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So what you're saying is the Trump administration canceled the presidential management fellows, um, program, uh,
Forest Service. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time we heard anything about public lands was when President Trump renamed a national wildlife refuge in Texas to honor the victim of a killing by an undocumented immigrant. We didn't hear anything about federal lands otherwise, did we?
Forest Service. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only time we heard anything about public lands was when President Trump renamed a national wildlife refuge in Texas to honor the victim of a killing by an undocumented immigrant. We didn't hear anything about federal lands otherwise, did we?
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that it didn't seem like wild lands, the land management agencies, were even on the radar of the president in this speech at all.
I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that it didn't seem like wild lands, the land management agencies, were even on the radar of the president in this speech at all.
Najela, let's talk about you are at the U.S. Digital Service, the precursor to Doge. But one of your main focuses was on making the immigration system, including the enforcement system, more efficient. And the president touted all these accomplishments that he said were accomplishments about immigration, about deportations, closing the border. The part that
Najela, let's talk about you are at the U.S. Digital Service, the precursor to Doge. But one of your main focuses was on making the immigration system, including the enforcement system, more efficient. And the president touted all these accomplishments that he said were accomplishments about immigration, about deportations, closing the border. The part that
watched you react to most strongly was when he said, the media and our friends in the Democrat Party keep saying we need new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. What bugged you so much about that?
watched you react to most strongly was when he said, the media and our friends in the Democrat Party keep saying we need new legislation. We must have legislation to secure the border. But it turned out that all we really needed was a new president. What bugged you so much about that?
Which you yourself have been working on in terms of efficiency.
Which you yourself have been working on in terms of efficiency.
For a very brief moment, and Rachel referenced this earlier, you worked for Doge because the U.S. Digital Service became Doge. And when the president said that he has saved, I want to make sure I get this right, hundreds of billions of dollars, your reaction was you just shook your head.
For a very brief moment, and Rachel referenced this earlier, you worked for Doge because the U.S. Digital Service became Doge. And when the president said that he has saved, I want to make sure I get this right, hundreds of billions of dollars, your reaction was you just shook your head.
All right. And let's go to Alex Taylor, who's our geologist again in the group. We heard President Trump talk about something you worked directly on, which was critical earth minerals. He said that he was, quote, expanding critical minerals and rare earths. But he fired you. That's what you were working on.
All right. And let's go to Alex Taylor, who's our geologist again in the group. We heard President Trump talk about something you worked directly on, which was critical earth minerals. He said that he was, quote, expanding critical minerals and rare earths. But he fired you. That's what you were working on.
You also were particularly seemed annoyed by the statement that he made about thousands of federal workers not showing up to the office because the work that you do and your colleagues do with the U.S. Geological Survey is not done in the office. It's largely done in the field. I've
You also were particularly seemed annoyed by the statement that he made about thousands of federal workers not showing up to the office because the work that you do and your colleagues do with the U.S. Geological Survey is not done in the office. It's largely done in the field. I've
It really is a profound honor to have spent this time with you guys. And again, I just want to say, for me personally, on behalf of I'm sure so many people that are watching, I'm really sorry about the situation that you guys are in and really wishing you guys all the best. Thank you guys very much. Steph, back over to you.
It really is a profound honor to have spent this time with you guys. And again, I just want to say, for me personally, on behalf of I'm sure so many people that are watching, I'm really sorry about the situation that you guys are in and really wishing you guys all the best. Thank you guys very much. Steph, back over to you.