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Yes. Yeah, you and Willie both went down. Willie got her baptized in a guy that was about 200 or 300 pounds.
Yes. Yeah, you and Willie both went down. Willie got her baptized in a guy that was about 200 or 300 pounds.
It was a couple hundred of these.
It was a couple hundred of these.
So some of the, because we want to talk about the new show with you guys, because obviously it's a big thing coming up. But I was thinking about, Willie, I've told so many stories about the old show, the times you got hurt, because Willie was the one always getting hurt. He did his own stunts, which was part of, you know, we tried to get him to have a stunt double.
So some of the, because we want to talk about the new show with you guys, because obviously it's a big thing coming up. But I was thinking about, Willie, I've told so many stories about the old show, the times you got hurt, because Willie was the one always getting hurt. He did his own stunts, which was part of, you know, we tried to get him to have a stunt double.
Running is not considered a stunt double.
Running is not considered a stunt double.
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Will, the very first injury, you hurt your knee coming out of that trailer episode because there was some varmints in the trailer. The possum was in the trailer.
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Will, the very first injury, you hurt your knee coming out of that trailer episode because there was some varmints in the trailer. The possum was in the trailer.
And you jumped out of the boat when the snake jumped in. And every time you got hurt.
And you jumped out of the boat when the snake jumped in. And every time you got hurt.
Yeah, I remember that. Then you were limping around after that. So it would always be like, and I'm sure people thought they were watching the show, that we were just making this up. Willie getting hurt, but no, it was real.
Yeah, I remember that. Then you were limping around after that. So it would always be like, and I'm sure people thought they were watching the show, that we were just making this up. Willie getting hurt, but no, it was real.
I don't know if this was y'all's idea or some producer or somebody, but in the episode, in Will's episode, when you tore your hamstring and then they put you on the back of that Polaris or John Deere, Which was kind of a throwback to the guy on Spokane the Bandit, Jackie Gleason.
I don't know if this was y'all's idea or some producer or somebody, but in the episode, in Will's episode, when you tore your hamstring and then they put you on the back of that Polaris or John Deere, Which was kind of a throwback to the guy on Spokane the Bandit, Jackie Gleason.
I don't know if y'all thought about that, but he would ride around on the back of this thing and bark orders to everybody on the football field.
I don't know if y'all thought about that, but he would ride around on the back of this thing and bark orders to everybody on the football field.
And it was Willie. It was Willie playing that.
And it was Willie. It was Willie playing that.
You know what you call that?
You know what you call that?
That was my first question.
That was my first question.
Is Willie still doing physical comedy?
Is Willie still doing physical comedy?
He does.
He does.
But I always say, Will, that the truest form of a comedian – is a person who does things that can laugh at himself. And what most people don't know from the show, the behind the scenes, is every time Willie would get insulted, which was a lot on the show from Cy or Chase or whoever, a lot of them were his idea. Like he'd say, say it this way. Or say, call me this. Especially with Cy.
But I always say, Will, that the truest form of a comedian – is a person who does things that can laugh at himself. And what most people don't know from the show, the behind the scenes, is every time Willie would get insulted, which was a lot on the show from Cy or Chase or whoever, a lot of them were his idea. Like he'd say, say it this way. Or say, call me this. Especially with Cy.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, exactly.
We've all become woke. Actually, a walk. Or a walk, yeah.
We've all become woke. Actually, a walk. Or a walk, yeah.
But don't y'all think that's what made him so funny in the show? Because he never got out of the Phil bubble, whatever it was.
But don't y'all think that's what made him so funny in the show? Because he never got out of the Phil bubble, whatever it was.
Well, Jace, I would put it waiting on women in general because this is a very impatient man that first had a wife, two daughters, and two granddaughters for like 30 years. And I felt like I spent my life waiting on women.
Well, Jace, I would put it waiting on women in general because this is a very impatient man that first had a wife, two daughters, and two granddaughters for like 30 years. And I felt like I spent my life waiting on women.
Well, and I think the inside joke for us and the family was we all grew up watching local news because back in the day we had no cable. And so you had to watch local news. We loved it. We loved it. And so we all have an affinity for it, although now it's funny when I go back and watch it. I still watch it. Do you really? And I record it.
Well, and I think the inside joke for us and the family was we all grew up watching local news because back in the day we had no cable. And so you had to watch local news. We loved it. We loved it. And so we all have an affinity for it, although now it's funny when I go back and watch it. I still watch it. Do you really? And I record it.
Which to me is some of the funniest stuff on television now. It's unbelievable.
Which to me is some of the funniest stuff on television now. It's unbelievable.
A couple of times, yeah.
A couple of times, yeah.
It was a local paper when they said, you know, they were just going and saying, what do you like about the fair? And everybody would tell us. And we had just gotten some food. And we were sitting in the little food tent area. And they said, ma'am, why do you like the fair? And she said, she looks down. She's not seasoned yet.
It was a local paper when they said, you know, they were just going and saying, what do you like about the fair? And everybody would tell us. And we had just gotten some food. And we were sitting in the little food tent area. And they said, ma'am, why do you like the fair? And she said, she looks down. She's not seasoned yet.
She looks down at her chicken stick and she said, well, you know, I like that you get onions and garlic.
She looks down at her chicken stick and she said, well, you know, I like that you get onions and garlic.
Because that was her little chicken on a stick that she had just got.
Because that was her little chicken on a stick that she had just got.
But that made the quote in the paper.
But that made the quote in the paper.
Who's that kid peeing on his own forehead? Oh, that's Zach. Okay.
Who's that kid peeing on his own forehead? Oh, that's Zach. Okay.
I mean, you go look up. Was that just a bomb on us the other day? Because when Jace was talking about appearing on the show recently, then Zach says, well, I'm an executive producer on that show.
I mean, you go look up. Was that just a bomb on us the other day? Because when Jace was talking about appearing on the show recently, then Zach says, well, I'm an executive producer on that show.
You know what I said, Jace? Welcome back.
You know what I said, Jace? Welcome back.
Well, that's the deal with reality TV.
Well, that's the deal with reality TV.
So tell us a little bit about what we're going to look for.
So tell us a little bit about what we're going to look for.
Oh, really?
Oh, really?
You know what that proves? That men's brains form at 30. See, when you can laugh at yourself.
You know what that proves? That men's brains form at 30. See, when you can laugh at yourself.
Well, of course it's me. But it was really interesting because you rarely see two adult men walk into a room wearing the exact same thing. It was awkward, but I will say this.
Well, of course it's me. But it was really interesting because you rarely see two adult men walk into a room wearing the exact same thing. It was awkward, but I will say this.
I didn't even feel weird about it, and the reason why is because Cozy Earth gives you the coziest feel of anything I've ever worn, and I have to be honest, I cannot wait to get home in the afternoon, early evening, not have anything going on that night, and to get into my Cozy Earth pajama.
I didn't even feel weird about it, and the reason why is because Cozy Earth gives you the coziest feel of anything I've ever worn, and I have to be honest, I cannot wait to get home in the afternoon, early evening, not have anything going on that night, and to get into my Cozy Earth pajama.
There's no stoplight. When it first opened, I was preaching. I was like... West Monroe, Arkansas Road has been fixed. And now I go over and drive on Arkansas Road, even if I'm not going anywhere. I just drive up and down. Just for fun.
There's no stoplight. When it first opened, I was preaching. I was like... West Monroe, Arkansas Road has been fixed. And now I go over and drive on Arkansas Road, even if I'm not going anywhere. I just drive up and down. Just for fun.
Don't tell him. Jace understands a lot about local laws.
Don't tell him. Jace understands a lot about local laws.
That's your call.
That's your call.
We call that W-O-Z, waiting on Zach.
We call that W-O-Z, waiting on Zach.
Yeah, I've done that in the Bahamas.
Yeah, I've done that in the Bahamas.
I do that in the Bahamas when we're down there.
I do that in the Bahamas when we're down there.
Well, because everything's backward on the getting off when you're getting off.
Well, because everything's backward on the getting off when you're getting off.
It was like a 50-gallon drum he was driving. He might not.
It was like a 50-gallon drum he was driving. He might not.
Maybe you could hear the gas sloshing in the backseat.
Maybe you could hear the gas sloshing in the backseat.
No, it was a Ford Fiesta.
No, it was a Ford Fiesta.
Well, look, we were telling this story, Will, recently. Lisa was on the podcast about when we were going to my wedding, Lisa and Paul had put kerosene in the big car, and so it made it about two miles up the road. And on the straightaway, it just died. So when Paul came along in the Fiesta oil cam, we all had to get in it. There were like 12 of us. Do you remember that?
Well, look, we were telling this story, Will, recently. Lisa was on the podcast about when we were going to my wedding, Lisa and Paul had put kerosene in the big car, and so it made it about two miles up the road. And on the straightaway, it just died. So when Paul came along in the Fiesta oil cam, we all had to get in it. There were like 12 of us. Do you remember that?
We went to the wedding in the Fiesta car. 12 of us to my way.
We went to the wedding in the Fiesta car. 12 of us to my way.
With kerosene.
With kerosene.
Yeah, you don't bring that up on the podcast. Sorry, Zach. I should have known in that moment Lisa and I were going to have some troubles in our marriage.
Yeah, you don't bring that up on the podcast. Sorry, Zach. I should have known in that moment Lisa and I were going to have some troubles in our marriage.
Disaster.
Disaster.
They would have had two days to set aside for this conversation. Are you kidding me?
They would have had two days to set aside for this conversation. Are you kidding me?
He's like the guy that gets up to do the Lord Sober Talk and says, you know, this is probably going to be the last time I get asked to do this. And then you're like, yeah. Yeah, it is. Thank you for making that prophecy because it's about to happen.
He's like the guy that gets up to do the Lord Sober Talk and says, you know, this is probably going to be the last time I get asked to do this. And then you're like, yeah. Yeah, it is. Thank you for making that prophecy because it's about to happen.
Look at you now. Look at you now. You're taking a producer. You're doing things.
Look at you now. Look at you now. You're taking a producer. You're doing things.
It's hurry up and wait.
It's hurry up and wait.
Willie, we will make sure you're in this.
Willie, we will make sure you're in this.
Well, I will say just as a fan of now the show, I can't wait to watch it because I can't talk about it like Zach, but I know there's some scenes being filmed today when I heard about it because my son-in-law was involved in them. And so when I heard about what they were doing, I laughed out loud. Like he told me the setup and I thought, oh, this town. So I'm eagerly awaiting some of these scenes.
Well, I will say just as a fan of now the show, I can't wait to watch it because I can't talk about it like Zach, but I know there's some scenes being filmed today when I heard about it because my son-in-law was involved in them. And so when I heard about what they were doing, I laughed out loud. Like he told me the setup and I thought, oh, this town. So I'm eagerly awaiting some of these scenes.
Zach, you went from an extra on Duck Dynasty to this life. Look at where you are today, thanks to Willie.
Zach, you went from an extra on Duck Dynasty to this life. Look at where you are today, thanks to Willie.
I thought that may be the name.
I thought that may be the name.
Oh, yeah, that's right. But they live on in our memory. That thing revolutionized the game, didn't it? See, that's why I had the never again.
Oh, yeah, that's right. But they live on in our memory. That thing revolutionized the game, didn't it? See, that's why I had the never again.
Well, it's different. Because I know there's got to be some differences.
Well, it's different. Because I know there's got to be some differences.
By the way, you're the new Phil.
By the way, you're the new Phil.
We were going to tell you, Jace, you're the new Phil.
We were going to tell you, Jace, you're the new Phil.
Jace is famous for saying he's not funny on purpose. So he's only accidentally funny.
Jace is famous for saying he's not funny on purpose. So he's only accidentally funny.
what we're doing this wasn't here we're actually in the Duck Tomato Warehouse can I say that podcasts are a part of oh yeah they're a big part of the story driven like it kind of reminded me of the old days it was kind of the duck call room itself and now it's podcasts that kind of become that driver so I loved what I've been hearing which is why when people always ask they're like why don't y'all just do that again I'm like well it actually was what we were doing so they're doing a show now based on
what we're doing this wasn't here we're actually in the Duck Tomato Warehouse can I say that podcasts are a part of oh yeah they're a big part of the story driven like it kind of reminded me of the old days it was kind of the duck call room itself and now it's podcasts that kind of become that driver so I loved what I've been hearing which is why when people always ask they're like why don't y'all just do that again I'm like well it actually was what we were doing so they're doing a show now based on
Are you talking about like the one we got last night at 11 that said Willie and Corey are going to be on the podcast today? Like that late night.
Are you talking about like the one we got last night at 11 that said Willie and Corey are going to be on the podcast today? Like that late night.
We just turned it into an alcohol-laden thing.
We just turned it into an alcohol-laden thing.
It's one of the coldest I've ever been in my life.
It's one of the coldest I've ever been in my life.
All right, so we're out of time. Look for it. Duck Dynasty, the revolution.
All right, so we're out of time. Look for it. Duck Dynasty, the revolution.
The revolution.
The revolution.
The revival is coming out what? June 1st. June 1st, Sunday nights.
The revival is coming out what? June 1st. June 1st, Sunday nights.
So it's coming up.
So it's coming up.
Well, thank y'all for coming on the podcast and helping us.
Well, thank y'all for coming on the podcast and helping us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He told them when the two wrestlers showed up from Atlanta, they were purple, literally, because they were out in this cold with just the tights on. And shirtless. Shirtless. And one of them walks by Willie. You know, we're not rolling. I wish we would have been because he told the guy, he said, look, dude, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but your nipples right now could cut glass.
He told them when the two wrestlers showed up from Atlanta, they were purple, literally, because they were out in this cold with just the tights on. And shirtless. Shirtless. And one of them walks by Willie. You know, we're not rolling. I wish we would have been because he told the guy, he said, look, dude, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but your nipples right now could cut glass.
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I forgot.
I forgot.
By the way, welcome Willie and Corey, six minutes in to the Unashamed podcast. Thank you.
By the way, welcome Willie and Corey, six minutes in to the Unashamed podcast. Thank you.
Well, let's say it again because I'm not sure we're rolling when he said it. He said, this is for Jace, but I need to be done by one o'clock.
Well, let's say it again because I'm not sure we're rolling when he said it. He said, this is for Jace, but I need to be done by one o'clock.
So he tells us the other day, he's like, well, I got a funny story about a bear wrecking my truck. I said, oh, perfect. That'll be our call to open. So I was like, Zach, so someone in your family wrecked your truck? He said, yeah, I can't talk about that. I can't comment.
So he tells us the other day, he's like, well, I got a funny story about a bear wrecking my truck. I said, oh, perfect. That'll be our call to open. So I was like, Zach, so someone in your family wrecked your truck? He said, yeah, I can't talk about that. I can't comment.
That's what usually people say. Then he tells me, he said, well, my kids are going to be on American Idol. I said, ooh, that's great. And then I'm like, so, Zach, you got something to tell us? He said, well, maybe there might be someone in my family that might be on a show that might air in the future. And I'm like, what?
That's what usually people say. Then he tells me, he said, well, my kids are going to be on American Idol. I said, ooh, that's great. And then I'm like, so, Zach, you got something to tell us? He said, well, maybe there might be someone in my family that might be on a show that might air in the future. And I'm like, what?
Just these little teasers.
Just these little teasers.
Which is about right, because they're both kind of, yeah.
Which is about right, because they're both kind of, yeah.
The Jews had it right all along, because that was the rabbi. That's when you became a full teacher.
The Jews had it right all along, because that was the rabbi. That's when you became a full teacher.
No doubt about it, Zach. And I can't think of a better group for us to partner with than someone who's willing to invest in the spiritual future of kids. I mean, because it was invested in me, and it made all the difference in the world.
No doubt about it, Zach. And I can't think of a better group for us to partner with than someone who's willing to invest in the spiritual future of kids. I mean, because it was invested in me, and it made all the difference in the world.
Because all we have to do, Corey, is to change the whole dynamic is suck our gut in. Yeah. Push everything up to the top and it's like, oh yeah, still got it.
Because all we have to do, Corey, is to change the whole dynamic is suck our gut in. Yeah. Push everything up to the top and it's like, oh yeah, still got it.
That's it.
That's it.
Yes. Yeah, you and Willie both went down. Willie got her baptized in a guy that was about 200 or 300 pounds.
It was a couple hundred of these.
So some of the, because we want to talk about the new show with you guys, because obviously it's a big thing coming up. But I was thinking about, Willie, I've told so many stories about the old show, the times you got hurt, because Willie was the one always getting hurt. He did his own stunts, which was part of, you know, we tried to get him to have a stunt double.
Running is not considered a stunt double.
Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Will, the very first injury, you hurt your knee coming out of that trailer episode because there was some varmints in the trailer. The possum was in the trailer.
And you jumped out of the boat when the snake jumped in. And every time you got hurt.
Yeah, I remember that. Then you were limping around after that. So it would always be like, and I'm sure people thought they were watching the show, that we were just making this up. Willie getting hurt, but no, it was real.
I don't know if this was y'all's idea or some producer or somebody, but in the episode, in Will's episode, when you tore your hamstring and then they put you on the back of that Polaris or John Deere, Which was kind of a throwback to the guy on Spokane the Bandit, Jackie Gleason.
I don't know if y'all thought about that, but he would ride around on the back of this thing and bark orders to everybody on the football field.
And it was Willie. It was Willie playing that.
You know what you call that?
That was my first question.
Is Willie still doing physical comedy?
He does.
But I always say, Will, that the truest form of a comedian – is a person who does things that can laugh at himself. And what most people don't know from the show, the behind the scenes, is every time Willie would get insulted, which was a lot on the show from Cy or Chase or whoever, a lot of them were his idea. Like he'd say, say it this way. Or say, call me this. Especially with Cy.
Yeah, exactly.
We've all become woke. Actually, a walk. Or a walk, yeah.
But don't y'all think that's what made him so funny in the show? Because he never got out of the Phil bubble, whatever it was.
Well, Jace, I would put it waiting on women in general because this is a very impatient man that first had a wife, two daughters, and two granddaughters for like 30 years. And I felt like I spent my life waiting on women.
Well, and I think the inside joke for us and the family was we all grew up watching local news because back in the day we had no cable. And so you had to watch local news. We loved it. We loved it. And so we all have an affinity for it, although now it's funny when I go back and watch it. I still watch it. Do you really? And I record it.
Which to me is some of the funniest stuff on television now. It's unbelievable.
A couple of times, yeah.
It was a local paper when they said, you know, they were just going and saying, what do you like about the fair? And everybody would tell us. And we had just gotten some food. And we were sitting in the little food tent area. And they said, ma'am, why do you like the fair? And she said, she looks down. She's not seasoned yet.
She looks down at her chicken stick and she said, well, you know, I like that you get onions and garlic.
Because that was her little chicken on a stick that she had just got.
But that made the quote in the paper.
Who's that kid peeing on his own forehead? Oh, that's Zach. Okay.
I mean, you go look up. Was that just a bomb on us the other day? Because when Jace was talking about appearing on the show recently, then Zach says, well, I'm an executive producer on that show.
You know what I said, Jace? Welcome back.
Well, that's the deal with reality TV.
So tell us a little bit about what we're going to look for.
Oh, really?
You know what that proves? That men's brains form at 30. See, when you can laugh at yourself.
Well, of course it's me. But it was really interesting because you rarely see two adult men walk into a room wearing the exact same thing. It was awkward, but I will say this.
I didn't even feel weird about it, and the reason why is because Cozy Earth gives you the coziest feel of anything I've ever worn, and I have to be honest, I cannot wait to get home in the afternoon, early evening, not have anything going on that night, and to get into my Cozy Earth pajama.
There's no stoplight. When it first opened, I was preaching. I was like... West Monroe, Arkansas Road has been fixed. And now I go over and drive on Arkansas Road, even if I'm not going anywhere. I just drive up and down. Just for fun.
Don't tell him. Jace understands a lot about local laws.
That's your call.
We call that W-O-Z, waiting on Zach.
Yeah, I've done that in the Bahamas.
I do that in the Bahamas when we're down there.
Well, because everything's backward on the getting off when you're getting off.
It was like a 50-gallon drum he was driving. He might not.
Maybe you could hear the gas sloshing in the backseat.
No, it was a Ford Fiesta.
Well, look, we were telling this story, Will, recently. Lisa was on the podcast about when we were going to my wedding, Lisa and Paul had put kerosene in the big car, and so it made it about two miles up the road. And on the straightaway, it just died. So when Paul came along in the Fiesta oil cam, we all had to get in it. There were like 12 of us. Do you remember that?
We went to the wedding in the Fiesta car. 12 of us to my way.
With kerosene.
Yeah, you don't bring that up on the podcast. Sorry, Zach. I should have known in that moment Lisa and I were going to have some troubles in our marriage.
Disaster.
They would have had two days to set aside for this conversation. Are you kidding me?
He's like the guy that gets up to do the Lord Sober Talk and says, you know, this is probably going to be the last time I get asked to do this. And then you're like, yeah. Yeah, it is. Thank you for making that prophecy because it's about to happen.
Look at you now. Look at you now. You're taking a producer. You're doing things.
It's hurry up and wait.
Willie, we will make sure you're in this.
Well, I will say just as a fan of now the show, I can't wait to watch it because I can't talk about it like Zach, but I know there's some scenes being filmed today when I heard about it because my son-in-law was involved in them. And so when I heard about what they were doing, I laughed out loud. Like he told me the setup and I thought, oh, this town. So I'm eagerly awaiting some of these scenes.
Zach, you went from an extra on Duck Dynasty to this life. Look at where you are today, thanks to Willie.
I thought that may be the name.
Oh, yeah, that's right. But they live on in our memory. That thing revolutionized the game, didn't it? See, that's why I had the never again.
Well, it's different. Because I know there's got to be some differences.
By the way, you're the new Phil.
We were going to tell you, Jace, you're the new Phil.
Jace is famous for saying he's not funny on purpose. So he's only accidentally funny.
what we're doing this wasn't here we're actually in the Duck Tomato Warehouse can I say that podcasts are a part of oh yeah they're a big part of the story driven like it kind of reminded me of the old days it was kind of the duck call room itself and now it's podcasts that kind of become that driver so I loved what I've been hearing which is why when people always ask they're like why don't y'all just do that again I'm like well it actually was what we were doing so they're doing a show now based on
Are you talking about like the one we got last night at 11 that said Willie and Corey are going to be on the podcast today? Like that late night.
We just turned it into an alcohol-laden thing.
It's one of the coldest I've ever been in my life.
All right, so we're out of time. Look for it. Duck Dynasty, the revolution.
The revolution.
The revival is coming out what? June 1st. June 1st, Sunday nights.
So it's coming up.
Well, thank y'all for coming on the podcast and helping us.
Yeah.
He told them when the two wrestlers showed up from Atlanta, they were purple, literally, because they were out in this cold with just the tights on. And shirtless. Shirtless. And one of them walks by Willie. You know, we're not rolling. I wish we would have been because he told the guy, he said, look, dude, I don't want you to take this the wrong way, but your nipples right now could cut glass.
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I forgot.
By the way, welcome Willie and Corey, six minutes in to the Unashamed podcast. Thank you.
Well, let's say it again because I'm not sure we're rolling when he said it. He said, this is for Jace, but I need to be done by one o'clock.
So he tells us the other day, he's like, well, I got a funny story about a bear wrecking my truck. I said, oh, perfect. That'll be our call to open. So I was like, Zach, so someone in your family wrecked your truck? He said, yeah, I can't talk about that. I can't comment.
That's what usually people say. Then he tells me, he said, well, my kids are going to be on American Idol. I said, ooh, that's great. And then I'm like, so, Zach, you got something to tell us? He said, well, maybe there might be someone in my family that might be on a show that might air in the future. And I'm like, what?
Just these little teasers.
Which is about right, because they're both kind of, yeah.
The Jews had it right all along, because that was the rabbi. That's when you became a full teacher.
No doubt about it, Zach. And I can't think of a better group for us to partner with than someone who's willing to invest in the spiritual future of kids. I mean, because it was invested in me, and it made all the difference in the world.
Because all we have to do, Corey, is to change the whole dynamic is suck our gut in. Yeah. Push everything up to the top and it's like, oh yeah, still got it.
That's it.