Jason Friedberg
Appearances
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
So can I ask you about Israel-Palestine? So after October 7th, what's the right path to just resolve this once and for all and just move forward?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Fauci brings up sort of the kind of deep state personality that you talked about in 2016 that's kind of like riddled all over the government. How much progress do you think you made and what do you want to do if you become president in November? And do you have goals around the deep state this time around? And what are they?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
I have to ask one question, sir. When you got elected in the 2016 election, you said the first thing or one of the things you wanted to do was release the JFK file. And then you said later, I saw it and I just I wasn't really ready to do it. And then I saw a clip where you changed your mind and you said, I think we're ready to see this file. And I'm just curious, what's in it? Tell us right now.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
So there's this odd thing that happens in certain states where taxes keep going up. And then you start to see the states break, right? Productivity breaks, crime goes up, and quality of life goes down. But then people don't understand that taxation and all of those things are correlated. Do you have an idea of why that is?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Like, why don't people understand universally that lower taxation is better for productivity?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Jake, I'll just say it. Just say it. You like him. Just say it. Just say it because it's written all across your face. Just say it. You like him. You're confused.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
You asked great questions and he just dealt with them head on. Just admit it. You like him. You like him.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
I told you you'd like him. This is my point. Whether you come out of it wanting to vote for the president or not, everybody needs to, I think, just sit in a room and just hear him out.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
I think he was very definitive about democracy. Ukraine not entering NATO. And I think he was very definitive about an H1B policy that's pro productivity and immigration.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Well, I think there's a lot of clarity on a couple of important points. One is no federal ban on abortion. I think that that's important news for a lot of people. The second is this clarity on H-1Bs, which is very different from what has to be done at the border. And I think that was very clear and new. And I think it's very positive for our community, meaning the tech industry. Absolutely.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Yeah, that's why I pushed for it. We need that clarity because we're trying to hire these people and we are losing them every day. And then the third was, I think the clarity on NATO was also very definitive. And I think that that's important.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
The fourth, which was an implication of what he said, which is a little depressing, is I think there's a lot of us that want to see this Israeli-Palestine conflict resolved. And I think what he's saying is we can't because we've let the genie out of the bottle. We have an adversary now with a quarter of a trillion dollars of excess cash who has no incentive to negotiate. Iran. That's Iran.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
So that's really depressing. And then the fifth one was around this JFK thing. The reason why I asked the JFK question is not necessarily that I have a specific interest in JFK, but it's emblematic of It's a proxy for this deep state, this idea of secrets or this idea of there's a layer of people that are embedded in the United States government that decides on behalf of all of us.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
And I think when you have somebody who can push back against that and use transparency and sunlight as the cleansing function, that is what we need.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
What I heard was he said it was behind the people that were influencing him not to.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
No, he did not say he didn't come anywhere close. He said that he thought the CIA was behind the things that were telling him. To not do it. And he listened to them out of trust and respect for them, which I think that's a reasonable judgment in the moment. My point is exposing that is a very important way of giving the influence and power back to the people.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
I've mentioned this quote from Mike Pompeo, which is really powerful, but it's something to the effect of the people on the top floor of the CIA do not believe it's a Democrat or a Republican that runs America, but that they do. And he said that in the context of being asked, what is the one regret you have or some of the biggest regrets you have? in running the CIA.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
And Pompeo said that he didn't fix that. So I think that there's a lot of embedded versions of this establishment class that lurk in many institutions, whether it's the EPA, whether it's the CIA, whether it's the NIH. And if there are ways in which the president can unlock the data that's necessary or the information
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
For all of us to have a little bit more clarity on what's happening, I think it's important. And I do think for many people that the JFK file is representative of a lot of them.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
But can I tell you why you're surprised? Because I think we have been fed. This is what I'm saying. We have been fed a narrative of what President Trump looks like. Now, in fairness, we're also being fed a narrative of what President Biden is like. And this is why you have to see these men up close and personal for yourself.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Because David, the fact that you're surprised is less about the fact that Donald Trump has changed. It's more the fact that you've been told a narrative and you've believed it. And so now when you see the actual truth, you have to re-underwrite, hold on a second. He's actually pretty thoughtful. He's pretty presidential. He doesn't go off on people.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
That's not what you probably thought going in because that's not what the mainstream media portrays about what you should be thinking about.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
he played him like he walked 10 feet into north korea and now kim jong-un's like you know what i don't need this i guess my my big unanswered question i did want to ask him about like dalio's prediction of like the cycle of empires 500 years well let's play counterfactual freebrook what do you what do you how do you compare the answers you've heard to what you have heard or what you think president biden's answers would be to the things that you care about
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
I think he did say around regulation and then with respect to the bureaucracy, he pointed to education.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
In 2016, there was not the kind of people that, for example, were at this fundraiser that David and I organized was, I think, entirely different than what you saw in 2016. And I do think there is an opportunity where if you dipped your hand, like there was a young man in the audience who answered this AI question, and he talked about public key, private key, cryptography. It was beautiful.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
It was amazing. Very technical person. But there are all these people that are coming out of the woodwork. To your point, Freeberg, if he can figure out how to build a cabinet with those people, meaning these extremely technical, thoughtful people, then there's a real shot that you can change.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
What do you think, Friedberg?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
Who do you think is closer to your desired outcome, Trump or Biden?
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
And that is my other concern is just like, or you speak directly to the people and you end up where Jake Al is at and where you're at, which is you've heard him face to face really for the first time.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
The point is, I think that we had an opportunity to interview the President of the United States. And that was Congrats. I think we talked about a broad spectrum of issues. I wish we had more time. I think he answered them precisely. And I think he was candid. And I think that he gave us new information, which I think is important.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
And I think it allowed you guys to see what I saw, which is if you're an independent or not a Republican, quote unquote, by name, and you have a preconceived notion of what President Trump is like, it's very difficult to keep that notion, is my point, after you hear him and after you meet him.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
And I think that that's a very important thing to keep in mind, because I don't think it says as much about President Trump as it does about the lens with which we are taught to think about all of these people, including President Biden. So I would just say, you got to think for yourself. And that's the most important takeaway.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
And I think that we are giving people ground truth data to underwrite your own opinion.
All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
In conversation with President Trump
No, we've asked. We've asked. We're waiting.