Janet Caperna
Appearances
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Hi, thanks for having me.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I'm scared a little bit.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I've gotten sent, I've had a couple fans recently, I think in like the last week, be like, they said there's a chair welcome for you if you disagree, you know, on whatever they're saying. So you need to go and set the record straight. And I was like, all right.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
So I do the thing, you know, I'll go to the podcast transcripts, search my name. I'm like, all right, I got to see what's going on here. So I've seen a little bit, but nothing wildly offensive. I think it's fair that, you know, anything you guys have said that has been critical of me, I think is fair as a viewer watching. Okay.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I do think that there are a lot of misconceptions and things, and I feel like this was the right environment to talk about those. Because I really feel like you guys, like I listened to your podcast with Michelle, I felt like you guys did a really beautiful job of kind of getting to the bottom of a lot of misconceptions she had.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And yeah, I'm excited to have the platform, sharing your platform with me to talk about those things.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yeah, I think I think the hard thing with Jesse and Michelle was we didn't see kind of everything that was happening in their marriage while they were still married. We saw the very end and like the downfall of it. But, you know, for years before that, we kind of saw Jesse being MIA and not being the best husband. So then all of a sudden when it was like, well, it's all Michelle's fault.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
You know, the people who know them best were like, it's not like this. You know, this guy has not been great for a very long time. And we're just seeing the end where maybe she's made some mistakes, but we're not seeing the whole picture.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I completely agree. And I will say, like, Michelle found out that her mom, her mom was going through health issues, but she didn't have a diagnosis. She found out her mom had cancer right before we filmed season one. So she was also, you know, coming to terms with that news. while having a camera on her face for the first time.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And then right before we started filming season two, she really found out that it was like a month's left situation. And I adore Michelle. She's one of my closest friends. And watching her do everything that she's done, like she is one of the strongest people I've ever met in my entire life.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I I don't know if I would have been able to show up and share my life and go through the stuff she did with Jesse while also dealing with my mom sick at home and also being like the best mom in the entire world she could be. So watching her navigate the last two years through all of that, like I I just I love her so much and I really felt for her.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think he knows that it was just a kiss, but I think he has enjoyed other people putting it out that it's something more. And, you know, Michelle and I had lunch right before we filmed the reunion and And I sort of said, all right, tell me the whole story because I've always heard bits and pieces of things.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And not that I condone cheating at all. Like, I think it's horrible. But I think that the narrative that has been put out there that she like had a boyfriend for a year or a year ago or had a boyfriend at all and all of these things that were being said, I'm like, that's not the truth. The truth is one percent of like the wrath that she's getting.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
You know, if she really was having a full on relationship or affair, then maybe she would deserve some of the, you know, backlash she was getting from it. But I'm like, you kissed somebody after you told your husband you wanted to separate and like you were kind of checked out of your marriage and things still weren't changing. That to me is like a one time mistake and a forgivable offense.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
It's not like this. She's been having these boyfriends for so long and this whole thing that everybody's been saying about her. I'm like, the truth is very mild compared to what everybody's saying.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think when she asked for a separation, then he begged her to stay and was like, please give me another chance. I will start showing up for our family, showing up for you as a husband. Give me, like, one more chance. And she, you know, as a woman who has a child with this man, wants to keep her family together, was like, okay.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
That's the least I can do. Let's like meet with this life coach. I'll give it some more time. I don't want to just she didn't want to get divorced. She didn't want this to be where she ended up. Like she wanted a happy family, happy husband, happy child, all that.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
So I think, you know, she gave him another chance because it felt like the right thing to do, even though maybe her heart wasn't in it anymore.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yeah.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I always, whenever anybody tells me they're going to a life coach, I'm like, licensed therapist. They're licensed for a reason. Or just like someone who's like not your bro. Yeah. Scream into the pillow, bro. Yeah. The scream into the pillows.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think I would say like the biggest misconception I feel like I have that you guys have been critical of is the fan thing. And I feel like this has been something that's kind of like run wild that, you know, I've always admitted that I was a Bravo fan before I met Sheena. And it was more like I liked Andy and Watch What Happens Live and a lot of the Housewives.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I absolutely had seen Vanderpump Rules before. I'm a millennial from Ohio. I'm their target demographic. Of course, I've seen Vanderpump Rules. But I think I've always admitted that for years. We talked about how we met. I went up to her and I was like, you're Sheena from Vanderpump. Let's take a picture. But we ended up spending the entire day talking.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
We talked about what it's like getting divorced in your 20s, which both of us had done. Starting over, all of that. And I think fans and other people have encouraged fans to be like, Janet stalked Sheena. She sought out a place in reality TV. She was like evil, conniving, trying to maliciously work her way into fame.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And that's something I can't own that I you know, that is annoying to see about myself because it's not true. I think that there's a lot of people, you know, I've always like, yeah, I've been a fan for years. That's how Sheena and I met. Sure, it's like odd, I guess, to start a friendship as a fan and somebody who's on reality TV. But I never felt embarrassed to be a Bravo fan.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And that's the truth of how we met. So there are a lot of people like in our friend group who will be like, oh, Vanderpump Rules? I had no idea what that was. I just made friends with these people completely organically. And I had no idea that they're famous. And it's like... That weirds me out. I'm like, what do you I know that you saw it. You're lying. But like, why?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like, just admit that you saw the wildly popular show that these people were on. You thought it was cool. And yeah, that you ended up having a real friendship with them. So I hate that people make it like a malicious thing. But that's, you know, and I hate that, you know, I feel like some of my friends have leaned into that and encouraged that narrative. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Right. Honestly, Michelle's the only one. She was the only one before season one. I was like, have you seen reality TV? And she's like, I saw one episode of the recent Kardashians. I'm like the self-produced recent Kardashians. And she's like, yeah. And I remember right before we started filming season one, Michelle goes, what's the drama even going to be? And I was like, oh boy.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I was like, oh, no. So Michelle might be the only one who truly never really saw reality TV or anything before being a part of it.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I actually don't know, truthfully, if they saw the show before. I think Danny met Jax and Brittany through Teddy Mellencamp. So it was like they were aware when they met them that they were on a show. They made friends with them. Knowing that, I don't think that they had like weird ulterior motives to like get on TV using people. I don't think anybody did that.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And, you know, it's interesting, like people are like, Janet, use Gina. Gina and I have been friends for almost nine years now. Like, it's also like if I was slowly working my way, like nine years is kind of a long play. Yeah. It's kind of a long time to be.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I'm like in that time, like no shame to anybody else who was seeking a spot on reality TV, but like I've never applied or auditioned or went out of my way to like try to get on any show. You know, Brittany came to us a few years ago and was like, we're pitching this. Can we give producers your name? At first, Jason and I were like, Jason's like, I can't be a lawyer and on reality TV.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
That makes sense. After we talked to, you know, his partners at his law firm and producers, we were like, this actually could be a good opportunity for us. I was a personal assistant before this working like 60 hours a week, constantly managing somebody else's schedule. And right when it kind of all came together, like I had just quit a job.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I was like, oh, like with a celebrity, I was like, I'm never, this is not the right fit for me. I'd quit, found out I was pregnant like two weeks later. And I was like, oh shit, I'm going to have to like
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
immediately start interviewing before i'm showing and then britney you know producers and britney were like hey we're greenlit like they want us to do this and that was kind of the moment where jason i had to decide like which path do we want to take so i want to immediately start interviewing and try to get another assistant job before i'm showing or do we want to like take this weird leap of faith see what this happened like what happens with this and if it's you know
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
We were like, we'll do it for a year and see what happens. And here we are now.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think even knowing, you know, being a reality TV fan, watching Sheena, Ariana, my friends, Katie, everybody do this for years and years. I maybe went in season one a little cocky thinking like, I know how this all works. In that, like, you have to share. You have to give your opinion. You have to do the stuff.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think as much as you can almost watch everybody else do it, there's nothing that can really prepare you for having it be your life, your group of friends, real stuff happening that you have to address in the moment. And I definitely did not... go in hoping I would be the villain. That was something that surprised me.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I've always maybe said things I shouldn't say, gossiped a little bit more than I should. That is something I would consider maybe a flaw of mine or something that has gotten me in trouble with friends in the past. But it definitely wasn't. I wasn't like, oh, I want to be the villain because that, whatever.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I went in and was like, I'm going to be myself and try to be as authentic as possible because I feel like the people I've watched do this that are authentic to themselves and don't hold back are the ones that come off the best. If you try to write your own story, it's very clear to me. So no, my goal is not to be the villain. I would have loved to be liked. That would have been nice.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
But I think, yeah, definitely some of the things that I do and say rub people the wrong way. And I get that. What would be
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I feel like in season one, I wish I would have spoken up more and explained more about the like racist Republican thing. Cause I still feel like that's really misunderstood.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Um, it's like such a wild, long story, but Michelle and I, right before season one started filming, it was actually the day she found out her mom was sick. We had dinner and we ended up talking about a bunch of political stuff that was coming up. Michelle had one comment that like rubbed me the wrong way. And I mentioned it to Jasmine again. This is like, I probably shouldn't have done that.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like mentioned it to Jasmine and she Jasmine ran with it to Zach, who ran with it to Kristen. And by the time it ended that telephone, it had changed from like, I'm worried she might support this bill that's not great for the gay community to like a racist Republican. I'm like, I didn't use any of those words that came like through Zach and Kristen.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And that like, I wish I would have explained that more in season one. I also wish I wouldn't have been on such a high horse about my pregnancy, maybe season one. Like, you know, when you're pregnant for the first time, I was like, I am putting a force field around myself. Like I'm not, I don't want to be stressed at all.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Anybody who was giving me stress, I'm like, I'm pregnant, like leave me alone. And I watch it back and I'm like, Oh God. Like, but at the end of the day, I also had a healthy child, you know? So I'm like, it doesn't, you know, I don't care at the end of the day. I'd rather stand up for myself and put this bubble around me and end up with a healthy child. So yeah. I don't know.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I'm sure there's other regrets that I have, but those are the ones that stand out the most to me.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
No, no. You're on quite the roll.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yes and no. I think that it's sort of like bullet points, but there's always more to the story. There's always stuff, you know, I'm married to a lawyer and we have very like logical, debatey conversations often. Where we're like, you know, we see things that are shown. We're like, but they didn't show this or this or this. Or like, there's more to that story.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And that with this context, it makes more sense why I said this or why I did this. But, you know, I think it's one of those things with reality TV. It's a 45 minute episode. And with as many people as we have, you can't include every bit of every backstory. So there are definitely pieces. There's stuff that I see myself where I'm like, that is me. Good, bad, ugly.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And then there's stuff where I'm like, Oh, if people knew kind of the whole long version of the story, they might see it differently. Right.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
It was a couple of things. One, you know, I had a very long conversation with I wasn't there Halloween night when Danny put his hands on Jasmine, Melissa and the other people that night. I know of like a few others, a few other friends that don't have anything to do with the show that also had that experience. And after Halloween, I had I wasn't there. I was like eight months pregnant at home.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Jason and I were at home. But like the day after Brittany called me, Jasmine called me, we had pretty long, extensive conversations about what had happened. And Jasmine was really shook and was really reasonably, I think, bothered by what had happened along with the other people that were involved.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And for me, when he came in the pantry, I was just immediately, I think, I don't know if it's just like being a woman, but like when a man comes into the room and like a small area and closes the door, I was like, oh, like what? It just was this weird like, oh, I'm not super comfortable, but paired also with like, I know that you put your hands on our friends when you were drinking.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like here you are drinking and I'm in like a closed, confined space with you. It just made me feel not great. And I was like, if you're hiding something, wait five minutes for me to get my Easy Mac and get out of here or like 30 seconds even. Like I just was like, if you're hiding whatever you're hiding from, if it's hiding from cameras, if it's hiding from Nia. I don't want to know about this.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I felt like there had been a couple of times where things that happened with Danny, I had told Nia privately, but I'm having to break news to her like, hey, your husband kept this thing a secret. I just I don't want to have secrets with somebody's husband. And it just, you know, I also didn't want to blow this pantry thing up like to be maybe even as big as it was.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
It just was a moment where I was like, oh, this is a little uncomfortable. Yeah.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Um, you know, I haven't watched it, but I'm like, I'm still triggered. I guess. I mean, I think it was the accountability thing. I think is also something that all of us that kind of like struck a chord in Santa Barbara, because once you get to a point where if you're drinking so much that you're putting your hands on people and making them uncomfortable, um, You can say, I'm sorry, all you want.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And that's great. And I think at first, like Danny was saying all the right things and apologizing very sincerely. It seemed, you know, Jasmine sent me the text that he sent her. I think it was a couple of things. I think all of us assumed, you know, if you black out from drinking and you wake up and you're told you grabbed your friend's butts and made these inappropriate sexual comments to them.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
You also want to see not just a written apology, but change in actions and behavior afterwards. And I think in Santa Barbara, we're like, here he is under a roof with all the same people still getting blacked out drunk. And I think he should have been a little bit more aware that that was going to make people uncomfortable.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think so.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think it wasn't necessarily just that he was asleep. I think it was when we're like, hey, where's Danny? What's going on? It was the he's napping, he's this. And we kind of seen that before where it's like, you know, we're all at dinner and Danny seems to start
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
getting drunk and Nia's like our babysitter called we have to get out and it was she had never really just been able to say like Danny's had a little bit too much to drink and is annoying me so we're gonna go home it was kind of constantly always other excuses so in Santa Barbara we're like it's kind of clear what's happened here and instead of just being able to say hey he drank too much and he's passed out and like let's all leave him there it was like
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
He's worked so hard. And I understand wanting to keep positive, but it's also like at some point, we're just never going to acknowledge that something's happening here.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think it's a couple of things. One, everybody else seems to be pretty honest about it. Like if we all get drunk, I'm not seeing people say like, I wasn't drunk. I didn't drink that much last night. And also Danny put his hands on people.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think it changes, you know, when you grab someone's butt and make sexual comments like you're drinking now is worrisome and giving people a little bit of anxiety. So I think, you know, if I think if Jax, Jason, Jesse, anybody else did something like that, we would have the same concern.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yeah, I think it was more like when Jason came in, I think cameras came in too. When I watched that, I'm like, he's not so much yelling at like Jason to get out. He was like, I'm done everybody out. Yeah. That's kind of what I got.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
But also like, you know, right before we went wine tasting, you know, Jesse had been up all day, I guess, since like six in the morning drinking and admitted like, oh, I've polished off like three bottles of Prosecco before we got it to the wine tasting. So it's like, what am I supposed to be like? You're drunk. He's like, he's like, I'm drunk, everybody. I drank.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
So it's kind of hard when somebody's Some people are seemingly hiding things and trying to paint a pretty picture. And the rest of the crew is just like, yep, we're drunk. There is a difference. And I think it's also just once you put your hands on people. For me, that would have been a rock bottom moment.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think that was the worst of it. That one night was definitely like, I haven't heard of him grabbing somebody's butt and making sexual comments like that. I think that was definitely the worst night of it. But there have been other nights where he has been drunk and acting inappropriately in a way that I wouldn't want my husband acting, you know, or anybody who's married acting.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I don't want to gloss over any of that. And I think that, you know, in real time as everything was happening, I mean, I've been extremely critical of Jax and made it very clear, like, Brittany's my girl. What she has been through is not okay. It's absolute hell. And I will say, like, you know, I talk to Brittany every single day. I don't really have a friendship with Jax right now.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
The thing with Jax is they, and I guess Jesse and Michelle too, is like, My goal for all of them is to be able to be healthy co-parents eventually. The things Jesse and Jax have both done are disgusting, horrible. I have no problem saying that. That's the truth. But I hope at the end of the day, I want to see all of them improve. I don't want to just be like, you know what? Jax is a shitty person.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Let's all write him off and treat him as if he's dead and hope he just goes away. That's not what is best for Brittany. That's not what's best for their child, Cruz. What's best is him staying sober. Every like the two times I've seen Jax in the last, I don't know, couple months, like one time he came over and had a heart to heart with Jason.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I, you know, I was like, I'm going to Brittany's if you're in my home, like I'm not going to stick around. But I told him you need to be an AA. You need to be in therapy with a licensed therapist. You need to work on your anger or you're going to lose. You've already lost it all, but you're not going to get anything back unless you start working on this stuff.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
To be honest, I don't know. I think that's up more for Brittany to decide. I think that... I really think she was in love with this man for a long time and did believe, like, he would get better, he would change for her. Like, I think that's, like, something that happens in a lot of relationships where you're like, ignore the red flags and just...
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Hope that you're the one that can change this, you know, mess of a man. I think, yeah, when it comes to Cruz, Britney's put a ton of distance there. There has been weeks, maybe months even, or a month where Jax didn't get to see Cruz because of his behavior. And I think it's, you know, just a process of her. And maybe she will get to a point where she's like, I've had enough.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
If you're not going to change, you're not going to see our child. But I think that's her decision. And I've always been supportive if she needs breaks from him. I'm like, yeah, if he's treating you like this. You keep Cruz where he's safe with you. And I think, you know, it just depends. It's up to her. I have a hard time saying like, you know what?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yeah, Jack should never be allowed to see his kid again. Like, that's not for me to say. And I check in with Brittany and wherever she's at, like with him at that moment, I try to be supportive of that.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
You're going to see a lot of conversations. I don't know if it'll satisfy the like, I feel like a lot of people when I get it want to see like Jax really held to the flame. I think it's a tough situation. Like, you know, right when he came out of rehab, all of us are like, all right, well, let's see like if this changed this man at all, if it helped.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
So, you know, the second he gets out, I don't think it's the best time to be like coming down on him really hard. It was kind of like a test for us to see, like, did this therapy and rehab help him at all?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
rehab allows someone to rage text and stalk their partner I don't know via security cameras I mean that's we had the same questions you know all summer while he was in there it was like how does he even I was like block him you know like I don't understand how do we know he wasn't just at like a beach in Mexico you know it's like well when Jason walked in when he dropped him off he made sure to go in and like
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
kind of give a brief... Like, just like, hey, in case he's trying to charm you guys in here, I want to let you know, like, he's struggling with this, this, and this, and these are the reasons he's here. So we wanted to make sure that, you know, the therapists and everybody there were aware of what he had done. And... I think he really did stay at the facility.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Brittany did like a check in, you know, there with him and brought Cruz to see him once. So I think he was there, but it definitely seemed really lenient from what I understand rehab and treatment facilities should be. So I had the same, you know, all of us had the same worry. We're like, why does he have his phone?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I don't think it's necessarily a benefit of the doubt. I think that they have seen, Jason's particular has seen a different side of Jax. Like when we all got really close, it was like over the pandemic, we were neighbors and we saw Jax and Brittany. It was sort of like the last time they were happy.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And we saw them like at home with their son, like in a very different light, I think, than you saw Jax on Vanderpump Rules. So I think that that's where
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Jason's comment about that is coming from he's like I've seen you be a good I've seen you be a good dad I've seen you at home doing the right things I know you can get there but what we're seeing now is you not doing any of those things and you need to work on yourself Jason's also I think one of the only people that Jax really listens to you know and it's this weird thing that somehow has worked where like I talk to Brittany and I'm there for her every single day whatever is going on
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Jax sometimes will tell Jason, like, I've been so good for like the last three weeks. Everything's been perfect. And all of a sudden, Brittany's like icing me out again. And Jason will be like, you know, then Jason and I come together in bed and he's like, what's going on with them? And I'm like, well, he did this and this two days ago. So that's why she's upset.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And then Jason can be like, Jax, you haven't been good for three weeks. You know, you just did this two days ago to Brittany and talks it out with him. What happened? Like, why would you do that? What led you there? You need to work on your anger. And Jax does listen to Jason.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I know Brittany really appreciates their relationship because it kind of is the only time that he stays on good behavior is when he has these like real talks with Jason.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Jason and I both, when we're at home, don't have our rings on. Like it's just, yeah, we have like ring holders like next to our bed at his office. Like I have one next to the couch and we just truly like don't wear our rings at home. When we go out, it's like we put our rings on. But like when he goes to the gym, when he's out and about, he doesn't wear his ring. That's never bothered me.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Jason's like the most trustworthy, good guy. Yeah, he doesn't strike. I really believe that he is extremely trustworthy and has great character. So I'm like, a ring is not some sort of force field that like protects you from ever doing anything wrong. What protects my husband from not cheating on me is the fact that he just is not a cheater. Okay.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Kristen and I are not in the best place still, but that being said, like she's nine months pregnant. I think right now do like very soon. I don't like, I remember when I was that pregnant, like the littlest thing is just like can ruin your day or, you know, set something off.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I right now, like truly when I think of her, I'm trying to send like all of the positive thoughts and energy her way, because at the end of the day, Kristen, I had a very real friendship for a very long time. And I,
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
while we might not be great right now i am so happy for her she is going to be the best mom i'm so happy that she has luke and that she's like in this place in her life so while we might not be in the best place i really do like i'm happy for her and i want her to have like the most healthy end of her pregnancy birth like i don't want to throw any stress her way right do you hope that your friendship will get back to where it was
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I don't know if it'll ever get back to where it was. Like we were friends that talked like hours on the phone every day. We saw each other all the time, like knew everything that we were, you know, I knew where she was a 24 seven. She knew where I was 24 seven. Like we were very, very close.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I don't know if it'll ever get back to that, but my goal this past summer and, you know, in recent times has been, I really want to get to a place where we can have fun together and like at least be able to be in the same room and not have like animosity and just be able to like Hey, we might not be best friends ever again, but can we just like have a good time at Dave and Buster's?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And like I was like the more like happy moments that I can make with her. I was like that was my goal this summer. Like I was like nobody's going to like fight in Dave and Buster's until like Jesse and Michelle suddenly are like having a whole meltdown there. But I'm like Chris and I can have like a fun time at Dave and Buster's and then we can go to Santa Barbara and have a couple good times.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like we make a couple happy memories. We'll at least get on that track. You know, blurting out this ring rumor kind of threw that all off for me. I was like, OK, I was really hoping we would be able to have like a peaceful, fun summer. And when she blurted that out, like my initial response was like, I looked at Jason. I was like this, like I could just tell on his face.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I'm like, all right, I have nothing to worry about. He's not reacting with any sort of like guilt or anything. I'm like, all right, this is fine. But later I kind of like sat with it and I'm like, wow.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
But even though I'm not worried about what my husband's doing, this sucks that like this person that I'm trying to create happy memories with and move forward with is coming for my husband in marriage.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
That was kind of my goal. I mean, the beginning of this summer, we sat down and have a conversation where I apologized to her. I'm like, hey, I roped you in with the Zach stuff. I should have said the stuff about him, but I shouldn't have included you in that. I wanted to. I was like, that was wrong of me. I'm sorry. I apologized for calling her crazy. That was not something I should have done.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I think that's, you know, I sat across from her and said, I'm sorry for these things. And I said, are you sorry for anything that's happened? And she said, no. Still after that, I was like, I still let's let it go. Who cares at this point? Let's try to have like a fun summer a little bit. So I still, even though I didn't get an apology, apologize to her.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I'm still like, all right, come to my birthday party. Let's have fun. Let's try to move forward together. Then this ring thing came up. So it just felt like like I kind of felt like an idiot. I'm like, why am I trying so much with this person? I'm apologizing, not getting any apology and inviting and including her trying to make happy memories.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And she's taking all that and then being like, but your husband, it's like, all right, well, I'm kind of an idiot if I keep trying at this friendship when you're making it clear you want nothing to do with me.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Zach and I have finally gotten to a place, I think, of a little bit of peace. I would like to move forward with him, too. The things that happened between us were really difficult to work through, but I think the reunion was good for us. And since then, you know, I reached out and I've texted him a little bit and we've had
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Small talk, but, you know, the beginning of a not screaming at each other, like just having some text exchange that's not like, you said this, you did this. And I was really appreciative. Like when he went on Watch What Happens Live, he took the high road and I was like watching the whole time being like, he's going to say something horrible about me. And I watched. I was like, oh, all right.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like, OK, thank you, Zach. I was like, I will share that same sentiment when I go on Watch What Happens Live after you. Like, so it took me a long time to move on from the stuff that Zach had said. But I really did get to a point where I was just like, I'm just I'm done with this. I don't want to think about it anymore. People make mistakes. We've beaten this dead horse to a pulp.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like, I want to move on.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Yes and no. So, you know, for me, what I was seeing was often at like our group dinners and things, Danny starting to get a little drunk, Nia visibly looking uncomfortable and being like, we got to go, we got to go. And there was just a couple times where
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Or often, I guess, when they were around where I was like, oh, his drinking, it appears, is making her uncomfortable and giving her anxiety and she's needing to get out of these situations. I've been there. And maybe I projected too much of my own experience and feelings onto her.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
But everything I was kind of clocking was like, oh, she's being made to feel uncomfortable and have anxiety about, like, not letting people see him properly. drunk or, you know, kind of hiding these things. He's drinking in the pantry and hiding it like the things that I had experienced were things I was seeing with them.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I felt like in Santa Barbara, it all came to a head where, yeah, all of us were talking about it when she left the table. So when we have this opportunity to sit down all together, just the girls and she's saying like, hey, the thing that hurt me the most was that you guys waited until I got up from the table to say these things. You know, I'd rather you guys say things directly to my face.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I was like, this is an opportunity for me to not do the shitty thing and go behind her back and talk about it. You know, the second she leaves, I wanted to say to her face one like I want you to know about this pantry thing because I had talked about it with others in Santa Barbara. So I want to say it directly to your face. And tell you what I saw. And also I I was like this.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I am feeling this way of like the stuff I'm seeing is how I felt when I was, you know, with an ex who had issues. And I felt like we all kind of bit her head off in Santa Barbara about his behavior.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I didn't if there really was something that going on there, if there really was an issue, if she was really feeling uncomfortable about his drinking and all of that, I wanted her to know, like, it's not always going to be all of us biting your head off and blaming you for it. If you're really struggling with stuff, you do have friends. I've been there.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I felt like it was my goal was like, it's not a horrible situation that only you're going through. I've been in this situation or what I perceived as a situation that she was in. And if that's what's going on, I want you to know that you have people to talk to about it, that we're not always going to do what we did in Santa Barbara and bite your head off.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I think it's just to be clear, my ex-boyfriend just had, you know, he had some drug and alcohol substance issues like there was it was never abusive. I think that he abused drugs and alcohol. But I apologize. So I was just yeah, it was like one of those things where I don't know, I just was recognizing a lot. And I was like, this seems like the same thing. And I'd rather say it directly to her.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
If I'm feeling this way, she's... This is my friend sitting here saying, say it to my face, anything that you guys have an issue with. And I felt like it was the right time to say, if this is what's going on, I've been there. Obviously, she did not take it that way. And, you know, maybe I was off base in... thinking that, but that was just how I felt in the moment.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I was observing, you know, a lot of instances of this. And I was like, I, I think I should say something here to her face. I wish I didn't now, you know, I wish I would have just let it be. I think, you know, it's at the point where if she's comfortable, if she and Danny are comfortable with his relationship with alcohol, we've all set our piece. We need to like, let it go now.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like, and I think it's up to them to decide what they're comfortable with moving forward.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
To be honest, it was a really I think we were all planning on sitting down and kind of dissecting Santa Barbara and really getting instead of concentrating more on how Danny and Nia felt and what they were going through. I think we really did need to. That was the time that we should have acknowledged Jasmine's feelings and how she was feeling triggered and
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
not well with the whole thing and because nia then opened up about her childhood and she's crying in front of us and i mean it was it hit us all you know in the gut we were like oh this person has been through a lot that we had no idea about and while we really appreciated that it's like also hard i think for jasmine then to look at her friend who has tears in her eyes and say like hey i still need to talk about like my feelings though and like how i'm
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
not okay still. And I think it kind of took that opportunity away from Jasmine or she didn't feel comfortable like saying directly to her face like, hey, I'm still triggered by this and this is why and I want to work through it. So I think it unfortunately then when she left, I think Jasmine's like, I'm still not okay. And she was crying. And I think all of those feelings are valid.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I wish she would have expressed that when Nia was right there. But I also understand because When somebody is crying and talking about their childhood, it's not exactly easy to be like, well, I still have like a bone to pick about the situation. It's not like the easiest environment to say something like that.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And to your point earlier also of like, you know, protecting people from the cameras and everything. None of us are here with like a gun held to our head to participate in, you know. reality TV.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Totally. And I, but the thing is I respect them the way they handle things privately. I think it's just in this arena, we all kind of agreed to show up, to tell our truths, to talk about our lives. And I think if all of us
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
did it sort of the way they are then we're not really talking about anything or if all of us are you know skipping dinner going back home and missing things then you know you never have all of us at the same table together so it's it's a fine line of like i very much respect them for how much they love each other how much they you know how much she protects him and they're
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
way they handle things privately. I admire that. But I also think like at some point then maybe look at like, is this the right place for us then? A place where you're being asked like to share your life openly and honestly and dealing with things out in public instead of behind closed doors.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Of course we fight. Of course we fight. Are we going to get a Janet and Jason fight on TV? Season one, you saw me snap at him. He left me alone to cook for everybody when I was like seven months pregnant. And then Jesse snapped at me and Jason's like, I was like, oh, hell no. And I stormed off.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I remember having a moment where I like went into our bedroom and like, of course, Jason and cameras are running after me. And I was like, okay, I have like 10 seconds to decide. Do I lock the door?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
and hide from this and like deal with it privately and just pretend i oh everything's okay and then scream at jason when we don't have mics on and i took like a breath and i was like we signed up for this like and so you know tears and all jason comes running in after me cameras in our bedroom. I'm pregnant sobbing about having to cook dinner like Jason.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I don't get into huge like blow up fights, but anytime you know that we're filming and that something comes up like we take it as it is because that's our truth. Like I don't have anything to hide where I'm like, oh we get into these like blow up arguments behind closed doors, but to cameras we hide that stuff like
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
You know, we have our normal disagreements and arguments that as they come, we're like, we got to share this because we agreed to share our personal life with an audience. And that's this is part of it. The good, the bad, the ugly.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
That stuff, I think Brittany truly was in love with this man. I think she had rose-colored glasses on for a very long time. I remember the first time she called me right around the time they separated and was like, finally, like, let it all out and was like, fuck him, like, and fuck him for doing this and this and this. And it was like, I was like, oh, fuck.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Finally, because there had definitely been stuff when they were married that I'm like, that's not OK. That's not cool. Like, and so I know. But he didn't. You know, and I watched her make excuses for him. I think she did it for so long that it's hard to break the habit. And I truly think she was in love with this man, unfortunately. And she actually had seen him do some good things.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
So I think she gave him like he would give her a breadcrumb and he she would be like, that's all I need for, you know, see, he did this one thing right. Right. So I think she gave him the benefit of the doubt a lot because she was in love with him and wanted him to change and thought he could. And I'm seeing somebody now that's not putting up with any shit.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Like, I think if and when there's a season three, you'll see a much stronger and different side of Brittany that's putting her foot down, putting boundaries in her life that are important. And, of course, it's going to be a daily struggle, like holding this person accountable. And some of the stuff he did this summer, it's like so big and horrible.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
It's like, honestly, even from Jax, it was like shocking. I'm like, what do you mean you didn't pay your mortgage? Like, what do you mean like this and this? And it's just I can't be too mad at her for trying. She's trying to break a habit of being the one who always was an apologist for him and defending him blindly. And I think old habits die hard, but she's definitely a lot stronger now.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
And I think, you know, if you saw and talked to her now about Jax, you'd see a different side than even just a year ago. Okay.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Thanks for having me.
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
I'm at Janet on Instagram. You got Janet?
The Viall Files
E942 - The Valley w/ Janet, Mormon Wives w/ Chris Klemens, RHOA, and Britani Bateman Scammer Allegations
Is this Janet? Yeah. Janet Jackson's team really fucked it up. I don't know what they really dropped the ball there, but yeah, somehow I got it.