Jarrod Luty
Appearances
Video Gamers Podcast
We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And I ended up getting the job and I fell in love with it. We've grown the Bungie Foundation so much over the past three plus years. The role I ended up working was definitely not what I was hired to do.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
yeah and honestly i had no intention of really leaving anytime soon and then the the job internally popped up and i was like let me throw my hat in the ring see what happens and here we are heck yeah yeah you miss a hundred percent of the shots you don't take right that was kind of that was honestly my thought behind it all yeah
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I actually, I used to live right down the street from the studio, and then I moved a couple miles away, and I would just, like, stare at their building, like, just one day, one day.
Video Gamers Podcast
We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And look where you are now, though.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, absolutely. There's... When you said passion, that's one of the biggest things that you kind of see across the people at Bungie, right? There is a Bungie type here, and everybody here, even the non-gamers, are very passionate about the work that we do as a studio as a whole.
Video Gamers Podcast
We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
you know to your point about you know there's a lot of different roles like we wouldn't exist without a lot of those other roles like the dev teams wouldn't function without those those roles on the the gna side or like the employee services team like this roles that keep the studio moving the heartbeat of the studio pushing forward and giving us the tools and the resources and answering the questions that we have that we can't think about it or don't know about so like
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And yeah, a lot of them may not be gamers, Christine, but there's a passion and like just a belief in the company that exists through everyone that's here that really comes out, stepping up to the plate, helping people out. Like, you know, when we do our Bungie bounty streams, like I'll get messages all the time from folks, you know,
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
In finance, you're like, hey, I want to be on the next Bungie Bounty. And I'm like, oh, you play? He's like, yeah. I'm like, really, really good at Crucible. I'm like, well, okay then. It's awesome to see that. It's really cool to see when that passion comes out. There's so many different functions that exist at the studio that often get overlooked for the glamour, if you will.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Not that there is any glamour of being an engineer, an artist, or a designer. It's hard work. It's not red carpet type Hollywood stuff. It is hard work.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Right. So, um, like Nick who is here setting all this stuff up, like his team, like literally provides all of the equipment and infrastructure to allow developers to develop. Right. Without them, we are sitting there with pencils and paper drawing.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Enable people to do what they do best.
Video Gamers Podcast
We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
There's so many stories at Bungie where people have started in one job and risen through that or gone off to other teams. Look at, everyone knows DMG, Dylan, right? He started off as a Destiny player support, right? Like answering emails and customer service. And now he's global community head for Destiny franchise, right?
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Like, you know, I don't want to point to myself here, but like there's other people who have started new roles and just, there's one of my members of my dev team. He was a tester.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
and busted his to figure out how to become a designer he failed three times in an internal interview to become a designer and he finally got it and now he's one of our top designers on our team so like it we provide the ability for that mobility that that's there's something to be said about that too do like you keep saying it with with the passion and and um
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I'll give you one from each. So as I mentioned, Halo 3 to me was my Halo. I was in college when it came out, when it was hitting its peak. So I don't know why this moment sticks in my head, but I remember specifically it was when Mountain Dew Code Red, they had Halo cans.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I had to be a freshman or sophomore in college. And, you know, one of our, one of my upperclassmen in the fraternity I was in, they had an apartment and we were over their apartment and it was like an all night Halo party. And like, literally it was like two TVs and just, we were playing Halo all night long. And I, I must've had seven or eight cans of code red.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Um, I was, I was ignoring like the keg of beer. I was just like, I just want code red and I just want to play Halo all night. And I don't know why that memory sticks out so much, but like that was my Halo experience. It's just,
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
multiplayer online code red um so no specific memory in halo just those times like it was the ultimate multiplayer experience back in the day yeah it defined it really 100 the land parties and the halo with buddies you know was was absolutely incredible and you said you had one for destiny as well yeah so i mean i've been playing destiny since the the launch the beta to be honest um and
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I would kind of play content solo often, and I'll rely on matchmaking. I'll go into my Apex Legends matches solo and just scream at my teammates. Back in the day, Destiny 1 raids, you had to have...
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
a full stack of six people in your fire team and like for me it was i had like my cousin and one of my other buddies who i got into it but like we never had the full group and until one day we finally talked and we got a group and we did vault of glass og together and like just going through a raid the first time it was my first raid ever again i was a single player game guy sony guy and then i
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
like shooters like this concept of a raid to me was like what is this and like just going through that raid the first time like blew my mind it was so freaking hard yeah and like the mechanic so mechanically heavy and i had never experienced this before but when i finished it and beat it it had to take i don't know how many hours it took us we had guys who had cleared it already kind of give it sherping us through it yeah just like that experience that late night experience that first time
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
It was awesome. Nothing can replace that, that first time going through a raid with your buddies back in the day.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
That is, that is correct. I, uh, I began my journey with Bungie about, three and a half years ago with the Bungie Foundation, with the boss over here. And just back in November, I had an opportunity to move over to the development side and much to Christine's chagrin, in my own, to be honest, I made the leap over to the development side and now I'm working on Marathon. That is awesome.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And the first time you shoot the Gjallarhorn when you never experienced it before, it was like the best feeling in the world. The wolf packs.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
It blew it up and then there was like...
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, you can't replace it. Well, but I have a question, though, for you. Yes. Since you said you ran all three characters every week, but what main are you?
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
That's amazing. I've been in the receiving end of that way too many times.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I definitely see it with a different eye. And I think it even started before I moved into a producer role. Or even I really started at Bungie because I had tried to prep and break into gaming. So I was taking game design courses and just trying to learn about how to make games. So I started seeing things with a different eye.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
But now that I'm fully on the development side, I look at something in content and be like – Okay, I see the trade-offs they probably made here, or, okay, that experience is a little bit different than this. There was definitely a cost that they had to take into account here.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Just understanding where we are in our development and how we make things, understanding how the games I do play that are out in the public... how the type of like, um, processes they may have had to have gone through challenging conversations. They had to buy it to go through to put those things in the game.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
You know, I think I look at mechanics a little bit differently now and try to just analyze it a little bit different. Um,
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
You can definitely see where they tried to be repeatable. They tried to hide something, right? Because you can't make everything you want in a game. It would take way too long. You would never make the game. Ten years later, you never launch. Yeah, you have to learn how to cut things and kind of hide things a little bit to make the same experience come through to the player.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
So you pick up on those little tiny things that they don't make or break any type of player experience, but you're like, okay, I see what you did there.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Here we are. Yeah, I mean, I actually haven't really stopped working at the Benji Foundation yet. I probably will never. Christina just keeps sliding me stuff under the table and under the door.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
It's just a little bit of a different eye that you look at things with. Sometimes I do feel myself... I, because I play apex way too much, I feel like I am a bit overly critical. Um, sometimes like, you know, when I'm shouting and you're a gamer, we trust me, we get it. So like, I, you know, like, you know, why did they make this choice?
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
You know, a lot of it's just because they're like, it's really just the people I'm playing against doing things that has nothing to do with the mechanic. It's just, or it's just me sucking that day. And I'm like, well, I hate this game now because I'm terrible versus no, it's actually, it's a me problem. It's not a new problem. Yeah. Yeah.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
There's kind of both sides of the coin there. yeah you can look at titles that you play and you like or maybe you don't like and saying hey they do they do something like this this way should we use a similar approach or should we do something different compared to that approach but the same time you want to make sure you're not just copying like mechanics and and
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
experiences from other games you want to make something unique yourself so yeah you do draw some inspiration of things to do and not to do um but at the same time you want to try to think outside the box and do something that you haven't done before but again like for me as a producer i'm not there to give make decisions creative decisions like that it's more of me and kind of just like
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
The larger development team in general, like when we give feedback on play testing and stuff like that, like, you know, feedback is feedback and that's it, right? You shouldn't take it as a do it. It needs to be like this because that's often not the case. It shouldn't be like that for reasons that we've defined in terms of what the game actually is that we're making. Yeah.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
They're the nicest, most congenial people in the world. We're so friendly. We love each other.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
He's never told anyone to uninstall. I never said that to myself this morning.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And that's the point right there. You listen to what the vision of the game is at the end of the day. You come back to very core principles and core pillars of what the game is that you're building, and you take it from there. Obviously, a game, especially in the live service, is going to evolve over time because it's a...
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
live game as it should but you know you always have to come back and be centered on hey what is this game that we're building why are we building it like you always kind of have to answer that why question is like why are we making this change for what reason is it because all these people said so or is it is there actually something mechanically in the game that should be changed something like along those lines so i think our leadership team does like a really good job at
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
you know, loud voices seem to always prevail, right? That's the internet these days as social media. And, you know, um, when you have content creators who are very popular and they're amazing partners that we have with them, like one thing they say can skew their entire audience one way, good or bad for these things. And so like, it may seem like an issue could be bigger than it is.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Um, but at the end of the day, we looked upon our community team a lot. Shout out to the community team. They're able to see that internal data and all the metrics that we have while also kind of collecting all of this feedback from the community and lining it up and seeing where things aren't matching.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And they do, they are, have such a hard job in a very thankless position because people just scream and yell. Like they never really get the, Hey, that was really good. Like that was an awesome thing that you built. Um, and that's hard, but they, they're,
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
they're so important in the process, especially in a live support model like this, where they're constantly listening to the community and they can only do so much, right? Feedback is always going to lag behind development because that's just life, right? You release something that was actually made six months ago or something along those lines.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
So the feedback you're giving now takes a while to put into development and to iterate upon it. So that's a huge challenge that sometimes the community, I don't think, necessarily...
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
understands that well gamers are an impatient bunch and we don't understand that things take a lot of time you gotta wait for an update what i mean we do listen though and we listened a lot a lot more than i think folks think um and to be honest without a lot of their feedback we wouldn't have built some amazing features that have come into the game so you know
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I mean, listen, I think... It's got to be the Warthog. It's got to be the Warthog. Just because you could do so much with it. You could be up on the turret. You could be shooting from the side. You could drive it. You could just not drive. You could just sit there in the car by yourself. Yeah, it's got to be the Warthog.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I wish – so I actually just saw Todd Haberkorn, a.k.a. Drifter, last weekend, and I would love him to answer this question for me. But I don't – honestly, I don't know. When I think of Vex Milk, this is what I think of. You go to Disney World in the Star Wars cantina, you have like the blue and the green, whatever, I forget what they're called. When I think of vexed milk, that's what I think of.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
It's like some milky, clear, opaque substance that you are drinking. I know it's not right, but that's where my mind goes.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Yeah, no. I mean, if it's a bunch of radial iron fluid, that means you'll just probably die if you drink it. So I'm thinking something better than that, right?
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
In the future, Destiny theme park, it's definitely happening. It's not happening for legal reasons. Will the Cantina be serving Vex Milk?
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I tried to take so much from her just to give her some normalcy in her life.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Breathe, breathe. There you go.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Yeah. I think I would just love to see more engagement, like across the board. You know, Destiny has however many hundreds of thousands of players, millions of players over its lifetime. But yet the amount that we see that engage with, you know, our programs is percentage wise very low.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Just more engagement. And all it takes... we're not asking for money, right? Like it's, we're just asking to share, right? The biggest thing that anybody can do is just share the word because if you share that word and then that gets to someone who's like, that's a cause I really believe in, boom, then, then it just, it snowballs from there.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
So just, it's the simplest thing is just sharing, use, use that loud social media platform of whatever of your choice for good and share it with people folks or just,
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
offline right it doesn't always need to be on social media they can just be talking about it in like your you know discords and and chats and stuff like that um but i think i'd i'd like to turn that a bit and put that uh the same question to more studios and developers there's only two studios that really have a non-profit us and call duty uh with the call duty endowment That's really it.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
A couple other studios, they have some initiatives, and they do good work. I'm not saying they don't. But I would like the industry as a whole to think about doing good in the world. They have massive audiences. They have hundreds and hundreds of millions of people worldwide who play their games. And all they need to do is put a little bit of effort into putting one thing in their game to help.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
spread good and whatever like cause an area that they feel close to that's totally fine you know i use the example of uh the mercy skin from overwatch back in the day for the uh breast cancer yep right that i think that to this day is like the most successful i was gonna say phenomenally successful 20 million dollars and like overnight which is crazy like
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
If they kept doing that, make it regular, right? Like have all these other studios. I don't want to call anybody out by name, but like they have the audience and the capability and the dev teams to do something like this. And it can be as simple as creating pixels in a game that then gamers don't even know.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Like, honestly, if they don't even know that they're donating money, it's like, cool, that's just a really cool thing. I want it. And then for them to know that, hey, that money went towards charity. Yeah. It's that simple.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
That's awesome. I think... So we have a, we have a life-size chief. I was going to say that was probably, I think I've seen that before.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I mean, but the thing is he's seen better days though. He, he, yeah. Um, he's a little dusty. Um, he would scare the out of me if I saw it like in a dark room in the middle of the night, I'm just like under the fridge to get some like water and like, whoa, like just like, cause he, he's about, it's about seven foot tall. Cause he's on a platform. How tall is he in game?
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Someone definitely knows this. He's like seven feet. He's between seven and eight feet tall if I remember right. He's life-size. But I think I would take, and we have also a full-size sparrow. So I think I would just have a sparrow. That would be like my gaming chair. I'm just gaming on a sparrow.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
That's amazing. Come out, and we'll show you.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Not every day.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I did get stuck once. We're in what used to be an old outdoor shopping center movie theater and then we used to share this in the gym, but now it's all ours. So like parking in the garage is, it's largely for us now. It used to be, you have to share it with retail, but now it's largely for us.
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So no, like half mile hikes to, to, to get in or anything like that. No, no, you can't, you can kind of see the Bellevue, everything like with all the buildings in Bellevue, you have to, provide X amount of parking spaces these days underground with all these towers going up. Blame Amazon.
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It's awful. I had to park. I got choked once, and then I had to go to the bus, to the train, to the boat to get my car.
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Oh, that's open one day. Yeah
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I mean, listen. Doomguy has literally gone through hell. Yeah, literally. But Chief is Chief, right? No one's going to beat Chief. Chief has saved the world how many times?
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I mean, Chief's got... He's on another level. Doomguy, yeah. He, you know, it's Chief.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I'm going to give you two answers.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
So I've played a lot of great like single player games, uh, over the past couple of years. Um, you know, I think I, I finally finished Ragnarok, uh, after a long hiatus. I've, I'm trying to make my way through all of Ghost of Tsushima. I've just been delaying it. Like they're kind of old at this point, but like I finally need to complete them. Yes. Um,
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I think the game I keep coming... I'm a very competitive guy. I love shooters. I love winning. I love killing people in the game and standing over their dead bodies. So the game that I kind of go to, because I work a lot, so like... When I play my games now, it's quick fixes. It's like I want to be in and out, get that dopamine hit, and then move on with my day.
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So I play a lot of Apex Legends, playing since the beginning. That is my dopamine hit. I drop in for a couple rounds. I hopefully come out with a dub or at least a couple top fives. And so I play way too much of that. Way too much. I will say a newer game that I've been begrudgingly hooked into, which I never – I hate mobile games. Like this is nothing – this is not for me. I hate the form factor.
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I like screen.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
If they're on my phone, I'm going to play them too much. We had an internal thing called Pentathlon, a competition back – when was that, December at this point?
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And we were playing Bellatro. Oh, yeah. And I was like, what the hell is Bellatro? And I watched all these people trying to tell me about it. They're like, oh, it's like poker, but it's a roguelike.
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I'm like, all right, whatever. Let me download it on my phone. $10, cool. Worst best decision I ever made.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
i'm now like so addicted to this thing like i'll play it in bed before i sleep and i was like are you still playing your stupid game i'm like i'm not deleting it till i 100 it oh god it's gonna take a while so yeah i mean honestly it's a great game the design is phenomenal um it's so simple but it's so i'm addicted we just
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
It was the best. It was a genius marketing decision by far.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
I mean, I go back to my days of Halo 3. Those are my heydays of Halo. He's talking our language now. It's the race to get the sword, man. Whoever gets that sword, you're just king. But if we're not talking about the sword, which I think everyone loves, sticky grenades. Oh, that's a good answer. Nothing's more satisfying than throwing a grenade, sticking some, and you're dead.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Yes, that was my first role at Bungie. I, unlike Christine, had wanted to work in games forever. Very intentional.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
Um, yeah, I, I'm from New York. Uh, I, I studied finance in college and I thought I was going to work at traditional finance, you know, career. Um, and I was, I was working at a, at a bank on wall street for many years. Uh, and then my wife packed up, um, and said, sorry, she didn't pack up. They're still together.
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Sorry. She took a job at Amazon and we packed up our one bedroom apartment in Manhattan and came out to Seattle right before the pandemic hit.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
And so that was fall of 2019. And I was like, well, if I'm quitting my job because remote work doesn't exist in 2019, I'm coming to Seattle. I'm going to try to break into the gaming industry, what I've always wanted to do, because in New York, it just doesn't happen. It's really hard unless you're already in it. There's really just rock star out there.
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We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
So I tried to, I interviewed for like two years across every known studio, or really just applied, not much interview going on, because who's gonna hire some guy from finance background that's not applying for a finance role that wants to make video games?
Video Gamers Podcast
We Sat Down with Bungie: Dev Secrets and How They're Giving Back - Gaming Podcast
But this role with the Bungie Foundation came across my computer screen one day, and they were looking for someone who had video game desires and interests and some nonprofit experience, and I had done some nonprofit stuff. through my work back in New York. And I was like, okay, yeah, this sounds great. Why not? And I wasn't really sure what the role was going to be like.