kammler had developed a circular disc-shaped airframe. that was tremendously aerodynamic in its performance. And it had a number of interesting features to it. One is it had these vents that suction the boundary layer.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's called suctioning the boundary layer, where air resistance develops around the edges of any airframe, like an airplane or anything that has sharp edges to it. And so, first of all, by making a saucer-shaped craft, you're already reducing air resistance. Then they had suction vents that would suck in the boundary layer and redirect that airflow into the propulsion system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
they also developed a kind of metal that was perforated. They called it Luftschwamm, flying foam. And it was a special kind of metal that had lots of tiny holes in it. They would also allow air to pass through. It was a very light metal, which further reduced air resistance. The same think tank, the Kammlerstab, Kammler staff in Prague, was working on this 9 to 12 foot
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This one is an overview of my work in terms of the original concepts that I've developed, Philosophy of the Future was. And this one, Metapolemos, is in terms of the different domains of philosophical thought. So they're kind of good companion volumes for one another. And they're either a really good introduction to my work as a whole or a kind of executive summary.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
tall, acorn-shaped or bell-shaped reactor. The Nazi bell. Yes, it was a mercury-thorium reactor whose purpose was to generate more energy than is put into it. It was constantly powered by AC energy with big cables and intermittently shocked with direct current. And it would rotate, counter-rotate, drums filled with mercury and thorium isotope inside of the shell of this device.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Right. And I find the, you know, the stuff he did early on to be much more convincing and much more solid.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And what they realized in the Kammlerstab was we could take this thing and put it inside the saucer. Originally, the saucers were powered by rotating jets. And so we could take this magnificently aerodynamic airframe and take this reactor and put it inside it as a power source. And there's your electrogravitic saucer. Invented in Nazi Germany, 1944-45.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We cracked the same engineering problems and propulsion issues in 1955. So what does that tell you about all the rest of the stuff that was discovered in Roswell? It fits the pattern of the Nazis cracking this a decade earlier than we were there, scientifically and technologically.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And by the time we were there in 55, this deep state run by Nazis already had its hand around the balls of the civilian government of the United States and had already set up the national security state to sequester this information.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, I mean, Ian Fleming was an intelligence operative at a very high level. He was involved in surveilling Martin Bormann. I think Ian Fleming was involved in the operation of tracking and surveilling Martin Bormann, who was Hitler's chief financier. He was the money man of the Reich. And Bormann died three times. There's three different accounts of this guy's death. Faking his death? Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I mean, twice wasn't enough. There's three different accounts of this guy's death, right? We have to be convinced he's dead. Except that from his, from, you know, beyond the grave, he writes a check in his own name through Chase Manhattan Bank in Argentina in 1975. So Martin Bormann is still alive in 1975, writing checks for huge amounts through Chase...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I don't know. But I'll tell you what I found very interesting about some of that early testimony. There was this one case, and here we're going to get into a case of murder also. Let's do it. There was this one case of this – I think he was sergeant.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
By the way, a bank whose logo is a swastika. Pull it up. Take a good look at the Chase logo. Put Chase logo swastika. Take a look at that. And who founded Chase? J.P. Morgan. J.P. Morgan was business partners. With the Dulles brothers.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes. Keep going down. There's better depictions.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, it's a good question. The Ford Motor Company also had a swastika in its logo before it became politically incorrect. Ford was a big supporter of the Nazis. Ford loved the Nazis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes. That we were, he was building tanks that we were blowing up on the battlefield for the Nazis. Ford was a virulent anti-Semite. He put copies of the protocols of the elders of Zion in the early Ford cars that were manufactured. You could like find it in the glove compartment.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, Ford Motor Company.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
No, that is a Ford Motor Company. Ford Motor Company. That was their logo? Yes, that's their logo. What? I'm telling you, the guy... Listen.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Ford... I found better ones of it before. I've put them in other interviews I've done. If you can find the drawing, that's... That's Coke. No, that's not it, dude. Anyway, look...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He was such a rabid anti-Semite. You know what the Protocols of the Elders of Zion is? It was a document about how Jews have a conspiracy to control the whole world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He took copies of that, mass printed them, and would put them in the glove compartments of the cars that he sold to people just so he could make sure everybody could read it. Big supporter of Hitler. So, okay, but this is putting our finger on something important about this, which I was trying to get at with Chase. J.P. Morgan, based in New York, was business partners, Morgan Jr., J.P.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Morgan Jr., was business partners with the Dulles brothers, Alan Dulles becomes the head of the CIA, and Rockefeller. And these three together, Morgan, the Dulles brothers, and Rockefeller funded the rise of Nazi Germany from America. And they funded Mussolini too. So point being, there was already an American power base for the Nazis before the war. You see?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So they had the connections already to fall back on, including people at the level of Rockefeller and Morgan. To help them move money. Why is Chase clearing a check written by Martin Bormann, who died three times? Why in 1975 are they still clearing checks written by this guy? Yeah. From Argentina.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, Sergeant Carl Wolf, who, although he wasn't fairly high-ranking, I mean, you know, this is how compartmentalized information works in the military. You can be a relatively low-ranking person, but if you have technical expertise in a particular area, you have to be given a high-level security clearance because you need to work on some technical aspect of a very sensitive subject.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, in 19... 38. I think it was 38, 37, 38, something like that. The Germans engage in this massive expedition to Antarctica.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
it's been debated why did they go down there what were they really you know going down there for i mean the simplest explanation is they had a world-class navy and they wanted to build a naval base in uh antarctica and but they brought a bunch of scientists with them and did excavations actually one of the craziest things that they did is
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
They flew over the ice sheet going up the, you know, trans-Antarctic mountains are huge. They're like the Himalayas. They flew along the side of these mountains and they dropped swastika flags from out of airplanes to claim the territory.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So today in Antarctica, if you go to trans-Antarctic mountains, there are frozen swastika flags all along the mountainside claiming the territory for Nazi Germany. Anyway, Rudolf Hess was sent down there. Antarctic, Deutsche Antarctic Expedition.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Good question. I mean, he was a military man. High level military man. But good question, what was he doing? Because here's what happens. Comes back from Antarctica, this Hess, right? Takes an unauthorized flight from Germany into Britain while the British are at war with the Germans already. So they're already like... I don't know if the Blitz had started yet, the bombing of London.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But they were already at war with the British, right? So Hess gets in a plane, flies by himself to Britain, lands in a field, and he's arrested. And he says, take me to Winston Churchill. Take me to Winston Churchill. Two years earlier, he was in Antarctica. Churchill refuses to see Hess. Yes. And then they come back to him and say, Churchill won't see you.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He's like, well, I'm here to engage with like 30 members of your parliament who are interested in resolving our differences. Now, what historians won't tell you is that Hitler made like three or four peace offerings to the British before he declared war on them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Not just peace offerings, he made offers to collaborate with the British Royal Navy and become basically military allies. They turned down all these offers. So Hess says, I'm here to make another offer to your people in the House of Lords. So he had the numbers already, right? There was a list of British politicians who this guy... Knew would be sympathetic.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So when Churchill turns and dies, so what do the British do? Churchill doesn't let him talk to these parliamentarians. They throw Hess in prison and he stays there for decades and decades. And then after the Berlin Wall comes down, you know, once Germany becomes democratic, reunification of Germany.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He was transplanted to a German prison, Hess. And no one was allowed to talk to him ever again for the rest of his life until he died. Why did he go to Britain two years after being in Antarctica? What was he going to tell the British about Antarctica? What might've been found there? You know? What do you think? And why did, why wasn't he allowed to talk to anybody for the rest of his life? Right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So it's interesting.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, if you believe the empirical case that's been made for Atlantis in Antarctica, which Graham Hancock made in Fingerprints of the Gods, his first book, working off of the research of Charles Hapgood and Rand Flemeth. And Colin Wilson also at one point found this theory compelling when he wrote one of his books on Atlantis. That the only landmass that fits Plato's description is Antarctica.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So in the case of Carl Wolf, he was a photographic technician and repairman. And I think it was 1965, so a few years before we went to the moon, right? We've got the Lunar Reconnaissance Orbiter going around the moon preparing for the Apollo mission. And Carl Wolf is called in, in his capacity as a photo technician, photographic repairman, he's called in to...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Plato describes an island the size of Libya and Asia combined, of Asia and Libya combined. In the Greek world in that time, in Plato's time, that was a description for a territory roughly the size of the first Persian Empire. The first Persian Empire is about the size of the continental United States, a little larger than that. Well, that's the size of Antarctica.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Moreover, Plato said that Atlantis was in the world ocean. Well, what does that mean, the world ocean? He said it was outside the pillars of Hercules, which means the Strait of Gibraltar. But he didn't say it was in what's now the Atlantic. You know, people get this ass backwards. The Atlantic is named after... Atlantis, it's named after Atlas, not the other way around.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's not like Atlantis had to be in the Atlantic because it's the Atlantic. So people named, in other words, the Atlantic the Atlantic because they imagined Atlantis had been there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Named after the Titan Atlas.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But what Plato says is outside the Pillars of Hercules, outside the Strait of Gibraltar, in the world ocean. Well, what's the world ocean? There is one. There's a world ocean. It's where the Atlantic, the Pacific, and the Indian Ocean all meet in a single body of water in the shoreline of Antarctica. How would they get into a war with Athens all the way down there?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
They had conquered and were controlling the entire planet. So the Greeks think they're all so important. Like Atlantis came here and fucked with us. Atlantis fucked with everybody. It was a global civilization. It's a civilization that used those 1,300 ton stones at Baalbek. A global technical civilization. So, first of all, the only landmass that fits the size is Antarctica.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Second, it's in the right place. It's in the world ocean. Third, Plato said that when you go to Atlantis, you can come from one side of the world, like South Africa, and cross over Atlantis and you're on the other side of the world. Where else fits that bill than Antarctica? Where you go across Antarctica and you can go from South Africa to South America. Okay?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Moreover, if you look at the research of Charles Hapgood, who was a—actually, he was a historian, but he started to develop interesting geophysical theories, and he worked on contract for the CIA for a while. He was a history professor, but he had classified clearances, and he worked with the CIA.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he developed this theory of earth crustal slippage, that when you look at the flash-frozen mammoths in Siberia, who were frozen with the food undigested in their stomachs— and certain other things, it looks like the crust of the Earth slipped by several thousand miles suddenly. And this is why we have stories from various tribes who say that the stars fell.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Earth crustal slippage is this technical term for this particular theory. Earth crustal slippage, Charles Hapgood. And if that theory is correct... And that's how the mammoths were flash frozen in Siberia. And the food that we found undigested, frozen in their stomachs, is food of a temperate climate. Okay? So it means that Siberia used to have a temperate climate.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It was suddenly pulled toward the polar region, the north polar region.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It happens because during ice ages... the earth gets top-heavy from all the ice that's weighing down the crust. So it causes it to slip at a certain point. And the fact that the food in the mammoth stomachs is food from a temperate climate means that Siberia was suddenly pulled into the northern polar region. If you look at Antarctica...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And you look at how Siberia slipped, it means as Siberia slipped suddenly into the northern polar region, Antarctica slipped suddenly by several thousand miles into the southern polar region. So about two-thirds of Antarctica would have been where Argentina is today. Argentina is a great place. Great agriculture, great wine, great livestock.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Atlantis would have been very habitable if Atlantis were Antarctica before the crustal slippage. So Hess, what did Hess know?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
What they told him was an NSA facility. And I think he was stationed in Langley Air Force Base at the time. And they say, you know, we need you to come over to this NSA facility and work on this photographic processing machine. In 1965, nobody knew what the fuck the NSA was. It was so secret that people didn't even know it existed. So Wolf assumed that it was a NASA facility.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay. I mean, Plato's dates line up with a lot of other evidence that points to about 10,500 BC or 12,000 years ago. 12,500.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
thousand years ago this is also when people hypothesize the younger dryas cosmic impact theory would have happened to which a lot of people think that the mammoth being frozen was from a cosmic impact that basically blacked out the sky and that's an alternative hypothesis in any case in any case antarctica fits plato's description of atlantis best and so if you were to ask me what it has on the nazis in general find in antarctica they found atlantis
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
and they were obsessed with atlantis the entire nazi elite which came from out of the occult vril society and the thula gesellschaft the thula is a german equivalent of atlantis ultima thula it's a land mass At the north of the world, a vast landmass at the north of the world. Now, we don't have any landmass at the north of the world, but what is the north of the world?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The magnetic poles shift like every, I forget what it is, 23,000 years or something like that?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's migrating right now.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, which means a reversal is about to happen again. So when the Germanic people preserved this ancient myth that there was this Ultima Thula, a huge continent at the north of the world, it's probably dating from a time when the poles were reversed. Antarctica was the northern polar region and vice versa, magnetically.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So the Nazis were obsessed with finding Thula or Atlantis and they may have hit jackpot. circa 1938.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, there's evidence the Nazis were there. I mean, look up Operation High Jump. 1946, Admiral Byrd went down there with a whole fleet and they were supposed to be on an expedition that lasted months. And they ran into something that devastated the fleet and they retreated very quickly.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And on his way back to the United States, they stopped at some port in Chile, I think, and Byrd made this bizarre statement about how we have to prepare in the next world war to encounter aircraft that can cross from pole to pole with amazing speed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, let me answer in two ways.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
My first answer is that it could be that Plato never existed. We can completely disregard Plato. The evidence for Atlantis is overwhelming. Don't call it Atlantis. By the way, I'm pretty sure the Atlanteans didn't call it Atlantis. They probably had some other name for it, right? Other than Plato, what is the most compelling evidence? There's so much compelling evidence.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I mean, first of all, the megalithic structures that have inexplicable engineering skill behind them. In Egypt? On every continent. It's everywhere. Look at Tiwanaku in Bolivia, the Kalasasia at Tiwanaku in Bolivia. Some of the older sites in Mexico, in the Yucatan.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He heard NSA as NASA. Okay. And it also makes sense in terms of what he saw when he got there, which is... that when he walked into this place, first of all, he saw scientists from all around the world. And he could tell because they were of various ethnicities. He saw Japanese people, Indian people, people from multiple countries speaking multiple languages, European languages.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
All of these sites exhibit the same enigmatic, Sacsayhuaman is another one, Oleontotambo, the walls at Sacsayhuaman and Oleontotambo are made of insanely gigantic megalithic blocks.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
which intersect with the blocks next to them, sometimes at 12 different points of intersection, which means that either they had a way to liquefy stone and mold it as they were putting stones together, or something even more mind-boggling, the stones were all pre-cut, like jigsaw puzzle pieces, and then put in exactly the right place.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, either of those are insane from an engineering perspective. I mean, even we won't do that. We won't. Maybe we can just barely now, but no one in our world would ever think to try to do something like that. And by the way, that type of building, it turns out it's extremely earthquake resistant.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Because it wobbles and then locks back into place.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. And some of these blocks, like the ones at Baalbek, 1,200 ton stones, 19 cranes can't lift those things. 19 industrial cranes. Who did that? Yeah. All right, so look, it's written in stone.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
By the way, other cultures have other names for it. Not all cultures call it Atlantis. You find this in almost every civilization in the world, that there's a myth about a super civilization that existed in antiquity and that the people who lived there were demigods, that they were godlike people. who then disseminated knowledge to other primitive cultures in the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You find this basic myth in the Mayans, you find it in the Egyptians, you find it in the Middle East. In Iranian civilization, which is something I'm very familiar with, I wrote a whole tome on the history of Iran. In ancient Iranian culture, they called this place Aryanam Va'eja, which means the seed cradle of the Aryans. meaning where the Aryan race came from. That's what they say.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they say it was a place. This is a very interesting detail. So you have all these flood myths around the world. And the flood myths are connected to the myth of the destruction of the super civilization. In all these cultures, including Mayan culture, Egyptian culture. The one exception is Iran. Iran, we talked about this first time, first interview. Iran, the name means Aryan.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's a Middle Persian form of the ancient Persian Aryan or Aryana. The Iranian ancient mythology is the only one that says the super civilization wasn't destroyed by a flood. It says our homeland froze. Our homeland was an island at the center of the world. It was the central continent of the world, which is what Antarctica looks like.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, you make a globe centered on Antarctica. You take a globe and you flip it, so you're looking right at Antarctica. It looks like the continent at the center of the world if you live there and you're mapping the world from your perspective. So they say it was a continent at the center of the world, and all of a sudden it froze over.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You're talking about the subglacial topography of Antarctica.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, no, that's what you want to look at. Look up subglacial topography, Antarctica. They have found maps, like the Orontius Phineas map and the Piri Reis map, which show Antarctica underneath the ice. No one in recorded history ought to have been able to map that landmass subglacially. Look how big that shit is. Yeah. Well, it's larger than the continental United States.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I'm sure there's a few Germans in there. Probably more than a few. And so he's taken into the photo lab, right? And there's another guy in there who's the same rank as him, I think also a sergeant. And before he gets to work on repairing this machine, this sergeant, and the two of them are in there alone, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes. The closest point to any land is in Argentina. You think that's a coincidence? Do you think it's a coincidence that when the Nazis went to Argentina, that where they went was San Carlos de Bariloche? That's Patagonia. It's the southernmost point of Argentina that's close to Antarctica. Very convenient.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He lived into the 1960s. Into the 60s. And he died of Parkinson's related, you know, people in Argentina describe having seen him with very bad Parkinson's. He had lost the mustache.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And... He lived, I think, a very miserable life. Because, and this is an important little anecdote, because it says a lot about Spectre. Yeah. Or as they called it themselves, Die Spinner. Their name for it was the spider. Die Spinner, the spider. The post-war Nazi international. largely based in the United States and Argentina.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So an anecdote about the Hitler thing is when you look at Martin Bormann and his financial machinations in Latin America in the 19, from the 50s to the 70s, and you look at Otto Skorzeny and how he was operating at an international level in that same time period.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It seems that if Hitler survived decades past the end of the war, which there's evidence he did, he wasn't doing anything important. I think the guy was put out to pasture. I think basically they said to him, you know, thank you very much, Herr Hitler, but please paint your sunsets. Go back. You wanted to be a painter, right? Enjoy painting your sunsets. We've got everything under control, sir.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We've got everything under control. And eventually Eva Braun even left him. And so I think the guy lived a pretty desperate and miserable life, having been given the cold shoulder by the people who were actually in charge of what they were conceiving of as a coming fourth Reich. People like Bormann, Skorzeny, younger, more shrewd, competent people. And people with a more... dynamic vision.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I'll give you an example, which really is a mindfuck. There's a lot of evidence that Skorzeny played a huge role after the end of the war in tactical operations for these people. Remember, Skorzeny was the guy who thought of using saucers in the 50s as part of a PSYOP against America. Same Otto Skorzeny, fencing scar guy, died in 1975. Shortly before he died in the early 70s, he worked with Mossad.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This sergeant can't help himself, and he breaks protocol, and he shows Carl Wolf the photographs that have been coming off this machine he was brought in to repair. And they're mosaic photographs where the orbiter will take a bunch of images, a bunch of shots, and then they'll lay them next to each other and form a mosaic of a larger site that's been targeted for satellite photography.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, I think Eichmann was prosecuted because he ceased to be useful. Right. He probably pissed off the wrong guy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they said, okay, give him to the Israelis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, that's a complex question, right? A multi-part question. First of all, how are they crashing these things with psychic abilities? Well, consider this. If the pilot is part of the guidance system of a UFO and the pilot is integrated into the airframe psychokinetically, if you fuck with the pilot's mind, you're going to crash the airframe.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So you had a powerful enough psychic get into the head of a UFO pilot. Right. Okay. You can bring a saucer down.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
One of these Nordics, you know, in some cases with a bunch of these gray robots on board who handle the abductees. The Nordics don't like to handle the abductees. Right. Because you see this in the Travis Walton case. Travis Walton case, they sent the robots to deal with him.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Then he beat up the robots. Right. big strapping guy that he was, beat up the robots, right? And he went out into the hallway, and then the Nordics were like, man, we got to deal with this guy. We got to deal really seriously. We have to deal with this guy now. So it's like they used the Greys. And then Whitley Strieber.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So Whitley Strieber, look, he's very clear that the people, the people who put the implant in were people, European-looking people. Mm-hmm. Two guys and a woman who came into his house. One stayed outside or something. Two of them came in and they did this thing. Put the implant in his ear. People.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
There's a Nordics. They use the greys to handle terrified abductees because who wants to do that job?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I read his work like 20 years ago or something like that. It's been a very long, but when I read it, I really read it. Like I read most things.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, yeah, because I mean, it was horrific child abuse managed by Nazis. In Mexico. They had a huge presence in Mexico. Remember what I was saying earlier?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Is that paperclip rocket scientists would come to the border towns between Texas and Mexico and do data drops, handing classified information to their fellow Nazis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yep.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Who operated more freely in Mexico and throughout Latin America.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So MK ultra was like the light, the Bud light version. They had shit before MK ultra that was even worse. Bluebird and other things before that, that are basically extensions of the experiments on children that were done in concentration camps. That's what it is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay. Now, I heard this very clearly. He has this Dreamland radio program. Yeah. It's been going on for, I don't know, 25 years or something like that. I heard him describe this in detail. So I don't know whether he wants to now not talk about it or say something. It was another way, but I remember very clearly what he described. And he did this in more than one conversation.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Once might have been a monologue and once was in an interview with somebody. And he basically said they were taken to a mansion in Mexico that was run by the same people as this Nazi doctor in Texas associated with Randolph Air Force Base. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the sergeant says, we found a city. And he starts showing him these mosaics, putting them next to each other. And they're high-resolution photographs of a megalithic city on the dark side of the moon. Spherical buildings, polygonal buildings, obelisks like the needles in Egypt, and dishes, he said, that looked like radio telescope dishes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he said they were put in, these children were put in situations where they were shown mutilated bodies and horrific sounds were played to them in the dark and they were made to believe that they had killed these people. Mm-hmm. Okay. Put in cages, shown mutilated body parts, exposed to chainsaws, made to hold chains, like just horrific shit.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's basically meant to produce extreme dissociation and a fragmentation of the psyche.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Dissociation combined with absorption. These are two somewhat counter-intuitively connected psychological processes. One, dissociation because you don't want to deal with a traumatic situation. And second, absorption, extreme attention. And you would think like these are opposite things. But there's a way to induce dissociation more or less simultaneously with absorption.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the state of mind that that produces is extremely psi-conducive. Wow. So you might perceive things that other people don't perceive. Right. And you might be able to unconsciously exercise abilities that other people, that are only latent in most people. Okay. So that's what it is. It's a catalyzing of dissociation and absorption.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Here's one of my problems with Whitney's account, okay, is that he says that while one of these greys was on top of him, and I believe this was in his cabin. Right. He says this grey's on top of him. I won't get into the details, but he said in the moments where he could even focus on anything but her, he sees that there's all these people standing around in the cabin room.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And one of them is a CIA officer. Right. Who he knew and recognized. Right. Okay. I mean, does that mean that there's some agreement between some of the grays and the CIA? Maybe. Or does it mean that he was given drugs and there was some elaborately staged scenario. Right. Where he was made to believe that. Right. It was an encounter. Yeah. I don't know. Take your pick.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In any case, it doesn't look good. It doesn't look good. No, it does not look good.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Good. So the cover of my new book is still up there. Well, at least part of the cover. It's called Metapolemos. Metapolemos, it's Uberkampf in German, sort of super war. And it refers to a metaphysical ontological idea, destructive departure and worldview warfare, which is kind of my reverse engineering of the basic concept behind the breakaway civilization.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
My reverse engineering, the concept that motivates their activities. And that's a huge breakthrough in understanding the nature of psychological warfare. But it's basically, as I said at the outset, No, no, no. That's Philosophy of the Future.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the reason that there's a similarity in cover is that I intend Metapolemos.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
No, no, no. Satanion is my last book.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I write at a rather rapid pace. So Satanion came out in November.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We're recording now in February. February.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
End of February. So my latest book, the one that you have the cover up there on, part of the cover, is going to be out within, let's say, two, three weeks. Okay. And the reason that the, yeah, if you can put the whole cover up there, it'd be good.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Anyway, the reason the cover has a similarity to the graphics for Philosophy of the Future is that it's meant to be a kind of companion volume to this. In Philosophy of the Future, I present an overview of my entire philosophical project in terms of my original concepts. And in Metapolemos, I give an executive summary of my whole project, but in terms of the different domains of philosophy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So my thoughts, yeah, there it is. My thoughts in the domain of ontology, my epistemology, my view on ethics, aesthetics, and political philosophy. So it's divided up into those domains and gives you either an introductory overview or a kind of executive summary of my philosophical project.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The last thing I want to say about this book is that I've included in this book, which is now, I think, my 14th book, journals which I wrote 20 years ago. So back when I was, you know... reading Whitley Strieber 25 years ago, whatever, 20 years ago.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Huge structures, which I guess the resolution of the photographs was so good that he could tell that they weren't made of metal. They were made of something like a poured stone, kind of like concrete, which is interesting because a lot of ancient sites on Earth are made from that type of material, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He sent me a photo of you guys when you were- That was when I, exactly. That's when I met Jack Sarfati.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, that's right. So back in those days, for about three years, I kept a journal. It was a black notebook. And it's really the matrix of my philosophical thought. It's the substrate from out of which my ideas emerge. The genesis of my career as a philosopher is in those notebooks.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And I've included a pretty large selection of the entries from in there, which is a very dangerous and revealing thing to do. And it'll give people a lot of insight into what motivated my philosophical project.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's a UFO, but it's interesting.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I thought it was Saturn. But it's interesting that it read as Saturn to you.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, that's interesting because Saturn is Kronos. And the Nazis called the Bell Project, Project Kronos. Our project time. Wow. The Saturn project.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Thank you, Danny. It's been a pleasure again.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
These enigmatic, megalithic structures on Earth seem to have a similar construction as what Karl Wolf made. at least what was, you know, presented to him as a city on the dark side of the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so he's looking at this thing, and he... Then basically somebody walked in, and so the sergeant cuts off his, you know, cuts off this, you know, illegally volunteering this classified information to Wolf, and he goes to work repairing the photography machine.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The general idea of satanic. Well, the term means the aeon of Satan. The aeon of Satan. Or the aeon of satana. And so I'm playing with this term satana. It's the name of a, I guess you could call her a goddess. Really, she's more a titaness. You know, there was this distinction between the gods and the titans, which you see in Greek culture.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But anyway, he said he went home and he expected that either that night or like sometime in the next week or sometime in the next year, we would hear about this city that had been photographed on the dark side of the moon. And of course, it was never revealed, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
65. A few years before Apollo. And what's really disturbing is that this disclosure wave that we're in the midst of right now began in 2017, right, with that New York Times piece. Right. So around about 2018, there are serious discussions about subpoenaing people to get testimony from them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And then later than that, Grush now, you know, spearheaded this initiative to have people come and testify in front of Congress and release individuals from their security oaths, right? Poor Carl Wolf met with an untimely end. 2018, one year after disclosure starts, his bike was run over by a truck. How old was he? young, I mean, relatively. Can you find the story of Carl Wolf?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He might have been in his 50s or something. Wow. And, I mean, this is what happened to John Mack, too. This is how they murdered John Mack. They had him run over on the road.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, I do think so. I do think so.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, he was in good enough shape that he was riding his bike regularly. Can you click on it?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Just search Carl Wolf with a K. Oh, it's not this one? No, well, it has a correct underneath there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So I think it's awfully convenient that just when people are going to be subpoenaed to testify under oath and released from their security clearances, this guy has an accident. Okay. So let's go further down this path to the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So they had these photographs, right? Those photographs went somewhere. I mean, there was a whole room full of international scientists that Karl Wolf ran into on his way to repair that machine. So these photographs went somewhere. Well, guess what? These photographs show up again later in the history of military intelligence.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In the 1970s, when Ingo Swann started to work for the Stanford Research Institute on contract for the CIA... Some guy who identified himself as Lambert Dolphin, which is probably a pseudonym or codename. This Lambert Dolphin basically... he pulled Ingo Swann from out of the unit that he was working with. This unit that was basically a CIA unit, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So this Lambert Dolphin, whoever he was, and Swann was never able to figure out what outfit in the US government this guy was really working for, he had the authority to take a CIA asset out of the CIA remote viewing program and put him on another task. And Swan was blindfolded. He was flown in a helicopter to a classified facility. It was one of these deep underground facilities.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You see it in ancient Hindu culture as well with the devas and the asuras. Satana is a Titaness who was conceived of as the mother of the Gorgons. You know Medusa? Yeah, I just read your article. These ferocious, snake-haired, feminine deities.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he recounts having gone down in an elevator, like Lord knows how deep. This is in Swan's book, Penetration. So Swan says he goes down there and they want his talent as a remote viewer. And they start targeting him on these photographs that are inside envelopes. And he basically starts describing the moon. But he's standing in the middle of a nexus of roads inside a city on the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he describes these gargantuan buildings, huge, titanic scale of construction. He sees the same obelisks that Carl Wolf describes, you know, like the needles in ancient Egypt. And he said, by the way, I got the impression that those were purely ceremonial. They didn't have any particular function.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But he saw other buildings that looked like reactor domes, like as if they were nuclear power plants or something like that, and receiving dishes and antennas and so forth. So he describes this titanic city. And, you know, it stands to reason that whatever was in those envelopes were probably the photographs. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
that were taken by the orbiter back in 65 before Apollo, the photographs that Carl Wolf had reported seeing while he was repairing that machine. So now you have a second point of confirmation. Now here's the really creepy thing, Danny. What else Ingo Swann saw on the dark side of the moon? were masses of people huddled together in ramshackle shelters.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
People who were naked and who were being used as slave labor. This is what he said. He said that, and now the fact that they were naked and apparently breathing while working inside craters on the moon...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
who knows maybe mining helium-3 or whatever suggests that there was some kind of an artificial atmosphere that maybe where they were working was underneath a transparent dome that wasn't you know visible to swan sure but in any case that that's not the important point the important point and the disturbing one is that he saw slave labor on the moon and the people who were directing it were these tall nordic looking fellows
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
one of whom could see Swan. And this has been reported by other remote viewers, where sometimes when they're sent to a target, whether it's a contemporaneous target or whether it's some event in the past, they're witnessed by whoever's there, as if like they're a ghost, and those people are seeing a ghost. Well, this Nordic on the dark side of the moon saw... Swan.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he got the distinct impression, like the guy was telling him telepathically, why the fuck are you here? You don't belong here. Right. Get out of here. Interesting. Okay? Now, that fits with something else that I was told. I was told this by an officer in the CIA who had read my book, Closer Encounters. And he wanted to have a conversation with me because he told me that... When was this?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This was in... two years ago, two and a half years ago.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He's like, yeah, I work for the CIA. Can we talk? He knew someone I know. Oh, okay. And he got in touch through that person. And he... Anyway, I don't want to go off on a tangent, but long story short, he was like, how did you put all these... jigsaw puzzle pieces together. He was looking to see if there was a leak and whether it needed to be plugged.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, no. Medea was the chief priestess of them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
She was a witch who basically did the most to institutionalize and organize the cult of these Gorgons. And the chief Gorgon, the kind of mother of the Coven of Gorgons, is Satana. This was a cult that existed in the Caucasus going back to probably at least 1000 BC. And what's interesting about... First of all, the name originally, Satana, in old Iranian language, it means mother of a hundred.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Because he said that there were too many things in my book that were the same conclusions that they had reached based on having access to classified information. And he was wondering how the hell I put these same pieces together in the same way. But this moon stuff? All kinds of things. The subjects that I discuss in this book, Closer Encounters. But the moon came up, among other things.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Writing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he said, listen, after Swan was sent, we kept sending people to the moon. Remote viewers. And we distinctly got the message from these guys on the moon, do not keep sending people here. This is off limits. And we didn't listen to them. And the last viewer that we sent up there, his soul is trapped on the moon. His body is in a coma in a special medical facility run by the CIA.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And his family has been given medical compensation or whatever. They told his family that the guy had died in the line of duty or whatever. And he's been held in stasis for years and years as they wait for his soul to come back from the moon, where apparently there's the capacity to lure and trap somebody's consciousness.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Which they finally did to one of these CIA remote viewers after repeatedly telling them not to surveil whatever's going on up there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I read his book, Psychic Warrior.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You know, I mean, one of the few silver linings to being banned from academia is it leaves you all your time to do writing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I don't know whether he was being blocked or what, but I can tell you some other things about the moon that are much creepier than a city on the dark side of it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, because that side faces away from us all the time.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Of course. Of course. That's the convenient place to put it. There's also another reason that's technical, which is that if you put, you know, we've been studying this in terms of potential lunar colonization.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
that if you put listening telescopes, like the Arecibo dish, stuff that's meant to convey signals across space, if you put it on the side of the moon that faces the Earth, there's too much interference with radio signals coming from the Earth.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So if you want to have basically interspace communication from the moon to elsewhere, it's better to put something on the side that always faces away from us so that you're not bombarded with radio signals that are being transmitted from the earth. That's a technical reason why you would do it. But mainly I think it's for concealment purposes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, but the story of what's going on on the moon is a lot more... it's a lot more startling than finding a city on the dark side of it, right? Because you could be dealing with a natural satellite that has been colonized at who knows what time by whatever space-faring civilization. No, it looks like there's a much more disturbing scenario here.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And our government became aware of this during Apollo 12 and 13. During Apollo 12, I think it was the lander that impacted the moon. in a way that set off a seismometer that had been pre-positioned there. There was a seismograph that was pre-positioned on the moon. And when the Apollo 12 lander hit the surface of the moon...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The signal that came from the seismograph was consistent with the ringing or vibration of a hollow object. Right. So the way that the shockwave passed through the moon suggested that there was very little inside the moon. Right. Okay? It rang like a bell, as they described it. For a while, right? In the first case, it was for almost an hour. Mm-hmm.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So then they got curious about this, and in Apollo 13, they deliberately crashed the third stage of Apollo 13 into the surface of the moon to carry out a test to see whether this was a repeatable phenomenon, right? And this time, the seismograph not only confirmed the resonance passing through a hollow object, but the moon rang like a bell for three hours, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Because she was believed to be the initiatrix of heroes. She would take these champions under the Caspian Sea into what was believed to be an underwater city. And she would train them and initiate them and confer a broadsword on them and also potentially allow them to look into this grail that she was the keeper of.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they were able to tell how much, more or less, of the moon is apparently hollow. Right. And it's really shocking. It's like the moon goes down for about 20 miles as a solid structure, and then on the inside... There's a distance of about 1,000 miles radially, 1,000 miles from the interior of the shell to the core, radially in every direction.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In other words, the distance between Los Angeles and Seattle or New York and St. Louis or Paris and Prague.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
i suspect that it's not natural caverns but that what they're seeing are the hollows between all kinds of com complex machinery that are inside that structure one of the other things that they noted with these impact tests was that the moon sort of it seemed to compensate and correct for the impact in a way that suggested there were oscillators inside the structure right
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So I think probably there's machinery inside this thing. Now, another data point that corroborates that, going back to the remote viewers, is that... Joe McMoneagle was tasked with remote viewing Mars in 1984, and this was a CIA operation run at the Monroe Institute. So it was the CIA. He was working on contract for the CIA, and this was done at the Monroe Institute.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I think he might have been. Well, no, I think Ingo Swann was the first remote viewer. Okay. But I think he had the designation 001 or something like that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. But in any case, in 1984, Monroe Institute, and this has since been released. This is one of these classified documents that has since been declassified. It's called, like, Mars 1,000,000 B.C. You can look it up. Joe McMoneagle. Mars 1,000,000 B.C. Yeah, Joe McMoneagle. And so, look, Joe McMoneagle... is tasked to look at He doesn't know, of course. He's working blind to the target.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's how remote viewing is, right? But what's inside these envelopes are the photographs that the Viking probe took on Mars in 1976, where we got back these images of the pyramids and the fort and the face, infamously, right? So there are all these apparent... man-made megalithic structures in the Cydonia region of Mars, which were first photographed by the Viking mission in 1976.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And that's what was inside these envelopes when McMoneagle was doing this remote viewing session. And he described being in the midst of the ruins of a megalithic city, With gigantic pyramids, he said they seemed like they were maybe three times the size of the Great Pyramid in Giza. Wow. And he described... Part of the Stargate Project.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, he described a maze of structures under these pyramids, like subterranean tunnels and hallways. Mm-hmm. At one point, he walks through one of these hallways, and it leads to an opening, and he finds himself on the outside of the pyramid looking up at it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So much, much later, like 1,500 years, 1,800 years later, this mythos would eventually make its way into Europe together with the migration of the Scythian and Sarmatian people, and it would become what's known as the Arthurian mythos in Europe, where this figure Satana becomes the Lady of the Lake, and then Arthur, King Arthur, becomes the archetypal hero of...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
looking up across the face of the pyramid. And he describes also these... these highways that are trenches. They're these perfectly geometric trenches cut across miles and miles of Mars' surface. And he said his impression was that they were used for a craft. Like, you know, there are bad storms on Mars, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So if you had hovercraft, hovercars or whatever, you would want them to be transiting through something that had high walls on either side. That was a, you know, sunken... Channel to avoid a sandstorm avoid a sandstorm passing over the top of your head. Yeah, like some Star Wars This is basically he describes this okay during his remote viewing session.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, but he says look the civilization is long dead I'm seeing you know the ruins of a civilization that once was Eons before this and he was tasked at 1 million BC So they said to him okay, so go back to when these people were still alive and thriving and he goes way way back and Now, we can infer from another data point that I'll come to, you know, how far back he went.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But he doesn't say in the session. But he goes back to when these people were around. And then he describes Nordic-looking, super tall people in skin-tight jumpsuits. People. People. who looked like Scandinavians, except he said they had more like, I don't know, like between an Olympic swimmer and a football player's physique with very broad shoulders, not an ounce of body fat.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He said he could see all their musculature through their skin-tight suits. And what McMoneagle relates is that these people were facing the end of their civilization. And some of them had this, what he describes as very philosophical sense of resignation, where they were like, well, we had our time. It's not fair for us to ask for more time.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We've had more time than we should have had, some of them. And some of them are still trying to survive and endure. And the ones who are trying to survive, he says, they've looked for a way out. And no matter what they do, they can't seem to find a way out. Just pin that somewhere, right? Then he says, they designed and got into a spacecraft that was cylindrical.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
which is very much the description of a lot of these cylinder-shaped, cigar-shaped UFOs, metallic cigar-shaped craft. And they went to another planet, which they were scouting out to see whether it was a viable world for them to relocate to. And this other planet was nothing like Mars. It was very green. overgrown with vegetation, in fact.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But there were constant storms on it, electrical storms, typhoons. There was a lot of volcanic activity on this planet. And they basically concluded that they couldn't settle there without altering the planet, without terraforming it in some way to make it more habitable. So... This is a long conversation to have during a remote viewing session. Yeah, so they got all this out of him, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I think those are all the important points. Very detailed. Yes. So now you put this next to what Dr. John Brandenburg discovered regarding Mars. Dr. Brandenburg, who I got to spend a few days with in New Mexico a number of years ago, he worked on the Clementine mission for NASA. And at one point he was working at Sandia Labs, which is where I think a lot of the nuclear weapons are designed.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
who is initiated by this grail mistress and who's given the broadsword and so forth. So the mythos of Satana is the most primordial form of what later becomes the Arthurian grail mysticism of Europe, of Gothic Europe. And Celtic Europe. And it's brought there by these Caucasian Iranian people, these northern Iranian people called the Scythians and Sarmatians.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Mm-hmm. And he was looking at isotopic data from Mars. So every planet has certain amount of isotopes of different materials and metals and so forth on it. Right. And apparently the isotopic ratio of xenon-129 is consistent across the entire solar system, except for on Mars and our thermonuclear test sites on Earth.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
There's a deviation from the norm of the isotopic signature of xenon-129 at our thermonuclear test sites on Earth. And we find the same thing at Cydonia on Mars. Why is it different on nuclear test sites? Something happens when, and it has to be not an atomic bomb, but a thermonuclear bomb. When a thermonuclear bomb is detonated, that leaves a trace of xenon-129 in that area where...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
which is not the normal, basically, distribution of that isotope that you would find on Earth or on any of the other rocky bodies in the solar system. And according to Brandenburg, it's a very distinct signature. It's unmistakable, and it's very specifically associated with thermonuclear weapons detonation.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Then, after he discussed this with one of the scientists at Sandia Labs, whose expertise is working on nuclear weapons... He checked for other isotopes, and he saw that the isotopic ratio of thorium and uranium was also off at Cydonia in a way that matched thermonuclear test sites.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so he came to the conclusion that, and even did the math, like how many nukes would you have had to detonate in this place to produce this kind of a deviation? Turns out that an empire state building's worth of our highest yield thermonuclear warheads would have had to have been detonated there to produce this kind of isotopic signature.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And this is exactly the same place where we find these blasted megalithic structures on the surface of Mars. So there's a nuclear war on Mars. So Brandenburg's thesis is that there was a nuclear war on Mars.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It would definitely have been a contributing factor. I want to come around to what I think might have been another factor in that. Okay. But definitely would have been a contributing factor. But we were on about the moon. So why am I going on this detour to Mars? Yeah. Because when you put Brandenburg's research next to what Joe McMoneagle saw.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And by the way, while we're on this subject, Ingo Swann was also tasked, independently of Joe McMoneagle, to look at Mars twice. Once was in 1976, I think, and the other was in 1984, same year that McMoneagle did his, But Swan's team and McMoneagle were unaware of each other. Obviously, this makes sense as protocol. They wanted two sets of remote viewers on the same target to get corroboration.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And Swan did his with a whole team of people. McMoneagle worked alone at the Monroe Institute. Swan had like five or six people working with him. And in 1984, and also in the viewing in, I think, 76 or so, Ingo Swann and his team described exactly the same thing as Joe McMoneagle. They described a civilization on Mars.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
most of which was in ruins and was vastly ancient, but other parts of which still survived under the surface.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He described a honeycomb of cities under the surface of Mars and some structures on the surface, which were like relaying information and being used as transportation beacons and had been built by this civilization that is still active under the surface of Mars, cities that are subterranean. So, okay, but this all came from out of discussing the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The Greeks also called the Sarmatians Amazons. Their whole legends about warrior women come from this culture because they had female warriors. In fact, I mean, they were arguably a matriarchal culture with female rulers and female warriors. Very unusual culture because they also... I think were the first people to invent iron warfare implements and chainmail armor.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
When you put the remote viewing data next to Brandenburg's thesis, what it suggests, oh, and Brandenburg, his estimation was that this nuclear event in Cydonia took place maybe 100 million years ago. Maybe 100 million years ago.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
65 million years ago. Right? So it's a ballpark. And when you put these two sets of data together, as I did in my book Closer Encounters, the conclusion that emerges is that the moon was constructed by these survivors of some kind of apocalypse on Mars. And it probably had at least two functions initially. One was to transport a shit ton of people over here. The moon?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the other one was to act as a terraforming device. So if we didn't have the moon where it is in this extremely stable orbit that it's in, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We would have eight-hour days. The Earth would be spinning much faster than it is right now. The Earth would also not be as stable as it is. There have been calculations done that show that the Earth would be prone to toppling over at odd intervals. Well, all planets have moons, right? Yes, but only our moon stabilizes a planet to the extent...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Only our moon stabilizes our planet in the way that it does, and only our moon has as stable an orbit as it does, and none of the other moons in the solar system create the beautiful eclipses that we have here, because the moon is, get this, 1 400th the size of the sun, and it's 1 400th the distance to the sun. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes, yes. As you're famously accused of. Being defamed in both of those ways simultaneously. Never had any dealings with Nazis as far as I'm aware. Did meet with probably four different Mossad agents, but I never accepted their offer for shekels. So I'm a free agent.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So the fact that it's 1 400th the size of the sun and 1 400th distance to the sun produces this perfect eclipse.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But what's even more significant is that our moon has an extremely stable orbit. No other moon in the solar system orbits its planet with as little deviation as our moon does.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so it appears there's something inside the moon stabilizing that orbit, which is also stabilizing the Earth. And what did it give us? It gave us a climate, an environment, a biosphere that... rendered this planet habitable for humans. Remember what McMoneagle said. He said, they sent a scout ship to another planet. It was overgrown with vegetation. It wasn't arid like Mars.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
There were volcanoes going off. There were electrical storms. And they were like, this place is too volatile. We can't settle here the way that it is now. So the moon was probably used in order to terraform the earth into a habitat that humans could, humans, Martians could settle in to become the human race. So now there are other pieces of data.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
100 to 65 million years ago. Now look, the dinosaurs would probably have had to have been killed off for this, right? So one hypothesis that follows from this is that the impact that killed off the dinosaurs was deliberate, not some accidental asteroid impact. It wouldn't have been very easy to coexist with them, right? Right, mm-hmm.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, but look, there are other data points that really nail this case. For example, the craters on the moon. On Earth, when you have impact craters from meteorites, for example, right? The craters are roughly proportionally deep as they are wide. They dig into the Earth, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
On the moon, you have these utterly bizarre craters, which are like over 100 miles wide, like the Gregarion Crater or the Clavius Crater. You could fit Switzerland and Luxembourg together inside some of these craters. They're over 100 miles wide. They're never more than four or five miles deep. That doesn't make any sense.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In any case, they worshipped this figure, Satana. And around about, I think, 700, 800 BC, they mass invaded the Middle East. And it's said they went all the way up to Egypt. Right. So I've made an argument in some of my work that what we believe is the Hebrew term Satan, Ha-Satan, the adversary, probably comes from this Satana in origin.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The inside of these crater basins are all convex, like the surface of a contact lens. So think about this. Why would a meteor impact, meteorite impact, produce a crater that's so much wider than it is deep, and then in the especially wide craters like Clavius, you see that the surface of that crater is convex?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's because it's hitting a hard shell that's underneath the regolith, and the regolith is like astroturf that's been put on the surface of that space station to make it look like it's a moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
There wasn't any. We didn't have seasons. That's a product of the moon. The equinox is only because of the moon. This 23-degree deviation that we have between our equator and the celestial equator that produces the equinoxes and the solstices is a function of the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So first of all, there's the extremely bizarre ratio that you just mentioned, right? Where this 1 400th size of the sun, 1 400th distance from the sun. And that's what produces these eclipses. Then there's an incredible stability of the orbit of the moon. Then as we mentioned, these craters don't make any sense, right? These craters don't make any sense.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the basin of them seems like it's revealing a shell of some kind, a spherical shell. Then there's the impact tests, right? Right? The Apollo 12 and Apollo 13, where the moon on a seismograph registered like a hollow object. And by the way, there's no moon that's a hollow object.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Back before Carl Sagan became such a skeptic, he even commented on this and said that it's terrifying because no natural satellite is hollow.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
How do we know? It's just not what moons are. Moons are like... You know, they're like rocky bodies that are trapped by a planet and they're rocky all the way through.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. We have detailed, like for example, Phobos and the moons of Mars, we have detailed images of them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It has two. Two moons. Saturn and Jupiter have a bunch. Right. And, you know, the other thing about these moons are they're all weird shaped. They look like deformed potatoes, you know, a lot of them. They're not beautiful spherical objects like ours is. But there is another interesting thing. And that's the mass cons.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So there are these – you know, the moon has a lower gravity than Earth generally, right? Remember the golf ball thing? Yep. So – and the Apollo astronauts.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We'll get to them too, the Apollo astronauts. Hopping around, you know, in the lower – but there are places on the moon where there's a much stronger gravity. There's Earth-like gravity or stronger than Earth-like gravity. And it's actually a problem for navigation because when they pass satellites over, they can't fly too low because – the craft will be pulled by these gravity wells.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
There are places on the moon, they call them mass cons, mass concentrations, where the gravity deviates from the standard on the moon. And guess what? They're all perfectly circular. So one thing I hypothesized in Closer Encounters was that if this thing is a space station, it's possible that they built saucers into the surface of it
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, they have to compensate for those when they fly anything around the moon. Anyway, look, here's the thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So... We can't be just letting George Johnny fly by the seat of his pants here. One possibility is that when they built the space station... They built saucers into the surface of it. Remember, all the Mascons are circular. A saucer is going to have a zero-point energy drive generating a local- A flying saucer? Yeah, a flying saucer is going to have a local gravitational field.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And if there's people in the saucer, it's 1G, which is greater gravity than the rest of the moon. So one possibility is that what these Mascons are, are saucers embedded in the space station underneath the regolith as a potential evacuation protocol. Suppose there's a danger, like some giant asteroid is coming that might hit the Earth or it might hit the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they need to evacuate the station, right? Well, these saucers could just peel off the surface. So that's one possibility of what these Mascons are. It are, you know, saucers with zero point energy drives running embedded into the surface of the object.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Because the serpent symbolism associated with Satan from the book of Genesis onward... In various aesthetic representations has a distinctly female connotation. Like the serpent in Eden was depicted in female form often throughout the history of art. And the serpents are, of course, associated with the Gorgons. They have serpents in their hair, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This is where I want it to go next. We mentioned the astronaut, right. So, you know, these guys don't even remember what they did up there.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
When you ask them, they've done interviews with these astronauts. And when you ask them, you know, so what did you do on such and such a day? They basically rehearse a mission log. We did this. And then we went, no, no, no. I mean, how did you feel like when you were standing on the edge of that? And then they freeze up. They start to look ill.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so like you're saying in that press conference, right? They don't look like national heroes coming back from having been the first men on the moon. They look like hostages. They look like they've had the shit scared out of them or, you know, yeah. So I think that these people saw some terrifying things up there. And that's also what Soviet intelligence thought.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In Timothy Good's book, Above Top Secret, British UFO researcher. It was close to Admiral Norton, Admiral Lord Hill Norton, British Navy, was one of the people who endorsed Timothy Good's work. And in his book, Above Top Secret, Timothy Good recounts a meeting between British intelligence and Soviet intelligence back during the Cold War.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the Soviets said, we were listening to the medical channel during Apollo. They had a channel that they would use to report back like medical emergencies, things they didn't want the public to hear. A separate channel from the one that was being broadcast across television. And, you know, unsurprisingly, the KGB had found access to this. Okay. They weren't supposed to have access.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Which is really a reference to the fact that viper venom was used in this cult. Right. So the title comes from that, okay? It's a play on the cult of Satana. But... The way I use this from the opening chapter onward is in terms of the contemporary debate over whether the UFO phenomenon is demonic. So you have these Collins elite people who think that, you know,
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Even our ham radio operators were listening to this in America. Some ham radio operators said that they were able to pick up on this too. So the Soviets said, we heard Armstrong and Apollo 11.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
say these babies are huge they're huge they're warning us off they're on the edge of the crater and there's this whole conversation on the medical channel about how the apollo 11 astronauts were effectively assaulted and scared off by a huge spacecraft on the moon which were not there to greet them they got the sense that they were there to say get the hell out of here
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, you know, people have all these... Who was the person that said this? And this was... It was somebody... It was a conversation between British intelligence, a British intelligence officer. You can find it in Timothy Good's book, Above Top Secret. Above Top Secret, okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And it was a British intelligence operative who during, I think, toward the end of the Cold War was meeting with a Soviet counterpart.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the Soviet said, we have the record of this. conversation between Armstrong and ground control on the medical channel where they were saying they saw the... Now, that would scare the shit out of you. Moreover, by 1969, 70, they had already done this MKUltra.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
stuff yes right so you think they you think they wiped their memory somehow exactly exactly we had already done this mk ultra stuff and i think these poor guys were mk ultra when they came back to try to get them to forget as much of what happened on the moon as possible and that would also explain why they all wound up with dysfunctional lives these guys all became alcoholics their wives divorced them all their their personal lives became a disaster
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So yeah, that's another piece of corroboration that, you know, the moon is inhabited and it's also probably an artificial satellite. And why haven't we been back since? Exactly.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
What I find profoundly disturbing about that is that humiliation is the worst thing in Chinese culture, the worst thing. Okay. So the Chinese are not about to go up to the moon and have their asses handed to them. Moreover, the Chinese are going to the moon in collaboration and cooperation with the Russians.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The Chinese and the Russians plan to build a space station that orbits the moon and then send astronauts from the space station down to the surface of the moon, right? If there's that degree of cooperation between Russia and China on the moon, it means the Soviet dossier has been handed over to the Chinese. The Soviet dossier? Yeah, the Soviet dossier on the moon. Oh. Okay? Okay. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
What's in that? Right. Everything the Americans encountered on the moon, which is why the Soviets never went to the moon. Remember, we were competing with the Soviet Union to go to the moon. Yeah. Why is it that we went up there and then all the Soviets just decided to cancel their moon program? No. They knew. Of course they knew. They knew.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And also there were discussions in the Soviet Union at that time that, okay, if America makes it to the moon first, we'll go to Mars first. They figured it out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
neither are for the taking neither the moon nor mars so what's really disturbing about the chinese initiative is that if the chinese of all people are planning to go up there and i don't know if not colonize at least do some scientific research or whatever right it means they've gotten clearance from the people that are there that's right that's right now what and notice how the balance of power is shifting in the world toward china
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Is it really? It is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Look, I mean, it has been. Now, whether that can be reversed is another question. But... If you wanted to manage a global totalitarian state with ubiquitous surveillance and an extremely technocratic form of government with little personal freedom, a control society on a global scale, the Chinese would be the optimal people to put in charge for that because it fits the values of Confucianism.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Either angels or more probably demons are what's behind the whole- What do you call them? Collins elite? The Collins elite. Yeah, the Collins elite. I think we got into this briefly the last time I was here. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay? So if someone... on the moon, potentially also on Mars, wants to impose a totalitarian world government on Earth, they're not going to make a deal with the United States. They're going to make a deal with China. That's what I find most disturbing about Chinese plans to go to the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I actually don't think we would even be going back there if it weren't for the fact that Chinese already are.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You know, I'm not sure. It's very easy to make these kinds of moral judgments. If I were in Lockheed at a high level with security clearance to the special programs that are dealing with zero point energy, electro-gravitic drives. Yeah. I'm not so sure that considering the kind of society we have in this country, let alone in the world at large, I would publicly disclose that technology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But some people think that the Collins elite was an unofficial interagency organization with representation from the CIA, the Air Force, and various other military intelligence organizations. Hmm. that was formed, they think, some people argue, like Nick Redfern, I think, in his book on, what was that book called?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I mean, we talked about this last time, I think. The weaponization implications and dual use potential of such technology is extremely socially destabilizing. So the thing is, with China, you can manage technology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
technology and control information in that way yes totally based on the ideals of the bill of rights and the united states constitution you can't it makes it way harder right so they have a good negotiating partner in china oh yes that makes a ton of sense so even if you're in lockheed you're you know you're stuck behind all these walls of classification and these security oaths that you've taken you might still believe in the ideals of the bill of rights and you might not be ready to sell out you know at least the american citizenry to a uh
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
foreign power or an alien power that intends to subjugate the planet and you know subject us to a global tyranny so yeah I'm not convinced that even people in the the deepest strata of the deep state are so, how can I put it, callous and nihilistic and self-serving that they would make a deal with people who want tyranny over the planet.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In fact, I wouldn't be at all surprised if for a long time they've kept these technologies close to the chest in order to develop some kind of a... deterrence capability or to approach parody, technological and military parody. With what? With them? Yeah, with the people on the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, great question. Permit me to answer it in a little bit of a roundabout way, because I want to give you a substantive answer, right? And so here's where I want to go into the idea of the simulation theory. Because the deepest, darkest secret that somebody in that position, in Lockheed or Northrop or
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Even at some of – let's say at IBM and some of these computer companies, tech giants that have been in bed with the defense contractors and the government for decades, the deepest, darkest secret that they would know isn't even – Anything to do with zero-point energy drives or even with the psionic aspects of, say, piloting UFOs, which is another whole thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This is one of the reasons why that guy in the CIA contacted me after Closer Encounters came out. Because one of the things that I argued throughout this whole book, actually, it goes back to even my first book, Prometheus and Atlas, is that I said, that book was published in 2016. Right. I said, there's not going to be any UFO disclosure without disclosure of psychic abilities.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And there's not going to be any substantive scientific mainstream acceptance of psychic abilities without UFO disclosure. These two things are completely inextricable. They're going to find that there are psionic aspects to the guidance systems of UFOs. And that basically the pilot interacting telepathically with the system is part of how the thing is piloted.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We'll come to that. So that goes to your question about what's the ethics of a person who's deep inside the system, right? How has their worldview been shaped by the horrific things that they've been apprised of? Right. So to me, the most horrific thing isn't...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You say that probably more than half-jokingly. No, I don't think Tucker's part of the Collins elite, but I think that they've gotten to his head. I think that these are the people who put this in Tucker Carlson's head, and he's been talking to too many of these folks. So anyway, some people think they were formed in 1947.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, you've got to develop a split personality.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Very much so. Or like the doctor in Stranger Things, the one who works closely with Eleven.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You know, the papa figure.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Some of these guys are family men, and they go home, they have to deal with their wives, they have to deal with their kids, and they have to somehow dissociate from what it is they do at work every day. Right. In any case, what are the deepest, darkest secrets that these people have been apprised of?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You remember how I said in remote viewing of Mars by Joe McMoneagle, there was this very curious thing he reported about how these people on Mars kept trying to find a way out. Yeah. And they couldn't find a way out no matter what they did. What were they trying to find a way out of?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
so they they got to earth i mean if the theory that i'm proposing is correct they made it to earth and they used the moon to terraform the earth and so forth right so they weren't trying to get out of mars or get off of mars what were they trying to get out of that's a good opener to this question of you know the simulation and what evidence there is that we might be living inside of a simulation
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So this is something that I discuss at length in my book, Citanion. And, you know, I've discussed simulation theory in Closer Encounters and other books of mine before, but I discovered something recently that's much more rigorous from a mathematics and physics perspective and consequently also more compelling and disturbing. And that's this. Okay, so bear with me.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This gets a little bit complicated. So we start building computers in the 1940s, right? Alan Turing, the big wall-sized computers, and we're competing with the Nazis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, and ENIAC. At that time in the 1940s, when we're building the first computers, there was this guy, Claude Shannon, who developed a science known as information theory, subsequently came to be known as information theory. Because before computers were built, nobody thought of mathematically formalizing the transfer of information. We had phones at that time. We had radio transmissions.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But nobody thought about what was being transmitted over phone lines or over telegraph lines as data transfer. That concept didn't exist. But once they started building computers, it stands to reason that somebody would mathematically formulize what data is and what it means to transmit and transfer data. So this guy, Claude Shannon, does this. And he comes up with the idea of a binary digit.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
to basically, between 45 and 47, to spy on Jack Parsons and investigate what Jack Parsons, the occultist and rocket scientist, was doing, you know, with L. Ron Hubbard and others in the middle of the western desert, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Binary digit. Bit. where data is conceived of according to the binary of one and zero. You know, data as being a construct built from out of sequences of ones and zeros. Claude Shannon is the first person to conceptualize this. And Shannon also makes the point that, look, we live in a universe bound by the two laws of thermodynamics.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The first law of thermodynamics is that energy can never be created or destroyed. Energy equals MC squared. This is going to be important for what I'm about to say. So as Einstein, you know, showed us, energy and mass are interconvertible. E equals MC squared. So energy can become mass and mass can become energy. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But we can't identify anywhere in the physical universe energy being created or destroyed. That's the first law of thermodynamics.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Net total energy remains the same. Yep. Okay. So... Then the second law of thermodynamics is that we notice everywhere in nature, even when you pour a dye into a glass of water, that there's a tendency toward disorder in the cosmos over time. And so the second law of thermodynamics is that in a closed system, The level of disorder or entropy either remains constant or increases.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's never the case that entropy decreases in nature. You never have more order emerge over time in large-scale physical processes. As things age. As things age, more disorder.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It happens to our bodies. It happens to the whole universe. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
and so this is where they postulate the so-called heat depth of the universe that at a certain point the entropy will become so great that first you know galaxies are pulled apart then solar systems are pulled apart then planets are pulled apart and eventually atomic structures are pulled apart and life becomes non-viable in the universe heat death of the universe at victory of entropy that's the second law of thermodynamics so shannon says look
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
If bits, binary digits, meaning information, is flowing through a computer system, that computer system is in the physical world, meaning it's bound by the laws of entropy. Meaning it's bound by the laws of entropy. Okay? So... Then there's this German Jewish physicist, Rolf Landauer. He came over with the other German Jews who were fleeing the Nazis.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And in 1961, Rolf Landauer builds upon Claude Shannon's groundwork in information theory. And he comes up with this equation, which I have in Satanion. He comes up with this very short, elegant equation, extrapolated from out of the second law of thermodynamics, which says that If you delete one bit of information, there should be an increase of entropy outside of the computer system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So think about it this way. On a microchip or a magnetic tape, when it's blank, when it's blank, you've got the equivalent of 00000 or 1111111. There's no data. Right. When you record data on it, you get 010011101. So actually, the blank tape has more order than when you start encoding information on it, when conceived in physical terms.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Matter of fact, I think it was in Florida that Hubbard, you know, the founder of Scientology, stole...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So because information is meaningful to us and like a file has a book on it, text on it, and the text has meaning to us, or a photographic image has a meaning content to us, we think of information as, let's say, decreasing entropy because we think of it as highly ordered because it's meaningful to us.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But when you think of it as a bunch of ones and zeros, sequences of ones and zeros, when you think of it inside of a physical system,
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
the blank magnetic tape or the blank microchip has more order in it than when you start to record ones and zeros on it right that's more chaotic yes zero zero one one one zero zero so rolf landauer was saying if we erase the data we're increasing uh i'm sorry if we erase the data we're decreasing entropy inside the computer
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Now, according to the laws of thermodynamics, if you decrease entropy inside, somewhere inside a closed system, meaning the universe, you have to pay for it with an increase of entropy outside the computer. So you're decreasing entropy inside the computer. By deleting shit. By deleting shit.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
uh parsons yacht and his girlfriend what i think that was off the coast of florida that he did that yeah they had a bad falling out i told you right that the flag building for scientology their primary headquarters where he parked his yacht is like 20 minutes from here i think that makes sense yeah yeah yeah i think he used this as a launching point for his uh various off the radar activities in the oceans of the world later in his life right yeah so anyway but let's not go into hubbard land
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's got to result in more entropy outside the computer. Okay. Because the net energy has to remain the same.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
so he came up with an equation that expresses this where if you delete one bit of information certain amount of energy is released got it okay now here's where it's going to get weird and creepy okay but that was all necessary background so we we think that information is this abstract thing we think we think it's like not physical right that's in the realm of ideas yeah but what this equation is saying is the following
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That if you amass enough data, like on these huge server farms that we have in Silicon Valley, that we have in China, right? And you're amassing not bytes or megabytes, not terabytes, petabytes, whatever, right? Of data, and you erase all that data, you're going to have to give off a shit ton of energy. That's what Landauer's equation is saying.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
is that if you erase a large amount of data, terabytes of data, there's a significant measurable energy release that's going to take place. Now, according to E equals MC squared, right? The interconvertibility of matter and energy. Yeah. What does that mean, conversely? It means that if energy comes out of the computer when the data is released, terabytes and terabytes on some server, right? Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
What was it when it was inside the computer? Mass, right? It was mass. So it's been proposed that we could weigh a hard drive before data is encoded on it, and then again after data is encoded on it. Or take a hard drive that has data encoded on it, weigh it, erase the data, and then weigh it again. Right. There will be a mass differential. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So there's mass inside a computer that's not anything to do with the microchips or the transistors or magnetic tapes or anything. It's a hidden mass. This has been done? This weighing? No. Here's why. Because currently, according to Landauer's equation, if you were to...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
calculate the mass of all of the information in the world today, on all of the largest server farms that we have here and that AI is being run off of in China, the total mass, according to that equation, comes to one kilogram. Less than one kilogram. Less than one kilogram.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
meaning that we don't have sensitive enough weighing equipment to weigh a hard drive let alone even a server right i mean we couldn't even weigh a server let alone a hard drive because the mass currently is too little however the rate of data increase per year the the rate at which we're accumulating information per year is approximately 25 percent okay
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
and if you think about where we're going technologically we're headed toward this technological singularity where we're going to have artificial intelligence artificial intelligence inside of robots like the tesla robots we're going to have these systems constantly accumulating all kinds of data right and so it stands to reason that as we approach the technological singularity
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The rate of data increase per year is going to exponentially take off way beyond 25%, maybe close to 100%. But get this, even if it were to stay 25%, which it won't, but even if it were, I did the calculations. They're in my book, Citanion. In something like 340 years...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
the amount of information that will exist in the world, at the current rate of data production, will equal the mass of the moon. Now go back to our conversation about the moon. The moon was brought here to terraform the planet potentially. In other words, the moon has massive gravitational effects on the earth. Massive. It took us from having eight hour days to having 24 hour days.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It controls the ocean tides. It's responsible for the tilt of the earth's axis. The moon has tremendous gravitational pull on the earth and the moon only weighs 1.23% of the mass of the earth. It weighs only- Which by the way- And what's the size?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I don't have the number on top of my head. Can you find it, Steve?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, 1.23% mass of the Earth, okay? So get this. I did the calculations, and something like, I think it was like 340 years from now, something like that. We're going to wind up with a mass equivalent.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So some people think it was formed in 47 to investigate Parsons and so forth. But I actually argue in Satanion that the Collins elite probably goes back to the 1896, 1897 airship mystery.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
No, you would need the percentage of the mass of the Earth.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
1.23 is the specific number. Anyway, so listen, I did these calculations, Danny.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, which, by the way, doesn't make sense in and of itself. In terms of, you know. The moon would have to be hollow. There you go. Anyway, I did these calculations.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes. Something like 340 years from now. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
there's going to be a moon's worth of mass in the data centers.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It'll start to tear apart the planet. Imagine if you were to take the moon. Look, the moon is at a certain distance from us, right? It's pretty far.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And from that distance, it's having this massive gravitational effect on us. Imagine you took the moon's mass and you distribute it to Silicon Valley, to the major data centers of China. You put that mass right on the surface of the earth. It will start generating tidal forces toward that gravity well. It will start attracting objects toward the gravity well.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I realize it sounds bizarre, but metal chairs and knives and forks will start to go toward servers. the servers will become a gravity well. There will be so much mass inside them that it's as if the moon is on the surface of the earth. It gets worse.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But because the exponential rate of data increase is so high, 25% per year right now.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In 300 something years, we're going to wind up with a moon's mass worth of data on the earth. And what's worse is that like 20 years after that, I think it was 20 years exactly after that, we wind up with an Earth's worth of mass on the Earth. It will go from weighing equal to the moon to weighing equal to the Earth itself, which means at that point, the planet will be completely torn apart.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Where there was this patent attorney who claimed to represent the inventors of the mystery airships. Right. And this guy's name was Collins. Right. And look, I don't want to be one of these guys who says the same thing every time. And I think we did discuss this last time. Very long story short, in a nutshell.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
sure or in con maybe we like tap into you know some sort of consciousness and we store everything there you could build super massive structures out of like nano materials and whatever potentially to do something like this yeah here's what i want to go somewhere else with this where i want to go with this in simulation theory right so so think a little bit about this like you accumulate this much data and this is what it would do to the earth right
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And, um, you, uh, so you, if you weigh a hard drive before you record data on it, it weighs less than after you record data on it. Okay. But we can't see this mass. I mean, you, you open up, suppose you're one of these very technically adept computer geeks and you take the, uh, you know, you take the screwdriver to your computer opener. Where the fuck is the mass? You can't see it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Even in these giant servers, 340 years from now, once there's a moon's worth of mass in terms of information on the Earth, you can't see it inside the servers. Is there any other example of mass that we can't see in the universe? Yeah, it's called dark matter. Okay. I got it. Here's where it gets creepy, man. Here's where it gets really creepy. So how was dark matter discovered?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It was discovered through three different types of experiments in the 1970s. First, in the early 1970s, when we started to be able to observe galaxies, we noticed that they don't obey the spin rate that they should according to Newtonian mechanics. According to Newtonian physics...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Since most of the mass of the galaxy is concentrated toward the center of the galaxy, the inside of a galaxy should be spinning at a faster rate than the outer arms are. That's not what we see. We see a mostly even spin rate in galaxies. So that really got the physicists scratching their head.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This suggests for most of the visible galaxy to be spinning at the same rate, it would mean that there's a lot of mass outside of the galaxy that's distorting or flattening the spin rate. Then they made another kind of observation of distant galaxies that has to do with the refraction of light. So we have galaxies that are further from us and galaxies that are closer to us.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, my latest book is Satanion, which has a lot on the simulation theory in it that we'll get into. We'll see. Then the latest one, the cover is up there in the background. It's called Metapolemos, which is a Greek word, ancient Greek word, meaning super struggle or meta war or uberkampf in German, Metapolemos. And that one is an overview of my entire philosophical project.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the mass of the galaxies closer to us bends the light of the galaxies that are far from us. So based on how, at what angle the light is bent as it reaches our telescopes from distant galaxies, we can estimate the weight, the mass of the galaxies that are closer to us. You follow?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You've got galaxies that are far, far from us, right? We're trying to look at them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The light coming from them is bent by the galaxies that are closer to us.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's like they're going around the rim of a black hole. It bends the light, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This patent attorney, George Collins, gave an extensive testimony to the San Francisco Chronicle, and I think it was 1897, about what these airships were, how they were going to be publicly declared. The company was going to publicly declare itself on the stock exchange and come forth with this technology and all this.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So they observe this and they say, wait, this doesn't make any sense. We know the mass of such and such galaxy. It's bending the light much more severely than it should based on what we think that galaxy weighs. So then they did a third observation where they said, okay, well, maybe there's gas. Maybe there's a bunch of gas in these galaxies that's giving them more mass than we can see. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So they looked at the same galaxies with spectrometers that can detect gas and estimate the masses of gas. Nope. Doesn't account for anywhere near the amount that this light is bent by.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So putting these, and these observations were all made in the 70s. The first one in the early 70s, the second in the mid to late 70s. Putting all three of these together, they came to the conclusion that there's a ton of mass around these galaxies that we can't see. It's not electromagnetically detectable. And yet it has massive gravitational effects. Okay? What does that mean?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, look, the amount of mass that we can't see, that we can't electromagnetically observe, that ensconces galaxies, surrounds them, is such that it flattens the spin rate of a galaxy. The inside should be spinning much faster than the outside, and yet it's spinning at the same rate.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So that's a ton of mass that's not electromagnetically observable, but it's so gravitationally powerful that it's altering the spin rate of a whole galaxy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, well, so we have a form of mass that we can't detect electromagnetically, and yet it has massive gravitational effects.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's what's inside your computer.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Information is dark matter. It's the same thing. It's the same thing. And once you realize that, of the first people who i think realized this was john archibald wheeler i think he worked at princeton american physicist john archibald wheeler he made this formulation um it from bit okay he said look if we want to say that information is a third state of matter and energy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
In other words, it's not only the case that, as Einstein realized, matter and energy are interconvertible. Matter and energy are both also interconvertible with information. So when you delete the data on the computer, it increases entropy by giving off energy. So you have three terms in this relation. It's not just matter and energy. It's matter, energy, and information.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they're all interconvertible into each other. And the kind of matter that information is before you delete it is dark matter. You cannot electromagnetically detect it, but it has massive gravitational effects when it gets dense enough, when it reaches a critical mass.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So Wheeler said, John Archibald Wheeler, well, why don't we just say that energy and matter are forms of information and that we live in an informational cosmos and And it, things, solid things, come from bit. It from bit. Well, that's very useful in terms of reconciling, for example, physics with parapsychology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And then three days later, the San Francisco Chronicle got back to him and wanted to have another conversation with him, at which point he said, I don't remember saying any of that stuff to you. And it turned out that he gave this entire testimony in a trance state. So this George Collins was possessed and delivered the story.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I mean, one of the reasons why parapsychology has been marginalized for so many decades is because no one's been able to come up with a physical model that can explain telepathy and clairvoyance and precognition. And a lot of physicists have tried.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Dean Radin, for example, somebody came from out of the physics community relatively recently, tried to model psi in a rigorous enough framework to accommodate quantum theory and so forth. But no one's been able to do it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, if you change your paradigm and you consider that actually we're living in an information matrix and that what we think of as matter and energy are forms of information, then the data from parapsychology makes a lot more sense. Because an information system is one where consciousness is fundamental and intrinsic.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
An information processing system is one that's meant to have meaning for minds. You're not starting from physics, from protons, electrons, and neutrons, dead unconscious matter, and trying to build up to consciousness from that and figure out how consciousness interacts with that. You're starting from the understanding that we live in an information processing system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And by the way, this suddenly then makes sense of all the paradoxes of quantum theory, like the wave-particle duality. So you notice the double slit experiment? Why would it be the case that only if you turn on a detector, meaning that there's a person observing the experiment, even if you observe, observation means checking the data that was recorded later. It's still observation.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Why would it be the case that only when you turn on the detector or you make an observation do you get a particle with a distinct location? And before that, it's a waveform, meaning it's a probability distribution of something that could be a particle. Mm-hmm. In computer science, they call that rendering optimization. It's used in video games all the time.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Things that aren't being looked at aren't rendered. It conserves processing power. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Totally.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so what is dark matter?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, but the dark matter around the galaxy is the one that we have physically observed through all these different observational mechanisms, telescopes and so forth. It's a computational cloud. It's a computational cloud around the galaxy. And it's probably projecting what we see and experience.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We're detecting the computational system when we detect dark matter, which nobody seems to know what the fuck it is.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And then it turned out that the supposed airship inventor was some dentist who invented dental bridges who had dreamed of building airships from his childhood. So this paranormal angle starts to emerge in the story where you wonder, you know, Are these airships psychic projections of some kind? Are people's perceptions being manipulated?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, yeah, this is in my book, Satanion, and the chapter is called Catastrophic Information because there's a physicist recently who's looked at all of this, and he conceptualizes this as an information catastrophe. Melvin Vopson is working at a university in Britain, I believe. He's, I think, Romanian originally, but he's working in UK.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And he calls it the information catastrophe because, look, at a certain point, we're going to reach a critical mass of data, which will have geophysically catastrophic effects. Oh, here's the other thing. So I investigated what would be the geophysical effects of reaching a critical mass of data. Guess what?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It turns out to be every single catastrophe that's been held responsible for the destruction of Atlantis. So you have all these theorists from like Plato, all the way, way back Plato, to Senator Ignatius Donnelly in the 1800s with his book Atlantis, the Antediluvian World, to Graham Hancock and Randall Carlson. All these people talking about the various catastrophes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The various catastrophes that might have destroyed the civilization. And by the way, just on a quick side note, you cannot argue with 1,300 ton megaliths in Baalbek, Lebanon, which are fitted together with razor precision, and you can't even slip a razor blade between the joint. You cannot argue with that, okay? Or those. Or those, exactly.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The Egyptians had those too, and who knows who they got them from.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
and with what tools they were made.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. So this civilization existed, okay? And there are all these geophysical catastrophes that have been postulated as the cause for the destruction of this worldwide, highly advanced technical culture, right? Guess what? If you wind up with a moon's mass worth of data at Silicon Valley or in China, you know what winds up happening?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Every single thing that anyone's ever held responsible for the destruction of Atlantis. Number one, the crust sinks underneath the data center. Number two, it creates a tidal force like the moon does, so the oceans get pulled in toward the data center. Crust sinks, there's a massive flood.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It causes earthquakes because it activates the gravitational pull from the servers, activates all the tectonic plates, so you wind up also with massive earthquakes. The same gravitational pull sets off volcanoes, so you get volcanoes going off all over the planet. Potentially, the gravitational disturbance would also even tilt the axis of the Earth.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
which is something that many people from Charles Hapgood onward have postulated was responsible for the destruction of Atlantis. That potentially Atlantis was Antarctica, that's one theory, and that it was suddenly pulled into the South Polar region due to a crustal slippage. Well, that's also something that would happen.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So I mapped out what would be the geophysical implications of such a critical mass of data, and it's every single thing that anyone's ever thought destroyed Atlantis. Not one or the other of them, all of them at once. So then you've got to wonder, what actually destroyed that civilization? Could it be... Hard drives. You know, it sounds funny, man, but, you know, look, it stands to reason.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And I think from that time onward is when the feds got involved and started to develop theories about what kind of diabolical intelligence might actually be behind this phenomenon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
If we're headed for an information catastrophe, what if it crept up on them without them realizing what they were doing? And that's what actually destroyed that civilization.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, they're not going to want to, you know, have detailed photography of that site available. I bet you if you Google image search that, you'd be one of these places that's blocked out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So this crust is going to sink under that one day.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
If this theory is correct.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's right. So there'd be early warning signs. Compasses would start malfunctioning in the vicinity of it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So how did we get here? You asked me what would be the effect of knowing the deepest, darkest secrets on somebody, let's say in the NSA, who has that level of clearance. Somebody inside Lockheed who has that level of clearance, right? Even IBM. IBM's done a lot of dark shit. IBM made the punch card computer equipment that allowed the Nazis to process juice through the concentration camps.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Oh yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Sure. The question is, is the idea dead? And that really speaks to what you asked me. Uh, Look, it's one thing, what does it do to your worldview to know that there are people living in underground cities on Mars or to know that the moon is an artificial satellite?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, but it's another thing if what you know is that we're living in a simulation. And not only are we living in a simulation, we're living in a simulation with a computational ceiling, meaning that it's inbuilt information. that we cannot exceed a certain level of data production. You understand? That's a cap on our civilization.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It means that, I mean, look, remember people talk about the Kardashev scale. You ever heard about the Kardashev scale? Amishio Kaku used to talk about it a lot. Not that I want to reference Mishukaku because his con artistry promoting, you know, string theory really damaged the physics community for decades. But Mishukaku is somebody who... He wasn't the only one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He brought back this idea of the Kardashev scale. It's this Russian scientist who basically came up with this scale of the level of civilization, type 1, type 2, type 3, based on their amount of energy usage.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But the thing about the Kardashev scale... is that, okay, one metric is energy usage, but another is the level of data production, right? So we're living in a simulacrum that doesn't allow anyone to even become a type 2 Kardashev civilization. Which, by the way, would explain why they're, look, the skeptics always say, where are all the aliens? How come there are no aliens here? Right. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You know, I knew Jacques Vallée at one point.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Fermi paradox. Yeah. They never, when they keep citing the Fermi paradox, they like to turn a blind eye to the UFO phenomenon. But even if you consider all the data of the UFO phenomenon, there's actually no really hard evidence that anyone's coming here from outside our solar system. There isn't. And these entities, at least the ones who seem to be in charge, look human.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And the little greys, those are humanoid robots in all likelihood.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
block universe idea of the way time is, closed time-like curves. He thinks it's not possible to change history when you time travel. Whereas I've made extensive arguments- Oh, like timelines. Yes, and that would mean- Like multiverse. Yes, according to how Mike Masters understands the dynamics of time travel, we would not have any free will.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We would be living in a universe where the future is already determined. Anyway, that's a metaphysical argument for us philosophers.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I find that a useful argument because I actually do think that we're dealing with descendants of the human race and other versions of the human race in this phenomenon. However, I have to say, in defense of Greer, I watched some of your interview with him, not all of it, and he did bring up a point that was legitimate, but he expressed it in a way where I think he wasn't making himself clear.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Remember where he came back and said to you, no, actually, it's very likely that there will be humanoid life on another... Yeah, I do remember that. Here's what he was trying to say. Rupert Sheldrake... He said something about... Morphic resonance.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Oh, wow. No, that's Anton LaVey.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Rupert Sheldrake, British biologist, who has... looked at a lot of different empirical evidence for another form of causality in nature besides efficient causality. Efficient causality is like billiard ball causality, bing, bang, bong, things colliding with each other on an subatomic level. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The view that the whole universe works only according to efficient causality, the materialist, reductionist, mechanistic model of the universe, it's only a couple hundred years old. Back in the day, even in the Renaissance, let alone in classical antiquity when people like Aristotle were formulating how the universe functions, there were other forms of causality, like formal causes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
where forms were considered a cause, a shaping influence that guided biological and physical development. Okay? So form was considered a type of cause in and of itself. And in Aristotelian view of the world, there were also final causes, in other words, purposes in nature. That, you know... Embedded in the seed of a plant is a purpose to become a certain type of plant.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, that doesn't surprise me at all. First of all, they both lived in San Francisco.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And to absorb light from the sun and to alter the nutrients of the earth that the plant is growing in and to grow fruit that nourishes people is part of the purpose of a plant. Kind of like the soul of something. Yeah, the aim, the aim of something. The soul of an axe is to chop. Well, the aim of something. The aim, okay. Part of the soul of the plant is also the form of the plant, the form.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they thought that forms were causes. So you had in Aristotle, you had a material cause, which is what something's made of. Then you have the formal cause, which is like what the thing is supposed, what shape the thing is supposed to take. and it's embedded in the seed. And then you have the purpose of the thing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And yeah, it doesn't surprise me.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And then efficient causality, which is the only one we're left with in modern physics, is just how these other causes shape the thing. And that's all we're left with in modern physics. What Rupert Sheldrake found is lots of evidence for formal causes. And he calls it formative causation or morphic resonance. Morphe is the Greek for form. Okay, morphic resonance.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Resonance of form or formative causation. So, for example, this is what Greer was trying to get across. It turns out that in a pharmaceutical laboratory, when you try to crystallize a compound for the first time to make a drug, let's say, right? The first time you try to crystallize a chemical compound, it takes a very long time to cohere.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Donkey Kong.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's very hit and miss and takes a long time to cohere, to crystallize. The second time you try to synthesize that compound in a completely different laboratory, let's say on the other side of the planet, it forms instantly. Much faster. Yeah. So it's as if when something works and takes shape in a certain way for the first time, something about the world remembers that it works that way.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so the second time it's attempted, it takes that shape much more quickly. It's a resonance of form across space and time, irrespective of space and time. And a lot of evidence of that has been found in biology, where they call it convergent evolution also. This is another name for this, convergent evolution, where...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
you have two completely distinct species, like let's say a species of dolphin. And then you have a certain kind of land mammal or whatever, you know. And there are certain solutions to evolutionary stresses that are arrived at in these two completely distinct species whose common ancestor is like millions of years in the past.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And because it seemed to work in one species, evolution seems to adopt that solution in a completely unrelated species. So what Greer was suggesting is that if this type of causation, morphic resonance or formative causation, works irrespective of space-time, it could be the case that on planets that are slightly different from ours...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. Well, the opening line of Satanion, the first chapter is called Diabolical Disclosure, and the opening line is, how does one disclose the devil? That is, without ending the world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I mean, not so radically different that you don't have anything more complex than bacteria. But in a planet slightly different from ours, because the anthropoid form worked here, or maybe worked on Mars 100 million years ago, the memory of the cosmos... stores that solution and implements it again as an efficient solution in a different evolutionary context.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And you're talking about like the dark matter memory. Well, I'm saying it's that. Right. Sheldrake is an Anglican Christian. I got into an exchange with him once.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So Sheldrake wouldn't want to believe this, right? He thinks these forms exist in the mind of God, basically. He won't say that as a biologist. Right. But he's an Anglican Christian, so he thinks these forms, this memory that stores evolutionary solutions or stores suitable pharmaceutical crystallization formulas, he thinks that's in the mind of God, basically. I think it's in the simulation.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's a computer system. When something works, the system remembers, and it's not going to waste processing power. Next time it sees something is grappling with the same problems... It remembers, oh, here was a solution to that. Let me implement it again. So what Greer was trying to say is that it could just turn out that the two arms, two legs, brain on top, it's a very efficient solution.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so the system remembers that and it implements that solution on another planet, you know, in another galaxy, right? Halfway across the universe. Okay, so that's possible. That's a possible alternative.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We were in dark matter.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Morphic resonance. Okay, yes, we were talking about morphic resonance because, you know,
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, the hundredth monkey phenomenon. Look, they found this with rats too. They would run rats through mazes where they're shocked or rewarded depending on whether they can navigate the maze successfully. And they run the same kind of test with a completely different group of rats in a different country. And if the first group of... The first set of rats...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And it comes back to this idea that the Collins elite see themselves as holding back the apocalypse because they think that if these phenomena are predominantly demonic, disclosing that would mean disclosing the Antichrist, which would then precipitate the second coming or accelerate the second coming.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
learns the maze successfully, the second set of rats in a different country picks up where the other group left off in their learning curve. So it suggests that there is this morphic resonance.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, Carl Prebram studied this in I think the 1980s, 70s, 80s. Carl Prebram. And he developed what's called a holographic brain theory that information is encoded in the brain. including skills.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
are encoded in the brain, both content memory and behavioral memory, in a way that's similar to how an image is encoded in a hologram, where you can slice up the hologram any number of times, a true hologram, the kind that you need a laser beam to shine on for the image to pop out of, not the shitty cheap holograms that they distribute everywhere.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Like really good holograms where if you go to, I don't know, a museum or whatever exhibit and you see... super high fidelity.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Let's not put, I don't want Tupac winding up in the middle of this podcast.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Anyway, listen, laser beams, laser beams, right, are shown on a holographic film and an image pops out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay? Now it turns out that if you slice the hologram into fours, and you shine the laser beam on any quarter of that hologram, the whole image still pops out. It's a little bit blurrier. Cut it into eighths, whole image still pops out out of any fragment of this hologram. And what Pribram said is that the brain seems to work the same way. So that's some trauma victims, some.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
who have some level of physical brain damage still remember things and have certain abilities, even though some of the parts of their brain that you would think are most relevant to that skill have been physically damaged because the brain records information holographically. Now, this is relevant to what we're talking about in terms of the simulation.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And I mentioned this in my book, Prometheism, in the chapter on the end of reality. David Bohm took this data that Carl Pribram basically analyzed in terms of how the brain works, and he applied the same model to the whole universe.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So they think they're somehow doing the world a favor by maintaining the secrecy regarding the phenomenon because it's essentially buying us time and holding back the end of the world. So I play with that idea at the opening of my first chapter in Satanion.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And Bohm, David Bohm the physicist, argued that certain characteristics of quantum theory, like what we discussed earlier, wave-particle duality, and also quantum entanglement, suggest that the universe functions like a hologram, that we're living in a universe that has holographic properties.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And Michael Talbot gave a very sort of compelling, popular presentation of this in his book, The Holographic Universe. Great, great text from the 90s. Now, that's another angle on the simulation theory, this idea that the universe, like the brain, has holographic properties. In other words, it's an information storage and processing system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And in that metaphor, the laser being shown on the holographic film is consciousness.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, so for example, in the double slit experiment, right? When the laser... particle beam, whatever, is not being observed, and it passes through the double slits and registers on the photographic film as a waveform, right? Meaning that it passed through the double slits as a probability distribution of whether it would go through one slit or the other. That's like a piece of holographic film
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
without a laser being shown on it, where all you see are swirls in the film. In a true hologram, when you look at a holographic film, you can't see any image in it. It's a bunch of swirls. Right. You need the laser beam to shine on it for the image to pop out.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's like observation in the double-slit experiment, where consciousness is akin to the laser beam that's being shown on the hologram.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So what Bohm and then Talbot were saying is that it's consciousness that makes the universe pop out to us as a phenomenal experience. From out of code, from out of mathematical wave functions. Right. In an information processing system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Exactly. You ask that question. On the other side of two, three hundred years of conditioning in a reductionist mechanistic physical model from the time of Newton onward, where it's expected that consciousness should be explained as a phenomenon reducible to some kind of physical mechanism.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, if Wheeler was right in his interpretation of this information theory that we were talking about, beginning with Claude Shannon, continuing with Rolf Landauer, if Wheeler's interpretation that it comes- What was Wheeler's first name? John. John Archibald Wheeler. Okay, by the way, he had security clearances and worked with people deep in the deep state.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
including on the UFO subject, secretly. So this goes to your question, like, what does it do to your worldview when you know this shit about how the universe works?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Then not only are we living under the Death Star, but actually we're living inside a simulation. What does that do to your view of the world and your sense of ethics?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But point being, if you ask what is consciousness coming from out of this physicalist reductionist conditioning, the established mechanistic paradigm we've been living in for two, three hundred years. Yeah. Well, if Wheeler is correct and it comes from bit, it's a nonsensical question. What is consciousness? Consciousness is an irreducible precondition of any physical phenomena whatsoever.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. And, you know, I think that probably in, you know, going back to maybe 47 or the 1950s. They've been recruited from among evangelicals or traditionalist Catholics. But if you go back probably to the 1890s, late 1890s, with the airship mystery, I don't know whether they started out that way or whether they were spooked into having these kinds of beliefs, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The existence of any other experienceable phenomena is predicated on the fact of consciousness. If we're living in an information processing system, Danny, right? For whom is the information being processed? And the information processing system is there to render meaningful content to a mind or to minds. Okay. Meaning the consciousness is intrinsic to the system. Got it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And by the way, that should be the intuitively... correct view like this is some bizarre counterintuitive thing to imagine that consciousness is some derivative phenomenon that needs to be explained in terms of gears and like billiard balls That we need to build consciousness up from out of mechanistic physics. That's not intuitive at all.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
People say these things about Jung. When you actually look into Jung, it's a little bit more nuanced than that. And it's connected to other ideas that are more complex and more disturbing. So what you're talking about is the collective unconscious, what Jung called the collective unconscious, okay?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But what often isn't quoted from out of Jung is that Jung believed that different races had different collective unconsciouses. So he's not talking about the collective of humanity. He makes this point very distinctly. That, for example, the German people have Wotan or Odin as an archetype that guides their collective unconscious, the Germanic collective unconscious.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, you know, as World War II was starting, Jung wrote about how he thought that the Nazis exploding onto the world stage were an eruption from out of the collective unconscious of the Germanic people, and that it was the god Odin as an archetype coming back into the world. And this idea is not unique to Jung, and he didn't come up with it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Actually, if you dig deeper into the German intellectual history, You find this in the philosophy of mind of Hegel, Georg Hegel. You want to talk about somebody hard to read, I mean, Hegel, man. There's no more cryptic and dense writer probably in the entire human intellectual history than that fucker.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But I've worked through some of Hegel, and in his philosophy of mind, it's very clear that one of the things he's saying is that different races, closely knit ethnic groups, have something like unconscious telepathy going on. And actually, you can see this very clearly in isolated tribes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
People who've done anthropological research on tribes in Australia or in certain parts of Africa have seen that not only is there telepathy connecting members in the tribe, there's a lot of clairvoyance and stuff too. Like they function, you know, primitive tribes function in a way similar to schools of fish, right? or flocks of birds. Okay. Okay? Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so an extension of that is that even as civilization arises, certain closely knit ethnic groups share a collective unconscious. So Jung wasn't saying that, like, on some kumbaya mystical level, we're all one.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He was describing properties of the collective unconscious of different groups of people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But it could be that that's a nested hierarchy. You know, a nested hierarchy. In other words... you have very tightly knit collective unconsciouses of different races. But then there is a level of kind of telepathic communication among humanity in general. And this goes to morphic resonance, what we were saying about morphic resonance earlier.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So that if there were humans somewhere else, like let's say there are also humans on Mars, there might be a kind of telepathic link between humans on Earth and humans on Mars. That is not in any way, shape, or form saying that all sentient life in the universe is fundamentally interconnected, which is a claim a lot of sort of new age people want to make.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Look, think about it this way, Danny. If airships that look like constructions from out of Jules Verne sci-fi novels are showing up not just in the sky over tens of states, but they're landing in people's fields, right? and sheriffs and judges are coming up to these things and touching them and interacting with the airship pilots.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
We're all one and it's all one and it's all God and whatever. That makes sense. No. The collective unconscious is actually a testable claim. It's hard to test, but it's a reasonable postulate in psychology and anthropology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I think there are three different things going on. First of all, Gary Nolan claims that in the research he's done at Stanford, that he's found that there are structural properties of the brains of these people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes, involving the basal ganglia that are significantly different from the average in the population. So there could be elements of the physiological development of the brain, which is genetic. Yes. And to some extent environmental. Okay. I say to some extent environmental because like radiation, for example, can mutate people, right? It can mutate their brain development.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, that comes to another reason, another factor.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, in that case, there are four factors. Very good point. This goes back to the Australian Aborigines and the tribes in Africa that I was just referencing. So four different factors. One, so Gary Nolan's research suggests that there are physical differences in the brains of these people. They're slight, but they're significant.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Significant to the level of psychic ability that someone demonstrates. And it involves the basal ganglia. Another factor is trauma. And we're going to come back to that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, there's definitely a huge correlation between trauma, especially trauma from childhood, and the degree of someone's extrasensory perception. Mm-hmm. Another factor is level of civilization, which you were just referencing, that there's a clear correlation between the rise of technical intellect, the hypertrophy of our analytical mind, and the atrophy of psychic abilities.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I talk about this in my first book, Prometheus and Atlas, that it's very obvious studying primitive tribes that they have much stronger psychic abilities. Which stands to reason because animals have much stronger psychic abilities than humans. Studies on dogs and on horses and on fish and on birds have shown that they have much stronger psychic abilities than humans.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
If it turns out that those things aren't real, meaning they're not constructed objects, they're some kind of a projection, whether it's a psychokinetic projection, like what they call materialization in psychical research, or whether it's some kind of a solid hologram, in any case,
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So it stands to reason that primitive tribes were still living close to nature. also would not have experienced an atrophy of their psychic abilities because they're relying more on analytical reasoning and on the technology that comes from it. So as we've separated ourselves from nature, both through analytical thinking and through material technologies to do shit for us, this is atrophy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, well, people say getting in touch with your instincts. What does that mean?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Someone who wrote a lot about this in a fairly sophisticated way was the French philosopher Henri Bergson. Bergson was an early 20th century philosopher. who also, by the way, got involved with the League of Nations. And he, you know, the organization that today is called UNESCO, the United Nations Educational and Scientific Organization, UNESCO, which Trump is defunding.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I don't blame him, given what UNESCO has become. But back in the day, before the UN was even formed, and it was still the League of Nations, remember the predecessor organization? Bergson helped set up, and I think, yeah, he was the first director, or he was a director of UNESCO. So he was not just a philosopher like, you know, in an ivory tower.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He made a big impact on public intellectual culture. Anyway, Bergson, in his book, Creative Evolution, and also in his book, Matter and Memory, he discusses the evolutionary bifurcation of intellect and instinct. And he shows how various species that operate entirely on instinct...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Because of their morphological structure, because of the way their bodies are constructed, like certain insects, they don't have the potential to develop technology because their bodies are too well-suited to grappling with their environment. It's like they're born ready to handle the world. Humans are born crippled. Right. And therefore, we need technology. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so we, as we develop technology, and as we develop the model building intellectually that allows us to engineer technology, in other words, as we develop a scientific analytical mindset, our instinct atrophies. So there's this evolutionary bifurcation between instinct, I'm sorry, intuition, sorry, no, instinct and intellect. And what Bergson says is that what we call intuition...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
As a gentleman in the 1890s, or frankly, even, you know, this would be how most people today would read it in America, you would probably consider that a diabolical deception, a machination of the devil, right? To engage in the manipulation of perception on that kind of scale, people tend to associate that with, I don't know, you know, satanic deception. Oh, my God.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
is the resurgence of instinct in the context of a life form with a dominant analytical intellect. So our intuition is us getting back in touch with the instinct that these other animals operated according to.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, for sure. And that goes to the heart of the myth of Prometheus that's been central to all of my work. Because, you know, one of the elements of the myth of Prometheus that a lot of people neglect because they don't really, you know, look into it. They just think about, oh, Prometheus stole fire from the gods. to give men the power of ingenuity.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Prometheus brought this fire to be a forge for all kinds of technical innovation and invention. But part of the myth of Prometheus is that So Zeus lets Prometheus design humans. Humans are creations of Prometheus, not of Zeus in Greek mythology. Except Prometheus, whose name means forethought, has this forgetful brother, Epimetheus. His name means afterthought.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And Epimetheus kind of begs Prometheus to be involved in the project of the creation of man. And Prometheus subcontracts part of the design of humans to Epimetheus. Epimetheus forgets to endow humans with an essence particular to our species.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So according to the Greek way of thinking, all different various animals had a species being, an essence that defines that species as what it is, gives it its purpose. Remember we were talking about final causes earlier? Yeah. Telos, purpose, aim of a species or an organism. So Epimetheus forgets to give a purpose, a telos, to man.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It means we're not born with any purpose that's designed, that's embedded in us the way that it is in the case of certain insects or any other non-human animals. And therefore, we're left to define our own purpose. through the development and use of technology. So the human is an existentially uncompleted being. Right. Who necessarily has to complete himself through the use of technology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
This idea is at the heart of the myth of Prometheus, and it's very beautifully symbolized, where when Prometheus finds out that, shit, my dumb brother, my forgetful brother, didn't give these creatures any purpose... In the essence, Athena comes and helps out. She has a special relationship with Prometheus, Athena. He tried to seduce her at one point.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And Athena comes and helps out by giving man his soul in the form of a butterfly. So what substitutes for our lacking essence is a butterfly. That's the soul of man. Well, what's a butterfly the symbol of? Metamorphosis. The caterpillar becoming the butterfly.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes, yes. Yes, perfectly. And so, you know, it's another way of saying that it's up to us what we make ourselves. It's up to us. We have the freedom of a butterfly and we have the metamorphic potential of the caterpillar. and through technology without which we cannot survive, without which we wouldn't even be human. You know that pre-human hominids evolved into us by using technology
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
fire made it easier to chew food and the human the shape of the human skull changed because of that since we didn't need huge chomper jaws anymore right so the very morphology of the homo sapien was in the first place defined by a certain technology technological innovation so we're intrinsically technological beings with a metamorphic potential that's unique in nature and that means that our evolutionary horizon is open we can decide what it is we want to become which is
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, well, the prisms through which many people and institutions look at this phenomena are silly or simple-minded.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Very freeing, but also incredibly dangerous.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, that's also techne.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, you know, Heidegger uses this word techne, which comes from ancient Greek, to express the essence of technology, and it means craft. Yeah. And cultivation of psychedelic substances is also craft. So, yeah, it's a form of technology. And undoubtedly, at various junctures, it contributed to the evolution of human consciousness. And probably will continue to.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
DMT, you know, we were talking about earlier, off the record, about experiments where people are given DMT and they look at laser beams and they see the code of the matrix inside the laser beam. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Well, you know, if that starts to happen on a large enough scale, and it's considered in the context of all this data that we've discussed regarding the possibility we're living in a simulation, that's certainly going to result in some kind of a mutation of human consciousness. Grappling with that fact existentially is going to involve or require a further evolution of human consciousness.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And dangerously so.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I found out about it through reading Gallimore.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, yeah. Let's go to the moon.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You know what else is really creepy about that? Is that some people who've been inside these deep underground facilities where...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Whatever you want to call it. I don't know. Why don't we even call these things these days?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Alien technology? No, it's not really alien. Off-world technology? No, they're coming from under the ocean. It gets hard to even label these things. Whatever. They've seen weird shit, right? Tech that's deeply classified in these underground facilities. And they say that this exotic technology, in some cases, involves a script, right? that on UFOs, there's a script printed in certain places.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Or they found, there's this one case where a guy was shown a gauntlet, like a big glove, that had an information display on it. And when he looked into it, the holographic display was showing these symbols. They're the same symbols that people see on DMT in the laser beam. This is the claim that's been made by people who've done DMT. Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And who've also been in these classified facilities and seen this script imprinted on UFOs or on displays that they've recovered from inside UFOs.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And it's the same script. So what does that tell you? It seems to suggest that the people who manufactured that technology have long since cracked this code. And they use it themselves.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You know, I think this is a good place to start. It was the start of my interest in it in a serious way, and it's actually a good place, a good trajectory by which to go to the moon. And that's that I paid close attention to Stephen Greer's Disclosure Project back when he was first starting it up in the 19, I think it was the late 1990s, a long time ago. I think it was like 93 or something.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
As some kind of a symbol system.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. Well, that's disturbing.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yes.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
By the way, speaking of lasers and laser beams, you know who invented those?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
They invented lasers for the sake of enriching uranium.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's probably going to give us a politically correct answer. But I've read the history of this. And it was done. So look, the Germans.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah, look up, he can do this in the background while we talk. Laser isotope enrichment. The history of laser isotope enrichment. Okay, so the first really functioning coherent lasers, as far as I understand, were invented by the Germans. in the 19, I don't know, late 30s, early 40s, for the sake of enriching uranium.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And, you know, what we're told is that Werner Heisenberg, you know, the German physicist Werner Heisenberg?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He wrote a great book called Physics and Philosophy. He was a very deep thinker. But what we're told in the official histories is that Heisenberg was running the atom bomb program for the Nazis, and that they were using heavy water bombs enrichment. They were using, you know, what they're so worried about in Iran today, gas centrifuges to enrich uranium.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That's the official narrative, that this is the nature of the Nazi atom bomb program, and that we sent some operatives from Norway or something to blow up their uranium plants, and it ended their atom bomb program. Well, there have been some alternative researchers, like Joseph Farrell, who've who are citing other more technical sources. The name of this book escapes me.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's a whole book on the German atom bomb program, which Farrell cites extensively. And there's an argument that the Germans had a second parallel atom bomb program based on laser isotope enrichment. And this was the reason why they invented lasers. And these researchers point to two incidents that took place in 1944, where it appears that the Germans successfully tested an atom bomb.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
One over the Baltic Sea, where there was this pilot who was flying, allied pilot, who was flying across the Baltic Sea area. And he saw this explosion. which involved all kinds of different rainbow colors inside of it. And supposedly this is a characteristic of nuclear explosions that very few people know about. You have to actually like have seen one to know that this happens.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's the fissile material like continuing to react inside the mushroom cloud. And it produces a certain display of like multicolored lights. We don't see it in any of those test footages. Remember those old atom bomb tests? Because it's all black and white footage. Right. So he described seeing this inside this explosion, and only a nuclear explosion could produce that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
divided into the domains of ontology, epistemology, ethics, aesthetics, and politics. So it summarizes my whole philosophical project in terms of the different domains of philosophy. And I wrote it to be a kind of companion volume to Philosophy of the Future, which I brought you last time.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Then there was another one at a place not all that far from Berlin. I forget the name of the small town that it was near, but it caused an EMP blackout of all the electricity and communications in Berlin for like, I don't know, 24 hours or something. Mm-hmm.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It was, yeah. I might have become aware of it in the mid to late 90s. Okay. So we're talking when I was like 17, 16, 17 years old. From early on, I paid attention to the testimony that he amassed from all of these people who have been involved with the military, with defense contractors.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So point being, you know, that's something very disturbing to consider that like if the Nazis had actually successfully tested nuclear weapons in 1944, why did they lose the war?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
I think it's a bad analogy because the level of interference in our societies on their part is such that it's nothing like anthropologists trying to study an uncontacted tribe without disturbing it. I mean, they're basically socially engineering our entire world.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Okay, so if you look through the history of religions, right, I think we talked about this in our first conversation. I cover it at length in Closer Encounters and in Prometheus and Atlas. Working from sources like, well, first of all, I mean, I talk comparative religion myself, so I've read the Bible like in depth and read the Quran and various religious scriptures. Sure.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But also, you know, I've read Jacques Vallée's works, Passport to Magonia, The Invisible College, an excellent book by... William Bramley, which I can't mention enough times. Everybody in the UFO circle should read this book, The Gods of Eden, William Bramley, okay? Nobody wants to think about these things.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
William Bramley, anyway, I don't want to repeat myself from the first show, but he started out studying war profiteering throughout the course of history, and he came to the conclusion that the beings behind the UFO phenomenon have been socially engineering all of our cultures from the earliest that we have any historical records and that they're responsible for all the major wars.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And basically what's going on is mass exploitation of the human population by a hidden elite. So looking at all this, you see that they've been not just interfering, they've been designing human societies going back thousands of years. How does this fit into the simulation hypothesis? Good fucking question. Right. Because there's more than one way you can interpret that.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And this goes back to your question of, if you're a person who has all the security clearances, and you know all the darkest secrets, and you've had to internalize that as part of your worldview, what's it do to you, right? Because one possibility is that the designers of the simulation themselves, that they're like the... Okay, either like the architect or like the agent smiths in the Matrix.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It's a pleasure to see you again, Dan.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Right. That's one possibility. Okay. But there's another possibility. And by the way, I hope that one's wrong. I hope they're not the designers of the simulation. Because if you look at some of the fucked up shit that these entities have done, like for example, the cases in Brazil, nobody seems to like to talk about those these days.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Virginia?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
No, no, no. In the 1970s, in the Amazon basin in Brazil... These Nordic UFO pilots terrorized and mutilated the population. They would burn them with lasers. They would chase them through the forest. They would kidnap people. They left mutilated bodies. There were people... I don't want to describe some of the things that were done to some of these people.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Doctors went in there and they were horrified. Is there a name of this event? Um... I discuss it in Closer Encounters where I cite extensively, you know, primary sources on it, including Jacques Vallée, who wrote a foreword to a book about this. I think it was called UFO Danger Zone in Brazil or something. And Jacques Vallée wrote the foreword to that. Okay.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And yet he, I've never heard Vallée in all these years bring up those cases again. And I think it's because it conflicts with an implicit agenda. Yeah, there you go.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Forward by Jacques Vallée. Terror and death in Brazil. And yes, it really was terror and death. I mean... With utter contempt for these natives of the Brazilian backwater, these Nordics came in and treated them as less than slaves. Almost as if they were engaging in sport, hunting these people and just like sadistically terrorizing them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
There was no constructive purpose, you understand? It's not like they were abducting these people to experiment on them. No, no, no. They were just terrorizing the fuck out of these people, coming up from out of the rivers in the Amazon basin and doing this to them.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And they were described very clearly by all the inhabitants there because the people down there are, you know, mostly Indian DNA, you know, Amazonian Indian DNA. And so they say, you know, el hombre blanco, you know, they were white people. Blondes, white people. Right. They even thought maybe gringos were behind it.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
But unless the U.S. military had advanced so much from the 1950s until the 1970s that we had fleets of UFOs underneath the Amazon rivers coming up, I don't buy it. And besides, like I said, you see this all through human history. It's in the record of every single religion.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
From the Hindu scriptures, the Mahabharata and the Ramayana, and the wars between the Devas and the Ashuras, and how they nuked and leveled whole cities, all the way to what's in the Bible, in the book of Ezekiel, destruction of Sodom and Gomorrah. It's all there, same beings. Abraham deals with them. And they're so beautiful.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
That when they first show up, he's so impressed by them that he's like, wife, take care of these people. Like, you know, they seem like they're very important. Those aren't aliens. And the same people go to Sodom to retrieve Lot, right, before... God is going to destroy before he's going to nuke Sodom. And these guys are so attractive.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
They're such beautiful men that these lechers come around the house of Lot, and they all want to rape these guys. And so Lot, the great prophet, the chosen prophet of God, volunteers to give his daughter to be raped by these men instead of allowing them to be molested by the crowd that's amassed outside his house. Anyway, point being, they were tall, beautiful people, okay? Wow.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Those are not aliens. Those are humans who are up to no good and have very advanced technology. So point being, I hope they're not the designers of the simulation. There's another hypothesis, right? that there are people who figured out they're in a simulation a long time ago. Remember what we were saying about Mars?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And McMoneagle was saying, they're trying to find a way out. No matter what they do, they can't find a way out. And remember you said to me, I was talking about, you know, Brandenburg's study of how many nukes had to have been detonated in Cydonia. And you're like, well, then the nukes destroyed the atmosphere, right? Well, there's another possibility.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So, point being, the people behind the UFO phenomenon, and I belabor that point, people behind the UFO phenomenon, could be the first people who figured out we're in a simulation, and it totally fucked their heads. And as far as I can see it, they became very sadistic.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
How do you suppose such a structure would have developed?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Right, yeah. Staatssicherheitsdienst. National Security Agency. It's a Nazi term. It's a Nazi term. It was imported into this country. National Security Act of 1947 established the National Security Agency, the CIA, and basically the entire infrastructure of our deep state.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. Very cute. So get this.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. So...
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
a lot of people talk about paperclip we brought thousands of nazi scientists over here and people talk only about the physicists for some reason the rocket scientists which will come to them and the bizarre that was going on with them but there were also psychologists we brought here we brought biologists here we brought all kinds of people the psychologists who developed mk ultra eventually starting with project bluebird in the 50s and became mk ultra in the 60s bluebird was worse they were experimenting on children
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
These were Nazi psychologists who were brought over here to develop these behavioral sciences. They had been doing these things in the concentration camps. So we bring all these thousands of Nazi scientists over here between 1945 and 1947, okay? You know what else is happening at the same time that nobody seems to talk about?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
You read the Spanish newspapers at the time, and they're saying bizarre shit that Otto Skorzeny... You know who he was? Remind me. So Mussolini, so Italy fell before Germany, right? Right. Most of Italy, except for the Salo Republic, which was in the north. And Mussolini was arrested and he was taken, made prisoner on the island of Ponsa.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The Nazis used psychics, remote viewers, to find Mussolini. They pinpointed him. By the way, the Nazis used to use this to track naval fleets all the time. They would find the positions of destroyers and American naval ships using remote viewers. Anyway, they used this to find Mussolini, the island he was held on. And they sent this super commando, special forces leader, Otto Skorzeny,
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
a guy with a mustache and a real badass fencing scar. Find a photo of him. Yeah, a creepy-looking guy.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Otto Skorzeny. They sent him to retrieve Mussolini. So there's these pictures where Mussolini has been freed. He's been extracted by the Nazis, and he's with Skorzeny and Hitler. He's been brought back to Reich headquarters, right? They took care of their boy. They found Mussolini, pulled him out. Look at some of the ones with the... Yeah, yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Now, let me tell you a little bit about this guy. So look, all these people were prosecuted in Nuremberg, right? Yep. Somehow this guy gets loose, and he's in Spain from 1945 to 1947. Mm-hmm. Under Franco. So remember, there was one fascist regime that survived the end of World War II. Italy and Germany fell, but Spain survived. Spain was a fascist regime that survived the end of World War II.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And moreover, as the mother country of the Spanish-speaking world, the fascist regime of General Franco was connected to the fascist regime of Argentina. And there was a pipeline between Spain and Argentina in terms of Nazi personnel and assets. Right.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So this guy shows up, the Spanish newspapers are writing, between 45 and 47, and he's with Franco on the Mediterranean coast of Spain, and they're launching saucer-shaped rockets. They didn't know what to call these things at that point. They only knew what rockets were. Saucer-shaped rockets toward America. What happens in 1947? Roswell. Roswell. Where is Roswell?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The only military base at that time housing nuclear weapons. The base from which the Enola Gay flew to drop the bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Right. Okay? So, here's something really disturbing about Roswell.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Corso's descriptions don't fit anything from an alien craft, man. The guy was in charge, had a foreign technology division of understanding foreign countries' technologies, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And what did he say was pulled out of the wreckage and then reverse engineered? Velcro. Night vision. What else? Kevlar.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Come on, man. Aliens coming here from another star system are using Velcro and Kevlar and night vision. That's like their state-of-the-art technology.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Day after Roswell.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah. And he says Kevlar, night vision. Now- Joseph Farrell wrote a great study of Roswell and other associated incidents in the context of Nazi psychological operations. It's called Saucers, Swastikas, and Psyops. By the way, I have big problems with... By the way, don't think I'm like, you're trying to promote Joseph or something. I spent a couple days with the guy. I got big problems with him.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
He's an Orthodox Christian, high up in the Orthodox Christian apparatus and so forth. So... You know, Joseph Farrell's worldview at a deep level and mine couldn't be more opposed, right? But I have to say he's done some very rigorous research. And the stuff that Farrell... Swastikas, saucers... And psyops. Skorzeny's on the cover of that book, actually, yeah. Wow.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
And so Farrell is commenting on Corso and what Corso wrote in Day After Roswell. And he's saying, there's no way this is alien. There's no way this is alien. Nazi technology was anywhere between five to 10 years in advance of ours. We know that. We know that looking at the history of technological innovation, for example, in computers, the Nazis had very small transistors already in World War II.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
It took us another five to 10 years to develop those. IBM had a German subsidiary called Dehomag. It was the German branch of IBM. The information was so compartmentalized, the German IBM was ahead of American IBM, the parent company. And they had transistors that were much smaller, right?
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So you can look across all the different fields of technology and see like, for example, the Germans testing night vision goggles in the African desert in 1942. They were like five to 10 years ahead of us.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Then when you look at the saucer technology itself, you know, electrogravitics and the saucer airframe.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So when you read the Twining memorandum, General Nathan Twining's memorandum about the saucers, about flying disks, as they called them in those days. Yeah, yeah. there was a fake version of that that was modified and it was leaked in the UFO community, like, I don't know, a couple decades ago. And it changed a few sentences to make it out like Twining thought these were aliens.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
The original Twining memorandum has since been excavated. And where you read, you know, at the end, when he's drawing his conclusions and making recommendations, he says, basically, this looks a lot like Nazi shit and we really should find out where the Horton brothers are.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Yeah.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
Make your hair great again with HIMSS. But look, I think in the case of Stephen Greer – and maybe we can come back around to this because I saw parts of your show with him. In the case of Stephen Greer, you have to draw some very significant distinctions between the testimony he's getting from people who served in sensitive positions in the military-industrial complex –
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
So where is this all coming? The point of departure was our conversation about the deep state.
Danny Jones Podcast
#295 - Nuclear War on Mars, Time Traveling Nazis & The Techno Apocalypse | Jason Jorjani
If there's an entity, as Greer says, and here I agree with him, that's more powerful than all the governments of the world. How did it start? Where did it start? It started here. It started here because, okay, here it gets a little bit mind-boggling again. On the one hand, we've imported these thousands of Nazis, and we're engaging them in, let's just say, highly ethically dubious projects.