Jared Santo
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The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
That sucker's still kicking. I mean, I assume these games have like a long tail of people who just keep playing it forever, right?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
I've actually played a couple of handheld games to the end of their support where you can just tell at the end where it's like, okay, they were either, this is like pre in-app purchase. It was like one time sale kind of thing where it's like you pay three bucks and you play it.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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and very popular they're making a lot of money everything is good six months go by a year people move on but then there's like this core there's like this group of people that just keep playing and i was one of them specifically a game called hero academy which is one of the best turn-based strategy games i've ever played and i loved it it was like chess with more complexity because your players couldn't just they could move a certain place but they also had special abilities and there was teams and it was just it was really well conceived and
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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And I played it so, so long that eventually like things just started breaking, you know, and they try it and the community rallied, like, can we open source the backend? And I was like part of that whole thing of like, can we keep this game going? The answer was no, we could not keep it going.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
But there's a weird place where video games get where it's like enough of a, of a player base to be popular and to probably make some money, but not enough to actually support ongoing effort for developers, you know? And so like businesses come in and, and ruin the fun. So, yeah.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Well, Anchor's also gone now. Spotify basically buys stuff and then –
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
It makes total sense. So Fireside then, rock solid, you describe it. Yeah. Growing? No. Shrinking?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Oh, that's amazing. I was a Gages customer. Yep. That's awesome. That was. Dot ES, right? Yeah. Dot ES. Yeah. Yeah. Which was against Google Analytics, right? It was like, it was cooler looking.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Yeah. It was worth the, what was the price on that sucker?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
But that one's not sticky because it's so easy to switch, right? You just, you know, new JavaScript snippet and you're out.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
So for our listeners' sake, Dan Benjamin, creator, founder of 5x5.tv, which is a podcast network that we were once on back in the yesteryear before we went to this platform. So when Adam said, I can't imagine running on somebody else's platform, I'm like, well, we have done it before, but we've been free for so long, it's hard for us to imagine going back.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Right. He built Fireside probably out of the code from 5x5, which I think was also a Rails app. And so that was something that he had dogfooded, so to speak, for years and decided to create a hosting platform and created a successful one. In the meantime, there has been a lot more people offering podcast hosting. Yeah, I mean, a lot. And even both in the small and in the large.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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So you have the big players like Spotify giving it away for free, but then you have, I would say, fireside competitors like Transistor who are killing it in the marketplace. I think Transistor, in terms of features, we are Transistor users through our partner podcasts, which we help produce Big Tent for Grafana, for instance. And we host their Big Tent podcast on Transistor.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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And so I'm familiar with the feature set and the offerings of that platform. And it's just really good. Shout out to... Is it Justin Jackson? Justin Jackson, yeah. Yeah, Justin Jackson. Shout out to Justin Jackson, who's probably been on our shows as well, I think.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Okay, so a very long time.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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He's been out there building Transistor. Started later than Dan, but... actively building that. So when you acquire something like this, of course, I guess with this one, it's your first time. So how do you know what you're going to do? But what's the strategy?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Is it just like, I'm going to maintain it and just continue to, you know, get maybe a little bit of growth, maybe not, but it's making money right now. Is it like all in, we're going to take it? you know, to the moon? What are you thinking when you buy this?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
So five years to pay it off with no growth to me sounds like a pretty good deal. How do you value such a piece of software, a business? How do you value a business like that? How do you guys come to that price?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
So you're open to current acquisitions. Like if somebody had a, has a rail SAS that they were thinking about selling, like you would, you'd hear them out, even though you're not actively looking right now.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
They wouldn't let you bet the farm. That's the problem.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Mm hmm. So your strategy is buy and hold. You mentioned that box out has had multiple acquisition attempts, one that you were ready to receive or take. Have you considered buy and flip not to reuse flipper pun, but like you could fix this up for five years and 10 X your, your equity, you know, just make it worth way more and find a new home for it. Have you considered that as a strategy?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
So what if we just created- Well, you just bought, so you definitely don't have to sell right now. Exactly. And we could probably, but yeah. You very much feel like you're in buy mode right now. Like you would love, you just bought and you're thinking about buying more. You're not thinking about selling anything. Yes.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
But maybe five years from now, you're thinking, because at a certain point, like Dan Benjamin, you know, we kind of get worn out or done. I'm not sure Dan's motivations, but he didn't want it anymore. He built it. He got a great business off the ground, very difficult thing to do. And eventually, He was looking for a new home for that.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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And a lot of us small business software people find ourselves in that situation of like, how do I exit this? Because, and what you're doing is you're collecting other people's exits. And then I wonder like, well, how do you then later exit that thing? Cause you're gonna have a bunch of holdings.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Yeah, it's like tiny. Yeah, I like tiny models as well.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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Well, we know he sold Castro because we've did a show with Castro, the fellow who bought Castro. Yeah. Castro was what he sold. So, okay. The model of buy makes sense, but aren't we talking about the eventual exit?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
I don't know. You may not know this, Sean, but this is the second lily pad analogy that Adam has done in the last month.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
What if you come across a SaaS app that has just an excellent business going on at a great price and you're friends with the owner and they just can't do it anymore? Yeah. It's not a Rails app.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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Okay, but if it's not Ruby, so it can be like a Sinatra thing. I'm not sure. Yeah, that'd be fine. Are people still building Sinatra things? I don't know.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
You might be giving more credence to frog decision-making than they actually put into it. I think they're more intuitive than all this thought that you're putting into it. Sure.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Yeah. Like what I do in other language or not. Like, well, if the business was right, like I was just trying to feel like what's more important to you.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Let me give you another hypothetical. This is in a different direction. Let's imagine you come across a new business. All the other things I just said are true. It is a Rails app, but you're out of money. Now at a certain point, this is what cashflow people do is they run out of money.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
They got cashflow every month, but they can't, they can no longer acquire because all they're doing is cashflow businesses. And so usually then they open up to more people's money. Is that something that you've considered?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Because that was a pretty good summary.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Did it add any herniated discs or that was accurate already? Number three, right?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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Makes sense. I just like to hear the ideas and think about them in my head. So I'm sure we are listening. No, I don't know if that's a good idea or not, but it's not something that I had ever heard. So certainly interesting.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Well, I wonder if you'd ever like start a fund or something, you know, like become...
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
It happens. Yeah.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Yeah, I mean, you got to do that math. You got to do the worst case, best case. And then you also need to do the what's more likely stuff, right? Yeah. We can't live in worst case and best case world though. We tend to make bad decisions if we just do those two.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
He gave you the lily pad metaphor. What else do you need? He called you Keaton Feldspar. Gosh, yes.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Oh, why don't we turn our thing into a hosting thing?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Heck yeah. I've always thought, I guess maybe I'm always less impressed with what we've built than maybe other people would be, so I discount it. That might be one part of it. The other part of it is... is that another job that we want? Because now you basically have two jobs, right? And maybe it is. And maybe it becomes the main thing.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
I'm certain that if we came across a business model that we both liked, and a software product that we could build, we could somehow use what we've currently built in order to promote that thing and make that the new thing that replaces this thing. But Is that what we want to do? Do we want to have a different kind of life? I don't know.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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You know, like if that thing comes across, maybe I would say, yes, let's try it. Let's go for it. But so far, all of our ideas have kind of been like, meh. Yeah. Maybe it would work. But now.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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Yeah. But also, it's our stuff, and you're listening to our show because you like our stuff, so it's more of what you like. Yeah. So, I mean, there's... There's strategy about that. You want to do it right. Everything we do, we want to do right.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Which is our main thing is saying that to each other. Let's keep the main thing the main thing.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Give the people what they came for.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
So we have our little sayings. Of course, we're podcasters. We say stuff to each other. You know, we have sayings. It's so good. I love that. It's like kind of having like your own little utility functions that you use, you know? Yeah. Oh, yeah. We have our little sayings like this whole Silicon Valley thing.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
He's mined this thing so deep right now that you have no idea how deep the Silicon Valley references go on this show because...
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
See, now we all want in on the Keenan Feldspar, you know, the fund. That's why we're trying to get him to a place where he's got to take our money and give us some cash flow back.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Yeah. So speaking of conferences, let's close with this. Give us a quick rails world recap because this is your first conference back or you've been doing a few of these.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Right, right, right. Coming back to the server side. And I do think that Rails is having a bit of a comeback of late. Yeah. renewed fervor, renewed people talking about it who wouldn't who weren't previously talking about it. Good, bad or indifferent. They're talking about it again. And I did see some of the real world vibe remotely via social networks.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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And it seemed like I got a little bit of the FOMO, you know, I was like, oh, man, it looks like actually a pretty decent conference. Maybe I should have been there.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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Gosh, that's what we do, man. Speaking of ATO 2024, shout out to our All Things Open coming soon, coming end of October. So we will be there. So soon. It's a little bit far away from you, John. You have to drive through some floods to get there probably, unfortunately. But the part of North Carolina that we are going to is clear and dry, right, Adam? Safe. Safe. Raleigh, North Carolina, the...
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Durham area is dry.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
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But yeah, I've been to Indiana. I never had a good, never had a reason to visit.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
Is there a regional conference? Is there a local thing that happens regularly?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
2026. Will you still be here? We'll still be here.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
That's right. All right, John, thanks so much for coming on. Thanks for talking. That was fun. It was fun. Good seeing you.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
The Moneyball approach (Interview)
We do it backwards now. First name once and then full name the rest of the show.
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Well, he's John.
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John Meade, John Nunemaker. Sorry. I went one level too deep.
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The backend or something or.
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Yes, please. This is due to the nature of the root word cav or atus, which means to be in a cave that is virtually impossible of collapsing. Let's go with that one. Okay. It's a very good fake if that's not real, isn't it? Adam picks that one. Well, let's start right there. Adam thinks cavarite means...
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When used in a sentence, it's often used with the word cave. I don't know. He wrote it himself. That's your own one. So you both made me read it, and then you selected it, and you get zero points. It's just too good.
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I don't understand the logic to that one.
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Thomas thought maybe cabaret meant somebody who stays out at night. Taylor wrote that one, so one point for Taylor.
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And Taylor thought it was the Bridgerton hat, but that one was Matt's. So one point for Matt. Boomtown band.
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That was a very good one. How do you pronounce that word? Bridgette Biscowett? I don't know. I just put in loads of letters and left it for you to worry about. You're making my job harder over here. Yep. And then almost a pile on, but not quite, Carol and Matt both went with a fictional material that has the ability to negate the force of gravity. That is Cavarite, first depicted by H.G.
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Wells in his 1901 scientific romance, The First Men in the Moon. So Carol and Matt both scored two points there, giving Matt three for the round. Carol two, Taylor one, Adam and... Thomas with zero. I also scored zero. I did not mention that caveat. If nobody picks the correct definition, I score three points for the round, which I'm at a zero.
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And so after round one, Matt in first with three, Carol with two, Taylor with one. We move now to round two. This is a non-STEM round, so broaden your horizons. And your word for round two is... Gallimaufry. That's spelled G-A-L-L-I-M-A-U-F-R-Y. Gallimaufry.
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That F really rocked your world, Taylor. Yeah, dude. All right. Well, please submit your fake definitions now.
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He does. It's really sweet. He furls his brow.
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Could she actually read minds?
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She would just say like if he's lying or if he's mad or whatever.
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That's a really good point.
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unprecedented Adam has submitted prior to somebody else wow congrats mate unless Taylor did you submit yours I didn't see it no no I'm doing it okay good you said you're disappointed watch his face he's still yeah yeah he's still he still looks concerned he's obviously thinking come on now he's now he's gonna be self-conscious because we're all staring I know I'm sorry Taylor I'm sorry do you know it's it's the meta game he's playing the meta game yeah yeah the meta game is the best game
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Can I apologize for looking cheerful? Yeah, it's a good thing.
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Alright, here comes Taylor's. Your leg's off.
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Oh, boy. Okay. We now have all of our definitions for round two. This is a non-stem word. Gallimaufry. Gallimaufry. Hard to say. Easy to define for Carol. She actually knew the definition of this one. So she sits this round out. She scores three points right off the bat. Really moving ourself into the lead. So you guys are playing catch up with Dr. Noob over there. Who should we read first?
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Let's read this one first. Gallimaufry, the back section of a Roman cathedral where communion is prepared.
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Communion. Oh, it's not that one then.
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Number two, a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and veggies. Number three, a concerned, pensive, downtrodden, forlorn face that is bound to need Botox injections, which some people are very, very self-conscious of. Carol, you meanie? I think that was the real definition. That was definitely the real definition.
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That's why Carol knew it.
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Number four, an originally Shakespearean character whose only purpose is to make another character trip or fall. And number five, a roofing material derived from aluminum.
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A roofing material derived Derived from aluminum. Roofie. There are your five definitions. Yeah, roofie material would be something entirely different. We will start with Thomas. You only have five to pick from, so it should be easier.
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welcome to changelog and friends a weekly talk show about sesquipedalians big thanks to our partners at fly.io over 3 million apps have launched on fly you can too in less than five minutes learn how at fly.io okay let's play
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Right. Yeah. All right, Matt, what do you think?
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Okay. I can reread some. If you just give me a one word. Yeah. One word summary of each. All right. That's a good challenge. If you were to chat GPT, what would you do? Number one was communion. Oh yeah. Number two was leftover. Number three would be forlorn. Forlorn face. Number four would be Shakespearean. Yep. And number five would be aluminium.
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All right. Fair enough. I've got a BS in logic. Matt picks aluminium. Yeah. We move now to Taylor, who has a concerned, pensive, downtrodden, forlorn face as he tries to select.
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We're starting one more. We're one away from a pylon here on Shakespeare. Shakespeare.
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Number two is a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and vegetables. Number four was an originally Shakespearean character whose only purpose is to make another character trip or fall.
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Moving on. Let's start right where Adam left off. Not with the moisturizer, but with a dish made from a mixture of leftover food, especially meat and vegetables. That's also known as a hodgepodge or a hash or a ragout or a gallimaufry. That is correct, Adam.
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So Adam scores two points. Good job, dude. Got the correct answer there. Wow. Matt was tricked by aluminium and Adam wrote aluminium. Did I read it correctly for you? Adam. For me? Did you spell it like that on purpose? Or did you luck into it? Because that is the British English.
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Okay, so you've been influenced by Johnny Ive. Makes sense. Well, it tricked Matt into picking it. So now you've got three points for the round.
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And there was a mini-pylon onto Shakespeare, this character who makes another character trip or fall, and that was Shakespearean Matt being Shakespearean himself. Oh, you cheeky bastard. Two points for Matt. Should have noticed the beard.
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Coming this summer. Carol has no idea what we're talking about. Dan Tan. Sorry, Dan Tan's a callback joke. That's a...
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We didn't know that you read.
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She reads a lot of Mishmash Jumbles, you know, or Gallimaufry's. I like that.
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I'm all romance novels, me.
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No. Do you use a pen name? Yeah. He stars in them. Matt Fryer?
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You've given him a foreign look on his face.
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Take that, Matt. Well, Taylor has to do stuff like that as he's in the rear here. One point so far through two rounds. He's only beating Thomas and myself, who are literally in the cellar. Well, you know, there's the caboose, then there's the rear. I don't know. These things are close together. In the middle is Adam with three. Probably feeling pretty good about his three-point round.
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And Matt and Carol tied. with five after two rounds. We move now to round three.
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And your word for round three is bunyip. Bunyip. That's B-U-N-Y-I-P. No. We're about to stem.
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Is it? Correct. This is a regular round. Carol Lee is already typing, so she might know this one. One of the random books. Sorry guys, I don't want to scare you, but she's already submitting pretty fast for a fake definition.
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Oh, so you like pre-write a bunch of definitions and then select. That's a strategy. There you go. Oh no. Not in the group DM, Taylor. No! That was a fake one.
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Taylor's now hiding so we don't look at his face while he thinks.
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Yeah. It's like when your Tamagotchi is at the brink of death.
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Look at Taylor. I think he's having a seizure. It's precious. She's convulsing down there. Oh, man. Now I'm just imagining each of you as different Tamagotchi characters. It's very odd. Thomas is just really easy to take care of.
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It's a little pet. It's a little digital pet, right?
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Were they all the same thing?
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I know that they had different personalities, right? Certain ones would need to eat more. Other ones would sleep more. Oh, they do have different... Yeah, I feel like the people had... I didn't know there was new Tamagotchis. I just figured it was a 1990s thing.
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I don't know if that's true.
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That would make sense. Everything comes back eventually.
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Who's she been telling this to?
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They just have a section on the news called, like, Diss on your kid.
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Well, maybe she just had to set the record straight. I mean, did she ask you to watch that particular program? Has anybody else submitted definitions? I have Thomas's and Carol's is correct. So she's going to score more points again.
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And you get three instead of two. Yeah.
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That is a one-upper if I ever say that.
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No, I think I was interviewing you for the show and we were talking about your name or something. Maybe it was prior to the show starting. Hopefully it wasn't on the air. But you were like, yeah, it's like trailer trash. I was like, okay. I wasn't going to say it, but you said it.
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We can listen to Change Logging Friends with Adam and Jerry and people you know. Change Logging Friends, it's your favorite ever show.
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And I think you had more of the look back then as well, didn't you? You still have the look?
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He had the mullet with the rat tail.
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Does it help you scratch your back or something? I don't understand.
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Hello, and welcome back to Pound Define, also known as Hash Define in less sophisticated areas, or Octothorpe Define if you're into obscure, made-up words, which we certainly are. And this game is all about obscure words and what they mean, also what they don't mean, as our intrepid contestants will be rewarded for lying. Like skilled politicians.
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kids all right we have all definitions for round three carol correct again three points we'll be sitting this round out two rounds in a row from the noob to the master perhaps we will see if this continues here we have five definitions of the word bunyip number one a mythical creature from australian mythology said to lurk in swamps and rivers
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Number two, the evolved ancestor of a bunny, which is the affectionate and informal name of a rabbit. Number three, a rocky enclave of a brook. Number four, a misshapen egg or an egg that looks atypical. And number five, contractions of the cord diaphragm and hairs similar to hiccups in humans. Bunyip. So there's five definitions of the word bunyip. Lots of rabbit connections there.
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In many of them, we will start with Matt. Bunyip. Bunyip. Well, I was trying to read Carol.
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Well, we can't tell what you're being real or not real with your mistakes. I mean, imagine you couldn't pronounce a word and then we left it in. The embarrassment. Yeah. That's what you do anyway. I'm British. True. Moving to Taylor. Which of these definitions do you think is bunyip?
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Yeah, Stoneface Carroll.
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All right, so number two was the evolved ancestor of a bunny. Number four was a misshapen egg. And number five was the contractions of the core diaphragm in hares, in bunnies, in rabbits, a hare, like H-A-R-E. Because a hare doesn't have a diaphragm, H-A-I-R. Just closing that loop. What are you thinking, Taylor?
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eggs dude so far from taylor we have shakespeare bruh and eggs dude yeah i'm liking these answers all right i'm gonna shape an egg all right taylor is on eggs adam where are you gonna land i'm following matt because he's got the second most points and he wrote the song you think taylor and thomas are bad i just feel like these are our former champs and they're thomas hasn't gone have you you haven't gone yet have you thomas no he hasn't okay oh
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Just in general, I said you're following the leaders.
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He chose the mythological creature. Australian myth. Sounds Australian. One more and it's a pile on. Well, there's only one more left. It's Thomas. Are you going to pile on? It's a pile on.
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It's a pile on. I'm feeling it. All right. Now, should we play the Pylon jingle, or should we have Matt write a new one real quick?
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Matt, how about a Pylon jingle? Can you give us that? Even better. Did you bring your guitar?
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I'm Jared Santo, your host on this ridiculous ride. And playing this round, it's our returning champion, Thomas Eckert. Welcome back, Thomas.
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Pylon song part three. That one's a Zoom background. Maybe put a little bit of some hair in it, a.k.a.
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You can have the letter J in there. We don't want to put too many constraints on you.
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It's pretty straightforward.
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All right, let's go to our results of the pile on. We had three out of the four. Guessing the mythical creature from Australian mythology. Carol, is that right?
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That's right. Carol knew that that was a bunyip. It's said to lurk in swamps and rivers. And so Matt, Adam, and Thomas each score two points. Taylor voted for the misshapen egg. Dude. And that egg was Matt's egg, dude. So Matt gets a bonus point for tricking Taylor into selecting his definition. That's three for Matt. That's three for Carol.
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I just made that up. Now, Carol couldn't remember what the monster looks like. So maybe it is an egg shaped monster. I don't know.
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Speaking of Carol, she will be playing the role of the noob, a.k.a. the doctor. It's Carol Lee, Ph.D., Welcome, Carol.
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And I've never seen one myself.
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Or clinical psychology word comes up. Well, we move now to round four. Of course, between Carol's correct answers and Matt tricking everybody, those two are tied still at first place with eight. So she's not running away with it.
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Let's move to round four. This round... It's called Give It a Goog. Give It a Goog. Oh, gosh. This is an abnormal round. Now, I went to Google.com. Have you heard of it? And I opened it in an incognito window. And I began to type something, and I stopped. And Google dutifully recommended me some autocompletes. I took the top autocomplete and I wrote it down.
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Your job in this round, give it a goog, is to write your own top autocomplete for this phrase. And we will select which one we think is the real autocomplete. The phrase I typed in to google.com was, why don't we? Why don't we? And then I stopped and I wrote down that top autocomplete. Now, do not go out to Google and try this for yourself. That would be immoral. Yeah. Yeah.
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Are you excited? Are you scared? You know what?
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Maybe on the dark side for sure. But go ahead and tell me what you think is the top autocomplete and we can see which one's correct. I have math's.
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chaos machine taylor is a chaos machine he's also a winning machine he's previously won this game as well so we have a few champions here of course you're referring to taylor troche what's up man what up how are you feeling are you feeling ambitious or mischievous or both i am feeling no i'm definitely feeling mischievous i want to okay i i don't want to win i just want i just want everyone to lose you know
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Are you sure she's on the good side or the evil side?
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That was sinister. I liked it. Okay, we have them all. Why don't we give it a goog? Oh, we did. And we were playing around as a result where we tried to autocomplete the phrase, why don't we? Here are six possible top autocompletes. Number one, why don't we live on Mars? Number two, why don't we drugs legal? Number three, why don't we print more money? Number four, why don't we eat turkey eggs?
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Number five, why don't we destroy the moon once and for all? Sorry, number six.
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Just the way I said that one. Once and for all, why don't we see dead people? That's number six. So we have six potential autocompletes. Taylor, which one do you think is the real one? Eggs. Eggs. Wow, you're very excited about eggs. Something's up with him and eggs. Yeah. Almost blew your mic out. Bunyip, dude. All right, Taylor picks eggs. Bunyip emphatically. Adam picks... I can't choose.
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At least once. We're just tired of all the tides. Well, actually, once and for all kind of implies that we did do it once, but it came back. It's like, well, we blew it up, but it wasn't once and for all.
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No, we want to do it once and for all. We did it, but it wasn't once and for all. It's twice then. He's got a point.
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I think we should do it twice and for some.
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Yeah, okay. Once more. One last time and everybody can partake.
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These are quick. I can read them all. For you? Yeah, please. All right. Number one was why don't we live on Mars? Number two, why don't we eat drugs legal? Number three, why don't we print more money? Number four, why don't we eat turkey eggs? Number five, why don't we destroy the moon once and for all? Number six, why don't we see dead people?
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Maybe it's like an actual product from where he's from.
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All right. Adam wants to go with money. Print, mo, money. All right, next up, Carol. Money, dude.
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All right. Carol goes for eggs. We are one away from a pile.
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Yeah. Premenopause chickens.
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Let's answer this question. Which goog is it? Somebody fact check Adam while he's answering because he just spat some real interesting science. It's Adam's turn still.
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Oh, no, you picked. I'm sorry.
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Yeah. My bad. You were just talking. It's actually your turn, Carol.
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I think David Bowie, didn't he live some life on Mars, didn't he? Matt, it's your turn. What are you thinking?
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It's not influenced by my personal interests.
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Ouch, dude. Come on, we got fertile cropland here. It's called the fertile plain for a reason, Thomas.
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And it's also a Nebraska thing.
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Good one, good one. We'll go with that one. My particular answer to that is, aren't they already doing that? Aren't we printing more money? It seems like we are printing more money.
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What we need is more trees.
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Yeah. I mean, that's why the Save the Rainforest people, we have to ignore them because we have to cut down more trees if we want to print money.
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All right. Let's find out our results here. Print more money. We'll start right there because that's where everybody wants to be. Adam and Matt printing more money. Why don't we? Well, Thomas, why don't we print more money? You were wondering that when you wrote that, weren't you?
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Two points to Thomas. Thomas said, why don't we live on Mars? He wants to know. The people demand an answer. And that was Matt's question as well. So one point for Matt. Trade you. Touché. Meanwhile, nobody picked destroy the moon once and for all. Much to Taylor's chagrin. And nobody picked see dead people. Much to Adam's chagrin. Nobody picked, why don't we drugs legal?
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Because Carol typed it wrong or something.
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Okay. Come on. I wasn't sure if that was a typo or not. I was going to help you correct it, but that was very good. That leaves us with the one real question that demands an answer. Why don't we eat turkey eggs?
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I don't know. Adam, did you look it up while you were sitting there? Postmenopausal.
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Why don't you Google it?
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yeah it's probably like rice where you just get it by the the bush so carol gets it right two points for carol and taylor gets it right two points for taylor now there were a few other contenders i thought it would be fun to read not number one of course number one was why don't we eat turkey eggs number two why don't we go back to the moon so opposite of destroying it okay
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Yeah. Matt's already getting his excuses lined up.
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Number three, why don't we fly over Antarctica? Good question. Number four, why don't we eat roosters? Maybe this is Nebraska. We're never going to get asked that in the UK. Number five, why don't we talk about Bruno? Good question.
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Number six, why don't we eat carnivores? I feel like it's not even true. It's not even true.
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Is that true, Matt? Well, you don't eat raw eggs. Oh. Salmonella. We've been told that you have salmonella poisoning. Yeah, yeah. Do you guys have that over there too?
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But I've seen Rocky and he drinks a bunch of eggs and he's fine.
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I don't know if it's hummingbird.
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And I want to own a very cold sparrow. Carol's in striking distance. I'm not even, I'm not even engaging in the conversation. We are only through four rounds and we're talking about, I mean, bird eggs and cold sparrows. We should move on to round five. After four rounds, Carol, almost in striking distance of a win here with 10 points. Matt in second with nine.
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Adam in third with five, Thomas fourth with four, and Taylor with three. Now, you guys have been using the spread quite well, and I have zero points because every round you have landed somebody at least on the answer.
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And I think that's... Which we found was an unfair advantage.
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It's true. Carol's actually the most educated. Although, Taylor, do you have a PhD?
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I'll tell you who you have to watch out for. It's the man who hasn't made a noise yet because he's over there strategizing. It's Adam Stachowiak. What's up, Adam?
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Round five is one of our newer style rounds. This is called namespace conflict. In this round, I have gone out to the hub of gets and I have found a repository called I will tell you the name of that GitHub repository, and you will write the tagline slash description. You know, whatever people would put in that tagline field on GitHub to describe their repository.
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And we'll see who can trick everybody into thinking theirs is the real repo tagline. Sound good?
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Thank you. I work very hard on these for your pleasure. The repo that you will describe or tag is called Firecrawl. Firecrawl. F-I-R-E-C-R-A-W-L, all one word, Firecrawl. Please write a tagline and submit it to me now.
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Oh, we're going to cut a lot of this one.
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The hardest part about this show is the, the running jokes when they run out of a, when they run out of a cuttable segment, we can't cut the segment anymore. So like, you know what I'm saying? So like this part might suck, but we brought up dead babies.
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Someone did say dead babies.
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I now have all five submissions. Let's play a game of namespace conflict. There is a repo on GitHub called Firecrawl. Here are six potential taglines for Firecrawl. Number one, crawling through firewalls since 2001. Number two, a full text search capabilities for build for Firebase. Number three, the missing search solution for Firebase.
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Number four, turn entire websites into LLM-ready markdown or structured data. Scrape, crawl, and extract with a single API. Number five, Firefox extension for crawling URLs. And number six, monitoring for Firebase websites. Gosh. There you have six potential taglines. We'll start with Carol.
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Jared here in the editing room. At this moment, Taylor's power cut out and he dropped offline. Thankfully, he scrambled and got reconnected using his phone, so we just skipped him and went on to Thomas. Taylor does make it back before the end of the round, but he missed some guesses, which explains why he just blindly picks the second one. Okay, hope that helps. Okay, we move to Thomas.
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Because maybe they stopped running it?
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I mean, if you really trust them. Like, is it down? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Yeah. Monitoring for Firebase websites goes to Thomas. I mean, go to Adam.
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Okay, Adam goes with Carol. We might need a new song that is not about piling on. It's about piggybacking. Taylor, it's your turn. What are you thinking for Fire Crawl?
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He's going to go with Vimba better. Number two, full-text search capabilities build for Firebase. Taylor goes with that one. All right. So we can start with... The Firefox extension, Matt thought maybe it was a Firefox extension for crawling URLs. That was Adam's tagline, one point for Adam. That's good. Nice one, Adam.
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Thomas wanted monitoring for Firebase websites, even though he knew there'd be no reason to have it if you have Google monitoring it. But he picked it anyways, and that was Taylor, so one point for Taylor. And Taylor went for full-text search for Firebase. That one was Matt's. One point for Matt.
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Well, that should play to your strengths in this game, shouldn't it?
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Meanwhile, Carol went for the long one, the LLM one, and Adam piggybacked, which is not exactly a pile on. It's more of a piggyback, which might need a song of its own. But they're correct. So that is the actual definition of the tagline for fire crawl. It turns your entire website into LLM ready markdown or structured data.
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carol gets two adam gets two plus the one he already got so he gets three for the round adam's in it to win it oh how close am i to winning after round five four points you have eight matt has 10 carol has 12 she's within striking distance we're only halfway through the rounds meanwhile thomas and taylor tied in last with four oh can i tell you guys about a cocktail i used to make
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Do you call it a fire crawl?
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Taylor's pining for bonus points, but he's not going to get a bonus point for that. We move now to round six. This is non-STEM, and it's also a bit nonsense. This word is a tough one. Round six, your word is... Cuomo Dockenkais.
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Well, let me briefly describe the game and then we will get right into it. This is the game of fake definitions. We have 10 rounds of play or 15 points scored will win. If you can get that done prior to 10 rounds, good on you. The way it works is I will present a word and the five of you will submit to me fake definitions of that word, unless you happen to know exactly what it means.
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Cuomo Dockenkais. That's one way to pronounce it. There are a few other pronunciations, but I won't try them.
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This word is spelled Q-U-O-M-O-D-O-C-U-N-Q-U-I-Z-E. Cuomo Dockenkais. We'll find out if it's in an old book, Carol, right when she was a kid.
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We got a real stumper here. Everybody's faces look forlorn. Yeah, the joy is gone from my thinking face.
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That would be a good title for this one. The doctor is in.
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That's true. That's kind of why we invited her. You're sick of your pomp and circumstance.
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Yeah, you're probably going to get the president elect. President of God. Jeez, man. Cuomo Dockenkais. That might be not how you say it. I don't know. It was really hard to get consensus on pronunciation.
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Well, you need it right now in order to win this game.
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Be careful. We'll make you sing a song about it. None of us want that to happen. I can't even pronounce it. Carol is within striking distance. She only needs three points to win. I have Taylor's and Carol's and Thomas's.
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I haven't read hers yet.
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All right, we have six definitions for Cuomo Dakenkais. And they're all over the board, which makes sense because you can't make much sense of this word. If anybody got this right, not even Carol. Number one, a political theory of history wherein technology leads to changes in the status quo. Number two, to make money by any means possible. Number three, the moon's last defense against humanity.
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Not one. Number four, the process of changing the features at rest of a movable object. Number five, when thrust reaches its maximum output, producing the greatest possible force to propel the vehicle. And number six, the process of documenting organizational procedures, quotas, and financial records for legal purposes. There you have six potential definitions for Cuomo Dockenkais.
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You can submit to me the correct definition and I will award you with three points immediately. If not, fake definitions are submitted, I gather them, I read them aloud in randomized orders, and then we go around the circle and see who can guess the correct definition. If you get it right at that point, You get two points.
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First three? Yeah. That was a lot of work, you know. Okay.
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There's a lot. This is a lot. And there's a lot on the line here. I mean, you're trying to win this game right now.
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All right. Number one was the political theory of history wherein technology leads to changes in the status quo. Number two was to make money by any means possible. And number three was the moon's last defense against humanity.
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Mm-hmm. Do you want to hear the other three? I do. All right, number four, the process of changing the features at rest of a movable object. Number five, when thrust reaches its maximum output, producing the greatest possible force to propel the vehicle. And number six, the process of documenting organizational procedures, quotas, and financial records for legal purposes.
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I know. That's all I can do.
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What's your thought process looking like?
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Well, two was the make money one and five was the thrust one.
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She's locking in two. Sorry, F it.
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She's saying bleep it, and she's going with two. Okay, we're moving on to Thomas.
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If somebody else picks your fake definition, you get one point per person, unless it's yourself. And we have a lot of fun along the way. Any questions before we hop into round one? The one bit of context here is the default style of word is STEM. So science, technology, engineering, and mathematics. We also include science fiction and fantasy, just to broaden it slightly.
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Yeah. I mean, yeah, you just don't get any points.
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Come on, man. Play the game.
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Yeah. Random. Always go for the money, I guess. You don't have anything else to do. Okay, Taylor.
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Moving the movable object.
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Process of changing the features at rest of a movable object. Or the possible force to propel the vehicle.
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Yeah. Okay. Well, I think piggybacking is a good way to finish second or third, but it's never a good way to beat somebody. Because you're always going to just be where you are plus their points. That's right. At least I'm coming up. It's a strat. It's just not a good one. Okay. but it was a good one this round because that is absolutely the right definition.
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It is to make money by any means possible. Oh, I fluked it too.
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Cuomo, Duncan, Kyes. Now, this is a Latin word from the 1600s. It's absolutely dead. No one uses it anymore. But that's what it used to mean.
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Well, that's entirely possible.
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Yeah, that's in there. You need to purge that. In the garbage collector. So that means that Adam scores two, Matt scores two, Carol scores two, but then she also just confessed that hers was number six, which Thomas selected, so she scores three. And Taylor picked Matt's, and that scores three because the movable object was Matt's. So both Matt and Carol score three.
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So after six rounds of play, Matt has 13 points, which is right on the doorstep of our winner, Carol, who has 15 points from noob to master. Congratulations.
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Yeah. I got to go back to childhood and read more. Or time travel back to childhood and read more.
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All right, well, congratulations to our winner. And I think she got round one correct, round two pre-correct, round three pre-correct, round four correct, round five correct, round six. She didn't miss a single one. I'm beginning to think there's value to education here.
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You have utterly dominated.
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Taylor, you have four points.
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Well, if there's more game to play, perhaps. Next time. Next time, we'll just not invite Carol back so that other people have a chance. Oh, that's what I said about Thomas last time.
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But there are also non-STEM rounds where any word will work. And I will let you guys know what those are as we go. But first round is a normal round. And your word for round one is... Cavarite. Cavarite, that's C-A-V-O-R-I-T-E. Please submit to me your definitions now. There are no bonus points for submitting first, but Adam will probably submit last. I have caroled.
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Apparently there's like levels of skill at this and we just found someone at a whole new level.
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I don't know. You proved it out here today. Now we do have a couple more. Does anybody got ahead? We got a couple more rounds that I prepared. Maybe we can play them for the bonus people or does anybody want to do it? They want to bonus it out.
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Yeah. We're going to nullify her victory and see if anybody can beat her to 20. Rude. No, let's just wipe the slate clean. Carol won the game. Now we're all back at zero. And we will just play a few more rounds and see what happens. Nice. Because I put a lot of work into this round seven.
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Yeah, take your clothes off.
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Okay. For you regular listeners, the show is over.
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Carol wins. Matt only sang one song, but we've got to get him to sing some more during the Plus Plus portion. If you're not a Plus Plus member, well, let's fix that bug. Go to changel.com slash plus plus. Sign up. Make your own feed. No ads. Matt Reier singing more songs. Taylor making a comeback and winning. I don't actually know what's going to happen, but it's going to be good. So there you go.
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I loved that when I was a kid. Buy an ab.
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Well, if you're an organ donor.
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Hey, I mean, some of us...
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Someone of us could use a little help, you know, get on the list.
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Okay, let's wrap this so we can start the next round.
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Well, that might be the weirdest pitch for Changelog++ ever, but this might be the best bonus for Changelog++ members ever. Taylor's brain breaks. We play 2.5 more rounds. Yes, that half round has an explanation. Matt sings two original songs about piggybacking. One of them is mysterious and pretty good. The other one gets super dark and creepy, if I'm being honest.
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And of course, we crown another winner. Can you guess who it might be?
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I have Thomas's, Matt's, and Taylor's.
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Just don't call them automagical, and I'll be fine. Let's see what our definitions were for round one. Our word was cavorite. Now, a quick disclaimer. As your humble host, it's difficult to read some of these definitions without laughing. My laughter does not indicate a fake definition. Every once in a while, I will laugh at the real definition in order to confound you. Question.
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We'll see. It's something that a caverite would do. I have a PhD in BS, so you will not know. All right, let's read our fake definitions and our real definition to the best of our ability. I will now maximize this so I can't see your faces. Cavarite, a type of equestrian gate between a trot and a gallop named for its cavorting nature. That's number one.
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Number two, a proprietary fixative used in dental practices to fix cavities. It was marketed with the slogan, Cavarite keeps your smile bright. That's a nice slogan. Number three, a style of hat made popular in the 1950s by Bridget Biscowit and the Boomtown Band. Number four, somebody who stays out late at night. Number five, when used in a sentence, it is often included with the word cave.
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Who's laughing? Caves together? Close? Yeah, this is due to nature of the root word, cav or atus, which means to be in a cave. Okay.
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Yeah. Right. That means to be in a cave that is virtually impossible of collapsing. All right. So there's the differentiator. It's a cave that cannot collapse. Or number six, a fictional material that has the ability to negate the force of gravity. Hmm. Those are six definitions for the word cavorite. Some better than others. Let's see what you all think. We'll start with Carol.
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Which do you think is the correct definition?
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The last one. The fictional material that has the ability to negate the force of gravity. Okay. We go now to Thomas.
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It's pretty early for a pile on. Yeah. Round one pile on. You can't do that.
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Yeah, it's between a trot and a gallop named for its cavorting nature. Yes. G.A.I.T.
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All right. Thank you for that context.
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It's not Taylor's caverite. It's not my caverite word.
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That's number four. Number two was the fixative using dental practices. All right, we go now to Matt. Which do you think is the correct definition?
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And that changed everything for you.
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That's number three, the style of hat made popular by Bridgerton Boom Boom. I believe it was the Boom Band, actually.
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Oh. When used in a sentence, it is often included with the word cave.
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I'm leaning towards one word. The Merriam-Webster dictionary and the Cambridge dictionary both say that it's two words.
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Yeah. Is this really where we're marching towards? I know this began as literally a pipe dream and it's becoming more real. You've had some sessions. You've, according to the, maybe I'm jumping the gun a little bit on your presentation here, but you've, you've podcasted about this slash live demo this and, We've been talking about the name. We've been talking about the roadmap.
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Is this really a true possibility to do this successfully?
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Yeah. Can we revisit the idea of this being a product? Single tenant, single purpose, simple seems like a replicated problem set.
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Well, there's this name for which we cannot name in regards to flying. It's more of a class of people, I would say, is probably that. I'll be even more vague. Sorry, listeners. That's so vague that I don't even know what you're talking about. There is some information. I'm not sure how much we can share. But then there's like Tigris that has led the way in a lot of ways.
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And I just talked to OVACE because, by the way, they may even be sponsoring this episode. Fly is not only a partner, but also a sponsor of our content. And I had a conversation with OVACE, who is one of the co-founders of Tigris.
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And he shared with me that if it weren't for Fly, it would have taken them years to build out all of the literal machines across the world with the NVMe drives necessary to be as fast, to be what Tigris has promised. And I don't want to spoil it for everybody, but Tigris basically is...
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an up-and-coming s3 and because of the way that fly networks and because the way that fly handles machines across the world and the entire platform that fly is very developer focused tigris was able i think within nine months to stand up tigris And so you can deploy Tigris via a single command in the Fly CLI, and then you can also have all of your billing handled inside there. This is not an ad.
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I'm just describing it. But when I said that back in the day, I was thinking about Tigris because I had first learned about them and knew about this story, and I knew they were built on Fly. I knew their story was only possible because of what Fly has done. And I think that this pipe dream is realized or capable of being realized because of fly being what fly is.
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And I feel like we have this simple nature, sort of the, I said really simple CDN, but I'm not tied to that because RSS is, you know, kind of one of the really simple part of it. But I think that's kind of what it is. It's like, I feel like other people will have this and it can certainly live in this world of fly. Yeah.
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Are you going to rug pull these people before there's a rug down?
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Okay. Constantly updated speech AI models at your fingertips. Well, at your API fingertips, that is. A good next step is to go to their playground. You can test out their models for free right there in the browser. Or you can get started with a $50 credit at assemblyai.com slash practical AI. Again, that's assemblyai.com slash practical AI.
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Okay, friends, here are the top 10 launches from Supabase's launch week number 12. Read all the details about this launch at supabase.com slash launch week. Okay, here we go. Number 10, Snaplet is now open source. The company Snaplet is shutting down, but their source code is open.
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They're releasing three tools under the MIT license for copying data, seeding databases, and taking database snapshots. Number nine, you can use PG Replicate to copy data, full table copies, and CDC from Postgres to any other data system. Today it supports BigQuery, DuckDB, and MotherDuck with more syncs to be added in the future.
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Number eight, Vect2PG, a new CLI utility for migrating data for vector databases to SuperBase or any Postgres instance with PG Vector. You could use it today with Pinecone and QDrant. More will be added in the future. Number seven, the official Supabase extension for VS Code and GitHub Copilot is here. And it's here to make your development with Supabase and VS Code even more delightful.
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Number six, official Python support is here. As Supabase has grown, the AI and ML community have just blown up Supabase. And many of these folks are Pythonistas. So Python support expands. Number five, they released log drains so you can export logs generated by your super-based products to external destinations like Datadog or custom endpoints.
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Number four, authorization for real-time broadcast and presence is now public beta. You can now convert a real-time channel into an authorized channel using RLS policies in two steps. Number three, bring your own Auth0, Cognito, or Firebase.
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This is actually a few different announcements, support for third-party auth providers, phone-based multi-factor authentication, that's SMS and WhatsApp, and new auth hooks for SMS and email. Number two, build Postgres wrappers with Wasm. They released support for Wasm, WebAssembly, Foreign Data Wrapper. With this feature, anyone can create an FDW and share it with the Supabase community.
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You can build Postgres interfaces to anything on the internet. And number one, Postgres.new. Yes, Postgres.new is an in-browser Postgres with an AI interface. With Postgres.new, you can instantly spin up an unlimited number of Postgres databases that run directly in your browser and soon deploy them to S3. Okay, one more thing. There is now an entire book written about Supabase.
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David Lorenz spent a year working on this book, and it's awesome. Level up your Supabase skills and support David and purchase the book. Links are in the show notes. That's it. Superbase launch week number 12 was massive. So much to cover. I hope you enjoyed it.
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Go to superbase.com slash launch week to get all the details on this launch or go to superbase.com slash changelogpod for one month of Superbase Pro for free. That's S-U-P-A-B-A-S-E dot com slash changelogpod. What's next?
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That would be cool, actually. Yeah. Super dope.
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My outcome was I loaded the URL into my clipboard on my iPhone, opened up Overcast, add podcast via URL, did that, clicked add URL, and it says not a valid URL. Does yours have a start date? No. Okay. I don't think so.
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This has been weeks for me. I just haven't reported it to you yet.
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Are you waiting for this? Yes. Public embarrassment. Okay. No, just the fact that I just haven't done it yet. I'm sorry.
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Let's see here. Copy link. Did it solve my problem? Let me enter it. Boom, goes the dynamite. It's at least not yelling at me.
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Right. Okay, next question then. This is a UX question. I am not a plus plus subscriber, but I can click the option and I assume it does nothing to say this feed should contain plus plus ad free extended audio. I haven't clicked play because I just literally loaded it for the first time now, but I'm assuming that I won't have plus plus content because I'm not a plus plus subscriber. Is that true?
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No, I do have plus plus content.
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Okay, gotcha. So does this check then only show up for people who can check it?
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Okay, that makes more sense then.
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Is there a cost center? with these custom feeds? Like, is there an additive to the cost if we were having to deal with costs? Marginal.
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Okay. So the copy can be updated pretty easily. It's probably a fix going on already for that because it's so simple. For the ships, it'll be out there. Good. Well, because I mean, I was like, well, how do I get this URL to my iPhone? I guess I can like copy it and like airdrop it to my iPhone. Maybe it'll open up in the browser.
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And I was like, well, let me just go on the web and, you know, get URL essentially.
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Yeah, I agree. It kind of requires some workaround. There's really nothing you can do about that, right? I mean, you're adding literally a custom feed via URL that no index knows about. So it's obvious you have to do some sort of workaround to get there, to get your feed into your... Yeah, I mean, a better UX would be...
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Yeah, I like that idea a lot. Email them every time it changes that they go upon creation and now that is immutable until, well, theoretically mutable until they edit it again and then it's muted. You know? So it's in stone. Yeah, it's mutated.
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Yeah. Cause you don't know about the email.
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Well, that would have solved the problem of me having to get the data onto my iPhone.
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Custom feeds are here, y'all. If you're a Plus Plus subscriber, by the way, changelog.com slash plus plus. It's better.
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That's the other catch, right?
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Listeners, you could do this too. You can follow these same instructions. It is in Maine. I think it's Friday, September 6th. Okay. Jared posted it as a reply to after that conversation. Now we're trying out Zulip in earnest. And there's a link that says join Zulip here. And it's a long link that I could read on the air, but no one would ever hand type that in. I agree.
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You can put it in the show notes though. So it might be there. So there you go. Yeah. We've shared our thoughts already elsewhere on friends with this, but you know, I'll be, I'd be curious. We'll be so many Kaizen's away. Well, at least one more Kaizen away multiple months before we get Gerhards.
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Yeah, historically too slow.
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Well, the flow, it seems, is every time new code is pushed to our primary branch on the repository, a new deploy is queued up. And this process happens for each new commit to the primary branch. A new application is spun up, it's promoted, so if I deploy slash push new code, and then a minute later Jared does the same thing... My push does this process. My application is promoted.
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Jared's commit does the same thing. His application is then promoted. And that's via networking. And then these old machines are just, you know, like thrown off and then the new machines are promoted and they just fall by the wayside. Correct. Which totally makes sense. I think you have things happening that we want to happen.
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I agree with you on the low hanging fruit, but on the app boot process, we've got even things like 1Password being those things being injected from their CLI. I'd imagine that API call is not strenuous, but it's probably seconds, right? Yeah.
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So there's probably in each thing we're booting up as part of the app boot process for every commit, there's at least one to several seconds per thing we're instantiating upon boot. Well, that's just me hypothesizing how things work.
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Is it the CPUs then that's impacting it, you think? Like the CPUs and the horsepower behind the build test?
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Exactly, so- What exactly does namespace do though? I mean, are they just, is it just a machine that has proprietary code on it that we send something to to do a build process?
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And I'm also here with Todd Kaufman, CEO of Test Double, testdouble.com. You may know Test Double from our good friend, Justin Searles. So Todd, on your homepage, I see an awesome quote from Eileen. You could tell she says, quote, hot take. Just have Test Double build all your stuff.
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Take me one layer deeper on this engagement. How many folks did you apply to this engagement? What was the objective? What did you do, etc. ?
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What's up, friends? I'm here with a new friend of ours over at Assembly AI, founder and CEO Dylan Fox. Dylan, tell me about Universal One. This is the newest, most powerful speech AI model to date. You released this recently. Tell me more.
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Very cool, Todd. I love it. Find out more about Test Double's software investment problem solvers at testdouble.com. That's testdouble.com, T-E-S-T-D-O-U-B-L-E.com.
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I think the question I have is, you know, while the thresholds are low and we're below our overallocation, you know, what should we expect? And this is good news. This is good news that we're not.
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Gotcha. Yeah. I'm in the dashboard too, and I'm looking at a different section of that same monitoring section, which is like rows. I believe rows being added, which is kind of cool because over time you can kind of see your database updates essentially deleted, updated, inserted. So there's definitely obviously activity. We're aware of that.
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I think the other things that we should pay attention to in terms of is it working for us as expected is, I would say some of that is potentially on you, Jared, and you too, Gerhard, is that we've got the idea of branching. Gerhard, I know that you're familiar with it because you demonstrated some of this last time we talked, but being able to integrate some of those futuristic, let's just say,
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features into a database platform. This is managed. It's serverless. We don't have to manage it. We get a great dashboard. We get the opportunity for branches. Have you been using branches, Jared? Do you need to use branches? Does that workflow not matter to you? I think that's the DX and the performance is the two things I think I care about.
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And so the idea would be to just automate some of that, not have to go through all the steps. Still do the CLI installation like any normal user would. Correct. But maybe a neon setup script that probably populates a file with credentials or something.
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Speaking of one password, did you notice their new SDKs? Is that, did you pay attention to their new SDKs they deployed? TypeScript, Go, a couple others for native integrations. Obviously we're Elixir, so it doesn't really matter to us, but maybe in some of the Go pipelining, I know you've probably done. Would it make sense to skip OP and go straight to Go with the SDK? Yeah.
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Because OP is their CLI, right? It's same. It's not an SDK. The SDK lets you native integrate into the language.
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Well, that's where my, that's where my personal angst relies. It just, it lives right there in that question. How many times, what is the pain level it's high for me?
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And what should we expect to see when we type in just contribute? Is instructions or a set?
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I like this. I mean, I did run just in our repository. You get contribute, deps, dev, install. These are all the actions or recipes. Correct. Install, Postgres down, Postgres up, tests. And each of those have a little hashtag next to it, which is a comment, essentially, of what the recipe does.
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So over time we can expect to see more of these just recipes if this pans out to be, you know, long term. These recipes will potentially get more and these will be a reliable way to do things within the repository.
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Without, one more question on this, without me having to read the docs, thank you, if you can help me on this, can I do just dash n install, so I can just see what it might, I'm just using the word just so many times, can I just see what it might do?
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I assume that because like any good hacker that writes a CLI that's worth his weight in gold would always include a dash in, right? A dry run, yeah. Good job. What was his name? The maintainer?
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C-A-S-E-Y. GitHub.com slash C-A-S-E-Y. GitHub.com slash... I'm just kidding. I was going to say it one more time. Thanks, Casey. Are we stuck in a loop? Rod or more? Rod armor.
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Casey, Rod armor. Correct us if that's correct or correct us if it's not correct or don't correct us, but go to getup.com slash Casey, C-A-S-E-Y. Just do it. Just do it. Just do it. That's a good one. I like it. That's cool, man. Thank you for doing that.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
I almost commented on that. It's not quite a home lab. It's more of a mobile lab.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Yeah. You can like clip them to your shirt. Something like that.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
I think the Just stuff with the database and branching with Jared being able to pull that down to be a small but big win. Okay. I think, you know, continued progress, obviously, on the Pipe Dream. Pipely.tech.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
No, but it's available.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
It is available for $10.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Where's the, where's the data being stored?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Okay. So Pipedream is just, what exactly does Pipedream do?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
I was just thinking about expiring because we just did this yesterday where we had to correct a deployed slash published episode. And we ran into a scenario where FASC was caching, obviously, because it's the CDN. And then I went into the FASC service and purged that URL. And then it wasn't doing what we expected. And I bailed on it and handed it to Jared.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
And Jared checked into R2 and R2 was also caching. And so we essentially had this scenario where our application was not telling the CDN that this content is new, expire the old, purge, et cetera. And I just wonder, in most cases, aside from the application generating new feeds, which happens usually at the action of a user, so me, Jared, somebody else publishes an episode or republishes,
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Couldn't the expiry command, so to speak, come from that action and inform the CDN?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
I see. So the question was mechanically how to actually purge the cache, not so much when.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Yeah. Otherwise you don't do it. Please don't. It doesn't make any sense. Change hasn't happened, so don't change. Okay. How plausible is this pipe dream? Should we rename it to something else because it's not a pipe dream anymore or less of a pipe dream? Yeah. Obviously, I'm not suggesting that naturally, but like it becomes real. Does it become an oxymoron when it becomes real?
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
And the CDN is a pipe, right? I mean, it is a pipe. Yeah, exactly.
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Camel case, no space, space...
The Changelog: Software Development, Open Source
Kaizen! Just do it (Friends)
Very cool. So Dylan, one thing I love is this playground you have. You can go there, assemblyai.com slash playground, and you can just play around with all the things that is assembly. Is this the recommended path? Is this the try before you buy?