Israel Adesanya
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The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Not as active as I was in the beginning, maybe, but I want to be active, and I still feel great from the last camp. Did some testing about three weeks ago, found out where we were at. I was about where I was before this last fight, four weeks out. So I was like, okay, cool. We're still good. Let's build off that. So, yeah, I want to fight again. How much of an effect did taking 11 months off have?
The Joe Rogan Experience
JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
And I think Engage also was... Last final three, when they had the whole Reebok fiasco, it was Venom, Engage, and someone else. I can't remember who else. So we didn't get the gig, but it would have been nice, though.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I think it was more good than bad. I know some people say ring rust or this and that, and I'm like, nah. I felt good in there. I felt good in there. And it was only when I watched the fight back, I saw a couple of mistakes I made, even on the feet, where I was like, ooh, don't do that again. Just with my feet work, my exits. Even David said, you had sloppy exits. I was like, yeah, my bad.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But, yeah, that and then the moment at the end when I slipped and just the lapse in judgment when I was just letting him know it was me tripping. Those kind of moments, maybe if I was as active, it wouldn't have happened, but who knows? We'll never know. But I am happy with how I performed. I was happy with the shape I came in. I came in really good shape. And what's his name? Bill, this guy.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
He did the numbers for me. He said this is the most active I've been in any fight by far in my UFC career. He crunched the numbers up and said my strike per minute rate or whatever. All you nerds figure it out. You can do your own. But, yeah, Bill Smart, he's this guy who, Helps me now with my strength. He did the numbers and said, this is the most active you were.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
So we can do some things different. Put a little bit more gas in the tank, things like that, and then just stay active like that. It was good. And I had fun in there. I had fun just exchanging. Yeah.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Yeah. I think the best I saw BJ from watching him, especially live. he was training with them. UFC 107, I think Diego Sanchez, he looked like a demon.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Even in shape, like he was fucking abs and all that. I agree, definitely. You can always sharpen the tools, you know, keep it sharp. But again, for when you're in a camp, it's just about getting fit. And yeah, there's some things we can tweak so that way we can keep that output because when you get Fatigue is when you lose your laps in judgment. Your reflexes as well.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Things like that just start to go down.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I don't think so. There was one point in the third round when me and him, we really put it on. And we kind of had this low-key agreement. Like, okay, you're fucked. I'm fucked. Let's chill for a little bit. And then I think round four I came out like, cool, bam, bam, bam, and I did that sprawl on him. But again, he's so stubborn because I sprawled on him.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I literally, he shot, I sprawled, and my hips hit the back of his head into the mat. Might have rocked him, I don't know. And then, what's his name, Mark Goddard's like, get up, and he's on one knee. And then when he was like, get up,
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
and he finally decided to get up slowly and i tried to attack him he just threw but not to try and hit me he just threw just to stop my momentum you know stop me from coming at him and yeah he's a guy that just strong will strong will like yeah i can respect that physically strong too yeah not as strong as i thought it would be probably because i felt strong as well like i packed on some some muscle for that fight preparing for those kind of grueling exchanges
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I mean, they should probably have some discretion. I did like it, though. And I do like the fact now, like, the last fight I had... Hunter hit me up way before any gold gloves or anything, says, Izzy, we're gonna do this for certain fighters. What design would you like on your shorts? And I was like, bet.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Yeah, but even just for me myself, I just wanted to feel strong. So me and my boy AB, we put on some muscle for that fight, and then having Matt actually making good food for me for the first time ever, because I got this far off just whatever I wanted to eat. You know, Uri eats.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But honestly, for me, Having those kind of, because I'm not 23 anymore, 24. My body doesn't metabolize food the way it used to, so I have to think about it like Israel. Be smart. Understand your body's getting older. I don't feel old, though. That's the thing. When I was young, I thought, 34, I'm done with this game. Then I'm like, I'm old. But that was when I was 24.
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But now that I'm here, I'm like... I can still squeeze a lot out of this. I can still squeeze a lot out of this. So we are. Have you ever used a hyperbaric chamber? Nah, not yet. I don't know if we have that in Auckland.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Is telomeres like the DNA strand or something?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Like Bieber, the Kardashians getting them.
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Okay. Is it USADA approved or is it one of them?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
And I hit up Curtis, who works with Engage, does a lot of the designs, and I taught him what I wanted, and then he just did some custom stuff, and I sent a few to Hunter, and then boom, I got my shorts, the Lightning. And I quite like that. I like expression. That's one thing I do miss about boxing or kickboxing is the expression on the Hong Kong bands, the shorts.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Okay, I have to look into that So if I wanted to do it, I'd maybe do it say like what twice a week or something Yeah, just something like that. How long does the effect last for I?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I bet you someone else, if they have one in Auckland now, they'll definitely hit me up and be like, hey. I bet they do. Yeah, I'd like to try that.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
sauna cold plunge hyperbaric everything every edge you can get red light therapy all that that's where I'm at now that's where I was this last camp and I feel like even the one before that and the one before that I just remember thinking like how can I it was actually Eugene who said how can you make this camp better and I'll always find something to do to make this camp better the next one so that's like the last three camps so this one I took it with the whole having breakfast having a chef help me that was crazy that you used to train with no breakfast that's so crazy
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
So that was my way, I guess. Then I found out about intermittent fasting, and I realized, oh, I've been doing that shit for years. I was just doing it by, I guess, laziness or accident. But it actually helps, though. Like, wake up, have two eggs, or maybe he'll make sometimes something with chia seed, but normally eggs. and a bacon piece or something, and then... She needs something.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Yeah, something, just to get the fuel, yeah. And even Jordy, from Fight Dietitian, he told me, yeah, you should definitely be having breakfast, because he thought, like, you're crazy training the way you do train. And some of my morning sessions as well will be grueling. And then I'll go have breakfast. But I enjoyed it that way because I felt like more.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
One thing is when I fight, fight day, my body doesn't want to eat. He'll make me like a nice plate of something delicious, and my body is just like, nah. So fight day, I still try and eat something, maybe at least an egg because he'll have pancakes, eggs, whatever, bacon, an egg and a little bit of bacon. But my body just doesn't want to eat.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Like Jonathan Haggerty, he has cool shorts with golden bows on the side. I like that. It's cool.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
No. So I just I think DC said the same thing as well. One time he said he likes to fight hungry. So that way he gets that edge. And I feel that way when it's fight day. But when it comes to training now, I definitely like to have breakfast. I like the way it feels. I can like now I've done it for a few months.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I understand the benefits of a healthy breakfast before you have a grueling training session.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
He's so big. He looks good at 145 at UFC 300. Yeah, I like that for him.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Yeah, it's expression. I don't like everybody has to wear the same shit. I think maybe the UFC at the time, they wanted to be...
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
There'll be something. Like, they've got the whole thing at one with the hydration clause. But the thing is, no matter what, people are always going to try and find a way.
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They're always going to try and find a way to sneak past the hydration test or something that they can use to pass it. But I don't know how that works. I don't know how they test for it. It's never happened to me. But weight cutting, even when I started fighting, people used to tell me, go down to 170 for you guys. Oh, my God. Hell no. How the fuck can you make 170?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Back when I was skinny, before I got really brolic, I could make maybe 80 kgs. That's close to 170, because 170 is 77 kgs. But lowest I ever got to was 80 as a kickboxer. That was it. At 170, I'd die. I wouldn't even... Because I've seen some of these weight cuts with guys and girls.
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You see her when she was in the tub crying and shaking. And Oliveira when they go and they huddle around them. When you cut weight, though, I'll say this thing. For me, when I cut weight... It's a spiritual experience sometimes. It's a weird experience, because not just me, I've seen fighters who have, not get delirious, but start saying things that they wouldn't normally say.
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Engage. This is my fightwear brand. Ashbel Castro started this. Oh. He was one of the... I'll say this. He was one of the only guys who fucked with me before I really blew up. So when I was fighting in China and I lost to Alex, they stopped giving me fights. And I had, I think at the time, I was the highest paid foreign fighter in China at the time.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
taken seriously in a sense so we had to like professional sports but nah I think we're all different independent contractors and we have different styles so I'm glad now they've brought out for certain fighters like O'Malley in his pink shorts Bryce Mitchell his camo shorts yeah let us express ourselves I like that but I wish fighters had the ability to advertise
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Not even in a bad way, but just the way they talk. Because you're close to death. Yeah, you see the light.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Yeah. My weight cuts are normally pretty tame. Not as bad because I think I'm perfect for 185. But the ones that I've seen guys lose a lot of weight the day of and I see them, how they are. And even when they go to the scale, you see their face just... Yeah, you never look too destroyed. I always come in underweight as well. What do you normally weigh the week of a fight? Week of a fight?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
If I get to the fight location, say... If they weigh me, if I'm, say...
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
198 oh that's 200 yeah that's easy i'm like cool that's normally what i'm at that's just a few hard sauna sessions yeah but even not just the water loading and then it's like my body knows it's weird how my body does a day my body is just like it just knows okay we're getting on the plane you've done it before it just knows it's just like muscle memory and i get to the fight location my body is like cool we're doing this and then the weight just starts to go
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Yeah, because it takes how many hours if you do it orally?
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You're trying to protect as you're fucking noggin slushing around in your queen. Yeah. Yeah. Because what is cerebral fluid? It's made of... Well, I'm guessing a lot of water, right?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Let's go battle to the death. And then you get head kicked in the fucking chin. Yeah. I mean, look, I do love this game, and I think weight cuts is always going to be a part of it right now. But who knows? Because even though we have height differentials, are we going to start discriminating against that? Like, okay, we only have height classes. Is that the next?
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They should have the ones in between. Okay, let's take it. 10 pounds. 165, 170, 175, 180, like that.
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Because there's bigger boys out there.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Mark Hunt used to cut down to 265. Yeah. Crazy. Even Francis did as well. Yeah, if they did, I mean, they can just, I think they talked about doing it. They talked about doing it recently. Maybe last year, I think. They talked about adding more weight classes, but then I never heard anything about it again. I know California was flirting with it. Okay, maybe that's what I saw.
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At least they took this shit out. yeah they took finally yeah finally well look i always thought that that's like a group chat like decision just say yo this is a dumb rule let's take it out boom but why does it take so long is it because the commission all over the united states or whatever have to get together or something i don't know i don't understand how it takes that seems like a
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Yeah, I agree. And there's a way to bring it back, I'm sure. But even now, because they've got some, you get some kickbacks. But it's better if you can just plaster Condom Depot and get $100,000 on the back of your shorts.
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Oh, yeah, that's silly. Yeah, I get what you mean.
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If you have rubber guard or flexible hips or whatever, you can just bring your leg and boom. Anderson did that to someone. Who did he do that to? What's his name? Yoshinokami, I think. You should have called me.
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Yeah, he got disqualified and not in the UFC. Oh, was that in Rumble on the Rock? Rumble, the yellow cage. Yeah, so that was a good knockout. But then they disqualified him.
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Look at the way he just brought that back.
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But I used to think it was funny. It was funny. And the fact that it was on the back of the shorts, I'm like, that's placement. Advertising.
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The one I like, soccer kicks, it just looks cool. But again, if you have someone pinned against a cage and they even need them, and was it one they go... Okay.
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I don't even know what the discretion of the referee is to allow it.
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Then he doesn't allow it. Exactly. Okay.
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If you're in an open space. Soccer kicks go.
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I think the thing as well is the look of it for, I guess, the people who aren't really hardcore fans. If they see that, they're like, ooh, and then it goes back to human cockfighting.
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Even the one you've actually, was it maybe you at this fair, you mentioned it with the Murab fight. They stood them up somewhere at the end, and I was thinking like, yeah, why are they standing them up?
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Ah, I think I pick up what you're putting down.
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Okay. He's trying not to put someone under the bus, but he's saying like, look, maybe someone's saying to him that. Exactly.
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That's actually a good idea. Like, say, approve sponsors. Okay, these guys. Or maybe they go through a check first.
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I saw, I remember and I was like, yeah, he's on top. He just got him down. He's actually trying to beat him up. Sean was defending well, but still saying, ah, true. That'd be interesting though. That would... That's, when I say interesting, that's like shady. Yeah, it's shady.
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You want to maybe advertise on the fighter shorts. You have to go through this rigorous check. What's your company? You know, what do you guys sell? Right. Right, right, right. And then, yeah. Plastered on the shorts to get some money.
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Yeah, and then you work so hard to get something to the ground and then they go, okay, stand up. Yeah. I'm trying to think, have I ever been in the position that they made me stand up? No, not on top. But even on the bottom, I always get up. I find a way. That's the ego thing because, again, look, I had to kill that to really be great at this game because I knew for a fact.
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I couldn't beat some nerds in pajamas. So that was for me my, okay, humble yourself and learn how to grapple. And then I sucked at first and I got better. I never have shown too much of my grappling skills because they never really put me in a position to show as much as I need to.
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So for me, I was just like, cool, I'll just fucking do a Derrick Lewis, stand up, get up and just beat him up as much as I can. But yeah, fuck. That is suspect if someone is... I actually want to watch that. I'll watch it later on.
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Damn, that's suspect. Yes. You found it? Again, that's cryptic. Cryptic.
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If he goes as a referee, blah, blah, blah, blah. But, I mean, if that's what he said, I trust your recollection of it, but if that's what he said, that's still very suspect. You don't want to get this game. This is one thing about the UFC, it's as real as it gets, or MMA itself. This is what it is.
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Yeah, he was a badass. I like tassels, though. That's what I mean when I wear my shorts. I always like tassels because when you kick, the way they shimmer, the way they look. And it just makes for cool pics.
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But if you have that happening, then that's starting to seem a little bit like, you know, not to take away, like, it's the WWE or anything.
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And where a fighter... And the referee is the guy officiating the fight. So if he's getting word from someone... Right.
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When he says someone, it's like, who is that someone?
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Yeah, I'm like, I'm biased. I'm going to be like, nah, fuck that.
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It does make sense when it comes to pure fighting. Because even, bro, even Pride had 10-minute rounds, the first round. That's cool. I'm saying, look, some things...
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like I'm glad this they've taken out the way but again bring back tournaments just for one night let's see who's a real like who's a real badass yeah that would be crazy I've done a kickboxing I've never done it in MMA I've done it in boxing
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But I might bring back a tournament, so let's see who's really about this, because we have to fight, get the adrenal dump, then you go back and sit down, sit down for ages, and then eventually have to warm up again. I remember that. I've done it a few times. I've won a few of them. But it shows this.
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And pride as well. We did that a lot. But yeah, that'd be fun. I think even for like, oh, they did it once though.
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The UFC did it once with the flyweight, the inaugural flyweight title. And I think it was Mighty Mouse and Ian McCall in the final. No, I got it wrong. They fucked up the decision. Because if there was meant to be a draw and they'd have one more round in Sydney, I think. Yeah, and they were meant to, but then they gave, they fucked up the decision. But that would be crazy though.
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They go, okay, cool. The judges have it this, that. It's a draw. We're going to one more round after a crazy fight like that. That would have had the whole place just cool.
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But again, now for certain fighters, they're changing it, which is good, but hopefully that trickles down.
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Yeah, I've had that too. But that's where this comes in. Yeah. You have to just like, cool, let's go. Get back in the corner.
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Yeah. Ice on the floor as well. Yeah.
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It does happen. Like I said, even with me pointing at the ground in that moment, any small lapse in judgment, you just need 30 minutes or 25 minutes of focus. So in that point, yeah, I can see how that would get to him. Yeah, that would get to him because you're like, what the fuck, they're about to screw me out of this one.
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Anderson versus Bisping when Anderson thought he won and was on the case celebrating. Right, right. And then if, I think it was Herb or whoever, would be like, yo, get down here, this and that, right, right, right.
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I literally went like, because I was front. I went to 300. I'm such a fan. I was there from the first fight. That's why I like to wear that as a badge on. I'm like, yeah, I was there, and I watched that, and I was just like, why? He had eight more seconds.
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I think he's also really talented as well. He's fast. He's smooth. Like when he fought Dan, you heard that shit. Yes. That kick when I heard that and Dan grabbed his waist and then Dan had his neck at the end of the round as well. I lost my voice in that one.
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Yeah, I've seen it. It happened to me, even with the... What's his name? Brunson. In the Brunson, he grabbed my tights. And I was like, yo, that's two times you've done it now. So it is tempting, but I think tights would be the best way to fight. But again, some guys have cool shorts, and if that's their style, that's their style. Because some people, I guess maybe they're body type.
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I love it. I love who he is as a person. Cause look, Dan, he's, I see him every day, most days. And he's a guy that you don't know what to expect. Like, I don't know where, boom, he just customized himself for all these tattoos.
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That's badass. Yeah. He just covered himself. I think he's in Spain. Cause do you know Oscar? Well, you know, Oscar Willis, the Mac life reporter, he's fighting bare knuckle. This weekend, I believe, or maybe next weekend in Spain. But Dan's going to go there and corner him.
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No, boxing. That's not for me. I can fight. Look, if I had to get into a fight, whatever, sure. But for me... I'd rather not. I'll pass on that. But that's the kind of shit that Dan loves. Dan's like, yeah, let's do that shit. He wants to do that shit. He wants to be like, yeah, he just loves fighting.
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I just don't like the knuckles because you see, again, moose knuckles still there. This can cause more damage, like cuts. Yeah. Oh, yeah.
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It slices you open. Exactly. Guys get sliced up. So if gloves, I guess they protect. The new gloves as well, I think... I've only fought once in the new gloves now. I might give it maybe one or two more. But I'm like, the old gloves just, they didn't really protect. The wraps protect your hands, but the old gloves, they felt like rubber, like tire rubber.
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And I think they were just dangerous, like dangerous to hit with. If you hit someone with those, it's like bang. These new gloves, they feel like a little bit of a memory foam.
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Softer. And I don't know about this whole curve thing. They don't really curve. I can still do that.
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I try not to do that. I'm a, you know, whatever. But still, this. I'll wait and see.
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I've never seen them yet. See if you can pull them up. The Onyx? Is that the Onyx one? I've got the big ones, but I've never, ever had.
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Maybe they got no ass. They don't want to be... I got something back there, but like, I don't know, a guy like, I won't drop no names, but like, you know, wearing tights, you look like a fucking stick or something, yeah. Yeah, you look a little flat. Yeah.
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Has he ever brought this idea to the UFC?
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I've got the big ones, but I'll hit them up, see if I can get those ones, just to try them out.
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Yeah, I've seen him stitch them. He's passionate about it. But, yeah, these new ones, so far, fighting with them, I still prefer the old ones.
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Yeah. I get it. I get it. I don't like to get hit, so maybe that's why I'm biased with it. But when I hit someone with those, I feel it causes more damage. And I mean, I can cause damage. I cause some damage on DDP with those ones, but I still want to try them maybe one more time just to feel them. They felt different. Yeah, felt different. I can definitely tell.
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Even the wraps, when I was squeezing my wraps into them, I was like, okay. Just took a while, but it still got in. But I'm like, all right, cool, grab. I like to test the grip strength to make sure I can hold someone, but... Yeah. We'll see.
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Also, it would prevent joint manipulation.
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Yeah, small joint manipulation. It's almost like a webbing.
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Like you said, like those bag mitts with the thumbnail.
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Then you got toes. I've seen people get kicked in the eye, even in training, and infected the eye as well.
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Yeah, I've seen that. Toenails. But, nah, I mean, that makes sense. I mean, it just, I think people are scared of change.
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Even with these new gloves. I think it's maybe, that's why I'm trying to be like, let me give it one more shot. I'm not going to say I'm against them.
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I just feel, meh. The other gloves were just, they had that thing on them.
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I'd do that, too, if that happened to me. PTSD. Yeah, fuck, man.
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Yeah, and it's not just a freak accident. Right. Because even just grappling, I try and keep my nails, like... Trim, just because I don't want to, I've done it before by accident on someone and I've caused, I think I had a collar tie and then they did something and then, and I got, not on me, on them. It's happened to me as well, but I felt bad when I did it on a person.
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I had their skin in my nails and I was like, yeah, my bad. So again, yeah, cut your nails. But still, that's not a bad idea. I would fuck with that.
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Yeah, that's right. Fuck, yeah, I can imagine. You can change the culture.
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Same thing like having glove size. I'm sure someone will make it now. Has someone made that before?
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That's a money-making scheme right now. If someone decides to make that and then put it out there as a prototype, be like, look, this actually works. Train with them, and then they go, I'm patenting that. Boom.
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One of my boys, Nate Law, he just fought in his, I think, third pro fight. The guy had a leg lock, and Nate posted this quote from Chill Sonnen after the fight about if a guy is holding onto your leg, just posture up and punch him in the face. And that's what Nate did and won the fight. So, yeah.
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I mean, the whole leg lock game, I know some stuff with X-Guard and whatnot, but I don't really fuck with it too much because I get scared because the commitment when I hold on to someone's leg and then you're just exposed. Unless I'm like a Craig Jones type who I just know. As a wizard.
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But even the fact that he doesn't speak English, that's also his superpower, just shama. Right. What do you think about that fight this weekend? I can't wait. I just did the breakdown for it. We're about to drop it on YouTube now. I am picking, in this fight, Alex. Because I just think the momentum behind it.
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This is fine. This is fine. This is fine. And it's gone.
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If I'm rolling with people, if I don't trust that person, or if I just feel like, I'll just go, yeah, cool. Tap. Because ego's not worth it. I don't try and hold on to shit like that.
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Yeah. Of course. So that's for me. It's not even... If I go to a new gym, I pick and choose who I go with. And it's not like an ego thing because I don't want to get my ass whooped. It's just like, I don't know you well enough that... And sometimes you see people, they salivate. Like, oh, this is my chance. This is my... I got my shot now.
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But now sometimes in grappling with some people in the jiu-jitsu class...
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oh shit yeah I just go nah I'm good thank you and I'll get someone that I actually trust cause yeah it's not it's just I know the feeling as well cause I'm sure someone will tap me or do something or I'll just let go and then it's like that I know when it's real and it's genuine like good job and I know the one when it's like they're like, yeah, I'm going to tell everyone about this.
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Here we go. But again, that's the thing when I talk about ego, and I had to kill that before I started training grappling because it was just, I sucked. Like, nah, I get taps. One thing I definitely will get is a submission in the UFC before I'm done. I will choke someone out, like a guillotine or a red naked.
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I like guillotines, but it's learning how to find the sweet spot for me, the sweet spot when I get it. And when I get it, Even a bulldog choke, I get really good at those. Some, I can find the spot and I just, because I got the frame for it. The best person at our gym, Dan Hangman. That's his shit. He grabs your neck, you're going like, it's like, yep, find a way out. You can't? Cool, tap.
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Yeah, I like using guillotines though, especially on wrestlers because it just lets them know, okay, this is always a threat. This is always a threat. But again, it's something I've been working on. But eventually, before I retire, you'll definitely see me get a submission.
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Yeah, that was 2015, I believe. I even sent a DM to Dana saying, just give me one shot. Just get me to the cage. I'll do the rest. And look, I would have, but I'm glad I took my time. And it was good for me just to fight different people from Ukraine, China, Brazil, all different types of places. And then...
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I experienced different styles, and that way I felt confident enough when I got to the UFC. My first fight, shout out Rob Wilkinson, good guy, good friend of mine now. And yeah, he tried to take me down constantly, and I was able to withstand that because of the work we did. And Andre, Andre Paulette, my wrestling coach, a lot of drills, just drills, wall work constantly.
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What year did you start that? What year did you start grappling training?
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I started in 2010, but I was meant to go into MMA straight away, but there was just so many kickboxing fights, and I kept on getting kickboxing fights that it was just too... Also, I like fighting kickboxing, so I was just like, I'll just take this fight, take this fight, but I was always grappling on the side, like low-key grappling on the side.
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And eventually, I think... I can't remember what year my first MMA fight was. Would have been 2014, maybe, or 13. And then I started taking it more seriously. Like, I'm a purple belt now, but I'm like... I'm a purple belt. I know I'm dangerous, but it's like, I'm not like... There's levels. There's levels to belts. There's some purple belts, blue belts who can kick my ass, you know? But, yeah.
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I do enjoy it, though. I love grappling. I like... I feel like a ninja cat when I'm grappling and I'm on that flow state. I just feel like I just... It's fun to play with, but then, again... I've only ever shown cases or brief, like, again, who's one? Not just the Pereira fight in Madison Square Garden. Gastelum, I had a triangle on him. Tavares, I had a guillotine at the end of the round.
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Some other ones with the Kimura traps. But, yeah, just no one's really put me in that position to make me have to, like, really use my offensive grappling. But, again, when I get taken to the ground, I'm just like, fuck, I'm just going to stand up.
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That's a good question. Fuck. Okay. Money-wise, probably ego. because I just knew a fucking nerd in pajamas could kick my ass. I just, I can't have that. Honestly, it's just, I just know like some dude can beat me and he doesn't have to even throw a punch.
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In the back of my mind, it's still, that's why sometimes when all these, you know, boxers, you know, like back in the day when it was UFC versus boxing or whatever, I was like, well, this is real fighting. Like, you want to see what a baddest person on the planet is?
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fight right no one's telling you you can't use your weapons but you want to take away all my weapons right that's why i don't think i'll ever box again because i just think it's too limiting even kickboxing i feel like it'd be really hard for me too because it's too limiting I do like aspects of grappling that I can use in a fight. But yeah, nah. I like full-fledged fighting.
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I think it's a healthy ego. I just knew I have to really humble myself so I can learn how to fight these guys at their own game. So yeah, that's why.
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Yeah. They just did the one in Denver for 1FC recently. Went well. And the fights are crazy.
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A lot of knockdowns. A lot of action-packed stuff. But if it was just marketed the right way, with the UFC's marketing machine, easily, easily, it would be one of the biggest leagues.
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You know, John Way passed out of that. I think he did.
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I watched both fights with Brad Riddell, I think. No, the first one with Brad Riddell. The second one, sorry. That was the one I watched at cage fighting.
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great fight crazy fight even though john lost he just showed me who he is but yeah i think he did start cage muay thai yes that was his thing i think it was his thing he should have fucking trademarked that shit yeah well muay thai with little gloves is different too right because you know there's blocks you can't use you're just shielding like a dutch style i remember with the big gloves i always talked about it as well i always felt my striking was better framing me
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I always felt it was better for MMA because I was like, nah, if you can just do this, that's, yeah, you just block whatever hit. It's just who's tough, who's tougher. But with the small gloves, you can get around the guard. The hand traps are different. So I always just felt like, yeah, my striking would excel better in MMA. I wasn't as, not I'm tough, but I wasn't as just like...
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Tough for no reason. Yeah. Thank you. Like, I like to use my brain.
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So I was just tough for no reason. Like, boom, boom, boom, boom. Okay, hit you, hit me, hit me, hit you, hit you. Yeah. That's not my style. I always felt I was slicker, the way I moved, the way I set traps. And that's why I like MMA striking better.
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My item right now is so big. He's just got momentum. Look, I was the most active champion in UFC history. I think next to Alex Volkanovski as well, he was right up there with me, or if not more than me. I think Alex now is on his way to being the most active champ in UFC history because he's already saved this year, I think, two or three cards alone.
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I think it's his culture. Is that what it is? Yeah, I think it's the culture of the stock. I've seen some of the gym spas.
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yeah zero dollars like what do you get paid in glory what are the best fighters get paid in glory like what was like uh i wasn't getting paid that much what does rico verhoeven get paid to defend his heavyweight title i think he probably gets more than most he's still in glory right yeah okay yeah yeah i kind of fell off them after they robbed me off the fucking belt i was just like yeah whatever okay yeah oh the jason wellness fight yeah yeah i thought you won that fight too
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Probably not now anymore, but then they stopped giving me fights. And I was like, look, I have seven more fights on my contract. Can I at least just get three? I just need three because money was running out, you know, the money I had saved up. And then, yeah, I was down to my last one day, like $500. And Eugene was holding pads for me. You could see something was up.
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Yeah, I know. It's one of those things. Look, I'm glad things happen the way they have in my career because it always gives me an opportunity to come back or rise again and showcase my spirit, my fighting spirit, not just in the cage, but as a human being. So all the things that have happened to me in my career when it comes to losses or setbacks, I just go, cool. let's see what I can do next.
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Yeah, like even, look, the DDP fight, Strickland fight, what's another one? Well, Pereira got that back. Yanwan, I feel like that was a side quest. I'm just kind of like, man, that's cool. And I never hold on to them. I never hold on like, I need to get this. It's like, nah, this is fine. Like the Alex one, I was cool if that never happened.
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But then he decided to chase me, and I was like, cool, let's do it.
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I think he's already in his 40s, early 40s.
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Yeah, maybe because he doesn't make as much noise because I don't really see him on there as much anymore.
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Yeah, nah. Go see fucking what's-his-name Briggs. But yeah, I'm glad I got some today, though. Thank you for that. I actually feel better.
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Not from the stem cells. I like them from the drip I got earlier. But yeah, the stem cells. The ones I had in my... Uh, my ankle. Yeah, they worked.
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He's like stepped in and be like, yeah, I'm Sharma. Just does a jumpsuit.
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Even Briggs was just talking about what he said on here, just going at them, and that went viral, which is good. I just told him, bro, put out a tweet and say, I will never, ever kill myself, ever. Yeah. I think that's a smart thing to do.
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When you start fucking with those guys, pharmaceutical companies, they'll find anything. Yeah, you get the plane crash. Whoopsie. Oh, how did that happen?
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Fuck. There was one. What was the one for me? I put that tweet out one time because I kind of got a little paranoid. So I did this interview with Oscar Willis, right? And I started talking about the whole, this is when Epstein just got arrested. And I was saying like, well, Epstein just got arrested, right?
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And then Oscar goes, yeah, it's funny how the Johnny Depp and Amber Heard case is getting more attention than that. And I'm like, crazy, isn't it? So this Epstein guy just sold kids or whatever, trafficked them to these rich oligarchs and whatnot. And I was like, what happened to them? What happens to those people? Where's the list? And then I didn't think anything of it. But then it went viral.
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And then every year since, it goes viral at least twice or three times. I'll see it just circulate again. And I'm just like, oh, fuck. So then I went on Twitter. And I'll say it again. Look, I will never, ever kill myself. I've never even come close. I mean, we all think about it sometimes.
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Like when I was working this job, you just have like a passing fleeting thought like, oh, if I just jump over this bridge and hurt my leg, I don't have to work for the next six months because I hated my last job. But I would never, ever, ever, ever kill myself. I'm not that... I'm not built that way.
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And I've been there before when, I think 2013, I realized, is this how people feel before they kill themselves? Like how sad they were? And I was like, man, that's sad. That just made me feel sad for those who actually go through with it. But yeah, anyway, I would never kill myself just in case.
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And the fact is that— No one's been tried.
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Yeah. But I'm saying now this year, it's kind of crazy how this year started off with, what's his name, Cat Williams on Shannon Sharp. He starts talking, spilling the tea, sipping the cognac, and then now this whole P. Diddy thing.
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God protects me. I'm so glad God protects me because Look, if I got invited to the white party, I'd have gone. Especially if you didn't know. Of course. No one know. No one knew.
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And I just want to be there having fun partying. But then they start to, apparently, they said they were using, I'm going to guess it's like ketamine because they said horse tranquilizer. And they're putting in people's drinks and the champagne and then getting them all loose.
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I'll tell you a secret. It's just us two, right? Yeah. After I knocked out Pereira in Miami, we went to Tootie's the next night, and they were like, yo, P. Diddy wasn't here watching your fight last night. I was like, wait, word? Crazy. And I went and I checked my DMs, and I saw, oh, shit, he hit me up. And he was talking about two months later, I want to do an interview or whatever.
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And I said, here's my manager's number. Bop. Cool. Nothing ever came off it. But again, that's why I say God be protecting me.
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Because who knows? You never know. Oh, yeah, we're having this party later on. Yeah, that's cool. Cool, cool. And then they start to like, you know, you find some chick, you pull on you, and then boom. Oh, how was that 15-year-old? Like, wait, what? Right.
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a thousand also by the way that shit lube coconut oil is better fucking water based lubricant but baby oil is acidic as fuck johnson and johnson's like that's demonic bro like why would you use baby oil even if you're fucking dudes nah
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One, two, three bottles of baby oil.
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But again, that's what you have to do. Look, when you get in the UFC, this is what I did as well. He did it the right way. Fight as much as possible. Fight as much as possible so you can be in people's faces so they can see. That guy just fought. That guy just fought. Oh, I just saw him fight last month.
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Nah, man. Oh, the fact they said it was fucking, what do you call it, Costco, and Costco goes, nah, we don't sell that shit.
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That's a serious crime. But again, see, he's in cahoots with Epstein.
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Or was it just a similar type of an operation? They were friends. Really? Yeah, because Epstein had a fucking... On Miami as well. That really private, rich estate in Miami. So they were all in cahoots as well. But again, I think he's going to sing.
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How would you... Even Kanye. Imagine you trying to tell people something. Right. And then no one believes you and they call you crazy. I'd go crazy just trying to explain to people. Even... I can imagine the frustration, the frustration of trying to explain to someone and you're like, no, this is really happening. And they're like, yeah, whatever, you're this and that.
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And I went down the rabbit hole in 2020. I'll tell you, I did. I had to. And for me, it was just like I could see the fuckery. Look, this is... The mark of the immigrant, it's right here. If you look at any immigrant, it's just like that little dot. It's a keloid. It's from a vaccine we all had as kids all over Africa. I can't remember what it was for. So I'm not opposed to vaccines.
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But when someone's trying to force you or coerce you or whatever into... taking something that, you know, something just doesn't feel right about it. You know what I mean? But again, I grew up in Nigeria. I know how corruption works. So, I mean, I'm a law-abiding citizen. You know what I'm saying? I did my part. Whatever. But still, I just knew something was afoot. So I, yeah, I did my part.
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I played the game because it's all a game. I got offered different ways to play the game. But I was like, I'll find my own way. And I did. So, yeah, stay pure, which is good.
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And you fight as much as you can, and you get that momentum behind you, and then you become champion. You're that guy. And then again, you're just that momentum constantly. You're in people's faces. You're getting posted here, here, and that's how you build a stock up. So I've done that, and he's doing it the right way as well. And I think if he keeps going...
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And then now, with all the information that's coming out, all the deaths. I saw that show, Die Suddenly or whatever.
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And you see the blood clots from the same time that the vaccine got pushed. Excuse me. And then everyone just goes, oh, well, carry on with my death. It's like, again, I'm frustrated in a sense, but I don't say it because I'm like, we fucking told you. Yes. But then... I don't need an apology. No one needs an apology. But it's kind of like everyone just, oh, well, I guess that's that.
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And then carry on with their fucking life.
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I moved through life, and I feel like, look, we are all born as players in this game, but everyone gets kind of programmed through schooling or whatever, education system, society, and then they just become bots. And I can see it as well. Because when I was bringing it up, and I would say something—
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When people I really love and trust sometimes and they did instantly, they call it agent Smith syndrome. And they decide, no, actually this and that, right, right, right. But you know why that is?
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I hope he retires never getting defeated by anyone ever again. Just you.
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Must be just, you know, the food people are eating. People just ignore it. It's just money. Even some people that did get it, they tell me they regret getting it.
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So many times they say, I regret getting it. But I had to because if not, my job was going to fire me. Then I had to. And the fucking gaslighting thing, our former fucking prime minister, she did. I don't believe we coerced anyone into getting it. I don't.
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And you just, I'm like, bitch, you literally said if you can't, if you don't get this, you can't go grocery shopping. Can't go to restaurants. You can't do that. Can't work. So your livelihood gone. But then we didn't, I don't think we forced anyone. We didn't force your hand. Like when people do, that's the ultimate form of gaslighting. You're just like. In our face.
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They still try to superimpose that sepia kind of filter over you. The one that got me, because we still travel during 2020, I did four of those MIQ quarantines. The one where you go back to your own country and then you have to quarantine in a hotel for two weeks before you get let back into society. My coach usually did nine, a lot of those. He even told me Israel, that last one.
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Look, it's the story behind it. No matter what, it's just the history. Because David even mentioned to me, my brother said, you know you're the only one that can actually stand with that guy. No one's lasted more than two rounds or even a round with him. And I thought about it during the breakdown, like, yeah, you're right. And it's because I knew him. I have fought that guy so many times.
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Luckily, the last one, he was able to do it in his house, but then his family had to go live somewhere else for two weeks. He was just grateful he had it in his house. My last one... I remember I went outside for our fucking daily outside for, what, 40 minutes or whatever. Sometimes we'd get shipped onto the playpen on a bus, like prisoners or whatever.
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And then I remember everyone was doing these circles, just walking in a circle. And I almost did a full circle one time, and I was like, what the fuck am I doing? And then I went back into my room and I stayed in my room for the remaining 11 days because I just felt like this was too much. And then also the one that got me was third one. This lady had a kid and she may be paraplegic or whatever.
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She had a neurological disease. And then the kid had a seizure. while the mom was having a smoke somewhere. The kid had a seizure. And one of the guys went and helped the mom with the kid. And the officer that helped the mom with the kid, they put him in quarantine for three days because he didn't have the correct PPE gear on. So that let me know...
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This isn't about Looking after people it's about punishing this guy for disobeying the law because he didn't have it So we're all someone's having a seizure hold up miss Let me go put on this fucking overall and take my gloves on race while this kid's dying exactly And they put him they punished him for that so that let me know like okay. This is fuckery. This is a foot I
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He couldn't see his daughter for like two weeks. Eugene had the same thing. He had a newborn at the time. So I have a picture of him with his wife and his son on the other side as well. And then you're just separating families, all that kind of stuff. Look. I like my alone time. I love I might seem like a social butterfly and I am. I can do both. But I love my alone time and I like being inside.
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But when you have too much alone time, that's bad. I didn't like that because then you start to go in your head with all these other things. I mean, I didn't go crazy, but I was dancing on the edge.
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But just for like a month, I think, OK, look, every year, at least for two weeks or even some places, maybe a month. Just shut everything down. Everyone go. It was good. But you get to spend time with your family or the people you live with and realize, do I fuck with these people?
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or do i not and they also built like build relationships and relationships things like that the whole world got better the fucking ocean got cleaner so i think it's good lockdown was good for that when it was okay but not for extended periods like six months or whatever that was terrible for the economy even a lockdown for a month is terrible for the economy it takes a long time to recover oh sure when everything seizes and you're not getting any packages and like right now there's a
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And regardless of what happened, I lost three times and I finally won one. It was just the fact that I knew I could beat him. Every time I fought him, I was just like, I was beating him.
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Yeah. We'll see. When did that start? Like a week ago, two weeks ago?
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Interesting. I always like it when, look, I love America, but I like watching it from New Zealand. Like, when I come here, I love the food, like, the fucking, you know, Shake Shack, just delicious. Like, last night, it took so long for this burger or something, Austin, to get to our hotel. But then when it got there, we just smashed, like, all these smash burgers. I ate three of them. So good.
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And I go back home, and I eat clean, and I get my body right again. But... Here, I love it. Even when Trump won, I was stuck here in San Diego for about eight weeks. That's when I went to Atos Jiu-Jitsu and I got really, really good at Jiu-Jitsu for a while. Me and my teammates, we just thought like when Trump wins, we need to have food for four days because it's going to be fucking crazy.
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I felt so too. But then that's, you know, the Chinese judges. That's the kickboxing fight. They gave it to him. And then the second fight in Brazil under the same company, then he gets me. But again, I was besting him. Had him on skates. He was fucking... And then he... Bro, his spirit. You know what Jerry said about the whole juju thing? Like, that's real. That's real.
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Because from where we are in New Zealand, The camera only shows you this. So Trump wins. We're looking outside like, okay, it's safe, cool. Nothing's really happening. We see Trump flags on someone's lawn, Biden, whatever, on someone's lawn still. It's fine. But then someone explained to me that even the Capitol riots when – And DC, they face the cameras this way.
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If you just turn the cameras this way, you'll see the rest of the street just normal. So from New Zealand, when we see what's happening here, it's just the biggest, craziest sitcom. And again, like I said, I love America, but I like watching it from New Zealand. But I do enjoy being here. But again, watching it from New Zealand, we have our own chaos to deal with, but this one is just juicy.
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Was this before or after? After. After. Okay, I see.
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I missed that completely. I didn't even know about it.
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But again, how do you gloss over that? The one when he got shot and he just turned his ear.
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There's so many things fucked up with that. You know why? I mean, I'm sure you've already talked about this with other people, but it's just the fact that they apparently saw him on the roof for, what, nine minutes or something beforehand and just watched him. So many things.
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Now it's about the debate. It's about the debate.
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So the last time I fought him in Miami, look, he beats me. That's why I hate when people say, oh, is he scared? He's scared. It's like, bro, I ain't scared of shit. The guy beat me in the biggest... arena on the planet, Madison Square Garden, same way as the last time he beat me in Brazil, in his hometown.
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See, this is what I like. I just get the popcorn. I just go, yeah.
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That's the whole magic bullet theory. Again, I've gone down that rabbit hole to a point where I saw that it might have been the driver.
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Fuck, I saw this video. See, you can't trust shit these days. No. Bro, I swear next year. I think next year it'll be when it's like you have to really know what you're watching. I'll have to question everything. Because now it's fingers, text. I can kind of, oh, that's a bullshit. And also there's a little texture. There's a texture with the AI videos. And I'm like, that's AI.
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I'll take a piss as well. Talking about my documentary. It's great. So what were we talking about before? Oh, we just went on a tangent about fucking chemtrails and shit. No, but I was just telling Jamie about my documentary. I said, like, he should watch it as well. I said, even if it wasn't about me, I'd still recommend it because it was a well-made, not-so-sporty, sporty film.
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Like, one of the best pictures I got sent was this lady knitting on a plane and then watching it. And I thought that was like an old lady, not her demographic, watching MMA. She's watching me through the documentary knitting because it was something that... It was different. Yeah.
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They came on board in 2018. We started talking. And then they came on board with their cameras. But Jeff St. Leo, who is my videographer, works for Zuck now, literally does everything but yeah he had a lot of behind the scenes footage and we just put it all together talking about my kind of rise in this game but also dealing with the i guess the pressures of all this you know
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I was beating his ass, had him hurt in the end of the first round, all that shit, took him down, and then he gets me in the last round. It's his spirit, his whatever, like, ancestors or his people that are praying for him, because I got prayer warriors as well.
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There's no book on how to be famous. I had to learn this on my own. I had to learn this myself.
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For me, I think people. I just didn't expect that. I knew I wanted to be... When you grow up, you think, I want to be rich and famous. The MTV Cribs era, the Pimp My Ride era. I thought, yo, when I'm rich, I'm going to have seven cars, one for every day of the week. I'm going to have this many houses. I have real estate now differently, but also I only need two cars.
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There's all these other stuff that comes through. Also, I'm not a car person like you. I just like Hot Wheels. But I can buy one of them.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. My best reaction when I wrapped it was I love seeing little boys be like, when they see it, yeah. But now I've put it back to black and I'm gonna do something different to it later on with some airbrushing. Not me, my guy Matty Bro. But yeah, it was just people.
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There's even a bit in this documentary where they were just filming one day and then these kids are like, they just drove by my house like, And they beeped the horn. It kind of gave me a fright. And they came to my door. And then the camera was filming. So it's in the documentary. And I explained to them, oh, that's cool. Let's take a photo.
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But then it got to a point where it'd be like 9 p.m., 10 p.m. And then.
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Oh, a Starbender home. Because my house, my front door was accessible to the street. That was my first house I ever bought. Now, David lives there. That's his home. And I live in this fucking complex that has a gate and a code. So if you have to get to my front door, you have to be there. And, yeah, just dealing with people was the main thing for me.
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Because I didn't expect the attention I was getting. I was expecting it. But I guess the variable of the unknown. So... Yeah, I just had to learn how to protect my energy and protect my, some boundaries.
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Like today after lunch, excuse me, I'd say yes to photos, but if I feel like, say I'm at the airport, if I say yes to, you've had this before, we say yes to one and people are like, oh, he's taking photos and it becomes like a zombie apocalypse. And I'm like, yo, I got to go somewhere. So if I tell someone like, yo, I can't right now. If I say yes to you, I got to say, oh, please just one.
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My mom and dad be fasting, and they have people, like, in the spirit praying for me, but, like, the way he carries himself, something about him just... He knows how to recover well. So I just knew I could get him. I could get him. And then after that, he knocks me out in the biggest arena in the world. And I'm just like, let's do that shit again, Dana. Because I just knew.
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And then I'm the asshole. And I love my fans. I love people who actually support me. And I try and make time for them. But then also I have to make time for me. Because I've been there before where it's pretty much I'm just there. And then on my turn, my turn. I'm like, bro, I'm not even having fun. I don't even have kids yet. But when I have kids... that's when I'm going to be like, nah.
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Thank you. For me, if I go on a date or whatever and someone sees me and tries to take a photo, I just go, I'm on her time right now. You have to ask her. Or if I'm with my family, I just say no.
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I think it's social awareness, this day and age, and everyone. And you know what? It's funny. I can feel it coming once they see me because they look like they're about to pull out a gun.
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That's what it feels like. Every time they do it, I'm just like, and I say yes to most of it, but there's times I'll say no. So that would be, I'd say, the most difficult thing so far was just dealing with people. But, again, I do like people, but also I don't like some people. Some people are just so entitled.
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They just come up at you, and it's just like, bro.
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You're not even a fan. Sometimes it's this thing where they just see people taking photos. I want a photo, too.
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Who are you? Yeah. Oh, yeah. I love that. You know why? I like it when someone doesn't genuinely know who I am. But when I'm sorry, I don't know you. It's OK. My name's Israel because I got to meet them on a first name basis. Right. But one of the best ones and the best replies I gave one time was these three chicks and two guys, they were just, you know. oh my God, fan, fan, fan.
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And one of them was like, excuse me, but who are you? I was like, I don't know.
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Yeah. And then she came back again like three more times. She's like, excuse me, but like, who are you? I don't even know who you are. And I was like, bitch, I don't know who you are. And then her face was just like, and I just left it alone. But again, I prefer meeting people on a first name basis. Right.
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It makes me feel like I get to know you and you get to know me without some preconceived notion of what you've seen on TV or YouTube.
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Train by day, Joe Rogan Podcast by night. All day.
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And I just said, bro, I'm about to be broke, this and that, right, right, right. And he said, don't worry. Just leave it with me. I get home. I think I was on the toilet. And he just goes, check your bank account. And I'm sitting there just like, start crying. And I call him. He's like, no, don't thank me. Thank Ash, who started Engage. And I call Ash. I'm taking a shit.
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I learned that the week before the Robert Whitaker fight in Melbourne. So I had this epiphany. And then did the fight, did well. And again, you know how I told you after my UFC debut, it was all this attention and stimulus. And when I went home, boom. Right. And for like a month, I just felt sad. And I'm thinking like, nothing's wrong. I'm so fucking, like, I should be happy. I should be happy.
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Right. And that's when I started going to therapy. But then I learned through the techniques and tools I've got from that how to protect myself. So before the rub fight, I felt the same thing again because my girl at the time had to drag me away from the after party because I hid in the after party. I hid in the toilet. I had a drink. Jesus Christ. Put all the seats down, just sat there.
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And she's like, where are you? I'm like, I'm So I just sent her a text, and she's like, nah, I'm coming to grab you. So we went to go get ramen somewhere. And then at the hotel, before I flew out, I just put out something in my story saying, look, guys, I appreciate the love and all that. If you see me, you can come say what's up. But if you come yelling at me, I'm just going to walk away.
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It's the yelling thing. And I think that's learned behavior.
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Joe Rogan! Same rhetoric. I'm a huge fan. I've loved you since this. I've watched you since this. And it's the same, like, bought responses.
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NPC responses. And they're yelling. But if someone just comes up like, hey man, I'm a big fan. Do you mind if I take a pic? Cool, let's go. And they make it quick. They're ready. They're not going, oh, excuse me. What are you doing here?
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I'm just like, yo. Don't hold me hostage. Let's just go. Like, take the picture. I like those. But if we have a genuine connection and I vibe with someone and we end up talking for, like, five minutes, even better. But you can't try and facilitate that. But, yeah, it's when people come. And then they hang around. And then they won't leave. Yeah.
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And I'm just, don't hold me hostage with your conversation.
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You. I did something real silly. Yeah. You will remember this. And this is another one of those things. I can tell you now because we're boys. But I met you at UFC 192 when Dan fought Yair. And I met you backstage at the weigh-ins. And then I came to say what's up. And then I did fucking bot shit, bro. Then I was like...
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And I was like, oh yeah, let's take this picture. And then for the next like five hours, idiot. Why'd you say that? And I just felt cringed. I got over it eventually. But again, it's one of those things that you learn. Yeah, certain things I learned. Even with Snoop one time at Staples Center, when it was at Staples Center, I ended up smoking with him. But then I filmed it.
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And, like, I always say this, the shower is the most interesting place on the planet, I feel, because you have the element of water running over your body, stripped naked in your bare essentials. You kind of have this, if it's a white shower, like a void, white space. I can create a lot in there. I can make a lot of things happen.
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And then afterwards, I remember thinking, like, why did you do that? You should have just enjoyed the fucking moment. And I cringe at myself when I'm like, ugh. Who doesn't want to fucking smoke with Snoop Dogg? But why did I have to film it so I can show people? Did I post it? I did post it. Yeah, of course I posted it. But again, it's one of those things I learned now.
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So there's people I've met, places I've been now that I enjoyed the experience and it is what it is. I don't need a photo. It's in here. I've taken snapshots.
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You don't remember that one, do you?
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Good. Oh, for the next five hours or to the next day. I think the fight's here the next day. I was just like, okay. Then I kind of got over it. And I just think, and I told Chris when I went home, I was like, yeah, I told him about that. And I felt so stupid. It's like, oh. But I know now it's better because when I meet people I really appreciate, I don't geek out or whatnot.
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I'm just like, yo, that's that person. I kind of birdwatch them. And if they recognize me, one of the coolest ones was Eminem in Saudi Arabia because everyone was trying to get a photo. And then my guy, Ike, security just goes, hey, Em, Israel would like to take a photo. He goes, oh, yo, what's up? And he came and took a photo with me. And out of everyone, he let me take a photo with him.
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So I was like, yeah, I felt cool because it's Eminem. You know what I mean? So things like that I'll appreciate. And certain moments like that I appreciate. But I don't. I don't force it. I don't try and facilitate it. I just let it be. I just let it be. And if I get it, cool. And I don't need it. That's the thing. You don't need to take a photo for everything. Just enjoy the moment.
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Enjoy the interaction. Enjoy the energy.
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I'm better now. The coolest one I think I had was Trump. What was this? Vegas at the fights. I haven't even, the clip was one of the UFC's thing, documentaries. And someone was like, oh, yo, America's Last Hope, what's up? I dapped him up. And Dana's there just smiling. And then we're talking. We just dapping up and talking. And then he's like, enjoy your fight, this and that.
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And it wasn't weird because, again, I can understand. Like, I'm meant to be here now.
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Sometimes I get imposter syndrome. Sometimes it still creeps in. I don't know if you still get it. It still creeps in, but I know how to identify it now. And I go, right, I'm going to shut it down, like any emotion. Yeah, that was one of the cooler ones I had where I was like, okay, I handled myself well. I wasn't an idiot. And many other ones. But, yeah, the ones... And there will be more.
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And, yeah, one time after one of my showers, I just wrote this thing on my mirror because I just had this premonition, like, this is where I get it done. Like, there's no way. You could beat me one time. You could beat me two times. You might beat me three times. But I was like, nah, this guy's not going to beat me this time. And I just knew I had to get this done.
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I felt that a little bit yesterday. But... I went to the mothership a little bit, but again, you watch it on YouTube all the time. You're like, oh my God, me and my wife's like, we're here. This is cool. And then only for a little bit, but I realized I'm meant to be here because everyone's standing around me. I'm kind of having to hold court, but I kind of just want to shut up and just be like,
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Yeah. But everyone's around me. And I was just cool. And Ari was the man, bro. He's just such a funny dude. So tall. And talking about kickboxing with him. And, yeah. I'll probably head there tonight, see what's up. And I'll try and not geek out so much.
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You guys did it, man. You literally, I think it was Ron White that kind of started the idea, and then all of you started to just march to Austin one by one.
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I just came back from LA, so the contrast is definitely, you can see it.
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Excuse me? When you say that, you mean like, do people have to pay other comedy clubs to perform there?
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I've seen it. Cam Patterson, some of these guys, they start there and now they just... Killing it. Yeah. Hard work.
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And for someone like me, just a fan of comedy in general, it's fun to see the process of them starting up. Because I used to listen to Kill Tony, my old job, just so I didn't go postal. I'd just sit there with my headphones in and the hoodie on just to hide it so they don't know I'm doing it. And then now to see where it's become and then where on the street is it coming up. And I'm like, oh shit.
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And the way it happened as well, because first round I think I won. And the second round I was winning. But then that fucking leg kick, bro. You know what it is? You look at his foot. You look at this bit of his foot.
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So it's going to be on there and then it's going to be even bigger. It's fun to see that. And I've seen a lot of comics just grow. And then seeing their sets develop, all that kind of thing. And look, I know how hard it is now, just watching that. Because you think, oh, I've made a joke before. I can do it. Nah.
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And seeing people bomb on Kill Tony after just 60 seconds, I just like, yeah, nah, fuck all that. I'd fight in front of millions of people, but to stand in front of a crowd and try and make them laugh, just that, yeah.
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It's so rare. I've seen people throughout the walks of life in gyms I've trained at that I'm like,
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i think you're better than me but they just never made it they never got the experience or the exposure also when the lights are on they shut down yeah and they don't show up i'm like you're better than what than this but again gym champions yeah yeah that's a real thing man with people that perform so well with no pressure and then when that pressure is on they're like 30 percent of what they are you see them make the mental mistakes you see them rush in and it's it's
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It's like a hammer. You know, like the back of a hammer, or a hammer like a ball, it is, because that's what he kicks you with as well. So he doesn't have to, excuse me, he doesn't have to turn the hip over. And then when he hits you with that, even, because he's bone density, long legs, and he hits you with that, you just feel it like, ooh. That's bad. And it's a different feeling.
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weird it takes skill to learn how to perform under the lights but also you have to have that thing like you have to know you're that guy or you have to have that belief in yourself so again i'm glad i've done it and i'm glad i'm doing it but now i'm just like i just want to fight i just want to fight have fun and again it's weird like i just know that fucking gold belt always circles back around i don't chase it never have and i knew it would always be there at some point
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But, yeah, it will. And in the moment, bro, if I'm not happy with what I've done in this game, what's going to make me happy? Right, right.
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But I still feel great. And again, you know when fighters talk about, I lost the belt, I felt this pressure lifted, whatever. I never felt that when I lost it in MSG. I was just like, I'm going to fight this guy again. And I got it back. But then when I lost it... Not to Strickland, but ever this last one is the only time when I was just like, eh.
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I wasn't a champ, I guess, but this last fight was the first time I felt that like... Well, but I still feel like I'm that guy because a lot of people still have that target on my back because I'm Israel Adesanya. But having to fight for the belt, having to fight with that thing, I don't know. This is the first time I've ever felt that where I'm like, meh, I'm good.
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So I'm just going to see what happens. Train, get better, and fight again at some point.
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Yeah. Yeah. Because I feel like when you have the title, there's spotlight on you. There still is a spotlight on me, but it's not the same thing. And now I get to enjoy a little bit more, almost freedom, in a sense. Well, I've heard fighters talk about it heaps. So, again, for me, I never felt it until recently that I'm like, oh, I get what they mean now when they talk about the pressure.
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The pressure's still there, but it's not the same. And I'm like, cool. I get to just fight for me now. I get to have fun.
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I want to try some crazy shit. I actually want to fight and just do some... I want to go back to the way I used to fight when we didn't have so much on the line. Because it's not just about me. It's about the people that are around me that I have to... Not have to, but, you know, like, if I do good, everybody eats. You know what I mean?
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So now that we still do good, we still eat, but it's like, ah, fuck the belt. We'll just have fun. So I just want to go back to having fun. The way I used to fight when I was a young fucking schizo fritterer who just did shit for fun. Like the fucking Tavares fight in the round one, I'm like, I'm going to try a Minari roll.
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And I kind of missed it. But yeah, I'm going to bring that back. I kind of want to do that kind of shit again.
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It didn't at first. But the longer you defend the belt, it happened to Anderson as well. It happened to Anderson as well. I saw it because I watched Anderson's rise. And I saw even to the point where people wanted him to lose just because he was so great. And then it's just that natural thing where people build you up because they want to tear you down. And I felt that happen to me as well.
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Because I've been kicked by kickboxers all my life on the thigh, on the calf as well. But when he hits you with that bit, it's just the surface area is so small, but it travels and transfers through your whole calf. And you're like, oh, I can't put weight on this.
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They're like, oh, we just want to see him lose. And when it happened, they're like, yeah. And then when I won it again, it was like, yeah. And I lost it at like, yeah. So it's just natural. It's natural way of, I don't know, the mob of humans or whatever, the fans. It's just how it is, the Coliseum.
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Someone rejoices when a great man falls.
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It was a great quote he had in one of his specials. The cowards. Yeah. Yeah. That's the truth. Yeah. Facts. I've seen it.
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I've even felt it as well. Like when you're just like... I wonder what would happen if he loses. Like, it would just shake the whole landscape of things up. So you just wonder. Like, I felt it. I think with Floyd, I just wonder. Not that I wanted him to lose because I'm a big Floyd fan. But I was just like, what would happen if he lost this fight? Like, oh, shit. But that's what makes it exciting.
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You never know. But, yeah, anyway, I'm just here now and I'm just like, cool, let's have fun. Let's fight. Let's just get some good matchups. But, again, I'm in a spot now that we've got Rob comes out fighting. DDP and Sean are going to fight. And I can't think of who else. Is DDP and Sean set in stone? I think it's not set in stone, but it's what they're looking at. Yeah.
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Next year sometime. But I'm trying to get something in this year. So we'll see. There's already a few call-outs here and there. Like who? The guy that just won in France. I forget his name. Not the main event. Imanov. Yeah, he said something, and I'm like, we'll see. It'll be a good fight. It'll be fun. But again, what has he done? He beat Brandon Allen. And is that five-round worthy?
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Because I'm never doing three rounds again. All my fights are probably going to be five. If I ever do a three-round again, fuck, let's go.
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Yeah, that's when some people come alive.
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Yeah, I can't do five, but again, I say three, I just feel like I would fight like,
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like a bat out of hell i just feel like it would be different but again it's not even i i do enjoy the the time in the cage but even training for five round fights a lot of people train for three rounds fights but they don't understand everyone wants to be champion so you got to train for five rounds and it's like oh you got to do this you have five rounds of the spider circuit oh that's where you find out the men from the boys you separate
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And so it's so sneaky. He doesn't have to because he's got so much bone density, so much whip from that little... And, yeah, it's dangerous. And I think that's going to be a problem this weekend for Khalil. But I don't know why Chael says he... Did you hear about what Chael said? Yeah, Chael said he thinks Khalil's going to knock him out. That's possible, but...
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I don't know. Like I said, I thought I would be 34 and I'm done with this. I always just thought like, yeah, when I'm 34, I'm done. But then I'm here now and I feel great. So I'm like, let's see. Three more years, who knows? Who knows? Fucking kid might come out of nowhere. I'm like, oh shit, I'm done with this game.
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Oh, yeah. Strickland and DDP. Strickland won definitely because that fight was not me. And again, I don't make excuses. It was just another Dave Chappelle quote. You have to realize when it's your time. He's such a fucking philosopher with it. He said something about like when it's your time, you have to know and be humble enough to know when it's someone else's.
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you know what i mean that was just his week that was just his and everything so i just you know his time let him have it but i i definitely know what i can do and i took his best shots and i just know like yeah i can take this guy i know what i can do i'm not similar to the perera one where i you know i was winning but this one i definitely know what i can do with this guy
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Yeah, straight punches, looping on linear punches. He caught me good. And in the moment, I remember thinking like, Oh shit, this nigga's hitting me. Oh shit, he's hitting me. And I went to Mark Goddard like, you see the picture like, I'm okay. And then even he told me my next fight with DDP is like, don't do that. Don't have to do that. You just have to find a way out.
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But it was hitting me and I was thinking like, oh shit, this is really happening. Fuck, and I had to fight out the position and just get back on him. But yeah.
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In that exchange, nah, not really much. Just the one shot. The one shot was the one that got me. But the rest was just kind of like nothing really got through. It was just a lot of flurries. And it looked violent. But that's why I was able to look at Mark and be like, yeah, we're good. But, yeah, got to come back. See what happens with him and DDP. He could win, you know, beat him.
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Yeah, it was close. Very. It was close. Very close. Yeah, that was a rough fight. Even at the end, they were just swinging.
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Well, we'll see. We'll see what happens in that fight. And yeah, at the moment, I just, look, I kind of like the feeling of not knowing because sometimes people ask, who are you going to fight next? When are you going to fight again? I'm like, I don't know. I'm just chilling. So again, I'm just going to keep training and... Sometimes short notice shit happens, you know what I mean?
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And it's like, well, I'm already in shape. Fuck, let's go.
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Yeah. But we'll see. So stay ready. Yeah, stay ready. Like I said, I've done the testing already and I know where I'm at. After this, I'm going to go get some work in. And yeah, even on the road, bro, I love this food there, but fuck. I know when I get home, I'm going to have to take all this off. And I know it will come off because I've got, you know, good nutritionists now and stuff.
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Yeah, they have. Just even the food there, I think the quality is different. But also, I try to stay off Uber Eats as much as possible. Now I have Matt cooking for me. So if I want something, I'll see something on the reels. Matt, can you please make this? He'll be like, yeah, cool. Boom. And he'll just make it that night. And you don't have to wear no bullshit in it. Yeah.
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But I just don't think he's, it's possible, but I don't think he's going to get it done because all it takes is one. From either side, but I just think Pereira right now has just got that momentum behind him and the frame because he's going to just avoid the shots Khalil's throwing because he's just got the long frame. He'll get right out the way.
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In camp, it'll be healthy. But right now, I can stretch my legs a little bit. Add some cheese, whatever. But... Yeah. I just stay ready.
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Even recently, we had Cam, Aaron Toe, and then Navajo fight on the Contender Series. Navajo was the only one to get a contract. He got it with a hook, actually. I don't know if you saw that fight. I didn't. Yeah, Navajo Sterling. He knocked out the guy in the second round. So now he's in the UFC. He got a contract, and he's going to fight this year, I think in December.
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So he's already in camp for his next fight because he was kind of fresh coming off that fight. So, yeah, he's another guy that, that's him, yeah, the guy in the red. Big Nav, boom. And they set him up. Boom. Boom. Out. And the guy I fought was tough, too. Came strong in the first round, but Navajo was able to put him away. Another King in the Ring champion as well.
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I think he's two-time King in the Ring champion.
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So he's the guy. My Miami fight with Pereira, he helped me a lot. Ben Johnston helped me a lot with the looks, you know. But, yeah, he's just a fucking savant at the next level. kickboxer, but knows how to grapple. He looks at shit, downloads it, drills it, and he's using it on you straight away or the next day. He's just one of those guys. And he loves to fight.
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He's a guy who just stays in the gym, stays ready. Like I said, he's got a fight already locked in. Even Loser's got a fight. Ozdemir. He's fighting Ozdemir in Macau. You know, what's his name? No Time.
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Yeah, Volkan Ozdemir. Yeah, that's a good fight. I like that for Carlos. Uh... Who else? Yeah. So I like the gym, the way it's growing, even on the local scene as well. You have a lot of guys who are just coming up in the local scene and they're looking at us because of what we've done. No government funding, no backing from the sports, what do you call it, in New Zealand.
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They try to stifle us during COVID, you know, moving the goalposts. Or you can quarantine in the gym. Okay, now you can't quarantine in the gym. We're sneaking around trying to find places to train. They're following us with reporters, taking photos. Putting us in the papers, making us look bad. We're disobeying the law. Think about your grandma. All that kind of stuff.
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So, yeah, we've done it our own way. And we're still one of the best gyms, if not the best gym in the world. That's why I'm there. Only reason I'm in New Zealand is because of City Kickboxing. If not for that place, I definitely would still be there to see my family. But I would have probably moved... All over the place. Like Melbourne, I definitely would have lived in Melbourne for a while.
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And I don't think Khalil has the reach to mess with him like that, so he might have to get inside, but... Yeah, we'll see. This is why paper can't fight paper. They have to get in there and fight. So we'll find out.
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Like Melbourne, I love Melbourne, Australia. Canada somewhere.
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Yeah, Melbourne. I just like the culture, the food. It was here in Austin.
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That's why you got to play the game, Joe.
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I play the game. It's almost egotistical in the sense. Ah. The rules are there for a reason, and I am a law-abiding citizen. But sometimes there's certain things where I think, like, the laws doesn't apply to me. You know what I mean? That's why I don't follow politics. I only ever voted recently in New Zealand because of the fucking referendum. They were going to make marijuana legal.
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I was like, okay, that applies to me. I'll vote for that. So what do you call it? One policy voters or whatever. Mm-hmm. The other laws and stuff, I'm like, man, unless if it's something crazy, like someone decides, oh, we're going to tax the rich 50% of their money. And I'm like, that applies to me. Then I'll vote.
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So when I say the law doesn't apply to me, it's in the sense of like, I don't really care about what their policies are, you know? So yeah, that's how I live. And I'm able to travel a lot, which I'm grateful for. But yeah, if it wasn't for CKB, I definitely would have left NZ. Or maybe traveled more, checked out Europe or shit like that. But right now as I'm fighting, maybe after fighting I will.
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New Zealand is beautiful. Oh, it is. Beautiful spot to live. I like the pace. I do like the pace. And, again, I like watching America and the rest of the world from New Zealand because it's just like this little corner of the world just like chilling and just, oh, yeah, Kiwi, mate, g'day. You know? And then, yeah, just see what happens to the rest of the world.
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And we still get a lot of things happening culturally that are relevant to the world. But, yeah. I definitely want to travel after fighting, and I get to travel. I'm in fucking Austin, Texas now, you know, talking to you. Where was I? After this, I'm going to New York. Yeah, I'm sure I'll be somewhere else on the planet at some point, but yeah. What do you think you want to do when this is over?
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So I have a plan in place because I know me. I'm an adrenaline junkie. So I know I'll need something every, like maybe thrice a year where I feel like I'm going to die. So one of my plans is... That's such a crazy thing to say. But I get it. That's why I have a McLaren and, you know, I've never crashed it. Amen. But, yeah, so for me, like I skydived twice already in the last year. That was fun.
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So, again, if I said, okay, I'm done fighting now, then, okay, the running with the bulls, cool. Let's do that. And I'll just train for that. And then when it's time, I'll go to Spain or whatever and get ready for that and then go run with the bulls. Cool.
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Yeah. That would be fun. It's dangerous. You could die.
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There's many fighting as a dumb way to die, too. But it's glorious. It's glorious. It's a glorious way.
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Yeah, but I mean, what do I have? So what's another one? Okay, let's say I go to the outback. Go learn, I don't know. to jump on a crocodile and save it from, I don't know, there'll be something. I'll find things. There's always something. I'll find something to do that'll make me feel like my life is in danger.
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Because if not, you just fall. A lot of guys, they come back and fight again because they miss that, oh, I was that guy, I was that guy. And those especially who never made it to the pinnacle or what they wanted to do, then they still have that dissatisfaction. And then they come back to try and reclaim that glory, do it for less money. And then they fall short.
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They become journeymen, become alcoholics, drug addicts, you know, shit like that. So I don't want to also, who knows? My main thing, though, is definitely start a family. That's one thing I want to do after fighting. It'll happen. I don't go looking for that shit because when you do, you find the wrong thing. And I've made that mistake before. We're not going to make that mistake again.
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So I know it'll happen for me. And when it does, I'm going to be a great dad. You can't convince yourself that it's good.
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I got talked into one. That's the thing. So now I know I'm like, okay, bet. You got talked into one. When you fall in love, you just... Stupid. Because I'm such a lover as well. I'm so soft. But I learned my lesson. And again, it's one of those things you just have to go through. And I'm grateful for the experience. I'm grateful that I did because now I know exactly what not to do next time.
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So that's why I don't look. I'm single because I just enjoy myself. I enjoy not being responsible for someone else's emotional state.
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Because she has a fighter. Right. Because you know this. You know fighters when they have to deal with shit before a fight. Before the cost of fight, the shit I had to deal with. And I was quarantining at the gym as well. So that kind of stuff I don't want to deal with. I just want to focus on me.
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Not that bad. At least she knew better. But still, it's just, look, it's more about also don't try and compete with your husband or your boyfriend. With me, you'll lose. In a sense, this is what I do for a living. You don't have to try and compete. It's weird. When someone tries to compete with their person or whatever. I know.
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But the thing is, what's good for me is good for us. What's good for you is good for us.
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If you're a team. So, again, if you're a team, I'm learning and I'm not looking because I think that ship sailed in the sense like. When I look at someone like, say, even O'Connor with Dee Devlin, that's fucking cool. I love that. She's still with him to this day. They've got how many kids together? That's cool.
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Regardless of what the state of their relationship is now, it's like, look, she was with him when he was no one, and she believed in him. That kind of stuff is rare these days. When I see it in other people, I'm just like, they still love in the air, Joe. Sometimes it works.
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It's the looks. It's like I'm here. I'm almost Prince Nassim-esque, but different. It's like looking, looking, bang. But again, he's just violent. When he smells blood, he just goes in. Like I said, he beats you like you owe him money or something.
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I'm just chilling. I actually got on Hinge the other day just for fun in L.A. I was like, let me see. I hate these apps. I don't use those. I tried to get on Raya. They still have me on the fucking waiting list for fucking the last two years. I'm like, am I cool enough? Oh, that's hilarious. But I went on Hinge in L.A. just to see what's up. But it's just funny.
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It's just funny to see the experience. I had a couple of interactions. It was cool. But I was like, ah, this is what people do now. It felt like the questionnaire to get on Hinge. I thought it was going to be like this thing, cool, cool, cool, put some pictures up. I'm like, am I trying to do adoption or some shit? Because it's like, what is this? And what is your primary focus?
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And I'm like, I spent like 20 minutes doing the whole thing. So it's up now. I still have it on in Austin. I'm like, ah.
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It's like after a game of rugby or whatever, cool. I don't know how the... the fucking the brackets work or whatever, even in basketball, football, soccer. But then you get to play the next day or the next, not the next day, sometimes the next week, you know, fighting. It's not always like that. And also if you get hurt, you get hurt badly and you suspension six months and you have to wait.
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And then if you don't, if you're not strong mentally, I've seen people break. Yeah, I've seen them break. And that's just like, fuck, come on, man. You can, you're better than this. So yeah, for me, fighting takes everything. It takes everything. And I've done well in this game. And sometimes in the beginning, I didn't give everything.
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So that's why now that I'm at this age, I'm like, yo, give everything. So that way when I'm done, I just know I did everything I could to be the best. And I was. And I'm proud of myself. So, yeah, I'm still here, man. Like I said, I'm not fighting for fame. you know, a belt or anything anymore. That'll come around when it does.
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Yeah, very violent. But again, I think Khalil, for him to win this fight, he just has to believe in himself. That sounds real cheesy, but... believe in himself. Also, he's a Southpaw. I didn't think about that. I actually forgot about that until David mentioned it before, but he's a Southpaw. But I'm sure Alex and his team know how to deal with it.
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But it's just, I'm just fighting just because I, I have, bro, a submission is more worthy to me than a third belt. Like, I'm gonna get that.
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Yeah, I'm gonna get that. It's gonna, and I'm not gonna look for it. It's gonna present itself and I'm gonna get it. And I'll be like, right, I take that off, cool. Because I've done a lot of cool shit in this game. It's more like just the highlights. And I just know I can. So that's more worthy to me at the moment. And that's like a maybe ego thing or personal thing.
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Like I said, right now I say three years, but I'll be 38.
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I think GSB stopped just around there as well, 37 maybe.
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Yeah. But who knows? That's what I'm saying. I don't think I'm going to fight at 40. I think that's not me. I'll be, nah. Even for me as a person, I'm like, nah, I'd rather be doing something else. But 38 right now is in my head. Who knows? Fucking 36, 37, I'm just like, right. Peace. I'm out. I'm spontaneous like that. But I think 38, 39. But let's see. Let's see what happens first.
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Like to do with your time? Apart from raising a family, production. I definitely want to have my own production company and do stuff like... A couple of acting things, of course, because they've already come up and I turned them down because of this game. I was like, you know, you have to give everything to this game.
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I don't want to spend three months somewhere filming, you know, this kind of stuff. But definitely motion capture. Definitely want to do that. You know, what's his name? The guy that did Andy Serkis, Planet of the Apes, Gollum, Caesar. He's one of the best at it. And I see the way he works and operates. And I just, I know I can do that. I can learn. And I'm very coachable.
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I can learn stuff like that. Voiceover work. with some cartoons or animes or whatever, video games, motion capture stuff. I'd like to... I have my own ideas of things I want to bring to fruition, but I don't necessarily have the skills. Even though I was doing computer graphic design for about three years, I knew how to... make a red ball bounce in Maya, the 3D program.
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That was my biggest achievement in that. But I can partner up with someone on studio and just bring my ideas to life if they like it. I'll learn how to write a script maybe so I can present it properly. Also, fuck, all this shit with AI, I might just be able to do it with AI in two years and be like, right. Boom. And if it hits, it hits. If it sucks, cool. Do it again at the drawing board.
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But yeah, a lot of things, a lot of things. I already have, again, shout out to my pops. My pops is a real OG because he helped me just triple and quadruple my money. Yeah. Because if I didn't have him, I definitely would end up.
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But I understand how Alex deals with southpaws as well because I can fight him both ways. When you give him that front leg and he knows he can get it, he gets more confident. But if you're a southpaw, he finds other ways to keep you at bay until he can get that leg.
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Like, honestly, just intense. Because, you know, I mean, I've been there, like, nothing and had everything and nothing again. So for me, yeah, he's always been a guy that's been in my corner. And me and Alex Volkanovski now, we've helped raise the brand so we own part of the company. So yeah, I like to rep the set. Oh, that's cool.
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As one of those sad stories, I feel just because of who I am as a person, I feel like I would have ended up as one of those sad stories because of the trust I have in people. So I'm glad I have my dad around just to like... Just make sure things are cool.
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There's always vampires. It's just human nature. It's human nature. I'm sure you have it as well on the way up. And even now, I'm sure you have it as well. But they always, they come out the woodwork. And it's like, let me see. But then my dad's able to tell, this is legit. This is shit. Let me have a look at this first. He goes through every contract.
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I can read, but sometimes, because I'm dyslexic, I read really slow or I just lose focus and shit like that.
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Yeah, but I just get, like, unless it's something maybe fiction that entices me and I can really go deep. But I like reading comics and shit like that. But a contract is just detail. But there's one person on this planet I trust that wants the best for me is my father.
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Amen. Because even I've said this, guys like Habib, rest in peace to his pops, he had him in his corner. Michael Jordan, he had his dad in his corner on the court. My dad is in my corner, but that's on the stuff that really matters outside the cage in life. When I talk about imposter syndrome, I'm like, how the fuck do I have this many houses? I'm doing well. Cool. I know I'm adulting.
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but that's because of my pops and i learned the game through him but the details of the game i still don't know yet so after this i'll have more I guess input in the sense that, okay, this and that and this is what this means and that, you know, with the property values and whatnot, I try not to get too much into it because right now all I can focus on is this, fighting, the main thing.
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If I don't have this, then, yeah, I can definitely tap into all that kind of stuff. But now I'd rather just focus on this and let my dad handle it. So, again, I'm grateful, so grateful that he's around and he's the one that's helped me get to this point because a lot of people don't even have their dad in their lives, you know, and I'm glad I do.
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I am. Look, this is life. You know how it is. Ups and downs, smiles and frowns. But right now where I'm at, I'm in a good place. Way better place. Because again, the thing I didn't like... I appreciate it after my last fight. People come up to me like, hey, man, that was a great fat last fight. Oh, you did well. Thank you.
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But when people come, because I was at the buffet in Perth, and some guy came up to me just like, hard luck, man. I was like, what? He wanted to feel sorry for me. I was like, nah, get your fucking shit off me. I'm like, I'm good. I'm like, bro, if you knew how much I made from this fight, you wouldn't even feel sorry for me. But some people don't know how to react, so they come like...
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I know, but I like the... Again, I don't fault them for it because they don't know what to say, but the ones that come up and be like, bro, that was a mean fight, man. You almost had him, but that was a fucking good fight. I'm like, thank you. I felt good in that one. It's a different look on the same thing. Some look at it with like, yay, and some look at it with that.
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But I'm in a better place because, again... This isn't everything. Fighting's not everything in my life. I've lost many times out of fighting, you know, and I've come back. I've lost in fighting many times, and I've come back. So for me right now, where I'm at in life, I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying the ride. And, yeah, I look forward to the future. I look forward.
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Nah, that's not for me. I've been there before and it's not for me. Everyone is different. And I understand that when it's like, because even when I was on top of the world, you know, like number one and this and that, it never defined me. I never let it define me. I always knew. I was Israel Adesanya before and after the belt. I'm still me.
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No matter what, they're still going to be trying to fight me because they want to have Israel Adesanya on their record. They want to fight me. They don't want to fight the champ. People will probably even pick a fight over me than DDP, or maybe not because it's probably an easier fight, they think. But still, I'm me, and that's never, ever going to change.
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That's never, ever going to change as long as I stay true to me. Yeah. Look, if this game was going to change me, if money was going to change me, it would have done that ages ago. A lot of zeros ago. But I've always been this guy with or without money. You can ask anyone who really knows me. They'll tell you, oh, yeah, that's the same dude I was dancing with back in the day.
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Still the same goofball. Keeps the same energy. But now that I'm here, I just have a lot more freedom to do things that I want to do than I'm grateful for. But, yeah. I even look forward to seeing who I become next year, like who I evolve into next year. Because, again, I am me, but learning. There's things I'm going to learn about myself. I'm sure you have this as well. Jamie has this.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
We all have this. We're just figuring out who we are. What are you now, 57? No way.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
He's so fucking big. He still can. But look, it only works until you get knocked out. And it's like, all right, bet. And let's go to 205. And I said, look, all these 185ers should thank me, man. Honestly, I tell, thank me, because a lot of the top guys didn't have to fight him. He fought, okay, who did he fight?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I thought I was going to be married with two kids at 23. Wow.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
If you zigged when you could have zagged. Yeah, I'm glad I zagged. I'm glad I zagged for that one. That was so long ago, and I was, again, I'm soft, bro. I'm surprised I'm fucking great at this, this fighting shit. Like, I'm soft. Do you see some idiot try to step me out? Do you ever see that? No, what happened? So this is two weeks, three weeks ago.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I had a great, great day at training, morning training. Went to the shop to get a pie, and I just thought, you know, people were just showing love. I'm just, oh, hey, what's up? So I'm gonna take a picture. Cool, cool, cool, cool, cool. And then one guy just pulls up and goes, yo, Izzy, let's go, one out. I'm like... And I thought, like, bro, this is stupid. I was like.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
So one outs in New Zealand slang, like, one on one. Like, one outs, let's go. And I was like, this is silly. Like, what the fuck? And I just started laughing. And I said, bro, I get paid millions for this. I'm not going to whoop your ass for free. And then he kind of got angry. And he's stuck at the lights. It's green. People are honking, driving around him.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
And I'm laughing, walking away with my pies in my hand. And I remember just looking like, what the fuck? And I grabbed my card and I went. And that pissed him off. Then he drove and then parked in front of my car. And I was like, okay. Took my watch off and I told the guy, can you please call the cops? And I'm glad only one person actually decided to help.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I saw just a small clip of it. I didn't know exactly what was going on. Just an idiot. But again, I'm glad this is the day and age of people just boom, cameras out. Because everyone who was around, everyone got their cameras out. There was only one guy who used his phone to call the cops when I asked him. because I didn't want to hurt this guy.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
And this guy, I don't know if he was going through something or he was maybe cracked out or something. Because even the guy, the video that came out, it seemed like it was set up because the guy kept on going... And I'm like, what are you trying to say? And I'm glad I... Like I said, I'm soft. I have patience. And if I had a bad day, it might have been different.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I like to say that because of freedom of thought. But also my friend, you know, Falvake, got killed by senseless street violence. This is something that we've talked about even in the film. It was something that we all had to go through because... He got hit with a coward punch and then hit the ground and then boom, he's in a coma for about two weeks and then eventually they have to pull the plug.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
As I'm talking to this guy, at one point I go, bro, I don't know you. Whatever has happened, I don't fucking know you. I'm sorry. And he's like, yeah, talk to me nicely, bitch. And I started getting angry and then got to the point I spat at him. And that was me, like, I hoped he did something. And then I'm like, right, I'm taking this guy out.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But then when I spat at him, he just looked down and kept on talking. And I realized, you know what about this life? I'm not going to spend the next 10 minutes talking to this guy.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Strickland, that was one of the only top guys he fought, beat him, and then I think he got a shot at me next pretty much. But yeah, fucking Rob, Driggers, all them, because it's not about just fighting him. Getting ready to fight him is a different thing, but I had to do it fucking four times, so I understand. I have a different history with it.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Oh, he took his shirt off at the end. I got in my car. I was driving off. He had his shirt off, flexing, like, what, bitch, what?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
So for me, again, that's why I say I'm soft. And I had to... I had to really hold myself back. I don't know, I'm sure, no one tries you anymore, of course. They'd fucking be stupid to try you, but I was thinking no one would try me anymore, because back in the day, if someone would try me, I'm like, bro,
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Try that to Dan Hooker. Dan would not have the patience that I have. Dan would fucking instantly demolish that guy. But again, I just don't want to do something. Because if you breached the line, I was within range. And within my rights to strike him because I feel like what happened with your friend.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
And also we started this charity walk without fear. And I'm glad nothing happened. I'm glad I was patient because now that video can be used because we're trying to change the laws. Look, the guys that killed my friend when we were in lockdown, they were on home detention. So they're free now. They're walking free, enjoying their life. And my friend is dead.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I think one of them did, but the rest of them, they had home detention. The ones that actually even helped, they got home detention. And I think for a year and a half, so six months of that home detention, we all did it together in lockdown. So what kind of punishment is that? You get to sit at home and watch Netflix. And my friend's daughter has to grow up without a father. For nothing.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
For nothing. Just because ego, alcohol, drunk, this and that. So again, I'm glad. I'm soft, and I don't like confrontation. But when it's time to get down, I will get down. And I've put it out enough. I want to protect my boundaries and shit like that, but I don't ever want to be put in a position where someone tries to set me up just so they can make money off me.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But there will be a point if someone tries me enough that I will have to definitely defend myself. And there's no fucking referee in a street fight that's going to drag me off a person in that. I see red, bro. Not that shit. I'm just kidding.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But, yeah, I'm glad it worked out well for me, and I spared a life that day, because if not, it would have been really bad, and then I might not be here. Right. I might be in a fucking cell somewhere.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I know these motherfuckers in NZ, like the bureaucrats, they don't like people like me. They don't like people like me who is outspoken, who is not a quintessential Kiwi, you know what I mean? The guy that just keeps quiet and, yeah, you know.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Just very humble. Fake humility is something I've never been. I know humble is what it is for real because I deal with that every day. I fucking spot Carlos Navajo. I grow with Dan. I get humbled every fucking day. So I know what real humility is. But for me to try and let the world know I'm humble just so I seem like I'm humble, that's that fake shit and I'll never be that.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
For me, getting ready to fight him, you just know you're going to be in for a war. You know it's not going to be an easy fight. Same for him. He knows when he has to fight me, it's like, fuck, it's not an easy fight because he knows what I can do to him. But for me as well, I was just like, fuck. Okay, let's go again. And again, it's not like, because I feel that way with certain people.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
So when I see people do that, I'm like, just be real. I try to keep it real as always. But again, like I said, I'm soft, but sometimes.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
The magnifying glass of the world. And I would never change. I'll never not express myself the way I always do. But sometimes the world will try and put you in a box and be like, this is what you're meant to be. This is who you're meant to be.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Bro, like, what was the one I put up the other day? Because there was a scene from my movie. I was getting my nails done. I was like, what was I doing? Some drip tips. And then I put a clip next to it where Cam goes, well, I've been wearing pink my whole life. Niggas been saying I'm gay. Bro, if you think I'm gay, bring your mother around. Bring your sister around. I fucking loved that.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I was like... Yes, because, again, I don't care. It's never been an issue for me. I think people think because I never flexed my girlfriends or anything online, they're like, nah, definitely, this guy's sus. Also because I'm nice and I'm soft.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Being a nice person makes you sus. Yeah, because I'm not a dickhead. So silly. But I can be a dickhead. I have been a dickhead in the past. But, again, I'd rather – I was raised right. My family actually, you know, my mom and dad raised me with good morals and And, yeah, I treat people with respect. And even if I don't get it back, it's like, cool, whatever.
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But, yeah, people expect you to be this kind of, because you're, oh, man, you're a lot different than I thought you would be in person. Well, you're not trying to fight me, so no. You know what I mean? People expect you to be some type of whale.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Look, there's people you can find who'd be like, yeah, he's an asshole. And I was like, well, yeah. But who are you? Yeah, exactly. I was an asshole.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Facts, facts. And I'm fine with that now. Because back in the day when I first came into this game, I always felt like I had to, with every fan, I had to put on this song and dance.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Well, sometimes I might be at a four. Or five at energy level. So if someone pulls up on me, I'm just like, yeah, cool. Let's take a picture. But I don't have to ham it up to make them feel like this is a great experience. Oh, he's such a nice guy. It's like, bro, the day my cat died, I was pumping gas and the guy tried to make me talk to his cousin on the phone. And I said no.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But with him, it's just a different feeling, I guess, because he beat me. That's another thing. And I was like, man, I got to fucking face this demon again. All right, bet. Let's face my demons. and I get myself up to fight him. But it's just getting ready to fight him. It's just the hurdle. I think maybe just because of the history. That's why for me I felt that way, because of the history.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
And he's like, oh, all good. And I felt bad. And I was like, oh, give me the phone. And I'm there with the phone. Pumping gas. And I went, bro, no phones. I was like, get the fuck away. But I did that because I felt bad that I didn't talk to his cousin on the phone while I'm pumping gas. So what would happen if something happened and boom? Or what?
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Because I wanted to talk to this guy's cousin on the phone because he saw me at a gas station while I'm pumping gas. So when I talk about protecting my boundaries, it's just about time and place and approach. People not... And I've put that out enough where I feel like people do respect it now. But some people still think I hate fans or whatever. But I'm like, that's what you think.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
If that's what you got from my message, then cool. You think that. But it's about protecting my energy and protecting my boundaries.
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Bro, I'm a fan. I pay for your pay-per-views. No, you don't. You're just talking shit. Oh, the ones that is when they come, bro, I bet on your fight, eh? I'm like, yeah, fuck your multi. Because, again, I put my life on the shit. Every time I step in there, I put my life on the line. But they will never understand that.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
They'll come and tell me like, yeah, bro, one time, this was years ago, and the guy showed me a betting slip. I was like, and? This is after a yarn fight. He showed me a bill. I'm like, cool. Like, what do you expect me to do? Give you a refund? Right. He's like, nah, fuck you.
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If you ain't got it like that, don't put your money up. Right. I only gamble with money that I'm going to lose or I can afford to lose. But again, yeah, I'm fucking gambling with my life.
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I'm trying to win. And then something bad could happen and I'm not here again, you know? So, yeah, people are weird and I love people. Like, I always say this. There's something about every group of people on this planet that I love, including my own. And there's something I hate about every group of people on this planet. Just little things, little things that just annoys me.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I'll say like, okay, Nigerians. I hate how the elders sometimes confuse respect with fear because that's how I grew up. They confuse respect with fear and I've had to deal with that. You know, I'm not going to say anything else about anyone else because they know it's like, oh, Israel hates these people or whatever. But again, I love people. But at the same time,
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Because to fight someone who's beaten you multiple times, it's like... And you know you can beat them. In your heart, you just know. But again, that's the beauty of the story.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
That actually hit. Thank you so much.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Nah, yeah. I can say the same about you. What you've done, everything from the day, Dawson, since I've met you that you don't remember, and I'm glad you don't remember, to now, even being friends with you. I like being friends with you. And also, I don't... Because you still have a job to do, and I never want to put you in a compromised position.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I always still have to respect you and what you do, and I still kind of keep my distance a little bit. But I always respect and appreciate every time that we've interacted on Hangout and, you know, who you are as a person. So... Thank you.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
Let's go. All right. Let's wrap it up. What else? Watch Stylebender. I'm watching.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
10 seconds left. But again, that's the beauty of the story because then he waited until the fifth round or got to the fifth round. He's just like... Did his fucking juju, whatever thing, and then fucking... He just had this energy, and he came at me, and then my leg was compromised from the leg kick because of the perineal nerve or whatever, and I couldn't do anything. So, yeah.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
But, look, I love that story for myself, and I'm happy. And people still go, oh, when you're the third one, I'm like, look... I do it again. I fucking knock him out. Or no, it's 3-2. We got the best out of seven.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I'm not fighting for anyone else. I only have so much left in this game. I'm not going to spend this game fighting... One guy.
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JRE MMA Show #164 with Israel Adesanya
I don't know how long left, but I just know I'm definitely on the other side of my career. So I want to get these fights out the way. And now I'm not champ anymore in the UFC. So I'm in this situation where... What do I do? I know I want to fight though, because I took 11 months off and I let my body heal and all that, and I felt great. So now I want to get back to being active.