Jared Hudson
Appearances
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
This is a couple years ago. But they've arrested like 190 people doing these operations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yep, close to Indianapolis. So with that being said... put it this way, I'd love for them to be over 200. I know they're under 200, right? That's still a lot of people. They've done five operations and they've made this many arrests on people showing up to target kids and they've honed it for them. So we give them a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
hey, this is your template, and then they can hone it to match their prosecutorial jurisdiction, to match their agency so they have a successful apprehension and prosecution. And that's what we do as an organization. We're not out there kicking doors and making arrests.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If we are doing that, I'm doing that in my purview as a deputy where I'm sworn in Alabama or as a TFO with Homeland Security if they say, hey, we've got this we want to do, or any of our guys that run their cases that are sworn within our organization, which are most of our guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So we might do that with our agency, but Covenant Rescue Group is a funding platform to fund this training and then an operation for a law enforcement agency to show them, this is how you can target people who are targeting kids in your community, and it happens in every community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We always get Buddy Mons, the sheriff down in South Alabama, said, hey, man, you'll be lucky to get one down here, but you want to offer a SWAT training to us? We'll do it and let you set it up, but I don't think you're going to have any success. We arrested six and two nights for them. No kidding. He was blown away. They had one hotel, and it was like a little meth monkey hotel.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was one of the ones, a motel with the outside doors. It wasn't like it was a nice upscale place. And we arrested six dudes showing up for children at that hotel.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The sheriff told me that. I'm friends with the sheriff. Why did he think that? Because people don't believe this exists when they're in community. Everybody thinks, oh, yeah, that's big. That's a problem in Miami. That's a problem in L.A. with the ditty parties and all that stuff. That's where everybody's mind goes. But what they don't realize is what you just said.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Fifty percent of the dudes that you had come here to sit and talk, it happens everywhere across the nation. And the guys that you're rolling and the ladies that you're rolling on these types of decoy operations, they have real victims. They have real victims, but most of them don't break the law to get caught for anything. You'll never find that kid who's a victim because what recourse they have.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
This is my dad. Are you going to go to the cops and tell them my dad? Again, they're a kid. This is a person of trust in their life. It's a guardian over them, right? And so this guardian is doing a terrible job, and they're abusing this child. They're exploiting this child. They might be selling the child a lot of its child porn production, yada, yada, yada.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But you have to find a way to catch them, and this is how you catch them. And when you make that arrest, you then find the victim. And I can't tell you how many phones we've gotten warrants and ripped the data off the phone, and you've already had a podcast about that, kind of how to find these guys and all of the stuff that they're into. And you will find victims every single time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And our goal is to teach law enforcement agencies how to target these individuals who are targeting kids. So they're showing up for a 14-year-old girl, but in reality, they're messing with their nine-year-old niece. Does that make sense? And that's what we do, and that's what it's morphed into. Going all the way back to the— Let me break it down a little bit more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
From what I've gathered, you just hit the nail on the head. And you've interviewed guys. I mean, how many guys have you interviewed on here where this is them telling you what they've gone through and you said some of them don't want to say it? Probably the first time they've talked about it with anybody, maybe outside of their wife. Maybe they talked about it with their wife. Maybe they didn't.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But I mean, it's... It's not something that people, oh, yeah, we can just make it better by dialing them out and now I'm rescued. No. And then the other problem is kids are scared. Even if I'm being treated poorly by those who are taking care of me, where do I go when they go to jail? Let's say they do realize that this is something wrong. They get put in jail for it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Where do I go now when they go to the state? Most state systems have a DHR or something like that, and there's a process you have to go through. So it's not like a rescue where you're all of a sudden united with a great family. There is no no good answer. It's not like a fairy tale. It's not a Disney movie where it's all of a sudden better at the end.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Every situation when it comes to this is bad, and sometimes it's worse than the previous situation. A real-world example, a young lady, I won't give her name, she was 14 when she ran away from home, 15 when she was picked up, 16 when we found her locked in a cage in a backyard. up in the northern U.S., we'll leave it with.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But she ran away from home from her mama and her stepdaddy because she was being sexually abused by her stepdaddy. I'm trying to remember this right. Sexually abused by her stepdaddy. Her mama was in and out of jail in Texas. She ran away, ran back to Michigan. And She lived with her dad and her brother.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
She wasn't being sexually abused by her dad and brother, but they were physically abusing her, putting cigarettes out on her, that sort of stuff, physical abuse. So she ran away from them and got picked up by some 23-year-old kid slinging dope on the street. And so he picked her up. Now, she's his live-in girlfriend. He's, you know, banging her, all that stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then he would sell her to his buddies. Now, she's being trafficked. She's underage and being trafficked. But for her... This was the better of the three lives she lived. So, you know, that's the hard part. And then when we found her, she was locked in a cage in the backyard. Went and talked. And anyway, without going too much into that, she's... From her boyfriend? Yeah, her boyfriend.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He would leave during the day. He locked her in a cage in the back. Yeah, we had a little marijuana going on back there. Yeah, yeah. Wait, did you say what kind of cage? A cage. Yeah, like a... Yeah, like a chicken coop or something. I mean, she could stand up in it, you know, but it's like a little marijuana grove hidden back there in the fence in the back, and she was locked back there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And she was a runaway. So technically, it wasn't like, and we had to tell some of our board members that, like, can we get videos of her reuniting with the family and all that? There is no reuniting with the family. That's why she's here. And that's where that percentage comes in that most people don't understand is it stems from a family issue.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then there's a lack of trust for law enforcement and it going all the way back to having to have somebody testify for a crime. Well, most of these people, especially kids or young women, they're scared to testify because, well, this guy's going to get out on bail. He's going to get out and he's going to come find me and kill me, even though that might not be true.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We get that all the time, interviewing people. I don't want to testify. We have a good system, but we have a system that sometimes is not good when it comes to dealing with these things. And it's very precarious, but you hit the nail on the head with, it's not as easy as, oh yeah, if your dad's raping you, just turn him in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If your mom and dad's selling you, if your uncle's selling you to his buddies for sex, just turn him in. It's not that easy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, you know that better than anybody. I mean, you've interviewed enough people to talk with them and see. when hindsight's 20-20 and they might be able to talk about what they realize. It's kind of like us with Afghanistan and Iraq and all this stuff. I'd be ready to fist fight somebody over talking bad about the U.S. and what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan back when I was in the teams. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But now... I'm more apt to, yeah, it's a different perspective. It's the same thing with these people, just on a much more damaging level, I guess. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, I have no idea. So the state, so most states... If they have a missing kid or something like that, a runaway kid, and that's how we found her, they would work in one of the sheriff's offices up there. The state, like DHR, Child Protection Services, they'll take over. They'll find the next of kin or they'll hold them in it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
again sometimes that that creates more of a problem than just where they're where they're at even damn so i mean it's again there's no good answer so her i know that dhr child protection service whatever it's called in in in that state or in that county um i know that they dealt with that what the disposition of that was i don't know let's go back to the town where you
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Oh yeah, it's small. It's Henry County, Alabama. So it's a small county.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I've known this sheriff, this guy just got elected sheriff. I've known him for a while and he's a good guy. His name is Eric Blankenship. But anyway, so EB says, hey dude, let's do the tactical training, but I don't think you're gonna get to hook anybody. I said, well, just let us teach you the process and we'll get what we get. This is not a prostitution sting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Law enforcement commonly does prostitution stings. And the reason they do that is because prostitution across the nation is a misdemeanor crime, but that gives them their probable cause for hopefully a felony drug arrest, maybe finding a certain person's forbidden or a warrant.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So they're looking at a pretty shoddy, pretty shaky misdemeanor case, although they've got it, to hopefully lead to a bigger case. Does that make sense? That's why they do prostitution stings. And then sometimes they find human trafficking in prostitution. We don't like that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We like building a felony case on the front end to hopefully find victims, whether they're of age or underage, of real human trafficking. And so we show them how to do that, and we say, this is not a prostitution sting. We don't care about drugs. We're not looking for drugs or murder or warrants or any of those things. If we find them, great. We still move forward with them like we normally would.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it's actually a very professional, not just interview, but build a relationship, and then you sit down for the interview. So very impressed, brother. Thank you. Not that it means much, but I'm impressed. That means the world to me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, Abraham was a great example. In Genesis, I think, chapter 24, it says, Abraham had faith in God, and it was accounted to him as righteousness. So, those people, even those people alive now who might not have heard Jesus' name, God has given enough of Himself to them that they can have faith in God that He will deliver them from their sinful physical nature, what we see here on earth, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But this is our focus, and it's solicitation of a minor with an electronic device. And I'll give you this county in Alabama. for the Alabama state law. It'd be 13-A-6-1-2-2, 13-A-6-1-2-4, solicitation of a minor and travel to meet a minor for sexual purposes, because they're going to show up to the location.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then 13-A-6-1-5-3, I believe it is, which is human trafficking one attempt in the state of Alabama. It meets state law for human trafficking one attempt. Those are the three felony charges we're looking for. The last one that we might get is 13A6111, which is transmitting obscene material to a minor.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's like if somebody sends a nude picture of themselves or sending those bad images to a minor, right? And these guys reach out to us. So we start off with a decoy-based operation on a sex platform. Backpage used to be the big thing. I'll just say back. You remember when Backpage, you've ever heard of the Fed? Shut it down. But you can run ads on a bunch of different things.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I won't name the places that we run ads normally, but you go to one of these sex sites like Backpage, and you run an ad that says, hey, it's a girl. It's 19 years old. And these sites, by the way, they allow us with our law enforcement –
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
email to run these ads without getting kicked off because what we'll do is we'll have somebody reach out, hey, are you available for a QV, for a quick visit, or how much for a quick visit?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And so we have our law enforcement investigator that we're teaching how to chat, teaching the lingo, and we're just kind of over their shoulder, hey, you need to say this, or maybe we're on the phone with them showing them what to say. and send it back, yeah, you're cool with young chicks. They're going through the process because we have to establish an age.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We're already on a sex site, so we know what they're there for, and we have to establish an age. If we chat 1,000 people, I like using the 1,000 people as an example.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If we chat 1,000 people, 900 of them won't answer you back when you tell them that you're underage or you're young, if you tell them you're 15 or 14 or 13, whatever age that the prosecutor requires in the area we're in, because it's different not just per state, per county, per jurisdiction. So most of the time, 900 of those 1,000 people won't even respond, or they'll tell you to pound sand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They'll say, you don't need to be doing this, and they won't answer back. A hundred of those people will entertain it. They'll entertain it. So 10% will converse back and forth, entertain. They might say, you don't need to be doing this. Let's talk. But still, they're entertaining it. 10 of those thousand will show up to the door, will show up and buy again.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Those are the ones we're looking for because now they've committed the overt act. And now we've got a solid airtight case that they can't wiggle out of. They're gonna get prosecuted. So we have the apprehension when they show up and we have the prosecution. We also do mobile stings, we do vehicle takedowns, but they're still showing up to meet us in a vehicle.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that is how we target these specific individuals. Now, when you target that specific individual, our probable cause case is generally built off of messaging through a phone or whatever messaging platform. So we have to tie those messages together. That's easy. We have that. But when we do that, we get a warrant to rip the data off the phone.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You're familiar with that with your work with the agency and all that stuff. So we will rip the data off the phone via warrant, sometimes via consent, but very rarely do we get that. Most of the time it's a warrant based on our probable cause arrest. And we rip the data on the phone. That's where you find the victims. You find other people they're messaging.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What we see going on all around us. This the terrible world that we live in that is destruction, right? How can we be delivered from this into the good things that we see, right? The creation that's in animosity toward us because we're the ones who subjected it to sin, right? Paul talks about that in the New Testament. So how can we be one with God?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You find other kids that they've either received child porn, so you see child porn distribution, child porn production and distribution, and you start finding other victims. And that's where you find individuals who are truly nefarious. And then also not just kids, but also women. We had a guy who was rolled, he had a woman locked in a trailer that he was performing sex acts on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
She was an illegal immigrant. And he would snatch her, lock her up for three days, do all kinds of stuff and release her. And then it just kind of intermittent would do this. And she had no recourse. She was afraid to go to the police. She was in her 30s. Why was she afraid to go to the police? Well, she thought she'd be deported, right? So that's real victims.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Those are real trafficked people, people who were suffering. Now, she wasn't stolen and put in a circle and sold all over. She would be released a couple days later, go back to her family. But this is what was happening to her because she had no recourse. So you find victims in this. Now, the rescue doesn't always look what we think it looks like. That woman was just like, thank you so much.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I can breathe now and go back to my normal life without this guy doing this stuff to me. The other thing we see is a lot of illegal immigrants. If we did, we arrested seven last week with a couple agencies, and three of the seven were illegal immigrants, so they'll be deported. We've seen that tick up even more and more.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The six that I was talking about down in Henry County a couple years ago when the sheriff said you won't get anybody, two of those were illegal immigrants. One, we did a pretty extensive interview with, I say we, the Homeland Security guy in charge that did an extensive interview with, and one of the interesting things that the guy said, he said, hey,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I can show you exactly where I crossed the border. I crossed with some really bad people. We're like, what do you mean really bad people? And so he started, he said, all men describing who they are. I mean, we have terrorist cells in this country that are crossing the border.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So there's some of that stuff that you're able to dig deeper into and that then the FBI or Homeland Security, whoever will get a hold of and be able to run that in a little bit deeper. So these operations are kind of a...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They span out into multiple things, where it might be child exploitation, it might be prostitution-based human trafficking, it might go to labor trafficking, it might go to a terrorist cell that is moving people across the border, or a terrorist cell that got moved across the border. It might just be strict illegal immigration, and we now can deport somebody.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it kind of flowers off into a bunch of different pedals, child porn production and distribution. And so that's why we like running these operations, because generally speaking, when they see it, they're easy to do, and it gives the law enforcement agency the most bang for their buck there at the local level. The feds then have the ability to adopt that case.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And whatever state you work in, the US Attorney's Office generally wants to adopt a solid state case. So if you have a solid state case, they'll look at it and say, do we have a federal nexus here? We have a federal nexus with this one because we've got child porn production and distribution with this guy and his 18-month-old daughter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then the feds will step in and they'll be able to levy some heavy charges, prosecution and sentencing on that end to coincide with what this guy's already getting at the state level. Because every state doesn't have that same heavy lever to pull when it comes to maybe child porn distribution. So the reason I say all that, that's how everything works together.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not always perfect, but the goal is to just target these individuals who are targeting... targeting kids. And generally speaking, when you find that, you find they have other victims, other people they're targeting. Damn. So just webs and webs and webs. Yep. A never-ending web is what it feels like a lot of times.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Women. All women? I would say that the biggest demographic that's targeted is women. And then if it's never grown men are targeted, boys are targeted, but women more so than anything. DOJ and American Psychiatric Association statistic on this end is for every male-female encounter, opposite sex encounter, primarily male to female, there are 50 victims before the perpetrator is prosecuted. 50?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
we look to God and have faith that He is going to work it out in us, whether we know Jesus or not, and that was Abraham. He had faith in what God was going to do, and then for us, now we've heard the name of Jesus, and we look back and we have faith on what God has already done in the person of Jesus Christ. So really, it's not a... It's not that difficult.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
50 victims, yeah. That's the statistic. I think they said plus or minus 10% in their study, and this study is like 15 years old. For every same-sex or primarily male-to-male, right, it's 150 victims plus or minus 10% before the perpetrator is prosecuted. Yeah. So you might get an apprehension. You might actually make an arrest. But if you don't have a prosecution, you've done nothing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Damn, man. Damn.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, I would tell you on these style of operations, the only way we get the felony charges on the front end, which is what we want, is to build a case based on minors. With that being said, man, it's probably on the victim side. I would have to talk to our victim advocate about this because she tracks with us probably more than I do, but I would say it's pretty—
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And we see it with coaches. When we say coaches, pastors, doctors, it doesn't matter. Any side of the aisle, Republican, Democrat, left, right, doesn't really matter. It is sin. It is unbelievable wickedness, and they are targeting the weakest in society. The most prolific, I guess, would be the word. I forget his name, but...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
one of the most prolific child predators in the U.S., I think he was out of Indiana, they asked him, they said, what do you look at when you target a kid? Is there a demographic? Is there a boy or girl? And I think he concentrated more on boys. I think he primarily a white demographic because where he was at in Indiana. But he didn't seem to, he said that that really wasn't what he looked at.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He looked at two things. One, Does this kid have a father? Where was the father at in this kid's life? And was the father a threat? So two things he looked at. One, does this kid have a dad that's around? Two, is the dad a threat? That blew my mind. I'll send you the video link or I'll get Steven to send it over so you can see it. Was the father a threat?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's like, holy crap, be a threat for your kid's sake. Now, everybody talks about the mama bear thing. And mamas will protect their babies, but this is what he said. They said, what about a single? I said, no, father, what about moms? He said, no, he said, I would befriend the mother. And he would be that guy who was, hey, look, you're doing great.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, it really is pretty straightforward and easy. God created a world that could choose him or deny him. That's it. It's that simple because that's what he decided.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And he said, I just really try to be involved in their life. If she had a kid, I wanted to target. And then once I built that rapport with them, hey, look, go out, go to dinner, go spend some time where you're sleeping, I'll stay with the kids tonight. And that's how we would groom kids. Wow. So it was truly a father.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
that that he would that he would try to or that he would look at that would ward him off for lack of better word now imagine if that father that's supposed to be warding people off is the one who's actually doing this to their kid how many of these victims are molested or raped or exploited by by how do i say this the the what do you call them the abuser Yeah, the perpetrator, the abuser.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I would say about 80% of them. Are you serious? That's the whole reason they don't get caught and they're not targeted is because you're generally speaking not going to catch them doing something with drugs or getting enrolled for drugs. You might get the guy who shows up to pay with drugs. You will get those people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But generally speaking, this is the only thing they're doing that's outside the law. And nothing within law enforcement is targeting these specific people unless, of course, you get a tip or unless, of course, they find them on some digital platform going after kids, which is hard to do and it's few and far between. These are individuals who are not Generally speaking, breaking the law.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We will get gang members showing up looking to steal a girl and take back, and that's a process. I'm not saying we don't get that, but I would say about 80%. Yeah, about 80% are just regular, everyday folks that you would never, never guess. We are seeing that shift and change because of the illegal immigration thing, right? So we don't know much about these illegal immigrants.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We don't know their background, where they come from. We know they're here working. They might be here working, but we don't have a lot of information on that individual. But the ones that we do have information on, about 80% are regular folks.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, no. So, for us, because we work closely with the prosecutor's office most of the time, we bring the prosecutor's office in because, again, we need an apprehension and a prosecution. We haven't had too many issues. We've had some issues, but it's...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
To accept or deny God. Yeah, I mean, that's, yeah. We're created in His image. Am I what? You believe that too? Yeah, yeah, because we're created in His image. We can accept what He has or we can rebel against Him. He talks about it all the time. The book of Isaiah is full of that with Israel and His people rebelling against what He said.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Most of the issues we see exist, wind up existing between the current law enforcement agency that we're working with and the prosecutor that we're working, they haven't. They haven't a rub or a riff for whatever reason. It's never because they don't want to prosecute it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's one thing I have seen is that across the aisle, for the most part, Republican, Democrat, whatever it is, when you are actively going after those individuals who are targeting kids, most everybody... Everybody that we've worked with has been all for it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If we have an issue, a lot of times it's been more so on the law enforcement agency side, not always, but on the law enforcement agency side over the prosecution side. And again, there's an egocentric thing there for most law enforcement agencies. They want to say we're doing this. They want to say, oh, yeah, yeah, we're doing this. We're doing it. No, you're not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We know you're not because we literally go all over the nation, and we see people tell us all the time, hey, we're doing this, and we show them what we're doing. They're like, holy crap, we're not doing that at all. So that's probably where we run more into an issue. But once we make the case and we get an arrest and a prosecution, it pretty much goes straight forward pretty easy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Defense attorneys will molest a case now. Defense attorneys will— they will really negatively impact a case and try to get anything thrown out for any reason whatsoever. Now, I do struggle with the profession of attorneys. I mean, I struggle with that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Defense attorneys will grab anybody, they'll charge these guys, whatever they're charged, and make a lot of money, and they will try to poke holes in a case. And our goal as an organization is to train the law enforcement agency and the
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
the apprehension side, the cops or the sheriff's deputies or whatever, and the prosecution side, the district attorney's office, hey, this is how you make a rock-solid case. So it doesn't matter how many rocks they throw at it, they're never going to break the glass. They're never going to poke a hole in it. You've got a solid case.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, local. So think of it this way. It's a... The federal government, a government period... is not good at much of anything, right? We know that because we work for the government.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That being said, they do serve a purpose and they serve the purpose of hopefully on the criminal side, protecting victims and putting away the criminal without raining on our God-given rights that come through ultimately the Bill of Rights. We'll make this succinct in just a second. The federal government is a macro sort of thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Then you have a state government, which is kind of a 30,000 foot view, a little bit smaller than the federal government, but now it's a little bit smaller. And then the federal government can't do what the state laws can do, right? So they have to have, that is very broad, and it's very difficult on how broad it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I think Isaiah chapter 49, He calls them a stiff-necked people. whose necks were like steel rods of sinew and whose heads were heads of brass. He was basically saying, you're a hard-headed and stiff neck. You will not do what I tell you to do. But He created us with His Spirit, which gave us the ability to choose right or wrong, just like he has.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The state is now still pretty broad, but we're getting a little more pinpointed and focused for that specific targeted shot.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But the local agency, that local prosecutor's office, that local municipality or sheriff's office, they're the ones that know the nuances of their community so that not only when we make this arrest, we get this individual showing up to buy a kid, the prosecution knows what we need to say in the chat, what the age of the victim needs to be, all of this stuff to successfully prosecute the case.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'll give you a real world example real quick, but I won't name the locations. We had a location. or two separate locations, two hours apart from each other, the same state. So the same state law governs these two locations. One location, the prosecutor says, I have an older black female demographic than I'm going to get for a jury pool.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, even though these women vote Democrat, they are unbelievably conservative, the older black female demographic. And they will not. They do not care if we chat as a 15-year-old girl, even though that makes state law, right? If we chat as a 15-year-old girl, they're going to have a hung jury. They're not going to true bill this thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They're not going to all be unanimous on, yep, this crime was committed. We need to move on. we're going to have to at least be 14-year-old. Okay, so we changed how we chat. Even though we met state law at 15, because of the jury pool that this prosecutor said he was going to have, we had to change it. He said, now, if you chat as a boy... He could be 22 years old.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, that's not within state law to do it, but he'd say he'd be 22 years old, and because it's a more conservative group of women, that older black female demographic, they're going to throw this guy under the jail because it was outside the realm of what they agreed with morally.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
christian women churchgoers the homosexuality was the the unforgivable sin to them most of them were married when they were 15 so they were not going to roll a guy for talking to you know trying to have sex with a 15 year old girl so does that make so we see that two hours away i'm talking this was and i love this example because it's a real example that's that's the most important that i had to deal with at the prosecutor's office two hours away
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
the jury pool was a predominantly white female jury pool, middle age, like 40s to 50s age range female. That was the predominant jury pool. So they look at that. And
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If you chatted as a 18-year-old girl, throw that guy under the jail if he's showing up by her because it's that Me Too movement that, you know, they're more liberal, they're more left-leaning, they're every female's a victim sort of idea, right? This guy's showing up by a female, throw him under the jail.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But if it was a guy showing up for a 15-year-old boy, they still might say, yeah, he's showing up for a kid, but they were more sympathetic to the homosexual man because they were more left-leaning. No shit. So just because we match state law— Doesn't mean that we can get something because we've got to prosecute. This person's going to go before a jury of their peers, right?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He just always chooses right, and we always choose wrong. Being born again is having faith in him, ultimately for us, in the person of Jesus Christ, so that we can now become a new creature, as Paul says in the New Testament, and live a life hopefully free of sin, although that's not gonna be the case, but we can strive for that. That's why he says, be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So when I get subpoenaed to testify in a grand jury, when I go to grand jury in states that have that, I have to tell them what we're doing. Well, that jury has to say, yeah, we've... This guy's committed a crime here. We've got to be able to put them away, and you've got to have 100% on that. You can't be hung. So it's not just meeting the law. It's not just, hey, we got the law. It is...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Do we have a case that's going to stand up in front of a jury? And that's our Constitution, which is great. We're just building these cases so there's never a victim because we've seen that with real victims of human trafficking. They don't want to go before and they don't want to testify before a jury or stand in front of their accuser.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, before we do the operation, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Like six months ahead of time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, we're booked out through, I think, August of next year with agencies all over the nation that reach out, and we will sit down and have a meet. Our executive director, Mike Rebels, who's been in law enforcement 30 years, he'll meet with them, and then I'll sit down with them, and we will
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
zoom calls or if they're local you know near us we'll drive to them but yeah everything you just said we sit down and we hash out look guys this is what we do this is what we're looking for we need your guidance on what works here a lot of times we'll study the state law and we can't figure out what state law we want to go with so we'll ask prosecutor hey
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
which one of these charges you want to go with. And he'll say, neither of those, this is actually the state law we want to use. And so that's just like, oh, okay. So we have to spend a lot of, there's a lot of prep work to be able to do this. This isn't something you just go out and swing for the fences on. It is a, it's a process.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because you've got to work with that local prosecutor and that local agency for a successful probable cause felony arrest, apprehension, and then the prosecution. It's very calculated. Yeah, very calculated. Very impressive. So everybody will say, oh, we want to be targeted in law enforcement. Everything law enforcement does, like let's say the prostitution things, it's a buckshot approach.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We send some rounds out there and hope we catch a felon in the process. Maybe we get human trafficking. This is not that. This is very sniper in approach. This is very, this is the target I'm shooting at. If I get any of these other things over here, great. But I am going after this specific individual right here. I'm going after the 1%.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Remember when I said the 10 of the thousand that actually show up? I'm going after the 1% who are showing up to buy a kid because I know that that 1%, they're the ones who are slipping away all the time. They're that buck who's slipping for the guys that hunt.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They're that buck who's been slipping around and smart and been watching and are able to slip around the edges of the field without ever getting busted. That's the ones we're going after. And that's what we teach them to do. So it's very targeted.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We do, yes, sir. It used to be... We would reach out to them if we had a relationship through somebody and offer the tactical training, and they're like, yeah, we'll do this. If you give us tactical training for free. Now we don't even offer the tactical training anymore unless they specifically request it because they're reaching out to us.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Hey, we've heard about your sex trafficking operation program. Will you come in and teach us? We want to do. No kidding. Oh, yeah. They're reaching out to us, and that's kind of where we're at. Most of it's word of mouth, but... But it doesn't cost the agency anything. That's why we raise money. That's why we're a nonprofit. Everything is paid for.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I believe it's, is it Galatians that says that? I can't remember. So I say all that to say I was six years old when I got saved. My parents taught me. I remember going into the room and saying, Mom and Dad, I believe that I need to accept Jesus in my life. They walked me through it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So the only thing it costs the agency is their manpower and their sometimes overtime hours because they're working, you know, training and then two nights of operations.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Not 100. I would say probably somewhere around somewhere between 20 to 30 because we can only do one a month. We can only do one a month.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so think of it this way. There's 3,100 sheriff's offices in the nation, plus or minus. Let me use the sheriff's office as an example. We will never, we're doing one a month, based on the funding that we have, what we bring in, we do one of these a month. we will never be able to hit all those sheriff's offices.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But it would be nice to hit the majority of them because again, if you look at your return on investment, we're trying to work ourselves out of a job because if I can teach this agency, if our team can go in and teach this agency what to do, we don't want to go back to that agency. We're not wanting to return.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, no worries. I do want to give you something before we start. You've already given me a lot of gifts, but this is from the team at Covenant Rescue Group.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We have sometimes, they'll say, hey, do you mind coming back and auditing what we're doing to see if we're doing it appropriately? We'll go back and give them some pointers. But our goal is to Fire that one shot, have some success, and go to the next agency. Fire that one shot, have some success with them, and then let them hone it and continue to do this on their own.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And it's not something they need to do every day or every month. They overfish that hole, for lack of a better word, right? They need to do it twice a year, do it once a quarter, do it once a year. Whatever that leadership wants to do there, but it gives them something they can do that is... impacting the community around them in a positive way. So going back to that micro as opposed to macro,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They're trying to impact their community in a positive way. And the closest form of the government to the people was the most effective form of government, right? That's John Locke, the second treatise of government, right? And so that's what this is. The closest form of government is going to impact that community the best. And that's where we really like to focus.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then the feds can get involved on the top end. And if there's something they can adopt and take over and take federally, great. We have those connections to help make that happen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My daughters, two of my oldest daughters at six, they came to me and they want to be saved or they want to go through the process. And so I spent three or four days going through the Scriptures with them, talking about it so they understand Jesus. who you are as a sinful person. Then there's those people who are in their 30s or 40s or 50s or 80s.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I would say we have a lot of subcontractors that we rotate in every month per operation. We probably have about 50 subcontractors we rotate through, GRS guys, MARSOC guys, SEALs, SF guys, so all from the special operations community. A lot of them are sworn in other locations. A lot of them are law enforcement officers somewhere else. We have some federal law enforcement agencies
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
federal law enforcement agents and state law enforcement agents, both retired and active, that rotate in and work with us. So about 50 subcontractors. And then full-time on our team, we've got, I think we have, well, Josh just left to go back to full-time law enforcement, so we have six full-time subcontractors people on our team, and we have one, two, three part-time people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So we have about, we have basically nine employees total, to include myself. Damn. So we run pretty thin. Yeah. But it takes us full-time people to set up and prep these operations, and then we rotate in the contractors, for whatever agency we're working with and whoever's available, we rotate them in each month.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And generally it takes about 20-ish of our people, 15 to 25 people to pull off an operation, depending on how many people the agency we're working with has.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Come on, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, put us in touch with them. We'll come up and make it happen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, and you'll get, especially being as close as you are to Nashville, you'll pull quite a few out of Nashville. That's one thing that people don't realize, that if you're within an hour of a large city, you'll pull people from that large city showing up to target your kids. And that's what we're trying to do, trying to even act as a deterrent.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yes, there you go.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
There it is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So you've already experienced it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Now, one thing to say on catching these guys, you've got the vigilante groups on YouTube and all that. They'll talk somebody in. The MMA guys will beat them up and make them drink their own piss, all that stuff. One of the things that we've seen is a lot of times, and we see this a lot with people we go after, and it's
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
This is hard because you want to deal with it appropriately, but it's not criminal in nature. A lot of times you have autistic kids that are on, so there's something wrong here. So now you have something we got to deal with because I don't care what you have. I don't care what your mental disability is, whatever. You better not be targeting my kids. Does that make sense?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because that's going to negatively impact their life. We've got to deal with it, but we don't deal with it. It's not criminal in nature. We don't beat them up. We don't make them drink their piss. We don't put them in jail. And working at the local level, the micro level, we generally see that works better as opposed to just this random blanket, hey, we're chatting these people in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I think my great-granddaddy, I remember right, according to my dad, my great-granddaddy asked Jesus into his heart on his deathbed. Wow. He lived a life apart from God and sin, but he accepted Jesus into his death. I think Charles Darwin did, as a matter of fact. You know, the guy that did the...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
A lot of times they're entrapping them and then they're showing up and beating them up. And this person is a guy with a mental disability. the law enforcement agency that's local generally has probably dealt with him before. And they can say, oh, hang on a second, who are we looking at? Because we normally know who's showing up before they get there through all of the stuff we can run.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And they're sitting here looking at that. Oh, this guy right here. Yeah, look, we need to figure this out. We deal with him all the time. He's got this mental disability. Let's do it. And so now we can get the family involved, deal with this appropriately because it's not criminal in nature to But it's a problem, and it's a problem that has to be dealt with.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's the other good part to this as well. We can deal with those things more effectively at the local level than you can at a level like at a state or a federal or just an organization in a random location chatting people in because they don't know the nuances of that community.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, it's basically based on people. So our burn rate a month for our organization with full-time people is basically about $30,000 to pay salaries, interest, just the stuff to run. To do an operation, Forget the burn rate side of it. It's about $50,000 per op. So like local in the Southeast, it might be 35 grand. We went all the way out to New Mexico last year. It was like 84 grand.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So the average to pull one of these trainings and ops off is about $50,000. That's pay, travel, all of that stuff. So to scale, you know, if we wanted to do two a month, we need to be able to bring in $100,000 a month. Now, this is what I generally say to people.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If you want to support our organization, you don't have to be the person that can write a $25,000 check, a $100,000 check, a million dollar check. If you can do that and you want to do that, great. Hey, we would love to have that support. But we really operate on people who have a heart to do the right thing. And they say, you know what?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I can give up my Starbucks two weeks out of the month and write a check for $20 a month. That is, if we look at where most of our funding comes from, it comes from hundreds, if not thousands of people all across the nation who write checks for $20 a month or sign up for a direct deposit for $20 a month, whatever it is, or $100 a month, and they send that every month.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's really what we operate on. It's truly a grassroots thing. We do have big donors, but most people can't be big donors. Praise God, Trump just won. Because in Kamala's country, we probably wouldn't be able to donate anything. We'd all be sucking wind. But with that being said, we do operate on a grassroots effort. So I don't even think about the cost of the operation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, Charles Darwin, the scientist that, you know, shows where we, you know, or said where we came from, monkeys, and I believe, I could be wrong, but you look it up. I believe he accepted Christ on his deathbed. Okay. Yeah, but anyway, it doesn't matter at what point in your life you're in. You're born in sin. You're going to die in sin, and God has given you the opportunity.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's great. So this thing right here, this phone, okay, we've all got them. Our kids got them. My kids are too young to have them yet. When you give your kid a phone, I literally had a buddy call me yesterday asking about this at an app that somebody backed in and started targeting his daughter out of. His daughter's 14.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So you give somebody a phone, you give them access to the world, and the world access to them. Whether it's 3G, 5G, internet, if it has those capabilities, somebody can go after your kid. We've even seen it on the gaming headsets. You've seen it on this, I think, a game called Number Blocks maybe is a recent one we've seen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We've seen these guys, Target kids, talking through the headsets to them, playing Fortnite. These individuals are out there. They might not be looking to steal your kid physically or sexually abuse them and all that. They might be, but they might be looking to steal their digital footprint. They might be looking to extort them. We call it sextortion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Maybe they send a picture, especially young girls will send a picture and they'll hold it over their head. Hey, send us money or we're gonna plaster this over everything. And so it's a scam, right? So they're still in their digital fingerprint or their digital footprint. They're getting into your family's life. That's generally what we see with that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
However, sometimes they are trying to steal your kid, but they don't have to show up in a free candy van. Through these right here, they'll steal your kid's heart and mind, and they'll talk your kid right out of your house.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So monitoring those phones, monitoring those social media accounts and platforms, staying involved in what your kid's doing there, I think that's the most important thing you can do and the best way that you can protect your family. Don't worry so much about what you might see out and about with other people. If you see something, say something. That's what they always used to say.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The problem is... I don't know the nuances there. But what I do know is with my kids, I've got to be very vigilant. I've got to be a threat, going back to that guy I was talking about. I've got to be a threat so nobody's going to go after my kids. Monitor what they're doing on that phone. Monitor what they're doing on their social media platforms.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, I appreciate you having me here. I think we've talked long enough, and hopefully it's beneficial for everybody and your listeners. Thanks for having me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Absolutely.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Oh, thank you.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, pleasure, man. Thank you. Absolutely. Thanks, brother. God bless.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
to be one with Him and live life eternally. And that's what I believe. That's what a born-again Christian is. Hopefully I haven't done a disservice with what I just said.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, people smarter than me could probably say it better, but that's what I believe. Well, thank you for sharing that. Yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
There's some stuff in that box. um kind of like at christmas when we give a gift to somebody and i don't know what it is because my wife you know got it and wrapped it this is uh this is from the guys on the team they said make sure sean gets this there you go crush evil hat this is awesome thank you oh yeah the black on black t-shirt that's a uh
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Oh, on the rescue side. So I'll give you a two-part answer to that. The first thing is most of the time on a rescue, and it's primarily women in sex trafficking, which is primarily what we work. So not all women. They will say... I'm not being trafficked. I'm not a victim. They are doing what they want to do. In some of them, that might be the case.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I heard an interesting statistic from a lady that we work with, with Wellhouse, who is a forensic interviewer, who said it takes seven contacts before a woman will be able to say, yeah, I need help. I'm being trafficked or I've gone through this process, right? So that's interesting to see too. We might be contact number one. We might be contact number five. But that would be the first thing.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The second thing is if once you see somebody who is like, yes, I need help, whether a grownup or a child, children always need help. They're always exploited. We'll talk a little bit about that later. The response is, it's like unbelievable relief because up to this point, they've had no way out, but now it's almost like they see a light or they see a way out. Does that make sense?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's the only way I can describe it because I've never been in it. My wife and my girls have never been in it. I've only seen it from the outside looking in. I don't know what these people are going through in their life, but you can see that sense of relief of like, you can actually do this for me.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And when you see that and pull them out of it, that would be the best way to describe it is just, Unbelievable relief.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So the easiest way to look at it, we've done, I probably sat in front of an interview, maybe not 2,500, maybe not that many, but in the thousands of women, like 1,500 to maybe 2,000, maybe not even that much. Quite a few women.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
A buddy of mine, Stuart Hartley, came up with that one. He said, you've got to do black on black. Awesome. Patch. Patch. Oh, yes. That's a Wooks knife. We partnered with them, and they made us some cool stuff, some tomahawks and stuff. But that's actually a really good skinning knife. That is cool, man.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I mean, I'm basing this off of just strictly my interviews, and I'm not a forensic interviewer like some of these other people are that would be more educated on this than I would. But sitting in front of them, from Haiti to Zambia to South Sudan to the United States of America, pick a state. I've sat in front of them and interviewed these women, and I get the same common thing across the board.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
For my interviews, every single time I talk to them, they're almost offended that you would... imply that they need help out of what they're doing. Now, I've been told by ladies here in the Southeast, they're like, I had one lady tell me, honey, where do you think I'm gonna go and make $1,500 a day? She makes $1,500 in an evening doing what she's doing. So there is that aspect of it.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Now, once you interview a girl, once you get a girl that wants to get out or a guy that wants to get out and they go through the process and you take a forensic interviewer to go down through it, one thing that I'll also say we've seen every single time is that that woman who might be 25 or 30 or 35 doing this right now, she was... victimized when she was four, five, six, 15, 16.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I had one lady tell me recently, her kids are in the room with her. She goes, I mean, ever since I was a little girl, I remember sitting in the room and watching my mom do this. Her mom was a prostitute. And so she grew up in it, and so she started doing this when she was 15 or 16, so she could sell herself.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And something we don't realize in our culture, like a lot of people love Reba McEntire, right? I'm not talking trash about Reba McEntire, but you heard the song Fancy, Don't Let Me Down, you know? That's exactly what she's singing about. That is what human trafficking is.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's a woman who's selling herself to the highest bidder, to whoever's going to pay the most for her, to elevate herself in life. Sometimes it's out of poverty, right? Sometimes out of poverty they're doing it. Sometimes it's out of, this is all I'm worth. It takes... It's a scriptural principle.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Going back to scripture, Proverbs says that a man of understanding is able to draw out the thoughts and the things that are inside each person, which is deep water. So what it's talking about is that understanding counselor. So some of these forensic interviewers can draw this out. You don't just get that at the first initial, hey, you need help, I'm gonna rescue you. You generally don't get that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I've never gotten that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And a lot of them are heroin addicts. A lot of them are. The drug community is tied closely to the prostitution community, which is tied closely to human trafficking. So one thing I will say is every drug user is not a prostitute. Every prostitute is not a human trafficking victim. That's where it's going to be my next question. However, I would say—
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
that every prostitute that I've met, at least that I've met, is a drug user, right? That are selling themselves, actually selling themselves like, I mean, they'll get high as cut off fentanyl or heroin or whatever it is they do. Part of it is so they can do what they do.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But every prostitute I've met has been a drug user, but not every drug user is a prostitute, not every prostitute is a human trafficking victim. The reason we focus on the kid piece, what we do, the reason I focus on child exploitation, is by the letter of the law, both federal and state laws, and every state in the nation with the exception of two maybe, maybe Washington and California,
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Every state, if it's a child that's being impacted, somebody under whatever the age in that state is, 16, 18, 15, whatever the state law age is, that is a human trafficking victim because they're a child. They don't have the ability to say no or push away. Does that make sense? It does. When they're of age, they're not always human trafficking victims.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Wooks? Wooks, yeah. You can look them up there online. I didn't know about them. They make chassis for guns and stuff. I got a few of their chassis for some rifles. But that wood on that handle, it's like Italian wood or something. I can't remember. It says it on the box. But they're, hey, Winkler, I think that's how I mean it.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I will also say the letter of the law doesn't always define human trafficking victims very well. But we don't always find human trafficking in prostitution, although it's closely tied to it. We do always find human trafficking in child exploitation, which is why we focus on children.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah. Some people would say that, again, you get down to the nitty-gritty of it, which I don't agree with this, but you get down to the nitty-gritty of it, that that woman is trafficked in some shape, form, or fashion, whether it's poverty, whether it happened earlier in her life, or this is what led her to where she is now. There's still an active choice for her to leave or continue. What will—
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
they'll just use the state law. If somebody is actively selling her, so somebody working as a pimp maybe, a husband, a boyfriend, if they're actively selling under most state laws or under federal law that you're now looking at, a true human trafficking victim. This lady is not receiving money for her services, and it's no longer misdemeanor prostitution crime.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You've got somebody who is holding her and selling her maybe against her will. She'll say it's not against her will, but selling against her will, and then they receive money for it, and she doesn't necessarily get paid. So that would be a good example of what we see here stateside and overseas. But most of the time, It's children that are stuck in that spot. It's kids who are in that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not grown-ups as much. And I think it's our digital world that's allowed for that. You don't see as many. We still see them, but you don't see as many. They'll call them Johns or whatever, pimps. It doesn't matter. You call them whatever you want. A lot of it's symbolism without substance. Most women will use digital, like the phones, the apps, because it kind of protects them.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They'll receive money before somebody shows up. I mean, they're very... Heck, you got some chicks, they'll make $1,000, $1,500 a night just getting dudes to send them $10 on Cash App or something for gas money, and then they'll never show up. Say, send me 10 more and I'll show up. You get these freaking clowns out there that just keep sending them money.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, they'll make a bunch of money a night just basically scamming dudes, which I think is hilarious.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That is where you see trafficking. And if there's somebody strong-arming them and selling them, that would be human trafficking.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Winkler up in Boone, North Carolina, you know, does all the knives for us. They sell them in their shop. That might have been how I got connected to them. No kidding. Yeah, they sell Wook stuff in their shop. Thank you, man. Yeah, man.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Bro, you're hitting the nail on the head. Now, prostitution as we see it now, I believe is still a federal crime, but it's just not prosecuted, right? But yeah, they're working on behalf of somebody. That would be a form of human trafficking. And most of those women are in a position where they don't want to do it. OnlyFans would be the great example of kind of where it's gone to.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
People wouldn't look at OnlyFans women and say that they're trafficked. A lot of them are doing it themselves, right? A lot of them build their accounts, and they'll sell pictures of their feet, or they'll do nude pictures, or whatever it is on OnlyFans. And a lot of them will say, well, that's not pornography. Well, it is. It's pornography. And they'll say, well, I'm not a prostitute.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, you are. You're just selling pictures of yourself as opposed to selling yourself physically. But we wouldn't look at them and say they're being trafficked, right? Because it's not against their will, even though they might have a husband that makes them do it. There's all kinds of weird situations out there. That's the same way with the prostitution industry.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's just women are more willing to physically engage and get paid for it than the women who just want to sell pictures. There's literally no difference in it.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, you're talking about actual act. Oh, yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You see that in Hollywood with movies. I mean, you see that with some of the movies in the 70s. I think Caligula was one of them where they said some of that happened. Look at Blue Lagoon when the girl was 15. Was it Brooke Shields? That was a whole big ordeal. Those folks had to testify before Congress. So it's been going on like that for a long time. So yes, that is a form of trafficking.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Legally, by law, is it a form of trafficking? No, probably not. It's not something I can go out and make an arrest and prosecute somebody on as a law enforcement officer, as a prosecutor, right? Nobody can go get them on that. But yes, that's a form of trafficking. So the biggest thing is, is we don't, We don't actually know what trafficking is.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We have what we think, it's the movie Taken, you know, girls being taken against their will. But sometimes they willfully do something, they make a foolish decision or whatever, and then they're stuck in it. And I've seen what you just mentioned more often than any of them overseas, wherever they might give their passport up, right? Hey, yeah, hold my passport.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's kind of how they keep them at this brothel or whatever. And before they know it, they're being soft trafficked. They went there on their own accord. They said, yeah, I'll do this because I can make some money, but now they can't get their passport back.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We could bring it up right here in Nashville. I mean, we could go just down the road in Nashville. I mean, anywhere you go.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And there's a lot of that, right? Because there is no criminal nexus to really do anything. There might be a misdemeanor prostitution charge. I think Texas recently made it a felony to pay for sex, which is crazy to me. Is it morally wrong? Yes. Is it criminally wrong?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
On the books, yeah, most of it's a misdemeanor if it's this level of prostitution or even pornography to some extent, I do believe, has a federal nexus. But all of that being said... It's really a moral issue. I don't think it's anything that you can go after criminally. Now, here's the caveat to that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Most of these women that find themselves in that position, or even a lot of the men that find themselves in that position, were sexually targeted or abused as a child or at a younger age. So there might be a level of victimhood there where they're at this point where this is what they do.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I don't know, because I've never been in that world to the point that my mind has been shifted to think that this is all I'm worth, right? But there is that aspect of it. And for us, what we try to go after, going all the way back to what I was saying a little bit ago, a person of understanding draws out the real issues at hand.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
When it comes to prostitution, when it comes to pornography, when it comes to any of these things, the only thing that we can do is give a safe, a safe, on the rescue side like he was talking about, the guy who asked the question, to give a safe environment for the advocates of organizations. These are women, generally speaking, who are people of understanding.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They might have been in that position. We create a safe environment for advocates to go in and do this, sit down and talk and interview these ladies to try to get them out of this without any law enforcement interference.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because as soon as we say, yeah, this is human trafficking and we want to make a case, well, it's our Constitution that says that the accused has the right to stand before the accuser and a jury of their peers. Well, what do you think most of these women want to do if they truly are a victim? They don't want to sit in front of their accused. Yeah. And here's the thing.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You got people saying, well, then they shouldn't have to. Well, yeah, well, then we're going to do away with the U.S. Constitution. It was put in place for a reason. So there is the bureaucracy of the U.S. Constitution. That is a good thing. I do believe that the Bill of Rights is a good thing, and it protects us tremendously. But oftentimes, when we cause something that, kind of like you said,
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Is it human trafficking or is it not? Maybe, maybe not, but this woman doesn't want to testify? Perfect. We can't do anything criminally with it. And it's not on the law enforcement agency to be an advocate on this victim's behalf if she is a victim. And so that's where the NGOs get involved. The problem with the NGOs, they advocate on this victim's behalf, but you've got to get that trafficker.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, or, you know, just the perpetrator, the... The pedophile. Yeah, the pedophile, whatever you want to say.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, I can't because I can't get your lady to testify. So that's kind of the dynamic you run into. So again... What we focus on with law enforcement agencies and with our law enforcement credentials, with the guys in our group, wherever they're sworn out of, we build cases, specifically targeting individuals who are going after kids because we can get those felony arrests.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We don't have to have anybody testify on that because we're the ones who are testifying on it. We're the ones who set up the operation. We're the ones who provided the training to the law enforcement officers or the law enforcement agency that set up the operation that made these arrests. So we do decoy-based operations to catch these individuals that are targeting kids, and guess what?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
When we rip their phones, all that stuff that you talked to, was it Ryan McDonald? Ryan Montgomery. Montgomery, I said McDonald. Ryan Montgomery about, they rip his phones and find all this data. Well, that's how the law enforcement agency now has a probable cause search warrant or a subpoena to rip this person's phone. And now they get all of this information of where they're abusing kids.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The youngest I've seen a guy having sex with his own 18-month-old daughter. He showed up for a 14-year-old girl. We arrested him based on that. We ripped his phone and found out this other thing over here that nobody else knew about. That was a couple years ago, and he got—I think the FBI went forward with him and charged him federally.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, it might have been Homeland that went forward with him and charged him federally. He got state and federal charges. So I say that to say that's why we focus on that is because sometimes this problem already exists over here, and it's going to take counselors and the person of Jesus Christ to fix this issue. I don't think we can fix it with legislation. Yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But with the kids, we have legislation in place, and we can target the individuals who are targeting others. Our goal is to get predators because that's what these guys are doing. They're preying upon all of these people who are weaker than them, and in particular, women who might be in a bad situation.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They'll keep that on the West Coast, but... Keep it on the West Coast and in Europe, you know? Yeah. I think that's what they're pushing for in Europe. Are they really? That's what I heard. I don't know how true it is, but... Nice, nice.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I was actually born in Lynchburg, Virginia. Lived there for a little while. My dad's side of the family was there, but then grew up in Jefferson County, Alabama. North Jefferson is the area. normal kid, like a middle-class family. Uh, granddaddy had a farm. We lived kind of in like a little neighborhood.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So a little bit of country kids slash suburban, you know, played football and, uh, baseball for a little bit. I didn't play baseball in high school, uh, did track some, uh, wrestled that all the, you know, all that, uh, all that stuff growing up, hunted and fished and, uh, went to church. I How many brothers and sisters? Two brothers and a sister. We're all relatively close in age.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And they, I think my... My youngest brother and sister, they were in the ninth grade when I was in the twelfth grade. So what is that, four years? They're four years younger than me. Are you the oldest? I'm the oldest. I'm the oldest of the four kids. And then one of my brothers is an engineer.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My other brother is a master welder, and now he's on the sales side, so he does a lot with welding and gas. And they're both in the business world. And then my sister, she actually – recently started working for us. We hired her as our office manager, which was pretty cool to be able to do.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And she came on board and started running things in the office, running scheduling and all that for our team at Covenant Rescue Group. But yeah, I grew up with him. Dad is a pastor, an ordained minister. He pastors at Hayden First Baptist Church in Hayden, Alabama. And grew up always being rooted in the faith
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
19, became a firefighter and was in paramedic school, or not 19, when I graduated high school, firefighter, paramedic school, and at age 19, went on a mission trip with the church and felt called to do something different. And that was kind of my track into the SEAL teams. Came home, I talked my dad about it. No kidding? Yeah. How did that happen?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I went to Africa and I just, for whatever reason, the Lord laid on my heart. You need to change your trajectory, do something different. And it was the military was kind of in my heart and mind.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So we went over, I went with a church, Gardner First Baptist Church, where my wife and I go now in Gardner, Alabama. We went with GFBC to, I can't even remember where we were in Africa. It was close to Angola. And we're putting wells in, right, doing wells. And I remember saying, we put a well in one village. If I'm just giving you a very specific thing that kind of triggered that in me,
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
putting a well in one village. Here I am, an 18-year-old kid, 19 maybe at the time, just turned 19. And this guy comes over from another village and he's pissed that we put a well in this village and he starts beating this old woman. So here I am, just some freaking 19-year-old kid from Mount Olive, Alabama, Gardner, Alabama. And I go over and You know, grab it. Hey, you're not going to start.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then all of a sudden, man, it spun up this big thing. Hey, we're not here to do that. You can't do that. And it kind of pissed me off. He's just beating this old lady with like this stick, almost like the things you hit the horses with, you know, like not a whip, but, you know, a horse stick.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He's hitting her and beating her, but he's mad because we put a well in her village right here, and he wanted it in his. So that being said, we— That kind of challenge was like, I want to do something where I can actually do something about this if I see it. And I remember thinking that. And so I talked to my dad and we went to the recruiters. At the time, Bush had just started those contracts.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
This was like the 04, 05 timeframe when those contracts came into play. So graduated high school, of course, this would have been 05. And I looked at them all. SEAL was, you know, all special operations program. My dad said, hey, if you're going to do something military special, but do something special. He said, you need to do special operations if you've got the option to do it.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Don't go just to go to the military. Do something special. Remember in Buzz, they had that thing, you know, be somebody special. You remember that on the old grinder? Huh.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, that was funny that Dad, he did say that. He said, do something special. And SEAL was the hardest contract. Out of all of them, he had the SEAL contract. I think Air Force PJ and Combat Control was the second hardest. They had an X-ray contract, I think was the Army Green Beret, and they had something for RASP or whatever the Ranger contract was.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And the Marine was just go Marine infantry, and then they had just started spinning up MARSOC for the Raiders. There was kind of a process there, but I don't think it was a contract, so... I said, all right, God, I'll do whatever you want me to do, and I'll just take the hardest one. If I pass it, that's where I'll go.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I took the ASVAB, the run, the swim, the pull-ups, all the stuff for the SEAL contract and passed it, got the contract. I said, well, this is where God wants me to go, and marched down that road to be a Navy SEAL. Right on. Did you have any family in the middle of Missouri? No, so I had an uncle that was in the Army, and then my granddaddies, my great-granddaddy and –
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My granddaddy, my dad's dad served in the Korean War. My great granddaddy, my mom's granddaddy was World War II. He was in the Army. He went in on D-Day. And his brother was a Marine and was in, I think he was in Iwo Jima and Guadalcanal, if I remember right, from what they said. So I had that, but it was kind of distant. I remember hearing some of the stories. And then I had an uncle.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
who was in the army in the 90s in Bosnia timeframe. I think he deployed to Bosnia, but that's it. I mean, we weren't, I had another uncle that was a Marine, but we weren't really a military family. It was just kind of hodgepodge, hit or miss.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But I went to the military and did the SEAL thing just at, I hate to say happenstance, just the route that God directed me, but just kind of went through that door. What'd you think of Bud's? I actually wrote a small book. Big surprise, right? Team guy writes a book. But it's only 40 pages, so I got a bunch of buddies who make fun of it and call it a pamphlet.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's called the Armor of God Through the Eyes of a Seal. And I write about it in there. And it's kind of interesting when you're going through stuff and thinking and writing your thoughts on paper, which I haven't historically done. I'm a terrible writer. But it kind of popped out. I'm like... That was, it wasn't that hard, but it was the hardest thing I ever did. That makes sense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The physical standard, you know, it wasn't, I mean, I couldn't meet it now, you know, I'm nearly 40 years old. I mean, but at the time, I remember, like, the standard wasn't that hard. I don't know if you remember that. It wasn't, yeah, but it was the hardest thing I ever did. And I was thinking, how could that be? It's because, and this is what I believe,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's because they make you bad at what you're good at. They want to see how you respond to your own failure. And that's the difference in the selection process. That's what I saw, and that's what I thought about it. And this is now years out, looking back on it. I was not going to make it through Buzz. I was like, this is impossible. And 2 Corinthians 12, 9, where God is talking to Paul.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He says, my grace is sufficient for you. My strength is made perfect in your weakness. This is when Paul asked that the thorn in his flesh be removed three times. And God says, you're going to keep it. My grace is sufficient for you. My strength will be made perfect in your weakness. I was having some issues. I'd failed some runs. Yeah, yeah, I'd failed some runs. I shouldn't have failed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I got really good at swimming. I wasn't that great at swimming. And I was like, God, I'm not going to make it on this. I should be able to, but I'm not going to make it. And he said, hey, don't quit, and I'll see you through it. And he did. His grace was sufficient. His strength was made perfect in my weakness.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, I tore my calf muscle in first phase, and that really— Yeah, that negatively impacted my runs. I went from running pretty well, you know, being able to do the four-miler and, you know— 25, 26 minutes to where like when I got to third phase, even I'm talking third phase, like we're done, we're ready to go. I've got dudes pushing me down the beach.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, my legs just would not go as fast, but I tore that calf muscle in Hell Week and it never was the same. It still is not the same.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Probably the cold water. You know, or shallow water blackout was easier than I thought. You know, you're doing the 50-meter underwater swim. I did a little shallow water blackout. I think most everybody in our class did, right, on that one. But I was talking with Stumpf about that recently, and he was kind of laughing about it, talking through at least what they looked at on the second phase side.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But that was hard, but not as hard as you think. But I would say the cold water across the board. I'm an Alabama guy, you know. was not prepared for that cold water, those hypothermic conditions. That'll make you... You see that movie, The Hateful Eight, that Tarantino movie? No, I haven't. Oh, man.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I think that's a great question. I think it was a big J-SET program we did in Korea. And then at the time, if I'm remembering right, now somebody could probably look it up and tell me I'm wrong, but at the time, I want to say Obama was there and they shot those missiles into the Yellow Sea and then we dove with the rock seals to get those missiles. I think that's what that is.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not a very good Christian example, let's put it that way, but he's like, man, a man in the cold will do anything to stay warm. I can't imagine a Tarantino film being... That's right. Had this dude out in the snow, butt naked, you know. Anyway, he's like doing anything to get a blanket, you know, to warm up. And that's the way you feel, you know. They're in buds.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, that was probably the hardest thing for me. I hated being cold. I still hate being cold. Yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I classed up with 264. You probably know, you know, Triumph Systems, Jared Ogden. He did some stuff on the Discovery Channel. Yeah, I did. I've met him. He's got a Target System. Yeah, the Target System. Yeah, I think it's Triumph Systems. He's a great dude. I still talk with him. But he was our OIC. That's why I say that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So that was 264, and I went through Hell Week with him and then got rolled and then graduated with Class 267. Okay. Yeah. Graduated BUDS and SQT with 267.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Still Team 3. Team 3. Yep, Team 3. Checked into Team 3 and checked into basically the tail end of that Sauter City deployment. So my OIF, you know, whatever, I mean, it's just checking into the tail end of deployment. Didn't really do anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Went to Germany for two months with Group 1 as they did the transition through, which was pretty neat, meeting a lot of the high-level brass, driving them around, working with them. and then went- Oh, I'll bet you loved that. Yeah. Hey, dude, I'll be honest with you, it wasn't that bad. Are you serious? The reason, I will say my experience was different
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So, I don't know if you hear it because you live here in Tennessee now, but I have a little bit of an accent to most people, right? So, a lot of these Master Chiefs and a lot of these— You may not have noticed, but I got a little bit of an accent. A lot of these Master Chiefs and stuff, these guys, they—I love the country kid, you know? And so, I was always treated pretty well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They enjoyed riding with me. They, you know— taking them to wherever, Stuttgart, to the 10th Special Forces Group thing out there and the SIF and all that stuff. And so I'm just driving them around and they just love talking and talk to them. And I was just this country kid, you know, just... Talk about anything.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Talk about Auburn football, Alabama football, you know, and talk about hunting, fishing, and they just—I never had any issues. It wasn't bad. It was just—it was easy. And then went to—met with my platoon chief in Germany. He came through, interviewed us, and he slated me for sniper school.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He told me, he said, you sound like you'll be a better sniper than you will be a comms guy because I don't want to hear you on the radio. So Benny sent me to sniper school, and that's where, I mean— I was probably with the team six months at that time. No shit. So you got sniper like right away. Right away. Got sniper school and went there. And man, loves it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Sniper school was the most fun training. It's like what I was made for. It's because of what I grew up doing as a kid. So anyway, that was... that was that portion of team three. So when you say OIF, I mean, you rotate in Iraq and out of Iraq. Yeah, it sounds cool. I got OIF like all the 06s get OIF. Does that make sense? Yeah. Just go there and get a badge and leave. I'm here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah. As a new guy. Again, it wasn't the Lord... The Lord blessed me tremendously. It was fun. We did van fights. I mean, all the hazing stuff, the new guy stuff. I mean, we would fight and all that, which was fun. I mean, here I am, just a kid from the country. We had a fight club when I was... We didn't have a wrestling team, so we all wrestled in the off-season on our own.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was a J-SET that turned into... I don't know what nuclear weapons look like, but I mean, I see this thing that the rock seals found it and we're diving in the Yellow Sea. This thing, that looks like a nuclear weapon, but it wasn't. It was just a big missile. That's cool, man. It was just weird, you know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And we started a fight club. We got in trouble for it, but this is what we did. Well, now I'm getting to do it, and I'm not getting in trouble for it. We're grown men having van fights or fighting in Connex boxes or whatever. And so... That was cool. That was fun. Sniper school was great. I learned so much that I didn't have a clue. I could shoot, but I didn't have a clue about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Let me go ahead and tell you. Even going that, I went to that third test of the 300 Win Mag. You know, you got to do 90% on snaps and movers. You're shooting an 11-inch moving target, you know, like waist to shoulder, 11 inches wide at 800 meters. They said, we're going to teach you how to re-win a shootout. I'm like, where I come from, you don't teach anybody to do that. That's just luck.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, I remember saying that and thinking it, you know. But going to that school and learning the sniper craft, yeah. was just a blast, you know, and is in Indiana. The guy I mentioned earlier at some time, I remember if I was talking off camera or on camera, Troy DeHart, buddy of mine, I met him in Indiana, going to church there one day, and he showed up on base.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's a regular Army base, and we have our little compound there. And this guy shows up in tie and everything. And he said, here I am, some guy with like long hair and sideburns. And I said, hey, are you the pastor of church? He goes, no, I'm picking up people to take him to church. I said, all right, wait, I want to come right away. And he had been praying for about six months. He said,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
that he would meet a SEAL because he knew SEALs were on that base. And I happened to be the guy he met. And then he's been tied close to the community ever since. No kidding? Yeah, and that was 2007, I think, 2008. Interesting. So anyway.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so it's changed. It's changed now. You got pic, pictographer, pictograph, whatever it is. So we did that at the Strand because it was West Coast guy and then the East Coast guys do whatever in Virginia Beach. And then you have... What's pic? Pictographer or pictograph where you take a camera, you know, like, and you have to...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, hold the button so it lets all the light in because, you know, it's the old school picture stuff. So you have like light up a tag on a car in complete darkness without night vision or without shining a light on it. And it's basically surveillance-based stuff, right? That would be the pick portion and learning how to use that equipment. Do you mind if I elaborate a little bit?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, please do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, whatever the communications platform they have at the time. Has this changed now? They have a different comms platform, but that's it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So you're better, that's a great description.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So you got PIC and AS, and it's a beneficial portion. Because like you said, even any surveillance operation, that's what we do a lot of wherever you're at. And that's important because that helps you build targets. Scout, you go from PIC into Scout. And again, the pipeline has changed now. I think it's more meshed together. So pick was, was it two or four weeks? You know, it was about a month.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was about a month. I don't think it was a full month, but it was pretty close. Somewhere between two and four weeks. And then you go to scout. Scout was six weeks, if I remember right. And that's stalking. So the East Coast guys are stalking in the woods. It's the easiest thing in the flipping world. And the West Coast guys are stalking through La Posta.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I mean, they're like watching, seeing trails where you're dragging your sniper bag behind. You see the dust trails kicking up out there in La Posta where you're stalking through. And you stalk up, you set up a hide site, but you still haven't shot a rifle yet. You're not a sniper. You then set up your camera that you learned all about. You set your camera, you take a picture of the target,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You have to read a certain card they'll hold up, you know, a card, you get the picture, you read the card, you tell it to them, they're watching your spot, you know, they got the instructor in the field who's within five yards of you or whatever, and they're looking in that area to see if they find you, find your camera, find any of that. So that's the scout portion.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it's now implementing PIC with staying hidden really, really, really well, right? You're actually, you got your ghillie suit, all that junk, right? and that is Scout, and then finally you go to Sniper, which is, at the time, I want to say it might have been eight weeks. It might have been six or seven weeks, but I think it was two months was blocked off for that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So altogether, it was like a four-month program.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Started in December for me, and I think I graduated in April. And the Sniper was great. So you're doing stalks. You're no longer taking pictures. You're taking shots. It was... It was great, and it was a lot of fun, and a lot of good dudes that you're there with, and you're just stalking around the woods in Indiana, taking shots. You're shooting yard lines every day, 300-win mag.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So the Mark 13, the Mark 11, it was just phenomenal. And then during—it wasn't deer season at the time, but when you go back to do stuff at sniper school, help instructor, whatever, during deer season, you're hunting in Indiana. I mean, it's just— It's fun.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Farthest shot in sniper school was a little over 1,200 meters. I want to say it's like 1,300 yards plus or minus. That's the furthest shot you take, which was interesting because that's when, I want to say of all people, I think it was Chris Kyle and them developed long-range target interdiction for the West Coast and the East Coast because the farthest shot we took in sniper school was,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Especially when we got to Afghanistan, it was like a chump shot. It was like, oh, 1,200 yards, that's great. It's an easy shot compared to some of the shots we're taking. The furthest person I killed was 2,345 yards. You killed somebody at 2,000? Yeah. How far? 2,345 yards. Holy shit.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So we got that, and then some of the guys in the hide site, some of them are still in. I'll try not to say their names.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We'll get there. But that was interesting to see. The furthest sniper school shot did not compare to what— We were shooting, like, regularly in Afghanistan or even, I think, sometimes even in Iraq. I mean, guys were taking, you know, some 1,500-meter plugs.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, yeah, especially with a lot of CQB-based stuff, you know, you won't. Well, these were— You're in sniper hides. Yep, these are sniper hides. We just— No, Afghanistan, I think, I shot one dude from like me to you, and I'd already shot him once. No kidding. Before from a sniper hide, yeah, I cleared up on him, and he sat up with his AK, and I, you know, cleared around this little wall on him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I shot him in the stomach, yeah. You'll get there, too. Where was that at? That was in a place called, well, it was close to Kalat would be the big area. It was pretty far. It was like a day's drive from Kalat, but it would have been close to Kalat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I think it was called Karam Kale, maybe. And it doesn't matter.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Top of the class? No, no, definitely not top of the class. A guy named Brian Clayton was at the top of our class. I think he got the gun. He did great. I actually did pretty good on the stalks. I stalked one day in just a flannel jacket and a Pair of blue jeans. It stalked all the way up, stalked around the instructor's little thing there and set up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, so I did good on the stalks because it's pretty flipping easy. I mean, if you can stalk up on a deer with a bow in the woods, you know, that's what I was doing in Alabama and I kind of slipped behind trees, find a spot, jump them, climb up, shoot a deer. If you can do that, you can stalk up on a bunch of flipping teen guys with binos. I mean, that's easy. And so it was stalking around.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so I'm with Blount County Sheriff's Office in Alabama. So I'm a post, what's called a post-certified law enforcement officer. And if the agency you work for is willing to partner with the feds in that way, this is the way the feds can take you through. For me, it was Title 19 law, I believe, if I remember right. I do two weeks of classes for that federal law. And then you are deputized under
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But that being said, I didn't, I'm maybe middle of the class, you know, is where I was. I was not – it's funny how the Lord works. I go in, oh, yeah, man, I can shoot. I'm going to use all this arrogance of who I am and how great I am and all this. I grew up in the woods shooting, and then all of a sudden you realize, no, I suck compared to these guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But, yeah, I think Brian graduated top of our class. There was a lot of good dudes in our class. But I graduated, and that – That's where I decided to have been dating my wife for a little while at the time. And graduation day, the family all comes. You can have family up, friends up, whatever. They all come up, shoot sniper rifles. It was a fun time. I invited my dad, my brothers, and her dad.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And me and him were fishing in Troy's pond. And I'm back fishing. And that's where I said, hey, I want to ask Lauren to marry me. Can I ask your daughter to marry me? And he said, you're going to have to ask her about that, son. But after this weekend, it's perfectly fine with me. He said they weren't out fishing. He loved the guns and the fishing. That's awesome. How'd you meet your wife?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My dad being a pastor, her grandparents went to their church. And we kind of knew of each other through that. And then my brother and his wife hooked us up on like a blind date one time when I came home on leave. I came back from that Iraq, Germany thing that I told you about. I came home and they kind of hooked us up on a blind date and we hit it off and started dating.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And six months later, I was asking her dad to, if I could, eight months later, I was asking her dad if I could ask her to marry me. Nice. Nice. You guys have been married ever since? Yeah, we've been married 16 years. Yeah. Congratulations. Thank you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Made it through the SEAL team. Yeah, she was with me the whole time through the SEAL teams. Just not the, you know, buds portion, but she did. Whatever it was. And you don't hear that very often.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Can't draw anything, but let's say this is her over here. And my wife's a great, great woman, by the way. I mean, she's unbelievable. Of everything she's good at, she's very wise. And I think a lot of women are probably this way, but she's very wise in... Let me know what relationships I should foster, whether business relationships or friendships or whatever, and which ones I should cut off.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
She's very perceptive of people. I'm not as much. So she's helped me a lot in that. So she's a great woman. But set all that aside, if she's here and I'm here and Christ is at the top and we're both seeking Christ, that's been something we've seen. We're going to grow together, grow closer together as we seek Him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If there's anything else that you see, because we're never going to lie on everything, I love everything that's awesome and cool. She loves things that are stupid. That's the way we look at it, right? And so we're never going to be going toward the same thing. I want to hunt and fish. She doesn't care about hunting and fishing. She just wants to spend money at stores.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And we're never going to coalesce on that. But if we both are growing into Christ, first and foremost, Matthew 6, 33, seek ye first the kingdom of God and His righteousness, and all these things will be added unto you. you'll grow close together. And that's been, that has been what's held us together for 16 years. It's, um, it's been phenomenal to see she's a believer like, like I am, obviously.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Homeland Security, Marshal Service, Secret Service, ATF, FBI, whatever it is. In my case, it's Homeland Security to work child exploitation as a federal agent. So that's a federal task force officer. I'm not a full-bore GS whatever federal agent. I'm a post-certified state agent who is sworn under the federal service to work, in my case, child exploitation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So that, that is easy, an easy question. That's, that's what keeps us together.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I leave sniper school, go to team three, combat deployment, uh, or do, do a workup, normal workup. Um, and, uh, now in a, an engagement relationship with my wife at that point in time, um, do the normal workup thing, slated to Afghanistan, go to Afghanistan. It was the Wild West at the time. I didn't realize this. I'll have to go back and look. Like I said, I talked with Stumpf recently.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, you got a bad memory. He said that deployment was 10 months long. For some reason, I was thinking six months, right? Because you know normal team deployments are six months. And he was right. It was a 10-month deployment, I think, from February till November was when the whole team was gone over there. Were you with him?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so he had done – he put me through second phase, and then he did his – it's not LDO. He was explaining it to me, but it's going to do an officer thing. I forget what it was called. And he checked into Team 3 because, you know, he was over at a development group, got shot, went to Buzz as an instructor, and that's where I first met him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
When he left Buzz as an instructor, he went to – and the only reason I remember this is because he literally was just telling it to me like last week or the week before. He went to Team 3 to do his – Team AOIC or whatever it was, because he was trying to do that officer program. And so he went to Afghanistan with us. But anyway, we did that deployment. It was the Wild West.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was what every team got signed up for. I loved it. It was great. Lots of, you know, just lots of gunfights. You know, you're getting bored, you're getting rocketed, killing bad guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, I mean, it's, the Navy wouldn't consider it my first deployment, but yeah, it's my first combat deployment for sure. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Checked in at the end of the Iraq deployment. Nothing, because, I mean, literally there, I was there for, you know, a week, you know, and then went straight over to, where did we go? I can't even remember where we went through. Doesn't matter. Went to Germany and did that. So, I mean, that's my experience in the SEAL teams. And now it's sniper school, work up, but now we're going to war.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's what every team that signs up for.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, we found out after because, see, you know, and I don't, I think they still do a similar,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
training pipeline or program not training but a deployment cycle uh would be your professional development so pro dev you know my pro dev was sniper school uh and then ult unit level training which is your you know assaults mar ops um you know land warfare all of that stuff and it was uh at the front end of that they kind of tell you where they think you're slated for each troop within the
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
within the team and, uh, which troops, two platoons, but each troop within the team, they kind of tell you where you're slated for, but I think they kind of decide over that unit level training, who's going to get to go where. Uh, and they, they told us sometime during that process that, uh, we were slated to go, uh, to Afghanistan and do the, uh, uh,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It turned into the commando mission and some of the VSO stuff that teams did, you know, later on in the, like, 2011. Can you explain what the VSO thing is? Yeah, so VSO. Civilians.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so VSO would be more like a Green Beret mission, right, where Green Berets go in, they live with the indigenous people in an area, and they try to build white space in these, you know, villages they're living in, right? So it wasn't... it was kinetic because everybody knows there's Americans here.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So they would come in and they would always try, it was very defensive in nature on the VSO side. And so you're trying to build white space so you could bring conventional military in, set up the stuff and start developing these areas that is really, they were, I mean, they were out there. You're just in the middle of nowhere with these folks living on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, their electricity was a guy bringing a battery the size of your end table right there and plug his lights up to it, and that was their electricity, well water. I mean, it was biblical times farming and stuff like that. So you would live in the villages with the people, and you would try to build white space pushing the Taliban out. So that's just a real...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
you know, layman's way of explaining what those VSO operations were. Well, this was at the front end of that. It really wasn't VSO operations. It was also commando missions. So that's the one for one, hey, we're training the, Afghani commandos or whatever, you know, that you want to call them, the ANA or the ANP, and we have to go out on ops with them for a specific target.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So not going after real high value targets, some Taliban commanders and stuff like that, but we're working one for one. This was at the front end of that. So we initially started off not having to do one for one operations. We were doing unilateral ops on our own. um, all over the, the country, but especially within Siege of Sotheby's.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then it kind of got, we got keyhole to doing the one-for-one operations with the Afghanis.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, one Afghan per, per operator. Holy shit. You know, so it, it didn't start out like that. It was, we're on our own. And then it was, you got to have partner force with you. So we might have four partner force guys per one or I'm sorry, um, one partner force guy, you know, for every four SEALs or something like this. You just have a few partner force guys.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Then it turned into literally got a partner force guy, got me. And it really wasn't great. It wasn't terrible. They would normally call a tax in on us, you know, doing stuff like that. We'd set up to do a KLE, a key leader engagement. We'd come in at night, set it in the daytime. Sometimes we'd go to areas where we knew we could get a Taliban commander and we might, you know,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
capture, kill that guy. Again, all lower level targets. It's not like you're going after bin Laden in any of these, but you're going after valuable people maybe for this area, for whatever the the big machine, the big green machine being the Army or, you know, big blue being NSW there and say, hey, this is who we want to go after. This is what we want.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So a lot of sniper missions, a lot of cool stuff on that. I'm trying to think. I lost my train of thought. I apologize. Oh, the VSO. So that was the front end of VSO because we were living with the ANA and their compound. We were living like—we call it the Alamo. I didn't have a shower for like 65 days. Just well water from a pump, no electricity, eating crap.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Like, we're living with it, but we're also rolling out and opping. So, I mean, it is complete freedom. It's the Wild West. It's like Josie Wells. It's what every country kid from Alabama desires when you sign up to go to war, right? It was literally freedom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
i did i felt like josie wells every day if everybody's hopefully everybody's familiar with outlaw josie wells that listens to this like you're you're just out doing the work and so that was really cool and then we built a fob up and moved out from that area with it right next to where they were but we moved out from there and then had more conventional come in and really started setting up fob tapper was the name of the fob
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
In Nabahar, a place called Nabahar. Eddie was actually there. You're talking about Eddie Gallagher earlier. We did turnover with their platoon. Oh, no kidding. Yeah, Ogden, Jared Ogden. He was there. We did a turnover with them. What part of Afghanistan is this? It was right on the border of Pakistan. So it's like it would be eastern, maybe a little bit northeastern.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was a little bit south of Ghazni, Afghanistan. I could show you on a map, but it's just a place called Nabahar. Karim Kel, a town right down from that, was a little bit of a Taliban stronghold until we killed some of the Taliban leaders in that area.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
With the DEA, it was the DEA FAST team, and we were out of— This is before I went to Navajar and we did the full turnover. We did a, I forgot where the op was, but they were burning the poppy fields. You remember the DA fast team? Yeah, I remember that. It burned the poppy fields and it was us, Bravo platoon, Alpha platoon, the whole task unit,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And we did a hop where they went in and burned a poppy field, found all the stuff they're sending out. I think they said like 70% of the world's opiates came from Afghanistan at the time. I don't know if that's still true or if it was true at the time. That's what they said. And we set up sniper overwatches and did the clearance in the villages for them. And they came in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They cleared alongside us and stuff, but they came in and dealt with the opiate side. That was the very first operation. And, dude, I was so... I played high school football. It's like the pregame nerves, your first op. I'm kind of nervous a little bit, but also super pumped because this is it. This is game day. And nothing crazy. I don't remember.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's exactly right, yeah. Yeah, so with all that, it's kind of like me and you talked about earlier. When you show up to Bud's, you remember it. It's like, hey, where are you from? Oh, I'm Jared. Nobody cares, you know. Everybody's yelling at you. So that's how I feel when we read that. So thank you for that nice intro.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We might have ran into a few guys and shot a few guys. I didn't shoot anybody on that op. But I remember like... this is it. You know, this is what it's all, everything is culminated to this event, right? The time to prepare is over because the time to perform is now. I was motivated and super stoked. Um, your team guy with a beard, you know, and all your patches and your, you know, cool guy hair.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
This is it. And, uh, so I just remember being super excited about going on that first stop, flying in the birds there. And, uh, Going in early morning, like nautical twilight, maybe three or four in the morning and getting set up and going through it. And then daytime, key leader engagement, going through the stuff, weapons caches, burning poppy fields, doing your biometrics.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We had the guys there with the—you remember the biometric thing? They do fingerprints and blood and eyes, doing all that stuff. And so that was my first operation. And— I think I got pictures from them. And if I can find them, I'll get Steven to send them over to you. That'd be great. Dude, just tickled pink, you know, like a kid on his first deer hunt. Just super excited. That was awesome.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because it was freedom. It was freedom.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, that's a great question. I would say the team is more important than you. And that's hard for a lot of people, especially in our society, to get past. And that's a learned trait. But the team is more important than you as an individual. So if you're looking to go join that team, but you can't get out of the mindset of me, me, me, me, me,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You might want to wait for a new level of maturity to set into your life, or you might want to reassess what you're looking at doing. So that would be the first thing, right? Team is most important. The second thing is if you believe what I believe, and then maybe this should be the first thing. If you believe what I believe as a Christian, pray and seek God's face about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Hopefully my wife hears it and hears how awesome that makes you sound, right? Yeah. But no, the most important thing as we go through this interview and as we talk, I hope that people hear about me, is one, I am a born-again believer in the person Jesus Christ. I am a Christian. And you've had Christians on this show.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because if He prepares that way for you, or if that's the way that you decide to go, He's going to prepare that path, and you're going to take those steps, and you're going to be successful. And if He doesn't have that way for you, you will not be successful. And so pray and seek His guidance. If you don't know the Lord, if you don't believe what I believe, ask God to reveal Himself to you.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We'll be in the person of Jesus Christ, and He can draw that path out for you. That's what I tell guys when they call me, that part I just told you about the Lord and Christ. But the second part that I don't tell many people often is the team is more important than you as an individual. Elevate that above yourself. And if you don't think you're able to do that, you won't be successful.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Great advice. Do you have any hard lessons learned being a new guy? Yeah, this wasn't as a new guy. And I didn't see this until after I was out I'll give you two things on this. My chief, Mike Birkenbach, he's retired. He's a Red Squadron guy. Came over as chief of my last platoon at Team 3 before I left. And, man, I just, especially after that combat deployment, all this, I gave that guy...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
unbelievable hell, you know, just as a, you know, just, just arrogance. I mean, if you just really want to be honest, if I'm, if I'm being honest with Jared or being honest on, on the show right now, arrogance toward, towards him, toward, this is what we do. I mean, I was, and he was probably one of the best operators I ever worked with.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Of course, he came from development group, you know, and he was, he was there. So, but I mean, he was unbelievable. He was fair. He was a, he was a good guy. And I'm not saying that he was right about everything that he did, but I did not honor him in the way that God calls a Christian man to honor those who are over him in Scripture, right? That would be the first thing.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And the Lord laid that heavy on my heart in 2015. It was a group life action. who came through my dad's church. My wife and I were there, and this pastor was preaching. His name's Shane. He's preaching, and he's talking about getting right with people that you have wronged and being man enough, or to men and women, or woman enough to own what you've done that's wrong.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And man, the Lord just kept laying, Mike Berkham, Michael Maher, Mike Berkham. He was still on the team at the time. And so I went out, I left, went out and called him. And I can't remember if he answered then or if he called me back later, but I said, hey man, I just want to let you know I'm sorry. This is like three years after the fact, two years after the fact. I said, I'm sorry.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, for what? You know, I ain't talked with you in a couple of years. What are you sorry for? And I laid it out for him. So the Lord has laid this on my heart and I can't move on unless I get this right. So, and we've rekindled that relationship somewhat. I talked to him a couple of years ago when he retired, came back to his retirement. But to me, that was,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
that was the the biggest regret i have of the seal teams that i could have done something about not that to be honest with you the bureaucracy of the teams and government in general you know set all that aside there's plenty of stuff we can nitpick and say is wrong that pissed me off about seal teams that pissed me off about the government whoever was elected whatever the bureaucracy was jared could have done that better
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So that was my biggest regret and probably the biggest thing I learned, but it wasn't until after the team. It wasn't until it was too late. The biggest thing I learned as a new guy, a million attaboys can go away with one single uh-oh. Long story short, I shot set sniper hide three or four rooms deep and scope cleared and could see the guys in the town, you know, and I was a sniper on the gun.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You've had guys that might not be Christians, but they at least have faith and believe something. I mean, the most important thing to me is that because it's eternal. So I will talk heavily about that. but I do want to preface it with this. That means that I believe Jesus is God reincarnate. He's the son of God.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
There was another sniper there. I was like, no, I'm going to be on the gun, dude. He's like, no, no, you're good. Yeah, yeah, you'll be on the gun. You're a better shooter than me and all this. I remember, and I won't say the guy's name. Some of them are still in, but these dudes walk across the little field and got my little UNS on the thing. I mean, dope set.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They're like 425 yards, easy flipping shot, 300 wind mag, few rooms deep, nothing. Nothing. Something hits me in the face. Man, I shot, you know, those parapets that are like the porch, you know, that the parapet, like you're out on the porch and they've got the little mud walls. Yeah. Yeah. And I'm four rooms deep shooting.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, my scope sees overseas in, but my muzzle, I was freaking punching that. So, I mean, we wound up going out and, you know, successfully completing the mission by killing the guys we need to kill and doing the stuff we need to do. But I fired three shots into a wall at, you know, 30 yards where I was, you know, a great sniper hide and,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
All them attaboys, all them good sniper things, you know, all that stuff, it completely goes out the window when everybody finds out you shot the wall three times. Damn, damn. How'd you redeem yourself? Oh, I don't know. Just continued to work, you know, continued to try to do the right thing, you know, but shot that wall. Park looked at me, he's like...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, bro, I think you're shooting the wall. I'm like, ah, there's no way. That third shot, something hit me in the face. I'm like, I shot the wall. Holy shit. That .300 Win Mag rattling out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so it's funny you mention that. I did this in the police academy working CQB. Angles and distance are everything, right? Whether you're in a building fighting with somebody or whether you're in a sniper hide. So if I can fire a shot, from this window right here looking over a target. You might see me, you might not, but everybody's gonna look up, oh, there's a guy on that window.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But if I can shoot through that same window and be four more windows away, it's gonna be a whole lot harder for you to find me. So again, for a sniper or even just an operator doing CQB, I wanna use all the angles and distance to my advantage, because there's nothing that I can do all the way up here where I'm being seen that my rifle can't do better from back here where I'm not seen.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And so that's why we were three rooms deep. I guess that porch would have been technically a fourth room where we were firing out through the rooms, out the doors, and I hit that. It would have worked great had I not shot the wall. It would have been phenomenal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
As John chapter one says, in the beginning was the word, the word was God, the word was with God. Everything was made through him and by him. And without him, anything that we see that was made, it wasn't even made. Everything is through him. And he was the light and life of men and the light shone in the darkness, the darkness couldn't overcome it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'm trying to think. Building white space. I can't remember. I think we just drove ATVs. Remember those side-by-sides we had? I think we just drove those from the FOB that we were building up where we were staying at. Sometimes we'd take helos to a certain place, but I think we just drove them the whole way. I know we drove them back. We go out. It's dark. It's like 2 in the morning.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Unilateral op. We're looking for these specific people, some guy that was making HME, the homemade explosives, in that area. We set up a sniper hide. Me and a guy, I won't use his name, he's at Red right now. He might be a warrant officer now. That's how old we are. He's a warrant now. So he...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We sit up on a hill and we're told, hey, let everybody leave the village unless you see anybody leaving with weapons, engage them. And if you see anybody coming into the village with weapons, engage them. I mean, that was pretty much, and we're in the South Sniper Hide. Stumpf and his crew were in the North Sniper Hide, and then there was a couple other guys on the West.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's where the mountains, that's kind of how they set up. This was a real flat, salt flat area by this town, and I cannot remember the name of the town. but they're doing their clearance.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So we set up, they go through in their clearance, they start on nods, they finish at daytime, they bring in the key leader engagement, so they bring in the leaders of the town, they're talking through them, they found some weapons caches and stuff, and people leave the town and this guy burns in.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He had his AK slung, he had the saddlebags on his bike that you could see the, I thought it was HME bins or whatever, it wasn't, it was actually empty jugs. I guess he was going in to get HME, but he had all the mortar fuses and all that stuff to hook up the IEDs. Shot him off a motorcycle at 600 meters. Your first kill was at 600 meters? Yeah, 600 meters.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was about 650 yards, maybe just inside 600 meters. Damn. He hit a turn...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
uh i shot at him a couple times you know that 300 women you know and racking that bolt and he when he hit a turn i found a spot where he was going to slow and kind of turn toward me and uh i shot him through the gas tank of that motorcycle and that hit his leg and he gets out he's like trying to figure out where it's coming from pointing his ak looking around um
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's the first five verses in John chapter one, but verse 14, the word became flesh and dwelt among men. That's what I believe. I believe Jesus is God reincarnate. and he came to this world, lived a perfect life, died on the cross, and rose again on the third day. For my sins, your sins, and it's through him we're set free. We have eternity with God.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I just dialed, I had my dope dialed up. I dialed my dope down real quick, just flattened it out so I could hold in my reticle, you know. Them old night force scopes with the Mildot, it didn't have like a horse reticle or what we'd shoot now. But I just dropped it down, held in my scope and center punched him.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
When I did hit him in the belly and he crawled behind this thing and then we broke down the high side and cleared over to him and he was behind this like old
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
broken down wall you remember you know how they had like half built buildings out there old rundown it's like something like that um and he he kind of sits up around the corner with his ak from about me to you and you know i threw up the uh it was a scar i actually had at the time a 762 scar heavy we're the first ones that we're testing i think the rangers were testing them we were testing them i deployed that thing and shot him from about me to you in the head with that and
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
ended him and that was that was the first kill so that was uh point blank with a scar in the head yeah i got i might i don't know if i've got pictures of all that stuff in employment because you maybe have to take pictures of guys and then you have to bring them in At one time, I had pictures of that stuff. I mean, it's not something we generally share.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Don't put it up. We can't get it. But it was no joke. You know, the .223, you shoot somebody in the head, it, like, canoes their dome. This thing just, like, Gallagher busting a watermelon, that 7.62. But, yeah, that was my first kill. And then we got in a few little ticks. What did you—hold on. How did you feel about that? I mean, strong Christian faith since childhood.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I was tickled pink. I mean, that's what we had signed up for. I would say now, you know, looking back on it, did it make any real difference in my life whether I would have done that or not? No. Did it make me any more of a man or any less of a man if I killed somebody or not? No. But this guy—this is the way I guess I rectified myself as a Christian man—
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If I'd have met this guy in a coffee shop, maybe I'd tell him about Christ and try to share Christ with him. But Scripture tells us, Paul says, that God has put every man exactly where they are in the exact time, in the exact place, in the exact moment, so that they might reach out and find God. It's our own rebellious hearts that keep us from being able to see what God has for us to share.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then when you... When you're killed or when you die of old age or whatever it is, you have received every bit of time that God was going to allot you to accept Him. That's what Scripture tells us. And at this point in time, my job is not to pray for this man's salvation.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My job is to kill this man because if I didn't, he's going to go place an IED that one of my buddies are going to run over in a little bit or some posh-tuned kid is going to run over while they're out there playing with the soccer ball or whatever. So that's kind of how I justified it. You know, it's...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But I do struggle with now knowing what the government is, especially after the pullout in Afghanistan and working that. I know we might get into that in a little bit. I struggle wholeheartedly with why we were there politically. But at the time, I didn't know it. What year was this? This was 2010. This would be 2010. Oh, this is later than I thought. It might have been 2000.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That is the most important thing because it's eternal. I'm not always going to be a husband, a father, a seal, a law enforcement officer, whatever it is. Sean's not always going to be doing these great interviews with interesting people, I would be at the bottom of that interesting list. But you're not always going to be doing this. But how you transact with Christ in this life is eternal.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, maybe it was 2009. No, it was 2010. That's right, 2010. It was February of 2010 is when we went there. Yeah. Yeah. What about being there bothers you? Being there in the moment didn't bother me. Missed my wife. Looking back. The reasons we were there, the military-industrial complex, the issues that we see. I mean, we see it going on in Ukraine right now.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You've been to enough places in the world. I've been to enough places now, multiple deployments where we can see that I would have been willing to fight anybody who wanted to talk trash about the United States of America going and doing the patriotic thing
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
as a young man, but now as an older man, and I see the real reasons we were in some of these places, and I see how we left it, that's what bothers me. It bothers me that I won't say I lived or believed a lie somewhat, but there is a little bit of that wondering and thought process there, if that makes sense.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, I don't know. I would have to say probably when, because I came in, when I checked in the teams, it was in the tail end of the Bush administration, so I didn't get to experience much of Bush. I would say it had to be within the Obama administration, you know, for me is when I noticed it, because it was... I mean, we could get nine layers of air.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We'd get air coming in to take a posthumous guy who was injured out, but one of our guys would be bleeding out and dying, and you couldn't get anybody land to save them. So they elevated the posthumous life over ours on one end, but on the other end, Look at what they did in the pullout. They absolutely let those people get crushed. And so I can't understand it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I don't know if I can understand why they do what—when I say they, I'm talking about the system, you know, whoever's in charge, the administrations. I don't get it. We're not there to win. We're fighting a global war on terror. What is that, the global war on scariness? You can't fight something that's not an enemy. You know, we're fighting the Russians. There's an enemy, or we're fighting the—
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The Taliban, there's an enemy, but a war on terror, it's just like drugs and law enforcement. The war on drugs, you can't fight a war on drugs. It's an inanimate object, and it's obvious. We've been doing it since the 80s, and it's getting worse, right? The same thing with a war on terror. So that is where I really struggle.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'll say at least where it flipped for me where I started thinking this was probably COVID to see how the government acted during COVID, to see how many guys they kicked out and kicked to the curb and what they pushed that we now know was a lie. And we don't have to get into all that, but that was probably where it really clicked for me.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Man, I didn't always trust the government, but I really don't now because they've been caught – with their pants down. And then Afghanistan pullout, that was the nail in the coffin for me. Yeah, me too, man. Me too.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Or how about when they smoke a carload full of kids? They're trying a guy like Eddie Gallagher for killing a guy in combat, but they smoke a carload full of flipping kids and some basically social workers because they said it's ISIS, and then they lie about it. Oh, you're talking about the USAID workers that they killed.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So that's the first thing. The second thing, I'm a husband and a father. Everything else set aside, God has given me my wife and my kids to guide, to direct, to teach, to protect, to provide for. And if I can't do that, then I can't even do all these other things. And it's a scriptural principle. It says, be faithful in the little things.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It was a drone strike, that's right.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They thought it was the ISIS-K guys is what I was told. I just remember because we were getting people, pulling people out in the process, and I got a call from a buddy. Were you there? When that happened, yeah, we were in. I think I was in. I can't remember if I was here getting ready to leave or if I was in Istanbul ready to go into Tajikistan. But either way, I got a call from a buddy.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, hey, you hear what happened? And I said, what? He kind of explained. I said, yeah, the ISIS-K guys, they smoked. He goes, yeah, no, it was a carload full of kids and some, his exact words were social workers. But I mean, he was probably trying to say what you just said, USAID workers.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then they lie about it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that is really where it was the – the straw that broke the camel's back for me to really look into. And now you go into some of the interviews that you've done, some of the people you're talking to about what we've given. I've talked with buddies in Congress about what we've been doing in Afghanistan. And a lot of these guys at the political level, they don't even know.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I think a lot of them don't care. But a lot of them are obtuse to what's going on because the bureaucracy hides it. that's one of the benefits of Trump going in is he's going to deal with the bureaucracy. I hope he will. That's drain the swamp.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That is crush the bureaucracy, which keeps the politician from knowing actually what's going on and keeps the guy on the ground from getting what they actually need to do the job. So anyway, all that being said, that is... I don't know where the flip or the switch happened. Maybe there was never a switch and it was always that way.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But I know for me, when I started seeing the writing on the wall was probably that 2019 to 2021 timeframe of COVID into Afghanistan pullout. It was—it's sickening. It's almost embarrassing to say that you were a part of it. Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Oh, yeah. What were you guys doing? There was another—
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
task unit size so two civil platoons clearance and overwatch um being a sniper i can't remember what we did but wherever we inserted we cleared through this little area climb this mountain we're doing overwatch of you know another village that they were clearing through and then they did a key leader engagement um and it was kind of supposed to be a taliban stronghold in that area and they uh
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
This is the most important thing, but it's also something little. Because if I can't be faithful with the wife and the kids that God has... bestowed upon me, then I can't be faithful with my business or with a nonprofit or with anything else. So those are the two most important things about me aside from all that other stuff that is interesting, but it's not important.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They were getting to a lot up north. We didn't have much going on where we were. It was hot, flipping miserable. And these guys come out and of course they're armed to the teeth. They got their Rhodesian's on and their AKs. I think one of them had, it wasn't a PKM, but it was one of those AKs with a long barrel and the big bipod legs, you know? And it was, but it wasn't a PKM. It was just a RPK.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Is that what they're called? Yeah. So anyway, They ride out together on a motorcycle, and one of the snipers shoots at him and misses. And then I start shooting at him, and the guy that was with me, Greg, he just starts lazing with the big viper. Remember the big vector? Yeah, yeah. One of those humongous things. He's like, hey, you know, 1,700 cents.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I had my dope set, and I remember doing the holdover, and I could see that big Roffus round from that .50 BMG going right or left. They slow turned, and Greg, I rattled through four shots, and then on the fifth one, I remember looking at it, Greg said, 23.45, send it. He was just giving me the lasers. That was the last one. So I looked at my dope card.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I cranked my dope to what would have been 23.50. put the wind hold on that I thought, which was just, it was actually a little bit. So if they're going this way, my wind hold was actually this way. I remember being on about the second mill dot. I remember seeing it vividly, like I could draw it for you, right? That one thing, but I closed my eyes. Natural point of aim's good.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Please, Lord, let it hit. Boom. I remember watching the trace of that big bullet go through the sky. I thought I shot over him. It went through his front leg, went through the bike, went through the leg on the other side, and blew up on the other side. You know, the raw fish rounds and blowing the hit. And he fell over, and I was like, oh, man, I thought it went.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I saw the trace, and it dropped down. Trace is, you know, the vapor trail of the bullet, you know, for anybody who's listening and watching. Falls over, and I was like, see? He said, I don't know. I can't tell. We couldn't really see, you know, at that distance. And the TU commander comes over and said, hey, how far was that person that you just shot at, Hud? I said, a little over two clicks.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, that's a long shot, son. He's calling for a medic and a mechanic. And so he laid there and bled out, and they were actually able to go get some of his ID material, his guns. He just laid there. Nobody came back for him. They got his bike when they cleared over and cleared the, I guess, cleared that side of the...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
the village so that was my furthest kill uh definitely not the furthest one out there but it was like one a mile and a third so it was like i said missed him four times so blind squirrel finds a nut every now and again so you know it it worked out but yeah that was uh and again you know what we were doing that for the specific job that God put me in that place to be a sniper at that time.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's how you justify that. He didn't put me in that place to be a missionary or anything else. I was in that place to be a sniper and protect my guys who were literally clearing the village to go over there where he's going to plant his IEDs and to set up an ambush on these guys. And it's my job to make sure that they get home to mama and the babies. And so that's what we're there to do.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's why it's important to understand you can't, Proverbs 19, 2 says, zeal without knowledge causes you to miss the mark. You've got so many people that are zealous for so many things, but they have zero knowledge about what actually went on.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I encourage your listeners, heck, even you, make sure that we look at that every day. I don't always do it perfect. I mess up all the time. Look at that every day. What is the most important thing? who I am in the person of Jesus Christ, and that woman and those girls that I'm called to raise right now. Those are the most important things in my life. Thank you for saying that.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I could have all kinds of zeal about the political climate and what's going on, but if I have no knowledge of what's really happening, I'm going to totally miss. This is what I know. This guy is trying to kill my buddies and trying to kill me, so I've got to kill him. And that's just the way it is. Yeah, yeah.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Brendan Looney, just to be the only thing, because he was such a solid dude. Brendan Looney died toward the end of the deployment in September. I think we rotated, by the time everybody rotated out was November 1. Month and a half left, Looney died. How did he die? Hilo crashed. Hilo got shot down.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That was, I mean, as you know, most of your buddies, most of my... Hilo is very rarely... At the front end of the deployment, we had an augment that Andy set up with gold because he was connected, and then we did an interop with him, and then some of our guys attached to them. That's when Adam Brown died at the front end of the deployment, like March. Oh, shit. Yeah, so that was...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So it started off that way with us being kind of tied to them. That's how we got in early and started doing the rip and some of our guys doing the augment with gold. Adam died and then Green Beret died in the middle of deployment. We had to go out and he got shot and drowned in a river and we had to go out and look for him under a dam, if I remember right. That was the last time I saw Looney.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Then Looney died a couple months later in that Hilo crash. Then there was a couple other team guys that died that I didn't know really well, but I'd met them. A young guy who I knew, he was a couple of training classes, Behind me, if I remember right, I literally ate breakfast with him. Not breakfast, but just ate dinner, but they cooked eggs and all that stuff.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You could choose what you wanted to in Kandahar. Ate with him the night before, and then he was on that helo the next day on that turnover op or whatever it was. That was hard because it was... It wasn't everybody's first time to experience loss. Team 3 had suffered a lot of loss from Mikey Monsoor to Ryan Jobe to Mark Lee to now all those guys, now Brendan Looney.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So Team 3 had suffered loss, and a lot of guys had experienced it. But at least for me and a couple of the guys, this was really our first real combat deployment. We went through training with him, he's a good buddy. That was hard. And then, yeah, so that would be... That'd be the hardest thing. Damn, damn. And Dennis Miranda, by the way, was the guy that I ate with.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I don't know if I said that a little bit ago, that I kind of knew through a few training classes. He was at Team 4, I think, doing the turnover op. He died as well.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Surprisingly, really well, you know. There's one great thing about any accusation anybody wants to level against the SEAL teams, and I love all special operations. I'll never talk trash about Delta, Green Berets, MARSOC, SEAL teams, any of them, because it takes a special person. And even in Scripture, God upholds men of war, real men of war.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And so special operations, I don't care what anybody says, conventional forces just generally are not doing what special operations are doing. We're always at the front end of the combat. Some conventional forces are. But all of special operations are generally, if there's combat going on, they're going to be somewhere there and near it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
A lot of people need to take note.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And God holds a special place in His heart for the warriors, so all of them do the same. I can't speak to those other organizations, though, but what I can do is speak to the SEAL teams, in particular Group 1. Bro, what they offered and what they do for when you do lose a friend, a close one, what they do for the families is hands down the best community I've ever experienced or been around.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My wife still talks about that, and we were in it for a short amount of time. It's not like I did a 25-year career and retired. The best community to have around you when something like that happens. I mean, you had guys coming out to Danny's from all the East Coast teams, development group, SDV out in Hawaii or Oregon.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Guys were coming in to Danny's just to honor Brendan Looney and hang his picture on the wall there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
A lot of tradition there. You'll never hear me level an accusation against NSW about how they treat people, especially when loss happens. They did very well and the team recovered well and we moved on because it's what we do. That's the hardest thing for us to understand. Mama and the girls, When daddy dies, they live with that forever.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The team, yeah, you remember your boys, but it's the machine that's going to keep going. And I think a lot of times we forget that as team guys. We forget that they're giving up everything in their life. They're giving up daddy. They're giving up my husband versus the team. You're a cog in the wheel. And yeah, your boys might give up a friend, but you're a cog in the wheel. And that's okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's a good question. Andy Stumpf asked me recently, he said, what do you mean by evangelical Christian? Born-again believer basically just means what I just said, you believe that about Jesus. And Nicodemus actually says to Jesus, he says, well, how can a man be born again? Is he going to go back into his mother's womb? And Jesus says, no, that's not it.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not a bad thing. That's just the way it is. Yeah. You mentioned guys that get divorced. I think that's one of our biggest issues is we're all about the team, all about the machine. And then we don't realize we're a cog in the wheel until we realize we're a cog in the wheel and we're out.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And Mama and the girls have been sitting here on the sidelines the whole time giving you up and you've been giving the best of yourself to this machine that's going to keep going whether you're there or not. they're not going to keep going whether you're there or not.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
If there is an accusation I can level against our community, it's that we fail to realize that our most important job as our wives and our kids, not the SEAL teams, not the boys. And that's hard to hear and hard to say because I'd die for these guys, but I'd most certainly die for these girls too. They need a daddy to be there for them. It doesn't mean that you're afraid to die.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Most certainly, you go out and do the job, and if you die, you die. That's just the way it is. But if I can be here for them and not be off with the boys, hanging out, going out to the bars or wherever with them, and I can be at home with my family, that's where I should be.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, no, I knew that beforehand. And I didn't have kids at the time. Yeah, I mean, it's a scriptural, it's a Christian principle. And so I was rooted in that. And I would say any angst I had, it was that the team always wanted you to do this. And it's like, no, I need to be here with her. And then when you have kids, I need to be here with them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And it's hard for guys like us because I definitely wanted to be there with the boys doing X, Y, and Z because that's how you build rapport and trust. But I mean, that's... It's just the culture, I guess, of it. And too many guys don't realize they're just a cog in the machine until they're out and they're no longer a cog in the machine.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, yeah. You did? Another deployment, yeah. At the time, I was mad because I wasn't going to Afghanistan with the other guys, and it was a year-long deployment. that we did. We rotated in and out. That's when we did the Korea, Yemen, Bahrain, the Cree mission out of there. Took down some ships during that time. That was pretty cool. The Gulf of... When were you in Yemen? 2000 and...
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
2011, no, 11, 2012, 2012, because 2011 was finishing our, because extortion happened August of 2011, and that was at the tail end of our workup, and then we deployed December of that year, 2012. Yep. Were you down in Aden? Yeah, so the way they broke us up, they split up our platoon. We initially all went to, is it the Gulf of Aden? Is that where the, yeah, so we initially went there.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We landed at some, I tell you what, Dave could probably tell you better. It's some air base. Our OIC could tell you better. There's an old Russian air base just landed there in the middle of the night, offloaded. And it was the same time that some guys from Dev Group got in that gunfight in the street where they're going in to get their hair cut, and they got in a gunfight.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that was a whole ordeal. So it was around that same time. I think it was February of 2012. landed and then they split the platoon. So half the platoon stayed there. The other half of us, we went and did a mission with SDV running sniper overwatch for them out of Bahrain. And we stayed on a ship for a few weeks running sniper overwatch for SDV. And then we went back to Bahrain
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We were born into sin because we're from the line of Adam, right? If you read scripture, you understand that Adam and Eve sinned in the beginning. Eve was deceived. Adam disobeyed. Without going too much into the theology or the story, that's what we see. Adam disobeyed. When God said, what have you done, right? God comes to Adam and Eve. He looks at Adam and says, what have you done?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Running Sniper Overwatch for SDV.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah. It's cool now. It wasn't super sexy. I'll tell you one cool thing. You know, everybody, when I was making fun of, you got the guys that you combat swimmer. Oh, you got microscopic bubbles coming out of your mask. They're going to find you. Remember that? You know, doing the dive where you can't have the bubbles?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Dude, that frigging SDV machine would off-gas underwater like you popped a balloon the size of this room underwater. Humongous bubbles. Good. But I remember being able to look down on Nod's and see the glow of the SDV while running Sniper Overwatch for them. And then we had a half and a bath that was kind of running for them. I can't talk.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
too much about all that they were doing, but they were probing certain areas from my understanding. And we were just making sure that they didn't get rolled. There were Iranian vessels in the water, you know, floating around, pointing guns at us. We had some pirates that we dealt with, you know, sank a few little pirate dinghies with the minigun when they get up close to the SDV.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, it was... No kidding. That was pretty neat.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Just basically these guys would get in these certain areas and, you know, they had the... the door gunners in the, in the helo that we were with and had the little mini gun. And, you know, most of the time as those guys would come up, a lot of them would jump out of the boat and swim away because here comes this big helo.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And whenever that happened, you just, just like a, like a wood crate, like a John boat or something almost. I mean, it wasn't anything special. You just zip it up with a mini gun and,
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
know blow it to pieces let it sink right there and carry on with life you know so they couldn't i guess continue to do what they're doing now they're just stuck out in the water swimming around right on yeah where were you guys doing shipboardings uh we're doing shipboardings in the same area and then in the in the red sea with the uh went to jordan and did a a j set with him and did the uh did a ship in the red sea with their jordanian uh ctu i don't know some kind of tier one unit
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I met King Abdullah while we were there. I mean, he shook our hand when we flew in. I thought that was really cool, especially now with all that's going on. Went to, I guess it's Kasatik. I didn't know it was called Kasatik at the time, you know, where they got the tubular assaults and all that stuff in northern Jordan and Amman. Got to go to Petra while we were there. That was cool to see.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But I did train in Kasatik or in Amman and Aqaba down there, and that would be where – We did some of the shipboardings down there, and then we did— What were you doing ship—were these real shipboardings? No, no, no, no. These were all—so these were all J-sets. Okay.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
All of them were J-sets, with the exception of one shipboarding that we did out of Bahrain, but that was separate from all these things. These were hook and climbs with their Tier 1 units on, you know— Just ships they had in the Red Sea that they set up to do it on. And I'd never done, we did those in the teams going through training, but I'd never done a lot of them.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We did some in Korea, and that was cool, especially since I was a hearse castmaster and I didn't have to be in the water doing the climb. We'd do the rope on the deck. So we did a lot of those with the rock seals, too, and the snow. I mean, it's like what you see in the movies. So those were J-sets. The one real ship boarding was done with the Cree out of Bahrain.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Why were you aboard in that ship? That's a great question. Depleted uranium and some weapons and stuff. I want to say somebody fell in the drink, and it was just like jumping across onto the boat. Somebody fell in the drink, and he's out now. I won't say his name, but he fell in the drink, and he's fine. And then another guy, I think they—
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He said, the woman you gave me. calls me to eat of this fruit or gave me this fruit and said, eat. Everybody will say that he's blaming the woman. He's not. He looks at God and he says, God, the woman, you gave me. He blamed God. And that is what our nature is because we come from Adam. We blame God for our shortfallings, for our failure, for our sin. That's what we're born into.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Somebody shot two guys on that boat that were armed, and it was just kind of like the Houthis vessel board they just did in January, very similar to that, just a different sea state and a different vessel. So that was the— Oh, shit. So you guys boarded a ship.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I don't even know anybody that's— No, I mean, no, I didn't get those kills. That was— I'll find, I'll text somebody when we leave here and I'll find the name and see who the team guy was. But yeah, they did that. That was 2012. And then we had guys in Afghanistan and kind of culminating event for that one was... Hold on, hold on. So you went back to Afghanistan?
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, no, this is a troop of Team 3 in Afghanistan. Oh, okay. We lost... Warson, Feeks, and I went through training with Pat. We lost them in a hill crash. Dan, earlier in that deployment, I think I was, we were doing the SDV thing at the time. Dan kick-started that IED, or I guess he did, and the guy in front of him, Dan Crenshaw, had that ID go off or trip wire, whatever it was, blew him up.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So nobody knew how Dan was going to be, you know, because we knew he was in the hospital. He had his eyes and all that. So that had happened. Then we lost... Orson and Pat. And so that was kind of, that was heavy. That was very heavy on the team because literally now it's, and then the year prior, we had lost in August of 2011, extortion went down.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We had done an augment with all of those guys or an interop and an augment. So we knew a lot of them. D-Rock came from a Bravo platoon, from my first platoon when I checked in. He was there before he went and screened and went to development group. And then we had buddies went through training with Nick Spihar. I told him the night before he went. So a lot of loss in a very short amount of time.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that was heavy on the community as a whole, but also on us at team three, because we were all, we all knew those guys pretty tight with those guys. And so it was literally always like one funeral right after another. You're constantly nailing your freaking tridents into a coffin. So that wrapped that deployment, and then Benghazi happened.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We were overseas when Benghazi was going down, and everybody was getting word on that, spinning up. And Ty Woods was a BUDS instructor when I went through. I remember hits, I mean, it was just like, God, man, hits keep coming for us people we know. So that was pretty much what rounded my career out.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I checked into sniper school after that, left Team 3 screen positive for development group and for green team. And
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
was uh my chief mike berkenbach told me say hey look if you if you stay you're going to take a slot uh if you get out you need to decide now and you and you decide good and so i said i'm going to get out i'm going to go to the reserve we're going to go back home and that's where they found that type 1 diabetes and that was another year and a half process and get my um
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
benefits, retirement IDs, the health care for the family, all the stuff that they all go back and forth and fight on because I could have been in the regular Navy. Couldn't be in the SEAL teams with being insulin dependent or couldn't be a SOCOM or JSOC operator and be insulin dependent. But I could be in the conventional military. And so anyway, all that being said, it worked out good.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I got everything I needed and got into law enforcement. So you decided to get out before you found out you had type 1? The reason they found out I had type 1 diabetes is because I was doing my medical process out, yeah. What was it? They said it was the anthrax vaccine. And I've had some doctors tell me, well, no, there's no way it can be that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I had a lot of other doctors tell me that within the system that we're like doing my blood work, finally, no, this is the anthrax vaccine. So that's what I hold it to, because the hardest part they had is, like even my evals, it said, suggested to screen for development group, high performer physically.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But through the person of Jesus Christ, who came and lived that perfect life, I talked about it in John chapter one, died on the cross and rose again. It's through his blood that we can be rebirthed into new life, no longer a life of sin, but a life of perfection and animosity or indifference towards sin, but only in the person of Jesus. Why? Because he obeyed God to the very end.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, they're like, hey, how can this, this is what the Navy said, how can this guy be this high performer, yet he has diabetes? Because everybody's mind goes to Wilford Brimley, I guess, with diabetes, right? this doesn't make sense. So, if he's a high performer, we can't medically retire him. So, I broke my back a few times for the workups, deployments, all that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I had some knee surgeries and TBIs from Afghanistan IEDs and RPGs. So, they added all that in, and that's where I was able to get my benefit. Now, I say that I say that tongue-in-cheek because a lot of people think that means you can't work, you can't do anything. That's not the way it is. I mean, I can still perform. I can still do the job a lot.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I just can't be a SOCOM or JSOC operator and be insulin dependent. Yeah. That was the ultimate thing.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I wanted— My wife's school was paid for. She's a nurse, my wife is, but her school was paid for, but all the schools in San Diego were impacted. We couldn't get her into school there. We looked at, hey, if you stay in, go to Green Team and go through that process.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
know what that lead time is going to be and it was easy for her to go to uab right there in birmingham alabama and so i said look i'll go to the reserve team you'll go to nursing school i'll do two years of the reserve team let you finish school and then we'll get back in the navy and go to the east coast that was that was the plan yeah okay did you have any kids at the time no no kids at the time um but that was kind of our
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
plan and the the the type 1 diabetes just the lord used that to change my trajectory and i and i don't complain about it at all i mean i can't complain at all we've been blessed tremendously how was it coming home once you were out it wasn't nothing at home it's not even when you were out just how how was it coming home from knowing you were going to be done
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, you feel like you're out of prison a little bit because you're in the government. You know, I mean, it feels good, but nothing changed at home. Everybody had gotten older. Everybody had gotten jobs, but I mean, it's... Home was still home, but everybody had just grown up now. We weren't high school kids playing football and fighting and rolling yards or whatever it was anymore.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We're now adults with jobs and we can't goof butt around all the time. So that was the only thing, because the home I left was still the same home, but I was at a different place in my life. And so was all my friends, my brothers, my sisters, everybody. So that was the only difference.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then just went back and started trying to figure out what we're going to do for work because I'm going through my medical process out of the teams, which, like I said, it took until 2014.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That would probably be a better question to ask her, but I would say no. And she – I think she would agree with me. And things happen so quick with the medical, with going through that process, and then doing some anti-piracy contracts with Trident Group, realizing that I wasn't going to be able to do that with where I was medically deploying and getting into law enforcement.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
From law enforcement, starting my MBA, finishing, trying to, I say finishing, starting my MBA and finishing the MBA, starting my business. We just did a lot of stuff.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
in a short amount of time and there never was a difficulty transitioning it was just no so you didn't have any step step addictions depression anxieties no sleeping problems none of that dude i had no issues that i can and i will tell you this i mean i've obviously shared my faith
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And we see that at the end where he says, Lord, I know everything is possible for you. He really says, Father, right? Abba, I know everything is possible for you, but let this cup pass from me, please. He did not want to go through the cross. However, not my will, your will be done. That's what Jesus says before he goes to the cross.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I really think it's the person of Jesus Christ that, I mean, it says He gives you peace which surpasses all understanding. It says He is the only peace giver. He's the ultimate healer, Jehovah Rapha. If there was any of those issues, I think that He effectively dealt with them. For me, I never had anything like that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I was diagnosed with cancer in 2015, testicular cancer, went through that surgery, and that was a whole process. But we had kids that came from, they just said it was common in guys our age, OEF and OIF, you know, basically like our age group. It was a common thing, and they believe it came from cancer. what's a depleted uranium. And those office rounds are depleted uranium.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I didn't know that at the time. I mean, but they're depleted uranium apparently. And, or at least that's what somebody told me. One of those doctors said, and it was, and the IED jammers, you remember those things that you run on like the trucks? Yeah. Yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Maybe the Lord's telling you to go get checked out and make sure you're good to go because, I mean, that's it. Now, but here's the thing. That's just what they say. They think it comes from. They can't say it. But I think what I had was called a, if I remember right, a stage two common seminoma, and it was testicular cancer. And they just had to remove the one testicle.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So, you know, my buddies used to always say, hey, you're one nut for being a princess warrior, bro. That's what they used to tell me.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So I went through that process, and my wife was pregnant at the time, and it was different going into the, it's like a place where you get in vitro or whatever, like one of those clinics, but we'd have to go in to save semen in case we wouldn't have babies later if the surgery on me went bad and wound up making me infertile or whatever. So
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We're in that process, and here she is, eight months pregnant, and we're in this place where she felt really uncomfortable about it because we're in this place where people are struggling to have kids, and she is. She's a small lady, but she was obviously pregnant. But we went through that process, so that was a thing, and I did some work for the NACOA stuff.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
One of the few wildlife control operators that can shoot in the cities. I did it in New York, did it in the Hamptons, culling wildlife. I was looking to go doing wildlife biology stuff and getting all out of the tactical world. But when I had my first kid, just doing deer deployments didn't seem like what I wanted to do. Wanted to do.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, we were shooting deer all over the nation, Guam, culling animals, ungulates, pigs and deer.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You can see that in like the movie, The Passion of the Christ, him having that conversation with God. It's in all the gospels. not my will, but your will be done. And the scripture tells us he was obedient to the point of death. And we see that embodied in Job 13, 15, though he slay me, I will trust him. That's what Job says. Even if he kills me, I'll trust him. And that's what we see in Jesus.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, no, no, not going after poachers. So basically, you can look up the organization. White Buffalo, a guy named Pete Chamis, they're still on the SEAL teams. A buddy of mine went through training together. His father-in-law runs an organization, like a PhD wildlife biologist. They call him the deer doctor. Tony DiNicola, dude is great dude, like phenomenal dude.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I mean, we don't, me and him don't believe like the same as he's not, he's not like conservative, you know, like me or Christian like me, but he's a, he's a fair, reasonable guy. I could have a conversation with him, but he's wildlife biologist and they would do, wildlife control. Well, he asked me to help come teach a class because we connected through Pete.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I taught a class and he said, hey, would you be interested in doing this? And took me through a few interviews. I did a few shoots with him, went up to his place in Connecticut. And next thing you know, he hired me in and did animal control all over the nation, went to Guam. I mean, when I say animal control, I'm talking like, I was with him one night.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I think I was just spotlighting for these two nights and he was shooting, kind of teaching me what to look for and stuff. We killed 330 deer in two nights in Brookhaven National Laboratory. So, I mean, it's areas where there are massive animal like deer and pig problems. Gotcha. Ungulate control. And so that's what they call it. The animal is called an ungulate.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I did some cool stuff with pigs in Michigan, worked with him in Michigan State University. So it was really neat. It was a cool transition away from the tactical world, away from the law enforcement world, because now I've already left full-time law enforcement to go into this because this opportunity seemed better given all that I was dealing with medically and
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
what my wife wanted, wanted to grow the business, and did that for a few years, and the Lord just kept bringing up the tactical stuff, and I wound up leaving that full-time to stick with what we know, you know.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, this is 20, so when I went, I did full-time law enforcement for one year, and this opportunity came available, and it paid more money and it got me out of night shift work and all of the stuff that you deal with within full-time law enforcement that I know you're familiar with. I mean, you deal with law enforcement guys.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I was talking to one of your guys about law enforcement and kind of what he's dealt with. So I know you're kind of familiar with the stuff there. I was like, hey, if I can make more money and have a better schedule, then that's what I'm going to do. And so I left to go do that. What year were you a cop? 2014 into 2015. Because I left the SEAL teams in 2013. This is before it got bad to be a cop.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, it wasn't bad to be a cop at the time. It was still hard to get in because so many people submitted for it. Sheriff, me and him don't always get along, but I mean, I like him. He's a nice guy. I think he would say he likes me too. His name is John San Diego out of Shelby County Sheriff's Office. I think he's probably getting close to retirement now.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I talked to him not long ago on the phone, but he was a chief deputy at the time. And I'll be honest with you, I whatever anybody wants to say about, let's say, him as a law enforcement leader, because I think leadership in law enforcement is one of the biggest issues. That dude, all I can say is that if it wasn't for that dude, I wouldn't be in law enforcement today.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So the born again believer is, I live in sin and I die in sin. But in the person of Jesus Christ, I am born into a new life. I'm born into a sinless life. It doesn't mean I'm going to be perfect, even though I strive to be. I still sin. I still ask for forgiveness and repentance. But I am now dead to sin and alive in Christ because I've been born in the new life under the person of Jesus.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He got me into law enforcement. He gave me the opportunity that, honestly, yeah, SEAL, yeah, degree, all that stuff, it would have still been very hard to get had he not made some calls and got the wheels of justice turning, for lack of a better word, to get me into law enforcement, even going through all my medical stuff. Interesting. So I'm very appreciative of that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, so TSI, I started it when I became a cop, you know, just doing like training for women and stuff on the side. What prompted you to do that? Well, when I was in the teams, actually, and I started going through the process of looking at getting out even before the medical stuff, go back to that guy, Troy DeHart in Indiana I talked about.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I know he said, hey, man, we can make some killer money on the weekends training women. I've been doing this. He had an NRA instructor. He was a cop, and he had worked his way up through the system at that time. I think he might have been the chief prosecutor at Johnson County. That's where I wound up going to Johnson County and getting sworn. But anyway, he said— let's do this on the weekends.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I said, all right. So when I transitioned out and then they found the medical stuff, I'm going through that. I would fly into Indiana, teach on the weekends with them, you know, and make some money. And that's where we started TSI. He actually came up with a name, the Shooting Institute. And he's worked with me ever since. He's worked on government contracts. I've had him.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He's like one of... Him and a guy named Mike Rebels are the only two cops that have ever been able to work on a JSOC contract as instructors. So he... He helped me kind of get it going and start it up and ran it. And then he's like, hey, you run your thing. So there's another company called the Shooting Institute out of Indiana. That's not us. We work with those guys some, but that's not us.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Our Shooting Institute is the Alabama flag with a bone frog in the center of the flag, that red X with a bone frog. And anyway, that's what I've done since 2014. Did the wildlife work when I left it full time. I left because I kept getting called back to do SWAT trainings, to do government trainings and all that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And there was enough of that that I told Tony, thank you for the opportunity, but I'm not going to go the wildlife biology route. I'm going to go back to my roots, what we were doing, and spend more time at home with my wife. And now, you know, Everly was born in 2015, so one and a half year old daughter. So I left that and started doing the training.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's what being a born-again Christian means, based on the Scriptures. So were you always a Christian?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, that is a great question. How do you know it's God? One, in Proverbs, it tells us a man's path is before him, but the Lord directs his steps. We know that the Lord can only direct our steps if we are in Him. So the first thing is continuing that relationship with God. So I ask Jesus in my heart to be my Savior, right? But I spend time in His Word every day. I spend time praying every day.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So for me, and I'll tell you the amount of Scripture that I read daily, I write a commentary for each of my daughters each year. So I'm on, well, I did one for my wife. I did one for my oldest daughter. I'm on my middle daughter right now. I've been doing that for the last three years. So I've read the entire Bible.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
a little more than the entire Bible and wrote something on each chapter in the Bible. Like each chapter, I find something that stands out to me or I find a description. So it might not be a commentary necessarily. It might just be something that stands out in my life. How does this apply to me now?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I've done that for the last three years and I've always read, generally speaking, read the Bible throughout the entire year. like read the whole Bible in a year ever since I was, heck, probably 14 years old. So I read a lot of Scripture, and I learn something new every time. I don't know it more than anybody, but that's the first thing. God speaks to us through His Word.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Going back to John chapter 1, in the beginning was the Word. The Word is actually logos, is the word that's used in the Greek translation, I believe, and it means... A couple things, but the two primary focuses there is it's the written Word of God, it's the plan of God, and it's the spoken Word of God. That's actually what it means. So we have the written Word of God in the Holy Bible before us.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And if you do a study on the Bible, you see it, but it's like, oh, what about the translation and all these interpretations? No, it's actually pretty... Ducks nuts across the board. You're losing me a little bit. Oh, sorry, sorry. You're losing me a little bit. Just how do you know it's him? First, you stay in his word because you hear his voice there.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, and that would be—that is true. We are haywire, right? I mean, if you're born into sin, you're born into complete chaos and utter destruction because— The scriptures say, none is righteous, no, not one, right? None of us are righteous. David talks about it in the Psalms. All seek after their own gain, but they don't desire God.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So when you hear his voice elsewhere, you know what it is. So my wife, give an example. My wife doesn't have to say anything, but I know what she's saying to me. Does that make sense? Because I know her, because I'm with her all the time. I know God's voice because I'm with Him all the time. I read His Word. I pray to Him. Guide me in this way. Do this, do that. Forgive me of my sins.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I converse with God. I read His Word. I know what He sounds like, and that's what's important, and we have it at our fingertips. You have it on your phone in a Bible app. You have it on your Bible.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Does it align with His Word? And the only way you know if it aligns with His Word is if you read His Word. So what does the Bible say? You said pour a drink. Proverbs 31, I believe it is. It might be Proverbs chapter 30. The Proverbs woman is telling about it. And that woman was Solomon's mother, right? She's telling him what a good woman is like. And he says, Don't linger over wine, Solomon.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Don't desire it for those who are hurt, for those who are perishing, for those who are anguishing so that they can forget their anguish. The Bible tells us what wine is for. It also tells us on another end that wine gladdens the heart. and a feast gladdens the heart. So we see wine for two different things. So scripture tells us that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Paul says, don't be filled with, or don't be drunk with wine, because they would drink to worship Dionysus, but don't be drunk with wine, but be filled with the Holy Spirit. Why did Paul say that? Because what do we know wine does? What do we know alcohol or drink does? It alters our mind. It alters our state, which is why a lot of guys, you see it in the teams.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They're going away from drinking because it creates more issues than it helps because we're not in our right mind. And that's what Paul's saying. Don't be drunk with wine because you don't even know what you're doing. Be filled with the Holy Spirit and do the things of God. And it's not something that I can say, this is exactly what God sounds like.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But when you know Him in your life, you see Him in your life, and most of the time it lines up with His Word. So I could sit here and say, God told me this, this, and this, and generally speaking, that's not God talking. That's not God talking. If I'm telling you something that God's telling me to tell you to do in your life, God will speak directly to you.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But the only way you hear it is in his word. Otherwise, everything else is confusion. Let me, hold on. All right.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
God tells Cain in Genesis chapter four, I believe, and I don't mean to get into all this theology with you or whatever, but Genesis chapter four, he says, don't you know that if you do what is right, it'll be well with you? Because saying Cain is sad because his sacrifice wasn't accepted before God. And God says, why do you look down? God's talking to Cain like a granddaddy, right?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I would say all of the above, and I'll try to tie it into Scripture. I never would have run or been involved in any politics. The Lord put that in my life. He just kind of placed it in my life with a specific individual who said, hey, have you ever considered this? And I laughed and I said, no. That stayed in my heart.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The Lord kept bringing it to my mind, the issues that we had, that I had with law enforcement leadership. Kept bringing it to my mind. I read in Scripture how leaders, God places leaders. He stands them up and He tears them down. And this was something I thought, man, this is the largest sheriff's office in the state. There's no way. I have no way in to this. This is a big task.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And I keep reading scriptures on how he sets up things and he tears them down, sets up kingdoms and pulls them out. He can put whoever he wants into a position. As I'm reading this, I thought, well, I complain about law enforcement leadership all the time. Lord, is this what you have for me to do? So then I seek wise counsel. Scripture says that. It says that we should seek wise counsel.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My dad, some of the pastors at my church, guys, this is what I'm looking at. This is what I think. What do y'all think? Because where I'm running at, I will probably lose. It's a heavily Democrat county. It's an impossible task. There's an incumbent Democrat in there.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And it's going to take, according, I met with a previous sheriff who lost to the incumbent Democrat, the guy who was Republican for him. He said, you're going to need at least half a million dollars. I've got to come up with a half a million dollars to run a county race that I might lose. These are all things that we're seeing as to that would turn you off. Does that make sense? I can't do this.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So, yeah. as I wade through it, it stays on your heart. The Lord keeps it on your heart, whatever it is, you know, for each individual person. And for me, it was, I can do this, I need to do something about it, even with people saying you can't. And guess what? I still ran and I lost. And I told people that. God hasn't called me to win, He's called me to run. That's what I would tell people.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
He's called me to run for sheriff. If I win, great, but if I don't win, He's called me to run and I'm gonna do this the best I can. We raised 600,000, just under $600,000 for that campaign. That was one of the prayers and provisions I asked for. God, I don't know how to raise this campaign money. I asked that you would help us raise it. We raised like 560 something thousand dollars.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
more than any other sheriff's race in the state. And we raised it and campaigned well. People were like, holy cow, man, you're running a sheriff's race? This is like a Senate race. It was just, I can't explain the provision of the Lord. So that's how I see Him providing, and I know, okay, I'm responding to the appropriate call. Oftentimes, if the provision stops,
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, maybe God's not calling you to do it, right? It's the same thing he told the disciples. So you're being, you...
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Oh, 100%.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's why Proverbs says that a path is before a man and the Lord directs his steps, right? It's each step. Jesus says in his prayer, he says, give us this day our daily bread. He doesn't say give us our weekly, monthly, or yearly bread, right? We look at God in James chapter four, I believe it is.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It says, don't say we're gonna go to this city and do trading and that, and we're gonna make all this money and do it. He says, because you do that in your own arrogance. Say, if the Lord wills it, this is what we'll do. So it's always about... God, this is what we need. He provides here. Okay, God, this is what we need for the next step.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Like our granddad would talk to us. He says, don't you know if you do what's right, it'll be well with you. But if you don't, sin is lying in wait at your door and its desire is for you. It actually describes sin like a crouching lion hiding in the bushes, ready to reach out and grab you. But you should rule over it. HE HAD THE ABILITY TO RULE OVER IT AT THAT TIME BECAUSE THEY WERE STILL WITH GOD.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And as long as the provision's there and you can keep stepping, that's the Lord directing your steps. But at any point in time, if those steps stop, it doesn't mean that it's over. There might be some turmoil and some friction, but it means that we have to sit back and look, okay, God, is this... Is this what you actually have? And then once you reassess it, God will give you that answer.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And it's different for each person. God came to Saul, who became Paul in the New Testament, in a blinding light. And Paul said, who are you, Lord? He says, I'm Jesus, the one you're persecuting. Why do you kick against the goads? Saul was killing Christians. He changed his name to Paul. And he goes and he talks, goes and spreads the gospel to the Gentiles. God came to...
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Who was it that came in as a whisper after the storm? I believe it was Elijah that he came to, or it might have been Elisha. Just a small, calm whisper after the storm. He said, I saw the tornado, I saw the whirlwind, I saw all this, and you weren't in it, but you were in the whisper after the storm. It's the call, the word from God is different for each individual.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So for Sean Ryan, it's gonna look different than it looks for Jared. But you're going to know it. And one thing I always have told my wife, she goes, well, Jared, you say you know. How do you know that this is the voice of God? You know it. The question that we have in our heart most of the time is, are we disobedient to the call or are we obedient to the call?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because most of the time, the call is not something that we really want to do. That's the hard part. Now, you just mentioned, hey, get a new car. These are just the natural things in this life.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Well, they could be the things of vanity, but it's not that having a new car is bad. I don't think God cares whether you have a new car or not. Are you going to glorify Him in that new car? And one thing that we know, it says this in, it might be Ecclesiastes, but it says, Lord, don't give me so much that I forget who you are.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
and profane your name and don't give me so little that I have to steal to provide for myself and my family and profane your name. Give me what I need right now. Most of the time when we have that sexy car, the vanity things, we forget God. We don't rely on him because we rely on these things that we have.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
god bless you brother well thank you man i appreciate it yeah thanks for having me it's an honor to be here man i love to see what you got going and your growth over the last few years i mean this is this is huge i don't think anybody knows it because not a lot of people see it but From showing up here till now, I mean, it is, you've got a process, bro. I mean, you've got it worked out.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that's almost a curse because it removes you from looking to the one who provided the car as opposed to looking to the car. It talks about that in Isaiah. It says that the man, he puts wood in a fire to burn the fire, cooks meal over it, and then he takes another piece of wood and he carves an image out of it and he worships it and says, you're my God. That's what he's talking about.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? GOD GIVES THE ABILITY, AND THAT FAITH IN GOD GIVES THE ABILITY TO RULE OVER IT. AND THAT'S INTERESTING FOR US TO SEE IS THAT SIN'S DESIRE IS FOR US. WELL, GUESS WHAT? WE'RE BORN INTO IT, SO IT'S GOING TO CATCH US, JUST LIKE IT DID ADAM. SO IT DOESN'T MATTER HOW OLD YOU ARE. YOU WERE BORN INTO SIN. AND IN ORDER TO BE OUT OF SIN, YOU HAVE TO ACCEPT THE PERSON OF JESUS CHRIST.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I don't think you do. You don't differentiate because when you, it's better to give than to receive. So let's say it is a scam. That's between them and God. not between you and God. If God called me to do this for a person, if I felt urged or pulled or in my riches and wealth, I give to somebody and I get scammed out of it, that sucks. And I want to look at that and maybe I'm wiser the next time.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Again, I think I said it earlier, Proverbs 19, 2, zeal without knowledge because you missed the mark. I say, man, I missed the mark on this one, but now I've got a little bit of knowledge on what to look for. Um, And then the next time, I don't miss it. But was I obedient to God? You see, the outcome of the thing is not so much the important thing. That is on God.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's the heart getting to the outcome that's the process. So going back to what you said earlier, so it's really just every step of the way, you're looking to say, God, is this it? God, is this it? That's it. You're always open-handed, asking God, God, am I doing what I'm supposed to be doing? And as long as He opens the doors, as long as He's guiding you through it, you will hear His voice.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The one caveat to that is you've got to be in His Word. You've got to be spending time with Him. The only example that I can use, you know your wife better than anybody, right? You and your wife know each other very well. And you kind of know what she wants without her saying what she wants a lot of times. And that only gets better with time, right?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Look at my parents, been married 50 years, and it's hilarious seeing them because they literally— They know each other that well. It's unbelievable to see. Me and my wife, 16 years, I know what she wants without her having to say it a lot of times. And I don't always give it to her, right? And then sometimes she'll ask for things even though she doesn't want to ask for things.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'm like, hey, help me out. Tell me what you need. It's that same thing with God, but you have to be in tune with God like you are with your wife. And the only way you can be is to read His Word and pray to Him about His Word. And I can't even describe it. He will guide you. So if I'm saying, so the run for sheriff, he put some people in my life that spoke it into existence. I sought...
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Good counsel, like when I say spoken into existence, that's a bad, I shouldn't use that, that's bad phraseology. They just said, hey, have you considered this? We could use you here. No, I haven't, but I started considering it and praying about it. The Lord opened one door, go to this threshold and say, hey, I'm looking at running for sheriff. What do y'all think? These guys are praying.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And it just... kept steamrolling to the point that, wow, we've got a campaign for sheriff. Wow, we got a heck of a team. Wow, we're gonna win this thing. I mean, that's what it was. And I lost by two points to the incumbent Democrat on election day. And that was hard. Okay, God, what was all this for? My wife was asking, what was all this for?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And two months later, all the people that supported the campaign started supporting Covenant Rescue Group, the nonprofit, which is what brought me on full-time with Covenant Rescue Group. And so now I know what that was for because it was a local grassroots effort. It wasn't tied to PACs or certain political things.
Shawn Ryan Show
#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I did really well in the Republican Party because I was running as a Republican candidate and made a lot of connections there.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
that actually put Covenant Rescue Group on the map as opposed to being a small hand-to-mouth organization, put us on the map to the point that they had to bring me and a handful of other guys in full-time to be able to effectively use the funds for the work it was being presented for. And so the aim I had was Sheriff, but that's not the aim God had.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
One caveat to that is people will say, well, what about the people that didn't know Jesus before Jesus came?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
God had to put Covenant Rescue Group on the line. God might have it for something else. I don't know. He might have that unsuccessful campaign for something else. I was just the conduit through which that was used to grow Covenant Rescue Group. And so that's, you always see the culmination. And it's, I wouldn't get too wrapped around the axle about simple things. You know, should I buy this car?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Should we buy this house?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Yeah, if God's giving you the funds, but even people out there will say that. Me and my wife, we pray about everything. There's nothing wrong with praying about everything. But if you got the money, get it. There's nothing wrong with it.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But if it starts to remove your heart from the God you worship, if you start to worship it like the guy worships the idol, the piece of wood that he cut into an idol, that's where you have to say, no, I don't need this anymore. And that's kind of the purpose behind it. That's why the scripture is saying, so when you hear the call of God, it's not always a loud voice. To some people it is.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It's not always a dream. To some people it is. It's not always the small, calm voice at the back end of the storm, but to some people it is. It just depends on how God's calling you. It depends on what you need. But the only way you know it's His voice is if you're in His Word. You've got to stay in the Word of God.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Me and my wife started it in 2018. So I was doing the wildlife work at the time, transitioning to the tactical work with TSI, you know, when I had some contracts with the government coming in. And we were doing pretty good. And so we would take our— you know, whatever profit we had at the end of the year and use it to go, like, support OUR.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
I'd go do operations with Operation Underground Railroad guys, went to Haiti with them some. Far-reaching ministries, did some stuff with them in... South Sudan. And so, I mean, we're just trying to support wherever we could. Another organization that's no longer around called Orphan Secure started doing some stuff for them and just volunteering time, you know, and trying to pay for things.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then they would pay for some stuff. Everything was just kind of hodgepodge together. Just felt the call to human trafficking because I'd kind of seen it in law enforcement a little bit, got involved there. What was your first experience with human trafficking?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
My first, I would say probably real human trafficking, Haiti with Operation Underground Railroad was my first real experience with human trafficking. I saw it really what we target more as a law enforcement officer running domestics where you see some of the stuff people live in or certain warrants where you see some of the areas people live in and you see these kids.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
living in unbelievable squalor, but their parents, drug addicts or whatever, would sell their kids. They would, you know, physically and sexually abuse their kids. They would, I mean, it's terrible. So, I mean, that is human trafficking by law, but in my mind, I didn't know that to be human trafficking until now, understanding what it actually is.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But they would sell their kids to their buddy for sex for $200. That's the type of people we're talking about. And you see that in law enforcement. Cops that are listening to this, they will tell you, yeah, they see it all the time, all over the nation. How common is this? Oh, it's super common. Wherever you go, it's super common. Kids selling themselves, people selling themselves.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And a lot of it's drug and alcohol related. I mean, we know that. We see that being an issue. But yeah, it's very common. It's very common. So that's where I really started seeing it. I had a heart for it. And I would say Operation Underground Railroad in Haiti is where I first saw like, holy crap, this is legit. These girls are being held against their will. They're holding their passports.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They're from Dominican Republic. And I did some work with them. So People were just giving us money. Like people that, you know, when I'm supporting my campaign later, they're like, hey, you're doing good work. And they would, you know, from church or, you know, that I knew, they're writing us like $5,000 and $10,000 checks. And so you were sitting with me and my wife, like took it to my CPA.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
What do we do with this money? I mean, do I give them an invoice from the shooting institute? Or how does this work? He's like, no, you need to start a family foundation, a nonprofit or something. So that's where we looked at a couple different routes. We started the nonprofit, Covenant Rescue Group, got our 501c3 status in 2019. And we're off to the races, primarily looking at overseas stuff.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And then when COVID-
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Because it's easy to find there because... Prostitution, remember when I said that all prostitution is not human trafficking, but human trafficking is found in prostitution? So they're able to go to places, and a lot of times you get symbolism without substance. You get, hey, we're fighting human trafficking here, and really it's prostitution. You see that here, law enforcement agencies do that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Hey, human trafficking ring, 72 human traffickers rolled up. That's a prostitution sting. And it's not human trafficking as we know it. And we kind of talked about that a little bit earlier, kind of some of the issues that exist there. When you go overseas, you have more leeway to work than you do here stateside because most of what organizations do stateside is illegal.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The vigilante stuff, all that is illegal. So that's why you see that, and there's a lot of awareness stuff that people raise a lot of awareness about it. I think a lot of people are aware about it. We just don't—nobody knows exactly what it is. Do you have people being strong-armed? Yes. Do you have kids being stolen off the streets? Yes.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
The immigrant situation really adds more to that, the illegal immigrant situation. situation puts more people at risk for that. But other than that, you're not at risk of your kids being snatched and thrown into a human trafficking circle and never being found again. It does happen, but it's unbelievably rare. But the statistic, and these are from the DOJ, the American Psychiatric Association.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
They kind of coalesce and have a few statistics. I'll see if Stephen can send them over to you so you have them. But The amount of kids, I'm going to dial it in here to kids specifically. The amount of kids, if I remember right, it's 37% of children who are abused, sexually abused, or anything like that. It is from children. Somebody who is known. Close to them. Yeah, yeah. They know that person.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
No, no, no. 37% is family. 37% is family. 50% is somebody who knows them. A coach, a teacher, anything like that. 37% is a family member. So an uncle, a cousin, a father, a mother, whoever. And then that other... 10 or 12%, 13%, whatever's left, is just a random person, okay? I'll send you the actual statistics. I'm probably a little bit off on my numbers there. I'm just going off of memory.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
But that is very interesting because when it's, family-based or when it's a person of trust, somebody who knows the kid, it looks different. It's reported differently. Maybe it's never reported. How many of these things are never reported? And then you see that lead into the prostitution, the pornography, all of that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
It is. And that's what we've learned. And that percentage is higher. And then what that drives people toward and what that does to them for the rest of their life. You know, you're looking at something that I mean, how do you reset from that? My dad, again, the little girl that we found, her dad was 18 months old. Her dad's having sex with her.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
She's not old enough to necessarily know, but she knows. I mean, there's something that happens there for the rest of that person's life. And can they work through it and deal with it? Yeah, but it is more common than not. And I don't know that... I don't know that we're seeing any more. We're seeing it more now than probably it used to be seen, but I think it's probably the same amount, right?
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
You know, it's the same problem, different people. But looking at the kids, it is people that know them. So that looks different. So I would say here stateside, we really didn't start getting into that. We focused on overseas initially, like everybody does, because it's easy. It's easy. And when COVID happened, you're talking about the call of the Lord. We as an organization, I set the board down.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
So we're not going to be able to go overseas like we were because of COVID. Like literally shut that down, like just close the doors on it. However, I'm still law enforcement. We're tied to law enforcement. Me and Mike and some of the team, we're gonna go out and see if we can't start doing some operations with local law enforcement agencies.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And that was a hard swing because there's a massive arrogance within law enforcement. They don't wanna do that. So how we hooked it, we offered free tactical training on the front end, free pistol training, the nonprofit covered through TSI, my company. Pistol, CQB, whatever it is, we'll give you one day of free tactical training, but here's a trade-off.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
We've got to be able to do our sex trafficking operations program training with y'all and set up an op and make y'all run it. And that's how we started doing that. So that was the Lord. How hard was that to sell? Not hard with the tactical training. And then it was about a year worth of that.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
Their jurisdiction. Yep, their jurisdiction. We do the child exploitation training with them, and we're not making arrests or prosecutions. We bring the prosecutor's office in. We say, guys, this is how you set up these types of ops. We help them set up that op, and they run that op with our oversight. It's like a ground branch type of model where you got... It's what you were doing at BS...
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
That's exactly it. VSO operations. Combat advisor. That's exactly right. And so that's what we do. That's what we still do.
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#173 Jared Hudson - The War Against Evil: A Navy SEAL’s Fight to Save Children in America
And so one of the agencies we first started with, we made— 11 arrests with them initially when we were there. No, no, no, that's not true. We made 19 arrests with this agency initially when we were there. They're making it over two nights of operations. We gave them the tactical training and all that. And they have done, I want to say, six operations on their own now. Maybe it's four.